Citadel Boss 25 12 Gauge Semi-Auto shotgun at the range. Break in and function check!
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- I was pretty happy overall, a few buckshot rounds the crimp caught when loading into the chamber, but surprising it ran a whole box of 7 1/2 birdshot without a hiccup.
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first 5 minutes of this video sums up every trip i've had to the range with this gun
Mine got way better as time went on. Only had issues with high velocity rounds because the bolt outruns the magazine spring when running hot loads. I never ran the heavy weight in mine. It ran 100 percent on 1200 fps federal birdshot
Mine runs perfect, every time if you actually read the manual and have the correct buffer spring/tube installed. What do you expect from a
@@waynehearst317 well i payed 450 when it first came out so it is not a $250 shotgun to me. wanna buy mine?
Paul is great, been watching him a while and have watched everything he has put up that interested me. He hasn't been doing a lot lately that I've been interested in, but still, always looking forward to see what he does.
I also have issues with his use of soda and food as targets, but, I appreciate the meat target trials usually still.
I do prefer just to use cinder blocks as bullet-assessment though
You have a problem with his testing of food because it’s wasteful? I can see that. The cinder block tests are pretty
Good, but I enjoy seeing the power of different rounds side by side on the same medium. Soda bottle are a good media to test comparative power on.
Long Live The Republic!!!
I wouldn't be too happy,,,it jammed quite a bit. But it is a handsome rifle and hopefully with time the jamming issue can be corrected with the right ammo. TY Bro, great review !!! 😁👍
I got it to run on certain types of ammo, but the recoil sucked and it was too heavy and clunky- I sold it
@crankygunreviews Good for you Bro ! TY for the reply and your honesty! 😎👍✝️💕🇺🇲🗽⚖️✊️
I did exactly this with my friend when I got mine. Lmao we were bashing on the gun but kept shooting it and still having fun with it. Lol he's a mechanic and I'm an electrician. We just say everything is a piece of junk until said object works right. 🤣
Other than that we still had a blast shooting it and were excited when it was broken in and finally cycling right.
Mine just keeps getting better and better the more I shoot it
@@crankygunreviews I need to buy more shells so I can be extra sure that it's broken in. But I feel that it is now. But I'm happy with the gun. Love it.
@@novazo1 I have about 250 rounds through mine, runs 100% on federal 12 gauge 1200 FPS birdshot, getting better with slugs and buckshot too. Need to clean mine though.
@@crankygunreviews I need to stock up a little and just go ham with it. Definitely gonna be fun. I only have 60 rounds gone through it so far.
Theres only one person that would dare give me the rasberry.........LONESTAR!!
woo, steel!
I bought two 6" gongs a while ago, but haven't set them up yet (plan only using them at 50+ yds and the spot I have currently is only ~25yds)
just been using apples (because headshots)
I did a real easy setup- we have 4” pipes sunk in the ground at our range for 2x4’s- I use a 1/2” carriage bolt bolted through a small block Chevy valve spring, and into a piece of unit strut. The uni strut goes in the pipe in the ground, and the steering plate pivots on the spring so it has some give in it. Uni strut is pretty strong, al long as I don’t hit it directly. I think it should last a while.
Man, I wish you’d go your bolt catch to release and then fired it after having reloaded a new mag. I’m having issues with my jamming and not firing after releasing the bolt via the bolt catch following a new full mag insertion. I have a couples videos up on the Boss as well. Thanks for sharing! Yours is definitely running better than mine. Did you do anything at all prior to the first shots being fired out of the weapon?
I’ve seen your videos. I tried the bolt release a few times after the bolt locks back, and mine doesn’t always work with a full mag. That’s why I rack the slide… I don’t really expect much out of this, it was the cheapest AR12 I could get, and to me it’s more of a novelty right now. I’m not even sure I’ll keep mine yet.
I got one recently. I seen need to check the tightness of barrel nut and gas chamber collar. Mine were both kinda loose. I tightend mine as tight as could with hands and seamed to get better.
Would you recommend this gun for self defense? It looks to have a harsh kick back.
No. I would not recommend this for self defense. Get a MOSSBERG 500 20 gauge or Maverick 88 20 gauge and you’ll have less recoil and plenty of ammo options, plus a bulletproof action
I just bought a GForce semi auto shotgun but I can’t even get one round to fire. It’s like the firing pin isn’t hitting the primer. Any thoughts?
I know nothing about the Gforce shotguns, sorry
What choke did you shoot the slugs through ? I’ve heard to shoot slugs with no choke
It was cylinder bore, but you can use chokes, just don’t use a full or turkey choke. Improved, modified, improved cylinder are all ok with a slug
@@crankygunreviews please clarify this is The first shotgun with chokes I have on and they are labeled cylinder bore quarter to half choke full choke. Also I believe the one with the compensator on it it has some choke to it. I just put the cylinder bore him because I like to shoot slugs mostly with that gun
@@junkman2758 typically you shoot rifled slugs though a cylinder bore choke. You can run them through a modified choke, but not a full choke. Buffalo outdoors has a great video about shooting slugs through chokes.
Best to use what the manufacturer says to use, you can find in the manual or contact them. Otherwise cylinder, imp cylinder are fine. You can probably get away with modified but I'd stick with the other 2 previous options. And do not ever fire a shotgun without a choke tube installed, you may wreck the threads.
those are really cool cranky id love one but went pump rock island ag12 defender because i bought it on sale for something cheap to shoot defense handled by other guns
I’m pretty happy with this one- I was expecting to be disappointed. The recoil is more than I expected because it’s recoil operation… Ive shot several Beretta semi’s all gas operated and they’re super smooth.
@@crankygunreviews I've heard nothing but good about them I just got s shotgun to have one
Did you have your low velocity gas piston in here?
Yep
Are you able to remove the stock and put an AR-15 adjustable stock?
No, it’s moulded into the lower
The stock is bolted to the upper.. no options here
is it the type of round causing the issue or the gun? I just ordered this exact shotgun.
Both- It wasn’t broken in yet, if you shoot high velocity ammo, put the heavy buffer weight in, or the bolt will outrun the magazine springs and the round will jam when feeding. Mine ran really good on federal field 1200 FPS birdshot, and about 60% on buckshot and slugs. I sold mine cause the recoil is punishing
Mine has not jammed, remember to keep the bolt lubed. It likes it sloppy wet. Also use high brass to keep from hanging up on the magazine feed slide
Mine wasn’t a high brass versus low brass issue/ the higher velocities were causing the bolt to outrun the magazine spring. The bolt would run the shell into the loading ramp and chamber before the magazine could push it fully into the chamber. It’s because I didn’t have the heavy weight in. I didn’t really like this gun, it was heavy, and the recoil was pretty punishing. I sold it
You got me sold lol 🤣 👍
It’s not perfect, but it’s fun that’s for sure
@@crankygunreviews I was actually looking at that yesterday from my local store it's way cheaper than the vr80 and it uses the same magazines cuz they are same company. Im going back today and put it on layaway lol👍 uncle Joe said just get a shotgun and this must be it lol
@@tigergray1100 this is way cheaper than the VR80, and weighs less as well. I think the VR80 has an adjustable gas system, this one does not.
Only comes with 2 weights for varying loads. I was happy mine seems to shoot birdshot reliably, as I MAY try it for sporting clays, but if it stinks at that,
I may sell mine as I don’t think I trust it for self defense knowing it jams with buckshot… I need more time behind it, maybe my next range trip I’ll dedicate an hour so so to this guy,
Great review...just got mine... haven't fired it yet. It's 8/26/2022...you made this video about 10 months ago. Just wondering how many rounds you've ran by now...and how it's doing for you..thanks for the post.🤠
I put about 150 rounds through mine, it was much better but the high velocity stuff would make the bolt outrun the magazine springs and it would jam. I never tried the heavier counter weights. I ended up selling it because the recoil was punishing- it would have been too much for a self defense shotgun for me, and I couldn’t adjust the length of pull which was a bit too long for a self defense gun too,
Overall, it was getting really reliable after break in with anything 1200 fps and higher
@@crankygunreviews Thanks for the feedback. I got mine from my brother in law..and the reason he let it go was...the recoil!! It was too much for his already bad shoulder. He hadn't put enough rounds thru it to give me any advise..so I appreciate yours👍 Thanks again.
@@terryf5131 I don’t have a bad shoulder, and I’m not a wimp, but it has more perceived recoil than a pump shotgun IMO. The recoil is straight back versus on an angle like a standard hunting stock
@@crankygunreviews I'm looking forward to giving it a go..any day out shooting is a good day.😄
@@terryf5131 AMEN to that!
did you feel like a boss ?
25 times lol 🤣
PLIERS… open the mag up from top front to eliminate nose dive jams. . Same as 1911 mags
That want the issue. And I sold this months ago- just didn’t like it
Mass. allows this shotgun ??
Yes, only with 5 round mags.
@@crankygunreviews , Can't own a semi shotgun with a pistol grip in Commie N.J. and went from 15 rd. mags. to 10 rds.. smh.
Seems to be a difference between the ones made here in the States versus the ones made in Turkey
This one was made in turkey. They’re are like 20 companies all selling the same basic gun under different names, with very minor differences but basically the same Guns.
I want one.
I sold mine/ not fun to shoot
That shotgun is very bad news for home invaders holyshit!
I hated shooting it, sold it, and moved on. When it ran right it was pretty cool though
Same as mine different style but same brand
I sold mine- it was not fun to shoot
Would you hunt with this?
No way. This is more of a toy to me.
What would you consider a good hunting gun in your opinion?
@@Kalliswaq for a shotgun or a rifle? And what’s your budget?
@@crankygunreviews shotgun no more than 5
@@Kalliswaq I’d say Remington 870, Mossberg 500, TRISTAR Raptor or Matrix, Benelli Nova… depends on if you want pump or semi- personally I’d go with a Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 or 590 just based on their simplicity, reliability, and ease of swapping barrels for different purposes- I.E. slugs, buckshot, birdshot.
Also you can get the Remington or Mossberg in 12 or 20 gauge so you have even more flexibility.
I have a TRISTAR raptor in 20 gauge and it is very reliable with many types of loads.
You can always go with like a Stoeger condor over/under as well. There are a lot of good choices around $500 or even a little less
Just bought one. Every review I have seen it seems this gun jams!! I'm honestly not excited to take it to the range at all. Good video though
Use 1200 fps and up ammo, mine got better after about 60-75 rounds. It’s pretty reliable now.
Definitely make sure everything is tight, dis-assemble it and clean it well, lube it before you shoot it, mine had loose parts all over the place.
Also, mine the heat shield has a threaded collar that it screws onto, and I had to loctite it together because the collar would get stuck on the barrel, and the shroud would unscrew and I had to use a chisel and hammer to screw it off, then I loctited the two parts to gether
@@crankygunreviews ya I have read you need to take apart a and clean first. That sucks. I want a gun ready to go now ya know? Lol
@@spencerbergon3693 you should always clean a new gun before firing it- many factories use a waxy grease when they pack their guns to keep them from corroding, and if it melts into the action can cause issues right out of the box, until they are cleaned,
Mine was a pain to shoot for the first 2 boxes of 1350 birdshot, bad jams every single shot. Stovepipes, double feeds, all sorts of annoying issues. Then, it just decided to start running great. Be patient and it'll start to run.
@@TheGarratc that’s about how mine went too
i thought this was a comedy skit. 🤣
👍 sometimes it feels that way, I tell you
Bought one brand new today. Load a mag up and it will not go into battery. The not on the bottom of the bolt to hold it open literally indents and make a deep groove on the next round in the magazine. Take the mag out it will charge. Put the mag it you can pull the bolt back because it hits the next round. Call the company who sells these.. 60-120 day turn around time to get it fixed!!!! I haven’t even shot the gun yet and I have to wait 3 months to get it back… I’ve tried everything.. new mag, different ammo. Lubricated the gun. Followed the manual. Did what the company recommended to do before I ship it to them….. NOT HAPPY…
What ammo were you using? Did you try different ammo? I found slugs and buckshot were jamming once in a while, whereas birdshot loaded fine
@@crankygunreviews hevi steel, 3in 1500 psi. Will not even chamber. Or eject.
@@ledgercook5761 try different ammo.
@@crankygunreviews tried 2 3/4 birdshot, same thing
@@ledgercook5761 huh, maybe a burr or something. If changing the magazine did nothing, definitely something wrong with the chamber
The vr80 9 or 10 rounds magazine is compatible with this rifle 👍
Yes, I have heard that most AR12 mags work, just haven’t wanted to buy any till I decide if I want to keep this.
@@crankygunreviews they do fit and compatible I tested it at my local stores..
@@tigergray1100 that’s good to know
How dare you waste soda like that 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Combatting diabetes
oooooh, yes, you too, I see, an amateur to shoot all the cartridges in a row))) I can shoot the whole store at a time
I was trying to see if it would malfunction, but yes I like to shoot fast sometimes.
I bought a citadel it jams all the time its junk really
They work better with the right ammo, when all the parts are tight, when they’re clean and oiled… but they’re a cheap semi auto. I sold mine. Just didn’t really like it
Mine does not shoot good it keeps jamming and I hate it
Jamming with what rounds? I got mine to work great with 1200 fps Federal Target loads, mine jammed when feeding high velocity buckshot and slugs when using the light weight in the action- the bolt would outrun the magazine spring. Also, Winchester Universal would not run in mine at all.
These are supposed to run on 1300 fps and up rounds.
Took it to a gunsmith and they tested it and you have to shoot 3 inch rounds
Not true- I got mine to run consistently on 1200 FPS 2 3/4” shells.
Gun is not good.
It shot fine just a lot of recoil and stuff kept loosening up
You’re lucky… I had nothing but trouble with mine.
I have heard that from a lot of people. It did take 60 or so rounds, and a lot of testing to figure out what it liked for ammo. Most of the issues I had was with higher velocity slugs and buckshot when the bolt would outrun the magazine spring, and a round would jam loading into the chamber.
@5:42 ....you were clever enough to show a picture of strawberry "jam", so why not insert a clever picture of "FLINCH" made ya look? Every single review i've seen of this shotgun has been from a guy who looks like he's A: NEVER fired a 12g before or B: Isn't man enough to shoulder the damn thing correctly. - funny, the lower the price point of the weapon, the lower the quality of the man reviewing it! hahahahahahaha
I admit all the time I flinch. I also admit I am not a professional shooter or a marksman. BUt hey, I put myself out here for guys like you to have something to complain about.
The straight stock on this has a lot more felt recoil than a standard shotgun, and it makes shooting it awkward. I can shoot a single shot 12 gauge with a hard buttpad, which has more recoil than this just fine because the stock has some angle built into it. Why don't you go buy one, make a video with it to correct my inadequacies? I can shoot shotguns all day when they are set up correctly. this is a heavy awkward beast, and the recoil impulse sucked, I did not enjoy shooting it after 2 or 3 range trips so I sold it and moved on. Big deal.
Oh, great question, real simple answer. You know why I don't go buy one and make a video? Because I don't think the quality of my video or my gun handling skills would be worth wasting people's time. I can't juggle....so guess what? I'm not going to make a "juggling" video. That's why, makes sense, right? The difference between you and me and most everyone else is I'm aware of my limitations, so I don't pretend they don't exist and post videos that harm the reputation of a firearm, you do. @@crankygunreviews
Harming the reputation of a $400 Turkish shotgun? Is that possible? Lol
LOL! Great point - @@crankygunreviews
Junk
Wasn’t junk, just because it’s not a brand name. I got it to run very consistently on Federal Target loads and mild buckshot, I sold it though because the recoil was brutal
@@crankygunreviews Dont care about brand name its all the jamming issues i have problems with. Glad you got it to run better. Thanks for the video.
@@drewblack7142 I did a couple subsequent videos explaining what I got to work, and why mine jammed. Basically high velocity rounds of you don’t put the heavy recoil weight in will no side the bolt to outrun the magazine springs, so the round jam going into the chamber due to them not being in the chamber before the bolt closes. That was the only issue I had- 1200 fps bird shot (federal) ran 100% and most light slugs and buckshot (1350 fps) ran 100% too.
Semi’s without adjustable gas systems can be problematic in general. The function of this was more of a blowback even though it has a “gas system”
@@crankygunreviews Awesome...I will check the other videos out as well. Maybe I'll change my mind. LOL
@@drewblack7142 I admit to being a bit frustrated when I first got it too.
Mine said break in with 1500psi for 50 rounds and then its birken in properly.. sfter that yiu can use whatever uiu want 1300fps
Mine was jamming with slugs and buckshot rated at 1600 fps, but I didn’t have the heavy weight in mine either. This was not pleasant to shoot, I sold mine
Also if you use 1500fps it highter you need to swap out has piston so it cycles better .
Yeah I know, which I think is why it was jamming with buckshot
@@crankygunreviews live and learn lol .. I had to study everything about this gun and then go test it out .. since I'm new to all of this . But my gun shoots great .
@@Willis-de5hx mine shot OK with certain ammo, but I hated the recoil impulse, so I sold it.
@@crankygunreviews mines strictly for home defense.. I got it broken in.. and I would sits next to my bed ready to go when needed.
The "What Not To Do" video.
How so?