World Cup: Zhang Jike-Ma Long

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    Men´s World Cup,24 Oct 2014 - 26 Oct 2014, Düsseldorf, GER. Men's Singles Final.
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  • @PingGSY
    @PingGSY 9 ปีที่แล้ว +440

    Zhang Jike truly loves the sport.A lot of people are referring to this act as "bad sportsmanship", however in my opinion "bad sportsmanship" only really applies if it is directed at the opponent. In this case it is very personal. Since winning the World Championships for the second time in 2013, Zhang Jike has struggled. He became de-motivated, which is completely understandable as he has achieved more than anyone in Chinese table tennis and got to the point where he felt there wasn't more to achieve. But, he was reminded by his coach that a second grand slam is an un-presidented achievement, and is something that Zhang is in the position to achieve. I believe this celebration is a release/statement to all the critics who said that Zhang Jike was done. He showed in this world cup that he is still capable of beating the best and that his mentl strength in big tournaments in un-rivaled. This was a great win for ZJK, and although the celebration is over the top, it is also completely understandable. He has the heart of a champion, he shows passion towards the game. Well played Tibetan Mastiff.

    • @zbazz8
      @zbazz8 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well said!
      I personally like his style and passion. It would be truly sad that if he won't be given a chance to play the next Olympics, which I believe he will achieve a dual grand-slam.

    • @PingGSY
      @PingGSY 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      zbazz8 Im sure Liu Guoliang wouldn't do that, he knows how much a second grand slam would mean to ZJK :)

    • @scottlo211
      @scottlo211 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +PingGSY I applaud his celebration. I felt a release from him because Ma Long has always been in his way as far as ranks for the longest & the chance of playing him for the World CUp besides Wang Hao was a true test for him. But unmotivated or not, it doesn't faze Ma Long because he swept Zhang twice when Zhang played 100%. You see now they always go down to the wire. Congrats to both. They played some god-like table tennis.

    • @fingerboard03
      @fingerboard03 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +PingGSY Well said!!

    • @cheyennemorgan6146
      @cheyennemorgan6146 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      un-presidented wtf? Trump's a ZJK fanboy?? lmao

  • @badkss
    @badkss ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I remember both of these players came to NZ for the world junior circuit back in 2003. I was always amazed at how well they played back then, but I would've never have guessed that they would turn out to be 2 of the best players in the world

  • @val7957
    @val7957 6 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Zhang Jike 1, barrier 0.

    • @davesplatz
      @davesplatz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Zhang Jike 2, barrier -2 ;)

  • @FrankGixx99Motovlog
    @FrankGixx99Motovlog 9 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I know what Zhang Jike felt here.. He just want to prove everybody that what they think were wrong! ZJK want to emphasized that "I'm still the best and no one can stop me". Still ZJK is my fav player.:)

  • @Young3Buck
    @Young3Buck 9 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Zhang Jike, forever.

  • @lonhro84
    @lonhro84 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I haven't a post-win celebration like that before. Quite extraordinary... but he is an extraordinary player!

  • @ZingyDNA
    @ZingyDNA 9 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Your video seems to have better quality than ITTF. How do you do that? :P

    • @type991
      @type991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      by default?

  • @Sliceofpow
    @Sliceofpow 9 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As I thought, Zhang proves his haters wrong again by performing for a major singles tournament time and time again. He has his peaks and valleys and right now he is the former.

  • @harryduong99
    @harryduong99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Zhang jike 's style. I love it.

    • @junior81291
      @junior81291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's the best of all time

    • @kweku144
      @kweku144 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Me too; but what do you love about it?

    • @harryduong99
      @harryduong99 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kweku144 confident and bold

    • @kweku144
      @kweku144 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think Zhang s style is like judo. He is not blasting through like the other greats, like Tae Kwon do. Partly, he uses the opponent's strengths against them. And is very efficient.

  • @petrusincraian198
    @petrusincraian198 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This two are Gods of TT. Unbelievable fast and precise. Both are Excellent , Amazing and Inspiring... Thanks for video.

  • @user-od3vc6el1b
    @user-od3vc6el1b 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    色んな意味で伝説の試合だった

  • @user-dw3pi6pt3g
    @user-dw3pi6pt3g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zhang Jike the Best👍💯👍💯👍💯👍💯 🏓🏓🏓💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥

  • @user-ch2cc6uk8y
    @user-ch2cc6uk8y 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    これ見たかったやつ〜
    復活してる

  • @skipadaflippa686
    @skipadaflippa686 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am so happy for him

  • @flosnd
    @flosnd 9 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The whole day Zhang had the crowd kind of against him, for sure when he played Timo, which was to be expected, since Timo was playing at home, but it struck me to see that in the final the crowd was cheering Ma Long the whole time, even the Chinese group of spectators. It must have felt to him like a huge relief to win, certainly accentuated by the fact that he did it against the odds and despite the fact that almost no one wanted him to win.
    None the less, it was very bizarre to see him act that way, I could not believe my eyes when I saw him kick the fence, and even more so when he did it the second time, in front of the Chinese stand. Not a nice example for the kids in the hall.
    But after the first shock everybody cheerd for his win and he was graceful in admitting his mistake.
    Maybe table tennis will get some publicity like this... bad publicity is also publicity?

  • @sctm81
    @sctm81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a game. Amazing exchanges and down to the wire.

  • @sctm81
    @sctm81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the kinda spectacle you get when two legends meet.

  • @eduardolodato8932
    @eduardolodato8932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ts Posible he was the most natural talent table tennis player, yours matchs with Ma Long are legendarys and It will be remembered as the best in the history of this sport

  • @user-wr7bn8fy5p
    @user-wr7bn8fy5p 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ジーカ好き!

  • @user-xi2mh2zd2k
    @user-xi2mh2zd2k 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    장지커 최고!

  • @NguyenPham-yy3iw
    @NguyenPham-yy3iw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Currently, there is no one who can hit ping pong like Zhang-jike, each of his balls seems to want to claim his opponent's life. Even now, FanZD can't do this kind of ball anymore

  • @alpertunga3505
    @alpertunga3505 8 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Nobod could feel the tension of him at that moment. It's pretty normal what Zhang Jıke has done and harmless to anyone. I admire his playing style. He is the Golden boy of TT for next 15 years.

    • @reneesun4779
      @reneesun4779 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alper Tunga He harmed Ma Long. That's for sure

    • @ongnarukami4451
      @ongnarukami4451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not even 3 years and he is gone

    • @ykse0214
      @ykse0214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ongnarukami4451 lol that's fukin true

    • @user-jq2dn1sn6n
      @user-jq2dn1sn6n 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      개같이 멸망

  • @user-fs6fx7hr5j
    @user-fs6fx7hr5j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    この2人のギリギリの戦いって感じがすき

  • @gdounito
    @gdounito 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    6:02 just hilarious. that topsping was so full of hate!

  • @Kat-zj5kd
    @Kat-zj5kd ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah done it.. we win.... Zhang jike fan here

  • @user-yz7pe3zh7d
    @user-yz7pe3zh7d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watched this 10 times.

  • @AshPhoenix
    @AshPhoenix 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    After watching 2017 WTTC final. He definitely improved a lot!

    • @mindrover777
      @mindrover777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What?

    • @jasmeendhindsa7788
      @jasmeendhindsa7788 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@mindrover777 He is talking about Ma Long

    • @kenji2787
      @kenji2787 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ZJK has improved a lot too. He played not as good in 2017!

  • @xuanwei8283
    @xuanwei8283 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the fence kicking!

  • @akspower3042
    @akspower3042 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    6:06 that made me laugh

  • @peperruti
    @peperruti 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That kicking was hilarious. After Timo Boll Zhang Jike is the player i can relate my style the most.

  • @yunanhelmia
    @yunanhelmia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Legend: Zhang Jike

  • @Ulongliao
    @Ulongliao 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Zhang Jike very powerful

  • @geligapictures
    @geligapictures 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    4:34 how is that possible???

  • @op9764
    @op9764 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ma Long won it again in 2024❤
    10 years passed, he still won the championship

    • @hawnt2r
      @hawnt2r วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ma Long lost it here

  • @hitgodmb8659
    @hitgodmb8659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was like watching Nadal-Federer. Zhang Jike just going for the backhand and backhand and backhand until Ma Long is far enough then goes down the line.

  • @nathanstyles275
    @nathanstyles275 9 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    s a result of kicking the advertisement board Zhang Jike has recieved no prize money for winning the tournament

    • @wangyiran66
      @wangyiran66 9 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      the two advertiser would pay him more than that LOL

    • @gab5012
      @gab5012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not that it matters

  • @weizenobstmusli8232
    @weizenobstmusli8232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chinese vs Chinese tt is very fun to watch. This match looked like a training match sometimes. Both played great. I feel that Ma is getting more and more "touch" with time. He didn't went into beast mode, what he sometimes does when he faces a strong opponent.

  • @4581103992010
    @4581103992010 8 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    You can tell he's not a fan of pingpong fence lol

  • @Julia-eg1gt
    @Julia-eg1gt ปีที่แล้ว

    멋진 선수들의 멋진 경기!

  • @ifishcatfish
    @ifishcatfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the greatest ever

  • @badcompany2984
    @badcompany2984 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    clever from Zhang Jike allways playing to the backside of Ma Long.

  • @user-xf3gs8lm8w
    @user-xf3gs8lm8w 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol I love when he kicked the barricades and threw his shirt. It was a little random but, show some character, live your life, be happy!

  • @Eric-xc9hk
    @Eric-xc9hk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    太強了

  • @nishantupadhyay01
    @nishantupadhyay01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    08:27 - and both lived happily together😂😂

  • @diclogic
    @diclogic 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good. Now I know which one is my favorite. Zjk's behavior just made it easier for me

    • @gab5012
      @gab5012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes this makes ZJK my FAV, most badass player of all time LOLOLOL (I know this post is 6 years old but still:P)

  • @warllin1855
    @warllin1855 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zhang Jike is very powerful

  • @jojo-wi6rw
    @jojo-wi6rw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Zhang Jike vs Ma Long always were my favourite matches in table tennis. Kinda sad ZJK isnt one of the Top 100 players anymore :/

  • @MasterNeoRNCP
    @MasterNeoRNCP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Outstanding match. Sadly the last great victory of Zhang Jike. After that he slowly deteriorated(faster than any other player. Just like Stephen Hendry in Snooker. For me they are like O Sulliven Vs Hendry) and became nobody. As a player I really liked Zhang Jikes style. His backhand dominated close quarter play. But every good thing has to end.

  • @tomlone1140
    @tomlone1140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    zhang jike in his best form.

  • @aszd14
    @aszd14 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma long- the choke artist

  • @user-zp7fd7li7s
    @user-zp7fd7li7s 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    실점을 하더래도 그냥 먹는경우가 없네...눈이 호강한다 보는거 자체로도

  • @gerardtran84
    @gerardtran84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone still watching in 2020?

  • @januszjablonowski7297
    @januszjablonowski7297 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:38 TWO ONE!!

  • @johnadamgutierrezmerloadam7014
    @johnadamgutierrezmerloadam7014 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good is zangh jike.

  • @gianmanas1570
    @gianmanas1570 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First second of the match I was looking at the barriers lol haha

  • @lesterandrewjonson
    @lesterandrewjonson 9 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    stop kicking - hahaha

    • @tomlone1140
      @tomlone1140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lester Jonson he loves soccer bro. I believe his name Jike comes from a famous soccer player.

    • @ToanNguyen-zy5xt
      @ToanNguyen-zy5xt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha cc

    • @furkankagandaldaban9721
      @furkankagandaldaban9721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tomlone1140 Arthur Zico. A.K.A "White Pele"

  • @christianadriananiceta2753
    @christianadriananiceta2753 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    so cool and graceful :)
    would love to follow his game...
    though I'm a cpen player haha

  • @mathisgoossens3726
    @mathisgoossens3726 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi how's it going? Remarkable! store beam What do you think, guys... !!!

  • @CrayCow
    @CrayCow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like advertisers would want him to kick those fences as it brings more attention them.

  • @riley1160
    @riley1160 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why Zhang D: first when you were young, you got kicked out of the team cause of your aggressive behaviour. Then you came back and became more calm and won all 3 major titles, then you died down from the scene for a while in 2013 after your win at paris, you became more calm and less arrogant, WISE! Now your back to this.... Why you gotta hurt your fans ;(

    • @christianadriananiceta2753
      @christianadriananiceta2753 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      can't he be allowed to be happy for just a short moment? with all those efforts he gave?

  • @darkflamemaster7274
    @darkflamemaster7274 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stop kicking ! Nice plusing.

  • @user-qp9in1po6f
    @user-qp9in1po6f 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    6:21 チキータ封じでサイド切るサーブ出したと思うんだけど、あの速さで返されたら流石に萎えるな笑

  • @AdamOlaso
    @AdamOlaso 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i think it's his way of protesting against the corporate giants...he's probably saying "You don't own me! I may have receive the prize money you guys sponsored but still..."

  • @formationgeek
    @formationgeek 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    ZJK reputation and achievements parallels much like Lin Dan in badminton. Known as cocky and arrogant but when it comes to major events, he wins and wins em all. Ma Long is no doubt, one of the most talented player ever but like Lee Chong Wei, always comes up short when it counts the most.

    • @gianmanas1570
      @gianmanas1570 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said

    • @lonhro84
      @lonhro84 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spot on

    • @punpompur
      @punpompur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ma long has come a long way now

    • @fionajack5006
      @fionajack5006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now the greatest og of all time. Ma long

    • @magisterialanubis06
      @magisterialanubis06 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aged horribly

  • @chaukaihang
    @chaukaihang 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ma Long looks like he is going to cry

  • @junior81291
    @junior81291 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jike is the best

  • @DimaKats2
    @DimaKats2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best thing of this video is at 07:45 where those two guys saw ZJK and were like, wtf is this guy doing and didn't give a shit about his reaction 🤣

  • @user-zv5yo9vt5t
    @user-zv5yo9vt5t 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    missing 2014 jhang ji ke

  • @tabletennis-tv
    @tabletennis-tv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    big match !!!!

  • @gdounito
    @gdounito 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    its funny people who thought zhang jike won everything because ma long was not in the final and now are disappeared from commenting. the question was never ZJK or ML but zjk or wang hao. wang hao totally outplayed ma long 3 times . in terms of complete technique, bh fh rally, serve and serve receive, zhang jike and wang hao are the best they have ever played the game. kudos to both

    • @meandonlymeandher5747
      @meandonlymeandher5747 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +George D. ma long won wang hao too ;) , ma long #1

    • @gdounito
      @gdounito 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Meandonlyme Andher when?in the china open?when it doesnt matter at all?

    • @meandonlymeandher5747
      @meandonlymeandher5747 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      George D. man try not to try ;)

    • @gdounito
      @gdounito 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meandonlyme Andher whatever makes you happy "plato".

    • @meandonlymeandher5747
      @meandonlymeandher5747 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      George D. plato made you ;)

  • @geligapictures
    @geligapictures 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    are they using regular ball or 40+ ball now???

  • @watsonzou3059
    @watsonzou3059 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zhang Jike was super silly!!Ha,ha,ha!

  • @choco649
    @choco649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    인성합격👏

  • @praditaardiansyah3435
    @praditaardiansyah3435 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jike sangat bersemangat untuk mengalahkan Ma Long dan itu terjadi.

  • @SteveSoper1979
    @SteveSoper1979 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Shame such a good match is being overshadowed by the win celebration. Anyways, back to the actual game. You could really see in the backhand to backhand exchanges, Ma Long was losing a lot of those to ZJK who has the stronger attack there. Would have liked to see Ma gamble and step around a few more of those for the forehand. Great, close game.

  • @ShamanMap
    @ShamanMap 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    it's normal in this situation. the player at the end should explose the stress. :)
    i respect his choice, because this is his style. for some anti-zhang, it wont hurt anyone by kicking the barrier. but please use the correct word to judge the player.

    • @andresrossi9
      @andresrossi9 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ShamanMap I just say ma long doesn't need to kick anything 😎

  • @franciscorodriguez5316
    @franciscorodriguez5316 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    for me.... zang jike is the best player

  • @gangulisomeshchandra
    @gangulisomeshchandra 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    best backhand vs best forehand

  • @user-zw5lt4nd6h
    @user-zw5lt4nd6h 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    任何批判张继科踢挡板的人都不知道张继科所处的环境,一个被退回省队多次的人想要向刘指导证明自己的能力,而且偏偏还有龙队这个天生克制他打法的人的存在, 能赢龙队真的太辛苦,这场比赛也是他开启大满贯的转折

    • @petercao7847
      @petercao7847 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      这是14年世界杯。张继科已经大满贯了。在这之后,张继科再也没有拿过大赛的单打冠军。相反,马龙则连续获得15,17世锦赛和16年奥运会的单打冠军。

    • @StevenMokchising
      @StevenMokchising 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      我本人幾喜歡張繼科,這場就算贏了,但不代表可以踢擋板,這種行為對於一個專業運動員既形象來講其實都好重要,張繼科之前在隊內發生什麼事也好,都在隊內部既事而並非可以在國際賽舞檯上可以容許做出這行為,如國際賽上比觀眾同評判或網上觀眾看到唔會太好!
      因為形象問題。

  • @arghyakusumtalapatra
    @arghyakusumtalapatra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a great match. Ma and Zang both of them given their all in this match. Respect to both of them. But somehow in the end the outcome of the celebration was in odd fashion. Kicking is hugely respected in the match of soccer or football games. But in this institution, kicking is not really in the syllabus of respect. The ground, the board, the fence, the ball, the racket.. everything is respectful. Every player should respect this institution. No player is greater than the game. First you love the game, restpect the game..then player comes next.

  • @Philoreason
    @Philoreason 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is Zhang's ball toss legal someone please tell me...

  • @alfredlaw550
    @alfredlaw550 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    crazy

  • @Eric-xc9hk
    @Eric-xc9hk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    經典,真好看

  • @itszaen
    @itszaen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:38 Who said "ha!", Malong or referee?lol

  • @TheKarub1
    @TheKarub1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    The g.o.a.t.

  • @ishanjain4038
    @ishanjain4038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still curious who got the tshirt.

  • @trist4n429
    @trist4n429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Stop kikking" 😂😂😂

  • @ashecalamity3229
    @ashecalamity3229 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zhang jikes 45k USD was dispelled in this days by ITTF

  • @jikezhang6899
    @jikezhang6899 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zhang jike is the best

  • @user-bt6ig4jk1h
    @user-bt6ig4jk1h 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Именно после этого я зауважал Zhang Jike кмц не насрать на пинг-понг!

  • @whitenightaurora2685
    @whitenightaurora2685 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    마롱은 이때 전성기다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

  • @kejaritomeneticuantepe
    @kejaritomeneticuantepe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chile!!!!!!!!!

  • @ogonmrr1045
    @ogonmrr1045 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    he is so excited because he never beat Ma Long before

  • @lahancodon
    @lahancodon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:13 ZJK looked quite disappointed, like he wanted ML to win.

  • @anaconda_tennis
    @anaconda_tennis 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stop Kicking!
    LOL =)))

  • @Independent_Man3
    @Independent_Man3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wtf was that celebration? Did he get fined?

  • @proudindian2186
    @proudindian2186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone noticed fight for tshirt

  • @maultasche668
    @maultasche668 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    zhang can't get adult:D he was seen ( and punished) in a casino were he wasted lots of money. But he didn't learn something, now he destroyed baricades.
    He has surely much pressure if he needs to act like this. Sad, that he is a great player!

  • @ngockhoanguyen272
    @ngockhoanguyen272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    08:25 there is another Zhang Jike - Ma Long fight on the bleachers

  • @christianwhite9583
    @christianwhite9583 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like Jike was more about making a statement " I'm still the best" then worry about losing prize money. Never the less, he is good talent, but no need for this type of behaviour. Fans along with Sponsors are the reason why he has made a name for himself, other wise players like Waldner and the greats before you will still playing at the local club for little trophies and a gift card. Pay some respect!