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U God spoke to VladTV about Wu-Tang's third album, The W, which he believes wasn't hard enough. U God went on to explain that he wasn't a fan of any of the albums after Wu-Tang Forever, adding that he didn't think RZA was bringing hard enough production on any of the other records. U God went on to speak about voicing his complaints to RZA, which you can hear more about above. - บันเทิง
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I have a feeling that U-God doesn't like Rza...😏
lovechild tre : Sounds like there’s still some beef between them.
I have a feeling he dont like Vlad..😂😂
There's tension because, without rza wu tang sound isn't authentic. Once rza fell off everything went
good... because he's a house nigga
@@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha i hope he's better at writing books than rhymes, i'll tell you that!
RZA should never abandoned the soulful samples that fitted the Wu overly well for that radio friendly sound.
PREACH. 🙌
Yep He brought it back with supreme clientele and then went away from it again. I never understood the point of fixing what’s not broken
@@Zone0ut He got bored and wanted to prove to himself he could evolve
@@exillens Do you think DJ Premier wants to prove he can evolve? Fuck that..he has his signature sound and RZA should of stuck to what he does best
@@bobbydazzler329 Hey, I didn't say it was a good move. Just saying what he was trying to do
I think what gets lost is the amount of music he put out in a five year span before the decline. That was an extraordinary run. That five year run alone put him in the top 5 discussion of producers regardless of the decline....
That's exactly what I'm saying
I feel like Rza was a musician who wanted to go beyond the restrictions, the rest of the clan for the most part is purely rappers.
Oj I feel like your statement is dumb because if the artists doesn’t like the production and there all saying that, maybe rza should’ve listened, since he was the only one who kept thinking his beats were so dope
@star in fact when you listen to W now its way better
I think Rza was so talented that he lost scope of how to keep that shit narrowed into hip hop. Like before he channelled all that shit just right .
@star 96 to be precise. Actually that was the end of their good shit.
ya thats basically it
This man seems like he's always angry .. we all have that one friend
@Supa Slime Me too. Reason why I like UGod.
Having outburst and shit
Lowkey that friend can be crucial, because if he hype you know you did something.
@to serve and obey go watch jeremiah Phillips bufurd youd laugh your ass off
@@vunuxbuku5212 😂😂😂😂😂
Niggaz went from C.R.E.A.M. to dancing with The Flintstones in the Gravel Pit 😂
That was the low point..
Gravel Pit was a vicious song.
Lolz 😄
I see U-God's point... Rza is my favorite producer of all time but he made a lot of wack beats...
but Gravel Pit was dope af
@Noob Sailboat u God had some fire on there ... watch ya mouf
Prime RZA, 92-97 was arguably the best and most unique producer in the genre of Hip-hop. I hate to say it but U-God is right. RZA became way to experimental in his work. He turned everything into an art project instead of making bangers for the hardcore fans.
how was boom bap rap unique at the time at all😂😂
DJ Paul & Juicy J all the way for that period
📠
@@perzonne6302 he had his own unique sound. It's bigger than the drum patterns and honestly 3 Sixes music didn't peak till around 98-2000 when they sampled more as well.
Dude wu tang clan as a whole was a giant experiment by RZA at least he’s trying to grow with his craft
@@perzonne6302who??😂
RZA tried to do what many producers felt forced to do in the late 90's in hip-hop, left sampling behind and started creating beats from scratch, and got a bit exposed for not being able to make beats or music that really pack a punch, for lack of a better term.
Rza tried to go with a different sound which was too much funk
As much as I like RZA. U-God is correct on this one
I was kinda bummed that the 3rd album wasn't as hot. Have to agree with U god on that. If his opinion actually mattered to Rza I wonder how the album could have been.
Bobby Digital,
Supreme Cliente, Tical Judgement day to name a few, let's not go there. Or the solo joints don't count now? Wu-Tang is a extended family.
@@lu4goldenchild but hear me out. Those were SOLO albums. They might be extended family, but the creative decisions leaned more on each solo act rather than Rza choices. You can definitely tell with the solo joints that they have their own identity while Wu Albums sound like Wu albums be out bad or good.
@@cp24eva True I mentioned solo, the debate is his production after Wu Forever right? OK, then i don't need to mention over a dozen tracks he has produced in The W, 8 diagrams, Iron Flag, some seriously good bangers. Sometimes it's good to revisit ya'll. Peace
I know it may be hard to outdo Wu Forever, but I definitely feel the past albums could have been much better if the time and dedication would have truly went into it. I just believe they all were so busy with other things and didn't take the time to make the Wu music we know them for
I got a feeling a lot of studio sessions ended up with hands being thrown.
Loool
U God: The beat weak again Rza what's up with all this sucka shit! Rza then punches him and say's was that hook weak? U God getting held back replies back almost as weak as the hook on the last track
With him and ghostface in the room yeah. They seem like hotheads
MrSurprise 22 That’s a good one, bro!
They did lol.
Rza was probably like, "WHO PUT THIS SHIT TOGETHER, ME THAT'S WHO. WHO DO I TRUST, ME" - Scarface voice
🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO ayyooo😭
Facts 😂
😂😂
I would too
The issue is everyone has an inspirational limit. Rza had to make way more tracks than any other producer, because he was making tracks for the Wu and all the guys individually. So instead of picking the 10 best tracks and banking 30 more beats for later development, now Rza can't store those, because he needs 10 more for Meth's album, 10 for ODB, 10 for Raekwon, etc. That's always been my theory on why Wu-Tang was so strong in the mid 1990s but then fell off. Rza just straight up ran out of tracks. And I hate to say it, but U-God wasn't really good enough to make several hit solo albums. Only Meth and ODB had that going for them.
And GZA
Hey don’t forget Ghostface. Tony Starks has arguably the best solo discography of the Wu. At the very least, the most consistent in quality
Yea they were the stars I found out about them threw ODB. Wasn't till I saw a live show n early 90s am like wut ODB doing there
U-God is tripping. Because GZA's whole Liquid Swords' album was produced by RZA, and its in my top 5 albums of all time, i think it might be even better than ''Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers''
@@johnysnoww3831 he CLEARLY says AFTER Wu Tang Forever... Nobody is disputing how great Rza was prior to that. He's talking "Iron Flag", and "8 Diagrams" Wu Tang
Rza got too Hollywood after Wu-Tang Forever...You can tell U-god is not feelin' Vlad and his questions.
right
@DICK LONG
Very understandable that he would save his best beats for thoso signing the biggest checks.
After Wu forver and gza liquid swords and genius and few method joints the clan were really not as efficient as they were when they were hungry . And that also is very understandable cuz it takes a very dedicated lover of their craft to keep pulling the rabbit out of the hat year in and year out even when they are comfortable enough and there is no need for it. Maybe U god is pissed because he did not see the same amount of paper that others who are not as vocal as him did cuz they are too busy munching on their well deserved bread .
Exactly, you seen Rza's movies and acting? Pitiful.. I don't like besmirching WuTang even. Method Man did movies and acting except he was good.
yep
Jedi King Pudge Breakfast Club interview was Dope.
U-God 100% on point about the subpar beats on the last few Wu albums.
True, when The W album came out I got it the same day it came out, I was excited, listened to it, and I was not feeling it, and was pissed off about it.
Subpar lyrics too
RZA did less sampling and more building from scratch. Lost the grit and grime from the previous albums
@@user-fm3xr9yz3i without dope beats to draw inspiration, the lyrics will of course start to decline.
@@mistahmst not really, a good lyricist can rhyme over any beat. No Said Date only has a handful of decent tracks but Masta Killa kills it every time
U-God is one of them real dudes who just don’t give a damn
Samuel Jackson of hip hop lol
@@tylique9142 🎯
Plain n simple…its too many rza dick eaters on here that wasnt there n was never close that dont know how all this shit was situated
He is a bitter and a RZA hater though
Inspectah deck as well
U-God is disgruntled but he's not wrong.
He talk to damn much.
He used to do that back in the day, plus he didn't need rza to put out an album. He 50 years old still complaining.
@@LionKing-ox1dr I think he needed that RZA production and oversight like all of the first solo albums.
@@CJohnson3180 I understand that, but he acted like the rza owed him to do it. If he would have kept his mouth closed and stayed in the studio working with anyone of the other beat maker's rza would have backed him 100%. P.s he was saying rza beats was trash and it got back to rza lol.
@@LionKing-ox1dr RZA really doesn’t like wu working with other producers that’s why he dominated their works and a wu breakup would’ve been complete shit for all parties
@@australium7374 So rza had control over ugod not making music or making music, I'm confused?
I've always felt the Wu solo albums were stronger than the group albums, other than the first 2. That first string of solo albums from 1994-1998 were incredible.
The Purple Tape was 🔥🔥🔥
Iron Flag was dope af
@@mentlinc 😂😂😂
Cap
@@PaulLfc-ml1bj I got time for this debate what u got to say?
I feel his opinion on the situation with the beats.
i agree even tho Rza is the GOAT producer
@@BluntforceJ you spelled timbaland wrong
@@madddoggnogood1491 bruh... I respect Timbaland but noooo
I never looked at RZA as a great producer. Not a bad producer, but I never saw him as being on the same level as some of the other heavy hittin' producers of that era, like Dre, Johnny J (probably the most slept on producer in Hip Hop), Mike Dean, DJ Premier and a few others.
Yea Rza should’ve collaborated with other producers to create a new sound with the same lyricism. I believe that’s what U-God is stating. He wasn’t a bad producer but was just sticking with what he kno
For everyone who’s wondering why U God ain’t in the new Wu Tang series on Hulu, here ya go lmaoo
He is in the series he just hasn’t been introduced
Ricky Bermudez G?
Ricky Bermudez how he’s in the series?
@@rickybermudez5709 no, U-God don't want nothing to do with the show so he's not gonna be in it
@Gordon Gekko no, U-God don't want nothing to do with the show so he's not gonna be in
U God spitting FACTS. As a Wu fan since they came out (im 43) i always said it was production with them. You GOTTA have outside house production. All them MCs yall got and you rely on one producer? No,thats not how that goes. I always said they should have been talking too more East coast producers and they wouldve lasted longer.
There were also west coast producers that made gritty east coast sounds like dr Dre. Even 2pacs producers and himself could make gritty sounds. And plus 2pac loved wu tang
True, but also I felt they could have benefited from skilling up on the production side themselves too
It wasn’t just one producer there were Wu affiliates like Allah Mathematics and 4th Disciple who had a similar sound and probably produced some of the tracks you thought were RZA. You can’t branch out too much, Wu Tang over Premier might be fire but it wouldn’t be Wu Tang
Bro, U God ain't shit. I don't even consider him Wu
Havoc, madlib or alchemist production would be so dope with all the members spitting over it
RZA should have definitely listened to all the members opinions because they were factual.
Strictly Hip Hop That’s a complete contradiction.
He made them something out of nothing. U god sounds ungrateful
Hindsight is 20/20
Yeah I agree, the first Bobby digital was the last solid production on an album rza did. or at least that's what I'm aware of.
@@tochiRTA word up lol
When RZA started making original music on the keyboard, his beats lost the feel they had when he sampled.
Super Facts!!!! 💯
Nail onda hed.....
No more analog.....
Gza second album Beneath the Surface was the start of all that goofy production...
It's around the time they were cracking down on sampling
@@aboveitallproductions269 - There are ways to keep the feel of samples. You can play live instruments then record it into a drum machine like a Sp1200, ASR, or MPC.. But, recording a keyboard into Pro Tools, sounds too clean for Wu-Tang production.
Good production can cover for weak lyricists easy. But if the beats are terrible, it doesn’t matter who is rapping, the song is going to be trash.
I've heard ghost say something similar... he nicely said RZA beats no longer suited him....
Ghost didn’t want to hurt Rizza’a feelings
Deck said something akin to that some years ago.
U God needs to be a regular cuz we need to hear his unfiltered opinion on EVERYTHING 🤣😁🤣
Facts
I don't. The interview wouldn't be worth it. "VLAD, I DONT KNOW BOUT ALL DAT SUCKA SHIT. WHY AM I HERE?!"
Dam you guys have good points all I can say is WU-TANG FOR EVER
R0_mega chill🤣🤣😭
@@R0jira maybe it will help this self-incriminating for clout shit, that Vlod bottom feeds off of for views...it's not Vlods fault that they can't keep their mouths closed...but he does make it seem like a safe place to tell all.
U-God is slowly morphing into Paul Mooney right before our very eyes 😂
I swear I thought of the same thing man , he even got that bitterness down too
Speaking truth and people don't like it. Especially the targets.
😀😭😂😭😂😂😂
For real
Facts 😂😂😂😂😂 without the Sus part
U-GOD is called "Grouch" for a reason.
I believe U-God love RZA.
And U-GOD is going to get that work done but is going to complain all the way through. Lol. Just the brother he is.
Gotta respect that. You know where you stand with U God. You know his praise is authentic, his love is real and his criticism comes from a refusal to countenance bullshit. Therefore his opinions mean something.
The problem U-God has with RZA being musically in control of everything is mad understandable. As all the members developed and evolved “creatively” the Abbot should’ve made sure that they had a bigger say and more creative control within the group. The hard part is that cats evolved creatively in different directions and it’s very difficult for all parties involved to agree on what direction to take. Me personally out of the group, I would’ve rode more with the direction that Raekwon and Ghostface were going in… then sprinkled it with Mef & Deck and went from there inserting the other 5 members… but Hey that’s just me!
U-God looks/acts like he just dropped his ice cream.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He's biligerant as fuck, kinda reminds me of an angrier Rick James
Watch the Wu doc on Showtime and you will see why. Rza was on some bullshit and you can see it in the other members body language
😂 Lol
refusefntk biligerant? What does that even mean.
RZA's beats were more chunky, had deeper bass, and had some nicer samples back in 1993-1996.
@Real Talk True Story yes, true...the beats on Forever were dope, no doubt...But it was much cleaner on the mixing n engineering. More polished sounding. Some ppl like the more gritty, dustier sound. Depends on who u talk to.
its also not very well known, but rza lost hundreds of beats and probably his old DAT tapes of drums etc. in a basement flood right before wu-tang forever. he lost everything he was going to use on inspektah deck's first solo album and probably a lot of other projects
@@lajikaln9ne933 The mixing on Wu-Tang Forever was awful bro
Ugod is not laying the production was weaker after forever
Anybody got some examples of wack beats yall n God are talkin about???
U-God could’ve left after the first album and nobody would ever have noticed
Absolutely no one. Lol.
VLAD is very toxic in the hip hop community.
How’s he toxic
@@claysoggyfries if you watch his videos in the past, he thrives off of trying to fish out the negative stuff between artists.
@Mr. D Brown i seriously don't need your advice.
@Mr. D Brown idgaf what you need or don't need. I didn't address you with an opinion, dickhead.
@Mr. D Brown Then don't read it. Your logic. BTW, if you haven't noticed, this is a YT-comment section. An opinion board. What do you expect? If Pookie2419 says VLAD is toxic and he also gives reasons that's completely legitimate. And him calling you dickhead, well, understandable.
No disrespect to RZA but everything U-God said after 2:05 was facts
Faaaaaxxxxx
That Bobby Digital CD was terrible!
No disrespect to U God but 99% of his verses are trash
@@kevinshell8392 I-WAS-AROUND-THE-GODS-WHEN-HE-DROPPED-THAT-ALBUM-MY-BAD....I-MEAN-RZA-@-HIS-FAMILY
WHO-YOU-KNOW-FROM-THE-WU-JOSH-STEPHENS???OR....ARE-YOU-JUST-SPEAKING-AS-A-FAN??
I thought it was just me that hasn't been feeling rza since wu forever
@catonic "I had to force myself to like them" ..I didn't. I know music and it just (objectively) went downhill after Forever.
He still gets permanent respect for what he's done. Also having seen them live, he's the clear leader of the group. Also his production was insane on all the solo albums like liquid swords, cuban linx etc
He's been pretty good on ghostfaces solo albums and I like the Afro samurai and kill bill Ost he did .
RZA didn’t realise his strength and his sound was the lofi equipment he used. He was obsessed with getting into studios and using synths and playing instruments but he actually had no musical talent and the beats were wack. I agree with U.
I make beats too. I tried going away from sampling bc I felt like I was stealing. Truthfully though u cant play the instruments better than the people u sampling
I agree with you, but those old MPCs and the SP1200 are not lofi equipment. Quite the opposite actually. The problem is that he began to adopt newer equipment that simply wasn't capable of reproducing the sound from those amazing samplers. It's also possible that he was never that talented to begin with considering all of Wu Tang's in-house producers are making quality music to this day while RZA hasn't made a decent beat in over a decade.
@@bournedevinesupreme well the SP1200 was 26khz and 12 bit which I’d describe as pretty lofi? But yeah I’d agree with you.
@@theseoldbeats I know what you mean, and that does sound unimpressive on paper. However, there's a reason why they still go for nearly $10K after all these years. Even the spiritual remake (s2400) doesn't quite match the sound of the original despite the advances in technology). I guess I just have a hard to calling such expensive equipment low fidelity.
@@bournedevinesupreme I’m not saying it’s rubbish equipment but it is lofi, there’s no getting around that. It’s less than half the sound fidelity of modern studio standards. That low bit and sample rate gave it that gritty, edgy hiphop sound.
Rza didn't realize that sometimes it's like football. The head coach sometimes have to give the play calling responsibilities to the offensive/defensive coordinators because he has too many things on his plate already. He put too much pressure on himself
As a former beat maker myself. I believe that with most if not all beat makers, you do your best work when you have the least to work with. I think the issue was that when the WU became successful, RZA gained an entire studio full of toys to play with. When you have so many options, you don't need to be as creative. When you are limited in your equipment, you are forced to squeeze a lot out of a little. My best beats were the ones I made when I was rockin belt driven turntables using an Sp-202 sampler.
That’s the absolute truth. It happened to me when I started buying everything and not being able to decide what to make what on. Stripped back down to using just the ASR-10.
You are both right. The more options I have the more indecisive I am. Sheer amount of different styles I can make my beat is too overwhelming and I can't prioritize. Also, other thing is I dislike and even fear having too many beats to drop, I think it will diminish their image if it becines consistent and too much in quantity. I even fear having it too easy, I can sample many many easy things that will make dope, commercial shit but I'm not feeling them, like the product in the end is not even my own thing.
good for you for having an opinion on the most famous rap group in the history of hip hop and their famous beats
This is inadvertently one of the best vlad interviews due to unintentional humor
FACTS 😂😂😂
Serious!!! 😂😂😂😂🇯🇲
😆 lol
If that unintentional humor entertained you, should check out the T-pain Vlad interviews 👌
Facts!!
Rza's never fell off with the production, his team fell off. Rza had a vision and once brothers started getting money everyone started thinking they were above Wu-Tang. Why would Rza put his hard work into something he knew brothers hearts wasn't in anymore? This is why Rza told all of them "you can leave but Wu-Tang stays with me".
I 100% agree!!! I really felt that Raekwon’s “Shaolin vs. Wu Tang” album was the true successor to “Wu-Tang Forever” and kept with that classic Wu-Tang sound and samples. (“Only Built 4 Cuban Lynx 2” had sick ass production also!)
Such an Underrated album. Thought it was better then "Cuban Linx 2" personally
@@myronsanders4563 It’s definitely better than Cuban Links 2
Hell no. Supreme Clientele destroys that Shaolin vs Wu Tang album. Y'all be bugging. 🤦
@@grandmasterciphersupreme7751You a slump chump
@@snoopy4749 Shut your non rapping ass up. Wack ass. 🏌️
Ghostface never has bad beats imo he has the best discography in the clan and one of the best catalogs in rap period, and his albums definitely have the best beats
Facts top 5 rappers of all time
@@MrNewminds I don't know about all of that 😂 but Ghost's taste in beats is def elite
I agree. Ghost is involved with the production of his albums a bit more than some of the other members
No arguing that at all
None of them better then "Only built for cuban linx" even tho he's on it and no I didnt 4get!
“Me and U-God attend the same anger management class” -TK Kirkland
K
duck you and tk fuckin creep.
C’mon man lol
🤣🤣🤣
Isn't that just a crazy sight to picture... Wu Tang members attending anger management to work their feelings out
Rza let the fame get to his head. And after rza couldn’t make those strong ass raw WU beats, it was over. The artists feed off that old hard school WU beats, that get you amped, and where it inspires that beautiful WU rap.
he made like 7 classics and lost plenty of beats in the flood, give the man a break
Definitely...Rza went all Hollywood
Hell no RZA production wasn’t wack after Wu Forever, yes, it was never the same as before before not WACK. His production on the Bobby Digital series alone 🔥
That first Bobby Digital was stupid dope. Otherwise he did fall off
You just answered Ur own question...Wu sound was never the same...'changed'
Preach
Wow... U GOD telling the truth tho... Beats got wack af
Facts
So? he was wack on the phat beats
Bobby Digital was nice
Thanks to that damn flood...😒
Suuuuuuuuu!.. Im with yall fellaz, the beats got real watered down. I was disappointed in a few Wu albums.
Westside Gunn's producer Daringer could put the Wu back in that pocket they want.
🙏🙏🙏yes he can🎻 🦂🎻 🦂
BUFFALO always got the answer NY never want to ask the QUESTION🤔
Mr.Paschall THATS THE MF TRUTH GXFR/BSF/LOYALTY OR DEATH is running the game rn
chrissy indeed. I’ve been bumpin Flee Lord all week ....”LORD ,LORD!!!”
And Roc Marciano
He's not lying though. Especially when guys like 4th Disciple, Bronze Nazareth, Civiringz, RNS, True Master, Allah Mathematics, etc kept the Wu sound going for many many years (some not as long as others). Sure these guys had their own spin on it but it sounded more Wu than RZA after RZA switched the style up. I know, probably not a popular opinion.
he's not wrong though
It hurts because it's true 😭 it wasn't always wack, but it wasn't as good as old Rza.
@NEGUS MBARKA of course because after 1997 the boom bap beat style came to a complete stop.
That’s the gift and the curse. It never will be.
You guys have to understand when you store away and hungry that’s when you at your best when you are fool you no longer want to eat like you at your best you were starving that’s how the game is why does so many of the rappers fall off just because that hunger is no longer there
@@Wyatt6661 wow pennywise speaking wisdom
We need 90s masculinity back. Watch a Wutang video vs any modern rappers video. No comp
Griselda.
@CokeBoiiMontana like 21 savage , his demener is strict AF . cool dude but hes definitely a street dude
@@hardheadfat59 lmfaoooooo 21 savage? ahahahaha
@@SutekhDaSteemroller ha ha ha all day , but who's tried him yet ?
there are a lot of rappers doin 90s shit rn...stop talkin shit bout new rappers all the time n start making the music yourself, shits getting annoying
The mistake was never going back to the first album and saying ''what was done here'' and do it again but 100x better
If the fans already had the mentality that 36 chambers was their best shit, it wouldn't matter what they'd drop. Yall would still say it's trash compared to 36
The term “biting the hand that feeds you” springs to mind!!! Pipe down son 🤦🏻♂️
That same hand was also robbing him 🤷🏾♂️
He aint hatin on RZA he just keepin it 100. Like Always. U God been a real1
He's right the third and fourth album was wack and I was a WU fan I bought almost each members solo joint.
Forever is my fav album due to production. Idk what happened after that. It’s like RZA production never recovered to that Forever sound.
Sometimes he talks reckless about RZA. "Ask his monkey ass" and in the doc 'Of Mics and Men' he shitted on Killer Army (one of which is RZA little brother), Suns of Man and others.
I like U God, but comes across as bitter.
I feel HIM
What he's saying isn't wrong though. There are plenty of Wu fans who would agree that RZA's beats fell off after Wu-Tang Forever.
When asked if I want another slice of pizza...
My answer - 1:47
LOL
YEAHHH...
Lol
😂😂😂
Laughing my ass off
Method man blow up when started working with other producers
Yeah but Meths rap flow fits any beat. Can't say the same about UGod
@@smartyhardy8924 some people are just more fitted and accustomed to certain types of beat.
U-God ain’t hating, he just keeping it real and the truth hurts…. A lot of these new rappers need a U-God in they corner
I gotta agree with him on the beats. They still do have the lyrics and flow
When Bobby Steelz became Bobby Digital
@@drayhudson3776 those Bobby digital albums were fire tho
@@78binks theres a few bangers like silkworm but not on the level of 36 chambers, purple tape, liquid swords and those early Wu albulms
Robbie Analog
That C.R.E.A.M. beat is dope asf, still a classic
That's 1of the only decent 1s they had😂😂dude keeps it real them beats WAS wham
Robert Johnson idk what you’re talking about. RZA’s run from 1993 to about 1998 was unlike any other hip-hop producer. That’s 4-5 years in a row of him producing multiple classic beats that people still listen to and take influence from to this day.
@@robertjohnson6284 never comment on anything again.
Ream came out b4 wu tang forever dumbass
@@robertjohnson6284 goofy
But U-God's chorus on Wu-Tang's "Fast Shadow" (2000) contradicts this.
What if U-God randomly yelled “ Charlie Murphy” ?
This is exactly the reason why the WU still play in concerts 90% of the music that they made between 93 to 99 or 2000
Wu-Tang got 7 albums, but only 2 of them were masterpieces, the first two albums, the rest (5 of them) were not even good, but pretty bad. It's like suddenly RZA lost all of his talent and inspiration.
It's not 2 albums it's more like 10 masterpieces. You can't forget the solo stuff. He produced every clan members debut album almost entirely and all of those beats were classic Wu fire. RZA just stretched himself too thin and blew his creative load by 2000
@@frunkiss and all the gravediggaz shit too. It's like he over worked himself and said fuck it after then lol
@@InvadersMustDie1918 so ur saying 5 albums we're wack even with all these dopes MCs?
Im not forget them. Solo albums are way better than group ones. In mid 90s, RZA was mainly focused more on solo Wu production, but after 97, hip-hop sound changed and his production changed too. Group prod. went wack, but solo efforts still went pretty tight.
You know RZA watching this right now punching his screen 😂
Like how he was screaming on ODB behind stage on the phone at their last concert with him.
with the pointy rings
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@@REAL6 ODB brought his bullshit situation on himself!
But we still love rza
Niggas used to say I was a hater for saying RZA beats was trash I’m glad a nigga from WuTang confirmed it😂😂😂
Rza reinvents his sound every couple albums. Hes a scientist something combinations dont work but he always evolved
Rza got garbage dry ass drums n lazy sample chopping
"You always asking me why!" Haha!
smithblack100 nigga it’s a interview calm yo ass down! 😂
He's right.....my last Wu-Tang album I bought was Forever.....the follow ups were "weak" so I never bought them.
I disagree
I even traded Forever for Liquid Swords
Dave Furbush I would’ve too if I’d bought forever
The W and Iron Flag were deso. 8 Diagrams and A Better Tomorrow were horrid sorry to say. And only because their production suffered immensely. RZA fell off hard
The W was a great album I still listen to it to this day the first 3 album's by wu are my favourites
I kind of agree... the Bobby Digital type beats were ok, but the Rza almost completely let go of that wild and dirty Wu-Tang sound. It just sounds too "domesticated" or sterile.
The Man with The Golden Arms. 👍🏽
Hellava movie ain't it
Anytime y'all see a black man with a strong opinion and y'all think he mad or a hater...nah, ya'll just fragile 😂😂😂
Please let it be known as am long tired of the tirade for yrs
Naw fuck all that he's a bump heads 24/7 type guy drive u nuts typa guy
Vapelife X typical fragile black male ego lol
Nah this dude legitimately seems angry. Some of us can tell the difference between a strong opinion and anger. You don't like killarmy and sons of man? That's fine but go on Vlad and shit on them publicity for something Rza did isn't having "a strong opinion" . To shit on Rza publicity especially on this platform isn't "having a strong opinion" . And snapping on Vlad every third question( even though people like seeing it) just makes you look confrontational and standoffish. I'm not doing an interview with someone I don't fuck with and clearly UGod don't really fuck with Vlad. He wouldn't be acting like this on Drink Champs would he?. Every body calls Vlad a culture vulture and the feds and THIS is the platform you choose to shit on your brother and the architect to you career?
@@elijaharvinger1178 I don't agree with everything he said, but that don't mean he is bitter and he only snaps on Vlod for making statements disguised as questions.
*And of course* I liked some of the side groups! Gravediggaz, sunz of man, killarmy, La the darkman and Shyheim were dope.
i see why RZA never did a "u-god" album
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his first album was executive produced by Rza and it was decent
still listen to it
UGOD album keynote speaker was dope
@SPIRIT DOT wack juice
@IceCreamMan 79 research about what
RZA didnt make all the tracks from the wu tang clan Forever album. True Master had some fine ass beats like MGM,Heaterz that I thought at that time that it was made by RZA. 4th Disciple also worked on their album with alot of beats so the Wu sound was also provided by those guys back then so its not like they didnt have options to chose from after the Forever album. I still want to listen some dope ass album from wu tang with a similar sound.
Wu tang was good with those dark samples - since they made something less dark it wasnt just the same. I would agree totally with him that first and second album were dope - later it was just not good enough when comes to production or maybe not dark enough. RZA just change the style to the point that it was no Wu tang anymore.
Same with solo projects - first & second albums usually dope and then they go with what popular is.
U- GOD look like a light skin version of MC HAMMER.
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True
HE DOES WOW
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Lmaooo he do
He does. Lmao
His honesty is commendable and hilarious. 😂😂😂
He's 100% right that the production just wasn't on the same level as the older stuff. It's unfortunate. On the other hand, even some of their solo albums that RZA did NOT produce, the beats are whack too.
The W was a dope album so idk what U-God is talking about...."Gravel Pit", "Careful", "Redbull" and "I can't go to sleep" were some hard records. Maybe it's just me but I also liked Iron Flag....after that is when things started to go downhill.
He had to bring Nas into the convo 🤣😩
serious nas boner.....nas aint ever comin on
It seems like he doesn't like Nas & Cube
Rza ran out of steam.
Not hungry anymore.
Got way too comfortable.
We need that rebel rza again.
The dark and unpredictable rza.
When his beats were scary because u never know what he was going to do.when his beats were very atmospheric
Cymande Hayes
The grave digger Rzarector!
I think it was that but also he started studying music theory and moving towards film scoring and I think that also contributed to the shift in production.
A better tomorrow was trash and I love the Wu
I got that dark rzarector shit .peace
It’s 2019.....The Rza you describe is long gone and is never ever coming back!
I did not think at all that The W album had whack production. Those beats were super 🔥 I just think he wanted that same energy they had for the WUTANG FOREVER ALBUM
It makes sense him saying Ghost was always saying that cause that's the member who I felt was the most particular about his production and kept his production quality very high the longest
Dig up Killah Priest and put him on VladTV
One of my favorite emcees. "I judge wisely, as if nothing ever surprise me, lounging, between two pillars of ivory..."
Is he a Wu member?
@@chadalahio8266 no
@@chadalahio8266 He's a Wu affiliate, part of the original Sunz Of Man.
Jedi King Pudge Killah Priest = One of the most underrated Rappers of all time.
Best out of the Hrsmn in my opinion.
I agree RZA beats did get weak because he was doing too much.
Well yea he had another group and ..also was doing Bobby digital...too much on his plate to max out.
In his 90's he worked even harder. In 1995 he produced 3 masterpieces: "Liquid Swords", "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx.." and "Return to 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version". How many producers did that amount of work in one year ?
gravediggaz had some nasty beats on that album
@@InvadersMustDie1918 Kanye is definitely in that small percentage
@@InvadersMustDie1918 MF DOOM, as he did Take Me To Your Leader, VV1, and also in 2004, he did a Collab album called Madvillainy, MM.. FOOD, and even his special herbs series he did by himself releasing beats over the years which he put out all those albums and today they are considered legendary. Even DOOM says that was his most busy time to make music but I'd say that's pretty fucking legendary to make all those records within those 2 years alone and still have them ALL be HEAT and or even considered legendary status back to back
U-God is easily the Wu's most grumpiest member. I mean he arguably had his best verse ("Gravel Pit") ever on the W and yet he still complains...smh
I feel like RZA was trying to get ahead of the curve for the sound of the 2000s with his production, it was different and new but probably the other members didn’t understand., cause later that type of sound is what took over the 2000s The Song “one of these days” from iron flag is an example
That why he went 2 da west coast find west coast Rappers find different sound
As a die hard Wu fan I agree with him 100%! After The Forever album the beats were trash except for a few bangers. I remember thinking that Rza fell off at the time. Broke my heart yo! Lol
You weren't the only one who felt that way. I remember getting the W and feeling like it was aight. Then I remember it like it was yesterday. Skipped school with the homie, got the Iron Flag, rolled up a box of Vegas and Optimos, put the CD in, and both of us sittin there just crushed. A bad Wu album.
Yep its true, then we got a watered down version of RZA's sound (at first)......Kanye West
@@DLM323 I migrated over to Dilla and Premier to fill the void. I never was into Kanye like that, I felt that the buzz about him was on some group thought so I stayed away.
ZD watered down??
@@trinidadonassis7411 I agree The W was 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hands down one of the best Vlad interviews. The titled should be UGod keeps it a buck
Vlad gotta keep it slick.
The more time goes by the more I agree with you..
"U-god hates rza"
An unfortunate reality is that most artists - musicians or filmmakers or whatever - peak at some point.
It's a fact of history and we shouldn't be too hard on them when it happens. You should expect quality, but you can't demand greatness.
I just hope that Wu (and all bands really) when they go out drop one final masterpiece like Bowie or ATCQ did.
idk why but i just have this feeling that all artists that aren’t famous yet or anymore go here 😂
i agree
Ugod got that Rick James Feel 2em
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Let me make it perfectly clear. Nevermind who you thought I was... I'm UGod bitch!!!
He does have a Spanky Johnson look about him
That’s the exact same thing I was thinking too. This interview reminds me of the Rick James interview on the Dave Chapelle Show. 🤣
He's spot on....Beats is what took them down. Still my favorite mc/ group tho
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Not just that but they were so low energy on every damn project after 36 chambers. They sound bored as fuck whenever they rap on every wu project after 36
@@woodman2855 Listen to Wu-Tang Forever. 2hrs of some of their best songs. Rivals 36 Chambers
Underfireman
Except for ghost face though . Ghost face was still going great until 12 reasons to die .
Follow the brick road hurts me to say it, but that’s probably because he’s always had a ghostwriter up until 12 reasons to die.
4th and Truemaster should have taken over production duties for Wu-Tang as Rza went off into his journey into the Mountains
The Wu-Tang forever and enter the 36 sounds that we miss on the new shit are now in the hands of mathematics RZA passed on his production expertise from those two albums
True master and 4th disciple are usually on the affiliate albums like KillArmy, Sunz of Man..
So this guy who only has to come up with a few verses for an entire album is complaining about the producer who is making one album after another of straight classic bangers??? What an ungrateful dude
Wow. I really thought Vlad was gonna make it through this interview without mentioning Nas......smh/lol
He has an unhealthy obsession wit that man
@@blove88 😭😭😭😂😂😂 I keep seeing People saying this ....But Why?????😭😭😭😂😂
Good or bad gift or curse he’s DEFINITELY obsessed with Nas, as are a lot of people in HIP HOP, GODSON!!
rza shoulda never stopped sampling.
that shit eats alot of your budget/ profit...
Sampling became expensive, and without sampling RZA was fucked as a musician. Common story.
They kept getting sued by the people the sampled.
@@n3iliusism478 That never stopped DJ Premier, Pete Rock, J Dilla, Kanye or Just Blaze. They've been sued many times.
He had dope original tracks too, even way back.. it’s just him, he feel off
This somewhat explains why the guy who plays rza in the show doesn’t match lol. Rza is stubborn
I think he matches extremely well to him
@@Masked_SVincent then you're blind and deaf lol
@@vintage3262 he gets the attitude and vibe of RZA, he doesn’t sound like him.
I agree with U-God but I also believe U-God never deserved his spot in Wu-tang and never dropped a good verse. He rode on RZAs coat tails, lets be honest.
U god your right. Lyric was amazing but y'all beats were trash
@@tochiRTA yep Example 1 Rakim 2 AZ. 3 Das Efx. Chris Rivers.4 (Big Puns Son)
@@tochiRTA The War Report and N.O.R.E proves this.
@@creflowsdollabill9359 Facts. I liked N.O.R.E. but I could tell Nore's next album was gonna be trash. CNN War Report was that 🔥 though and their second group album had some bangers
It's not & never was just about lyrics, nvm just the beat , It's about how you connect the 2. You can't just fuck with a hot beat with trash lyrics, wtf? Beats are essential & lyrics are 2. Hip-hop always been about how your lyrics ride the perfect beat. A fire beat alone is all that matters 2 contemporary hip-hop heads, fuck lyrics, chanting & auto-tuned sound effects is the wave.
@@tochiRTA exactly. in the beginning was jazz, and the vocalist would manipulate their tone, melody, pitch, everything to go with the instrumentals. It's so bad that hip hop heads have been remixing Wu-Tang albums with other albums' beats.
Imagine a Wu-tang album produced by Madlib, 9th Wonder, Roc Marciano, or The Alchemist. Maybe a combination of them all?
roc marc in my opinion is the greatest hip-hop artist of this decade (2010-2020). Excellent, original, unique lyricism, along with being a superb producer). If him and Alchemist produced a Wu album together, that shit would be FLAMES
Well, J Dilla, Dr Dre or Pete Rock, produced for Raekwon OB4CL part 2 and it wasn't that good.
Throw in some party supplies while you're at it.
Throw in snowgoons
RIGHT or MF Doom
Raekwon and U God talking about that song Weeping where RZA sampled the Beatles ... That was the final straw for Raekwon. "We're not Neosoul, were from the streets.
And that's the problem with these guys. RZA had mentally left the Ghetto since 1997, they stayed there. I get RZA, producing the same shit is boring in the long run especially for someone as smart and quick-witted as him. The others can't understand that because they don't have RZA's intelligence and open-mindedness. Divorce was inevitable. But what was preventing U God from finding relevant producers?
Inspectah Deck and U-God are the best lyricist in Wu. And U-God is speaking hard truth because I only have one song on each on the following albums on my playlist and 36 and Forever I got pretty much all of them. He’s also right about working on a new album for years not months to be good.
Most rock bands take two to three years to drop a new album. Hip hop for whatever reason will just keep flushing them out yearly