@@rhondah1587Too true. The followers are rabid and seething with hate for the evil Left. I don’t get this at all. Many on the left are true Christians and live their lives accordingly. But these “Christian” nationalists are not even espousing Christ’s ideals. They seem to make it up as they go along. Nothing Christian about these MAGAt extremists. Nothing at all.
I don't know that it matters what religion you choose to follow. As a human being who does follow any mind numbing religion....I am scared as well. I think it time we believe what we believe and just leave it out of the conversation. It isn't pertinent.
We must keep church and State separate. What is wrong with these politicians trying to divide us by faith, gender, money and political party. I am sick to death of taking away women’s reproductive rights! Trump is the worst thing to happen to America and our democracy.
Unless it gets to the courts and eventually the Supremes … where we all know the Clarence Thomas brigade will come in strong and hard on … NO separation. I can’t stand that guy 🤮
Finally Tim, finally you (The Bulwark) interviewed Rob and Dan. Please, this topic is NOT a one off. Christian Nationalism and Dominionism is the jet fuel of MAGA. It must be addressed head on daily.
My feeling is that the present two or three generations have been shielded from the tyranny that Europe had to face in WWIi and as a result are blindly being lead by grifters and opportunists into a terrifying stupor. Do humans never learn?
Jet fuel even nuclear power, it’s explosive. They will use their religion to justify any active violence. They have already justified stealing an election. There is NO bottom to what they will do.
I am an EX-evangelical christian and I have been aware of/watching/concerned by all the crazy jesus stuff for years and yes I noticed it on Jan 6. It scares the crap out of me because I truly know and understand the influence it has on people. It is almost impossible to break free from and if you do, then you have to rebuild your life from the ground up. I lost ALL my friends when I went crazy religious. Then I lost all my religious friends when I left 10 years later. Set boundaries for what can and cannot be discussed with you and be patient if you have loved ones that are into this cult of religion.
For that matter when real Christianity gets in the way the zombies have permission to dump that too. These are minions of Satan, remember and believe it.
Shutting down primaries in certain states this year, super delegates, advocate news networks ignoring the primaries this year, not giving candidates airtime to covey their policies. We’ve don’t EVERYTHING to save Democracy, INCLUDING putting our democracy on hold to save it.
I love how Rob Reiner is following in Norman Lear’s footsteps in trying to bring awareness to the religious right’s affects on politics as Norman did in the 80s. Legends following legends.
My pastor & his wife ( my best friend)retired from the Assembly Of God church in New York & went to North Carolina & their pastor said they HAD to vote for Trump in 16. I told her she could vote for anyone they wanted to vote for & she said no they all had to vote for Trump. That's not free will to me.
@@lindascott3973Absolutely!! Once a pastor starts espousing political beliefs on congregants they are no longer a church … they’re now trying to be the state and the law of the land, at least in their congregation. They should be stripped of tax free status.
"The father of the modern conservative movement, Barry Goldwater, recognized and feared the inflexibility of religion in politics in 1994 when he famously insisted, “If and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise." Andrew L. Seidel
I wish more people like Rob Reiner would speak out. Even influencers could make a difference. We can’t let Jim and Tammy Faye part two running our country!!🇱🇷💪🏻
@@maryhalverson5713. But humpy trumpy and Melanie sure do look like Jim and tammy. Probably sound a lot like them too if you gave them a tv show every day. GOP is so phony you should be ashamed to defend them.
"The purpose of Separation of Church and State is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries. " Founding Father James Madison.
@michaelrogers2080 what does THAT have to do with the separation of church and state 2A? The ownership of human slaves is an entirely separate issue. Last time I checked Madison and Lincoln were two entirely separate people.
That is the reason, the framers didn't want a clone of the European religious mess for the US; thanks to the GOP hitching it's, historically corrupt $, wagon to Christo-fascism, 18th century European extremism has gotten a foothold. Thanks to Ronny, W , V.Putin & Donald Trump.
Good to see this is getting more attention. Most people either don’t know or underestimate how important this has been to sustaining Trump and influencing his actions.
We must go back to paper ballots & exit polling! Get rid of the unsafe Dominion(nee Diebold) machines and implement 24 hour surveillance over the entire process with voting day declared a national holiday.
indeed the electoral college was yet another sop to slavery after the compromise of 1789 proves unwieldly. slaves were brought in by the millions. harvesting and refining sugar cane killed 100s of thousands of them.
Which version of Christianity do they want to be the definitive one...Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Episcopal, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Church of Christ, Pentecostal,....etc...etc... They will fight amongst themselves just like the different sects of Islam. The founding fathers were smart enough to see this from a mile away....Separation of Church and State is the only way a Democracy can function.
Religious persecution is one reason Europeans came to the U.S. Those in power permitting their Christian beliefs and prrsecuting those that did not believe as they did.
An interesting point, one I have also used in arguing against Christian nationalism. It's not as strong a point in favour of this though. For those that might not know or remember the context of this quote from the bible, it refers to Jesus answering a group of Pharisees (who hated Jesus's claims of authority) who were attempting to trap Jesus into saying to which institution should a religious person's money should support. The religious church of the day or Caesar's secular government. Had Jesus simply answered to Caesar then the Pharisees would call out Jesus as a heretic for supporting Caesar's Roman religion instead of the church. If Jesus answered the church, the the Pharisees would claim the same heresy on the grounds that it was unlawful to steal from the government by denying the tax collectors.... It seems the Pharisees were a little too obsessed with ensnaring Jesus and failed to realize the simple logic of division presented here. But is Jesus advocating a non-theocratic government under Caesar (where people were allowed to practice their own religion though sometimes subject to harassment like the Jewish rebellion in 75 AD) or simply acknowledging that it exists as the government and that in order to function within that society one must submit what one must to that authority?
Thank you Tim! What a wonderful interview with Rob Reiner and Dan Partland. I’ve been a life long Rob Reiner fan since watching All in the Family back in the 70s!
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” Barry Goldwater.
Thank you Mr. Reiner for being brave enough to call this out from the beginning. I've been warning people since 2015. It was clear to me from the beginning and I never have understood how anyone could fall for the lies. I have learned alot about people from all of this. So much has been revealed and I am grateful for that part.
Norman Lear doesn't deserve the anger the right foments for him. He was incredibly brave serving America in WWII. As a moderate liberal Christian I can't believe how evangelicals and others have fallen for the Limbaugh/Jones demagogues. I watched old friends going gonzo in the 80s listening to Limbaugh and it broke my heart sometimes. They just tore up the Beatitudes and the Gospel commandments with self righteousness.
I was in a bookstore back in about 2003 with my husband, who had a medical condition that was slowly causing him to loose his hearing. We came up on a Rush Limbaugh book, and both or made disparaging comments about Limbaugh. A guy standing nearby jumped on us verbally and say how dare we criticize him when the "poor guy" was going deaf. My husband responded honestly with "I'm going deaf too, but it's not turning me into an asshole". The guy literally didn't know how to respond, and quietly left. A classic response!
It is the algorithm. I see on so many videos people commenting "how come no one is talking about this?" After I just watched 50 videos on it. I think it might be that because of their viewing habits that this video is the first they have seen on the subject. Meanwhile, the rest of us have it as half our feeds.
You’re right is is not unclear. But you should read just the beginning of the 2025 project from the Heritage Foundation. Of course it twists language up into knots, but I was ready for it negating anything LBTQ+ and really anything remotely pro women or viewed as feminist. But then they completely upend the beginning of the Declaration of Independence, stating that Thomas Jefferson didn’t mean what he wrote and that actually he meant the U.S. should be governed by religion. Which of course he did not want as they were throwing off a monarch with a State religion which that monarch headed. It’s terrifying, and it’s not going away anytime soon.
As an athiest, I'm trying very hard to understand this insanity; this was very helpful. Using religion as a ploy to con people is not new; the scale of this cult is unbelievable. I want to know when they drink the ultimate koolaid, break the spell, and the rest of us can go back to normal lives
Dont take this as preaching to you but it has to do with the term faith. And that teaching has been taught by pastors who haven't a clue what it is they are preaching. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen. What is being explained here is the belief that though everything looks bad right now, eventually we will get through it (though it doesnt feel like it today) and one day we will realize it has come to pass and we no longer have to live in faith because once you have it there is no need to keep holding onto the hope of better days. So many preachers teach faith is doing something stupid to prove you have faith. Like selling your house to start a business even though you have not thought through how the business you would like to do will work in your area. The real cost of time, energy, education etc. Also if you want to be healed and still taking meds you dont believe. All garbage teaching and the people who are of the faith movement have thrown out wisdom and any common sense they may have had to believe that those of the faith should be following this guy because it is gods will. Crazy huh? The real faith they are supposed to have is that God was in Jesus reconciling the world to himself because he loves it and is love. See how faith has been misconstrued?
For them, it ends with an Islamic State style Christian theocracy. But the irony is if they could snap their fingers and make their utopia a reality… it would be a nightmare dystopia for everyone except the figures at the top
I worked for 15 years in Islamic countries and I can tell you that there is not a penny's worth of difference between a Christian fanatic and a Muslim fanatic. Same mind set. A fanatic is a fanatic is a fanatic. Keep religion out politics.
@@sandraadams6204 agreed! When ISIS was really taking off I was horrified at how easily people were being radicalized online. And here we are in 2024 and there’s a fanatic Christian MAGA movement that is radicalizing people in just the same way, with Qanon and social media, etc. It’s like they took notes from ISIS and chose to apply the same methods
I’m 64 yrs old, I grew up in an extended fundamentalist evangelical family (Baptist’s mostly), the late Jerry Falwell Snr was an occasional preacher in our local church so you get the flavor. I remember as a naive teenager that one of the church elders taught a Bible study course about Dominionism and that Christians must seize control of the levers of power in society and build a ‘Christian Kingdom’. This particular elder was involved in local politics. So today’s Christian Nationalism is not a new idea but goes back several decades. Slowly but surely the hardliners have been working to take over government at all levels.
Like I said above, at this point, it is starting to look like the "movement", is using _him._ Remember those behind the scene texts at Fox? I'm betting the same thing is going on here, they'll use him to get them over the finish line, then dump him. Bears keeping in mind, this thing ends the minute these people take power again, so replacing the guy you don't like becomes a much more straight forward process....
Wow! Y’all did take it to an 11 today. I’ve been listening to more and more podcasts on Christian Nationalism. (Lincoln Project series). I’ll definitely go see “God and Country”.
A fantastic insight to the growing Christian fundamentalist movement in America. I am not affiliated to any faith but my understanding is that any religion teaches you to live as positive a life as possible. Peace, love and care for your fellow man. How did somebody like Donald trump be in a position of being the president and an important leader of the free world. Do Americans really want their lives irrevocably changed? I really hope that you survive this terrifying uprising. Watch the Handmaid's Tale if you havenf already. A terrified UK resident that lives in hope that you all survive.😊
@@katherinecrossman8521 But we already fought to keep that right. It is a right. What is up with this country having to re-fight all the things we've already gotten. The irony: only white, wealthy men did not have to fight for their rights. The rest of us did. That is the constitution. A bad piece of paper that needs to be rewritten.
The French Revolution was an attempt at outlawing religion or any recognition of a Deity. That would still amount to a persecution. Assuming dominion over another man's faith is fraught with the most dangerous results. I don't care if you want to legislate religion or irreligion. My main question is: "Is Religion a Proper subject of legislation?"
I want to know when and where this movie will be streaming? The sooner the better. I want to share it with a number of people and dragging them to the theater is not a possibility.🇺🇸
I have the same situation with my neighbors here in Texas. If you confront them about Trump’s actual life of infidelity, debauchery, & bankruptcies, they begin to comprehend the fool to King David- yep, the guy that slew Goliath- & his life of being an “imperfect man.” They *actually believe* this crap!
That was a good ! Most people outside the US could see this nightmare coming towards you like a freight train. You did it all to yourselves because you kick every problem down the road and never turn to face it. Finally its coming to bite you on the ASS !!! DO BETTER AMERICA !!!!
Too damn much money running our government! The majority of the population feels like the government isn’t responsive to their needs because the government is busy rewarding their donors! Biden is finally doing things for the middle class, but so many people are so fed up they aren’t giving him a chance. The sad thing is that so many people believe that trump actually gives a crap about them!
There is NO STATE RELIGION IN THE U.S.A., and if we ever allowed this Chrisitan Nationalism we would be forgetting about what happened right here in the 1600's , in what is now the U.S.A., and how persons were tortures and murdered. Jesus wasn't even a Christian.
As a Christian myself, I am sick to death of the ruin of the true meaning of that word. Please call it what it is: pseudo-Christianity. What kind of a Christian truly believes that a consummate liar can be concerned with God's message to the people? The devil, yes - Jesus, no. What kind of a Christian would be caught up in 91 counts of fraud and betrayal? Judas, maybe - Jesus no. Please set the record straight!!
Actually, if you read the gnostic gospel of Judas, his was an essential role in creating Christianity. If Jesus did not get crucified and resurrected, there would not be a religion called Christianity today. According to this gnostic gospel, Judas was the only disciple who understood his special role and was willing to fulfill his part. All the other disciples denied Jesus and ran away. Think about that. Judas was a hero not a zero. Jesus needed someone to "betray" him so the crucifixion and resurrection could happen. Otherwise, Jesus would just have been another itinerant rabbi saying he was the predicted Jewish Messiah.
As a Christian, let me say THANK YOU for this conversation. Emphasis on CONVERSATION actually. It’s how democracies work! @10:07 RR says you can’t FORCE others to believe what you think they should believe. I would add to that “Nor would we (Christians) WANT to!” Coercion isn’t love. Which would make such a belief system a falsehood. A lie. Pretty sure Jesus wouldn’t want that : ) And come to think of it, a forced religion would be something a bunch of Christians said they never wanted back in the early 2000s… Sharia Law. {Not sure if the Religious Right has ever considered that though cause after all, they’re “right”! 😂} PS Christian nationalism is literally the opposite of the Bible and the teachings of the Gospels. And following a person whose beliefs are antithetical to that of Jesus in every single way is not Christianity. Take care and love each other friends…
Your PS is SPOT ON. It’s the absolute core of the discussion. What the Christian Nationalists (Christo-Fascists) are selling is the antithesis of Christianity. It’s laughable how these people use Jesus in every other sentence, but their politics, and in many ways their lives, are the exact OPPOSITE of Christ’s most fundamental teachings. “A spokesperson for Heaven quoted God as saying: “I don’t know these people, I’ve never spoken to them, and I wish they’d stop using my name.” - Robin Williams, on the Christo-Fascist Evangelical Right and Scamvangelists.
Tim, I'd like to see you interview David French and Russell Moore, both of whom appear in the film and have amazing stories regarding what happened to them in their Evangelical circles when they criticized Trump
I marvel at how you guys sit there and calmly talk about the implications of another Trump presidency under a Christian Nationalist dictatorship and not be in a total panic about life in America.
Proverbs 6:16-19, “These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination to Him: 1. A proud look, 2. a lying tongue, 3. hands that shed innocent blood, 4. A heart that devises wicked plans, 5. feet that are swift in running to evil, 6. A false witness who speaks lies, 7. and one who sows discord among brethren.”
_“Religion doesn’t just cloud our minds. It asks us to deliberately deceive ourselves, to replace reason with the opposite: faith. And when men operate on faith, they can no longer be reasoned with, which makes them more dangerous than any sane man, good or evil._ […] _A man without reason is no better than a mad dog, and mad dogs must be put down for the good of everyone.”_ -James L. Sutter, *Death’s Heretic* (2011) Voting in America is like driving a car: if you want to go _forward,_ select *“D”;* if you want to go _backward,_ select *“R”.* You won't get to a destination, by staying in neutral.
My father fought in WWII in Europe to stop Fascism. He was involved with the Episcopal Church (as was my mother) all his life. He was a life long Republican. BUT if he were still alive today he would be disgusted with Trump & MAGA and the whole White Christian Nationalist movement. At one point in time (early 90's) our own local church was taken over by Fundamentalist Evangelicals. He along with other long time members got the Minister (who was a wolf in sheep's clothing) who started the whole mess removed and kicked out of the Episcopal Church. They lost a lot of the congregation, but they got rid of the Fundamentalists and saved the local church. I know it was a hard time for him and my mother. But I know my father believed in the Constitution, separation of church and state, and democracy first and foremost.
@@duanebidoux6087 - The great man would never get anything close to a fair trial in the U.S. -- and it's beyond naive to think the independent journalists who are his true peers would be allowed to attend, let alone have a say in the outcome. Only the gussied up corporate-owned hacks who've misreported every aspect of Assange's torturous dilemma would be given access and they are worse than useless.
@@duanebidoux6087 The Great Man would never get a fair trial in the U.S.-- and it's beyond naive to think the independent journalists who are his TRUE PEERS would be given access to the staged farce, let alone have a say in its outcome.
@@duanebidoux6087 My (hardly troublesome) response keeps getting deleted, which just further illustrates how ridiculous it is to think Assange would get a fair trial. This corporate-controlled site's misinformed viewers are to be pitied, because the truth is rolling in like a tsunami and their humiliation is imminent.
This is excellent! Thank you for sharing this. Everyone should learn the difference and see this film. THIS is EXACTLY what I've been looking for to understand it myself and to share it with everyone to encourage them to learn about it and make genuinely educated decisions and have an educated view when discussing things, especially this year and moving forward. I truly appreciate them for making this film.
I am an athiest, I have always championed for peoples' religious rights, and now I am scared to death of those very people I used to support..... I am a woman, married to a woman, lived in AZ my whole life and now I am afraid of my neighbors.... Tell me again how trump was/is a good president???? Tell me again how this is what jesus teaches???
Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
No shade but it is always wild to see just how much we live in different planes of existence in the same world. In my circle of Black friends we noticed immediately how white, and "Christian" Jan 7 was. My podcast even dubbed it white privilege vs white supremacy. Such a cool reminder how far apart we all can be watching the same events.
To be fair, my circle of friends, white, Black, and everything in between, all said this. It was a pretty common theme right after the 6th, that if the crowd had been Black, they'd have been immediately arrested.
I don't usually click on this subject but I recognized Rob Reiner and remembered him and Carroll O'Connor playing Hoover's man vs. Reiner's Roosevelt man. "Michael" would just destroy Archie's arguments and all he could do was melt down and call him Polack and Meathead. I definitely had relatives that had that pre-WWII isolationist, Hooverism, no "nannystate", no NATO, no trade, etc. attitude. Like Donnie Dump. A popular phrase in the military is "an attitude of gratitude", be glad for what you get because supply lines etc. So i developed and attitude of forgiveness (myself and others) and an attitude of generosity. I'm not starving or suffering so i spread a little of the wealth. I got these from Anger Management and Anxiety Management classes at the VA clinic. The modern equivalent of faith, hope, and charity. And i don't have to go to a building every week to pay to be told what a bad person i am. 😢
I saw a picture of a young woman in Iran pre 1979 .She was beautiful and fashionable. Wearing a short skirt and make up.Hair down and laughing while blowing out her birthday candles. People who say " that can never happen here " are just wrong. We need to take this very seriously
I remember watching some of the rioters praying in the capital loudly as the insurrection was going on and that grossed me out as Christian more then anything. Imagine if Muslim rioters had done that
Way back in the 1960s, my dad told me to go back in history as far as I could. Scriptures, history books on all subjects . Then think about it , and break down every war , no matter how small big or giant , to their lowest common denominator , and you will realize that they ha v e are still fought in the names of God and or greed. That is obvious in the little war started by Republicans. This little war we must fight and win , to keep our constitution, and constitution , is being fought in the names of God and greed . So we have to vote BLUE . And my dad told me as well women and children always suffer the most in war. That is becoming more evident everyday . I m voting for PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS . I want 2 of my sisters back from trumpy and qanon .
Religion is a tool, like a hammer is a tool. People are killed with hammers. Jesus said that we should love our neighbors, as we love ourselves. He said; 'How can you love God, which you cannot see, yet hate your neighbor, who you have seen?" Jesus criticized the religious establishment of his time. Jesus said that we are all blessed, in his Sermon on the Mount', even the poor as an example.
Here’s my theory. There are true believers, but many of them are not among the leadership. I think many billionaires back this ideology for the same reason that slaveholders and lords required slaves and servants to attend church on Sundays to hear sermons on hard work and honesty. Damnation is as strong a coercion as a gulag.
I'm voting for Bobby Kennedy, Jr. - go ahead and laugh - the popular ridicule of him is as disturbing (and telling) as the denial of any secret service protection for him
Be it enacted by General Assembly that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of Religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge or affect their civil capacities. - from the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, drafted by Thomas Jefferson in 1777
I've always believed in Tim and am so glad to see him here/now. Tim, you are thoughtful, thorough and a treasure to the Bulwark but I'm sure they know this or we wouldn't be celebrating you right now! God bless, keep safe and take care -- not to mention congrations!
Tim Miller you are doing a fantastic job and I do miss Charlie but he can spend more time with his German Shepherd nowadays! You're slaying it Tim! Great podcasts! Sincerely John Stallings Annapolis Maryland 💙🙂💜
Thank you, Tim. I've been waiting for this relevant discussion with your fantastic panel. Personally, as a Christian, I'm terrified for our country.
Yes you said it!! We could lose so much besides freedom. That's just horrible!
I am an atheist and you can imagine how they scare me.
@@sandraadams6204 Me too. I am not afraid of their gawd, but his rabid followers are a whole other thing.
@@rhondah1587Too true. The followers are rabid and seething with hate for the evil Left. I don’t get this at all. Many on the left are true Christians and live their lives accordingly. But these “Christian” nationalists are not even espousing Christ’s ideals.
They seem to make it up as they go along. Nothing Christian about these MAGAt extremists. Nothing at all.
I don't know that it matters what religion you choose to follow. As a human being who does follow any mind numbing religion....I am scared as well. I think it time we believe what we believe and just leave it out of the conversation. It isn't pertinent.
We must keep church and State separate. What is wrong with these politicians trying to divide us by faith, gender, money and political party. I am sick to death of taking away women’s reproductive rights! Trump is the worst thing to happen to America and our democracy.
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He is the result of a decades long undermining of religion and changing what and how we teach in our school systems. It's MUCH larger than him.
You said a 'true mouthful'! DITTO
Unless it gets to the courts and eventually the Supremes … where we all know the Clarence Thomas brigade will come in strong and hard on … NO separation. I can’t stand that guy 🤮
How could you possibly leave out "RACE?"
I remember Billy Graham playing golf with Nixon,while my friends were getting their heads blown off!
I remember too😢😢😢
Very well said ! That’s it in a nutshell. Power corrupts.
And so do I . We can't forget . As a 72 year old woman , I will never forget . Trumpy has got to go to prison . We must keep our democracy
I never could stand billy graham.
True, but neither Graham nor Nixon would fit in with this crowd today. However, Franklin Graham is right at home with them.
Finally Tim, finally you (The Bulwark) interviewed Rob and Dan. Please, this topic is NOT a one off. Christian Nationalism and Dominionism is the jet fuel of MAGA. It must be addressed head on daily.
Exactly. I’m glad people are talking about it more lately - it really needs to be brought out into the open.
My feeling is that the present two or three generations have been shielded from the tyranny that Europe had to face in WWIi and as a result are blindly being lead by grifters and opportunists into a terrifying stupor. Do humans never learn?
Jet fuel even nuclear power, it’s explosive. They will use their religion to justify any active violence. They have already justified stealing an election. There is NO bottom to what they will do.
Daily !
Fully agree
I am an EX-evangelical christian and I have been aware of/watching/concerned by all the crazy jesus stuff for years and yes I noticed it on Jan 6. It scares the crap out of me because I truly know and understand the influence it has on people. It is almost impossible to break free from and if you do, then you have to rebuild your life from the ground up. I lost ALL my friends when I went crazy religious. Then I lost all my religious friends when I left 10 years later. Set boundaries for what can and cannot be discussed with you and be patient if you have loved ones that are into this cult of religion.
❤️me too. I completely understand what you’re saying.
Catholics have seen people like this as heretics in the past. Do they know at least know that?
You are a brave person!! 👏Thank you for your courage.
I understand your experience in Evangelism...similar here. 25 years in 'religious slavery', freed by atheism & loving on everyone ❤️💙🌊🇺🇲🇨🇦🇺🇦🏳️🌈
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“you’re given the permission to believe that if democracy gets in the way then democracy needs to go.”
This is the scariest part!!!
Yep. This is what drives the most radical of the bunch.
For that matter when real Christianity gets in the way the zombies have permission to dump that too. These are minions of Satan, remember and believe it.
Shutting down primaries in certain states this year, super delegates, advocate news networks ignoring the primaries this year, not giving candidates airtime to covey their policies. We’ve don’t EVERYTHING to save Democracy, INCLUDING putting our democracy on hold to save it.
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It drives a lot more than just the most radical - evidently you haven't hung out in the Evangelical community that much
I fully agree with you
This is such a dangerous movement. Thanks to all of you for doing your part to make people aware.
The patriarchal religions are so violent.
Trump has no personal interest in religion but he will go along with whatever and whoever it takes to get his old job back.
And he sure has jumped in with both feet!
Trump is high priest in the church of trump and that’s what he believes in- his god.
I picture him more like Thulsa Doom from conan the barb×××××
Trump's only religion is political power. He gains satisfaction from BSing his way through the issues, laughing at the dolts that support him.
I love how Rob Reiner is following in Norman Lear’s footsteps in trying to bring awareness to the religious right’s affects on politics as Norman did in the 80s. Legends following legends.
I Don't Want these People Ruling Me! And I am a Christian!
Yeah, but they aren't!
That is the difference. They are not who they claim to be! We know that any loving follower of Christ's teachings could never behave in this way!!
I'm an atheist and I certainly don't want them ruling me.
I'm proud to be an atheist too!
@becka_boo do you not understand that when you believe in imaginary beings anyone can make up what it means and stands for?
My pastor & his wife ( my best friend)retired from the Assembly Of God church in New York & went to North Carolina & their pastor said they HAD to vote for Trump in 16. I told her she could vote for anyone they wanted to vote for & she said no they all had to vote for Trump. That's not free will to me.
Bully pulpit..mob rule...gangsta gang
That Church should no longer ne tax exempt.
Have you asked them what are they afraid of?
They must have no moral integrity whatsoever. At least they talk to you half my family basically disowned me for calling them out on their hypocrisy.
@@lindascott3973Absolutely!! Once a pastor starts espousing political beliefs on congregants they are no longer a church … they’re now trying to be the state and the law of the land, at least in their congregation. They should be stripped of tax free status.
That was the sweetest remark from Rob when he recognized his dad as one of his favorite people. ❤
My Dad is my hero! It’s a wonderful thing! 🙏🏻🇺🇸⚖️💙🗽
Tim we all appreciate the content and you're doing a great job filling Charlie's shoes.
Rob and Dan were so incredibly respectful of Christianity while pointing out the terrible problems associated with Christian Nationalism. Well done.
"The father of the modern conservative movement, Barry Goldwater, recognized and feared the inflexibility of religion in politics in 1994 when he famously insisted, “If and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise."
Andrew L. Seidel
I wish more people like Rob Reiner would speak out. Even influencers could make a difference. We can’t let Jim and Tammy Faye part two running our country!!🇱🇷💪🏻
These are worse than Jim and Tammy Faye!!
🙏🏻🇺🇸⚖️💙🗽
Joe and Jill look nothing like Jim and Tammy.
@@maryhalverson5713 Like Jim and Tammy , karma, God or whatever you believe in will take down Trump. AGAIN
@@maryhalverson5713. But humpy trumpy and Melanie sure do look like Jim and tammy. Probably sound a lot like them too if you gave them a tv show every day. GOP is so phony you should be ashamed to defend them.
When in history has having a religion based government in a country worked out great for the citizens of that country?
NEVER!
The dark ages
The Catholics Church pretty much " ran" Europe until the Protestant Reformation in the early 16th century.
I think Bhutan are doing well - a Buddhist country but they have a King. They are of course an exception to the rule.
Sounds copasetic. How do women and girls fare, there? Didn't they have a woman as prime minister in the late 20th c?@@giantpurplebrain
Never in my knowledge.
"The purpose of Separation of Church and State is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries. " Founding Father James Madison.
The irony is that most Western European countries are by and large agnostic. The churches are empty.
it's cause they sound what religion had done to people@@sandraadams6204
@michaelrogers2080 what does THAT have to do with the separation of church and state 2A? The ownership of human slaves is an entirely separate issue. Last time I checked Madison and Lincoln were two entirely separate people.
@michaelrogers2080You’ve gotten lost bud.
That is the reason, the framers didn't want a clone of the European religious mess for the US; thanks to the GOP hitching it's, historically corrupt $, wagon to Christo-fascism, 18th century European extremism has gotten a foothold. Thanks to Ronny, W , V.Putin & Donald Trump.
Amazing, who would have guessed the Devil would be using a biblical heresy to destroy Christianity and America at the same time!?
you know that devil is not real. right?
He is a wolf in sheep's clothing; he masquerades as an angel of light; he is the Father of Lies. Heed the Bible's warnings!!!
🙏for spiritual eyes to be opened. 🙏
@@krølle-1 As a physical entity sure, as the manifestation of a concept look no further than the orange usurper.
the devil and his demons can quote scripture too. "you wont surely die"
Good to see this is getting more attention. Most people either don’t know or underestimate how important this has been to sustaining Trump and influencing his actions.
Abolish the Electoral College. 1 person, 1 vote, that's Democracy.
Yes! The Electoral College favors the Repubs. Dems and Independents are SOL.
We must go back to paper ballots & exit polling!
Get rid of the unsafe Dominion(nee Diebold) machines and implement 24 hour surveillance over the entire process with voting day declared a national holiday.
And rank choice voting!
I agree but that's never going to happen. The small rural states are not going to give up their power.
indeed the electoral college was yet another sop to slavery after the compromise of 1789 proves unwieldly. slaves were brought in by the millions. harvesting and refining sugar cane killed 100s of thousands of them.
Which version of Christianity do they want to be the definitive one...Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Episcopal, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Church of Christ, Pentecostal,....etc...etc...
They will fight amongst themselves just like the different sects of Islam. The founding fathers were smart enough to see this from a mile away....Separation of Church and State is the only way a Democracy can function.
It's the mega church way
Marxist one
How about any that preach and try to practice Christian principles as taught by Jesus?
Religious persecution is one reason Europeans came to the U.S.
Those in power permitting their Christian beliefs and prrsecuting those that did not believe as they did.
An Anglican priest laughed about Bible study in schools. He pointed to this question, which sect.?
Even Jesus believed in separation of church and state: "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's".
An interesting point, one I have also used in arguing against Christian nationalism. It's not as strong a point in favour of this though.
For those that might not know or remember the context of this quote from the bible, it refers to Jesus answering a group of Pharisees (who hated Jesus's claims of authority) who were attempting to trap Jesus into saying to which institution should a religious person's money should support. The religious church of the day or Caesar's secular government. Had Jesus simply answered to Caesar then the Pharisees would call out Jesus as a heretic for supporting Caesar's Roman religion instead of the church. If Jesus answered the church, the the Pharisees would claim the same heresy on the grounds that it was unlawful to steal from the government by denying the tax collectors....
It seems the Pharisees were a little too obsessed with ensnaring Jesus and failed to realize the simple logic of division presented here. But is Jesus advocating a non-theocratic government under Caesar (where people were allowed to practice their own religion though sometimes subject to harassment like the Jewish rebellion in 75 AD) or simply acknowledging that it exists as the government and that in order to function within that society one must submit what one must to that authority?
But he also consistently criticized Pharisees and took a stand "politically" to look out for the needy and oppressed.
Wow Tim you sure are proving that Charley picked the right successor! You are knocking it out of the park. Well done !!
16:10 - Thank you Rob Reiner. Project 2025 is how Democracy dies.
Thank you Rob 🫡… For Staying Strong and Speaking Truth to the Archie MAGA Bunkers !
Good description.
Thank you Tim! What a wonderful interview with Rob Reiner and Dan Partland. I’ve been a life long Rob Reiner fan since watching All in the Family back in the 70s!
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”
Barry Goldwater.
They have already taken the GOP over
He may not have cared for them but they sure responded to “Extremism in the name of liberty is no vice.” Now we have a christian Isis in our own land.
AU H2O
@@defendandprotect-om5hv Ba Au H2O (sorry, couldn't resist)
@@defendandprotect-om5hv I was just a kid back then, not old enough to vote but I remember him running.
Thank you Mr. Reiner for being brave enough to call this out from the beginning. I've been warning people since 2015. It was clear to me from the beginning and I never have understood how anyone could fall for the lies. I have learned alot about people from all of this. So much has been revealed and I am grateful for that part.
Norman Lear doesn't deserve the anger the right foments for him. He was incredibly brave serving America in WWII. As a moderate liberal Christian I can't believe how evangelicals and others have fallen for the Limbaugh/Jones demagogues. I watched old friends going gonzo in the 80s listening to Limbaugh and it broke my heart sometimes. They just tore up the Beatitudes and the Gospel commandments with self righteousness.
I was in a bookstore back in about 2003 with my husband, who had a medical condition that was slowly causing him to loose his hearing. We came up on a Rush Limbaugh book, and both or made disparaging comments about Limbaugh. A guy standing nearby jumped on us verbally and say how dare we criticize him when the "poor guy" was going deaf. My husband responded honestly with "I'm going deaf too, but it's not turning me into an asshole". The guy literally didn't know how to respond, and quietly left. A classic response!
Greatest threat our country is facing and it isn't being given as much attention as it should.
A lot of people are ranting.
It is the algorithm. I see on so many videos people commenting "how come no one is talking about this?" After I just watched 50 videos on it. I think it might be that because of their viewing habits that this video is the first they have seen on the subject. Meanwhile, the rest of us have it as half our feeds.
This is a great show. Thank you for helping us understand this movement.
Separation of church and state. This is not unclear.
You’re right is is not unclear. But you should read just the beginning of the 2025 project from the Heritage Foundation. Of course it twists language up into knots, but I was ready for it negating anything LBTQ+ and really anything remotely pro women or viewed as feminist. But then they completely upend the beginning of the Declaration of Independence, stating that Thomas Jefferson didn’t mean what he wrote and that actually he meant the U.S. should be governed by religion. Which of course he did not want as they were throwing off a monarch with a State religion which that monarch headed. It’s terrifying, and it’s not going away anytime soon.
It’s clear throughout the civilised world, not so in the deeply dysfunctional US.
We're going back to the 1950s. A school in Texas is trying to tell kids how long their hair can be... Even Jesus wouldn't get in!!!
There's now an effort to cut Jesus' hair in pictures - I am NOT kidding about this - yes, the same culprits of course
That's the idea.😁
And look how they portray Jesus. He was not white.
I believe Christo-Fascism is a more accurate term.
I don't think it has anything to do with Christ, though - they don't read that part of the NT.
Thank you for bringing this frightening issue to the forefront.
As an athiest, I'm trying very hard to understand this insanity; this was very helpful. Using religion as a ploy to con people is not new; the scale of this cult is unbelievable. I want to know when they drink the ultimate koolaid, break the spell, and the rest of us can go back to normal lives
A fellow atheist who is scared to death of this cult. Can you imagine what these fanatics would do to people like us?
@@sandraadams6204Don't worry. It's likely RFKjr will end up with a surge, and he won't have to rig it.
Have you read Tim Alberta, The Kingdom and the power and the glory yet? Insightful
Dont take this as preaching to you but it has to do with the term faith. And that teaching has been taught by pastors who haven't a clue what it is they are preaching.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen.
What is being explained here is the belief that though everything looks bad right now, eventually we will get through it (though it doesnt feel like it today) and one day we will realize it has come to pass and we no longer have to live in faith because once you have it there is no need to keep holding onto the hope of better days.
So many preachers teach faith is doing something stupid to prove you have faith. Like selling your house to start a business even though you have not thought through how the business you would like to do will work in your area. The real cost of time, energy, education etc. Also if you want to be healed and still taking meds you dont believe. All garbage teaching and the people who are of the faith movement have thrown out wisdom and any common sense they may have had to believe that those of the faith should be following this guy because it is gods will. Crazy huh?
The real faith they are supposed to have is that God was in Jesus reconciling the world to himself because he loves it and is love.
See how faith has been misconstrued?
Hitler used the Catholic Church and the Vatican
Looking on from Australia, i can't tell you how depressing it is to look at what is happening. Glad so many are fighting back💕
For them, it ends with an Islamic State style Christian theocracy.
But the irony is if they could snap their fingers and make their utopia a reality… it would be a nightmare dystopia for everyone except the figures at the top
I worked for 15 years in Islamic countries and I can tell you that there is not a penny's worth of difference between a Christian fanatic and a Muslim fanatic. Same mind set. A fanatic is a fanatic is a fanatic. Keep religion out politics.
@@sandraadams6204 agreed! When ISIS was really taking off I was horrified at how easily people were being radicalized online.
And here we are in 2024 and there’s a fanatic Christian MAGA movement that is radicalizing people in just the same way, with Qanon and social media, etc.
It’s like they took notes from ISIS and chose to apply the same methods
That’s the goal. Magas are delusionally believing they will be in that tier with Donald.
The Republic of Gilead
That's the idea.
I’m 64 yrs old, I grew up in an extended fundamentalist evangelical family (Baptist’s mostly), the late Jerry Falwell Snr was an occasional preacher in our local church so you get the flavor.
I remember as a naive teenager that one of the church elders taught a Bible study course about Dominionism and that Christians must seize control of the levers of power in society and build a ‘Christian Kingdom’. This particular elder was involved in local politics.
So today’s Christian Nationalism is not a new idea but goes back several decades. Slowly but surely the hardliners have been working to take over government at all levels.
This started full-bore in the Reagan era, it's the inevitable conclusion to him allowing what he did.
I'm pretty sure it started in the fifties.
Ultimate irony. DJT does not care about Christianity one way or the other.
Most of the Christian nationalists don’t care about it either.
Most of them have barely read the Bible.
The Anti-Christ wasn't expected to except in as much as it's being used now - to create a tyrranical government.
Agreed. Donald is using White Christian Nationalists to gain their votes.
thats the one good thing about him.
Like I said above, at this point, it is starting to look like the "movement", is using _him._ Remember those behind the scene texts at Fox? I'm betting the same thing is going on here, they'll use him to get them over the finish line, then dump him. Bears keeping in mind, this thing ends the minute these people take power again, so replacing the guy you don't like becomes a much more straight forward process....
Love the BLUE fight for democracy 👍
Great podcast today Tim. Big fan of Rob!! ✊🏿 He captured me as a young kid watch him as Meat Head. Always loved how he would stand up to Archie.
I just realized who he was lol
I wonder if they realize how close their vision is to Iran’s, Afghanistan’s and ISIS‘ vision of how the world should work…
Wow! Y’all did take it to an 11 today. I’ve been listening to more and more podcasts on Christian Nationalism. (Lincoln Project series). I’ll definitely go see “God and Country”.
D.J.T. has already made a pact with the Devil and so its only logical that affluent Christianity is next on the list. 0:39
A fantastic insight to the growing Christian fundamentalist movement in America. I am not affiliated to any faith but my understanding is that any religion teaches you to live as positive a life as possible. Peace, love and care for your fellow man. How did somebody like Donald trump be in a position of being the president and an important leader of the free world. Do Americans really want their lives irrevocably changed? I really hope that you survive this terrifying uprising. Watch the Handmaid's Tale if you havenf already. A terrified UK resident that lives in hope that you all survive.😊
I am for freedom from religion.
A way to control people to do what few want. They just quote scripture but throw out the inconvenient 10 commandments and golden rule.
As a Christian I stand for your right to be free from religion. Everyone must have a choice.
SO AM I . AS WERE OUR FOUNDING FATHERS . Now we have to fight to keep that right .
@@katherinecrossman8521 But we already fought to keep that right. It is a right. What is up with this country having to re-fight all the things we've already gotten. The irony: only white, wealthy men did not have to fight for their rights. The rest of us did. That is the constitution. A bad piece of paper that needs to be rewritten.
The French Revolution was an attempt at outlawing religion or any recognition of a Deity. That would still amount to a persecution. Assuming dominion over another man's faith is fraught with the most dangerous results. I don't care if you want to legislate religion or irreligion. My main question is: "Is Religion a Proper subject of legislation?"
I want to know when and where this movie will be streaming? The sooner the better. I want to share it with a number of people and dragging them to the theater is not a possibility.🇺🇸
I watched it on u tube. Unfit is spot on truth.
Half my so-called Christian family have glommed onto Trump like he's the messiah.
I have the same situation with my neighbors here in Texas. If you confront them about Trump’s actual life of infidelity, debauchery, & bankruptcies, they begin to comprehend the fool to King David- yep, the guy that slew Goliath- & his life of being an “imperfect man.” They *actually believe* this crap!
My church thinks he's persecuted. Ummmmm NO
@@watcher3733 they are just trying to justify their wrong decisions to support him knowing full well what he is by now.
"And many will come in My name saying 'I am He..."
@@watcher3733 Find another Church my friend. Best wishes.
That was a good ! Most people outside the US could see this nightmare coming towards you like a freight train. You did it all to yourselves because you kick every problem down the road and never turn to face it. Finally its coming to bite you on the ASS !!! DO BETTER AMERICA !!!!
Too damn much money running our government! The majority of the population feels like the government isn’t responsive to their needs because the government is busy rewarding their donors! Biden is finally doing things for the middle class, but so many people are so fed up they aren’t giving him a chance. The sad thing is that so many people believe that trump actually gives a crap about them!
We'd.do much better if we stopped letting lawyers take positions of power. They're the most hated profession for obvious reasons.
america has become more backward and more ignorant since 1952.
@@joeybleu66Great. That was the year I was born.
Two people you should never trust: A religious leader who tells you how to vote, and a politician who tells you how to pray.
Amen to that!
There is NO STATE RELIGION IN THE U.S.A., and if we ever allowed this Chrisitan Nationalism we would be forgetting about what happened right here in the 1600's , in what is now the U.S.A., and how persons were tortures and murdered. Jesus wasn't even a Christian.
Absolutely❤
I can add one more person definitely!! His last name should start with a D, (because it USED TO) but it starts with a t.
Amen.
Good discussion, Tim. Thank you 👏👏👏👏👏
As a Christian myself, I am sick to death of the ruin of the true meaning of that word. Please call it what it is: pseudo-Christianity. What kind of a Christian truly believes that a consummate liar can be concerned with God's message to the people? The devil, yes - Jesus, no. What kind of a Christian would be caught up in 91 counts of fraud and betrayal? Judas, maybe - Jesus no. Please set the record straight!!
Actually, if you read the gnostic gospel of Judas, his was an essential role in creating Christianity. If Jesus did not get crucified and resurrected, there would not be a religion called Christianity today. According to this gnostic gospel, Judas was the only disciple who understood his special role and was willing to fulfill his part. All the other disciples denied Jesus and ran away. Think about that. Judas was a hero not a zero. Jesus needed someone to "betray" him so the crucifixion and resurrection could happen. Otherwise, Jesus would just have been another itinerant rabbi saying he was the predicted Jewish Messiah.
Thank you.
These two guests are very necessary to these times! Thanks Tim for another great conversation
As a Christian, let me say THANK YOU for this conversation. Emphasis on CONVERSATION actually. It’s how democracies work!
@10:07 RR says you can’t FORCE others to believe what you think they should believe. I would add to that “Nor would we (Christians) WANT to!” Coercion isn’t love. Which would make such a belief system a falsehood. A lie. Pretty sure Jesus wouldn’t want that : )
And come to think of it, a forced religion would be something a bunch of Christians said they never wanted back in the early 2000s… Sharia Law.
{Not sure if the Religious Right has ever considered that though cause after all, they’re “right”! 😂}
PS
Christian nationalism is literally the opposite of the Bible and the teachings of the Gospels. And following a person whose beliefs are antithetical to that of Jesus in every single way is not Christianity.
Take care and love each other friends…
Your PS is SPOT ON. It’s the absolute core of the discussion. What the Christian Nationalists (Christo-Fascists) are selling is the antithesis of Christianity. It’s laughable how these people use Jesus in every other sentence, but their politics, and in many ways their lives, are the exact OPPOSITE of Christ’s most fundamental teachings.
“A spokesperson for Heaven quoted God as saying:
“I don’t know these people, I’ve never spoken to them,
and I wish they’d stop using my name.”
- Robin Williams, on the Christo-Fascist Evangelical Right and Scamvangelists.
Doesn't a forced religion sound like the kind of situation where "you will not buy or sell" legal doctrines would be implemented?
Food for thought.
Tim, I'd like to see you interview David French and Russell Moore, both of whom appear in the film and have amazing stories regarding what happened to them in their Evangelical circles when they criticized Trump
Maga doesn't like Jesus any more because Jesus is too liberal but orange Jesus is perfect. How we understand that .
We don't.
They're more the fire and brimstone type Christians, and Trump is their Trojan horse.
This is what happens when there's no accountability for these despicable creatures
Coven of congressional criminals.
Lll
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We can never let this happen
I marvel at how you guys sit there and calmly talk about the implications of another Trump presidency under a Christian Nationalist dictatorship and not be in a total panic about life in America.
Proverbs 6:16-19, “These six things the Lord hates, yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
1. A proud look,
2. a lying tongue,
3. hands that shed innocent blood,
4. A heart that devises wicked plans,
5. feet that are swift in running to evil,
6. A false witness who speaks lies,
7. and one who sows discord among brethren.”
Amen!
That verse crosses my mind too. So appropriate. We will know them by their fruit.
_“Religion doesn’t just cloud our minds. It asks us to deliberately deceive ourselves, to replace reason with the opposite: faith. And when men operate on faith, they can no longer be reasoned with, which makes them more dangerous than any sane man, good or evil._ […] _A man without reason is no better than a mad dog, and mad dogs must be put down for the good of everyone.”_ -James L. Sutter, *Death’s Heretic* (2011)
Voting in America is like driving a car: if you want to go _forward,_ select *“D”;* if you want to go _backward,_ select *“R”.* You won't get to a destination, by staying in neutral.
Like Santa and the Easter bunny.
Excellent podcast, Tim. I can't wait to watch this movie. Everyone should.
My father fought in WWII in Europe to stop Fascism. He was involved with the Episcopal Church (as was my mother) all his life. He was a life long Republican. BUT if he were still alive today he would be disgusted with Trump & MAGA and the whole White Christian Nationalist movement.
At one point in time (early 90's) our own local church was taken over by Fundamentalist Evangelicals. He along with other long time members got the Minister (who was a wolf in sheep's clothing) who started the whole mess removed and kicked out of the Episcopal Church. They lost a lot of the congregation, but they got rid of the Fundamentalists and saved the local church.
I know it was a hard time for him and my mother. But I know my father believed in the Constitution, separation of church and state, and democracy first and foremost.
I'm in Canada, and I really want to see this movie. Will wait for when I can.
I’m so sick of being saturated with the Christian mythology and hypocrisy!!
Freedom of religion is the law of the land.
Another great one, Tim! Thanks again.
Vote Blue for a Free America 💙
Free Assange.
@@maryhalverson5713 After the trial, if found not guilty by a jury of his peers.
@@duanebidoux6087 - The great man would never get anything close to a fair trial in the U.S. -- and it's beyond naive to think the independent journalists who are his true peers would be allowed to attend, let alone have a say in the outcome. Only the gussied up corporate-owned hacks who've misreported every aspect of Assange's torturous dilemma would be given access and they are worse than useless.
@@duanebidoux6087
The Great Man would never get a fair trial in the U.S.-- and it's beyond naive to think the independent journalists who are his TRUE PEERS would be given access to the staged farce, let alone have a say in its outcome.
@@duanebidoux6087
My (hardly troublesome) response keeps getting deleted, which just further illustrates how ridiculous it is to think Assange would get a fair trial. This corporate-controlled site's misinformed viewers are to be pitied, because the truth is rolling in like a tsunami and their humiliation is imminent.
Thanks for highlighting this clear and present danger. I don't want the faux preachers to be in charge of anything governmental.
Absolutely sickening. This is such a dark timeline.
My admiration and appreciation for you gentleman is turned up to eleven 💖🙏🕊
When you combine religion and politics, they soon corrupt each other.
Turns into an irrational belief in whatever is easiest.
This is excellent! Thank you for sharing this.
Everyone should learn the difference and see this film.
THIS is EXACTLY what I've been looking for to understand it myself and to share it with everyone to encourage them to learn about it and make genuinely educated decisions and have an educated view when discussing things, especially this year and moving forward.
I truly appreciate them for making this film.
I am an athiest, I have always championed for peoples' religious rights, and now I am scared to death of those very people I used to support..... I am a woman, married to a woman, lived in AZ my whole life and now I am afraid of my neighbors.... Tell me again how trump was/is a good president???? Tell me again how this is what jesus teaches???
Great discussion! Thank you all!
Christianity has done a lot of good in the world. The flip side is, its also been responsible for the deaths of millions.
Love Rob Reiner!
Ephesians 6:12
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
My husband will be thrilled to know Rob Reiner is working on Spinal Tap 2.
I can't wait to see it.
I love Rob! Such a treasure!!!
Thank you Rob the Bulwark is awesome
No shade but it is always wild to see just how much we live in different planes of existence in the same world. In my circle of Black friends we noticed immediately how white, and "Christian" Jan 7 was. My podcast even dubbed it white privilege vs white supremacy. Such a cool reminder how far apart we all can be watching the same events.
To be fair, my circle of friends, white, Black, and everything in between, all said this. It was a pretty common theme right after the 6th, that if the crowd had been Black, they'd have been immediately arrested.
@@FiresCollide or worse
@@complexmindsimpleman6642or horrifically worse. The gallows still is haunting. 🙏🏻🇺🇸⚖️💙🗽
I don't usually click on this subject but I recognized Rob Reiner and remembered him and Carroll O'Connor playing Hoover's man vs. Reiner's Roosevelt man. "Michael" would just destroy Archie's arguments and all he could do was melt down and call him Polack and Meathead. I definitely had relatives that had that pre-WWII isolationist, Hooverism, no "nannystate", no NATO, no trade, etc. attitude. Like Donnie Dump.
A popular phrase in the military is "an attitude of gratitude", be glad for what you get because supply lines etc. So i developed and attitude of forgiveness (myself and others) and an attitude of generosity. I'm not starving or suffering so i spread a little of the wealth. I got these from Anger Management and Anxiety Management classes at the VA clinic.
The modern equivalent of faith, hope, and charity. And i don't have to go to a building every week to pay to be told what a bad person i am. 😢
Uhh…don’t we just have to look to Iran to know how this theocracy playbook ends?
I saw a picture of a young woman in Iran pre 1979 .She was beautiful and fashionable. Wearing a short skirt and make up.Hair down and laughing while blowing out her birthday candles. People who say " that can never happen here " are just wrong. We need to take this very seriously
American Taliban.
So nice to see Rob Reiner here! Gratitude from Canada 🇨🇦 to you all 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙😅
I remember watching some of the rioters praying in the capital loudly as the insurrection was going on and that grossed me out as Christian more then anything. Imagine if Muslim rioters had done that
Way back in the 1960s, my dad told me to go back in history as far as I could. Scriptures, history books on all subjects . Then think about it , and break down every war , no matter how small big or giant , to their lowest common denominator , and you will realize that they ha v e are still fought in the names of God and or greed. That is obvious in the little war started by Republicans. This little war we must fight and win , to keep our constitution, and constitution , is being fought in the names of God and greed . So we have to vote BLUE . And my dad told me as well women and children always suffer the most in war.
That is becoming more evident everyday . I m voting for PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS . I want 2 of my sisters back from trumpy and qanon .
Religion is a tool, like a hammer is a tool. People are killed with hammers. Jesus said that we should love our neighbors, as we love ourselves. He said; 'How can you love God, which you cannot see, yet hate your neighbor, who you have seen?" Jesus criticized the religious establishment of his time. Jesus said that we are all blessed, in his Sermon on the Mount', even the poor as an example.
Show me a "Christian" and I'll most likely show you someone who has never opened a Bible.
White Christian Nationalism and Christianity are two different things tho.
Amazing, I will share this video.
Here’s my theory. There are true believers, but many of them are not among the leadership. I think many billionaires back this ideology for the same reason that slaveholders and lords required slaves and servants to attend church on Sundays to hear sermons on hard work and honesty. Damnation is as strong a coercion as a gulag.
What a privilege, to be able to speak to you, Rob Ryner. And to you, Tim. You are already doing this for us!
You're not voting for Biden you're voting to save the country.
I'm voting for Bobby Kennedy, Jr. - go ahead and laugh - the popular ridicule of him is as disturbing (and telling) as the denial of any secret service protection for him
@@Medina-bk2foBobby is a nut case and an insult to the memory of his father and uncles.
@@Medina-bk2fo
A vote for Bobby is a vote for the orange man
Excellent interview. Can't wait to see this film.
Be it enacted by General Assembly that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of Religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge or affect their civil capacities. - from the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, drafted by Thomas Jefferson in 1777
I've always believed in Tim and am so glad to see him here/now. Tim, you are thoughtful, thorough and a treasure to the Bulwark but I'm sure they know this or we wouldn't be celebrating you right now! God bless, keep safe and take care -- not to mention congrations!
No mention of the great replacement theory and how white Christian nationalists plays in to those fears.
Tim Miller you are doing a fantastic job and I do miss Charlie but he can spend more time with his German Shepherd nowadays! You're slaying it Tim! Great podcasts! Sincerely John Stallings Annapolis Maryland 💙🙂💜
Now didn't the Founding Fathers establish this country to get away from/escape religious presecution/zealots??
Yes.