Respected Doctor Faces Career Ending Accusations | New Amsterdam
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2023
- Iggy (Tyler Labine) struggles with an accusation brought against him and Sharpe (Freema Agyeman) navigates her role as Deputy Medical Director.
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Season 1, Episode 21, This is Not The End,
Max (Ryan Eggold) goes head to head with hospital administration when he comes up with a new plan for patients without insurance. Also starring Janet Montgomery as Lauren Bloom, Anupam Kher as Vijay Kapoor and Jocko Sims as Floyd Reynolds. Guest starring Margot Bingham as Evie Garrison and Nana Mensah as Dr. Candelario.
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In the wake of the ambulance crash that ended Season 1, medical director Dr. Max Goodwin grieves the death of his wife, Georgia, and learns the difficulties of being a single parent - all the while continuing his commitment to solve systemic health care issues at the hospital. Add in his new responsibilities as a father and with cancer still lingering in the rearview mirror, everyone around Max must wonder how long he can sustain this impossible load. But "How can I help?" is not just Max's catchphrase, it's his reason for living. As long as he's helping others, Max is able to find hope in the most hopeless of places. The cast includes Ryan Eggold, Janet Montgomery, Freema Agyeman and Jocko Sims, with Tyler Labine and Anupam Kher.
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ABOUT NEW AMSTERDAM
In the wake of the ambulance crash that ended Season 1, medical director Dr. Max Goodwin grieves the death of his wife, Georgia, and learns the difficulties of being a single parent - all the while continuing his commitment to solve systemic health care issues at the hospital. Add in his new responsibilities as a father and with cancer still lingering in the rearview mirror, everyone around Max must wonder how long he can sustain this impossible load. But "How can I help?" is not just Max's catchphrase, it's his reason for living. As long as he's helping others, Max is able to find hope in the most hopeless of places. The cast includes Ryan Eggold, Janet Montgomery, Freema Agyeman and Jocko Sims, with Tyler Labine and Anupam Kher.
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Once you get an accusation like that made against you, no matter if you're innocent and it's eventually proven, you're branded for life and it never goes away.
Especially if you’re male.
So after everything, they broke him a great therapist, now rethinking his methods because they were questioned. So sad
I’m so sick of them making his story line so traumatic , it’s like he could never get a break 😢
I agree with you on the one hand, but on the other hand it would be a very boring show if everything always went right and nothing bad ever happened.
That is indeed the case for many
Recycling the leftover food people once ate because the writers refuse to cook anything new. How did you idiots manage to WORSEN the food bill?!
Healthcare worker here, I've had the friendliest families or patients suddenly turn on their caregivers. Best to keep that distance, when people are ill, emotions fluctuate, and perceptions change with illness.
My wonderful mom quit her job and went to another city to take care of her father in law when he had major surgery. She took care of him for a good couple of months. Took care of him physically, bought and cooked food, took care of his bills, cleaned his house and so on. He was grateful at the time. Then when she returned home, she discovered that others had been telling him that she had stole money and took advantage of him. He never spoke to her again. It broke her heart. Illness and bad influencers. The influencers got the majority of his estate when he passed. They did a good number on his mind.
@@sheilaross792😢god so sorry
Those questions are weighted to make anyone look bad. So many things are a minefield these days. Just being a good person isn't enough. You seem to have to weigh every action and word prior to implementation. Feels like walking on eggshells.
Sometimes a hug is the best therapy you can get.
3:15. Not always. Some patients need that physical comfort. Damn.
As a mental health therapist I walk a thin line between my patients and the unprofessional. Hearing some of the stories all you want to do is hug them and let them know they aren’t alone
Honestly it’s more unprofessional than abusive
Y’all made him feel disgusting for what he does and now y’all are thanking him as if those questions and thought won’t be running through his head he will constantly ask himself if a child is uncomfortable around him and that’s hurtful he is an amazing doctor on this show and has saved many children she wanted to make him look like a monster and she got her wish smh 🤦🏾♀️
Every doctor should always be questioning if a child is uncomfortable. That’s called being professional.
@@ragingzim questioned not accused everyone is innocent until proven guilty they didn’t even care to ask they just gave him a guilty verdict before even hearing his side that’s not right and that’s how a lot of innocent people get convicted
When i saw that, I was a bit shocked and wonder is this how it really is in real life? I was an infant and 3 year old lead teacher and I am know pursuing a Psych degree. This will be hard for me because some children NEED affection, however I CAN understand where they are coming from. You have to not only protect the children but also yourself. HOWEVER, working with children on the spectrum, I learned boundaries. Some don’t like to be touched. So i would ask the little ones, “do you want a hug?” First
sometimes some one needs a hug
Maybe a good rule of thumb would be "Never initiate, only reciprocate"?
Other than that, I don't think you can make any rules that don't end up costing lives
I always loved this doctor on this show.
How is that unprofessional?! It's Human!
I mean to a degree but I’ve never been hugged or even a touch on the shoulder by my psychiatrist and honestly that would be awkward. This doctor and any doctor isn’t suppose to ever touch a patient in any way unless there trying to harm someone of themselves. People have trauma. I don’t like to be touched. Even when someone puts there hand on my shoulder I sometimes flinch. His job especially is dealing with people with very delicate pasts.
@@jilla-dr9hu my drs ask before that.. even a hand shake is with verbal permission..but at this situation he acted human but not professional true.. HOWEVER NOT ABUSE!
it's just the actions that triggered the trauma in That boy..
@@FullTimePatient37 but at the end of the day its not up to us or them to say what is and isnt abuse to someone. When it comes to abuse accusation, if the victim says its abuse then it HAS to bee looked at as abuse until discovered otherwise.
An example is holding onto someone wrist.if someone holds onto anothers wrist and they dont do anything then we can say its not abuse but to the victim it is because they didnt want to be held but were too afraid to say anything
You don't understand I have been accountantly sessions where I didn't even have the words to say
Sometimes the only way somebody could get through to me was putting a hand on my shoulder.
What kind of counseling do they think is effective
I like his freckles he acts tough but he is pretty sweet. In real life these happen persons who were abused abuse others its not good and not sure why it happens
i am a total of 2 minutes in and i dont understand why theyre being so nasty to him, he brought kids birthday gifts and smores?? is that illegal
Because a fictional tv character was exonerated is not a reason to omit putting safety guidelines into place.
@@ragingzim I hadn't watched the rest, it hadnt got to the other part, if you had read it says I was 2 minutes in
@@sachikawaii so you changed your mind?
@@ragingzim well no I still think it's dumb for him to get in trouble for being kind. I still think it should be okay to comfort patients with a hug or pat on the shoulder too. Obviously I'm aware there's context
Because Predators go to where the Prey is.
Hospitals. Schools. Law enforcement. Daycare. Defence forces.
Those gestures that we do out of kindness and compassion predators will use those same actions and behaviours and words as bait.
And, this is why we can't have nice things.
Disgusting how they treated him
I wish this show hadn't enter so soon. I wanted more than five seasons of Max helping.
When he said he felt loved by Mr.Iggy❤....
Then to hear his story ...an its his aunt ...smh....
Omgawd💔🙏🏽😔
hes being used as a scapegoat
i did one behavioral health rotation and i was taught NEVER touch a child unless they ask for a hug or something. i've carried this throughout my life cause honestly it's a great rule to have (and i'm a touchy feely person with my friends and family). but strangers/kids are off limits. he should absolutely know this.
this episode broke me...
edit : my stance on this has changed thanks to further education and two lovely people taking the time to type out well thought out messages on why it would likely just be bad all around unless a patient asks and even then professional boundaries need to be kept. i will be leaving my original comment as is for anyone else who would like context for what the others have said :)
as someone getting their masters in counseling and psychology i totally disagree with not being allowed to touch anyone. i get it without invitation it can be a bad idea, but it shouldn’t be such a serious offense to touch someone’s shoulder or knee unprompted. sit them down, have a discussion, and then move on. let the therapist learn to ask their patients if it’s alright to give reassuring pats at the start of sessions. i think that would be much more helpful
@@mariamsixarulidze3166 thank you so much for your comment. that was actually very insightful and meaningful to hear. i’m 2 years away from even getting my license to practice so i have time to learn the full scale of things but i appreciate hearing different perspectives. arguably the hardest part of being a therapist is making sure you don’t get attached to patients. i will keep your comment in mind as i go into my practice. :)
Being invited to by a patient is one thing, but asking patients if they would like physical contact can also cause issues, depending on how it is phrased. A Therapist can often be conflated with authority, especially in children, and a patient may not feel comfortable or just able to say no. A patient may also not want to displease/disappoint or give the impression of rejecting the therapist, and feel coerced into saying yes. It's a very fine line to walk. I have autism so I became very comfortable very early rejecting physical touch and it's never been a problem for me to say no to anyone. However, I have some relatives with a lot of anxiety and self esteem issues that also don't like physical contact but have never been able to properly advocate for themselves. I know if a therapist directly asked them if physical contact way okay, they would say yes, despite it not being okay. One way to avoid accidentally pressuring them can be to present several options for potential reassurance, with some involving no physical contact, so the patient doesn't feel led to a particular choice.
You should reevaluate your position before getting your masters
@@bryanandhallie i’m fresh out of undergrad. i have 2 years before i complete the program and i just started my masters this semester so i have time to learn and grow
@@calleythompson2781 as i said to the other kind person who replied thank you so much for your input. i always viewed it as a more personal choice but the more i learn and reflect on my own experiences the less i feel confident about the idea of a therapist touching someone unless they ask for it.
While I agree that you should always ask for consent before physical touch, unless of course you really know the person and they trust you, I feel like these questions are worded in such a way that the person answering them can be villified very easily. In this case, Iggy's methods were questioned to such a degree that from that moment on he would start to question himself, which is heartbreaking considering he's such a fantastic therapist who has helped so many kids and people in general. However, I completely understand why these rules are in place, because it's for the safety of the patients. It's just sad when it's the good doctors who are accused of harming patients.
Iggie is awesome
So he catered to the need of children based on what they needed and he’s getting in trouble for it?
Honestly now in america every job seems like walking on egg shells
I lived in taiwan for twenty years and I came back at five months ago
Can't believe how carefully you have to be about things that are nothing
It's pretty stressful
Trust me. It isn't walking on eggshells
@@danerook its walking on a damn minefield.
“We all go the extra mile around here”
This isn’t about everyone else this is about you”
(In my head) do the bare minimum so I don’t get in trouble got it
I'm just wondering what Americans think of the presumption of innocence (defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty) as a basic concept of the rule of law.
It's supposed to be that way but depending on what you look like it can be the opposite. The court of public opinion can really do a number even after you're found to be innocent.
It's a good rule.
Bruh 5? 5? How sick do ya have to be?
I stopped watching the series after this storyline. It just put me off. Iggy was one of my favorite characters.
Some of these rules are ridiculous and are the reason some people don’t trust doctors
The same observed physical action can have totally different motivations behind them.
Our experiences colour our perceptions.
One person thinks they see comfort.
Another person thinks they see predation.
Yet another will see something else entirely.
The person who witnessed the touching on the head did the right thing by reporting it.
The deputy medical director did the right thing by investigating it.
The psychiatrist did the right thing by re-evaluating his methods.
Avoiding the appearance of impropriety is important, and is proactive, not reactive.
Disregarding potential and/or covering up actual impropriety is always the wrong decision.
The only way this haunts his reputation forever is if he already has this reputation and/or refuses to change his approach.
Working with vulnerable people is a whole collection of things that can go wrong
What’s so wrong he was trying to help it’s only a problem if it’s sexual
Because it removes any ambiguities in those behaviors, an interpretation of the action isn't necessary if the action doesn't happen in the first place. Also you can never actually know the motive if the person.
Finally it's like how bosses in a workplace shouldn't offer sex, even harmlessly, to employees because that boss is the only person in that interaction that actually knows if there is anything nefarious that is happening or could happen in the future.
It's actually about consent. If someone touches you and you don't like it then it doesn't matter if it's sexual or not. That way of thinking allows people to abuse their power, and they have. We know these characters because it's what the show allows us to see. If this was IRL then we'd be questioning the doctor because this does happen. It's why doctors need to be professional and not play favorites, its also why laws are in place. It's also why it's hard at times for people like this therapist because they care too much that they don't care about themselves.
It’s being labeled a witch.
Two minutes in and I'm done. The process is so absurd that it's not worth the effort.
What epispde was this
i like how matha is still working at a hospital, maybe this is before she meets the doctor lol
or after
😢
Early!!! 🎉
This angers me
0:12 bingo that’s her
Huh?
@@stephenking5852 Martha Jones
I suggest people read laws regarding therapists and how they should begave with a patient, as well as watch/read IRL therapists and how they conduct their sessions. There are law in places to protect both patient and doctor. If the doctor doesnt get permission then they shouldn't touch ESPECIALLY in therapy. People get triggered and can get aggressive or they can misinterpret their actions as malicious. Idk if this therapists did, but you need permission aka consent by the patient especially if they are kids because they are minors. Thats why this situation is so bad, he touched a minor(nonsexually yes) that wasnt family. Theres a reason why docotrs need to leace Familia connection behind. You can emphasize qnd sympathize and comfort the paitents, but ONLY if they give permission. At times paitents will even ask.
This is a show and know how the characters really act, but IRL is different. People have assulted and taken advantage of people both as a doctor and a patient. Its also why doctors should sit so close to them. Please understand that real legal consequences occur when people are too nice or ignorant about this.
Martha Jones!!!!!!!!!
5:30 That's the issue, he's acting like a saint rather than a professional. If you want to help someone as a medical professional, then remain a professional. Therapists shouldn't touch a patient without consent, especially if a patient doesn't bloody ask. Usually it's a pat on a shoulder or on the arm.
You don't know what you're talking about.
He doesn’t act like a saint Iggie was emotionally abused/ignored. He was a struggling kid but everyone always went to him to talk or vent. He became a therapist that could help others in ways he wasn’t helped . The boy in the video was hurt by a family member and projected it on the Dr.
Luckily Iggie story does end a little better and he remains a lovely therapist ❤
child intensive therapy is different. a lot of kids NEED love and positive reinforcement and positive physical touch (hugs, pts on the back,, high fives, smaller kids like to be held sometimes) because the lines have been blurred so much by trauma. it's human nature to comfort children literally plus he's a parent. he didn't do anything wrong
Do you need a hug (smile)?
@@drsteveaplier7646Actually that is a rule in therapy. If this is about them saying he shouldnt touch the kid then hes right. The therapist is allowed to ask if the paitent would like to be comforted because of situations like this. A lot is at stake when dealing with people because ypu never know how they will react. Doesn't matter of the paitent is a child or adult, unless asked or getting permission therapists shouldn't touch that's not their job nor does it require them to touch people.
If you were talking about what they said about his character, then I have no opinion on that.
load of crap that hugs are against therapy. hugs are great for therapy. i know i go to therapy
Yes and no. Hugs can be a powerful thing for someone in need but for others it's the opposite. It just depends on the patient.
I love how in every investigation ever the context is not relevant. Only simple yes or no awnsers matter. Its almost like they never understand that life isnt black and white only
I understand how this poor kid feels.
I was thirteen. Had of all the perverts in my life before the age of thirteen
That person was the hardest to get over.
It's a nice once that screw you up.
When somebody's angry and screwed up you have an idea of what's wrong.
I can only say i'm thankful that i'm a christian
I think if I hadn't experienced the healing that I have in Jesus. I probably would have a harder time dealing with it.
I don't understand why we don't have strict your policies for people who are abusers
I lived in taiwan for twenty years and I came back five months
I'm now learning about something called maps
I cannot believe that in america they accept this
I lived in california tonight was twenty three
I just don't understand
Deadass no one accepts pedophiles. They just call themselves maps to latch onto lgbt acceptance even though they're not even part of the community.
This is freaking pathetic
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get off it, shannon 💀💀
What do you mean?
Found the inbred hillbilly from Appalachia
Shannon did a racism
He did nothing wrong, end of story.