Will It Melt?! ECells Five Star
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Wow that motor got up to 285 F. That pretty hot. Iwould guess the flashing is meant to be a warning.
probably.
I just found out from the owner of Ecells that Hentach (Five Star motor manufacturer) says not to exceed 230°F motor temp.
I saw the same max temperature of 285 degrees F while climbing steep single track in 93 degree F weather. The motor heats up internally quickly if you overload the motor torque, even on PAS 3. Conversely, if you run at full power on the road, even with smaller hills, no problem with overheating. I've ridden 8.5 miles at max power, and temps are fine. I've also seen no issues after maxing temp out on motor, but could eventually cause issues. I'll try to limit power when I get the max temp in the future.
@@nswenson520I've read that excess heat can demagnetize the powerful motor magnets and damage the insulation on the copper windings. On my Five Star if I run full throttle on flat roads it does start to overheat, but... I weigh 265lbs. I enjoy pedaling the bike though. Pedaling on PAS 5 is a lot of fun, the bike takes off like a rocket.
I just found out from the owner of Ecells that Hentach (Five Star motor manufacturer) says not to exceed 230°F motor temp.
Correct
Got my E-Cells 5 Star just a few days ago. Assembly was easier than expected thanks their video. Needed to make some adjustments to the brakes but then was ready to go. Mine even came with a free front basket that I didn't ask for! Your videos were the first to point me to this bike so of course I had to use Max100 to get my discount. It's definitely lived up to expectations!
Thank you! Enjoy!
Thank’s we’re glad you like it we aim to please.👍
I rode the Meelod today too, I lived. My Rc heli motors typically get to 160-180 degrees no problems
Nice! Those rc motors seem to be insanely durable
Celsius or farenhite?
I seen on the display of your bike that it has motor temperature but does it also have outside temperature is that updated for the newer version of the bike
typically it always has outside temp on but you have to change the c8 setting to get the motor temperature to show.
So if the thermal camera only showing in the 50's is the screen giving false info on temps? Interesting, maybe its not actually in danger whatsoever. 100c being max per hentech. I hit 200f every ride, and have seen 250f. Per the display no other readings taken.
The outside temp is very different than the inside because of how a geared hub motor is structured.
Did you notice any reduction in performance after having overheated the motor?
I actually haven't tested it after, but I'm sure it's fine.
@@maximumchargeEV It's probably ok but excess heat can demagnetize the motor magnets and damage the insulation on the copper windings.
I'm aware lol
lol it’s a very hot day 90 degrees? And I haven’t seen a sub 3 digit temp in 3 months.
New England
Great vid. What seat are you using? I have tried 3 on my new 5 star and none are doing the trick yet. I am used to a more aggressive ride position where I have weight on my arms on a fixed tail MTB but this sitting straight up and down puts all the weight on the rear. Like sitting on a bar stool. Do you feel that cloud 9 cruiser in your link is the most comfortable?
I have the cloud 9 seat suspension cruiser seat I just put on my five star I also ordered some cane creek 31.8 to 27.2 shims so I could put on a zoom suspension seat post maybe overkill but if your hauling ass and hit a pot hole I like knowing I have 3 suspensions between me and where all my weight is to dampen and smooth out the ride.
Ive tried a few seats and think the cloud 9 is the best for me personally. For this particular ride I had the stock ecells seat on the bike.
After trying three different seats on my Five Star, I've found the "Blue Wind" seat to be by far the most comfortable. I bought mine on Amazon.
Get that rear rock shox for $100 Alex. Wow did it improve the feel of the rear.
I bet! That would be nice!
@@maximumchargeEV Dave is selling them that cheap. It really changed the rear from just a air pivot to much more of a "shock" feel. Smoother. Idk hard to explain but worth the $100. $179 no so much 😂😂😂
@@maximumchargeEV mine came with the 4 pistons brakes so that's amazing. He's selling the dual star kit. Air forks, rear rack, rear battery, big headlight for $599. Definitely will be upgrading to that when available.
I'm glad I have the bike now, and like to wrench so win win for me.
Where is this trail?
it's in CT
Do you have the 17" or 19" frame?
17
@@maximumchargeEV I have the 19" frame with 26" tires, it's a big tall bike. I should have gone with the 17" and 24" tires for a lower center of gravity.
Great job showing how much stress you can put on the bike before it overheats & shuts down. I am also glad you stated that about the 24” tires as it confirms I made the right choice. I opted for the 5 Star Step thru with the 24” tires. I have ridden the 26” & 20” fat tires & found I was much more in control on the 20”, so I felt the 25” was a perfect compromise. Hopefully, we will see some of the 24” reviewed when they start shipping them next month. I don’t expect mine until late July early August.
Hey Alex, love your informative videos, I'm a fellow New Englander up near Keene, NH. I have a Wired cruiser a Aug 2023. What do you think of the updated Wired in comparison with the updated 5 Star ?
@glenndavis7762 thanks! That would be an interesting comparison. I'm curious how the motor does with the extra power being sent to it, especially since this one is already getting pretty hot with 40amps.
Is there some kind of a contract that keeps TH-camrs from comparing the five star and wired freedom and head? Did either wired or ecells stipulate in the contract that you guys couldn't compare both of the bikes
good question!
I don't own a Wired Freedom, only a heavily modded 1st gen wired Cruiser. It would be silly to compare them. Plus wired has a new model out. I'm curious to see how that bike handles motor heat considering it's getting more current than this one and has a smaller controller so less surface area for heat dissipation
@@maximumchargeEV i want to see this as well, almost want to buy a wired st so I can make the video myself. We crave it. lol
Awesome video fyi you shouldn’t let controller exceed 230 degrees 😊
thanks and yes I know haha
How do you get the motor temperature to display on the 5 star?
set the c7 setting to 1
@@maximumchargeEV Thank you!
@@gregorysmall9284 you bet!
You read the manual.
@@cs-xd9gy have you read our manual? Nary a thing about it.
Young people cant complain about the heat....
Never complained!!! I do complain about the cold though.
@maximumchargeEV ...young people can't complain about anything....it's a rule..😂😅
My 5 Star has a motor temp stuck at 59F. Going on four weeks and no responce from E-Cells Warranty department.
Sorry, I would maybe leave a comment on the official ecells five star facebook page and go from there.
Yes...Great value....
yes!
You need to test yourself on the "Planks of Death"
I will leave that to the expert over on the west coast.
@@maximumchargeEV ...🤣😂 He is a good rider!
Cook an egg on that controller
that would make a great video
Generally any electric motor starts to melt over 230 degrees
Bike is not made for that trail averaging 6-10mph not with the labor behind it stick to lighter trails
you might be right but we gotta try and send it!
Check for ticks...
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Ya sand and loose gravel suck!
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Ride it like you stole it.....
trying!
I sometimes ride it as if I stole it when Dave wasn't looking lol
@@MrDeath1988 ...ha ha ha....If I had to bet...that is how Dave wants you to ride it.... :)
Im really happy with the 5 star. it's designed for all shapes and sizes and all riding levels very well built
Glad you like it! It's a really great bike.
Objective to sit on the bike when you go in the woods.
Nice informative video, thanks for sharing. I've had my Five Star now for less than a week. I've already put over a 100 miles on it. I love it. How do you get your display to show motor temperature?
thanks! Enjoy ! Set the c7 setting to 1.
@@maximumchargeEV Thanks Dude!
@@heavyhitter8972 you bet!
@@maximumchargeEV So I set c7 to 1 and nothing happend?
@@heavyhitter8972 you have to throttle it for a few sec for it to turn on
Where in NE? I'm in MA. Great ride ty
thanks! CT over here!
I custom ordered mine been over 77 days still nothing I had to call and ask for a stock one pretty sad
Do a long run high-speed test to test the motor temp! It's hot by me but I've been gettin some really hot motor temps!!😮😮
it's actually easy for a bike to maintain speed, doesn't use that much power, and the airflow helps cool things down a lot. Slow hill climbs are the true temperature stress test.
I just found out from the owner of Ecells that Hentach (Five Star motor manufacturer) says not to exceed 230°F motor temp. It bet you're exceeding that temp.
@maximumchargeEV yes I live in a very hilly area and I'm hitting 230° pretty much everytime I ride..startin to get annoying haha
@heavyhitter8972 yeeep I have motor temp on my screen and I take a break as soon as I hit 230°f
Same, the longer the ride it continues to build temps as well(even in pas1). I've stopped at 220 and it screams up to 265 sitting. Heat soak? That being said i haven't noticed any degration in performance yet. Its a hot rod. Part of me wants to just ignore it and ride. Unsure of the longevity or cost of new motor.
I did a heat ride I live near Death Valley so it was about 30 degrees warmer. The bike didn't seem to care but my camera equipment kept overheating every 15 minutes and by the end of a 40 mile ride I was looking for a place to throw up. At 100 -110 the wind on your bike helps cool you but somewhere around 115 degrees the wind is no longer your friend. It's like when you open a hot oven except your whole body the whole time. Seriously thought I was going to burn the hair of my arms and legs.
Wow that is intense! Never experienced heat like that!
@@maximumchargeEV Where I am it's been in the triple digits for two weeks and will be till Sept. I moved here to get away from the snow, I don't think it will find me here.
Poor New England. 90° is torture. That’s mild April weather in the south. Of course normal May weather is 100°+😂. Like your videos.
Very mild weather over here! 90 is a heatwave haha
Awesome bike and company!
Sure is!
The fact it didn't shut down or lower power at 285F is concerning
why's that?
@@maximumchargeEV Because similar Hentach motors do cut off at that temp
@johns5504 Yeah I was wondering what kind of damage is being done to the motor at those temps. Hopefully none, but there's a chance it could affect the motors overall performance.
@@johns5504 I found out from the owner of Ecells that Hentach says not to exceed 230°F motor temp. It bet you're doing some damage to the motor.
@@heavyhitter8972 and at 141 Celsius thats over 285.
I know a lot depends on the wire coatings, but there's a limit as the windings themselves trap the heat from getting out to where it can be cooled.
The first part was lackluster...
I try it again and realize... I'm still bad
@@maximumchargeEV...🤣😂 Great job showcasing the bike!
Such an amazing bike. Love mine.
Right on!
Great job Alex!
if you say so! My mountain biking skills could have been better
@@maximumchargeEV Better than mine
WOW Thank you for the hill & some real trail times.
lol Im not to stable on ebikes & trails either, Im learning :)
on motorbikes Ive done that for years & familiar with those, But an Ebike is very different.
Thank you for showing it going up those.
ok I was sold on the 5 star, but know "my" limitations and going with the step star when its released -
really looking forward to seeing that [If I saw one Id likely buy it on the spot] lol
I have a couple lill 750 watt ebikes for the places that require that Buut THere are miles of logging roads & trails here that are unused when hunting season ends. I want a step thru to go up those.
any where a log truck can go I wanna ride an ebike there too.
my motor bikes & ATV have been there, but I wanna ebike it.
I will need to learn it, but to see the star go there lets me know I can too [with practice.]
thank you for running those "real" trails in the woods :)
you bet! trying just like you! Looking forward to seeing how the step star turns out! Ecells doesn't disappoint.