Analysis of NOAA Weather Radio alert tones (SAME) -- decoded and analyzed

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  • Here we present an explanation of the NOAA Weather Radio alert tones and what they contain.
    Tim Vasquez (former Air Force meteorologist) breaks down what's going on across the United States and shows forecasting tips and tricks. I'll give this a shot as a series and see where it goes... if you like it please like, share, and subscribe and I'll keep cranking them out.

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  • @cutiehatemachine
    @cutiehatemachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I used to be really scared of the SAME header (the sound, as well as the implications, but obviously you’re meant to be alarmed in the latter case!) but seeing it explained like this actually makes me very fascinated with how it works and therefore removes the mystery behind it. That, and the fact people keep referring to it as a duck elsewhere, haha. This is so cool and I’m so happy I’m not immediately upset by the sound anymore. The messaging is there to protect and inform us, after all.

  • @RavingPegasus
    @RavingPegasus ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've been searching for the anatomy and a decoded eas tone broadcast. Now I found it. Thanks for making this!

  • @HapliodHandler
    @HapliodHandler ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I had no idea those tones were a data stream. I always assumed they were supposed to sound scary.

    • @ForecastLab
      @ForecastLab  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL, good point... I guess it all works out.

    • @heyitseyevan
      @heyitseyevan ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ForecastLabwhen i was younger i always thought that the times the end message sound plays was an indicator of how severe the emergency was, now I just know that my car radio just turned off variably

    • @ElevatorWasher5000
      @ElevatorWasher5000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@heyitseyevanthose tones just tell the radio station to go back on the air and same with TVs

    • @oswald-the-lucky-rabbit
      @oswald-the-lucky-rabbit 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's the second purpose of the tone. 2 birds, one stone am i right?

  • @P_RO_
    @P_RO_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Interesting overview and explanation. Every home in the US needs a SAME-enabled weather radio along with their smoke detectors. Should be mandatory.

    • @newyorkgaming5283
      @newyorkgaming5283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don’t know about it being mandatory, but people should definitely have one.

    • @kreuner11
      @kreuner11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the same-enabled weather radio is called a tv and phone

    • @RoonyEAS
      @RoonyEAS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      power outages:@@kreuner11

    • @ElevatorWasher5000
      @ElevatorWasher5000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn’t used to have a smoke detector but I had a NOAA weather radio…

  • @klevinaters4681
    @klevinaters4681 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Also I love how NWS/EAS has a code for a zombie outbreak... lol

    • @chriscollamore5471
      @chriscollamore5471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They don't. It's a joke. You can read all codes here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_Area_Message_Encoding

    • @ShockValue500
      @ShockValue500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The CDW event code is for a Civil Danger Warning which is broadcast whenever a major threat to the public exists.

    • @squirleyspitmonkey3926
      @squirleyspitmonkey3926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just means "civil danger warning" which would be warning issued in that event.

    • @julianvanevera8638
      @julianvanevera8638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShockValue500 i just realized, CDW can also stand for Contagious Disease Warning

    • @FN32DXer
      @FN32DXer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@julianvanevera8638 Nope, it’s a Civil Danger Warning.

  • @sethrice9939
    @sethrice9939 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Woah I had no idea. I should have, it’s like dialup or noaa satcom downlinks. I just always assumed it was an audio recording playing based on the SAME code that filtered out the areas you don’t want to hear about. There is so much more! That’s so freakin cool!

  • @thecrankybunny
    @thecrankybunny ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been able to pick out what the incoming weather alert on my local weather radio is going to be based on the length of the first three bursts alone, with little error (tornado and I think flash flood warnings are about the same to my ears in length). This is a great explanation for everyone to understand why the alert sounds the way it does, thanks!!

    • @crypto.7562
      @crypto.7562 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the length is the same no matter what warning it is, the only thing that would change the length of the bursts are the locations the alert is for, all weather events are three letters long.

  • @Wababungus
    @Wababungus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    its crazy how all those random noises can be decoded. How does the software get those letters and numbers from the sound? Does each frequency correspond to a letter/ number?

    • @ForecastLab
      @ForecastLab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I can't recall which type of modulation the system uses, but if you search around for audio, modem, and modulation there should be some info. This is the same technology as a slow speed modem.

    • @LegoWormNoah101
      @LegoWormNoah101 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ForecastLab Frequency Shift Keying

    • @aetd106
      @aetd106 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's called audio frequency shift keying - basically one frequency/tone represents a mark/1 and another represents a space/0.
      When you combine those 1s and 0s you make binary numbers which, correctly decoded, relate to letters and numbers. E.g. in ASCII, an A (capital A) is represented by the number 65 (or 41 in hexadecimal - 100 0001 in binary). Each character is made up of 8 sequential bits, giving values of 0-255, but only 0-127 are used in ASCII so you just add a leading 0.
      It's very similar to the way modems used to work and why they made weird noises - it's digital data represented as sounds to be transported over an audio medium and decoded back into data at the other end.

    • @crypto.7562
      @crypto.7562 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      a one is encoded at 2083.3 hz and a 0 is encoded at 1562.5 hz they are 1.92 ms apart.

  • @daftoptimist
    @daftoptimist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s just like a dial-up modem handshake - it may sound random and off-putting, but it’s just the sound of computers talking to one another.

  • @BlendedMozart
    @BlendedMozart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The attention tone was previously used on the EAS’s predecessor, the Emergency Broadcast System

  • @cptduckbeard1469
    @cptduckbeard1469 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What program was used for this? and what other programs do u use for radio stuff?

  • @tyjuarez
    @tyjuarez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    imagine living in the middle of kansas and a tsunami warning shows up

  • @mman454
    @mman454 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the informative video!

  • @WarningSirensOfUpstateNY
    @WarningSirensOfUpstateNY 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is this software? Just curious.

  • @ItsMePhiliph
    @ItsMePhiliph 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder how was this tones designed, who made the decisions that would make data streams to make tones like that? I wanna research that but I don't know how to or where to ask lol. I'm a music producer and sound design geek, and that's why I find it curious!

  • @accursedcursive4935
    @accursedcursive4935 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Minor error: Purge time is given as "0045 UTC" here as though referring to 12:45am UTC, but actually it's supposed to mean 45 minutes after issue time (so, 2158 UTC)

  • @Galactipod
    @Galactipod 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:06
    *8-25 second

  • @MJT777X
    @MJT777X 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Although eerie enough, this is quite interesting
    It's like a decoding or something

  • @vending_sodas5
    @vending_sodas5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What software werer you using to decode that?

    • @ForecastLab
      @ForecastLab  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be honest I don't recall, that was put together years ago. It was probably some sort of RTTY decoder.

  • @Leadbraw
    @Leadbraw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome

  • @Spherey
    @Spherey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what software is this and where can i download it

  • @RyanColgan1125
    @RyanColgan1125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What software is being used to analyze the SAME code?

  • @Thevectornine
    @Thevectornine 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how does the same decoding work

  • @Orc-icide
    @Orc-icide ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's kind of an emotional experience to find out that the different noises I hear, are some of the most important messages that one can send, within a few seconds... This is from an engineering lens, where everything you make is going to fail horribly in 5000 ways before it succeeds...

  • @APetrus-r5x
    @APetrus-r5x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    (Eas comes on)
    The National Weather Service in Honolulu Hawaii and the Joint Typhoon Warning Center have issued a Typhoon Warning for
    in Hawaii: Olahu Island, Molokai Island, Maui Island
    A confirmed dangerous typhoon is on track to strike these Hawaiian islands. Take cover now. This typhoon has confirmed 100 to 150 per hour winds, with unconfirmed reports of 175 to 200 or higher. Damaging hail and flooding rain is also approaching. Contact the National Weather Service or Joint Typhoon Warning Center or tune into your NOAA Weather Radio for more details.
    (EOM)

  • @tredI9100
    @tredI9100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    holy dingus, that is alot of data

  • @ISL28587
    @ISL28587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what software did you use to decode this?

    • @ForecastLab
      @ForecastLab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly don't recall, this was done many years ago.

    • @georgiawx
      @georgiawx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      seatty

  • @treenelson4063
    @treenelson4063 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool thanks for the info

  • @nicholasmedovich8691
    @nicholasmedovich8691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the hz tone for the slowed EAS SAME

    • @ForecastLab
      @ForecastLab  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like Wikipedia has some info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_Area_Message_Encoding#Format_of_digital_parts

  • @vorlitra6879
    @vorlitra6879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hm I thought it was usually to get your attention easier but I guess not

    • @entechcore
      @entechcore 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The attention tone is to get your attention.

    • @Predz-xh5oj
      @Predz-xh5oj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Woah, really?

    • @Devo57
      @Devo57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Predz-xh5oj haha

  • @SGANIMATIONS92
    @SGANIMATIONS92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    H A P P Y F I L E it was jungler on nextbot theme

  • @SoothingSounds-kq6yg
    @SoothingSounds-kq6yg ปีที่แล้ว

    Zombie virus?! Well, I don't like the sound of that! Sounds Sirius!

  • @fitybux4664
    @fitybux4664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:30 "Regional outbreak of a zombie virus"? A joke, right? ZOMBIE virus??? LOL.

  • @squirleyspitmonkey3926
    @squirleyspitmonkey3926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This seriously creeps me the fuck out

  • @agoogleuser7738
    @agoogleuser7738 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These tones aren't used in NWR. These tones can only be heard in SAGE Endec equipment.

    • @Wolf_IT
      @Wolf_IT 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm guessing you're referring to the attention tone? This is true, NWS uses 1050hz. Even so, SAGE Endec equipment is not even close to the only equipment that uses the 853+960hz tones. You've got older TFT equipment (though they're gone now), Trilithic equipment (which was responsible for the black screen EAS messages you typically saw on TV, though that screen seems to be getting more rare now a days, at least on Comcast) and probably others that I don't know of.

  • @missywiley3140
    @missywiley3140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's the annoying beeeeeeeeeeep?