timecodes. (subs/rate/comment) 00:00 Life in DDR 00:20 Preparations 00:50 T-72 arrive 00:55 Armor strike began 01:12 NVA Mi-24 wave 01:25 Armor strike again 02:11 Mass charge 03:02 source and music
Back in the day, a British brigadier I knew fairly well remarked that after WWII, the Russians got the Prussians, and we got the ones the Prussians beat. Now the latter have submerged the former, and the last German army we will see for generations - if at all - is gone.
@@ladislavtausner6618 Yes, Czechoslovak People's Army was also very competent and powerful. There are maps online about Warsaw Pact counteroffensives plans to use ČSLA for major operations to drive all the way to the French border and even Italy. Thank God that war never happened though, as it would have been the end of Europe and probably the end of humanity.
Most of those T-72s (modernized) are still in good shape in the deep caves of Finland. When DDR and BRD united, Finland bought hefty pile of T-72s from DDR surplus sales. :)
I had a colleague whose father was a Soviet officer and had been serving in the group of the Soviet army in Germany in 60s and 70s. He told that the best Soviet conscripts were assigned to the troops in the DDR because they were supposed the first to attack the West. But in comparison with German soldiers the Soviet ones were not far than an average German soldier. All of them were characterized as highly educated and highly disciplined warriors on whom it was always possible to rely on. Also he told that there were special exercises when Soviet officers had an opportunity to command German troops and as he told it was the highest luxury he had ever had...
Those German communists like Ulbrict were weasles. Sold out their own nation to a foreign power. Its a bit like the current western European leaders who are content to hand their sovereignty over to an unelected European Commission. Shameful.
@@thepub245, funny how you weren't bitching when these same western nations handed much of their sovereignty over to the US. It seems like you're fine with it so long as US & British imperial hegemony is not challenged.
@@Lionfish5656 Thanks for f**k all. You are talking crap, nobody handed their sovereignty over to the US. Come on, let's hear your juvenile arguments to justify your rubbish.
There was a analysis of the effectiveness of the NVA in a actual war situation they concluded that the East German army was one of the most effective of the Warsaw Pact militaries due to its training military disabling and professionalism and would be as effective in combat as the old Wehrmacht.
@@moif_velocita вермахт гитлера проиграл из за гитлера......... НА США могли и не нападать ...... США поставляли в германию нефть и масла для техники до конца 1944 года !!! адмирал канарис был агентом англии и запудрил мозг гитлеру чтобы тот напал на СССР!!!
A study at the US Army War College - mid 1980s I believe - concluded that equipment notwithstanding, division for division the NVA was the best army on either side, and that it was fortunate for NATO it only had 6 divisions.
@@verabecker4342 Perhaps, Vera - But all of us then & there were combat veterans (most Army, me & a couple of others Marines) as well as War College graduates ourselves, and unless you are both a combat veteran and the graduate of some war college, you have nothing except emotion on which to base your statement.
Когда немецкая армия еще смотрелась мужественно... Знаю советских военных, которые говорят, что и дисциплина у них была гораздо выше! Фильм смотрится очень качественно, даже сейчас! Особено удивил вид через настоящий прицел т-72. В нашем кино такого не было!
Did it felt like the occupation or everyone was just satisfied with all good aspects of socialism and some elements of free market? Because here we in Belarus now feel quite I think the same. Russia pays but also rules. Our government is very not democratic, but corruption somehow is low and socialism really good
@@kirill1376 @Kirill they never had much to do with Russians.... They where ruled by their own people. Hard to say, since I was not there only heared about it. The man had a joke to discribe it: If you ask is the Russian your friend or your brother? Of course your brother. How is this? Well you can choose your friends, but not your siblings!
мне нравится то, насколько подготовлена была армия в то время. вы не представляете насколько сложно обучить солдат даже ходить строем, один взвод, а тут целая армия. пантонная переправа одна чего стоит, не так просто форсировать реки. а снабжение... сегодня многое из этого утеряно, я имею в виду взаимодействие и организация более-менее массовой армии, а армия это множество её родов войск.
Вот и хорошо что утеряно, пускай эти знания вообще уничтожат из истории, лучше торговать и радоваться жизни нежели учить людей организации массовой армии, хотя у пост-совков возможно другое мнение на этот счет.
@@zerotolerance4146 Ты из барака пишешь ? В противном случае я не понимаю твоего коммента ибо ты сейчас живешь на континенте без войны и пользуешься плюшками глобальной кооперации, если не нравиться все это то иди в барак и маршируй.
@@ТимурХисматов-ж8ж Если мы говорим о какой-нибудь Африке или Азии то да, там ничего не изменилось но Европа после второй мировой изменилась, никто воевать не хочет, на континенте сейчас только Россия войной лезет в другие страны.
@@slavaukrainitv2716 The DDR, despite all the distortions, remained the most democratic state for ordinary people. The East Germans, for the most part, will confirm this.
@@АлексейФедин-п1г lmao being imprisoned and not being allowed to leave your own country aoida really Democratic...furthermore the are very very few people in Germany that are pro communism and there are usually blue haired LGBT women from the far left.
Очень обидно что после объединения Германии все офицеры народной армии ГДР были уволены. Хотя это не справедливо , недемократично , .. от себя как человек видевший обе армии , народную армию ГДР и бундесвер , повезло время такое было. Армия ГДР была более пооффесиональна , технически и морально, в случае военного конфликта можно не сомневаться что армия ГДР легко бы разгромила бундесвер , и их американских , всех , союзников в пределах Германии даже не прибегая к помощи советской армии !!! Армия ГДР это на самом деле была самая сильная армия Европы !! И пусть поляки, чехи, румыны молча курят !!
There wouldn't be anything left of any of you to "smoke". Cruise missiles, Pershing II's, tactical nuclear weapons would all be pissing on your victory parade long before you could plan it. Sorry, Ivan. It was just never meant to be.
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry першинги хуершинги . ели бы да как бы . на ваши тактические ядерные ракеты ответ был бы стратегическими ядерными ракетами . весь мир в труху .
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry "Würde", "wäre" - Gartenschere. Fakt ist - die Westizisten haben es nicht gewagt einen Angriff zu starten. Naja zumindest rembo hat es geschaft....
No way. They would have ran into their own living Hell. 1st British Corps would have given them the death that they obviously craved. Stopped them in their tracks. Glad they stuck to their pretty parade. Safer for them🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@wessexheathen5708 According to the estimates of the American military, the GDR army was indeed the most combat-ready army in Europe. This applied to both military equipment and weapons. so does the training of soldiers and officers. Motivation is also important ... As for the 1st Corps .... well, it seems to me that the Germans would with GREAT pleasure repeat the events at Dunkirk. And the glorious British soldiers once again, having shit in their breeches, throwing away equipment and weapons, would have been waiting for fishermen on boats to sail to their sunny Britain. Everyone knows how the British fight on land ... never mind, I must say.
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If this Video had been around in 1989, the DDR would still be going strong.
Steve is correct. Throughout the Cold War, the US and Nato never renounced first use of nukes for a reason. All WP armor concentrations, among other targets, far into the USSR western interior would be incinerated by cruise missles or tactical nuke air strikes shortly (VERY) after SACEUR determined a WP advance to be imminent (as in BEFORE it was about to happen). No presidential order necessary. By the 1980's, Soviet command and control centres could be eliminated within five minutes by Pershing II's based in Britain. None of this was going to end well for anyone, but if there was going to be a "loser", it wouldn't be Nato.
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry Obviously any scenario of World War III would have started with the Soviet Union nuclear striking hard NATO targets like all military and industrial installations in Britain and West Germany and France, the Brits made the movie "Threads" for a reason, they knew they were the first to go. When the Cuban missile crisis broke, people in West Germany didn't show up to work, they wanted to spend their last days with their families.
@@NorceCodine this is because NATO is nothing but the fourth Reich, totally anti-human, and the only reason why communism was truly stopped. NATO had zero problem killing hundreds of millions to keep rich people rich, the USSR would never consider such an option.
There are a lot of enthusiasts in east Germany who care and value the old equipment and they have a lot of them (even still in service)! They meet and visit all kinds of festivals and automotive meetings all over Europe! Very interesting the old Trucks who can pull a Armored carrier😂😂😂 out of the mud! The East German AK's were very in demand for example for the US market, but also collectors who have a AK from every single Warsaw Pact Country! (incl Polish, Czech and other versions)
My dad was a us soldier in the 1990’s and when he was stationed in Germany he took an NVA uniform jacket with him. I got a peaked cap and hope to complete a uniform soon.
@@harrybyaqussamprayuga1756 Most of the time its probably because they turn it off or something for transport and stuff, because I have seen plenty of T72s in combat with their stabilizers working
@@harrybyaqussamprayuga1756 Well atleast in action most tank combat is sitting still so not surprised, but you should check out the T72 combat footage from Syria, some had GoPros on their barrel so stabilizers are clearly shown
Übungsgelände bei Torgelow.Wenn Übung mit den Russen war, hast du es noch 20 Kilometer weiter mitbekommen. Hubschrauber im Tiefflug.Panzer im Dorf usw.
В ГДР очень сложно было попасть, отец ездил по комсомольской путевке, путевок было штук пять на областной центр. Привез мешок всяких ништяков - одежда, фотопленка цветная, бытовая химия, но меня особенно конечно всякие сладости поразили.
Let's be honest the NVA would have trashed the Bundeswehr. There was a joke that sayed the NVA would easily overrun West Germany if they wouldn't stop at the first mall :D
Don't think so bud lol I like the NVA a lot but can grasp the reality that the BW was multiple times larger and better equipped, and that's pretty much objective fact. The NVA wouldn't have held long against it. Don't be cringe. BW was 2.5x the size of NVA not even including reserves, had top of the line equipment and way more advanced training, while NVA was equipped like every other NSWPN and had slightly better soviet-tier training.
@@crispyblacon1 last time i checked BW with my grandfather, be it stories or records, their equipment etc, they suck ass my dude. I am biased but i preffer our guns that i know i can rely on and NVA army than some budget wehrmacht mcdonald mercs with whatever M16 uteration they made up
These shots reminded me of a story. Czechoslovakia, approximately 70s. Representatives of a number of NATO countries arrived for some negotiations and, among other things, they were hunted. The foresters organized everything - they prepared positions for shooters in a large open clearing, found deer in the forest and drove them into the clearing. The diplomats are lying in their dens, waiting for the deer, stroking the bolts of their guns. At this time, a Russian tank company was returning from a training exercise. The commander was in a good mood - the exercises were successful, he expected gratitude, and maybe a bigger reward. His tanks rush along the forest road, their guns swinging rhythmically, and in general life is wonderful. At this moment, a herd of deer crosses the path of the tanks and runs off into the forest. The commander’s hunter’s instinct has kicked in, he is already imagining a soldier’s dinner of venison - the command “do as I do” is flying over the radio and a dozen roaring monsters made of Ural steel rush into the forest after the deer, destroying everything in their path. The commander hurries to uncover the turret heavy machine gun. First, a herd of deer jumped into the clearing with the diplomats, the tipsy guests began to shoot wherever they could - and at that moment the forest overturned and everyone immediately sobered up: a tank company flew into the clearing at full speed, and from the lead vehicle the commander opened fire from his heavy machine gun. The foresters then searched the forest for a long time for these diplomats. They spent the longest time looking for a diplomat from Germany - being an experienced Wehrmacht soldier who had served on the eastern front, he knew what to do when Russian tanks were flying at you: he hid so much in some crevice that they found him only with dogs.
Wondering how many losses the attackers will have against leopards in full cover waiting for the enemy who is in the open field... Luck for us, this brother against brother had never happen.. greetings from east germany.
Extreme. Yom Kippur and onward had proven that forces in the open get annihilated by forces in cover, especially when the defenders have a huge advantage in FCS, optics, and armor. Covered positions however would have first been scouted by recon, attacked by infantry and shelled by an ungodly amount of artillery, large tank forces were reserved for exploiting breakthroughs or weak points.
@@Stimlake Yom Kippur .... Arabs in Tanks, without drill and without being political trained. the performance of the tanks is only one side of the coin
Imagine the level of tank and armored vehicle technology today had Germany united under the East and entered a cooperation with the Soviets to share their knowledge with each other. I'm quite sure the resulting tank would be able to take on an entire American armored division of M1 Abrams by itself :)
In the movie those were Soviet T-72's and the main characters of movie considered them to be new kids on the block. They were attached to their T-62's.
79-83 ГСВГ Вюнсдорф, всё прекрасно помню, ННА ГДР - флагман союзнических сил СССР, очень высокая выучка, профессионализм, преданность делу, офицеры - умнички!...очень обидно, что плешивый "немец года" угробил всё это.
Oh good days.. some sailing on the baltic sea on the morning, some vodka with the lads on the noon and some tank attacking to the west Germany on the evening
Thats what i find so interesting about the "de-nazification'' part of ww2. The allies guilt tripped them into oblivion because they dared to challenge British ego and supremacy, and the Soviets brutally beat them, then rebuilt the nation and treated its citizens not as nazis, but rather as victims of Hitlers madness.
It would have been an invasion of 5000 to 6000 tanks and 600.000 to 700.000 troops. Warsaw pact tank units always had strong anti aircraft artillery and missile systems close by. And if one learned an important lesson from WW2: sheer mass will overcome less but higher quality numbers. Sowiets
The Warsaw Pact only had a slight numerical edge over the NATO nations. The attacker would have needed a minimum 3 to 1, and preferably a 9 to 1 advantage to achieve a decisive victory. All NATO had to do was to build enough tanks, warplanes, and have enough trained troops that it was unlikely that the Soviet Union could win. Western nations had a greater economy, and only had to dedicate a much smaller portion of their economy to defense. The Soviet Union committed a much higher percentage of a smaller economy to warfare; thus reducing the growth of their economy. This is a major reason the Communists lost. NATO and the Warsaw Pact were basically evenly matched, however, to win the Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact had to be able to achieve significant superiority, and they were just not capable of doing that. The people of Europe, and the world are lucky that neither side initiated a war.
@@paladinsix9285 The people of Europe, and the world, are being introduced to their new slavery now. It was lucky for the NATO fascists that the war never went hot.
The NVA is a historically well trained and equipped armed force of a German territorial state. East Germany didn't have much of the heavy industry and military technology needed to produce heavy military weapons, but they always produced the best light weapons. Most of their military equipment is provided by the Soviet Union and they do not cost much to equip. They attach great importance to training and training officers and non-commissioned officers - soldiers in the best way, surpassing the Soviet Red Army in the Warsaw Pact. There is a contrast with West Germany in the past, and Germany in the present. East Germany economically - if compared with "Western Standards", they are not equal to West Germany, but compared to military and defense forces, NATO considers them a dangerous adversary. The East German Armed Forces - NVA are still better trained than the current Bundeswehr. The Bundeswehr has faced difficulties in recent years because the federal defense budget cuts, weapons and equipment of the Bundeswehr are degraded and not suitable for modern warfare. Perhaps, German soldiers should blame and condemn German politicians for "eating away" of many things from them, from military supplies to infantry ammunition. Germany's military industry may be the most developed in the world, but German military contractors only know how to produce modern weapons such as Leopard 2A8 Tank, EF2000 aircraft, but most of them are sold to foreign countries. to make a profit, but no politician lobbied parliament to spend money to buy them for the Bundeswehr.
@@SenexNovem Bullshit. Germany is getting weaker because of the influence of liberals and 'greens'. Coalition governments are useless. Also, the British Army of the Rhine is history, catch up. Come to think if it, the British military has been cut to point seriously undermining effectiveness, again the influence of liberals and socialists.
The redfacist so called "NVA" of the redfacist prison camp namend "GDR" of the USSR in Germany had the German war-slaves under the command of the communists in Moscow.
If you are talking about tanks in general, armor will never become obsolete. They will become unmanned fighting machines in the future. If you are talking about T72 tank itself, then again NO. T72 is still very effective tank and in middle east they are even using t54/55. Modified and upgraded T72 can fight shot and shot against modern tanks.
My father was an officer in the West German army intelligence section from the mid 80s until 1992, after the wall came down and the Bundeswehr began to shrink. He told me that immediately prior to the fall of the East German government and it was confirmed after once the NVAs material was tested and its personnel interviewed that, and I quote- "We assumed 40% of the NVA would fight initially until they had an opportunity to surrender, especially if they observed the qualities of the west. 20% would either refuse orders and not fight at all- the remaining 40% we took very seriously"
@@slashmerc2764 my dad told me that if they were attacking he would have disobeyed orders but if the west would have attacked his entire company would have been fighting to the last.
timecodes. (subs/rate/comment)
00:00 Life in DDR
00:20 Preparations
00:50 T-72 arrive
00:55 Armor strike began
01:12 NVA Mi-24 wave
01:25 Armor strike again
02:11 Mass charge
03:02 source and music
What movie is this from?
@@nathanielh.5498 description
@@nathanielh.5498 movie is actually boring af
Awesome !!
Thanks you.
2:45, U.S. aircraft do to you what they did to your socialist friends in iraq. RIP...
Probably more combat ready than the whole Bundeswehr today.
My cat is more combat ready than the Bundeswehr.
The Bundeswehr is a good army. Our politicians are shitty as hell. Traitors for the most parts.
Back in the day, a British brigadier I knew fairly well remarked that after WWII, the Russians got the Prussians, and we got the ones the Prussians beat. Now the latter have submerged the former, and the last German army we will see for generations - if at all - is gone.
@@docbrosk The lost of Prussia and his consecuences was a disaster for the German history.
Maybe but not for long.
The DDR - the Soviets' most reliable Ally in the Warsaw Pact, and among the strongest, alongside the Polish People's Army.
They had pretty low confidence in the Poles' willingness to not take pot shots at their soviet "allies" given the chance.
Poland was easily the most ineffective WP member state.
You meant among Czechoslovak People‘s Army right?
@@ladislavtausner6618 Yes, Czechoslovak People's Army was also very competent and powerful. There are maps online about Warsaw Pact counteroffensives plans to use ČSLA for major operations to drive all the way to the French border and even Italy. Thank God that war never happened though, as it would have been the end of Europe and probably the end of humanity.
@@ilyatsukanov8707
You saying Czechoslovakia would have destroyed humanity? Maybe you must calm down a little with your fantasies.
Most of those T-72s (modernized) are still in good shape in the deep caves of Finland.
When DDR and BRD united, Finland bought hefty pile of T-72s from DDR surplus sales. :)
I saw most of the NVA T55s were scrapped but never know the fate of theirT72s, surprisingly they goes to Finland! Thanks sharing 😊
One helluva deal lol
Nope, all scrapped and the spare parts sold away.
Smart move by the Finns
I had a colleague whose father was a Soviet officer and had been serving in the group of the Soviet army in Germany in 60s and 70s. He told that the best Soviet conscripts were assigned to the troops in the DDR because they were supposed the first to attack the West. But in comparison with German soldiers the Soviet ones were not far than an average German soldier. All of them were characterized as highly educated and highly disciplined warriors on whom it was always possible to rely on. Also he told that there were special exercises when Soviet officers had an opportunity to command German troops and as he told it was the highest luxury he had ever had...
Those German communists like Ulbrict were weasles. Sold out their own nation to a foreign power. Its a bit like the current western European leaders who are content to hand their sovereignty over to an unelected European Commission. Shameful.
@@thepub245, funny how you weren't bitching when these same western nations handed much of their sovereignty over to the US. It seems like you're fine with it so long as US & British imperial hegemony is not challenged.
@@Lionfish5656 👍👍👍
@@kartoffelfresser2347 thanks.
@@Lionfish5656 Thanks for f**k all. You are talking crap, nobody handed their sovereignty over to the US. Come on, let's hear your juvenile arguments to justify your rubbish.
There was a analysis of the effectiveness of the NVA in a actual war situation they concluded that the East German army was one of the most effective of the Warsaw Pact militaries due to its training military disabling and professionalism and would be as effective in combat as the old Wehrmacht.
So... they were losers?
@@moif_velocita вермахт гитлера проиграл из за гитлера......... НА США могли и не нападать ...... США поставляли в германию нефть и масла для техники до конца 1944 года !!! адмирал канарис был агентом англии и запудрил мозг гитлеру чтобы тот напал на СССР!!!
Bla bla bla @@Manfred-von-Stern Lay off the vodka Darling
The wermacht's effectiveness is very often overstated.
@@Watashiwadeus According to people particularly offended by simply looking at Austrian painter yes
It's always a good day when Mauzer uploads a new video. But the East German aesthetics are a nice lead and steel bonus.
A study at the US Army War College - mid 1980s I believe - concluded that equipment notwithstanding, division for division the NVA was the best army on either side, and that it was fortunate for NATO it only had 6 divisions.
Dreamweaver
@@verabecker4342 Perhaps, Vera - But all of us then & there were combat veterans (most Army, me & a couple of others Marines) as well as War College graduates ourselves, and unless you are both a combat veteran and the graduate of some war college, you have nothing except emotion on which to base your statement.
@@docbrosk Beileid
@@verabecker4342 Auch
@@palastofhistory4026 so you are saying the bundeswehr was full of losers and ex-nazis from WW2. Noted.
Очередной шедевр гениального Маузера! Блицкриг здорового народа. О фильме не знал, надо посмотреть. Благодарю за видео!
Name of film?
@@neki203 Офицеры
@@neki203 'Offiziere', 1986. Its name is given in the end of video.
А причём тут фильм? Как он тут фигурирует?
А всё вижу
Когда немецкая армия еще смотрелась мужественно... Знаю советских военных, которые говорят, что и дисциплина у них была гораздо выше! Фильм смотрится очень качественно, даже сейчас! Особено удивил вид через настоящий прицел т-72. В нашем кино такого не было!
A friends father was a tank soldier at NVA, they allways said we are here to hold long enough until the Russians arrive to do the job :D
Did it felt like the occupation or everyone was just satisfied with all good aspects of socialism and some elements of free market? Because here we in Belarus now feel quite I think the same. Russia pays but also rules. Our government is very not democratic, but corruption somehow is low and socialism really good
@@kirill1376 @Kirill they never had much to do with Russians.... They where ruled by their own people. Hard to say, since I was not there only heared about it. The man had a joke to discribe it: If you ask is the Russian your friend or your brother? Of course your brother. How is this? Well you can choose your friends, but not your siblings!
@@kirill1376 Змагара порвало
Армия ГДР 🔥 🔥 🔥 Отличная работа! Лайк) 👍
мне нравится то, насколько подготовлена была армия в то время. вы не представляете насколько сложно обучить солдат даже ходить строем, один взвод, а тут целая армия. пантонная переправа одна чего стоит, не так просто форсировать реки. а снабжение... сегодня многое из этого утеряно, я имею в виду взаимодействие и организация более-менее массовой армии, а армия это множество её родов войск.
Вот и хорошо что утеряно, пускай эти знания вообще уничтожат из истории, лучше торговать и радоваться жизни нежели учить людей организации массовой армии, хотя у пост-совков возможно другое мнение на этот счет.
@@samuels1197 так иди торгуй и катайся на радуге, профессиональный совок
@@zerotolerance4146 Ты из барака пишешь ? В противном случае я не понимаю твоего коммента ибо ты сейчас живешь на континенте без войны и пользуешься плюшками глобальной кооперации, если не нравиться все это то иди в барак и маршируй.
@@samuels1197 кто не хочет кормить свою армию, будет кормить чужую... вечная истина, ничего не изменилось...
@@ТимурХисматов-ж8ж Если мы говорим о какой-нибудь Африке или Азии то да, там ничего не изменилось но Европа после второй мировой изменилась, никто воевать не хочет, на континенте сейчас только Россия войной лезет в другие страны.
DDR - is the Best of the Best!!! Respect! From USSR with Love!
DDR stands for undemocratic prison
@@slavaukrainitv2716 The DDR, despite all the distortions, remained the most democratic state for ordinary people. The East Germans, for the most part, will confirm this.
@@АлексейФедин-п1г lmao being imprisoned and not being allowed to leave your own country aoida really Democratic...furthermore the are very very few people in Germany that are pro communism and there are usually blue haired LGBT women from the far left.
@@slavaukrainitv2716 Most of the people from the East want back the old days just because with the communist regime everyone had jobs.
Очень обидно что после объединения Германии все офицеры народной армии ГДР были уволены. Хотя это не справедливо , недемократично , .. от себя как человек видевший обе армии , народную армию ГДР и бундесвер , повезло время такое было. Армия ГДР была более пооффесиональна , технически и морально, в случае военного конфликта можно не сомневаться что армия ГДР легко бы разгромила бундесвер , и их американских , всех , союзников в пределах Германии даже не прибегая к помощи советской армии !!! Армия ГДР это на самом деле была самая сильная армия Европы !! И пусть поляки, чехи, румыны молча курят !!
There wouldn't be anything left of any of you to "smoke". Cruise missiles, Pershing II's, tactical nuclear weapons would all be pissing on your victory parade long before you could plan it. Sorry, Ivan. It was just never meant to be.
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry першинги хуершинги . ели бы да как бы . на ваши тактические ядерные ракеты ответ был бы стратегическими ядерными ракетами . весь мир в труху .
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry "Würde", "wäre" - Gartenschere. Fakt ist - die Westizisten haben es nicht gewagt einen Angriff zu starten. Naja zumindest rembo hat es geschaft....
No way. They would have ran into their own living Hell. 1st British Corps would have given them the death that they obviously craved. Stopped them in their tracks. Glad they stuck to their pretty parade. Safer for them🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@wessexheathen5708 According to the estimates of the American military, the GDR army was indeed the most combat-ready army in Europe. This applied to both military equipment and weapons. so does the training of soldiers and officers. Motivation is also important ... As for the 1st Corps .... well, it seems to me that the Germans would with GREAT pleasure repeat the events at Dunkirk. And the glorious British soldiers once again, having shit in their breeches, throwing away equipment and weapons, would have been waiting for fishermen on boats to sail to their sunny Britain. Everyone knows how the British fight on land ... never mind, I must say.
If this Video had been around in 1989, the DDR would still be going strong.
Had the war turned HOT the armor engagements would have blown Kursk away.
Steve is correct. Throughout the Cold War, the US and Nato never renounced first use of nukes for a reason. All WP armor concentrations, among other targets, far into the USSR western interior would be incinerated by cruise missles or tactical nuke air strikes shortly (VERY) after SACEUR determined a WP advance to be imminent (as in BEFORE it was about to happen). No presidential order necessary. By the 1980's, Soviet command and control centres could be eliminated within five minutes by Pershing II's based in Britain. None of this was going to end well for anyone, but if there was going to be a "loser", it wouldn't be Nato.
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry Obviously any scenario of World War III would have started with the Soviet Union nuclear striking hard NATO targets like all military and industrial installations in Britain and West Germany and France, the Brits made the movie "Threads" for a reason, they knew they were the first to go. When the Cuban missile crisis broke, people in West Germany didn't show up to work, they wanted to spend their last days with their families.
@@NorceCodine this is because NATO is nothing but the fourth Reich, totally anti-human, and the only reason why communism was truly stopped. NATO had zero problem killing hundreds of millions to keep rich people rich, the USSR would never consider such an option.
There are a lot of enthusiasts in east Germany who care and value the old equipment and they have a lot of them (even still in service)!
They meet and visit all kinds of festivals and automotive meetings all over Europe!
Very interesting the old Trucks who can pull a Armored carrier😂😂😂 out of the mud!
The East German AK's were very in demand for example for the US market, but also collectors who have a AK from every single Warsaw Pact Country! (incl Polish, Czech and other versions)
My dad was a us soldier in the 1990’s and when he was stationed in Germany he took an NVA uniform jacket with him. I got a peaked cap and hope to complete a uniform soon.
1:06 rare moment where we see T-72s actually uses their stabilizer
You really think that every T-72 crews never used stabilizer?
@@Kalashnikov413 No, I meant that thing rarely shown working in Russian tanks in videos
@@harrybyaqussamprayuga1756 Most of the time its probably because they turn it off or something for transport and stuff, because I have seen plenty of T72s in combat with their stabilizers working
@@Frisher1 Yes that's my point. They don't really bother to show that off to us so it's rare to see them in action
@@harrybyaqussamprayuga1756 Well atleast in action most tank combat is sitting still so not surprised, but you should check out the T72 combat footage from Syria, some had GoPros on their barrel so stabilizers are clearly shown
My dad does his duty in NVA in 1978-80 as coporal in a decontermination platoon (ABC-defence)
Слава Хоннекеру!
He said "Soviets like little boys"
Хорошо что он отчалил ....
Nostalgia and pride for a country that I never saw :')
Larp
The DDR was best enjoyed from the other side of the wall.
lol pride for a puppet state
@@oatdilemma6395 As oppossed to Council of Europe countries totally not being puppet states for the USA after WW2.
A good tank, has no effect on the outcome of a war, but a lot of good enough tanks do.
Not when their crews are sick with radiation poisoning.
Operation desert storm, Yom Kippur and six day war would disagree with you
You may win the war on the ground, but if you lose the air, you lost the war.
@@deason2365 untrained crews, obsolete and even training ammo and no Idea how tu use them
@@barbarapitenthusiast7103 Saddams army defiantly knew how to use their tanks
Круто, как всегда! Давай, Маузер, дожми до 100 тысяч!
Precision weapons in a race against sheer brute force
The "race" would be over before the runners were out of their blocks.
This video made me try to play east Germany in warno and now I play them every time so good thank you so much!
The picture quality and colors on this video were great!
Came back a year later: the music and the Est Germany army in the video still kick ass!
This is such a cool video🔥🔥
Keep making more ❤️
This made me want to login to Warthunder and suffer with my T-55.What a beauty !
Übungsgelände bei Torgelow.Wenn Übung mit den Russen war, hast du es noch 20 Kilometer weiter mitbekommen. Hubschrauber im Tiefflug.Panzer im Dorf usw.
Эх, каких союзников Горбач сдал...
Эх времена когда можно было время съездить в СССР за водкой, а в Германию за джинсами или пивом, и при этом без виз!
Без виз только на танке.
Да и съездить только по профсоюзной путевке, если повезет
Ну вот, что хотел - то и получил. Щас для тебя и водка, и пиво, и джинсы.
Только страны нашей теперь нет.
Наслаждайся.
Эээээх и мороженное было настоящее,и колбаса без гмо
В ГДР очень сложно было попасть, отец ездил по комсомольской путевке, путевок было штук пять на областной центр. Привез мешок всяких ништяков - одежда, фотопленка цветная, бытовая химия, но меня особенно конечно всякие сладости поразили.
Honey wake up, a new mauser vid just dropped
Glory to the DDR
The DDR no longer exists.
It died and went to NATO.
Fr
@@renemoya6831it is alive in out hearts
Лучшие из наших союзников, самые преданные. Извините что горбачев нас всех продал.
Ich muss dir zustimmen.
Beautiful scenes from the GDR Movie "Offiziere"!
5 years later most of those "offiziere" would be out of a job.
And all that awesome machinery scrapped or sold off.
@@clubtcb Oh, well. Better than it should have been vapourized or irradiated along with the rest of the Warsaw Pact.
WoW!!! Starke Aufnahmen, starke Musik. Bravo!!!!!
I miss the Warsaw Pact..
Волосатые танки прекрасны
Пусть весси знают свое место! Восточная Германия - лучшая Германия!
Did you said Western Poland! Berlin is polish like all lands to the elbe river!
😂😂😂
@@Richardnixonloyalist
So come and take it. Make my day.
Very very nice footage.
Let's be honest the NVA would have trashed the Bundeswehr.
There was a joke that sayed the NVA would easily overrun West Germany if they wouldn't stop at the first mall :D
they would bomb the mall seeing its full of consumerist crap like "wheelchair henry stick figure"
Don't think so bud lol I like the NVA a lot but can grasp the reality that the BW was multiple times larger and better equipped, and that's pretty much objective fact. The NVA wouldn't have held long against it. Don't be cringe. BW was 2.5x the size of NVA not even including reserves, had top of the line equipment and way more advanced training, while NVA was equipped like every other NSWPN and had slightly better soviet-tier training.
@@crispyblacon1 last time i checked BW with my grandfather, be it stories or records, their equipment etc, they suck ass my dude. I am biased but i preffer our guns that i know i can rely on and NVA army than some budget wehrmacht mcdonald mercs with whatever M16 uteration they made up
@@WM-gf8zm Yeah you're more than biased, you're brainwashed. You do you kiddo.
@@crispyblacon1 cope bundeschwein
I don't know what's hotter: the DDR panzers or the music !
Пересмотрели тут с другом этот фильм - в ГДР всё же, умели снимать годное кино...
By far your best edit
Imagine their joy, getting new T-72s to replace their T-55s
Один из моих любимых фильмов.
Watching them on 60fps feels like this video was taken yesterday
I approve of this great video!
Классно как всегда!
ультрахарош
но, надо писать не Т55 и Т72, а Т-55 и Т-72 т.к Т без дефиса были обозначения тяжелых танков у американцев
Thank you for letting me know this movie exists.
красиво. здесь т-72 так разу не узнать, издалека смотрятся даже как м1 или леопард
Stunning footage!
I am truck driver from Finland. I remember My second or third trip to DDR. Zoll, or Volks Polizei give 200 Mark ticket for me....😉
These shots reminded me of a story.
Czechoslovakia, approximately 70s. Representatives of a number of NATO countries arrived for some negotiations and, among other things, they were hunted. The foresters organized everything - they prepared positions for shooters in a large open clearing, found deer in the forest and drove them into the clearing. The diplomats are lying in their dens, waiting for the deer, stroking the bolts of their guns.
At this time, a Russian tank company was returning from a training exercise. The commander was in a good mood - the exercises were successful, he expected gratitude, and maybe a bigger reward. His tanks rush along the forest road, their guns swinging rhythmically, and in general life is wonderful. At this moment, a herd of deer crosses the path of the tanks and runs off into the forest. The commander’s hunter’s instinct has kicked in, he is already imagining a soldier’s dinner of venison - the command “do as I do” is flying over the radio and a dozen roaring monsters made of Ural steel rush into the forest after the deer, destroying everything in their path. The commander hurries to uncover the turret heavy machine gun.
First, a herd of deer jumped into the clearing with the diplomats, the tipsy guests began to shoot wherever they could - and at that moment the forest overturned and everyone immediately sobered up: a tank company flew into the clearing at full speed, and from the lead vehicle the commander opened fire from his heavy machine gun.
The foresters then searched the forest for a long time for these diplomats. They spent the longest time looking for a diplomat from Germany - being an experienced Wehrmacht soldier who had served on the eastern front, he knew what to do when Russian tanks were flying at you: he hid so much in some crevice that they found him only with dogs.
A German- German war would have been horrible.
Good, that we have left this situation behind.
Now, in the end, we will all fight together in the NATO war against Russia. Great upgrade!
Nice video, I have "Ossi" relatives who served in DDR military (conscripts).
Wondering how many losses the attackers will have against leopards in full cover waiting for the enemy who is in the open field... Luck for us, this brother against brother had never happen.. greetings from east germany.
Extreme. Yom Kippur and onward had proven that forces in the open get annihilated by forces in cover, especially when the defenders have a huge advantage in FCS, optics, and armor. Covered positions however would have first been scouted by recon, attacked by infantry and shelled by an ungodly amount of artillery, large tank forces were reserved for exploiting breakthroughs or weak points.
@John Streyn okay.. the NATO dont have AA vehicles and long range recon and planes..
@@Stimlake Yom Kippur .... Arabs in Tanks, without drill and without being political trained. the performance of the tanks is only one side of the coin
@@luisschreck1804 Moroccan Jordanian and Iraqi tankers where the only ones who knew how to drive and combat a tank.
yeah its sickening to think about it. wonder how you keep the fighting morale up once the troops realised that they are shooting their own kin.
This was a really good video, I love the music! I have an urge to play arma 3 GM now
Imagine the level of tank and armored vehicle technology today had Germany united under the East and entered a cooperation with the Soviets to share their knowledge with each other.
I'm quite sure the resulting tank would be able to take on an entire American armored division of M1 Abrams by itself :)
Finally DDR
The only downside of this video is, that it ends ..
The video quality is amazing
Song name: Almost Evil - Infraction
Wessi максимум пять дней против Ossi продержались бы. NVA последняя немецкая армия была.
NVA
@@dmitridmitri8731 верно.
The NVA would’ve made damn good use of those T-72M1’s. Happy we never had to fight them.
In the movie those were Soviet T-72's and the main characters of movie considered them to be new kids on the block. They were attached to their T-62's.
I miss them so goddamn much bros.
Larp
Nice Movie about the NVA.
Finally, you upload again
Ультралайк, шедеврально
This is amazing!
79-83 ГСВГ Вюнсдорф, всё прекрасно помню, ННА ГДР - флагман союзнических сил СССР, очень высокая выучка, профессионализм, преданность делу, офицеры - умнички!...очень обидно, что плешивый "немец года" угробил всё это.
Oh good days.. some sailing on the baltic sea on the morning, some vodka with the lads on the noon and some tank attacking to the west Germany on the evening
🙂🙂🙂👍
Спасибо, привет из конфедерации
I think the people who served in this army understood what power they were. Today's Germany is just tears
Thats what i find so interesting about the "de-nazification'' part of ww2.
The allies guilt tripped them into oblivion because they dared to challenge British ego and supremacy,
and the Soviets brutally beat them, then rebuilt the nation and treated its citizens not as nazis, but rather as victims of Hitlers madness.
У меня отец служил в танковых войсках на территории ГДР.
Great work.
It would have been an invasion of 5000 to 6000 tanks and 600.000 to 700.000 troops. Warsaw pact tank units always had strong anti aircraft artillery and missile systems close by. And if one learned an important lesson from WW2: sheer mass will overcome less but higher quality numbers. Sowiets
The Warsaw Pact only had a slight numerical edge over the NATO nations. The attacker would have needed a minimum 3 to 1, and preferably a 9 to 1 advantage to achieve a decisive victory. All NATO had to do was to build enough tanks, warplanes, and have enough trained troops that it was unlikely that the Soviet Union could win.
Western nations had a greater economy, and only had to dedicate a much smaller portion of their economy to defense. The Soviet Union committed a much higher percentage of a smaller economy to warfare; thus reducing the growth of their economy. This is a major reason the Communists lost.
NATO and the Warsaw Pact were basically evenly matched, however, to win the Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact had to be able to achieve significant superiority, and they were just not capable of doing that.
The people of Europe, and the world are lucky that neither side initiated a war.
@@paladinsix9285 The people of Europe, and the world, are being introduced to their new slavery now. It was lucky for the NATO fascists that the war never went hot.
Немцы за СССР, за социализм это наивысший уровень советского Союза!
Old memorie
Шедеврально!
nice footage
Just a question - did the tank troops of the NVA use the "Panzerleid"? So many countries did....
Perfect
Маузер, а можно ли сделать клип про РЭБ? Тема интересная, а годных клипов на просторах интернета немае
So this is how it would have looked if the cold war went into a full on scale war huh
No, it isn't. They left out the glory-snatching NATO tactical and theatre nuke part. Eastern Bloc censors, you know.
YOU ARE THE KING!!!
Gutes Video👍
The NVA is a historically well trained and equipped armed force of a German territorial state. East Germany didn't have much of the heavy industry and military technology needed to produce heavy military weapons, but they always produced the best light weapons. Most of their military equipment is provided by the Soviet Union and they do not cost much to equip. They attach great importance to training and training officers and non-commissioned officers - soldiers in the best way, surpassing the Soviet Red Army in the Warsaw Pact.
There is a contrast with West Germany in the past, and Germany in the present. East Germany economically - if compared with "Western Standards", they are not equal to West Germany, but compared to military and defense forces, NATO considers them a dangerous adversary. The East German Armed Forces - NVA are still better trained than the current Bundeswehr. The Bundeswehr has faced difficulties in recent years because the federal defense budget cuts, weapons and equipment of the Bundeswehr are degraded and not suitable for modern warfare. Perhaps, German soldiers should blame and condemn German politicians for "eating away" of many things from them, from military supplies to infantry ammunition. Germany's military industry may be the most developed in the world, but German military contractors only know how to produce modern weapons such as Leopard 2A8 Tank, EF2000 aircraft, but most of them are sold to foreign countries. to make a profit, but no politician lobbied parliament to spend money to buy them for the Bundeswehr.
Modern Germany has no national idea and interests, because Germany is still in the occupation of America and England
Larp
@@SenexNovem Bullshit. Germany is getting weaker because of the influence of liberals and 'greens'. Coalition governments are useless. Also, the British Army of the Rhine is history, catch up. Come to think if it, the British military has been cut to point seriously undermining effectiveness, again the influence of liberals and socialists.
@@thepub245 So these green liberals were raised by the coalition. Moreover, the actions of this liberda radicalize right-wing sentiments in society
The redfacist so called "NVA" of the redfacist prison camp namend "GDR" of the USSR in Germany had the German war-slaves under the command of the communists in Moscow.
Спасибо
Kind of crazy to think all this would be gone in about 5-ish years and simultaneously regarded as obsolete (whether you think so or not).
If you are talking about tanks in general, armor will never become obsolete. They will become unmanned fighting machines in the future. If you are talking about T72 tank itself, then again NO. T72 is still very effective tank and in middle east they are even using t54/55. Modified and upgraded T72 can fight shot and shot against modern tanks.
When the Östlich brüder is more Preußen than its Bayerisch Western brüder.
This should be the intro for the game Gunner HEAT PC
These are some very high quality footages. When were they taken ? What camera was used ?
It's a movie.
EAST GERMANY POWER! PLEASE COME BACK!
My father was an officer in the West German army intelligence section from the mid 80s until 1992, after the wall came down and the Bundeswehr began to shrink. He told me that immediately prior to the fall of the East German government and it was confirmed after once the NVAs material was tested and its personnel interviewed that, and I quote- "We assumed 40% of the NVA would fight initially until they had an opportunity to surrender, especially if they observed the qualities of the west. 20% would either refuse orders and not fight at all- the remaining 40% we took very seriously"
they probably asked them what they would do if they attacked west germany. Most NVA personell were told they would defend, not attack.
@@slashmerc2764 my dad told me that if they were attacking he would have disobeyed orders but if the west would have attacked his entire company would have been fighting to the last.
Good Clip 👍
Way better than West Germany's Fragile Technology
''Fragile'' lmfao