Hi 1Road I just wanted to let you know that I've been using magnets on the oil filters on a variety of vehicles for over a 30 year period, the fact is that yes it does work, because all engines are wearing parts them selfs and without preventative measures or by chance you don't change your oil and you just keep adding then the outcome is inevitable, you lose your vehicle. By the way I think your doing a fabulous job on your videos in keeping people informed at your expense. Thank you.
Vincent Vader i use magnets on my filter and every time I cut them open for inspection there is evidence inside the filter where the magnets had captured something. Been doing this for a while now and will continue to do so.
Here even though you might have ferrous material on the filter near where the magnets are the oil filter still catches that material. So do it if you want but I'm gonna say it's just a waste of time to put those on and off each time.
I replaced the filter in my automatic transmission just a week ago and guess what I found in the rear of the pan? A strip of magnet about 3/4" wide by about 4" long (one of those plasticky craft-type magnets)... COVERED in very fine ferrous particles. And the fluid was actually quite clean. I'm a believer!
Actually, some people with small motorcycles or mopeds add a magnet or magnets to the bottom to help trigger stop lights to change. If you are at the front at the light and the road sensor is weak it will not pick up the bike.
A tip for making much less of a mess when unscrewing your old oil filter: drill a small hole at the bottom of the filter (or the side if it is mounted at 90°) and let the oil drain out of the filter into the catch pan for a few minutes. Once there is no more drip, you'll be able to unscrew it and not make a mess. The more you know 🏳️🌈
I used to do that on all the big rigs. I’d use my 3/8” center punch and a hammer and let those suckers drain. Huge oil filters like the size of a skinny man’s leg 😂
Water bottle. Cut in in half and slide it over once broken loose. Only works for up/down mounted filters (side mounted aren’t really an issue unless you’re for some reason under them?) Tried it on both mine and my wife’s vehicles… my mind was blown; Like a primitive ancestor realizing rock smash soft stuff
I've seen Scotty make enough stupid mistakes to make me really scratch my head. Good work, dude. Magnets are awesome. I use them. I approve of this message 👍
Mag is good but those are to small. I use one bigger one, I also build engines and drag race for over 10 years, poeple can believe what they want but it's a smart move
Many here ask "What can a magnet do that the filter doesn't do already?". Well, even high-end filters have very limited effectiveness below 20 microns. When it comes to ferrous particles that might be in your oil, a magnet will attract them regardless of how small they might be. In theory, a magnet can capture particles smaller than any practical filter media could. It appears that manufacturers are already putting them on drain plugs, so the idea is already in use.
Always use a high end oil filter with synthetic media when using synthetic oil. They are designed to work together for extended oil change intervals of 5000+ miles.
If the filter is straight up and down I always add some oil to the filter in order to keep from a dry start if the filter has a slight angle u can do that also
ironeagle2526 you can still add oil to a filter that is parallel with the ground without spilling. The filter media does a decent job of keeping the oil absorbed for long enough to turn it a few times on the threads to prevent a mess.
Using magnets on the filter is bad. The more buildup the less flow. You should put them on your pan where the metal settles and the magnet holds the pieces from moving around
Now your talking about a vehicle that is fkd up if it builds up to the point of interfering with oil flow. And yes I put them on my head of my oil plug too because the OEM one is kinda weak after exposed to temps over 170F. and on the pan of my ATF , Transfer case , front and rear diffs too. Being OCD kinda sucks. But I never get questioned when doing any type of job for people that know me. They know I went above and beyond what was expected.
The walls of the oil pan are usually pretty thick, certainly much thicker than the walls of an oil filter. That diffuses the magnetic force, so you're less likely to catch anything. I'd say on the filter is better, it's highly unlikely that the thin spots of metal buildup will effect oil flow in any meaningful way.
I have owned four airplanes, in the middle of the oil pans in each of them... was a magnet, one lO-360, and two TO-360’s, and an O-320. At every oil change we checked the magnet for metal particles and if there was ANYTHING we sent the oil out for analysis.
There are NO oil pans on aircraft engines. None. There is a sump screen you can clean and you should cut the filter open. To get to the inside of the engine you would have to split the case
A bypass oil filter with a low micron works amazing. Semi trucks and heavy duty construction equipment have them. Look into it.....really works. Saves a ton of money and saves the engine.
A message with TLC 4U2; Fram is selling inline fuel filters with magnets built right into the base that holds the internal paper filter. I have "Tried" using these filters in my Automatic Transmission lines into and out of my Dodge Transmission to the front and rear coolers. The filers tend to cause a more restrictive flow of the transmission fluid which forces the connecting lines off the (in and out) hoses. I still feel it is a very good concept and will continue to tinkers appropriately.
In an aviation oil change (on a piston engines), after the oil filter is removed it is cut open with each oil change. The filter element in the filter is unfolded and examined for metal. Every engine "makes metal". The berings will ware and little metal flakes will come off into the oil which is captured by the filter. If the particles are small enough they will not be captured by the filter element. Magnets would catch iron based metals like the copper and steel which are used in bearings.
Great Content Brother, Refreshing a 6.2L with New CAM, lifters, Push Rods, will always be New Micro Metal during Break In, We Use Magnets including Chip Detectors on Critical Engine or Tail Rotors on Military Helicopters Right on Point Brother 👍
Fact: Manufacturers put magnets on the drain plugs and in some cases transmission pans not just to catch ferrous particulates. But it's for the sake of your mechanic to be able and identity potential problems with the motor. Shavings are a tell tale sign of shearing inside the engine. Could be a number of problems but if you catch all those shavings in the filter you will never know when your engine is on its way to catastrophic failure potentially leaving you stranded.
Jimmy, here’s a question. Which way is the oil flowing through your filter? IF it’s flowing past the outside wall first then the magnets will catch any particles (before) it goes through the filter media, therefore not letting the media do it’s job. If the oil is flowing in the in the other direction then I would recommend a better filter with a finer filtering media.. The drain plug makes total sense, it’s at the bottom of the pan where metal particles will settle and there is no filter here. I would love to see Project Farm (PF) do an actual test on this. But I agree with you if it makes you feel better and it’s cheap just do it.. But I didn’t go for the magnet on the fuel line to get better MPG, really? Nothing in fuel is magnetic..
It flows outside in, so not as ideal.... the magnets are a good idea, I'm curious if putting it on the oil pan would work better, but of course you don't remove the oil pan very often.... Maybe better to just get a very good oil filter.
FYI, no need to remove the oil cap to allow the oil to drain faster. There is an oil breath vent connected to your air box. Opening the cap does nothing more then what is already available.
Ima Crazy Guy - you idiot, next time you’re draining your oil, have wifey open the cap and see how much stronger the flow gets with less resistance. Imbecile.
i mean i think its a great idea honestly...whether it has a great effect or doesn't, i really don't see an issue. if you feel they aren't worth it at any point on your filter, well you have a bunch of cool magnets for the fridge or magnetizing screwdrivers and what not....Great Video! cool idea!
Yeah his argument was "What's the worst that can happen?" which is nonsense. I heard if you keep pennies in your pockets, you won't get cancer. What? no it's not snake oil! Pennies cost what, a few cents? What's the worst that can happen?
Charles Boston - you misunderstand, what he is saying is “it can’t hurt.” However, ever recip aircraft engine I know of has a large magnet in the oil pan to catch ferrous metal particles; to protect the engine as well as for diagnostic purposes. I don’t know if that’s proof of concept, proof of application, or proof that the FAA, Continental, and Lycoming have stupid certification requirements. It’s your engine, but when you have the family at 21k feet, you want to be sure you have all the protection available.
@@Arieeeee The point is that it should work _in theory._ Magnets attract ferrous material, fact. Ferrous material is in your oil, fact. Hence a magnet could catch ferrous material from your oil. Since it works in theory it could also work in practice, but even IF it doesn't you haven't lost anything but a few measly dollars. Potential gains, zero risk. Again if magnets do nothing then why do manufacturers include magnets so often? The stock oil drain plug on this car has a magnet FFS.
Another tip with Chevy LS engines. When you change your oil, buy an extra filter and a gallon of wd-40. Drain your oil, put on a new filter, fill the motor with the wd-40 and crank it several times without letting it start. Re-drain the pan if the wd-40 and be amazed what comes out with it. Swap another new filter on and refill with 5w-30 Quaker State oil. This will extend the life of any engine but works great with LS engines with high milage. You'll find cold lifter ticks and knocks eliminated.
I haven't heard of a high-temp resistant mag???? Usually they get weaker with temps exceeding 170 F. I will research the shit outta this and get some ...Thank you sir...
Michaelxcx I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS it removes small particles making things work smoother and last longer changing all the fluids and filters and adding Recommend fluids is a must .here are 5 places you can put them 1 power steering dipstick or resivior 2 transmission drain screw manual or auto 3 fuel lines 4 oil pan drain screw 5 oil filter
I had a 70 Boss 302 Mustang for 10 yrs and the cam went bad. Thank God I had 6 magnets on the top of the heads under the valve covers. I saw the metal dust piled on the magnets. I will never put an engine together again with out magnets. They saved my engine.
Hey Jimmy I have been using magnets on my Chevy 🚒 trucks for a while , l am a ACdelco guy . I had people tell me Oh you don't need to do that , one day when l had some extra time on my hands I decided to cut my filter open an guess what I found on the inside where the magnet was seated a small amount of metal shavings,oh well it's in the filter and not in my motor luv your video brother God bless you
US Navy jet engines have large magnets and a screen that has to be checked as part of a regular Preventive Maintenance System (PMS) check. Particles found in the magnet are reported to the Maintenance Officer and investigated for possible engine failure. Following that practice I have glued/stuck magnets in all my filters, transmission and differential drain plugs, at the bottom of my transmission reservoir pan and replaced the OEM drain plugs with ones with magnets I buy from Autozone or online Ebay. Everytime I change oil I always wipe off a lot of visible shavings with white paper towel and see black smears - that's the shavings taking out of circulation from the oil and engine by the magnets. I saw your other video "Look What A Magnet Did To My Motor!" and there is your proof. I have looked at those smears under a microscope and was shocked at the gnarly shavings. Just imagine those shavings are doing a number on your rotating, sliding or rubbing parts at thousands of RPM per second!!! Friction does not kill your engine, it is the shavings that eat up your parts. Remember when mechanics LAP valves to seat them in? Don't they use grinding compounds to shave and seat the valves? Its the same action with the shavings in your engine. Same action as when you are sharpening a knife on a whetstone with a film of oil. You can find large powerful and cheap magnets in: 1) dead microwave ovens, 2) discarded loudspeakers and 3) discarded ZF Transmission pans which you can remove, clean and add to the new clean pan during a tranny fluid change. Just know that my engines last longer while maintaining high compression and I never had any transmission failure.
I totally agree with you about the magnets. I should know that long time ago. I do whatever I can to keep the engine & transmition in good health for my Chevy astro.
I definitely agree with the 'no harm, no foul' mentality. A couple other filter-related things you could always do: 1. Research the micron ratings (beta ratios) of the filter media. Not all manufacturers advertise this, but if they do, obviously go for the one that has the smallest micron rating. Do your research, though, so you understand how all the numbers work. Some manufacturers will claim micron ratings that are misleading. It means nothing without knowing efficiency. 2. Look into larger/longer filters that can add to your capacity. More fluid = longer life between changes. On my 93 C2500 with a 454, I run a Donaldson B7 or equivalent. For an extra buck, it lets me add another extra quart of oil.
Magnefine makes a magnetic filter base. I've been using one on my harley tc96. Can't say if good but haven't had anything bad to say. I can rave about their in line filters on my transmissions and power steering systems in 3 GM trucks and 1 Ford. I run 2 on GMC 2500hd hydroboost, 1 on each return line. Have 1 on the 4l80e trans in same truck. Dropped the pan at 50,000 to change pickup filter. Otherwise it's been a flush with my BG machine every 30k and an inline magnefine for 328,000 miles. Replaced factory cooler with a large Mishmoto at around 30k also.
The concept of magnets on an engine's oil filter is good science. The problems arise from choosing the WRONG magnets -- which includes the little dime-sized magnets, hard-drive magnets, and other types that are NOT HEAT STABILIZED. Magnets LOSE their holding power when HEATED, so most magnets are nearly worthless as an oil filter booster. The famous 95 MERC has a FILTERMAG # SS365PR installed -- with 11.4 square inches of magnetic holding power, AND it's heat-stabilized to temperatures of -40 F to + 300 F. The FILTERMAG lasts a lifetime, and can be easily transferred to your new oil filter.
I did a 50 service on my Kubota tractor. The HST filter, once I got it off, had a large, ceramic magnet on the inside of the filter meant to catch metal shavings.
Back in the day, VW's used a strong magnetic drain plug with only a coarse mesh filter and they worked very well if one maintained the scheduled engine oil changes. A scheduled valve jobe was set at 75, 000 miles due to one of the rear cylinders was set to run a little cooler. Other than that they lasted a long time. This may sound rather stupid - a friend of mine for who knows why bought a 4 year old VW Bug from another friend of mine and drove it to the west Coast and Vancouver Island and never changed the oil for 25,000 miles before it gave up the ghost. Also, when i was working for a VW repair shop, someone phoned and was in a panic stating that his engine was overheating big time. I told the owner and he told me to tell him to bring it in on a hook. Half an hour later this guy drives up and shows me the engine and believe it or not the crankshaft pulley was wobbling back and forth pretty good. I called the owner( a Master VW mechanic) and he was almost jumping up and down and kinda ticked off with the owner chastising him for driving it to she shop. We immediately shut it down and the owner shook the crankshaft pulley back and forth and stated that the owner had a broken crankshaft and chastised him again. The owner stated that he was working on his engine and was missing a rag. guess where the rag ended up - yep in the fan. Another time yrs later at an automotive shop in the interior we two of us were coming back for a service call a few miles out of town and there was a VW Bug broken down parked along the side of the hwy. We the senior mechanic asked what was wrong a hippy type of guy said that he could not start it as the battery was dead. We were driving a 1 ton flatbed with mobile tools and a 24 volt battery. This Bug had a 6 volt system. guess what - yep u likely guess right. The other mechanic jump started the Bug with 24 volts. I questioned him on the wisdom and he laughed and shrugged it of and said - just watch. He got the owner in the Bug and told him when to hit the starter. Well it started alright but not before spinning over at 2000 + RPM. The owner jumps out waving his arm like madly in a panic - enough, enough he cried out. At first i was amazed that this did not burn out the 6 volt system but it was also quite funny all in all. To this day, I don't know how the 6 volt starter survived as well as anything else that was live. True 1st hand story folks
i use 1 or 2 magnets on the bottom of my filter every time i change it, i don't change the oil just the filter every 20,000 or so. i usually follow the oil change intervals recommended by the manufacturer the first 3 times when i get a new truck then it's just the filter and a top off. On my third Duramax 2500 since 01 and have never had an oil related problem ever and i keep them until they are in the 6 to 7 hundred thousand mile range. i use Amsoil oil filter and there 15-40 to top off.
Are the magnets holding up ok? I heard they lose their magnetism after getting too hot. There are specially rated magnets that can handle high heat, but these harbor freight magnets are probably just the basic ones. So are they still working??
Nice video. So yes it does work. I have a chopper I use it on. Oil tank and tans tank. It’s a little magnet and it pulls a ton of stuff out. It works. I have it on my diesel truck also.
I have a Diesel engine & if I remove any metal from my oil, sign me up! Going to Harbor Freight tomorrow, buy those magnets & put them on! I’m not due for an oil change for another 2K miles but what hell its worth a try. I’ll get back you in about 2 months & then again after that oil change. Thanks for the tip! Btw, I think Scotty Kilmer is a great guy as well!
My Ducati has an OEM magnetic drain plug that could not even lift up the wrench I was using from off the garage floor. I replaced it with a bespoke after market replacement and it suck the wrench right off the garage floor. Chalk and cheese difference and it pulls heaps of ferrous material from the oil.
yes totally interested in what they catch. i have 1 on the fridge that im going to chuck on. i dont really know where to get them here so 1 will do, it is very strong and hard to pull off the fridge
Zinc is a required addition to older model engines. It’s can become slightly magnetic if exposed to a strong magnets. You need zinc in these older engines to maintain the metal to metal surfaces.
I get the free magnetic tool holder, when I take it apart and has about eight rectangular magnets. They are bigger than the rare earth magnets, however they are free. BTW. Love the wheels. I put a set on my 2000 Chevy Silverado years ago!
Oil filter is there to catch all the dirt from the engine such as metal particles. Adding magnets on oil filter could help catching those tiny metal particles even better. That is the benefit of having magnets on it. Bad side of having magnets on oil filter is preventing engine damage and making your mechanic even poor 🤣 so far i didnt saw any science video regarding magnet on oil filter with positive or negative outcome. Anyway nice video and presentation. Keep up with awesome work you do.
Block is actually the minimum. There's the sleeves, camshaft, crankshaft, timing sprockets and chains, and a bunch of other parts that still produce magnetic particles.
I would use magnets as more of a means of collecting the ferrous material to inspect during the PM to determine if there is any component prematurely failing.
I use magnets on oil filter and some big ones on bottom of the oil pan... I feelt the diffrence instant, is just much "smoother", Best "hack" I ever made
I did it and i extended my oil by a long shot i don't have to change my oil no every so often now with this trick. Try it it works it extends the life of the oil to where you might forget to change your oil lol but seriously it works i do this every time i change my oil and later on in the day my car performs like a dream keeps the oil clean and tidy and keeps the power of the engine at its highest peak even you'll notice a difference in the first day you drive trust me awesome trick and it works and i love it
An interesting thought. Could be more interesting to see one of those used filter without magnetic inside, and another with magnetic. Just cause. Even it is catching anything, might he so small we can't even see, but hey, if it's visible, it would a huge eye opener.
When you cut an Oil Filter open that has had magnets attached, the particle residue is easily seen, because the tiny particles gather together to form a sort of "paste" at the place that the magnets were attached. If any of these filter-cutting monkeys uses a Die-Grinder to cut 'em open -- IGNORE THE FINDINGS -- they are compromised.
Putting magnets in or on the oil pans, trans pans, drain plugs, etc., could catch various ferrous materials that are suspended in the motor oil. However, what you are forgetting is that the oil filter is pressurized. The oil is coming into the filter pressurized and leaving pressurized. In some cases the pressure can exceed 40-60 psi depending on the vehicle, and the filtration design. If the filter is working properly most of the paritals would be caught by the filter material. If the filter becomes plugged because of too much dirt and particulates they usually have a pressure relief valve that opens to prevent the engine from starving for oil. When that valve opens it almost like having no filtration or very little filtration. Let's say the ferrous material is microscopic and could pass through the filter element then the magnets on the outside seem like a good idea but because the filter is pressurized they would still most likely be dislodged from the pressure and pass though the filter. For magnets to work on the outside of the filter you would have to have an extremely powerful magnet that could hold the tiny particals in place. The smaller the particals the less area they have to stick or stay in the magnetic field if disrupted by the pressurized oil. Image a garden hose with no nozzle, its not very efficient at removing dirt and particulates. However, put your thumb over the hose end and the dirt and particulates are washed away. The same principles happens here. You would do better if you had a double filtration system. Not only would it filter ferrous materials but it would filter dirt, dust, and varoius other particulates that are sucked in and make their way past the air filteration systems.
I’ve always wanted to glue some magnets to the outside of my oil pan right under the oil pick up tube. That way I’m not fighting pressure inside the filter or oil galleries inside the engine.
I do believe he said "Earth" magnets, those are extremely strong magnets. If I'm not mistaken, they are the same type of magnets used in computer hard drives. I've "heard" of people using those (hard drive magnets about the size of 4 of these little ones combined) to stash good sized caliber "tools" securely on to vehicle frames worry free of them falling somewhere. People who drive like maniacs on the freeway, over speed bumps, you name it.
Pressure and flow are not the same thing! Pressure doesn't make flow! This is the same logic as Volts and Amps Volts = Speed, Amps = Pressure Volts is equivalent to Horse power Amps is equivalent to Tourqe
@@KRich408 I think you missed the analogy and mostly the carparison of the oil sitting in the sump/pan area as oppose to oil flowing through the oil filter which has been pressurized by the oil pump. Study after study has shown that some oil filters can be a swirling vortex. Yes, there is pressure and flow. Several automobile institutions and universities have examined bearing and babbet materials to see what has imbedded itself into the various bearing materials and the greater problem wasn't always metal particals but other materials such as dust that was nearly as hard as diamonds. A few studies have even claimed to find substances thought to be meteor dust. The point is... a better filtration system or dual filters would serve better at protecting the engine then mere magnets alone, because it (better filtration) would catch both metallic particals ferrous and non ferrous (such as aluminum piston material). It would also catch dust and extremely hard particals that would grind and damage engine components, while a magnet would have no effect at all on non metallic particals.
The only thing I do differently from you is I use a filter mag, which is curved and goes around half of the filter, instead of those 2 dozen rare earth magnets that you bought at harbor freight.
You really need to do an oil analysis to answer this question. Circulating ferrous particles drop by ~50% when you use a magnet. Surprisingly adding more magnets doesn't seem to reduce ferrous metals noticeably. Fe is usually one of the main contaminants in oil... so reducing it by ~50% is worth doing. Engine noise is often noticeably reduced after adding a magnet. Less noise means less friction, less wear and more power. Less particles in the oil means a longer oil and additive lifespan. A magnetic sump plug can be used to measure wear in the engine e.g. Which oils, oil additives, etc... work best and to warn of potential problems. It's much harder to do if you put your magnets only on the oil filter. For the minor price a magnet is a no-brainer. 🙂 P.S. You should have shown a close-up of the sump plug magnet to demonstrate that it's catching ferrous particles. A lot of people responding don't seem to realise how much metal is caught by magnets. That's why a lot of factory sump plugs and most transmissions include a magnet.
I used elmers glue to stick a neodymium magnet onto the oil pan of my Bugatti Chiron, It caught a VW Jetta that was floating around in the oil. 10/10 Will use again.
i do it on my old jeep and i cut the filter open and there was sum kind of metallic stuff where the magnets were sitting so they do work ps i also used a oil filter opener to get the filer open
If you already have an OEM magnetic drain plug; save yourself the cost of extra magnets and buy yourself some beers to celebrate a successful oil change. 😂 #dontdrinkanddrive #drinkresponsibly Scotty is the man!!!
Also scientifically, the magnets work in attracting ferrous metal particles. BUT you never mentioned microns. The filter element catches particles that are up to a certain micron which any smaller particles that may flow thru the filter are deemed non threatening to the pump and cavities. I do believe if you are experiencing metal shavings or particulates then regardless of the filter or magnet, something is eating it self beyond the point of salvaging filter or no filter
You look thinner why and when was your last good check up and listen to your body?? Come on guys Scotty is cool he has given many of us good advise. 💯👍🏼
this test is very interesting, but for more results you can send any example of oil at laboratory and examine the part oil, before and after you install the magnects
Anybody watching this video please don't use the filter wrench to TIGHTEN the filter on. I have seen many vehicles get towed into garages because someone used a filter wrench to put their filter on then couldn't get it back off. They generally end up poking a hole through the filter in an attempt to get it off then can't even drive the car in to a garage to get it fixed. Follow the instructions and only make it finger tight plus a half turn for just enough compression to seat the rubber gasket and ensure that it doesn't come off.
There is a round magnet up laying inside most transmission pans also and they do not catch everything as the pan is usually coated in debris as is the magnet inside the pans.. They try to claim oh it doesn't need serviced at all so it ensures future repairs due to not being serviced.magnets will only catch a small amount! Always service transmissions at 60-100k no matter what a dealer or sales person claims.Running the same fluid past 100k ensures failure! conventional or synthetic fluid
Good idea with the magnets! But definitely NO need for magnets on the filter. The sump is a Better spot and the manufacturers have been doing it for years It’s a FILTER and it doesn’t need extra help from your little magnets, it’s already designed to catch that crap in your oil, if you replace it every service you won’t have a problem.
Its a great idea and I have been doing this for my engine oil filter and my transmission spin on filter with the custom trans oil cooler. I use neodymium magnets by the way... 👍
If you put the magnets on the oil pan, how are you supposed to remove any metal particles that have been removed from the oil without removing the oil pan, Einstein? Therefore, the magnets on the oil filter is a much better choice.
If you wrap an insulated copper wire around the oil filter and hold each end of the wire to a battery for a few seconds, it will magnetize the entire filter
I say slap one of those 200lbs holding magnets right besides your drain plug, right at the bottom. Right before you drian your oil pull it off and hopefully those metals will get drained as nothing is holding them anymore. This will only work if your pan is metal though. That Tahoe looked aluminium. You could glue a metal tab there then stick the magnet to it. I dont think the magnets would hurt on the filter but it is a high flow and pressure area and likely the metal will not hold when the pressures are 50-100psi sometimes at high way rpms.
I have been using rare earth magnets for a long time in the axles. Trans. And transfer cases along with the motor . i race .play with mud trucks. . they work
love the idea..but magnet don't last if expose to high temperature, they will loose their magnetism and fall off... especially the rare earth magnets...
Totally false. They work for a fact . I use the N52 REM about the size of a 50 cent piece . They can pick up 30 lbs. no problem. Use a pipe cutter after your oil and filter change, cut it open and look where your magnets are...its like a little tiny pile of powder. When you move the magnets around , it will drag the fine powder of metal around the inside .... It works for real. People who never have done something will tell you that its wrong even though you've been doing it because of hands on experience....I know if I say something to dispute someone , its because I have studied and researched the shit out of it before I open my mouth spewing out a bunch BS. Times have changed. While growing up I was taught , If you don't know for a fact , don't act like you know. Because your word reflects what type of man you are.....And after time your drain plug magnet gets weaker because of its weakness/flaw of being exposed to temps over 170 degrees F.
Well said Mr. LL, Using Magnets on a filter can in fact extend the life of an engine 3-5 times as proven by oil analysis using the APC Particle Count Test method. It counts the particles by size and weight. The particle count test using an optical particle counter of a used oil sample actually counts the particles in each ml of oil. You can math out the total particles by numbers and weight by multiplying by the sump volume. The test counts the particles by size in each category, (ie) 4 microns, 6 microns, 14 microns, 50 microns, 100 microns. The difference in using magnets and not using magnets can in fact reduce particle counts by up to three ISO codes. The particle counts double for each increase change in one ISO Codes. So reducing the particle count by three ISO codes by using the magnets reduces the particle counts in the oil by four times. This correlates to extended engine life of four times by plotting on a logarithmic graph.
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Hi 1Road I just wanted to let you know that I've been using magnets on the oil filters on a variety of vehicles for over a 30 year period, the fact is that yes it does work, because all engines are wearing parts them selfs and without preventative measures or by chance you don't change your oil and you just keep adding then the outcome is inevitable, you lose your vehicle. By the way I think your doing a fabulous job on your videos in keeping people informed at your expense. Thank you.
I put a magnet on my engine block to catch any stray connecting rods.
Ha, Ha, Ha.
Oh so you drive a Subaru
good one, actually made me lol
Lmfao!
I swallow magnets to make me more attractive
Why not cut the filter open after the next oil change to see of the magnets are holding any material?
Vincent Vader i use magnets on my filter and every time I cut them open for inspection there is evidence inside the filter where the magnets had captured something. Been doing this for a while now and will continue to do so.
@@brianbeck3628 it means you have a issue with the engine oil you use and it's not doing a good job
'@punker4real, even with oil, friction wear takes place nothing lasts for ever. If there was no wear no one would buy new cars.
Here even though you might have ferrous material on the filter near where the magnets are the oil filter still catches that material. So do it if you want but I'm gonna say it's just a waste of time to put those on and off each time.
punker4Real every engine ever made does this. It is normal. Even the engines in your vehicles.
Zip lock bag around the filter before you completely loosen it, would definitely prevent much of the mess you made when removing the filter.
Not always the case but I will remember this trick
I replaced the filter in my automatic transmission just a week ago and guess what I found in the rear of the pan? A strip of magnet about 3/4" wide by about 4" long (one of those plasticky craft-type magnets)... COVERED in very fine ferrous particles. And the fluid was actually quite clean. I'm a believer!
I have a 250lb fishing magnet on my filter. Last week, at a stop light I was over a man hole cover and picked it up, dragging it for 1000feet
Actually, some people with small motorcycles or mopeds add a magnet or magnets to the bottom to help trigger stop lights to change. If you are at the front at the light and the road sensor is weak it will not pick up the bike.
@@solarsynapse excellent trick
No chance that actually happened
I pulled up beside the police station evidence room and my magnet erased every hard drive in the room
A tip for making much less of a mess when unscrewing your old oil filter: drill a small hole at the bottom of the filter (or the side if it is mounted at 90°) and let the oil drain out of the filter into the catch pan for a few minutes. Once there is no more drip, you'll be able to unscrew it and not make a mess. The more you know 🏳️🌈
Or just poke a screw oil filter in the bottom
I used to do that on all the big rigs. I’d use my 3/8” center punch and a hammer and let those suckers drain. Huge oil filters like the size of a skinny man’s leg 😂
Water bottle.
Cut in in half and slide it over once broken loose.
Only works for up/down mounted filters (side mounted aren’t really an issue unless you’re for some reason under them?)
Tried it on both mine and my wife’s vehicles… my mind was blown; Like a primitive ancestor realizing rock smash soft stuff
I've seen Scotty make enough stupid mistakes to make me really scratch my head. Good work, dude. Magnets are awesome. I use them. I approve of this message 👍
Mag is good but those are to small. I use one bigger one, I also build engines and drag race for over 10 years, poeple can believe what they want but it's a smart move
Many here ask "What can a magnet do that the filter doesn't do already?". Well, even high-end filters have very limited effectiveness below 20 microns. When it comes to ferrous particles that might be in your oil, a magnet will attract them regardless of how small they might be. In theory, a magnet can capture particles smaller than any practical filter media could. It appears that manufacturers are already putting them on drain plugs, so the idea is already in use.
Always use a high end oil filter with synthetic media when using synthetic oil. They are designed to work together for extended oil change intervals of 5000+ miles.
If the filter is straight up and down I always add some oil to the filter in order to keep from a dry start if the filter has a slight angle u can do that also
ironeagle2526 you can still add oil to a filter that is parallel with the ground without spilling. The filter media does a decent job of keeping the oil absorbed for long enough to turn it a few times on the threads to prevent a mess.
Just did the same thing this past Monday
Fill the filter with oil the night before the oil change to let the oil soak into the filter media.
Using magnets on the filter is bad. The more buildup the less flow. You should put them on your pan where the metal settles and the magnet holds the pieces from moving around
Now your talking about a vehicle that is fkd up if it builds up to the point of interfering with oil flow. And yes I put them on my head of my oil plug too because the OEM one is kinda weak after exposed to temps over 170F. and on the pan of my ATF , Transfer case , front and rear diffs too. Being OCD kinda sucks. But I never get questioned when doing any type of job for people that know me. They know I went above and beyond what was expected.
The walls of the oil pan are usually pretty thick, certainly much thicker than the walls of an oil filter. That diffuses the magnetic force, so you're less likely to catch anything. I'd say on the filter is better, it's highly unlikely that the thin spots of metal buildup will effect oil flow in any meaningful way.
Won't work on aluminum oil pan.
Hybrids Vader I’m sure some sort of tape or adhesive could work.
What I found helps is punching a hole in the bottom of the oil filter before removing. Oil drains out and there is no mess when unscrewing.
I've seen electronic magnets installed on very inexpensive electronic mechanical devices....thay work FANTASTIC...👍
I have owned four airplanes, in the middle of the oil pans in each of them... was a magnet, one lO-360, and two TO-360’s, and an O-320. At every oil change we checked the magnet for metal particles and if there was ANYTHING we sent the oil out for analysis.
There are NO oil pans on aircraft engines. None. There is a sump screen you can clean and you should cut the filter open. To get to the inside of the engine you would have to split the case
@@dslade353 yeah yeah fine… sump… oil pan… the widget at the bottom where the oil is.
A bypass oil filter with a low micron works amazing.
Semi trucks and heavy duty construction equipment have them.
Look into it.....really works.
Saves a ton of money and saves the engine.
A message with TLC 4U2; Fram is selling inline fuel filters with magnets built right into the base that holds the internal paper filter. I have "Tried" using these filters in my Automatic Transmission lines into and out of my Dodge Transmission to the front and rear coolers.
The filers tend to cause a more restrictive flow of the transmission fluid which forces the connecting lines off the (in and out) hoses.
I still feel it is a very good concept and will continue to tinkers appropriately.
In an aviation oil change (on a piston engines), after the oil filter is removed it is cut open with each oil change. The filter element in the filter is unfolded and examined for metal. Every engine "makes metal". The berings will ware and little metal flakes will come off into the oil which is captured by the filter. If the particles are small enough they will not be captured by the filter element. Magnets would catch iron based metals like the copper and steel which are used in bearings.
Copper??? magnets don't catch copper?
airlui our copper no but the alloys used in engines are
Has another TH-camr said, I would highly suggest also cutting the filter open to see if any metal has collected.
It’s a “bedazzeled” oil filter.. that’s a lot of bling! 😜
Great Content Brother, Refreshing a 6.2L with New CAM, lifters, Push Rods, will always be New Micro Metal during Break In, We Use Magnets including Chip Detectors on Critical Engine or Tail Rotors on Military Helicopters
Right on Point Brother 👍
Fact: Manufacturers put magnets on the drain plugs and in some cases transmission pans not just to catch ferrous particulates. But it's for the sake of your mechanic to be able and identity potential problems with the motor. Shavings are a tell tale sign of shearing inside the engine. Could be a number of problems but if you catch all those shavings in the filter you will never know when your engine is on its way to catastrophic failure potentially leaving you stranded.
Good point!!! Thanks for adding to the conversation!!
Jimmy, here’s a question. Which way is the oil flowing through your filter? IF it’s flowing past the outside wall first then the magnets will catch any particles (before) it goes through the filter media, therefore not letting the media do it’s job. If the oil is flowing in the in the other direction then I would recommend a better filter with a finer filtering media.. The drain plug makes total sense, it’s at the bottom of the pan where metal particles will settle and there is no filter here.
I would love to see Project Farm (PF) do an actual test on this. But I agree with you if it makes you feel better and it’s cheap just do it.. But I didn’t go for the magnet on the fuel line to get better MPG, really? Nothing in fuel is magnetic..
It flows outside in, so not as ideal.... the magnets are a good idea, I'm curious if putting it on the oil pan would work better, but of course you don't remove the oil pan very often.... Maybe better to just get a very good oil filter.
You know I've been a mechanic 25 years never thought of this I believe your right very smart idea I'm gonna try it what's there to lose.
FYI, no need to remove the oil cap to allow the oil to drain faster. There is an oil breath vent connected to your air box. Opening the cap does nothing more then what is already available.
Ima Crazy Guy - you idiot, next time you’re draining your oil, have wifey open the cap and see how much stronger the flow gets with less resistance. Imbecile.
i mean i think its a great idea honestly...whether it has a great effect or doesn't, i really don't see an issue. if you feel they aren't worth it at any point on your filter, well you have a bunch of cool magnets for the fridge or magnetizing screwdrivers and what not....Great Video! cool idea!
way to much talking with absolutely zero proof to back up what your saying .........
Yeah his argument was "What's the worst that can happen?" which is nonsense. I heard if you keep pennies in your pockets, you won't get cancer. What? no it's not snake oil! Pennies cost what, a few cents? What's the worst that can happen?
@@Arieeeee Here's what they don't say: a penny saved is a minute wasted. Now get back to work - collecting plated zinc will get you nowhere.
@@flinch622 What? You do realize that I'm pointing out that the logic in both cases is flawed.
Charles Boston - you misunderstand, what he is saying is “it can’t hurt.” However, ever recip aircraft engine I know of has a large magnet in the oil pan to catch ferrous metal particles; to protect the engine as well as for diagnostic purposes. I don’t know if that’s proof of concept, proof of application, or proof that the FAA, Continental, and Lycoming have stupid certification requirements. It’s your engine, but when you have the family at 21k feet, you want to be sure you have all the protection available.
@@Arieeeee The point is that it should work _in theory._ Magnets attract ferrous material, fact. Ferrous material is in your oil, fact. Hence a magnet could catch ferrous material from your oil. Since it works in theory it could also work in practice, but even IF it doesn't you haven't lost anything but a few measly dollars. Potential gains, zero risk. Again if magnets do nothing then why do manufacturers include magnets so often? The stock oil drain plug on this car has a magnet FFS.
Another tip with Chevy LS engines.
When you change your oil, buy an extra filter and a gallon of wd-40. Drain your oil, put on a new filter, fill the motor with the wd-40 and crank it several times without letting it start. Re-drain the pan if the wd-40 and be amazed what comes out with it. Swap another new filter on and refill with 5w-30 Quaker State oil. This will extend the life of any engine but works great with LS engines with high milage. You'll find cold lifter ticks and knocks eliminated.
I use a high-temp resistant magnet on the drain plug and it does catch some material.
I haven't heard of a high-temp resistant mag???? Usually they get weaker with temps exceeding 170 F. I will research the shit outta this and get some ...Thank you sir...
Being in the IT business I have a good sized collection of hard drive magnets. They work great for this application.
Absolutely- when ever My Seagate drives die which I is frequently I Tear them apart and get the two rare earth magnets out!
How do you get the magnet off the metal plate that they are stick to? Is that some sort of super glue that they are stuck with?
@@Billy123bobzzz A magnet stuck with superglue? How do you think a magnet sticks to metal? Is this your attempt at joking?
@@ApartmentKing66 I have a drawer full of magnets glued to metal backing plates, go ask your high school science teacher ho glue works.
Michaelxcx I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS it removes small particles making things work smoother and last longer changing all the fluids and filters and adding Recommend fluids is a must .here are 5 places you can put them
1 power steering dipstick or resivior
2 transmission drain screw manual or auto
3 fuel lines
4 oil pan drain screw
5 oil filter
I had a 70 Boss 302 Mustang for 10 yrs and the cam went bad. Thank God I had 6 magnets on the top of the heads under the valve covers. I saw the metal dust piled on the magnets. I will never put an engine together again with out magnets. They saved my engine.
Hey Jimmy I have been using magnets on my Chevy 🚒 trucks for a while , l am a ACdelco guy . I had people tell me Oh you don't need to do that , one day when l had some extra time on my hands I decided to cut my filter open an guess what I found on the inside where the magnet was seated a small amount of metal shavings,oh well it's in the filter and not in my motor luv your video brother God bless you
US Navy jet engines have large magnets and a screen that has to be checked as part of a regular Preventive Maintenance System (PMS) check. Particles found in the magnet are reported to the Maintenance Officer and investigated for possible engine failure. Following that practice I have glued/stuck magnets in all my filters, transmission and differential drain plugs, at the bottom of my transmission reservoir pan and replaced the OEM drain plugs with ones with magnets I buy from Autozone or online Ebay. Everytime I change oil I always wipe off a lot of visible shavings with white paper towel and see black smears - that's the shavings taking out of circulation from the oil and engine by the magnets. I saw your other video "Look What A Magnet Did To My Motor!" and there is your proof. I have looked at those smears under a microscope and was shocked at the gnarly shavings.
Just imagine those shavings are doing a number on your rotating, sliding or rubbing parts at thousands of RPM per second!!!
Friction does not kill your engine, it is the shavings that eat up your parts. Remember when mechanics LAP valves to seat them in? Don't they use grinding compounds to shave and seat the valves? Its the same action with the shavings in your engine. Same action as when you are sharpening a knife on a whetstone with a film of oil.
You can find large powerful and cheap magnets in: 1) dead microwave ovens, 2) discarded loudspeakers and 3) discarded ZF Transmission pans which you can remove, clean and add to the new clean pan during a tranny fluid change. Just know that my engines last longer while maintaining high compression and I never had any transmission failure.
I totally agree with you about the magnets. I should know that long time ago. I do whatever I can to keep the engine & transmition in good health for my Chevy astro.
I definitely agree with the 'no harm, no foul' mentality. A couple other filter-related things you could always do: 1. Research the micron ratings (beta ratios) of the filter media. Not all manufacturers advertise this, but if they do, obviously go for the one that has the smallest micron rating. Do your research, though, so you understand how all the numbers work. Some manufacturers will claim micron ratings that are misleading. It means nothing without knowing efficiency. 2. Look into larger/longer filters that can add to your capacity. More fluid = longer life between changes. On my 93 C2500 with a 454, I run a Donaldson B7 or equivalent. For an extra buck, it lets me add another extra quart of oil.
I used to put a speaker's magnet under my oil sump.
Great magnets to do that with!! I have a couple of old speakers I will use that for!!
I don't know if the magnets help or not ,but by the look of the oil at the filter i would say it well overdue for a oil change.
what you are saying is common sense, and it can't only help, almost no cost, yea you made me a believer.
Magnefine makes a magnetic filter base. I've been using one on my harley tc96. Can't say if good but haven't had anything bad to say. I can rave about their in line filters on my transmissions and power steering systems in 3 GM trucks and 1 Ford. I run 2 on GMC 2500hd hydroboost, 1 on each return line. Have 1 on the 4l80e trans in same truck. Dropped the pan at 50,000 to change pickup filter. Otherwise it's been a flush with my BG machine every 30k and an inline magnefine for 328,000 miles. Replaced factory cooler with a large Mishmoto at around 30k also.
The concept of magnets on an engine's oil filter is good science.
The problems arise from choosing the WRONG magnets -- which includes the little dime-sized magnets, hard-drive magnets, and other types that are NOT HEAT STABILIZED.
Magnets LOSE their holding power when HEATED, so most magnets are nearly worthless as an oil filter booster.
The famous 95 MERC has a FILTERMAG # SS365PR installed -- with 11.4 square inches of magnetic holding power, AND it's heat-stabilized to temperatures of -40 F to + 300 F.
The FILTERMAG lasts a lifetime, and can be easily transferred to your new oil filter.
I did a 50 service on my Kubota tractor. The HST filter, once I got it off, had a large, ceramic magnet on the inside of the filter meant to catch metal shavings.
Back in the day, VW's used a strong magnetic drain plug with only a coarse mesh filter and they worked very well if one maintained the scheduled engine oil changes. A scheduled valve jobe was set at 75, 000 miles due to one of the rear cylinders was set to run a little cooler. Other than that they lasted a long time. This may sound rather stupid - a friend of mine for who knows why bought a 4 year old VW Bug from another friend of mine and drove it to the west Coast and Vancouver Island and never changed the oil for 25,000 miles before it gave up the ghost. Also, when i was working for a VW repair shop, someone phoned and was in a panic stating that his engine was overheating big time. I told the owner and he told me to tell him to bring it in on a hook. Half an hour later this guy drives up and shows me the engine and believe it or not the crankshaft pulley was wobbling back and forth pretty good. I called the owner( a Master VW mechanic) and he was almost jumping up and down and kinda ticked off with the owner chastising him for driving it to she shop. We immediately shut it down and the owner shook the crankshaft pulley back and forth and stated that the owner had a broken crankshaft and chastised him again. The owner stated that he was working on his engine and was missing a rag. guess where the rag ended up - yep in the fan. Another time yrs later at an automotive shop in the interior we two of us were coming back for a service call a few miles out of town and there was a VW Bug broken down parked along the side of the hwy. We the senior mechanic asked what was wrong a hippy type of guy said that he could not start it as the battery was dead. We were driving a 1 ton flatbed with mobile tools and a 24 volt battery. This Bug had a 6 volt system. guess what - yep u likely guess right. The other mechanic jump started the Bug with 24 volts. I questioned him on the wisdom and he laughed and shrugged it of and said - just watch. He got the owner in the Bug and told him when to hit the starter. Well it started alright but not before spinning over at 2000 + RPM. The owner jumps out waving his arm like madly in a panic - enough, enough he cried out. At first i was amazed that this did not burn out the 6 volt system but it was also quite funny all in all. To this day, I don't know how the 6 volt starter survived as well as anything else that was live. True 1st hand story folks
i use 1 or 2 magnets on the bottom of my filter every time i change it, i don't change the oil just the filter every 20,000 or so. i usually follow the oil change intervals recommended by the manufacturer the first 3 times when i get a new truck then it's just the filter and a top off. On my third Duramax 2500 since 01 and have never had an oil related problem ever and i keep them until they are in the 6 to 7 hundred thousand mile range. i use Amsoil oil filter and there 15-40 to top off.
Did you cut the filter open afterwards to see if the magnets helped?
Are the magnets holding up ok? I heard they lose their magnetism after getting too hot. There are specially rated magnets that can handle high heat, but these harbor freight magnets are probably just the basic ones. So are they still working??
Nice video. So yes it does work. I have a chopper I use it on. Oil tank and tans tank. It’s a little magnet and it pulls a ton of stuff out. It works. I have it on my diesel truck also.
I have a Diesel engine & if I remove any metal from my oil, sign me up! Going to Harbor Freight tomorrow, buy those magnets & put them on! I’m not due for an oil change for another 2K miles but what hell its worth a try. I’ll get back you in about 2 months & then again after that oil change. Thanks for the tip! Btw, I think Scotty Kilmer is a great guy as well!
Been doing this for years it works, make a video cutting the filter open see how much crap they catch!
My Ducati has an OEM magnetic drain plug that could not even lift up the wrench I was using from off the garage floor. I replaced it with a bespoke after market replacement and it suck the wrench right off the garage floor. Chalk and cheese difference and it pulls heaps of ferrous material from the oil.
yes totally interested in what they catch. i have 1 on the fridge that im going to chuck on. i dont really know where to get them here so 1 will do, it is very strong and hard to pull off the fridge
Zinc is a required addition to older model engines. It’s can become slightly magnetic if exposed to a strong magnets. You need zinc in these older engines to maintain the metal to metal surfaces.
I get the free magnetic tool holder, when I take it apart and has about eight rectangular magnets. They are bigger than the rare earth magnets, however they are free.
BTW. Love the wheels. I put a set on my 2000 Chevy Silverado years ago!
Oil filter is there to catch all the dirt from the engine such as metal particles. Adding magnets on oil filter could help catching those tiny metal particles even better. That is the benefit of having magnets on it. Bad side of having magnets on oil filter is preventing engine damage and making your mechanic even poor 🤣 so far i didnt saw any science video regarding magnet on oil filter with positive or negative outcome. Anyway nice video and presentation. Keep up with awesome work you do.
Block is actually the minimum.
There's the sleeves, camshaft, crankshaft, timing sprockets and chains, and a bunch of other parts that still produce magnetic particles.
I would use magnets as more of a means of collecting the ferrous material to inspect during the PM to determine if there is any component prematurely failing.
I use magnets on oil filter and some big ones on bottom of the oil pan... I feelt the diffrence instant, is just much "smoother", Best "hack" I ever made
"Those magnets are working excellent"...........LMAO!
That was Hilarious!
I did it and i extended my oil by a long shot i don't have to change my oil no every so often now with this trick. Try it it works it extends the life of the oil to where you might forget to change your oil lol but seriously it works i do this every time i change my oil and later on in the day my car performs like a dream keeps the oil clean and tidy and keeps the power of the engine at its highest peak even you'll notice a difference in the first day you drive trust me awesome trick and it works and i love it
YOU'RE THE MAN! UR GREAT! KEEP IT UP SCIENTIST!
Rare earth magnet is FREE, I just opened up an old hard drive, which has 2 very strong rare earth magnets inside.
The hard drive wasnt free.......
An interesting thought. Could be more interesting to see one of those used filter without magnetic inside, and another with magnetic. Just cause. Even it is catching anything, might he so small we can't even see, but hey, if it's visible, it would a huge eye opener.
When you cut an Oil Filter open that has had magnets attached, the particle residue is easily seen, because the tiny particles gather together to form a sort of "paste" at the place that the magnets were attached.
If any of these filter-cutting monkeys uses a Die-Grinder to cut 'em open -- IGNORE THE FINDINGS -- they are compromised.
Putting magnets in or on the oil pans, trans pans, drain plugs, etc., could catch various ferrous materials that are suspended in the motor oil. However, what you are forgetting is that the oil filter is pressurized. The oil is coming into the filter pressurized and leaving pressurized. In some cases the pressure can exceed 40-60 psi depending on the vehicle, and the filtration design. If the filter is working properly most of the paritals would be caught by the filter material. If the filter becomes plugged because of too much dirt and particulates they usually have a pressure relief valve that opens to prevent the engine from starving for oil. When that valve opens it almost like having no filtration or very little filtration. Let's say the ferrous material is microscopic and could pass through the filter element then the magnets on the outside seem like a good idea but because the filter is pressurized they would still most likely be dislodged from the pressure and pass though the filter. For magnets to work on the outside of the filter you would have to have an extremely powerful magnet that could hold the tiny particals in place. The smaller the particals the less area they have to stick or stay in the magnetic field if disrupted by the pressurized oil. Image a garden hose with no nozzle, its not very efficient at removing dirt and particulates. However, put your thumb over the hose end and the dirt and particulates are washed away. The same principles happens here. You would do better if you had a double filtration system. Not only would it filter ferrous materials but it would filter dirt, dust, and varoius other particulates that are sucked in and make their way past the air filteration systems.
I’ve always wanted to glue some magnets to the outside of my oil pan right under the oil pick up tube. That way I’m not fighting pressure inside the filter or oil galleries inside the engine.
I do believe he said "Earth" magnets, those are extremely strong magnets. If I'm not mistaken, they are the same type of magnets used in computer hard drives. I've "heard" of people using those (hard drive magnets about the size of 4 of these little ones combined) to stash good sized caliber "tools" securely on to vehicle frames worry free of them falling somewhere. People who drive like maniacs on the freeway, over speed bumps, you name it.
Frank Lenny good man!
Pressure and flow are not the same thing! Pressure doesn't make flow! This is the same logic as Volts and Amps
Volts = Speed,
Amps = Pressure
Volts is equivalent to Horse power
Amps is equivalent to Tourqe
@@KRich408 I think you missed the analogy and mostly the carparison of the oil sitting in the sump/pan area as oppose to oil flowing through the oil filter which has been pressurized by the oil pump. Study after study has shown that some oil filters can be a swirling vortex. Yes, there is pressure and flow. Several automobile institutions and universities have examined bearing and babbet materials to see what has imbedded itself into the various bearing materials and the greater problem wasn't always metal particals but other materials such as dust that was nearly as hard as diamonds. A few studies have even claimed to find substances thought to be meteor dust. The point is... a better filtration system or dual filters would serve better at protecting the engine then mere magnets alone, because it (better filtration) would catch both metallic particals ferrous and non ferrous (such as aluminum piston material). It would also catch dust and extremely hard particals that would grind and damage engine components, while a magnet would have no effect at all on non metallic particals.
Would it not be better to place them on the oil pan instead? Just curious and not trying to be confrontational.
The only thing I do differently from you is I use a filter mag, which is curved and goes around half of the filter, instead of those 2 dozen rare earth magnets that you bought at harbor freight.
You really need to do an oil analysis to answer this question.
Circulating ferrous particles drop by ~50% when you use a magnet.
Surprisingly adding more magnets doesn't seem to reduce ferrous metals noticeably.
Fe is usually one of the main contaminants in oil... so reducing it by ~50% is worth doing.
Engine noise is often noticeably reduced after adding a magnet.
Less noise means less friction, less wear and more power.
Less particles in the oil means a longer oil and additive lifespan.
A magnetic sump plug can be used to measure wear in the engine e.g. Which oils, oil additives, etc... work best and to warn of potential problems.
It's much harder to do if you put your magnets only on the oil filter.
For the minor price a magnet is a no-brainer.
🙂
P.S. You should have shown a close-up of the sump plug magnet to demonstrate that it's catching ferrous particles.
A lot of people responding don't seem to realise how much metal is caught by magnets.
That's why a lot of factory sump plugs and most transmissions include a magnet.
I used elmers glue to stick a neodymium magnet onto the oil pan of my Bugatti Chiron, It caught a VW Jetta that was floating around in the oil.
10/10 Will use again.
iv'e also found it good practice to fill the oil filter with new oil prior to fitting . do others do this?
i do it on my old jeep and i cut the filter open and there was sum kind of metallic stuff where the magnets were sitting so they do work ps i also used a oil filter opener to get the filer open
I glued a bunch of those magnets to the ceiling & wall for storing knives & other tools.
I use them on any gearbox or engine. When those items wear it is ferric material that are rinsed away by the oil.
Thanks, buddy. I'm going to do this on my next oil change.
If you already have an OEM magnetic drain plug; save yourself the cost of extra magnets and buy yourself some beers to celebrate a successful oil change. 😂
#dontdrinkanddrive
#drinkresponsibly
Scotty is the man!!!
Jeez I’ve never heard of aluminum crank,bearings,cams,rockers 😂
Also scientifically, the magnets work in attracting ferrous metal particles. BUT you never mentioned microns. The filter element catches particles that are up to a certain micron which any smaller particles that may flow thru the filter are deemed non threatening to the pump and cavities. I do believe if you are experiencing metal shavings or particulates then regardless of the filter or magnet, something is eating it self beyond the point of salvaging filter or no filter
You look thinner why and when was your last good check up and listen to your body??
Come on guys Scotty is cool he has given many of us good advise. 💯👍🏼
Crack is a terrible drug.....IM rick james bitch....lol Miss the Dave Chappelle show.
this test is very interesting, but for more results you can send any example of oil at laboratory and examine the part oil, before and after you install the magnects
Anybody watching this video please don't use the filter wrench to TIGHTEN the filter on. I have seen many vehicles get towed into garages because someone used a filter wrench to put their filter on then couldn't get it back off. They generally end up poking a hole through the filter in an attempt to get it off then can't even drive the car in to a garage to get it fixed. Follow the instructions and only make it finger tight plus a half turn for just enough compression to seat the rubber gasket and ensure that it doesn't come off.
Truth, theres a reason why theres a rubber gasket on them. I loathe hard to reach filters that are cranked on.
Your choice of oil was top notch...
Just to test your theory, I'd love to see a tear down video of the filter to see if the magnets do indeed catch any fine ferrous material.
I've cut a filter open after running magnets on. The magnets do seem to trap some stuff to the sides of the can.
For those who has doubt, look at your transmission drain plug (one that has a magnet attached to it) and see what attached to the plug.
There is a round magnet up laying inside most transmission pans also and they do not catch everything as the pan is usually coated in debris as is the magnet inside the pans.. They try to claim oh it doesn't need serviced at all so it ensures future repairs due to not being serviced.magnets will only catch a small amount! Always service transmissions at 60-100k no matter what a dealer or sales person claims.Running the same fluid past 100k ensures failure! conventional or synthetic fluid
@@tryduck6993 Nonsense Changing your transmission fluid will destroy the unit. Seen it happen many times. You must be in auto sales
Oxone Oxone is your answer
rising through the oil playfully:)
Wire coil Wrap directly in the oil run a wire from the aux;)
at the fuseboxs
Scotty Kilmer called "Don't listen to him, he bought a chevy what does he know." Transmition getting ready to fail. Haha!
If you have a weak filter (like FRAM) that allows higher pressure to bypass the filter, the magnets will still keep catching stray metal particles.
i agree with u..u are a modern thinker..
Good idea with the magnets! But definitely NO need for magnets on the filter. The sump is a Better spot and the manufacturers have been doing it for years
It’s a FILTER and it doesn’t need extra help from your little magnets, it’s already designed to catch that crap in your oil, if you replace it every service you won’t have a problem.
Its a great idea and I have been doing this for my engine oil filter and my transmission spin on filter with the custom trans oil cooler. I use neodymium magnets by the way... 👍
Why not put them on the oil pan?
If you put the magnets on the oil pan, how are you supposed to remove any metal particles that have been removed from the oil without removing the oil pan, Einstein? Therefore, the magnets on the oil filter is a much better choice.
@@scruffy26 He was asking a question because he didn't know the answer... No need to be a dick in your reply.
They make magnetic oil plugs for that. I personally feel they are more effective and safer than clumping metal in a high flow area.
scruffy26 there are already magnets in the oil pan.
A lot of manufacturers are putting them in the oil pan now when made.
Smart man right here guys.
If you wrap an insulated copper wire around the oil filter and hold each end of the wire to a battery for a few seconds, it will magnetize the entire filter
I say slap one of those 200lbs holding magnets right besides your drain plug, right at the bottom. Right before you drian your oil pull it off and hopefully those metals will get drained as nothing is holding them anymore. This will only work if your pan is metal though. That Tahoe looked aluminium. You could glue a metal tab there then stick the magnet to it. I dont think the magnets would hurt on the filter but it is a high flow and pressure area and likely the metal will not hold when the pressures are 50-100psi sometimes at high way rpms.
I have been using rare earth magnets for a long time in the axles. Trans. And transfer cases along with the motor . i race .play with mud trucks. . they work
I like to zip tie old fridge calender magnets to my filters. But you got me thinking here, one nickle size earth magnet on the bottom of the filter.
My truck came with a magnet in the tip of the drain plug im probably sure you can get one at the parts store
love the idea..but magnet don't last if expose to high temperature, they will loose their magnetism and fall off... especially the rare earth magnets...
It makes sense to me what will it harm its cheap and practical
This won't work too much pressure. That's why your drain plug has a magnet.
Totally false. They work for a fact . I use the N52 REM about the size of a 50 cent piece . They can pick up 30 lbs. no problem. Use a pipe cutter after your oil and filter change, cut it open and look where your magnets are...its like a little tiny pile of powder. When you move the magnets around , it will drag the fine powder of metal around the inside .... It works for real. People who never have done something will tell you that its wrong even though you've been doing it because of hands on experience....I know if I say something to dispute someone , its because I have studied and researched the shit out of it before I open my mouth spewing out a bunch BS. Times have changed. While growing up I was taught , If you don't know for a fact , don't act like you know. Because your word reflects what type of man you are.....And after time your drain plug magnet gets weaker because of its weakness/flaw of being exposed to temps over 170 degrees F.
Well said Mr. LL, Using Magnets on a filter can in fact extend the life of an engine 3-5 times as proven by oil analysis using the APC Particle Count Test method. It counts the particles by size and weight. The particle count test using an optical particle counter of a used oil sample actually counts the particles in each ml of oil. You can math out the total particles by numbers and weight by multiplying by the sump volume. The test counts the particles by size in each category, (ie) 4 microns, 6 microns, 14 microns, 50 microns, 100 microns. The difference in using magnets and not using magnets can in fact reduce particle counts by up to three ISO codes. The particle counts double for each increase change in one ISO Codes. So reducing the particle count by three ISO codes by using the magnets reduces the particle counts in the oil by four times. This correlates to extended engine life of four times by plotting on a logarithmic graph.
I use the "Belt Sleeve" magnet..it slides & sticks to the filter firmly & won't come off..
i agree with you , what's going to hurt. cut an old filter with magnets open and see what's in it.