SHOCKING Reason Catherine de Medici Couldn't Have Children | The Serpent Queen Season 1 Episode 3
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- Are you wondering why it took so long for the Serpent Queen to get pregnant and bear an heir for Henry the second of France? Doesn't it seem incredulous that she was barren for 10 long years and then, all of a sudden, popped out 10 children in a 10 year span?
It did to me, so I went digging for the answer. What I found was pretty shocking given that I had never heard of such a thing, yet it st seemingly pretty common.
00:00 - Intro
01:06 - Diane de Poitiers, Henry II's mistress
03:01- Henry II's illegitimate daughter
04:20 - Catherine de Medici begs King Francis I to stay at court (The Serpent Queen, Episode 2)
05:05 - Catherine de Medici will do anything to get pregnant.
07:00 - What was wrong with Henry II's manhood?
08:18 - Catherine de Medici's children.
She waited 10 years before having her first child. It was years of fighting off the vultures who wanted her position once Henry II came to the throne. There were the Guise's who try to get power any way they could, Diane de Poitiers, Henry's mistress seeking to stay on top (pun intended) and the French court in general who wanted Henry to dump his ugly, barren Queen and move on.
But Catherine held favor with Henry's father and managed to maintain her position (another pun) in light of all the opposition.
This video covers her trials and tribulations during the 10 years it took her to find out the real problem and how to solve it thanks to ....well, watch the video to find out!
Thanks for watching!
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Is this just a re-upload of your video from 10 days ago??? "SHOCKING reason Catherin de Medici couldn't have children (for so long)"
But how did Phillipa get pregnant ?
Over 20 years ago I saw a French historian on TV in Paris tell the story with a little more accuracy...apparently there was a normal opening of Henry's urethra and a second on closer to the torso where fluids escaped from. Diane had already bore Henry children and it was her that informed Catherine how to use her finger to block the deformity hole so fluids would exit his body in the normal place and insemination thus occurred.
No, but I'm going to now🤗. Thanks
Too often the wife is blamed for not getting pregnant rather than looking at whether the husband has something wrong
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It was Henry VIII’s sperm which was damaged not that his wives could not conceive.
Today is still happening
Because the men tend to be kings. Nobody dares to question the kings.
Kings were supposed to be perfect. No wonder that doctors would be hesitant to suggest the king was lacking in any way that pertained to his virility. In this case, they had a commonsense court and relatives and were able to get things working.
Here's the real & simple reason Cathetine didn't conceive: her husband refused to sleep with her. Henry didn't love her and was quite repulsed by her. He got away with it for a long time, since for the first nearly 7 years of their marriage he was just the spare. He only relented out of gratitude when Cathetine - as regent - secured the finances to turn around his calamitous campaign in the Italian Wars. Her loyalty earned her the King's gratitude and trust, and he repaid her by impregnating her as often as she wanted it. He never gave up his mistress & other lovers, but he would give Catherine full honours as Queen from then on. She might have resorted to all kinds of desperate measures & spells to try and turn around her rejected state, but as for not getting pregnant, the reason was much simpler than some of the conspiracies - even echoed by Wikipedia - would have us believe.
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I think Catherine was a maligned person. I really don’t believe she was the manipulative, evil woman she has been portrayed to be. Strong women are always put down.
I agree! Thanks for joining the conversation!
When men are judged for how far they will go, shouldn't women be held to that same standard? If not, that's a terrifying thought...
She was the most sadistic of all queen's. See Sean Hross for research on the children she murdered .
Strong women make history.
@@cory2453 Of course women should be held accountable. The opposite isn’t what anyone here is suggesting. Just that plenty of women, who had done nothing wrong other than coming into more power than their society was willing to allow them to wield, were _unfairly_ made into scapegoats for all sorts of issues and into the object of often outlandish rumors that aimed to discredit them in order to take away their power and/or posthumously punish them for it and turn them into cautionary tales that were used to further the belief that women in power were a danger and abomination. A great exponent of that effort in Catherine’s time was Jon Knox - also a great love (not) of Elizabeth I, and I assume Mary, Queen of Scots - with his treaty on the “Monstrous Regiment of Women”, but he was hardly a lone operator, so to speak.
In short, what’s being argued is that it’s hardly madness to think Catherine de’ Medici might not _actually_ have been a psychopathic, Machiavellian necromancer who deliberately - through manipulation, poison, and dark magic - brought about most of the issues that plagued France during the mid-to-late 16th century.
Btw, this isn’t just women. The thing about women is that it applied to them systematically and no matter what or where, but plenty of foreigners, religious or political dissenters, or otherwise unconventional people were given the same unfair treatment aimed at getting rid of them or demonizing entire demographics. The insults directed towards Catherine herself often mentioned her Italian and humbler origins, Protestant sources have certainly contributed to the dark legend, and it’s most likely that much of it comes from the later Bourbon dynasty making up stuff to discredit the previous Valois rule as a way to affirm their own.
Since the issue was a "mechanical" condition of Henri, am I the only one to look back at the illegitimate "daughter," Diane de France? Maybe she wasn't the biological offspring of Henri after all. Her mama certainly mapped out a convenient path to the royal house for her
That’s what I was thinking. Awfully convenient.
Probably not. Women around the king were constantly being watched. They couldn't go off and have sex with somebody. Further, the c hild would have been scrutinized constantly to make sure she resembled the king.
I was thinking this. Or maybe he "took her" in the position required for conception.
What these women went through is so atrocious.
Appreciate that. I agree.
With all the wars going on during that time period sucked for men as well
@@missourimongoose8858 much worse for women! Many died in childbirth.
@@kcreagan9799 sorry but no, dying in war is 1000% worse than dying in child birth by every religious and social standard
@@missourimongoose8858 there is no way you could know that unless you've died from both.
There is also a birth defect in which it can be difficult for a female to not miscarry in the first month of pregnancy. If the uterus is not at the proper angle it can mean that a woman can conceive but cannot carry a child to term. I know someone who gad this problem and had surgery to correct it as well as the last 4 months of pregnancy was hospitalized after spotting. She had 3 children and then decided she did not need to have more. Seeing how Catherine was able to carry to term with no issues then the issue must have been his and not hers.
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My husband, son and I are really enjoying The Serpent Queen, we love and watch all these historical shows.
Glad you could join us. I love historical shows and movies as well!
Yup they always blame the wife. There was another king and queen of France had a problem having kids later on. Louie the 16th and his wife didn't have children right away
Also explains why the mistress didn’t get pregnant
Yes it does. Thanks for joining the conversation.
When I first heard this I Googled it. And of course I looked at the images. I was so surprised because I was a nurse for 20 years and never ever heard about this or seen it.
But they did have a child, Sebastian!
@@ditzygypsy in the TV show lol I haven't been able to find an illegitimate child with her anywhere. I even read that was made up for the show.
@@pamelameadows9717 Sorry I thought we were talking about the show that’s on now. I hadn’t even heard of the other one, lol. But I think you’re right that Diane maybe knew about his defect…and in real life too. That’d be a handy birth control method. Too bad they took so many many years to figure out the ovulation cycle. Could’ve helped to save some poor women’s heads and kept them from getting blamed for not producing heirs and kept some overly large poor families from becoming overwhelmed. It’s not a foolproof method for prevention, but it can be a help for conception. Cheers!
I'm watching the Serpent Queen right now on Starz. Although they didn't say exactly what it was they were shown to be given a physical examination and after that she became pregnant. That poor woman from that shows perspective went through hell. I can't imagine never knowing what your future might be tomorrow everyday for 10 years. Of course I Googled to find out what this condition look like and was surprised because in 20 years of Nursing not only had I never heard of this I've never seen it either.
I was surprised as well by the existence of such a condition esp. since 1 in 200 males in US are born with it. Of course, today I am sure it can be surgically corrected and I don't imagine any one particular person would want to talk about it. I do agree that it must have been extremely stressful for Catherine and I feel for her, having to believe for 10 years it was her fault. I won't go into how I really feel about the arranged marriages and what it must have been like to be a brood mare. The Handmaids Tale come to mind. Thanks for joining the conversation.
@@fabulouswomeninhistory I did look it up and look at pictures and yes they can correct it surgically now. But women have always had to take the blame for everything. And you don't have to explain about arranged marriages and Brood Mare. About 20 years ago something happened and all of a sudden I can feel the Holy Spirit and I was so full of this happiness and all of a sudden where I've never been able to read the Bible before I was able to read it in my own language. It was really beautiful at the time the New Testament I've read it six times. At that time it read like a novel to me and I could understand what I was reading. But whenever I would read the Old Testament I would have panic attacks and feel like throwing up. Who would have thought such a abuses of women we're not only happening but it was the law! To find out the conditions on being raped made me so angry. If your drug away out of the hearing of everyone and raped you were considered guilty and were stoned to death. Now if you were within hearing when you were raped then you would only be an outcast not allowed to be among the other tribe members. The horrific abuses and laws about women made me so angry and sometimes even felt hate towards God. We were literally treated like animals. How could God be okay with this?! There were even rules on how and why you could beat your wife. They could choose to just put away their wife and marry someone else and then she would be coming outcast. And what they thought of us when we were on our period would make you puke. Who knew we were such disgustingly filthy animals. Even to be put away in a separate tent while on our period. We were considered dirty and that's why they had to be cleansed each time before entering back into the camp not to mention after having a baby. God forbid if you touch anything. I'm telling you I read it six times like a novel and it made me sick. Of course it made me question God who would do that first you would create us and this is the life you created us for? It wasn't that long ago that we were no longer considered property. There are laws still on the book of what size stick you could use to beat your wife only because they haven't been taken down yet. Sorry about that I used to have panic attacks and tell my brother-in-law told me to quit reading it LOL stick to the New Testament. Men were actually supposed to be our protectors and our providers who knew we would need to be protected from them. So I feel you on that
@@pamelameadows9717 It wasn't God but humans and the way they used religion and superstition to ensure obiedience. You see it in modern times too. Christianity is about love but ever since it became connected to the institution of church, it is all about hatred and division, not love and unity.
@@vasilikikitsikoudi3963 The church itself is not about hatred and division, but some people in it pretend as if their own ideas were the truth. These people believe not in God but in themselves. Pope Francis hates clericalism and much has developed against this until now.
@@pamelameadows9717 What you describe as disgusting is the reason God sent Jesus to this earth. The people didn't act out of love (like the Pharisees who misused God's laws for their own power)
I’m a Neonatal RN and have to exam the genitalia at birth and document the issues for the pediatrician and obstetrician to follow up on. We would occasionally have to defer the parents choice whether to have a circumcision done until a pediatric Urologist was consulted. We would see around 3-4 boys a month who were born with varying degrees of hypospadias. We averaged about 18-22 deliveries a day so we saw it fairly often.
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Without giving away too many secrets or details I can say that this "condition" is deliberately done in a certain tribal ceremonies as a right of passage when a man considers he no longer wishes to procreate. In other words there's a cultural practice of using the deliberately caused hypospadias(?) as a means of contraception. It is not a thing that's done to just any member (excuse the pun) of the tribe either. It's seen as something a mature man earns the right to.
@@buzzzzzz69 Thank you, Bernadette. That’s so interesting. I’ve never heard of this so it’s all new to me. I love when people, such as you, have further information to share. I’m SO happy I found this channel! Thanks again, Bernadette (my favorite Saint). ❤️
My 3rd son had hypospadias.
I have heard of it. Where I am from we don't do circumcisions. No male in my family has been circumcised, except for my cousin, he was at 36 because of problems with his foreskin. My friend's husband had it, and it was corrected when he was young.
Révélations exactes.
Très bien racontées.
Catherine de Médicis est restée quelques semaines au château de Roussillon, où son fils Charles IX à signé par l'intermédiaire de son ministre Sébastien de l'Aubépine, l'Edit de Roussillon en 1564.
I AM LOVING “The Serpent Queen”!
The breaking of the fourth wall is everything for me.
I did enjoy “ The Spanish Queen” as well. But “ The Serpent Queen” is my favorite.
I have watched “The White Queen” and “The White Princess” as well!!
yep, we love our royalty 😃 Thanks for joining the conversation!
Lets be friends! The white queen anf serpent queen are my fav! I have watched them both like 15 times 😂
@@anab.3880 Happily
I find myself very entertained with your videos! I never thought of the king manhood problems haha, it must have been very humiliating to be on your knees asking for a chance :(
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How did he keep from peeing on his feet 😂
Simply by chance, i found this interesting video. First, I must thank you for creating a fact filled program. Who knew these maladies even existed then much less today. I wonder if the immense pressure put upon these “royal wives” was truly worth the trouble. Let’s face it. The value of these women was based solely on their ability to bear heirs. (The monetary part was established long before the nuptials). God forbid they have girls. As in England, the choices, should the marriage not work out, were few and usually determined by the male, of course. Thank you so much for a glimpse inside these fascinating, true to life marriages. I’m looking forward to your channel becoming my favorite.
Glad you found this channel and thank you for your encouraging comments. Also, thanks for joining the conversation!
Don’t forget, it wasn’t just the royals. It was also the wealthy. Unfortunately, in some of our cultures it continues today. I saw a show where a certain group of a religious belief, select the women for the husband, inspect them, and if they don’t produce children within a certain period of time, insist on a divorce. Personally, I find all this offensive because I know their scripture and all of this is completely contrary to their scripture. They are a sect and their practices, their traditions, are being used instead of their scripture. We never learn
My son was born with this birth defect. One little surgery later, all is well!
Thanks for the input. Was wondering how it all goes!
But not in those days. But didn't the midwife/doctors examine him after he was born and inform the king and queen that something was amiss?
Same here
Too bad Diane didn't leave diary behind.
True.
She might have secret lovers who went through a hidden corridor to her bedroom. Castles and palaces have lots of secret rooms, secret corridors, secret tunnels, etc.
That was always my theory. As the simplest and most logical explanation, it shouldn't be automatically discounted.
@@hotpatootieblessmysoul "called breeding out". Was done all the time . Less so now, with DNA testing.
So, are we to assume Henri II and the Italian woman hit “ the spot” without all the foul hocus pocus Nostradamus cooked up? Fortuitous! Well, if anything this history lesson assured me of his Mistress Diane’s true compassion and devotion to king and country as she tried to assist another woman, the queen, in her feminine mystique and in meeting the royal expectation at the time. Was a really rough situation for women of the day! Also, might explain why Queen Catherine did not completely lash out at Diane de Poitiers beyond demanding back the Crown jewelry gifted to Diane by the king and evicting his beloved mistress from the enormous chateau he also gifted to her (the king and his mature lover created a royal cypher that was inscribed onto the château’s pillars. They were also removed). Diane was a widow so she had other properties to live in, inherited from her late husband before the king. She never took another lover after the loss. Besides, the Court was a rather gloomy place without the young king’s glow. 🤴🏻🥺
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My grandma got married at 19 but did not get pregnant for 10 years and she never found out why and after that it was 7 more years until she had my dad and then another 5 years with her final child. She was not on birth control either she never found out what actually caused it.
What’s your dads blood type? If he is Rh- it may very well be that your Grandmother was also Rh-. Before Rhogam Rh- women would suffer myriad pregnancy losses until a child with Rh- blood was conceived.
@@codename495 He is B postive and I can't ask what she was because my grandma is deceased now.
Absolutely fabulous
Glad you like it!
I live for there period shows but I’m finding that if I like it to much it won’t get renewed
It was always assumed it was the woman’s fault, and definitely her fault if she didn’t have a son. Even to the point that she would’ve been gotten rid of.
Her husband was too busy being in Diane's bed. Thats why she couldn't concieve.
If he had that medical problem, how did he get his earlier mistress pregnant?
Could be the child wasn't really his.
@@Sienisota very possible
I wonder if the child was really Henri ! But she didn’t have to go through all that stuff just to get pregnant.
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Poor Catherine..
The way I understand medieval hostages (royal ones anyway) is that it's nothing like being a hostage today. When royalty gave a family member to another royal family as a hostage, it was a "guarantee" that the hostage giver would do whatever was promised. The royal hostage ended up living in the new household as part of that household (sometimes for years), but not as a prisoner per se. They just couldn't go home. The hostage would have been treated as a guest with all their needs attended to. Agreeing to have a hostage would have meant taking on full responsibility for them. They would have been fostered by the new family for the time they were there, not locked in a cell. Now, if the promise was broken, then the hostage could have rightfully been killed, but that didn't happen very often.
Thank you for this information.
I knew someone with this condition !
Fascinating! Have seen Sisi on Netflix. Do you know when the next segment will be run? Am happy not to have been a woman in those times!
If Henry was the problem hiw did he make his daughter,or did that lady cheat on henry.
It is not a “shocking” condition. 2 of my 4 sons were born with it.
I wish I could have children but my spina bifida with tether cord has taken the ability away from me so no matter what I do I can't get pregnant. It'd why it drives me nuts when mothers don't care about their kids.
Tho I have many fur babies, I guess I'd rather not be able to conceive then conceive & baby has exactly the same problem I do but worse or possibly die.
Wow somebody with a head on her shoulders. I know it’s hard but your taking responsibility and much needed good common sense. My parents had me with a Polio epidemic going on and my half brother had Polio????? I also agree with you that mother’s that shouldn’t have kids are popping them out like crazy. Makes no sense🤔
Fascinating how often historians delve into science to figure out what happened! I, and likely a lot of you, are descended from this union (I think I am, but our medieval genealogy is a mess, and I'm not special, if you are of western European heritage, you've likely got some famous royal lines in there), so thank goodness they figured it out! Altho it's generally best not to reflect too much on the historical events that led to one's existence, it's mostly awful...
Never heard of Henri ii having any trouble, other than the fact he was too in love with Diane. Load of crap!
Incredibile, not incredulous.
I enjoyed the early episodes with the young Catherine, the later ones not as much. Do we know if there will be a Season 2? I enjoyed Reign a lot more which dealt with an older Catherine and the actress playing her was really good. Lots of fun drama in that one.
Yes. I agree. Reign was very good.
Reign was more fictional than factual though
I like this Catherine
The thumbnail & title. 😭🤣😂
Thank you, I love HX, but.I never heard of Catherine's problem of conceiving, that probably. Was reason of her disposition of being witchy & evil😅
How did that other woman have his baby with a problem like that?
I know. I wonder the same thing.
Hardly shocking. Just a medical speculation.
No because Henry had a child before his children were born. Diane de France 😮
Serpent. This woman did what she needed to survive and help her children - against horrendous odds.
Be sure to stay to the end because its better metrics for the maker
I know somebody there was too afraid to speak up and say, well, it's probably him that's the issue. He only has one possible after all this mating. 💀 The fact that women today in some places are going through this because the mle refuses to believe that he is the issue when it comes to procreation, smh.
She meant business.
You know, the King had first right, first night, maybe he couldn't get over that.
Since he had a child from a mistress, maybe the wife's uterus shifted into place with age and was then able to hold a pregnancy. Many with a tilted uterus could have many early miscarriages within the first month of conception and have no idea.
Interesting
Why was she the SERPENT Queen ? A weird name
Wow really
I thought that Catherine also had something abnormal? My thoughts was possibly a tipped uterus? Or is this a condition that causes miscarriages? Guess I'll have to look it up.
Historians vary on this topic. Thanks for joining the conversation!
I have a tipped uterus and I had two children 18 months apart
I have a backwards tilted uterus
I have 7 kids
4 of which are twins (1 set identical and 1 set fraternal)
Not too bad a video. Henry II was the spare not the Heir. His brother died and that is how Henry ascended to the throne. Also, you used an image of Pope Leo X another Medici Pope for Clement VII.
I would love to see the DNA. Surrounding herself with a lot of other men might be the likely answer too.
Reality is even more 'spicy' - Joanna van Castille went to France with her mentor (Floris van Kleef) to marry Henri II when she was only 5 or six years old. The king had other plans and married Catharina de Medici for her money. There was another problem, Henri II was homosexual and, being a king, he was sure that he could make the rules. Catharina was not silly, and she sent Andrea Salay (the real second best) to Joanna van Castille (who lived in the neighbourhood of Orléans) to give her a son. Andrea and Joanna did what had to be done (and even did like the task), but the son was a stillborn child and Joanna died in childbirth. Andrea never went back to Versailles, but saved the exclusive knowledge that Joanna had and Leonardo da Vinci was one of the creative ideas that helped him doing so. Andrea Salay knew both Belisa Barca and Joanna (my two previous lives, Joanna was the last one before becoming Katharina Isabella Kiebooms and to be honest, I can understand the urgency to think out of the box, 500 years ago. People don't believe in facts, but in the story that give those facts a function, and being able to remember my past lives (especially the lives of Belisa Barca and Joanna (la loca) van Castille, I could digup a story that never has been told yet. Henry VIII, as we 'remember' him,was not the Henry that married the Kathar Catharina van Aragon - eldest daughter of Isabella van Aragon/Castille, but his younger broiher, Henry-James I. The Kathars rejected the idea of having possessions after your death - you all give it back to the world when you leave the body and life that you were attached to and that's why the Kathars had to be eliminated. Henry-James his reign was so destructive that Elisabeth (the daughter of Henry and Joanna, raised by her aunt, Catharina) was asked to come to London and save the monarchy. Henry-James was sent to the western 'colonies' and prepared for his ultimate ultimate revenche (probably in Nova Scotia, that would make sense). I mean, even in a period of 11 years, it's difficult to date when things have happened, so I use a contextual memory to keep it organized. It even has a secundary benefit - people LOVE historical gossip and writers will never have a writer block anymore after I have uncluttered the history. It didn't come in chronically, so I assume that it was 'knowledge' that was banned to a dark side of my brain, but I woke up just the same and KAYAK (Kaey & Karen) will study the memory loss when too much information became available (it was impossible to be 'me' anymore). I mean, there's still more to come, but it will take time to process the material ...
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Incredible, not incredulous.
The boredom is real 🙄
Wait......didn't you just upload this video 9 days ago????
So was the mistress impregnated with this position?
wait so the people i watched in reign must b famous. ik mary queen of scotts and elizabeth were. catherine too 😂?
Yep!
I am curious why they had blonde children when both had darker hair ?
Many people with darker hair as adults had white or light blonde hair as children, sometimes persisting well into young adulthood.
Hair color is not as simply as 7th grade science made it out to be.
hä? wieso is alles auf deutsch geschrieben, aber das video dann auf english?
Ich habe die Bildunterschriften in mehreren Sprachen verfügbar.
What if Catherine had a lover. All of a sudden she’s conceiving after 10 years. The King had no problem getting another woman pregnant but with his own wife it was’t possible. Perhaps Catherine thought there was no other way and so she had a secret affair and so, none of those children actually belonged to the King … 🤔
Maybe the child wasn't his. Need to take this problem to Maury.
@@51Saffron We are digging up graves of French royals on this episode to see if Henry is really Frances's father.
Was henry the 2nd son of the French king.
Henri II was the son and heir of Francis I (François I)
Henry was sterile!!!
Francis 1 made a deal with Spain to send his two sons to take his place as hostages so he could be free. Yikes.
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She was really too young when first married
He married her for her money. She had some classic deformities from inbreeding that the spanish court had- club foot, but her famiky money funded the French crown- so it was over looked
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Dear Laura, what does the Spanish court have to do with Catherine de Médicis ? Her father was Lorenzo II, Italian, and her mother Madeleine de la Tour d'Auvergne, French. Her grand-parents were Piero II and Alfonsina Orsini (both Italians) and Jeand d'Auvergne and Jeanne de Bourbon-Vendôme (both French) etc, etc…
@@heliedecastanet1882 After Catherine de Medici became the mother-in-law of Philip II of Spain in 1559, as a result of her daughter Elisabeth of Valois' marriage to the Spanish king, she set out to augment and multiply the family ties between the Valois and the Habsburgs by negotiating further marriages
@@lighthouselaura4324 But you wrote : "She had some classic deformities from inbreedings". Who are you speaking about ?
Caterina not Catherine
The monotnous droning music in the background is way too annoying. I couldn't finish watching.
Maybe they developed a Turkey basting style to conceive ?
If Henry had a penile defect , then how did he manage to impregnate the Italian woman Philippa ? Doesn't make any sense .
How could the king have a manhood problem while he already had a daughter from his mistress?
By mistress having sex with someone else, and claiming the child was the King's.
Think hard…. Maybe it was not his?
They could have known that the female child was not his but chose to perpetuate the lie in order to save Henry's reputation.
Elle eut en dernier des jumelles qui furent sorties de son ventre en les decoupant car elles étaient mortes in utero
Merci d'avoir rejoint la conversation!
You use incredulous wrongly.
Incredulous means disbelieving.
Incredible means unbelievable..
Could you PLEASE STOP. STOP. Calling her a serpent queen. She was queen and queen regent during very turbulent years of France.. her husband had an Electra complex that was already terrible enough
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The nickname 'Serpent Queen' stems from the dark legend of Catherine de' Medici, which casts her as being manipulative, scheming and untrustworthy. These attacks against her reputation have been shared for centuries, as she and her sons were accused of being the catalysts for the French Wars of Religion.
What on Earth is an Electra complex? And why so unhinged about her being called the serpent queen. Is she a personally friend? 😂
@@dw7939 he actually knows history. Watching a Miniseries and writing one does
Not make one and expert in history nor does it give you the truth. It gives a soap
Opera view of the past.
probably pcos
"Doesn't it seem INCREDIBLE . . ." People are 'incredulous', meaning unable to believe in something. A fact is incredible or unbelievable. Please straighten out your English, because when rendered poorly, it casts doubt on everything else you say.
Thank God she never gave up!!!!
I descend directly from King Henry III
I honestly had NO IDEA this happened!
Catherine you’re my hero! 🎉🫡
Makes you wonder how many things got in the way in every person in existences’ lineage lines through the ages…. Think about THAT! How blessed we are to be here! Just ONE instance of a person giving up or dying unexpectedly or on accident etc determines so many future potential Iives. Genealogy is important like some ppl say “eh who cares it’s the past” but isn’t it interesting to know? It makes you appreciate things more
Dear Key, I don't want to make you sad, but Henri III had no issue, neither from his wife, nor from his mistresses. Sorry.
I was in children home with Samantha mortorn we shared bedroom she done really well for herself we suffered sexual abuse and went through a lot u go bucket fanny Sammy we used laugh at that saying proud of u girl
I'm sorry you went through tgat. By all means you have the right to share your story, but you should think twice before sharing someone else story with the world.
Interesting
Interesting