It is deeply sorrowful what happened to the Chinese Admiral, who was competent and devoted. He denied the chance to seek asylum in Japan and chose to follow the order for suicide after the battle. He was an honorable man serving a dishonorable court.
There's no doubt that he was a highly skilled officer, but his experience were limited to land warfare, having fought in both the Taiping and Nian rebellion. The reason he was injured so early in the battle was because he stood too close to the main guns of the Chen Yuan when they were fired. He probably wanted to inspire his men with his personal bravery.
Viceroy Li Hongzhang, which was blamed for the defeats suffered by the Qing forces, advised against the war from the start. But court officials, sitting comfortably in the imperial palace, not only called him a coward, but also withheld ammunition and supplies when the war finally broke out. It's hard to find anyone with his kind of competence, who's devoted so much of his life for his country, only to be blamed for failures, caused by circumstances beyond his control.
There are a lot of competent Chinese who are pulled down by the crabs inside their courts and government. Many of the competent and logical ones fled to greener pastures outside of China, those who are loyal stayed and is treated with treachery and betrayal.
Absolutely brilliant, 10/10: the chain of events chronologically, with maps and photos and short explanations, with names romanized and in Chinese characters/Kanji, and all of them correctly pronounced in all three languages Chinese, Korean and Japanese. Just marvellous!
Pour one out for the dog of Deng Shichang. Whether this story is true or not there is no denying that dogs are the most loyal companions you can ever find. Their ability to love is limitless.
Highly likely it's true, apparently the captain's family and McGiffin interviewed survivors after the battle, and in the 1950s (or 60s?) some historians also managed to interview a surviving sailor of the cruiser Laiyuan, and in all three interviews there was the story of the captain and his dog (Details were slightly different though). McGiffin actually worked closely with captain Deng in 1887 (or 1888? I forgot) when they sailed the Zhiyuan (newly bought from the UK) to China, and I remembered when he wrote about the foundering of the Zhiyuan for a newspaper, he referred captain Deng as his friend... Wonderful people.
A excellent episode to mirror the first Part. I am finishing my own part 2 for this event and I must say you have an excellent way of explaining the complicated story of corruption within the Qing Administration! I look forward to more of your work in the future =)
I am so glad I found your channel, thank you for the effort in making these videos. I am Chinese but live in California, so I really want to learn more about my history.
Different commanders are belongs to their own clans, thus their forces are self owned rather owned by the central government. This situation days back to the war between Qing and taiping heavenly kingdom, when the central government can not conscript as much forces as possible. The government decided to motivate local governors build up forces locally, in order to defense themselves ,and if possible , defeat the taiping rebellions. After this war, those governors turned became more and more powerful, even interfere national affairs. This grown to be a really serious problem in China ,during the first half of 20th century ,when the warlords separated and conflicted each other. During the first sino-Japanese war , Li hongzhang commanded the Beiyang fleet and the huaijun army clan. Ding ruchang, ye zhichao and Song Qing are belongs to this clan. It seems they can fight together, yet they are not prepared and underestimated third enemy. If defeated, they prefer to flee or committed suicide. They cares more about the number of their own forces than battle itself. If you are defeated and suffered great casualties, he will soon be impeached or crowded out. Unfortunately , the Qing commanders seldom know about modern war, they seldom win the fight, even though they are armed by advanced weapon. This is the lesson.
It surprised me too especially during the opium wars. The previous numbers of sokdiers numbering hundreds of thousands was probably only on paper and greatly exagerrated.
Could you one day make an video with an intense overview of the japanese-meiji empire? Regarding constitution, internal boundaries civil servants, role and position of the prefectures etc. Well, maybe there are not that many people how are interested in this Kind of Info :)
I'm conflicted. My channel is based on the history of China, although Japanese history is just as fascinating. It's not in my projects for the moment, but I'll keep it in mind :)
I am impressed you managed to get this out fairly quickly history of China! I really enjoyed this video! Although I will mention the one mistake that you made. Tibet wasn't independent in the map that you first showed. That broke away in 1911 when the Qing Empire began to collapse. Secondly, I would change the colour scheme of Manchuria when a foreign power has control of it. So for example, when the Japanese conquered a part of Manchuria, make it become light red so it shows that it's occupied by the Japanese. This would make it much easier to visualise the battle. Finally, my suggestion after this video would be to do the Japanese Invasion of Taiwan 1895. Taiwan is (as you probably know as I saw your Chinese Civil War Video) officially called the Republic of China. So I still think you should cover the conflict on your channel! And it would lead on great from the end of this video! Keep up the good work! Chinese history is fascinating. I am looking forward to your next video! 🙂
Thank you! Concerning Tibet, I've always represented it as part of the Qing dynasty but not annexed since it had more autonomy than regions like Mongolia or Xinjiang (thus within the borders, but in a different colour). After this video, I've planned to do the Boxer Rebellion and then Emperor Puyi to close off the Qing series, though I'd eventually like to talk more about Taiwan :) I'll keep in mind the colour change for invasions and occupation though :) Thanks for following!
This is an excellent overview. The documentary hits the main points. And covers the main personalities. But I was a bit surprised that the ending did not include the Japanese assassination of Korea's Queen Min. Her death in October 1895 is what really allowed Japan free reign, as they had viewed her as the power behind the throne, so to speak. Among other things, she had actively courted Russia, and to a lesser extent America, as a counterweight to Japan. But perhaps including her would have made the narrative too complicated.
A lot of people are saying it, but it's actually true: this is an excellent channel waiting to blow up. All videos have solid research behind, and the chinese pronunciation is so nice to hear, for a change! Keep the great work.
As always a video of great quality and interest :p can't help but have pity for the Beiyang Fleet ; and for the choice of developping marine instead of land military techs from the Tonghzi era onwards
Your pronounciation of the name of the Chinese battleship, fortress, region, and famous Chinese figure are really good. Just wondering are you Chinese?
Part of the reason for the Port Arthur massacre, was the discovery of the bodies of about 33 Japanese soldiers that had been captured by the Qing forces 8-10 days before the city fell. All of them had been beheaded, some had been tortured before their execution.
Another great story telling! Just something I notice is that you use simplified Chinese for your videos. Why is that? I just thought since it's history, shouldn't traditional be used? Just a suggestion.
Thanks so much! Since I'd like to shed light on these fascinating subjects to a large audience, I decided to use simplified rather than traditional characters. I might change in my future videos, though
Only a partial military modernization occurred, and despite the existence of another (Southern) fleet it had no single command. The same applied to the army. Additionally, the armies were based on the forces that the provincial Tuan raised, guaranteeing widely varying equipment, training and effectivenesx. The best troops were supposedly in the region of the war, and many of its troops (now its officers) had been recruited for the Taiping Rebellion, and stiill served since there was no retirement system. The quality of its troops had declined after years of garrison duty with little chance of promotion. The other reasons mentioned were al true as well.
A good amount did, yeah, but muskets and modern Western firearms were available to them, getting ammo for them was a nightmare though. Edit: to be fair to the Qing, they did defeat the French on land using that army XD
To some Chinese Historians they believe that the reason China lost the First Sino Japanese War, were also because Japan was able to successfully hack the Chinese military telegraph system. So as a result Japan was able to see all the secret move that China was planning. Also some Chinese Historians stated that Japan’s battleship artillery are more faster to load than the Chinese battleship artillery.
Dude your videos are awesome. Such a fascinating period in history. Question: You sound like an English person, but are you French? Every now and then I hear the slightest hint of Frenchness in your voice but maybe i'm imaginging it :)
@@History_of_China ahha, incredible. Honestly it's only the tiniest things that made me think you might have some French background. In fact, I never probably would have guessed at all (and thus started looking for clues you might have some French background), except when I heard you pronoucne some of the French place names, it was simply way too good for a native english speaker. Good on you for making these. I love Chinese history. I went to China maybe 4 years ago now, went to all the main tourist attractions in Beijing and in Xian. But there is nothing like this for tourists. The signs tell you the size of buildings, when they were first built. There's no narrative though. No explanations (I suppose this is what I should expect for a country without proper freedom of speech, and which had the cultural revolution :S). Thank you for shedding light on what was an absolutely fascinating era of history. I mean even just the boxer rebellion, crazy, imagine it, an eight nation army taking over the capital of the celestial empire, the same countries that would fight two world wars. Against people with long queues, believing they were invicincible to bullets. I also see now from your videos the fracturing of central power and how the civil war/age of warlords could have started. Good on you man. Keep it up :)
What I like about the Qing dynasty is that how they refused to never give up! 😤 Japan only became so good because they adopted new western war tech and strategies..
it was because they were overly complacent and for many years they have thought of themselves as an overlord in the region although their military might has waned drastically compared to the rest of the world..the Japanese also were equally if not more prideful and would rather die before surrendering as shown in WW2.
@@HungryWolf04 how wrong? Japan westernized itself, and in mere decades humiliated Russia and subjugated a good portion of Asia. RoC became one of the most advanced nations after adopting capitalism, South Korea made a jump from the third to first world in 40 years, while their northern counterparts died from starvation after ending of soviet donations.
@@timurermolenko2013 you said "every single " Look at the Philippines 350 years under spanish rule and occupied the the USA today and still a 3 world country. Look at Japan now just a pet to the USA.
Lushunkuo became Port Arthur after the Western powers force Japan to abandon it and the Peninsula. The Rusdians than took it from the Chinese those helping set the stage for the Russo-Japanese War of 1904/05.
The Shiminoseki Treaty is the Evidence of Taiwan 🇹🇼 was CEDED to Japan during the 1895 Sino Japanese War and Korea Kingdom was founded away from China 🇨🇳
Yuki no shingun koori wo funde Dore ga kawa yara michi sae shirezu Uma wa taoreru sutete mo okezu Koko wa izuku zo mina teki no kuni Mama yo daitan ippuku yareba Tanomi sukunaya tabako ga nihon Yakanu himono ni han-nie meshi ni Namaji inochi no aru sono uchi wa Korae kirenai samusa no takibi Kemui hazu da yo namaki ga iburu Shibui kao shite kōmyō banashi "Sui" to iu no wa umeboshi hitotsu Ki nomi ki no mama kiraku na fushido Hainō makura ni gaitō kaburya Sena no nukumi de yuki doke kakaru Yagu no kibigara shippori nurete Musubi kanetaru roei no yume wo Tsuki wa tsumetaku kao nozokikomu Inochi sasagete detekita mi yue Shinuru kakugo de tokkan suredo Buun tsutanaku uchiji ni seneba Giri ni karameta jūppei mawata Sorori sorori to kubi shime kakaru Dōse ikashite kaesanu tsumori
The general style is Ukiyo-e 浮世絵 (woodblock printing, lit. "pictures of the floating world"), but this subgenre is called Senso-e 戦争絵 ("pictures of war"). It developped drastically in the late 19th and early 20th century as Japan became more and more militaristic.
You come close to correclty pronouncing Qing. Though back then it was transliterated as Ts, there is no s in there. T+K+Ch+H+Ing say it all at once and very fast that's the sound it makes. The sound doesn't exist in English. It's a T with a heavily aspirated dry KCH after that. -ing = glottal -in = nasal both sound like english "ing" because english doesn't clearly distinguish whether the G in ing is enunciated or not.
As he mentioned in the comments he did study Chinese and since he was able to pronounce most words right, I think it may be a case where he knows the pronunciation but can’t quite manage it. Just like how speakers of non trill languages can hear the rolled r just fine but simply can’t do it.
Thanks! I took clips from two films : * The Sino-Japanese War at Sea 1894 (2012) * Emperor & Empress Meiji and the Sino-Japanese War (1958) In many of my videos, I use segments of movies under Fair Use policy (as an educational project) which doesn't require legal permission. What constitutes fair use is somewhat arbitrary, but on paper, commentary, research, parody and other transformative actions allow the use of a copyrighted work. I wish you luck for your creations :)
Superb content! Looking forward to the Boxer Rebellion videos. Do you plan on covering the Russo-Japanese war at some point (since it happened in China)?
Thanks, glad you liked it! I've briefly talked about the Russo-Japanese war in my Cixi part 2 video. I don't think I'll make a specific video about it, at least not any time soon
Tbh, Deng Shi Chang's ship Zhi Yuan was modeled to ram after the Qing government saw its effectiveness during the Battle of Lissa. Deng Shi Chang's order to ram Yoshino seemed heroic but it was what his ship was built to do.
Absolutely fantastic video. It makes me really annoyed that there could have been a huge chance that the Qing Empire could have prevailed until perhaps even today (in a way similar to Japan), if its court officials and leading figures had not been so greedy and so arrogant. If they had accepted that complete modernisation (what I like to call ,"Western methodology with an Eastern backbone" like what Japan did) I like to think that they would have done pretty well for themselves in this day and age and prevented the whole People's Republic nonsense.
You are right , as a Chinese I believe a modernised China adopting constitutional monarchy system like the British make more sense than a communist one which kills millions after millions of Chinese just because of ideological difference . As a matter of fact Guangxu Emperor wanted to do exactly this . During his hundred day reform , there was even talk of free speech and freedom of press, a parliament to be formed etc etc. Should he be succeed , Qing will be like modern day Japan and Britain , a modern and civilised democracy.
i used footage from "The Sino-Japanese War at Sea 1894" (2012), and "Emperor & Empress Meiji and the Sino-Japanese War" (1958). I add video credits in the description of my videos :)
The more recent one, The First Sino-Japanese War at Sea (2012) is from the PRC, and frankly not a very good film. The other is Japanese, and although the acting is much better, it's also very biased
Hi, if you're talking about the series, I probably won't talk about it since it's mainly fictional. I did talk a little bit about Zhen Huan (Empress Xiaoshengxian) in my Qianlong videos, though
A payback for humiliated the japanese ambassador before the foreign ministers by calling him and made fun of him about his height and understatement the japanese his pride and ego were dash off after the war and the qing court blame him
I say, in truth been thinking Israel attained victory over more numerous Arab is SHORT of unique. Japan a small nation compared to China and later Russia it defeated in turn, because *training* never lost priority. The skilled militaries used WESTERN TECHNIQUE - i,e. Training. Weeks I found parallel with Japan's and Israel's military conduct.
Brilliant video, and brilliant channel! Your research and name pronunciation leave others to shame. I thought I knew modern Chinese history, but I never knew about Taiwan rebellion against the Japanese takeover. And your small details like the Chinese admirals committing suicide by opium just adds to the story. If I could make one very small criticism, your maps are really bland, and a bit hard to follow. Perhaps show some of the graphically features of China would help. 😊
Guangxu was a visionary. If the officials just backed him up he would kick the ass of that xenophobic woman who ruined her country and the 100 days reform would bear its fruit that will lead China to modernization and industrialization which would give more jobs to his people nd to end the harsh sending of most Chinese to other countries just to be underpaid and discriminated. The reform can also highten the Chinese military's might and can grind teeth with Japan at any rate. The 100 days reform would be a great success if those power hungry officials just stop their greed for power and money. Corruption is the real root for a country's demise.
The later research show after the death dowager queen china, beiyang fleet army funding had been cut due the emperor believe japan will no go war with em or just having delusion that his army already strong...hahahaha.poor guy
I'm Japanese but I feel so sorry for what Japanese soldiers had done in the last 120 years . No they were not innocent just like any war victorious countries.
One thing you didn’t mentioned was admiral Ding Ruchang丁汝昌 was just a old school general from the army who had no modern warfare knowledge . Not to mention he knew nothing about how a modern navy operated because he was from the army. However actually there were a bunch of capable young graduates from the British Royal Navy academy who were forced to be under his command . Ding Ruchang reason to be appointed the commander of the navy ? His close connection with the prime minister -Li Hongzhang 李鴻章。 It tells just how Qing was corrupted to the core . A country which emphasises connection before personal talent and merit has no hope of success.
It is deeply sorrowful what happened to the Chinese Admiral, who was competent and devoted. He denied the chance to seek asylum in Japan and chose to follow the order for suicide after the battle. He was an honorable man serving a dishonorable court.
His loyalty was greatly respected in Japan, since it was similar to the Bushido philosophy
@@History_of_China yes, Admiral Togo spoke exceptionally highly of him in his later memoirs along with the legendary Korean Admiral Yi Sun Shin.
There's no doubt that he was a highly skilled officer, but his experience were limited to land warfare, having fought in both the Taiping and Nian rebellion.
The reason he was injured so early in the battle was because he stood too close to the main guns of the Chen Yuan when they were fired. He probably wanted to inspire his men with his personal bravery.
Me as well
@@wolfu597he was probably pissed off like how I would of been
The friendship between admirals are one of the greatest and grimmest moment of this war.
Viceroy Li Hongzhang, which was blamed for the defeats suffered by the Qing forces, advised against the war from the start. But court officials, sitting comfortably in the imperial palace, not only called him a coward, but also withheld ammunition and supplies when the war finally broke out.
It's hard to find anyone with his kind of competence, who's devoted so much of his life for his country, only to be blamed for failures, caused by circumstances beyond his control.
There are a lot of competent Chinese who are pulled down by the crabs inside their courts and government. Many of the competent and logical ones fled to greener pastures outside of China, those who are loyal stayed and is treated with treachery and betrayal.
"The defeat by Japan in the War of Jiawu was not merely a naval defeat or defeat of the army but a defeat of the nation"
- Liu Yazhou
Liu Yazhou is Joseph Goebbels of Xi regime.
Absolutely brilliant, 10/10: the chain of events chronologically, with maps and photos and short explanations, with names romanized and in Chinese characters/Kanji, and all of them correctly pronounced in all three languages Chinese, Korean and Japanese. Just marvellous!
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed :)
Pour one out for the dog of Deng Shichang. Whether this story is true or not there is no denying that dogs are the most loyal companions you can ever find. Their ability to love is limitless.
Highly likely it's true, apparently the captain's family and McGiffin interviewed survivors after the battle, and in the 1950s (or 60s?) some historians also managed to interview a surviving sailor of the cruiser Laiyuan, and in all three interviews there was the story of the captain and his dog (Details were slightly different though).
McGiffin actually worked closely with captain Deng in 1887 (or 1888? I forgot) when they sailed the Zhiyuan (newly bought from the UK) to China, and I remembered when he wrote about the foundering of the Zhiyuan for a newspaper, he referred captain Deng as his friend... Wonderful people.
A excellent episode to mirror the first Part. I am finishing my own part 2 for this event and I must say you have an excellent way of explaining the complicated story of corruption within the Qing Administration! I look forward to more of your work in the future =)
Thank you so much!
I am so glad I found your channel, thank you for the effort in making these videos. I am Chinese but live in California, so I really want to learn more about my history.
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoy my work!
Your pronunciation is really excellent.
So actually true
Nice video, I m looking forward to the boxer rebellion and emperor xuanthong (puyi) video.加油❤️
Was just about to say I'd love to see a video on Puyi
Why were Qing armies in this conflict so small? It seems like they barely mobilized more than 20,000 men for this war, despite its clear importance.
It seems that the different Qing generals refused to help each other out. Overall, it was bad management
Different commanders are belongs to their own clans, thus their forces are self owned rather owned by the central government. This situation days back to the war between Qing and taiping heavenly kingdom, when the central government can not conscript as much forces as possible. The government decided to motivate local governors build up forces locally, in order to defense themselves ,and if possible , defeat the taiping rebellions. After this war, those governors turned became more and more powerful, even interfere national affairs. This grown to be a really serious problem in China ,during the first half of 20th century ,when the warlords separated and conflicted each other.
During the first sino-Japanese war , Li hongzhang commanded the Beiyang fleet and the huaijun army clan. Ding ruchang, ye zhichao and Song Qing are belongs to this clan. It seems they can fight together, yet they are not prepared and underestimated third enemy. If defeated, they prefer to flee or committed suicide. They cares more about the number of their own forces than battle itself. If you are defeated and suffered great casualties, he will soon be impeached or crowded out.
Unfortunately , the Qing commanders seldom know about modern war, they seldom win the fight, even though they are armed by advanced weapon. This is the lesson.
It surprised me too especially during the opium wars. The previous numbers of sokdiers numbering hundreds of thousands was probably only on paper and greatly exagerrated.
Now i dont believe the numbers presented for the battles and casualties of the taiping rebellion which was supposedly in the millions
@@wentaosong thankyou m
Extraordinario documental, muchas gracias. Y enhorabuena desde España
Gracias a usted :)
Thank you for all the time and effort you give to make these videos and share them with us.
Great video, I was looing forward to this after the last one and it did not disappoint.
I love this channel. Can't wait to go deeper into China's history.
Could you one day make an video with an intense overview of the japanese-meiji empire?
Regarding constitution, internal boundaries civil servants, role and position of the prefectures etc.
Well, maybe there are not that many people how are interested in this Kind of Info :)
I'm conflicted. My channel is based on the history of China, although Japanese history is just as fascinating. It's not in my projects for the moment, but I'll keep it in mind :)
@@History_of_China I can fully understand that.
Looking forward to your next videos and maybe one day ... ;)
I am impressed you managed to get this out fairly quickly history of China! I really enjoyed this video! Although I will mention the one mistake that you made. Tibet wasn't independent in the map that you first showed. That broke away in 1911 when the Qing Empire began to collapse. Secondly, I would change the colour scheme of Manchuria when a foreign power has control of it. So for example, when the Japanese conquered a part of Manchuria, make it become light red so it shows that it's occupied by the Japanese. This would make it much easier to visualise the battle.
Finally, my suggestion after this video would be to do the Japanese Invasion of Taiwan 1895. Taiwan is (as you probably know as I saw your Chinese Civil War Video) officially called the Republic of China. So I still think you should cover the conflict on your channel! And it would lead on great from the end of this video! Keep up the good work! Chinese history is fascinating. I am looking forward to your next video! 🙂
Thank you! Concerning Tibet, I've always represented it as part of the Qing dynasty but not annexed since it had more autonomy than regions like Mongolia or Xinjiang (thus within the borders, but in a different colour).
After this video, I've planned to do the Boxer Rebellion and then Emperor Puyi to close off the Qing series, though I'd eventually like to talk more about Taiwan :)
I'll keep in mind the colour change for invasions and occupation though :) Thanks for following!
Have you thought about making a video about the daily activities and schedule of the Qing emperors? I understand their daily logs are preserved
I've considered it, but since I've talked so much about the Qing already, I'll probably keep it for another time :)
@@History_of_China Gotcha! Keep up the good work. Just out of curiosity, where do you study?
This is an excellent overview. The documentary hits the main points. And covers the main personalities. But I was a bit surprised that the ending did not include the Japanese assassination of Korea's Queen Min. Her death in October 1895 is what really allowed Japan free reign, as they had viewed her as the power behind the throne, so to speak. Among other things, she had actively courted Russia, and to a lesser extent America, as a counterweight to Japan. But perhaps including her would have made the narrative too complicated.
Thank you! I judged saying Japan would eventually annex Korea was enough, as more info would have diverged from the subject
Outstanding work mate. The sino Japanese war certainly explains how things turn out in the boxer rebellion.
Thank you so much!
A lot of people are saying it, but it's actually true: this is an excellent channel waiting to blow up.
All videos have solid research behind, and the chinese pronunciation is so nice to hear, for a change! Keep the great work.
Thank you so much :)
As always - wonderfully produced video! Keep up the great work!!!
Grazie !
As always a video of great quality and interest :p can't help but have pity for the Beiyang Fleet ; and for the choice of developping marine instead of land military techs from the Tonghzi era onwards
I love this channel and it’s what’s peaked my interest in Chinese history thank you
Your pronounciation of the name of the Chinese battleship, fortress, region, and famous Chinese figure are really good. Just wondering are you Chinese?
Thank you! I am not, but I studied a bit of Chinese at school a few years back :)
Still your Chinese are brilliant.
Admiral Ito Sukeyuki is a descendent of the Ito Clan, which was powerful in Kyushu
Yay part 2! Watching now!
Part of the reason for the Port Arthur massacre, was the discovery of the bodies of about 33 Japanese soldiers that had been captured by the Qing forces 8-10 days before the city fell. All of them had been beheaded, some had been tortured before their execution.
Hmm. There were several thousand death because of Japanese retaliation.
In that case, i can see where the Japanese were coming from
Please make a video about China's point of view of the Korean war
I'll keep it in mind! For the moment I'm going to focus on Imperial China though
Great work as always mate!
The same excuse of Soldiers in citizen clothing would be a widely used excuse for the Nanjing Massacre and other related autrocities in China
Another great story telling! Just something I notice is that you use simplified Chinese for your videos. Why is that? I just thought since it's history, shouldn't traditional be used? Just a suggestion.
Thanks so much! Since I'd like to shed light on these fascinating subjects to a large audience, I decided to use simplified rather than traditional characters. I might change in my future videos, though
Only a partial military modernization occurred, and despite the existence of another (Southern) fleet it had no single command. The same applied to the army. Additionally, the armies were based on the forces that the provincial Tuan raised, guaranteeing widely varying equipment, training and effectivenesx. The best troops were supposedly in the region of the war, and many of its troops (now its officers) had been recruited for the Taiping Rebellion, and stiill served since there was no retirement system. The quality of its troops had declined after years of garrison duty with little chance of promotion. The other reasons mentioned were al true as well.
heard that the qing armies still used swords and spears in this conflcit。
A good amount did, yeah, but muskets and modern Western firearms were available to them, getting ammo for them was a nightmare though.
Edit: to be fair to the Qing, they did defeat the French on land using that army XD
To some Chinese Historians they believe that the reason China lost the First Sino Japanese War, were also because Japan was able to successfully hack the Chinese military telegraph system. So as a result Japan was able to see all the secret move that China was planning.
Also some Chinese Historians stated that Japan’s battleship artillery are more faster to load than the Chinese battleship artillery.
I mean they were (the Japanese) more exposed to western technology which was superior in that time
Underrated channel. I love how you pronounce all the names.
Thanks!
Great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed!
Brilliant deep dive there. Keep up these vids . I find them fascinating 😀
Thank you! I will :)
Good thing I got to this channel before you blow up and get monetized, no ads baby
I don't intend to run chaotic ads on my videos :) I will possibly accept sponsorships in the future, though
Love your content, Very informative.
Glad you enjoy :)
A Fantastic video 👏👏👏👏
I already subscribed 👍👍👍
It's Reparation not Reperation
Also, why did you write 拼音 for The End?
Was that a mistake too?
Thanks! Yeah, they are both mistakes, not gonna lie I was very busy and tired while editing the video, and missed them. Sorry about that!
@@History_of_China no prob man, love your content!
Would be great if i can help
Great video as always...very comprehensive.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed :)
I'm really looking forward to watching what you research and present on the cultural revolution. I know it is far away.
Great content. Thanks for posting.
Thank you!
Amazing job mate! Do you have a Patreon by any chance? Would love to support your work.
Thank you so much! I don't, although I have recently opened a paypal for people who would like to donate (links in the description). Glad you enjoy :)
Dude your videos are awesome. Such a fascinating period in history.
Question: You sound like an English person, but are you French? Every now and then I hear the slightest hint of Frenchness in your voice but maybe i'm imaginging it :)
Thank you so much! I must say you're quite observant: I am actually half English and half French :)
@@History_of_China ahha, incredible. Honestly it's only the tiniest things that made me think you might have some French background. In fact, I never probably would have guessed at all (and thus started looking for clues you might have some French background), except when I heard you pronoucne some of the French place names, it was simply way too good for a native english speaker.
Good on you for making these. I love Chinese history. I went to China maybe 4 years ago now, went to all the main tourist attractions in Beijing and in Xian. But there is nothing like this for tourists. The signs tell you the size of buildings, when they were first built. There's no narrative though. No explanations (I suppose this is what I should expect for a country without proper freedom of speech, and which had the cultural revolution :S). Thank you for shedding light on what was an absolutely fascinating era of history. I mean even just the boxer rebellion, crazy, imagine it, an eight nation army taking over the capital of the celestial empire, the same countries that would fight two world wars. Against people with long queues, believing they were invicincible to bullets. I also see now from your videos the fracturing of central power and how the civil war/age of warlords could have started. Good on you man. Keep it up :)
Great job!
Thank you :)
What I like about the Qing dynasty is that how they refused to never give up! 😤 Japan only became so good because they adopted new western war tech and strategies..
it was because they were overly complacent and for many years they have thought of themselves as an overlord in the region although their military might has waned drastically compared to the rest of the world..the Japanese also were equally if not more prideful and would rather die before surrendering as shown in WW2.
Every single Asian country that has adopted Western values became successful. Japan was first with Meiji
@@timurermolenko2013 wrong china is rising again. China is the direct rival to the USA and threatens to take hegemony
@@HungryWolf04 how wrong? Japan westernized itself, and in mere decades humiliated Russia and subjugated a good portion of Asia. RoC became one of the most advanced nations after adopting capitalism, South Korea made a jump from the third to first world in 40 years, while their northern counterparts died from starvation after ending of soviet donations.
@@timurermolenko2013 you said "every single " Look at the Philippines 350 years under spanish rule and occupied the the USA today and still a 3 world country. Look at Japan now just a pet to the USA.
When your mandate of heaven is low and your forces receive +50% fire and shock damage
Can you make the video of the Sino-French War for the control of North Vietnam? This war is similar to the first Sino-Japanese war.
Hi, I've been wanting to make that video for a while, and eventually will, but I'll have to finish the Yuan and do the Ming dynasties first :)
Lushunkuo became Port Arthur after the Western powers force Japan to abandon it and the Peninsula. The Rusdians than took it from the Chinese those helping set the stage for the Russo-Japanese War of 1904/05.
Just stunning incompetence to strike a reef during a retreat is tragically sad.
where do you get the dramatized footage? Is this from some movie or TV Drama?
I remember seeing them in full. They're so bad, trust me.
They are both films, I've linked them in the description. I have to say though they are very biased and not historically accurate
This war changed history forever.
The Shiminoseki Peace Treaty
The Shiminoseki Treaty is the Evidence of Taiwan 🇹🇼 was CEDED to Japan during the 1895 Sino Japanese War and Korea Kingdom was founded away from China 🇨🇳
Yuki no shingun koori wo funde
Dore ga kawa yara michi sae shirezu
Uma wa taoreru sutete mo okezu
Koko wa izuku zo mina teki no kuni
Mama yo daitan ippuku yareba
Tanomi sukunaya tabako ga nihon
Yakanu himono ni han-nie meshi ni
Namaji inochi no aru sono uchi wa
Korae kirenai samusa no takibi
Kemui hazu da yo namaki ga iburu
Shibui kao shite kōmyō banashi
"Sui" to iu no wa umeboshi hitotsu
Ki nomi ki no mama kiraku na fushido
Hainō makura ni gaitō kaburya
Sena no nukumi de yuki doke kakaru
Yagu no kibigara shippori nurete
Musubi kanetaru roei no yume wo
Tsuki wa tsumetaku kao nozokikomu
Inochi sasagete detekita mi yue
Shinuru kakugo de tokkan suredo
Buun tsutanaku uchiji ni seneba
Giri ni karameta jūppei mawata
Sorori sorori to kubi shime kakaru
Dōse ikashite kaesanu tsumori
Absolute banger.
I like that japanese art of the battles. whats that style called? so cool
The general style is Ukiyo-e 浮世絵 (woodblock printing, lit. "pictures of the floating world"), but this subgenre is called Senso-e 戦争絵 ("pictures of war"). It developped drastically in the late 19th and early 20th century as Japan became more and more militaristic.
You come close to correclty pronouncing Qing.
Though back then it was transliterated as Ts, there is no s in there.
T+K+Ch+H+Ing say it all at once and very fast that's the sound it makes.
The sound doesn't exist in English. It's a T with a heavily aspirated dry KCH after that.
-ing = glottal
-in = nasal
both sound like english "ing" because english doesn't clearly distinguish whether the G in ing is enunciated or not.
As he mentioned in the comments he did study Chinese and since he was able to pronounce most words right, I think it may be a case where he knows the pronunciation but can’t quite manage it. Just like how speakers of non trill languages can hear the rolled r just fine but simply can’t do it.
I love the footage . May I ask what the copyright laws are for this kind of thing? (Respectfully asking as a creator not to be a troll)
Thanks! I took clips from two films :
* The Sino-Japanese War at Sea 1894 (2012)
* Emperor & Empress Meiji and the Sino-Japanese War (1958)
In many of my videos, I use segments of movies under Fair Use policy (as an educational project) which doesn't require legal permission. What constitutes fair use is somewhat arbitrary, but on paper, commentary, research, parody and other transformative actions allow the use of a copyrighted work.
I wish you luck for your creations :)
Great !!
Superb content! Looking forward to the Boxer Rebellion videos. Do you plan on covering the Russo-Japanese war at some point (since it happened in China)?
Thanks, glad you liked it! I've briefly talked about the Russo-Japanese war in my Cixi part 2 video. I don't think I'll make a specific video about it, at least not any time soon
Tbh, Deng Shi Chang's ship Zhi Yuan was modeled to ram after the Qing government saw its effectiveness during the Battle of Lissa. Deng Shi Chang's order to ram Yoshino seemed heroic but it was what his ship was built to do.
Excellent Chinese pronunciation. Are you Chinese?
Thank you so much! I am not, but I studied it a bit in school a few years back :)
Notification squad!!
Absolutely fantastic video. It makes me really annoyed that there could have been a huge chance that the Qing Empire could have prevailed until perhaps even today (in a way similar to Japan), if its court officials and leading figures had not been so greedy and so arrogant. If they had accepted that complete modernisation (what I like to call ,"Western methodology with an Eastern backbone" like what Japan did) I like to think that they would have done pretty well for themselves in this day and age and prevented the whole People's Republic nonsense.
You are right , as a Chinese I believe a modernised China adopting constitutional monarchy system like the British make more sense than a communist one which kills millions after millions of Chinese just because of ideological difference . As a matter of fact Guangxu Emperor wanted to do exactly this . During his hundred day reform , there was even talk of free speech and freedom of press, a parliament to be formed etc etc. Should he be succeed , Qing will be like modern day Japan and Britain , a modern and civilised democracy.
Love it//
What's the name of the movie in this video?
i used footage from "The Sino-Japanese War at Sea 1894" (2012), and "Emperor & Empress Meiji and the Sino-Japanese War" (1958). I add video credits in the description of my videos :)
谢谢你
Love from bangladesh!
These movies you use are from PRC or Taiwan?
Both PRC and Japanese films.
The more recent one, The First Sino-Japanese War at Sea (2012) is from the PRC, and frankly not a very good film. The other is Japanese, and although the acting is much better, it's also very biased
Why write 拼音 for The End at 13:55
That was an unfortunate typo :/
It's ok, I was just wondering, the rest of the content is great!@@History_of_China
can you do the legend of zhen huan please
Hi, if you're talking about the series, I probably won't talk about it since it's mainly fictional. I did talk a little bit about Zhen Huan (Empress Xiaoshengxian) in my Qianlong videos, though
What movie is that by the way ? Where to get it ?
When I made this video, both films were availabe on TH-cam
@@History_of_China Is there a full movie of it ?
@@nicktan4530 th-cam.com/video/bJvYZ25-wSA/w-d-xo.html Here is a link, but there are no subtitles though
@@History_of_China Where do get the one with subtitle ? Do you understand without subtitle ?
The heck was that Japanese student thinking shooting a high official?
A payback for humiliated the japanese ambassador before the foreign ministers by calling him and made fun of him about his height and understatement the japanese his pride and ego were dash off after the war and the qing court blame him
I say, in truth been thinking Israel attained victory over more numerous Arab is SHORT of unique. Japan a small nation compared to China and later Russia it defeated in turn, because *training* never lost priority. The skilled militaries used WESTERN TECHNIQUE - i,e. Training.
Weeks I found parallel with Japan's and Israel's military conduct.
Chinese navy uniforms during this war were just terrible
Brilliant video, and brilliant channel! Your research and name pronunciation leave others to shame.
I thought I knew modern Chinese history, but I never knew about Taiwan rebellion against the Japanese takeover.
And your small details like the Chinese admirals committing suicide by opium just adds to the story.
If I could make one very small criticism, your maps are really bland, and a bit hard to follow. Perhaps show some of the graphically features of China would help. 😊
Thanks for your input!
Guangxu was a visionary. If the officials just backed him up he would kick the ass of that xenophobic woman who ruined her country and the 100 days reform would bear its fruit that will lead China to modernization and industrialization which would give more jobs to his people nd to end the harsh sending of most Chinese to other countries just to be underpaid and discriminated. The reform can also highten the Chinese military's might and can grind teeth with Japan at any rate. The 100 days reform would be a great success if those power hungry officials just stop their greed for power and money. Corruption is the real root for a country's demise.
The Chinese wouldn’t be so “humiliated “ if they didn’t always run away….
when soldiers are low in morale, they always flee like cowards
whats it like having your most popular video be the qing harem system lol
The later research show after the death dowager queen china, beiyang fleet army funding had been cut due the emperor believe japan will no go war with em or just having delusion that his army already strong...hahahaha.poor guy
aye
I'm Japanese but I feel so sorry for what Japanese soldiers had done in the last 120 years . No they were not innocent just like any war victorious countries.
Common Japanese W 🥱🇯🇵
Why didn't Japan just annex Korea after the war?
Why did they just free Korea from China then shortly invade them?
雪の進軍 氷を踏んで
何處が河やら 道さへ知れず
馬は斃れる 捨てゝもおけず
此處は何處ぞ 皆敵の國
儘まよ大膽 一服やれば
頼み少なや 煙草が二本
是敗局而不是拼音
One thing you didn’t mentioned was admiral Ding Ruchang丁汝昌 was just a old school general from the army who had no modern warfare knowledge . Not to mention he knew nothing about how a modern navy operated because he was from the army. However actually there were a bunch of capable young graduates from the British Royal Navy academy who were forced to be under his command .
Ding Ruchang reason to be appointed the commander of the navy ? His close connection with the prime minister -Li Hongzhang 李鴻章。
It tells just how Qing was corrupted to the core . A country which emphasises connection before personal talent and merit has no hope of success.
Desirezon
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是馬關條約而不是下關條約
Even though the Japanese ultimately lost in the war and did so many horrible stuff, I think they were still extremely smart people.
Japan is an ancient part of China. According to some source.
this has to be a joke right?
India is also part of china. Thanks for confirming
Japan was a vassal of China at one point. Not sure if it has ever been a part of China.
According to the source dogs used to be chinese
Qing dynasty thinks that they're still ruled by emperor as competent as kangxi or qianlong