i tend to run the bass through a gate, then into guitar rig where i split the signal. one of them has a heavy scoop on the EQ and is then compressed and DI'd. the other is just the mid frequencies i cut from the other going through a distortion unit on full, a fairly "metal" head, and a 4x12 cab. mix them in guitar rig until i like it, then logic's built in EQ to even out any unwanted frequencies and roll off below 100Hz (i generally like the kick to be lower than the bass guitar and i find it adds more clarity with the heavy distortion), and finally compress it with a very slow attack, a quick release, a fairly high ratio, and the threshold set wherever it needs to be to make the sound more consistent the distorted midrange really allows the bass to almost fuse with the guitars and make a huge wall where the clean low end and high end give it the deep bottom and click-y top i love in a metal tone. it's like korn meets muse
Studio one's Splitter function is amazing for bass. Similar to patchwork or metaplugin where you can run parallel chains from a single channel. I've tried the Sub/Upper Bass/Attack separation method, but my favorite to get solid bottom end from a sloppy performance is to keep one track really pretty dry, low pass it at about 300hz, and hi-pass at about 100hz. Apply some LA-2A or something nice and gentle, and then a bunch of saturation to even out/distort the filtered signal, then use a sub-octave generator like bx_sub/aphex big bottom/Rbass, etc to get a really LOW bass sound without dealing with the problems that frequently pop up in the sub lows with cheap instruments or bad playing. I find it much easier to control the energy in the upper bass (90-200ish) and generate a low octave from that, rather than trying to use a multiband compressor to control the low end.. maybe its the way the crossovers work in a multiband, but it always think it sounds better to take my Frankenstein ultra low-end track and blend it in with a distorted (mostly) full range track. Then compress the hell out of the whole thing.
Probably my favorite current producer/engineer on the planet. If I could have anyone mix my EP or album, it would without a doubt be Nolly. Super cool to get some insight into how he mixes for the rest of us.
Really funny just recently I decided to try the Fabfilter Saturn on my bass guitar plugin chain randomly trying to get a more overdriven tone, it just seemed like it worked really well, cool to see that it's being used by someone like Nolly, although I wasn't aware of the plugins ability to be multi band, so that's helped me out alot with dialing in the right sound. Thank you :)
That's generally a good thing, so there is more room for the kick. You only want to get a little sub bass back as he showed right at the end of the video.
Sweet tips! Am I right in saying that this is just for creating the bass tone,would further processing then have to be done to mix it? Or is this pretty much "mix ready"?
I would think after making the basic tone you then add the bass track into the mix balancing volume and further eq’ing. Making sure this doesn’t clash with the kick or guitars Adding a side chain with the kick is my favorite secret sauce
ive been looking for a plugin like that fab filter one for a while. always have been a fan of doing specific processing on bass to certain areas of the frequency range without having to split off into a bunch of tracks.
Love Nolly but don't understand why he'd cut the sub low just to add it back in artificially via Waves R-Bass. I'm sure he has a reason, but that move just confused me. Someone help me understand?
I need help! I feel like I’m either having to cut too many lows of the bass or too much. As soon as I get to b and below it seems like a lot less low end is necessary.
Guys a question. What was Nollys first band? . It was an English band, I remember I have seen a video of them playing in a rehearsal place and it sounded awesome. It was different from Periphery, more on the hard core side of things. I can't remember their name so unfortunately I can't find the band. It was possible something with a word red or at least an r in their name if that helps 😂😂🙏
I couldn't believe when I heard Nolly say he likes the Redwirez SVT mic'ed up with the MD421. Without prior knowledge or EVER seeing this video before, I am also using the Redwirez "SVT810-421-CapEdge-5in.wav" in nearly all of my compositions.
the thing with live is that the PA and room are always too crap to be able to really hear any nuance. So a distorted bass is just a distorted bass, no matter which boutique distortion you use. Anything will work as long as it sounds a bit passable and it will do the trick. Live, no-one cares except you as a musician… No-one else will hear it.
Some people I know load the sounds into Kemper Profilers and use those instead of regular amp-heads. But santibanks is right. The subtleties are usually gone in a live room.
So sick ! I've acually bought this nail the mix session and I still think the Bass Amp track is far superior. I wish he could re create it on camera for all of us 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Experience, you can Boost with a narrow bell, if you find a “whistle” that doesn’t change in pitch a lot it’s probably that, however if you boost too much every frequency will be annoying that’s where experience comes into play to know which ones you should cut
Awesome video! Will this whole masterclass be available to subscribers for the foreseeable future? Cannie afford it at the moment but hopefully by the end of the year.
Does anybody know any plugins that are either free or logic stock that can have the same functionality as the fabfilter saturn? I really prefer to not split the bass tone for distortion onto another track.
Anyone have a similar patch for axe fx 3? I'm trying to make one,..don't have the saturn plugin, but I feel like the ax fx 3 has the guts to get this sound...just have to have 2 tracks......there's no 8 x 10 svt cab ir built in to the axe fx3....I might have to throw down for that...but would rather not if I don't have to!!...
not related to the bass tone, but that bus compressor (any will do the trick, actually, just aim for around 8-10dbGR with fast attack & fastest possible release) on the drum room track is hell of a trick.
Not sure if it's my headphones or my hearing is just very very bad, cause' I can't tell a difference between those bass settings in the beginning of video.
Don't forget you're listening to audio that was encoded for a video file, and then re-encoded by TH-cam. There's a lot of data loss and the sound you're hearing is far from what Nolly's hearing as he's mixing this.
No idea what that guy is on about. This is Logic, and he used FabFilter Saturn for the tone. He wrong even in guitar terms because periphery use axeFX, not bias lol.
Elliott Stanley no they use to use axe fx and now they use bias fx if you would take the time tp research. misha mamsoor has his own youtube channel where he says they use bias fx so does mark holocomb so your wrong lol
leon kennedy im a huge periphery fan, those old videos are promotional and they only said they use it to warm up. They used axe fx on P3. They're using it on tour right now. Misha just got a signature amp too. Nowhere is Nolly using bias here.
It's the best for every kind of person who wants to record. Dosen't matter wether you're a beginner or professional musician. It's just 200 bucks and for that, it's amazing. But only available on Mac OS as far as I know. If you haven't got 200 bucks, try Reaper. It's trial version is basically never ending and you can do alot of cool stuff with it. But the stock plug ins aren't that good, so you'd need to find some good plug ins. (The plug ins that Nolly uses in this video are pretty high end and tend to get very expensive)
If you have a mac, start with garageband and work your way up. Recording is super overwhelming at first, you want something simple so you can learn as you go while still putting most of your energy into creating music. Logic is more or less the same layout as Garageband, just with much more features. I think that's the best way to approach anything audio related, use what you have/a minimal set up and only upgrade/buy new gear when you need it to take that next step. People get way too focused on XYZ piece of gear and what's "best." If you don't know you're doing, it won't matter if you have Logic, Pro tools, etc. Master what you have, then move on. Logic is awesome though, it's a steal for 200.
Logic is the best, if you own an Apple Computer. It’s one of the cheapest daws, and it has all the features. I use Cubase, because imo it has the best MIDI drum editor (even Nolly thinks so)... and I don’t have a Mac. So look around and see which DAW suits you best! Logic and Cubase are both awesome.
Yeah I now got the B7K ultra into a solidstate head with a tube pre, which gives a beast of a sound. Now looking into maybe upgrading the pickups (2x MM style). You think that would even be worthwile after putting the signal through all these pre amps and if so, found anything that comes kinda close to dingwall?
@@DavidWoodMusic i can bet you my left nut that if you gave Nolly the $150 bass and he gave you the dingwall he'd still get a 10x better tone. Gear does matter, but not nearly as much as skill
@@DavidWoodMusic alr then, once you get a dingwall please shoot me a recording and we'll see if you can nail Nolly's tone just by paying money, I'm waiting :)
What's your best trick for mixing bass guitar??
Eating ass daily
i tend to run the bass through a gate, then into guitar rig where i split the signal. one of them has a heavy scoop on the EQ and is then compressed and DI'd. the other is just the mid frequencies i cut from the other going through a distortion unit on full, a fairly "metal" head, and a 4x12 cab. mix them in guitar rig until i like it, then logic's built in EQ to even out any unwanted frequencies and roll off below 100Hz (i generally like the kick to be lower than the bass guitar and i find it adds more clarity with the heavy distortion), and finally compress it with a very slow attack, a quick release, a fairly high ratio, and the threshold set wherever it needs to be to make the sound more consistent
the distorted midrange really allows the bass to almost fuse with the guitars and make a huge wall where the clean low end and high end give it the deep bottom and click-y top i love in a metal tone. it's like korn meets muse
Copying Nolly.
Studio one's Splitter function is amazing for bass. Similar to patchwork or metaplugin where you can run parallel chains from a single channel. I've tried the Sub/Upper Bass/Attack separation method, but my favorite to get solid bottom end from a sloppy performance is to keep one track really pretty dry, low pass it at about 300hz, and hi-pass at about 100hz. Apply some LA-2A or something nice and gentle, and then a bunch of saturation to even out/distort the filtered signal, then use a sub-octave generator like bx_sub/aphex big bottom/Rbass, etc to get a really LOW bass sound without dealing with the problems that frequently pop up in the sub lows with cheap instruments or bad playing. I find it much easier to control the energy in the upper bass (90-200ish) and generate a low octave from that, rather than trying to use a multiband compressor to control the low end.. maybe its the way the crossovers work in a multiband, but it always think it sounds better to take my Frankenstein ultra low-end track and blend it in with a distorted (mostly) full range track. Then compress the hell out of the whole thing.
I aggressively boost 4kHz going in.
Yes, I'm ready for everyone to bite my head off.
So that's pretty cool.
At 9:12 Nolly made the first 3 notes of the Doctor Who theme with just EQ moves.
lmao.
Nolly is bass king
sponce
That's a matter of opinion :p
One of many bass kings
I'd say he's bass prince to Jon Stockman
Tour with Periphery again. Please. I missed you.
agree
Probably my favorite current producer/engineer on the planet. If I could have anyone mix my EP or album, it would without a doubt be Nolly. Super cool to get some insight into how he mixes for the rest of us.
6:03 "even when it sounds nasty and disgusting it sounds amazing"
*8-bit noise*
"not that though"
hahahaha I laughed so hard xD
Really funny just recently I decided to try the Fabfilter Saturn on my bass guitar plugin chain randomly trying to get a more overdriven tone, it just seemed like it worked really well, cool to see that it's being used by someone like Nolly, although I wasn't aware of the plugins ability to be multi band, so that's helped me out alot with dialing in the right sound. Thank you :)
This is insane what the hell dude is literally doing adjustments on things i cant even hear yet it just sounds amazing
There needs to be a distortion pedal that will only distort the selected freq. THAT would sell like hotcakes.
Russ Wilson it’s called the Darkglass Microtubes X and X7
Source Audio Aftershock does that too with some tweaking through USB.
Microtubes X
And now you also got the Parallex plug-in.
Even the B7K has an option to cut the distortion on the low end
I love Nolly's sweater. It's adorable.
That sounded fricking massive 'so thats pretty cool' XD
Aha Nolly doesn't like Misha's place for recording ;)
he kept complaining about the acoustics haha
3:17 yeah nolly we know you're a god
This was awesome! His techniques are great, and this turned me on to the FabFilter Saturn! Stoked on it. Thanks!
that was awesomee dude, thanks for sharing!
I love hearing Nolly talk
6 years late, but this is actually logic pro, not cubase haha :) Great video guys and I just love Nolly
That cab IR causes that drop off in the low end. I ran through this on my end and discovered the same. Everything came back when I bypassed the IR
That's generally a good thing, so there is more room for the kick. You only want to get a little sub bass back as he showed right at the end of the video.
Nolly's shirt looks dope tho... so does the bass sound..damn
nicklas1206 I thought the shirt looked pretty gay.
Fab Filter Total Plug in bundle is 1k. Fuuuuck :( So expensive. But so amazing .
Take a shot every time he say "cool"
People will die
Raymond Cortez cool
I’m back again for like the thousandth time
Same here
Sweet tips! Am I right in saying that this is just for creating the bass tone,would further processing then have to be done to mix it? Or is this pretty much "mix ready"?
I would think after making the basic tone you then add the bass track into the mix balancing volume and further eq’ing.
Making sure this doesn’t clash with the kick or guitars
Adding a side chain with the kick is my favorite secret sauce
"Bass Amp NTM WINGING IT" lol'd. Nolly, you're the man
Thanks for sharing this!
ive been looking for a plugin like that fab filter one for a while. always have been a fan of doing specific processing on bass to certain areas of the frequency range without having to split off into a bunch of tracks.
That was great! Thanks!
After the cab sim, are those three pedals all eqs?
Love Nolly but don't understand why he'd cut the sub low just to add it back in artificially via Waves R-Bass.
I'm sure he has a reason, but that move just confused me. Someone help me understand?
9:20 Eq the ring freq like a boss ...
I need help! I feel like I’m either having to cut too many lows of the bass or too much. As soon as I get to b and below it seems like a lot less low end is necessary.
Thanks a ton Nolly!
My fav bass tone ever.
Amazing tone...
What is the lift pedal?
WOW! THAT WAS HELPFUL!
Guys a question. What was Nollys first band? . It was an English band, I remember I have seen a video of them playing in a rehearsal place and it sounded awesome. It was different from Periphery, more on the hard core side of things. I can't remember their name so unfortunately I can't find the band. It was possible something with a word red or at least an r in their name if that helps 😂😂🙏
You were on the right track! It was Red Seas Fire.
Lmao so glad that im not the only one who like to slap those magical saturn on my bass xD
Which DI was this recorded with?
Do you have to get a full membership or it is possible to pay for a single lesson?
Nolly predicted trash doves.
I couldn't believe when I heard Nolly say he likes the Redwirez SVT mic'ed up with the MD421.
Without prior knowledge or EVER seeing this video before, I am also using the Redwirez "SVT810-421-CapEdge-5in.wav" in nearly all of my compositions.
nolly is brilliant, i miss him
hey Eyal. if i was to join now would i get access to past sessions or do you only get the nail the mix sessions when they come out?
nevermind. found the answer below in the comments
that Dingwall grind is really something. No wonder why djent kids and even renowned bass players are getting those.
0:15 Hey VSauce! Michael here!
super helpful. thank you!
nolly is the ceo of bass
how do bands recreate sounds done with plugins in the studio live?
the thing with live is that the PA and room are always too crap to be able to really hear any nuance. So a distorted bass is just a distorted bass, no matter which boutique distortion you use. Anything will work as long as it sounds a bit passable and it will do the trick. Live, no-one cares except you as a musician… No-one else will hear it.
Some people I know load the sounds into Kemper Profilers and use those instead of regular amp-heads. But santibanks is right. The subtleties are usually gone in a live room.
tone monster
Anyone know what headphone he is using?
RBass is fucking incredible.
Thanks Nolls
So sick ! I've acually bought this nail the mix session and I still think the Bass Amp track is far superior.
I wish he could re create it on camera for all of us 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Bro "smooth Amp" on Fabfilter Saturn is one of the best bass tones i've ever heard lmfao
Love me some Nolly 🤓
how do you make those tracks per group in logic?
so very informative...I just wish I had the plug ins to play with....but the saturn is looking very attractive...
720p!?
at 9:02 how did he find which frequencies the screaming notes are ?
Experience, you can Boost with a narrow bell, if you find a “whistle” that doesn’t change in pitch a lot it’s probably that, however if you boost too much every frequency will be annoying that’s where experience comes into play to know which ones you should cut
WOW he had a trash dove pullover before trash dove was cool
15:55
This is all pretty cool.
Does he play with a pick or his fingers
With a pick. Orange Dunlop tortex 0.60mm picks, specifically. Heard him say that in some rig rundown.
how is this di so punchy? any advice would be much appreciated
a decent Bass, DI box and player. I've seen Nolly using Radial J48s quite a while
Awesome video! Will this whole masterclass be available to subscribers for the foreseeable future? Cannie afford it at the moment but hopefully by the end of the year.
If you subscribe there's a link where you can purchase this one individually.
I've been subscribed for a little while now, but can't seem to find anything to purchase this one separately?
Look under "Previous Stems"
What Headphone is he using? Sennheiser HD ***?? Thanks! :D
HD 650?
Yep, wearing the same right now, amazing cans.
Is Nolly's Sweater PRS reference?
Does anybody know any plugins that are either free or logic stock that can have the same functionality as the fabfilter saturn? I really prefer to not split the bass tone for distortion onto another track.
Does anybody know what headphones is Nolly using here?
Andrés Ramirez maybe a sennheiser hd650
Oh man,yeah why not, just put an IR on it. Somehow I never considered that before, thank you!
Hey boys, the description says Cubase but it's Logic X
where can i get those IRs?
redwirez.com
Anyone have a similar patch for axe fx 3? I'm trying to make one,..don't have the saturn plugin, but I feel like the ax fx 3 has the guts to get this sound...just have to have 2 tracks......there's no 8 x 10 svt cab ir built in to the axe fx3....I might have to throw down for that...but would rather not if I don't have to!!...
not related to the bass tone, but that bus compressor (any will do the trick, actually, just aim for around 8-10dbGR with fast attack & fastest possible release) on the drum room track is hell of a trick.
Narrow in on that space in the mix. Darkglass
One does not simply: using a touch pad while mixing/dialing
Which song does that bass track go to? It's driving me crazy that I can't place it.
Michael Blatter it might be Motormouth
It's Prayer Position.
What daw is he using?
Brad Welton Logic Pro X
Not sure if it's my headphones or my hearing is just very very bad, cause' I can't tell a difference between those bass settings in the beginning of video.
Don't forget you're listening to audio that was encoded for a video file, and then re-encoded by TH-cam. There's a lot of data loss and the sound you're hearing is far from what Nolly's hearing as he's mixing this.
What is the program these guys are using?
Plague Gaming bias fx or axe-fx 2. but the bias fx is what they mainly use
No idea what that guy is on about. This is Logic, and he used FabFilter Saturn for the tone. He wrong even in guitar terms because periphery use axeFX, not bias lol.
Elliott Stanley no they use to use axe fx and now they use bias fx if you would take the time tp research. misha mamsoor has his own youtube channel where he says they use bias fx so does mark holocomb so your wrong lol
leon kennedy im a huge periphery fan, those old videos are promotional and they only said they use it to warm up. They used axe fx on P3. They're using it on tour right now. Misha just got a signature amp too. Nowhere is Nolly using bias here.
will I be able to view Nolly's full mixing session anytime if I join Nail the Mix? Really interested in joining.
Yes, if you subscribe there's a link where you can purchase the full session
Yes. We only sell our past episodes to subscribers at this point.
$24.99 and that includes all the multi-tracks, the full live stream, and the 90 minute QNA chat.
I like Nolly's Pajama top
Guys class! BUT please listen to the mix
say, i dont know much about that daw, but did he print the bass tone in stereo ? why ?
Logic defaults to print in stereo.
@@countingcontrol512 I see, thanks
A trve master at work
I need a dingwall .. bad
Is Logic a good DAW for beginners?
It's the best for every kind of person who wants to record. Dosen't matter wether you're a beginner or professional musician. It's just 200 bucks and for that, it's amazing. But only available on Mac OS as far as I know. If you haven't got 200 bucks, try Reaper. It's trial version is basically never ending and you can do alot of cool stuff with it. But the stock plug ins aren't that good, so you'd need to find some good plug ins. (The plug ins that Nolly uses in this video are pretty high end and tend to get very expensive)
There is no "best" DAW
If you have a mac, start with garageband and work your way up. Recording is super overwhelming at first, you want something simple so you can learn as you go while still putting most of your energy into creating music. Logic is more or less the same layout as Garageband, just with much more features.
I think that's the best way to approach anything audio related, use what you have/a minimal set up and only upgrade/buy new gear when you need it to take that next step. People get way too focused on XYZ piece of gear and what's "best." If you don't know you're doing, it won't matter if you have Logic, Pro tools, etc. Master what you have, then move on.
Logic is awesome though, it's a steal for 200.
Logic is the best, if you own an Apple Computer. It’s one of the cheapest daws, and it has all the features.
I use Cubase, because imo it has the best MIDI drum editor (even Nolly thinks so)... and I don’t have a Mac. So look around and see which DAW suits you best! Logic and Cubase are both awesome.
🔥🔥🔥
Anyone know what bass he used for these?
I'm pretty sure it's his signature bass by dingwall
Shubhankar Kulkarni cool, thanks.
It sounds pretty punchy and thick.
Don.t Forget the Fabfilter Pro Q2
Meanwhile my measly laptop probably couldn't even run two of these plugins at once.
Put a bird on it!
Hey vsauce Michael here!
That smoot amp distortion!
I need that. Anyone knows a pedal with that sound??
The B7K gets you pretty close. The problem is that its a Dingwall. They have a very unique sound, and I haven't found anything that can replicate it.
Yeah I now got the B7K ultra into a solidstate head with a tube pre, which gives a beast of a sound. Now looking into maybe upgrading the pickups (2x MM style). You think that would even be worthwile after putting the signal through all these pre amps and if so, found anything that comes kinda close to dingwall?
Massive!!!
All you need to get Nolly tone is a $1500 bass and another $1500 in plugins! Not surprising when it sounds that fat and clear. killer tone
That's why I laugh when people say gear doesn't matter.
A Dingwall with always sound better than a crappy $150 WalMart bass.
@@DavidWoodMusic i can bet you my left nut that if you gave Nolly the $150 bass and he gave you the dingwall he'd still get a 10x better tone. Gear does matter, but not nearly as much as skill
@@prckotrtic6253 nope
@@DavidWoodMusic alr then, once you get a dingwall please shoot me a recording and we'll see if you can nail Nolly's tone just by paying money, I'm waiting :)
funny how some "back in my day" folks complain about this
nolly is god