Where to Put an IAT / Intake Air Temp Sensor: Tech Tip Tuesday
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- In this Tech Tip Tuesday, Doug talks about Intake Air Temp Sensors.
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Not so much a tech tip, but a market suggestion. A Gen 2 LT1 making 1800+ HP just ran a 6.96 @ 211 at World Cup. And you guys don't sell anthing for that engine lol. Lots of guys are swapping GM LS coils onto those and running them with an 0411 PCM and HPtuners or going to a Holley EFI setup like I have. And we'd love some of the stuff you build exclusively for LS guys to be brought to the SBC market. Some of us are trying to bring these old "boat anchors" into the 21st century. Some center bolt billet valve covers with built in coil mounts for an SBC/LT1 would be a great place to start. Steam port kits would be cool too. After all, it is the superior engine 😉. An LS powered car has yet to run 6's with an H pattern trans after all. But Tick Performance did it with the most underrated small block GM has ever built lol.
The grub worm
That overlooked LT1 is the Generation X of engines. :D
How about a tech tip Tuesday on how to use the rife sensor blocks, what they're good for/ not good for, and maybe a good 1 on fuel injectors, fuel pressure, and regulators/ boost demand regulators
Just thought of another 1, how about a tech tip Tuesday on electronic throttle body vs cable throttle body (LS car applications only), which is better and why? And how to change from electronic to standard cable setup. Just got a nick williams 102, been wondering how the new icon throttle bodies stack up against electronic 1's
@@patricklawler4301
The one with no Cable...its like wi fi...
I just got my Rife / Motion IAT sensor in last week. Damn sensor looks nice, can't wait to get this turbo 460 up and running again!! 🤘
Would love to see a video with the newer EWP water pump, how you mount them, how you control them (Pwm, constantly on) and how your bracket can help put together a remote water pump setup.
Bump 👆🏼👆🏼 for tech tip Tuesday!!
Also show hose sizes needed, and how to setup a radiator overflow can with it
we use -16 an hose on the EWP150 and control it with a holley SSR. works great. can get a methanol LS warmed up pretty decent.
Got mine the day after your first video in December.
How do you like it?
Amazing product! I really appreciate you having the settings for the sensor to input into Haltech on your website as well.
I bought one a couple months ago and lost the darn thing!
Can we get a pre-intercooler response curve mapped against boost to see how fast the Rife sensors actually are?
Gail Banks system works great. his new air mouse also added to a system is great.
You should talk about what it takes to run methanol like fuel system parts and injector size and do I need an intercooler or not
on the manifold I've seen heatsoak and trows the reading off, maybe drag racing you won't see heat soak because you run like 2 minutes at a time
It’s funny, I was just having this discussion with someone asking why I was putting my IAT in my aluminum intake. Are the Holley sensors problematic as well?
The Holley sensors are simply relabeled auto store slow sensors based off 80s technology
I would like to know what typical temperature range is normal for naturally aspirated engines.
Might be worth mentioning. That you can save a bunch of money potentially by checking your local. Self service or upickit salvage yard.
I know i did. The ABS module i pulled from a car like mine was 25 bucks.
Same with engine ecu
And
Transmission computer or TCM./tcu
what about a 4150 efi intake on nitrous ? where would you put the sensor
I notice that those sensors are rated from -10F to 335F. Does that mean they don't work properly in environments where the temps regularly get as low as -30F?
Thanks for the awesome Tech. Could you do one on suspension limiters please..
How about a ttt showing how to hook a street car up to a switchboard. With working headlights and blinkers, etc that doesn't have a factory column. That would help alot
Where do you suggest putting the air temp sensor on a turbo car when you are running on alcohol and without an intercooler?
??? Doesn't matter what the set up is, you want to measure the IAT as close as possible to where the air it's entering the engine IE 3:12
I really enjoy tech tips Tuesday Doug you always tell us all the information that we need when we're building our own cars. Excellent content as usual.☝️👏🤜🤛🤚🤏🤘🤞🙏👋💯
Hello sir i have a question for you ??? I did an LS swap is a 5.3 vortec .i installed an aftermarket intake manifold aluminum. I have a holley terminator x max wiring system. I was told to pur MAT SENSOR IN FRONT OF THROTTLE BODY 90MM SNIPER. I HAD IT UNDER THE INTAKE BUT IT GETS 150 + HOT . NOW I INSTALLED IT IN FRONT OF THE THROTTLE BODY AND STILL RUNNING HOT AND ON MY HAND HELD CONTROLLER SCREEN SHOWS SOLID YELLOW AND MAKING ENGINE RUNNING HORRIBLE ??? ANY IDEA I CAN USE THE HELP .THANKS
Any video on what temperature should be?
i feel like there is more to your question
Very informative like always. Thank w
In a nitrous set up, where would you typically mount the sensor? Are they compatible with the nitrous?
I just wanna know where is the key that IT sensor is located to replace
something I wanted to ask off this topic
for a mechanical pump I see RB do a off cam gear set up and wanted to if looking at running a set off power steering pump with pump sharft facing engine
I only ask as I'm building a monaro (gto) and have no room with turbos a/c alt power steering pump
just an idea to look at
megasquirt ecu's generally want to use the typical GM IAT sensor, do RIFE IAT work for those as well?
Hello I have a complicated one with the IAT sensor in my 2006 VW Passat FSI engine, how can I give more details and get your advice on what to do about it sir?
Im LIKE 1000 🎉
Would I need program in a stock ecm on 06 Silverado!?
Good info
I have a 3.8L GM engine Series 2 with a supercharger, and the factory location is at the air intake right at the air filter of all places. Is there a way to alter the location to the throttle body with a vac hose so I don't have to disassmble and drill/weld/tap the factory setup? Or does it really not matter on that model (1996 Buick Riviera, supercharged). The thing pulls great and I'm not sure if it would be worth while.
hello, I did a swap with a 5.3 gen III vortec engine, I changed the original intake manifold for an intake manifold with a double throttle body, do you think that the best location for the IAT is the back of the intake manifold? What IAT reference do you recommend? Thank you for your answers.
Hey hru i have a question where is a IAT sensor on a 2015 nissan sentra sv located ? code P0111 came up and also how does it Look?
what made you put it between 2 and 4 and not 1 and 3 ?
I heard befor and also saw it in another video, is that when you unplug a MAF sensor while the engine is running, if it shuts of then the sensor is working, if still running, then the sensor is bad. Does this apply also to IAT sensor? I mean, is that another way to test it? Specially if you have no multimeter?
Unplugging IAT would set an error maybe a MIL light but wouldn’t shut off. Also not every car with a MAF would shut off some still may run when unplug , so be careful with those types of unplugging diagnostics .
How about what engine transmission combos require special flywheel / flex plates and or spacers and different starters. (LS)
Bump 👆🏼👆🏼 for tech tip tuesday!!!
Touch on good injectors vs bad or cheap vs expensive I bought some snake eaters before to avoid paying the price of a good set of injectors and it cost me more than a good set of injectors would’ve lol
YES!!! Great question.
Are ID’s worth the money over FICS or Siemens 210’s?
I don’t care how much injectors cost, I simply want the best. Your experience and expertise is invaluable.
@@JWP1990 right.
IDs and billet atomizers are awesome.
can the rife sensors be used with a factory GM PCM?
Can I change my old one to the one you recommend without any tuning to get better and more accurate readings, or will it need to be retuned with the new sensor on it first?
What Ecu?
@@MotionRaceworksOfficial same question. Computer is E40
Same question with fitech. Are the ohm readings and all the same as the gm (acdelco) factory sensor? Do you have to adjust map for this?
Lol more fast , still enjoy these videos, it helps for sure
I am running an LSA supercharger with a new GM ZL-1 lid. The IAT sensor that is in there seems to respond pretty quickly. Way way quicker than an old style early LS1 style sensor. Is your replacement sensor even better than the unit in the LSA setups?
Yes it is
Wow, if so! Doug can you provide data? I’ll take 4
I bet no1 can tell me where the iat senser is on a 2013 buick verano
So let me ask you this since me and my buddy have been arguing about this damn sensor for over a week now…lol. I have 2007 Dodge Magnum 6.1 with a SMS 296 supercharger mounted to it. SMS designed to plug my oem IAT sensor in almost the same location like you have on your LS. I think it’s fine, but my buddy insist that I extend it to the intake air filter area right before the TB. What are your thoughts??
I know alot of people claim that you should put your IAT before Throttle or intercooler etc.. just because that the manifold gets hot from the engine. The thing is, thats why you would want it in the Manifold, to get as accurate temperature reading as possible. The air gets heaten up and cooled down from the air filter to the manifold ( alot of changes up and down because of the pressure changes in the air in the different sized intercooler pipie-intercooler-manifold etc..) . But the last temperature change on the air is goona be right before it enters the cylinder. That's why i would think its stupid to put it too early in the system.
@@timmytelebrant7695 thanks!
@@matthewippolito8089 but i dont know to 100%.
Just read the link ecu manual, where they said "put the sensor before thottle body to avoid heat soak from the manifold.". I guess i the end it may not matter. Rb26dett GTR have their IAT in the manifold OEM.
@@timmytelebrant7695 so maybe I just leave it where Steve Saleens team intended where to put it, after the intercooler fins.
@@matthewippolito8089 leave it if its there. 🤟☺️
Can it be in the intake if its on a carbed engine?
RIFE Sensors, looks like no sensor configuration for a Ford
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I know I need to go to the website but with yalls iat do y’all send data for it ? To rescale in the tune? Or same scaling just works better ?
Yep we have instruction sheets for Holley, fueltech, and Haltech on the product pages, and we have general data as well there
What about Methanol injection? Before or after the nozzles?
After, but not in the direct spray of them. You want to know the cooled air temp before it goes into the engine not before it’s cooled.
@@clementb12 I understand that b
but how can I avoid direct spray? The Methanol is going through the entire intake.
Blazer content please!
o2 sensors and ethanol/ methanol based fuels
TMI
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned
from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the
Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025
on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas
station per city or county. Now they want to slow down all the gas station fuel
pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in
the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems,
turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and
New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be
done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of
crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. Bundesabgasbespaßungsverbotsverordnung in German.
:-(((
Tell me about it bro...!, I’m living in Germany for a few years now and the price of gas went up 30c in 1 month, Diesel price increased by 40c a litre.. (There is 3.75 litres in a gallon) At €1.79 per Litre, that’s € 6.71 per Gallon, then convert that into dollars = $ 7.76 a Gallon...! Even though we have a direct line from the massive Russian oil pipeline.. There is no issue with supply over here, they re just Taxing the hell out of us, just to get to work, to pay more TAX on our pay check. Where is the line ?
I’m living in Germany for a few years now and the price of gas went up 30c in 1 month, Diesel price increased by 40c a litre.. (There is 3.75 litres in a gallon) At €1.79 per Litre, that’s € 6.71 per Gallon, then convert that into dollars = $ 7.76 a Gallon...! Even though we have a direct line from the massive Russian oil pipeline.. There is no issue with supply over here, they re just Taxing the hell out of us, just to get to work, to pay more TAX on our pay check. Where is the line ? I’m having to take all my goodies of my motor, just to be able to afford to drive it :-((((((((
ooooook this is just a SALES PITCH , AND NO DATA TO PROVE IT. JOKE
Watch our other video on the channel comparing the rife iat to a standard. This video is about placement. This would basically be part two. Take time to look around before you jump to conclusions sir
@@MotionRaceworksOfficial There needs to be some reference for comparison...like a fast acting thermocouple. Otherwise its just one vs the other. That's the data he's looking for.