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I have a suggestion for your future videos. Since you like to cover the basics for new viewers, which can be repetitive for regulars, you could include a timestamp indicating when the Starship updates begin. You could say something like, 'I'll quickly go over the basic information, but for regular viewers, the updates start at [timestamp].'
I agree. The title of the video points to a specific point of information. Often I want to know just that, but first have to sit through the rest or find it, or try and find it.
Still shaking my head over how much fuss so many people are making about the lose of that booster, as if it's a sign that the company is failing. It got it's payload to orbit. For the 23rd time. Every other launch provider in the world can only use their boosters once. SpaceX not only more than got their money's worth outta that booster, this failure gives them something to study to even further improve a rocket that's already proven to be super robust, reliable, and reusable.
Not to mention that the boosters are ALWAYS uncrewed on return. I bet they are testing them to destruction: "Hey, we got 22 landings on this one! What's the pool bet for 23?"
Yep! I even got questions from friends and family asking me if SpaceX was in trouble now because they read an article saying "Insert total doom headline here". It's a shame. Most of it comes from traditional media.
@@Whataboutit This wouldn't have happened if the FAA hadn't gone out of bounds and grounded their entire fleet for an unimportant mishap (which took back briefly afterwards, just after the hitpieces equating Spacex to Boeing)
The fact that the same booster has been used 23 times in 4 years is insane knowing that only 11 years ago it was not clear if reusability of a rocket was a thing !
Yeah, you can't really count the Space Shuttle as reusable. It took far too much refurbishment - and money - from flight to flight. Now, don't get me wrong,- it was an extraordinary machine; on top of that, perhaps that first generation of thermal tiles helped pave the way for Starship's thermal protection system. Different materials entirely, of course, but similar conceptually. It will always be one of my favorites!
SpaceX are not crying about that booster. It provided glorious service and its demise will improve future flights. Amazing space launch vehicles, amazing landing abilities. Sad to see you go, and thank you for the thrills and your service.
Can you keep "Starship ready for flight 5!" out of your video titles until it actually is ready? You've been doing it for a month now and it's actually getting frustrating being misled over and over
@Whataboutit "it is ready" "they're waiting" Can they launch without the FAA approval? No. So they are not ready. It is very annoying when you try to trick us to watch the video when your subscribers (me) would watch the video anyway and the misinformation makes me not want to
The issue of the potable fresh water from the deluge system into a salt water marsh is ridiculous when you consider the area gets about 28 inches of rain water per year. The water from the deluge system is minuscule in comparison.
Yes, I saw elsewhere that the issue is fresh water into a saltwater marsh. I was like, what about rain. I guess if the sue SpaceX on this, they need to sue God too?
The issue isn't the absolute quantity of water, but rather the rate at which that water is dumped into the ecosystem. Marine life that are not adapted to large quantities of fresh water ingress will be harmed. There are ways to mitigate the rate of dilution, which may need to happen. A paper company I used to work at had to do this because of dumping 20 - 30 million gallons of fresh water into a salt water marsh.
Checks are important, though. There are some chemicals at Starbase (hydraulic fluid for example) that are very close to the deluge water cycle. I know! We all want this to move as fast as possible! In the end it should be done the proper way, though. They're doing that now. Let's just hope that this isn't a delay tactic and that everything is there for a reason.
@@charlieodom9107 I live on the gulf coast. Nature balances things out. I've been through many storms dumping in excess of 20 inches off rain in several hours, and several times each year storms that dump over 5 inches an hour. It runs off into bayous and into the Gulf of Mexico. It all works out the way nature intends. The Army Corps of Engineers regularly diverts millions of gallons of water a day to protect businesses downriver on the Mississippi, and it has very little effect except for temporary algae blooms.
@darkwood777 not the same. Water being deleted over vast areas is completely different than dumping millions of gallons nearly instantly into a highly focused area. Here is a test you can do yourself and see how it works out for you: get a salt water aquarium, fill it half way, then dump the other half fresh water into it and see what happens. That is what happens in real life, without proper dilution and other mitigating factors.
O² fire: The best example of this is a cutting tourch used for cutting steel. After preheating the steel, a stream of oxygen is directed where the cut needs to be,the steel burns, melts and is blown out of the cut! the heat prepares the steel ahead of the O² "stream, and the cut procedes. Elon once described super heavy as the world's largest cutting tourch, when talking about to the damage to the launch pad after FT1. This tendency of pure O² to burn anything is the major difficulty in O² ritch full flow turbine pumps like in a raptor engine as the metal parts want to burn up. This is where having the world's best material science team is critical.
@@Whataboutit Felix you're doing a great job, keep it up. Please don't get caught up in changing things based on a few comments. Remember, all the great TH-cam channels found the working formula and stuck with it 🙂.
If they recessed the hinges down into the hull, they wouldn’t need to worry about tiling around all of those compound curves. It’d be a much cleaner/ more effective design.
Germany does the same: when the german federal agency for technical relief (THW, nearly all volunteers in civic protection) are practicing refining river water to drinking water they are not allowed to discharge this water back in to the river because in the moment it comes out of the pipe it turns into wastewater :D :D
At around 1:30 when we seen a top view of the booster landing, that would actually be pretty cool if they could get a drone or something to get that on video.
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Why have we never heard of NASA or ULA or anyone launching out of KSC being hassled over their water deluge systems because of supposed environmental concerns?
Cause they are in the big club…and SpaceX ain’t in it…😂. NASA and this government are so salty about Musk, they stick it to him anytime they have a chance.
I think B1062 had a malfunction of one of its merlin engines upon landing which caused it to land a bit too hard and probably off center, damaging one of it's legs in the process which then allowed it to fall over. On the bright side, it was still able to both accomplish its mission a then land on the drone ship.
The challenge is getting the attachment points to line up with the chop-stick arms? The precision required is measured in < metre? Why not several hard points on the main booster?
Keep in mind that Felix is simplifying how the Falcon 9 performs the suicide burn (or "hoverslam" as SpaceX likes to style it). Yes, they do want to run the center engine used for landing at high throttle to decelerate quickly; if they didn't, the maneuver would require more fuel. But they won't be running it at full 100% throttle, most of the time. They'd leave a little bit of wiggle room so that the engine _can_ be throttled up (or down) to correct for starting the burn a little late (or early). I'd guess somewhere in the 90 to 95% range. Another variable they can control is how long the engine remains at high throttle. As it approaches the droneship and its speed drops, the engine would be throttled back gradually to permit finer control of the time and altitude at which the F9's velocity reaches zero. But this curve is not fixed, it can be made steeper or shallower on the fly by the F9's flight computer, as needed. If it's coming in too fast and 100% throttle isn't enough, it can simply delay the throttle-down until it's back on track. These kinds of adjustments, along with the generally high reliability of the hardware, explain why SpaceX has managed such a long streak of landing successes, after the initial period where they were still trying to dial in the parameters and control algorithms! They went from no successful landings, to a moderate fraction, to almost every one, to 267 consecutive successful landings. The one that finally failed is _almost certainly not_ due to a software problem. My best armchair guess based on several people's analysis videos is that either that the one landing leg gave out without absorbing hardly any of the impact, and/or the engine unexpectedly began to underperform in the final moments and couldn't be throttled up enough, or quickly enough, to prevent a harder than normal landing (which may also have contributed to the landing leg failure). I'll be very interested in the results of their investigation
Scott Manley showed a comparison of past landings and speeds which was very helpful. The difference was about 10 km/h at touch down - not that much, but on a car that can be the difference between a minor dent and a major repair. I think the legs were designed to land in this range, but my suspicion was there was unknown metal fatigue in the strut. Probably after 20 launches, SpaceX should plan to use the booster on non return launches like for satellites bound for geo orbit.
20:00 the launch pad wasn't "severely damaged" okay. only light scorch marks and a few burned wires. It'll be back.. as a matter of facts it is ready and operational. So its was LIGHTLY DAMAGED!!! :)
They don't have permission to launch by the bureaucrats. They're not going to just sit around and wait for the paper-pushers and their political supervisors to give them their imperial decree to fly, they are using the time to push secondary priorities forward.
Whats constitutes use in an industrial process? Watering grass outside of factory? Spacex should plant a foot square section of grass next to the launch tower and use the deluge to water it.
My guess would be metal fatigue on that cylinder. The telescoping cylinder piston only reserves minimal overlapping surface area when fully extended, and the multiple extreme heating /cooling cycles cause embrittlement. This weakens the overlapping area to the point of failure. An easy fix is to increase the overlap or upgrade the cylinder materials.
@@WorkerDroid I'd be very surprised if all those were at Starbase, though! So, if there will be, let's say, 4 at Starbase at one point, A, B, C, D makes more sense. If they have 26 towers, whee's number 17? But if it's not 17 but instead Tokyo C, you can sort it in.
@@Whataboutitat Boca Chica..yes, it works well enough , they have limited ground to build towers…for now. But worldwide, numbers work just as well, and also reflects progress…”tower 61” sounds pretty great. I expect launch and landing facility will be needed around the world, in time. Better and more efficient to land down range somewhere and relaunch from there. I guess the site will be named for the location…Starbase Puerto Rico…Starbase Madrid….something like that. Let’s see…
Hi Felix, where are the places to see the starship launch in the zone? I will be close to Cape Canaveral and would like to have de opportinity to see this crazy launch
The live stream suggests the first scenario, that the booster landed too hot. As it touched down, you can see the engine bells dip very close (possibly even contacting) the deck before bouncing back up. The extra stress could easily cause both a failure of one of the landing legs as well as the fire if one of the bells was cracked by slapping into the deck. Kinda like SN10's hard landing.
The FAA in fact was refusing to ground the MAX fleet (which killed hundreds of innocent people) even after most other agencies around the world had grounded them, in order to protect Boeing.
This is not to knock the speed of SpaceX, but I think that most folks that work in industries that have regulation end oversight find that government regulators always move slower than what a private company can perform and turn around punchlist items on. It’s not a question of if they are slower, it’s typically a question of, “How much slower are they?”
The $4000 fine was for not following process and no it's not just silly paperwork. Someone has to track the environmental impact and they can't if SpaceX doesn't follow the approval/reporting process
Close-up shots of Ships 30 & 31 having their heat shields replaced show how rusty the external trusses on Highbay are getting and SpaceX doesn't seem to be bothering to fix & repaint as it does elsewhere at Boca. That makes me think that fairly soon after Megabay 2 becomes operational Highbay might indeed be scheduled for demolition to make space for a 3rd Megabay. I wonder if they might also be waiting for the office block to be finished so that Stargate occupants can be relocated there before Highbay demolition starts because given Highbays proximity to Starfactory I can imagine that they might need to demolish Highbay "sideways" towards Stargate rather than "forwards" towards Starfactory which would mean demolishing Stargate first. And yes, I know the university owns Stargate but that's nothing that a property transaction couldn't fix, maybe even a property swap where that strange shorter section of the office block might be the new home for Stargate.
It would be useful to know the history of those legs - have they kept with this booster the whole time ? Maybe Booster legs are only safe for 20 flights ?
animation of the rockets on rapid fire and the one explosion felt personally aimed to me because i want boom booms. *i know it was not XD* BOOM BOOM MEANS PROGRESS. NOTHING WORKS FIRST TIME! BOOM BOOM LEADS TO NO MORE BOOM BOOM- progress
Will Space X still be using a much perfected B1 and B2 be just used around earth and Luna with B3 & beyond missions needing massive amounts of equipment to go to mars & beyond?
I think that the engines had been fired too much and decided that they didn't want to stop when they were supposed to. This caused either part of the rocket to go up and therefore a tip over or the heat prevented a landing leg from deploying.
Not really. There will be a delay between flight no matter what so they'll have time to work on the 2nd tower before another flight if things go either way.
Finally someone covered the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality! THAT is a much bigger deal than people realize and the FAA would not grant a license until that matter is resolved. Sounds like with the fine issued they can hopefully get the correct permit for the deluge and get into compliance again.
All I can visualize in the animations of the booster coming back to the pad for a catch-landing is it missing the tower and slams into the tank farm causing a gargantuan explosion.
I hope starship 5 launches on my 35th birthday ! I couldn't be happier if that happened ! My mommy and Daddy promised me A new Lego kit and shelves for my action figures !
SpaceX is not the only game in town, but they are showing what ingenuity and drive - and a few bucks - can do. They are setting very high goals and either meeting them, or learning from the process. Elon may want to go to Mars - in his lifetime - but he is not going to do it at a loss of resources. No - we make money along the way. And oh - btw - act as ambulance for the ISS, as needed. Whether you like Space X or not, whether you think they are doing it all right or all wrong - they are at least doing it. Let 'em go!
Everything ultimately fails. It looks like a component in one of the legs just had enough. But that's one of the coolest things about SpaceX, they push and find the weakness and fix it. Thanks Felix for all the updates.
Like an Airport, will the Chopstick Tower Arms catch other Rockets That would Install Space X- Rocket Vertical Landing FSF (Full Self Flying -like Tesla FSD) and Grid Fins Landing Arms????
I think one of the best things about the starship program is commercial transit, this will give everyday people access to a proper view from space, and shut flat earthers up forever ❤
The leg on that rocket went to space and back HOW MANY TIMES?!?! And THAT'S the failure point for the booster??? Let's be real... that booster was a fucking BEAST! Space-X quality is OFF THE CHART!
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What do you think? What caused B1062 to sign off?
I think B1062’s landing leg when deployed over extended like someone doing leg press and the stress made it snap inwards
LOL! a booster with a design life of 10 reuses failed after the 23rd landing. That is a non-issue.
If possible, use the new tower.
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Best part is no part.
Also this wallet: huge amount of parts + electronics.
I have a suggestion for your future videos. Since you like to cover the basics for new viewers, which can be repetitive for regulars, you could include a timestamp indicating when the Starship updates begin. You could say something like, 'I'll quickly go over the basic information, but for regular viewers, the updates start at [timestamp].'
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@@davincimachen5517 if sucking a cucumber was a emoji it would be your top used one.
Please
I agree. The title of the video points to a specific point of information. Often I want to know just that, but first have to sit through the rest or find it, or try and find it.
Still shaking my head over how much fuss so many people are making about the lose of that booster, as if it's a sign that the company is failing. It got it's payload to orbit. For the 23rd time. Every other launch provider in the world can only use their boosters once. SpaceX not only more than got their money's worth outta that booster, this failure gives them something to study to even further improve a rocket that's already proven to be super robust, reliable, and reusable.
Exactly what I thought , better than the rest and they will improve it further ,
Not to mention that the boosters are ALWAYS uncrewed on return. I bet they are testing them to destruction: "Hey, we got 22 landings on this one! What's the pool bet for 23?"
Yep! I even got questions from friends and family asking me if SpaceX was in trouble now because they read an article saying "Insert total doom headline here". It's a shame. Most of it comes from traditional media.
@@Whataboutit Legacy media, and their breathless concern trolling. A pox upon their collective houses.
@@Whataboutit This wouldn't have happened if the FAA hadn't gone out of bounds and grounded their entire fleet for an unimportant mishap (which took back briefly afterwards, just after the hitpieces equating Spacex to Boeing)
The fact that the same booster has been used 23 times in 4 years is insane knowing that only 11 years ago it was not clear if reusability of a rocket was a thing !
Except for the fact it was done 50 years ago.
@@palindromic7873 except it wasn’t in any way
Yeah, you can't really count the Space Shuttle as reusable. It took far too much refurbishment - and money - from flight to flight. Now, don't get me wrong,- it was an extraordinary machine; on top of that, perhaps that first generation of thermal tiles helped pave the way for Starship's thermal protection system. Different materials entirely, of course, but similar conceptually. It will always be one of my favorites!
@@craigprosser9554 it was first done in 1981
@@palindromic7873bro it's funny how your right and he complaining 😅
SpaceX are not crying about that booster. It provided glorious service and its demise will improve future flights. Amazing space launch vehicles, amazing landing abilities. Sad to see you go, and thank you for the thrills and your service.
Can you imagine the ROI they got out of just that 1 booster?
@@EM-vh9ewroi must be enough to produce atleast minimum of 5 new indigenous boosters.
Can you keep "Starship ready for flight 5!" out of your video titles until it actually is ready? You've been doing it for a month now and it's actually getting frustrating being misled over and over
He's a youtuber. Its his li livelihood. Clicks matter. I just click to read the comments and then see if it's worth watching.
I'm not misleading you. It is ready. They're waiting for the FAA.
@Whataboutit you know what he means…
@@Whataboutit so, they've been ready for a month? They didn't do any changes?
Cmon man, you know what he's talking about
@Whataboutit "it is ready" "they're waiting" Can they launch without the FAA approval? No. So they are not ready. It is very annoying when you try to trick us to watch the video when your subscribers (me) would watch the video anyway and the misinformation makes me not want to
The issue of the potable fresh water from the deluge system into a salt water marsh is ridiculous when you consider the area gets about 28 inches of rain water per year. The water from the deluge system is minuscule in comparison.
Yes, I saw elsewhere that the issue is fresh water into a saltwater marsh. I was like, what about rain. I guess if the sue SpaceX on this, they need to sue God too?
The issue isn't the absolute quantity of water, but rather the rate at which that water is dumped into the ecosystem. Marine life that are not adapted to large quantities of fresh water ingress will be harmed.
There are ways to mitigate the rate of dilution, which may need to happen. A paper company I used to work at had to do this because of dumping 20 - 30 million gallons of fresh water into a salt water marsh.
Checks are important, though. There are some chemicals at Starbase (hydraulic fluid for example) that are very close to the deluge water cycle. I know! We all want this to move as fast as possible! In the end it should be done the proper way, though. They're doing that now. Let's just hope that this isn't a delay tactic and that everything is there for a reason.
@@charlieodom9107 I live on the gulf coast. Nature balances things out. I've been through many storms dumping in excess of 20 inches off rain in several hours, and several times each year storms that dump over 5 inches an hour. It runs off into bayous and into the Gulf of Mexico. It all works out the way nature intends. The Army Corps of Engineers regularly diverts millions of gallons of water a day to protect businesses downriver on the Mississippi, and it has very little effect except for temporary algae blooms.
@darkwood777 not the same. Water being deleted over vast areas is completely different than dumping millions of gallons nearly instantly into a highly focused area.
Here is a test you can do yourself and see how it works out for you: get a salt water aquarium, fill it half way, then dump the other half fresh water into it and see what happens.
That is what happens in real life, without proper dilution and other mitigating factors.
O² fire: The best example of this is a cutting tourch used for cutting steel. After preheating the steel, a stream of oxygen is directed where the cut needs to be,the steel burns, melts and is blown out of the cut! the heat prepares the steel ahead of the O² "stream, and the cut procedes. Elon once described super heavy as the world's largest cutting tourch, when talking about to the damage to the launch pad after FT1.
This tendency of pure O² to burn anything is the major difficulty in O² ritch full flow turbine pumps like in a raptor engine as the metal parts want to burn up. This is where having the world's best material science team is critical.
When oxy-fuel cutting, the steel oxidizes and gets blown away by the stream of oxygen (rapid rusting). It does not melt...
I hope starship goes through the re-enrty without damage and land smooth
Be amazing to watch if it does and amazing to watch if it doesn't
I do too!
@@Whataboutit Felix you're doing a great job, keep it up. Please don't get caught up in changing things based on a few comments. Remember, all the great TH-cam channels found the working formula and stuck with it 🙂.
@@TheTurbineEngineer We just Fast Forward parts we have already watched.
If they recessed the hinges down into the hull, they wouldn’t need to worry about tiling around all of those compound curves. It’d be a much cleaner/ more effective design.
I wonder when the last time the water was tested at Cape Canaveral from one of NASA's launches?
Yep. Excellent question! Solid Rocket motors especially are way more harmful.
Exactly 💯 😂
Was thinking the same thing.. 🤔
Germany does the same: when the german federal agency for technical relief (THW, nearly all volunteers in civic protection) are practicing refining river water to drinking water they are not allowed to discharge this water back in to the river because in the moment it comes out of the pipe it turns into wastewater :D :D
Fantastic to see so much innovation in the space sector with not only SpaceX but also Rocket Labs and new players. The future is bright!
I believe the can crusher will crush the can, so to speak. The point is to find the failure pressure which means increasing pressure until it fails.
I really enjoy your videos, but I have to mention one thing… The titles in the thumbnails are discouraging me from clicking it ^^
Absolutely. And above all, it's so unnecessary. I think the clicks are pretty similar with useful thumbnails.
Every day title: Starship ready for test flight 😂😂😂😂
Todays episode of "WE'RE CLOSE", "SpaceX's speed is unmatched", and "there are over 2 million returning viewers"
Try Matt Lowne's "Space This Week". He covers more than just SpaceX
Spacex is in a league of their own
With all the workers so busy in SpaceX ..they remind me of Fraggle Rock ... 😅 😊
At around 1:30 when we seen a top view of the booster landing, that would actually be pretty cool if they could get a drone or something to get that on video.
For sure, it is going to be one heck of a show that day. We will all be transfixed watching it.
Thank you so much for your continuous uploads!
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I appreciate it very much! Thank you, Morgan! We have so much more to explore!
Why have we never heard of NASA or ULA or anyone launching out of KSC being hassled over their water deluge systems because of supposed environmental concerns?
Cause they are in the big club…and SpaceX ain’t in it…😂. NASA and this government are so salty about Musk, they stick it to him anytime they have a chance.
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I think B1062 had a malfunction of one of its merlin engines upon landing which caused it to land a bit too hard and probably off center, damaging one of it's legs in the process which then allowed it to fall over. On the bright side, it was still able to both accomplish its mission a then land on the drone ship.
Great report. Go SpaceX, Go Rocket Lab, Go RFA!
Oh, wow, super early! Love y'all's news updates. Quickly approaching episode 400! 😁
400!!!! O:
The challenge is getting the attachment points to line up with the chop-stick arms? The precision required is measured in < metre? Why not several hard points on the main booster?
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Keep in mind that Felix is simplifying how the Falcon 9 performs the suicide burn (or "hoverslam" as SpaceX likes to style it).
Yes, they do want to run the center engine used for landing at high throttle to decelerate quickly; if they didn't, the maneuver would require more fuel. But they won't be running it at full 100% throttle, most of the time. They'd leave a little bit of wiggle room so that the engine _can_ be throttled up (or down) to correct for starting the burn a little late (or early). I'd guess somewhere in the 90 to 95% range.
Another variable they can control is how long the engine remains at high throttle. As it approaches the droneship and its speed drops, the engine would be throttled back gradually to permit finer control of the time and altitude at which the F9's velocity reaches zero. But this curve is not fixed, it can be made steeper or shallower on the fly by the F9's flight computer, as needed. If it's coming in too fast and 100% throttle isn't enough, it can simply delay the throttle-down until it's back on track.
These kinds of adjustments, along with the generally high reliability of the hardware, explain why SpaceX has managed such a long streak of landing successes, after the initial period where they were still trying to dial in the parameters and control algorithms! They went from no successful landings, to a moderate fraction, to almost every one, to 267 consecutive successful landings. The one that finally failed is _almost certainly not_ due to a software problem.
My best armchair guess based on several people's analysis videos is that either that the one landing leg gave out without absorbing hardly any of the impact, and/or the engine unexpectedly began to underperform in the final moments and couldn't be throttled up enough, or quickly enough, to prevent a harder than normal landing (which may also have contributed to the landing leg failure).
I'll be very interested in the results of their investigation
Scott Manley showed a comparison of past landings and speeds which was very helpful. The difference was about 10 km/h at touch down - not that much, but on a car that can be the difference between a minor dent and a major repair. I think the legs were designed to land in this range, but my suspicion was there was unknown metal fatigue in the strut. Probably after 20 launches, SpaceX should plan to use the booster on non return launches like for satellites bound for geo orbit.
20:00 the launch pad wasn't "severely damaged" okay. only light scorch marks and a few burned wires. It'll be back.. as a matter of facts it is ready and operational. So its was LIGHTLY DAMAGED!!! :)
Start of video: "SpaceX is ready to launch flight 5!"
20 seconds later: "Teams have continued working on launch tower A"
Seriously. Stop.
They don't have permission to launch by the bureaucrats. They're not going to just sit around and wait for the paper-pushers and their political supervisors to give them their imperial decree to fly, they are using the time to push secondary priorities forward.
Well technically they are ready to launch. They are not, however, ready to catch. And that's what all the work is for
That's literally what SpaceX is saying 🤷♂️ Felix isn't getting it wrong, SpaceX apparently is 😅
Neutron may be the 2nd orbital rocket to land yet, we'll have to see if New Glenn makes it or not.
Yep!
We'll see in 2025, 2026 at worst I think. The new leader appears MUCH better.
Whats constitutes use in an industrial process? Watering grass outside of factory? Spacex should plant a foot square section of grass next to the launch tower and use the deluge to water it.
Its BS. There is no purpose in arguing with people that have an agenda. The FAA is thoroughly bent.
Incredible speed and Incredible progress SpaceX, can't wait to see a human walking on Mars.
21:40 Look at that widdle engine. It's so cute!
I wish the 5th starship launch mission would be in September but it’s probably going to happen early October.
Lots of Mechies having fun!😁 Lots of Civil Engineers and Ground Workers having Fun!😁 Don't forget to show us Sparks having fun too!🙃
Great coverage, thanks!
My guess would be metal fatigue on that cylinder. The telescoping cylinder piston only reserves minimal overlapping surface area when fully extended, and the multiple extreme heating /cooling cycles cause embrittlement. This weakens the overlapping area to the point of failure. An easy fix is to increase the overlap or upgrade the cylinder materials.
Another quality episode.
Of course they will solve this issue. Imagine getting 7 more missions with the same rocket. The profit margins are great after 20 shots.
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Let's all agree that there is a tower 1 and a tower 2. No A or B
LC39A & B
Agreed. SpaceX is likely to have many launch/catch towers…maybe more than 26 in time. So numbers make more sense than letters
@@WorkerDroid I'd be very surprised if all those were at Starbase, though! So, if there will be, let's say, 4 at Starbase at one point, A, B, C, D makes more sense. If they have 26 towers, whee's number 17? But if it's not 17 but instead Tokyo C, you can sort it in.
@@Whataboutitat Boca Chica..yes, it works well enough , they have limited ground to build towers…for now. But worldwide, numbers work just as well, and also reflects progress…”tower 61” sounds pretty great. I expect launch and landing facility will be needed around the world, in time. Better and more efficient to land down range somewhere and relaunch from there. I guess the site will be named for the location…Starbase Puerto Rico…Starbase Madrid….something like that. Let’s see…
@WorkerDroid if Musk has a crash or a Hart attack the whole thing is over.
I'm here for the outtakes at the end. The rest is just a bonus ;)
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Hi Felix, where are the places to see the starship launch in the zone? I will be close to Cape Canaveral and would like to have de opportinity to see this crazy launch
Love this channel
The live stream suggests the first scenario, that the booster landed too hot. As it touched down, you can see the engine bells dip very close (possibly even contacting) the deck before bouncing back up. The extra stress could easily cause both a failure of one of the landing legs as well as the fire if one of the bells was cracked by slapping into the deck. Kinda like SN10's hard landing.
I BETCHYA Space X is gonna pull of the full flight 5!
It's ridiculous to suspend all falcon 9's! When any Boeing plane has an issue all of them world wide aren't grounded!!!
The FAA in fact was refusing to ground the MAX fleet (which killed hundreds of innocent people) even after most other agencies around the world had grounded them, in order to protect Boeing.
@@nickrobertson9533 if spaceX made half the weapons hardware in USA, they would get away with it too
Sometimes I feel faa and nasa subconsciously think they are screwed by partnering or awarding contract with spacex. Real jealous stuff.
This is not to knock the speed of SpaceX, but I think that most folks that work in industries that have regulation end oversight find that government regulators always move slower than what a private company can perform and turn around punchlist items on. It’s not a question of if they are slower, it’s typically a question of, “How much slower are they?”
The $4000 fine was for not following process and no it's not just silly paperwork. Someone has to track the environmental impact and they can't if SpaceX doesn't follow the approval/reporting process
Keep up the good work
Close-up shots of Ships 30 & 31 having their heat shields replaced show how rusty the external trusses on Highbay are getting and SpaceX doesn't seem to be bothering to fix & repaint as it does elsewhere at Boca. That makes me think that fairly soon after Megabay 2 becomes operational Highbay might indeed be scheduled for demolition to make space for a 3rd Megabay. I wonder if they might also be waiting for the office block to be finished so that Stargate occupants can be relocated there before Highbay demolition starts because given Highbays proximity to Starfactory I can imagine that they might need to demolish Highbay "sideways" towards Stargate rather than "forwards" towards Starfactory which would mean demolishing Stargate first.
And yes, I know the university owns Stargate but that's nothing that a property transaction couldn't fix, maybe even a property swap where that strange shorter section of the office block might be the new home for Stargate.
Thanks, Felix!
Reading your video titles I feel like Starship is ready for launch for at least a month now 😅 so when will they start?
As soon as the FAA bureaucrats stop pushing papers around and allow them to continue with their test launch campaign.
@@admarsandbeyondafter the election. May be next year i guess
It would be useful to know the history of those legs - have they kept with this booster the whole time ?
Maybe Booster legs are only safe for 20 flights ?
Yep. Hot oxygen does indeed have a nasty habit of turning things into soup.
Starship should be nicknamed Dragon Slayer.
animation of the rockets on rapid fire and the one explosion felt personally aimed to me because i want boom booms. *i know it was not XD*
BOOM BOOM MEANS PROGRESS. NOTHING WORKS FIRST TIME! BOOM BOOM LEADS TO NO MORE BOOM BOOM- progress
Thanks Brother!❤
I love space X but it's good the FAA is moving with responsibility
For the falcon 9 issue
Landing leg hydraulic seal failure or mounting point failure do to fatigue. I believe it will be one of the 2.
Question! I don't have 20 minutes to listen to him restate everything we've been over. Does he mentioned any new updates?
@@UnrealatedContingency spaceX has to pay 3750 $ fine and booster 1062 tipped over durring landing... so nope
Yeah and also he again talked about S31 sparks... I hate it
They are not insane, insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. They are bold and daring.
It is Boeing which is trying to repeat its successes from half a century ago.
Thanks again for good reporting.
Will Space X still be using a much perfected B1 and B2 be just used around earth and Luna with B3 & beyond missions needing massive amounts of equipment to go to mars & beyond?
I think that the engines had been fired too much and decided that they didn't want to stop when they were supposed to. This caused either part of the rocket to go up and therefore a tip over or the heat prevented a landing leg from deploying.
I would like to suggest you for future videos to make timestamps
"Death, taxes, and delays in rocketry"
Love it
6:08 finally you fixed that typo :D "galaries" has been there since a few vids ;)
Any opinion on the strange noises coming from starliner?
Assuming, Tower B would need to be finished before the launch, so it can be used as a back up for landing if tower A is damaged during launch
Not really. There will be a delay between flight no matter what so they'll have time to work on the 2nd tower before another flight if things go either way.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom really, I thought the time between planned launch and landing the booster was quite short? Around 10min.
Finally someone covered the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality! THAT is a much bigger deal than people realize and the FAA would not grant a license until that matter is resolved. Sounds like with the fine issued they can hopefully get the correct permit for the deluge and get into compliance again.
Thank you :)
21:20 you ROCK IT!🎉❤😅
All I can visualize in the animations of the booster coming back to the pad for a catch-landing is it missing the tower and slams into the tank farm causing a gargantuan explosion.
I hope starship 5 launches on my 35th birthday ! I couldn't be happier if that happened ! My mommy and Daddy promised me A new Lego kit and shelves for my action figures !
I can see back splash type heat tile sheets being used in the future instead of individual tile attachment.
That is why most of the Starship is a simple cylinder. There are many ways to reduce installation costs on a flat or cylindrical surface.
You rock Felix!
SpaceX is not the only game in town, but they are showing what ingenuity and drive - and a few bucks - can do. They are setting very high goals and either meeting them, or learning from the process. Elon may want to go to Mars - in his lifetime - but he is not going to do it at a loss of resources. No - we make money along the way. And oh - btw - act as ambulance for the ISS, as needed. Whether you like Space X or not, whether you think they are doing it all right or all wrong - they are at least doing it. Let 'em go!
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Everything ultimately fails. It looks like a component in one of the legs just had enough. But that's one of the coolest things about SpaceX, they push and find the weakness and fix it. Thanks Felix for all the updates.
Channel metrics... Really?????
I can’t wait to see a full load of “half assembled” raptor 3’s take off.
I am here in Brownsville just to see the launch. I'm here till.the 11th
I want to visit Brownsville and make some spacex fun friends too!
To many sponsor commercials
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Remember SN8? Pretty sure it's gonna be a few months lol. We'll get there eventually though
Excellent stuff bro, go Elon
Sounds to me like they maybe just need to get stricter on their inspections after 20 flights and replace some high or medium wear parts.
Like an Airport, will the Chopstick Tower Arms catch other Rockets That would Install Space X- Rocket Vertical Landing FSF (Full Self Flying -like Tesla FSD) and Grid Fins Landing Arms????
No.. or not yet.
Love SpaceX, still concerned about heat protection, especially around moving joints.
So are they!
The failed booster is NOT a big problem. It is just a normal anomaly
TEXAS the New California,
For F9 booster issue, could it be somehow related to recent change they’ve made for second stage by removing “unnecessary” part? Thanks
Hydrolic piston overpressure
Thanks for another great video. Does SpaceX still have that race car team building their landing legs?
It reminds me of the falcon doors on model X. They could do a simpler solution and save time.
I think one of the best things about the starship program is commercial transit,
this will give everyday people access to a proper view from space, and shut flat earthers up forever ❤
The leg on that rocket went to space and back HOW MANY TIMES?!?! And THAT'S the failure point for the booster??? Let's be real... that booster was a fucking BEAST! Space-X quality is OFF THE CHART!