I have a daughter that age. 25 years experience working as a classroom teacher in public school. I cannot imagine the pain of the parents and the loss of these children’s families. I taught from Columbine to Parkland. I’m sick of kids killing other innocent children. Fed up! My lively and beautiful daughter, about to graduate, was a first grader when the shooter executed an unthinkable number of babies and teachers at Sandy Hook. I can’t imagine not having her and the wonderful things she has brought to my life💔💔💔💔💔
These parents go way beyond enabling their son, they armed him to be a killer. Neither of these parents truly comprehend how their behavior impacted the victims families. I pray for all who love the victims and may they find comfort.
@@Olliewiener she let everyone walk all over her. Had zero backbone.. and while the Crumbleys weren’t parents of the year nor were there statements anything but cringy I thought the Judge was incredibly rude and was favoring that prosecution hard
There's absolutely nothing funny about this case. However, Hanna's sister really has a way with words. When she said that 2 school officials shared 1 brain cell between them, I was impressed.
Looks like at the end of the hearing, the 2 defendants were furiously signing paperwork, which someone said was appeal paperwork. If that is true, they were holding up the close of the hearing…and they could have filled the paperwork out later. This seems really self centered, on the part of the defendants. The families of the murdered kids had to remain seated until the defendants were escorted out of the courtroom. Really pathetic.
Just an FYI: it wasn't Crumbley who rolled her eyes during the impact statement of Hannah's sister. According to Ms. McDonald, the person rolling their eyes was an attorney at the defense table. While not named, it is highly likely to have been Shannon Smith, who has a habit of doing such things.
Jennifer’s statement was delivered in a very flat and emotionless manner; she obviously doesn’t agree with the verdict. I was shocked at how much weight she’s gained. It appears she’s coping with her incarceration using food for comfort. It’s all so sad and tragic. 🙏🏼
Jennifer is still in her horribly selfish and self absorbed little bubble of self pity and lack of accountability! She didn’t get it! Even after time in jail!
Prison is a radical change in life, and often it quickly manifests in a change of physical appearance. That being said, i wonder how much extra food you could even get in prison. It seems way more likely to me that her gaining weight comes from her not being able to ride and care for her horses, one of the things she did at the expense of the well-being of her son.
I don't think you have access to a bunch of food all the time in prison, unless maybe you're rich. I bet she was doing drugs or drinking that kept her thin when out of jail.
If anything that would warrant another trial. Also 10-15 years is already the maximum of what the guidelines say. His lack of remorse and responsibility was clear already without the phone calls.
It was probably Jennifer’s PoS attorney that was rolling her eyes. That woman should be ashamed of herself - she’s a disgrace to attorneys everywhere. How humiliating for her law firm to have an attachment to that thing they call an employee. 🤮
I feel so sad for the victims and the young killer. This could have been prevented had he been guided and cared for in this life. I pray for peace for everyone that has been affected by this.
As a parent i just cant imagine being so unattached and lacking in empathy for your own childs feelings and emotional wellbeing. Ethan suffered dreadfully as a result. So sad this led to the loss of lives of 4 beautiful children. The Crumbley parents were truly dreadful parents. Prayers for those lost lives 🙏🙏🙏
Jennifer Crumbley has been a prisoner for over two years, they feed you literal garbage when incarcerated, I don't understand how she is so big, and it looks like she even gained weight from her mug shot.
I get she needs to preserve her chances for an appeal but she could have said a lot less and accomplished that goal. All both of them accomplished was making it clear they still don’t get how they contributed to the shooting.
What's crazy about apologising to the deeply grieving family members of the children their direct actions caused the death of? That's the very least they could do, is say sorry for the catastrophic outcomes their actions caused.
I hate to say it but tragedies like this one caused by irresponsible parents are only going to keep happening. The amount of parents i’ve seen that choose to ignore or even excuse their kid’s bad behavior in the name of it being “normal” and “that’s what kids do” is only increasing. This mom said it herself: she thought her kid was normal. Everyday more parents are wholeheartedly believing that bad behavior or mental health problems are normal and their kids will only grow out of it and there’s no changing their mind
Perhaps the authorities figured this is the best way to go. WOW 2 totally opposite parenting 😢 styles & the Crumbly’s the garbage 🗑️ Beautiful smart & awesome kids were taken while ruining their own son by NOT giving him Mental Health assistance!😳
Judge reading from a pre written statement while giving James and Jennifer the maximum was the best part. She couldn't care less what they had to say about mitigating circumstances
It’s simple: if you can’t or don’t want to care for a child, do not have children! It’s a human being that you’re shaping! Don’t create one only to destroy it!
The fact that I would have immediately believed it if it would have been Jennifer to have rolled her eyes, shows how she has shown her despicable personality during this case! I have read that it was her attorney who did this and having seen the shameful behavior of that attorney, is just as much not giving any doubt she did it!
Sorry - your interjections of advertisements in your Shows are often soooooo inappropriately timed - with a terrible segue into the advertisement……..Put them at the beginning or the end!!! Putting the advertisements in the content makes me want to immediately switch off & look for another Channel to watch for the update on the News story!😣😣😣 (And - yes - I am a Lawyer in Australia.)
It’s not just about the time they need to serve, it’s the fact that if they were free but without having to care for their son, they get exactly what they wanted.
There were moments I was going in between should the go to prison/be released and were they guilty/innocent but the replies in closing statements just showed how much they just feel sorry really for themselves. Well done on the right decision judge!
Jennifer just took no responsibility at all, she's just so cold aswell, she couldn't even fake it Also knowing he made that call is horrific to know 😟😲
Wow. So unsure how I feel about this case. Only bc the school counselor didn’t make them take him home or search his backpack. I think those 2 things are crucial to this case.
If I was shown that drawing done by my child there’s no way I could go to work and concentrate on my job. I’d be ringing around for a therapist appointment for that same day and no way would I leave his side. I’d be broken that he was so unhappy and disturbed. Rest in peace beautiful young people.
James and Jennifer Crumbley should not have been allowed to give their own victim impact statements, that was absolute BS. And I didn't want to hear their lawyers giving statements asking for leniency in the sentencing. I was hoping the judge would have sentenced them above the recommendation.
what they gave was not a victim impact statement but an allocution statement. everyone gets to make one before sentencing, it is very standard practice. it is the opportunity of the defendant to show remorse and offer a statement to help determine their sentence.
They have absolutely no remorse. And for James to try and say he's on the same side as the Myre family and "won't stop until he gets the truth". There's been a trial, you're guilty, and the Myre family despise your existence..
Some people shouldn't have children... These two clearly allowed their child to have access to firearms and failing to keep firearms safely and securely at home are different crimes. Failing to supervise a child sufficiently is also a crime. So is failing to instil proper respect for other people and the law. Parents should be liable for these crimes if their child obtains a firearm as a result of their negligence.
The set sentence doesn't say too much. These two ADULTS did nothing for their own son. Ignored his pleas, his warnings. And they have destroyed the rest of his life by not so much as lifting a finger to help him. They have forever destroyed the lives of these families. They have allowed the lives of the victims to be stopped cold. And yet they will have a chance to come out of prison and live their lives. That's unjust!
I feel it's time for parents to wake up and start taking responsibility for their children. Our children need to feel safe and be safe. This should have been a law years ago.
Wondering if the boy is being tried as an adult? When at school a parent is also on different footing and why didn't the school do their job no checking of the backpack should tell you even more the child spends more time with that student then the parents. It took a village to miss all the signs so only blame the parents. Step back then look in. No parent wants their child to take the life of any living thing. Stop it. We all failed this community again. And that's the real answer.
The shooter pled guilty (no trial) to 4 counts of 1st degree murder. He took the plea to adult charges and is currently in prison. He is almost 19 now. He received 4 life sentences. The court, during the parents trial explained how he was guilty to adult charges but the parents are responsible for him since his age was that of a minor. Watch the trial it's enenlightening.
I must seriously ask if you are on drugs. "'WE' all failed this community" is the craziest take I have heard today. So you're saying I am responsible for the 2 deranged parents negligently raising their deranged kid? Please explain how that makes sense.
The school had no idea he had a gun! There was no inkling (or probable cause) for them to check the backpack! These two monsters failed to tell the school about the gun!
From the trial content, I don’t think it was an issue of their kid being entitled. Sounded way more like he just was never a priority and they downplayed or dismissed his needs as a result.
Let's say the parents of the next School massacre had the guns and ammo locked up securely and their child decided to grab the biggest kitchen knife out of the drawer, go to school and stab and kill multiple people, would the parents still be charged The same way? Would they be fine? Culpable because they didn't secure the kitchen knives? I get it. They ignored the red flags and everything and did not get their child the help that he needed, but would we still be having the same trial if he used a kitchen knife instead of a firearm?
parents are liable for their children's actions if they are negligent in recognizing and taking action in mitigating a situation that could have been avoided... but this is not the answer to America's gun and shooting problem... America needs common sense gun laws otherwise these events would just continue to happen... sympathies and condolences to the families of the victims
The shooter the shooter shame on those parents they wanted to distance there selfs from there son so his son was referred to as the shooter not your son😢
Why is Jennifer guilty? What did she do wrong? I understand that it's illegal to buy a gun for a child, but it was James who bought the gun, not Jennifer.
OK are we going to start holding all parents accountable for their children’s actions? Are we going to at least take away the parents government subsidies because they didn’t raise a responsible child into society? This sets a pretty low bar but will it be followed will it be adhered to in other cases Involving teens stealing cars, gun violence, drug dealing, assault and public menacing?
They didn't just ignore all of the signs the size of the titanic, they facilitated his actions. Generally I wouldn't default to parents be9ng criminally liable if their precious one lost his mind and shot up whatever... No, they bought him the GD gun, and ignored the school... They are getting off EASY, IMO.. 5-7 years.. or 15... Whatever... Empowering your kids to do these things should carry a very similar charge.. You get murder charges if you so much as drove a getaway vehicle and someone is murdered.. What is different? TIP to the innocents.. :(
She completely contradicts herself trying to explain her statement about if she could go back and do anything different she wouldn't.. It wasn't misunderstood, we all know you were trying to avoid a conviction but you stuffed up Jen. Have fun for the next 15 years
Its everyone else’s fault. The school, the prosecution, the media, etc. They’re innocent angels. They’re victims. They were delusional and in denial about their son before the shooting and are still delusional and in denial now.
I never comment. And I do love your content but how you jumped into the ad by leading with the pain and suffering of a loved one was gross. Act with compassion
Awe poor Jennifer wont have a vacation in Smith's guest house. Just a joke Smith patting Crumbley on the back of the head as she was leaving the courtroom
Ok. If you want to be taken seriously, tell us what specific laws would be changed AND how they would be instituted AND what effects it would have in preventing this tragedy. Thanks in advance.
How about be a responsible gun owner. How about be a fkn parent. Ain't no way they didn't know their kid needed serious help. Instead, they gave him the gun and the bullets.
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It is wrong but Law and Crime does not care. @@Neilukuk
I pay for TH-cam premium so I don’t have to watch ads, I hate when they are imbedded which is why I rarely watch this channel.
Maddison’s mom impact statement broke my heart.
She made impact for sure.
So sorry she is a victim of this.
RIP Maddison. ❤
I have a daughter that age. 25 years experience working as a classroom teacher in public school. I cannot imagine the pain of the parents and the loss of these children’s families. I taught from Columbine to Parkland. I’m sick of kids killing other innocent children. Fed up!
My lively and beautiful daughter, about to graduate, was a first grader when the shooter executed an unthinkable number of babies and teachers at Sandy Hook. I can’t imagine not having her and the wonderful things she has brought to my life💔💔💔💔💔
Grow up that's the problem it's the kids fault
Ugh I cried - that was heart wrenching 💔
@@OhthatJEN don’t make kids that hurt others
@@mikmik5475
These parents were particularly implicated in these murders. That isn’t always the case, but it is here.
It just boggles my mind how they still can't take any responsibility in their actions, or lack there of.
It makes sense though. People who take responsibility aren’t so likely to end up in this situation.
@@rumination2399 very very true...
It’s typical of cowards! They can’t see anything but themselves!
It was Shannon Smith that rolled her eyes. Once again very unprofessional! Worst attorney ever. Loved the judge today, great job!
Just came here to say that as well. Kudos to the sister for calling out Shannon Smith right then and there.
She sucks as a judge
@@shelbyshay9604 agreed 😊
@@ToothFairy86
What's wrong with the judge?
Shame on Shannon.
These parents go way beyond enabling their son, they armed him to be a killer. Neither of these parents truly comprehend how their behavior impacted the victims families. I pray for all who love the victims and may they find comfort.
Yes your ritht here myfriend
Loved how soft spoken and yet so powerful that judge was.
POWERFUL? Lol what a joke!
The entire trial was a circus
@@ToothFairy86
What r u talkin'bout?
@@ToothFairy86wut do you mean
@@Olliewiener she let everyone walk all over her. Had zero backbone.. and while the Crumbleys weren’t parents of the year nor were there statements anything but cringy I thought the
Judge was incredibly rude and was favoring that prosecution hard
If more parents were held accountable for the crimes of their young children maybe parents would pay more attention to what their kids are doing.
I would be careful about this route. Unlike other parents of school shooters their were clear ways this could have been stopped.
There's absolutely nothing funny about this case. However, Hanna's sister really has a way with words. When she said that 2 school officials shared 1 brain cell between them, I was impressed.
Sometimes humor helps you to keep going. There are people who survived the holocaust with their humor.
@@Nickname-ef9tv Humor is half of the human spirit, the other half is childish curiosity.
Looks like at the end of the hearing, the 2 defendants were furiously signing paperwork, which someone said was appeal paperwork. If that is true, they were holding up the close of the hearing…and they could have filled the paperwork out later. This seems really self centered, on the part of the defendants. The families of the murdered kids had to remain seated until the defendants were escorted out of the courtroom. Really pathetic.
That’s on their defense attorneys.
@user-ex8xf9fr7uit wouldn't have mattered if the judge had pointed it out.
It's sad that he clearly asked for help and they ignored it
It’s horrendous! Had they just paid attention to him, none of this would have happened!
@FamLawJ.D. better yet told the school he had a gun. They would have separated him from his bag.
@@Denozo88 They could and should have intervened WAY before that point
@@rylanyoung2018 I agree wholeheartedly. The meeting was the punch to the face moment where if you ain't getting it your not going to get it.
Just an FYI: it wasn't Crumbley who rolled her eyes during the impact statement of Hannah's sister. According to Ms. McDonald, the person rolling their eyes was an attorney at the defense table. While not named, it is highly likely to have been Shannon Smith, who has a habit of doing such things.
Absolutely gut wrenching impact statements.
asking for time served and live with the lawyers guesthouse, what a joke
Shows how self absorbed and out of touch they are!
Seriously, what a slap to the face for the victims families.
Great synopsis Jesse! You nailed the closing on this as well…👏🏽👏🏽
I had to go back and re-listen. Jennifer has been invited to live in her attorney's guest house? OMFG. Reminds me of Casey Anthony.
So sick.
Maybe they have fallen in love with each other.
🤔💭
She asked to, I really don't think the attorney extended that offer
Crazy!
@@Mackathne
Really?!
Jen's got big balls!
Jennifer’s statement was delivered in a very flat and emotionless manner; she obviously doesn’t agree with the verdict. I was shocked at how much weight she’s gained. It appears she’s coping with her incarceration using food for comfort. It’s all so sad and tragic. 🙏🏼
Yeah and it's prison food too.
Jennifer is still in her horribly selfish and self absorbed little bubble of self pity and lack of accountability! She didn’t get it! Even after time in jail!
Prison is a radical change in life, and often it quickly manifests in a change of physical appearance. That being said, i wonder how much extra food you could even get in prison. It seems way more likely to me that her gaining weight comes from her not being able to ride and care for her horses, one of the things she did at the expense of the well-being of her son.
I don't think you have access to a bunch of food all the time in prison, unless maybe you're rich. I bet she was doing drugs or drinking that kept her thin when out of jail.
I assumed James would have a longer sentence since he threatened prosecutor & didn’t lock the gun & ammo
They were equally responsible. Useless parents!
If anything that would warrant another trial. Also 10-15 years is already the maximum of what the guidelines say. His lack of remorse and responsibility was clear already without the phone calls.
Thank you for your statements at the end!
If your kid tells you hes hearing voices and desperately wants to see a doctor, maybe listening and being proactive would be the right thing to do
These people are truly despicable. It baffles the mind the negligence they showed.
And now all three of them are one big happy family once again in prison
I cant believe the husband had the audacity to suggest his sentence. May they enjoy prison!
james is repugnant
It was probably Jennifer’s PoS attorney that was rolling her eyes. That woman should be ashamed of herself - she’s a disgrace to attorneys everywhere. How humiliating for her law firm to have an attachment to that thing they call an employee. 🤮
She owns the firm
People aren’t things. Dehumanising anybody is an awful thing to do. She is a human being, with the rights and responsibilities that come with that.
She pulled the same crap during the Larry Nassar trial as well. She's disgusting. I've never seen an attorney torment victims the way she does.
I feel so sad for the victims and the young killer. This could have been prevented had he been guided and cared for in this life. I pray for peace for everyone that has been affected by this.
I’m so glad you included Ethan in the people you feel bad for! He was a victim too!
Those parents have me throwing up! Justice and hopefully more neglectful parents will wise up. Parenting isn’t for cowards!
8:14 somebody else rolled their eyes, if you pay attention to what she said!
Yes! Jennifer’s lawyer did.
As a parent i just cant imagine being so unattached and lacking in empathy for your own childs feelings and emotional wellbeing. Ethan suffered dreadfully as a result. So sad this led to the loss of lives of 4 beautiful children. The Crumbley parents were truly dreadful parents. Prayers for those lost lives 🙏🙏🙏
The women’s prison seems to be well stocked with meals, but a bit lacking with water and soap.
Its the stress and lack of movement.
@@PaoRojas-k7h James Crumbley stayed skinny though...
@@Robin-xt7yoeveryone has different metabolisms 🙃
Hahahahahaha omg
@@miguelcunanan9855 I’m glad someone gets it!!🤣 Thanks! Sadly, the three others who commented are clueless.😆
They need to hold her in contempt for rolling her eyes what a joke
Jennifer Crumbley has been a prisoner for over two years, they feed you literal garbage when incarcerated, I don't understand how she is so big, and it looks like she even gained weight from her mug shot.
Jens attorney was the one rolling her eyes. She was very animated during the victim statements. It was disgusting
Crazy that this woman took her chance to apologize and discuss what she would do differently, instead to continue defending herself.
I get she needs to preserve her chances for an appeal but she could have said a lot less and accomplished that goal. All both of them accomplished was making it clear they still don’t get how they contributed to the shooting.
What's crazy about apologising to the deeply grieving family members of the children their direct actions caused the death of? That's the very least they could do, is say sorry for the catastrophic outcomes their actions caused.
@@truthhurts2879 yes that’s what I’m saying. Is she should have apologized but instead she defended herself. Try reading my comment again.
I hate to say it but tragedies like this one caused by irresponsible parents are only going to keep happening. The amount of parents i’ve seen that choose to ignore or even excuse their kid’s bad behavior in the name of it being “normal” and “that’s what kids do” is only increasing.
This mom said it herself: she thought her kid was normal. Everyday more parents are wholeheartedly believing that bad behavior or mental health problems are normal and their kids will only grow out of it and there’s no changing their mind
Time served, what world do they live on!
Why not pursue child neglect / abuse charges against the parents with a possible longer sentence time instead?
Perhaps the authorities figured this is the best way to go. WOW 2 totally opposite parenting 😢 styles & the Crumbly’s the garbage 🗑️ Beautiful smart & awesome kids were taken while ruining their own son by NOT giving him Mental Health assistance!😳
10-15 years is quite a bit for a first time charging parents! Text book case’
Judge reading from a pre written statement while giving James and Jennifer the maximum was the best part. She couldn't care less what they had to say about mitigating circumstances
It's simple. Learn the lesson and CARE. Teach your kids to be kind and to care about others as much as themselves, or their families.
It’s simple: if you can’t or don’t want to care for a child, do not have children! It’s a human being that you’re shaping! Don’t create one only to destroy it!
7:43 oh my goodness
The fact that I would have immediately believed it if it would have been Jennifer to have rolled her eyes, shows how she has shown her despicable personality during this case!
I have read that it was her attorney who did this and having seen the shameful behavior of that attorney, is just as much not giving any doubt she did it!
When does the trial start for the school counselor?
Sorry - your interjections of advertisements in your Shows are often soooooo inappropriately timed - with a terrible segue into the advertisement……..Put them at the beginning or the end!!! Putting the advertisements in the content makes me want to immediately switch off & look for another Channel to watch for the update on the News story!😣😣😣 (And - yes - I am a Lawyer in Australia.)
ty for ur service karen
It’s not just about the time they need to serve, it’s the fact that if they were free but without having to care for their son, they get exactly what they wanted.
this is so important for the future.
Wow! Groundbreaking indeed
There were moments I was going in between should the go to prison/be released and were they guilty/innocent but the replies in closing statements just showed how much they just feel sorry really for themselves. Well done on the right decision judge!
Jennifer just took no responsibility at all, she's just so cold aswell, she couldn't even fake it
Also knowing he made that call is horrific to know 😟😲
When will you be posting the debate with TB and Grant???
This girl! 7:35 powerful! Brave young woman!
Wow. So unsure how I feel about this case. Only bc the school counselor didn’t make them take him home or search his backpack. I think those 2 things are crucial to this case.
If I was shown that drawing done by my child there’s no way I could go to work and concentrate on my job. I’d be ringing around for a therapist appointment for that same day and no way would I leave his side. I’d be broken that he was so unhappy and disturbed. Rest in peace beautiful young people.
Jennifer looks like 20 years older than her mug shot😂 gain 50 pounds and 20 years 😂
3 hots and a cot. No access to hair dye, no meth, no workouts with her so called boyfriend.
They actually look like a brother and sister to me.
Jail food will do that to you.
@@Delusionalcryright? Like the van houtons on the simpsons lol
That’s what I was thinking, she changed a lot!
why does James Crumbley keep wearing headphones?
I'm wondering the same
He has a hearing impairment
@@tashgodoffools thanks ⚘⚘
Why do vision impared people wear glasses?
@@ScootsMcPootthere’s no need for the snark. She was asking a genuine question.
James and Jennifer Crumbley should not have been allowed to give their own victim impact statements, that was absolute BS. And I didn't want to hear their lawyers giving statements asking for leniency in the sentencing. I was hoping the judge would have sentenced them above the recommendation.
what they gave was not a victim impact statement but an allocution statement. everyone gets to make one before sentencing, it is very standard practice. it is the opportunity of the defendant to show remorse and offer a statement to help determine their sentence.
They should have been charged with failure to protect as well.
That was part of the involuntary manslaughter charge.
Jennifer's eye-roll said everything we need to know about her.
Zero accountability. Disgusting.
They have absolutely no remorse. And for James to try and say he's on the same side as the Myre family and "won't stop until he gets the truth". There's been a trial, you're guilty, and the Myre family despise your existence..
Some people shouldn't have children... These two clearly allowed their child to have access to firearms and failing to keep firearms safely and securely at home are different crimes. Failing to supervise a child sufficiently is also a crime. So is failing to instil proper respect for other people and the law. Parents should be liable for these crimes if their child obtains a firearm as a result of their negligence.
Wonder what the kid thinks about his parents going to jail because of his behavior? He showed so many times he needed help.
The lawyers guest house- why does that lawyer make so much she sucks
The set sentence doesn't say too much. These two ADULTS did nothing for their own son. Ignored his pleas, his warnings. And they have destroyed the rest of his life by not so much as lifting a finger to help him. They have forever destroyed the lives of these families. They have allowed the lives of the victims to be stopped cold. And yet they will have a chance to come out of prison and live their lives. That's unjust!
I wonder if the Crumbley's will get back together after prison...
Nope.
@@donna25871 it would be pretty awkward...
I cannot believe how people show up for court in leisure clothing. ??
These ads man I can’t even get through 3 minutes without one
if you cry harder it might help
@@horvathsogranfume658 this ghoul is doomed
I feel it's time for parents to wake up and start taking responsibility for their children. Our children need to feel safe and be safe. This should have been a law years ago.
Hmm. These people no longer have to pay bills or taxes.
“Incompetent minds with 1 shared brain cell” about the school officials that also let this happen. She ate
Was this in Pontiac ?
No Lake Orion
Wondering if the boy is being tried as an adult? When at school a parent is also on different footing and why didn't the school do their job no checking of the backpack should tell you even more the child spends more time with that student then the parents. It took a village to miss all the signs so only blame the parents. Step back then look in. No parent wants their child to take the life of any living thing. Stop it. We all failed this community again. And that's the real answer.
The shooter pled guilty (no trial) to 4 counts of 1st degree murder. He took the plea to adult charges and is currently in prison. He is almost 19 now. He received 4 life sentences. The court, during the parents trial explained how he was guilty to adult charges but the parents are responsible for him since his age was that of a minor. Watch the trial it's enenlightening.
I must seriously ask if you are on drugs.
"'WE' all failed this community" is the craziest take I have heard today.
So you're saying I am responsible for the 2 deranged parents negligently raising their deranged kid? Please explain how that makes sense.
Do you have a kid? And how am I responsible for what these trash parents did?
The school had no idea he had a gun! There was no inkling (or probable cause) for them to check the backpack! These two monsters failed to tell the school about the gun!
Finally. Now parents with disturbed children who have guns should take notice.
Those parents never taught their children the word "no". Because they are scared of the kid, parents don't want kids having tantrums.
From the trial content, I don’t think it was an issue of their kid being entitled. Sounded way more like he just was never a priority and they downplayed or dismissed his needs as a result.
Let's say the parents of the next School massacre had the guns and ammo locked up securely and their child decided to grab the biggest kitchen knife out of the drawer, go to school and stab and kill multiple people, would the parents still be charged The same way? Would they be fine? Culpable because they didn't secure the kitchen knives? I get it. They ignored the red flags and everything and did not get their child the help that he needed, but would we still be having the same trial if he used a kitchen knife instead of a firearm?
parents are liable for their children's actions if they are negligent in recognizing and taking action in mitigating a situation that could have been avoided... but this is not the answer to America's gun and shooting problem... America needs common sense gun laws otherwise these events would just continue to happen... sympathies and condolences to the families of the victims
The eye roll was from Jennifer's attorney. Not Jennifer.
The shooter the shooter shame on those parents they wanted to distance there selfs from there son so his son was referred to as the shooter not your son😢
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WHY do you have that background that looks like smeared blood?!! It’s gross. Not
“Cool”!
It a rusty orange red color. Not the color of blood.
@@arvanni that’s the color of dried blood - what it would look like if it were smeared on a wall - and left to dry.
@@t.d108 dried blood darkens. Just as a red 🌹 turns dark after it dies and or dries to a maroon, burgundy color.
@@arvanni not what I’ve seen - when it’s smeared. Thats exactly how it looks.
@@t.d108 Ok, but those walls are not "smeared" with that color that you think is blood lol
What’s with what looks like blood smeared on your wall Jesse? That’s disgusting!
Why is Jennifer guilty? What did she do wrong? I understand that it's illegal to buy a gun for a child, but it was James who bought the gun, not Jennifer.
Jennifer is also 100% at fault she failed to get him help she also failed to take him out of school.
This could have been prevented…
OK are we going to start holding all parents accountable for their children’s actions? Are we going to at least take away the parents government subsidies because they didn’t raise a responsible child into society? This sets a pretty low bar but will it be followed will it be adhered to in other cases Involving teens stealing cars, gun violence, drug dealing, assault and public menacing?
Having children is a curse. I live my child free life.
Little too late. 😢
Wait so school members should also be charged they seen his papers and allowed him into the school
It’s so crazy how someone down here in Oklahoma looks like that kid!!!
Im so glad and blessed that I don’t have children
How self absorbed of a human css as m you be? That’s what you got out of this?
@@AidaShawJ.D. I’m glad I don’t have children’.
@@AidaShawJ.D.hopefully you dont have kids either karen
They didn't just ignore all of the signs the size of the titanic, they facilitated his actions. Generally I wouldn't default to parents be9ng criminally liable if their precious one lost his mind and shot up whatever... No, they bought him the GD gun, and ignored the school... They are getting off EASY, IMO.. 5-7 years.. or 15... Whatever... Empowering your kids to do these things should carry a very similar charge.. You get murder charges if you so much as drove a getaway vehicle and someone is murdered.. What is different? TIP to the innocents.. :(
Wasn't Ethan Crumbley charged as an adult and sentenced as an adult? How does this make sense??
being charged as an adult doesnt absolve his parents of their negligent behaviour before the crime. Learn how words and the law works, pea brain.
She completely contradicts herself trying to explain her statement about if she could go back and do anything different she wouldn't.. It wasn't misunderstood, we all know you were trying to avoid a conviction but you stuffed up Jen. Have fun for the next 15 years
Look ! like she want to punch someone 🤔
😢😢😢
Its everyone else’s fault. The school, the prosecution, the media, etc. They’re innocent angels. They’re victims. They were delusional and in denial about their son before the shooting and are still delusional and in denial now.
Or narcissists. Or maybe all of the above.
I never comment. And I do love your content but how you jumped into the ad by leading with the pain and suffering of a loved one was gross. Act with compassion
How the are these parents so angered at them two.
how did you make it this long without a functioning brain
Written statements sound so fake speak from the heart
Also dont bully kids and they wont do this
The crocodile tears from the first woman. 🤣
Looking forward to the appeal.
Why?
To watch it get shut down? Lol. Let me guess, you snuggle your guns at night and Whack it to the thought of the NRA?
@@denisepelton5556cuz he likes to be dissappointed
This judge should have considered of prior offenses aka jacket, if you have a clean record the maximum sentence is harsh.
Awe poor Jennifer wont have a vacation in Smith's guest house. Just a joke Smith patting Crumbley on the back of the head as she was leaving the courtroom
Did that attorney kiss her client?
What makes more sense is to change the gun laws in the gun crazed American society.
Ok. If you want to be taken seriously, tell us what specific laws would be changed AND how they would be instituted AND what effects it would have in preventing this tragedy.
Thanks in advance.
Please explain what your asking for?
How about be a responsible gun owner. How about be a fkn parent. Ain't no way they didn't know their kid needed serious help. Instead, they gave him the gun and the bullets.
Yeah but easier to pretend this only happens to parents who don’t secure their guns.