Does Pilot's Bipolar Disorder Cause Plane Crash? | New Amsterdam
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- A plane crash lands in the East River. When investigators come to interrogate the flight crew, Iggy fights against the clock to help the pilot uncover the truth.
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Season 3, Episode 1, The New Normal
New Amsterdam is still reeling from the COVID-19 pandemic as a plane crash lands in the East River. When investigators come to interrogate the flight crew, Iggy fights against the clock to help the pilot uncover the truth.
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for those who didn't watch the full episode: the plane went down to to a mechanical error leading to false readings, one the pilot caught, which led to him doing the water landing. problem was, in trying to save the plane, it looked like he was trying to crash it. but with the co-pilot unconscious and pilot himself not remembering the crash well (and him hiding his bipolar diagnosis), investigators (and the pilot himself) believe that he deliberately crashed the plane due to having an episode. this is further reinforced by the discovery of the black box recording of the crash, which includes audio of what sounds like the co-pilot briefly trying to stop him from taking the plane into a dive before she realized what was happening, and him, seemingly 'incoherent,' repeating numbers that are later revealed to be the deisgnator of a flight that crashed due to a similar error. the co-pilot wakes up before the pilot is taken away by authorities.
Which ep is it
3:19 that direct look into the camera made me shiver
“…like you’re going insane.”
Yeah, that’s just…yikes, it’s chilling
As someone with a neurological disorder, this hits really close to me. I take medication for it and I try my best to not let it impede my life or effect those around me but because of how a lot of people treat those who are neurodivergent or have mental illnesses as if they're inherently incompetent or unfit. There are times where even when I do everything right but things still go wrong, I end up internalizing it as if it eas my fault and I wasn't trying hard enough.
Okay dude, but in the end you're responsable for taking up your responsabilités and duties and treatment, or not.
With a broken leg it's difficult to run. My friend's son dreamt of becoming a truckdriver since his second birthday. Before starting his school he was tester with not that good eyes. It was a surprise, but he switched careerdreams and is working as a carmechanic now...Life is adaptation. I don't like jow this doctor handles his patients .
@@BE-bs8oethat's not what the person was saying
They're talking about situations where things go wrong for reasons that aren't the person's fault, but people still act like they are just because the person is mentally ill.
Like, for example, a person with ADHD has problems with managing time. The person is taking medication, prepares everything ahead and sets up alarms to make sure they come to work on time. But on the way to work a tree falls on the road, so the person comes late anyway. Even though the person had absolutely no influence on the situation, the boss will still say "of course you came late, you have ADHD, this is your fault, you should have tried harder"
Does that make more sense?
Neurological disorder or mental health issues? I guess they’re similar, but different.
He didn’t crash the plane,he saved it (I’m guessing this is loosely based on the miracle on the Hudson ,where the pilot saved everyone on board plus hundreds on the ground,he just wasn’t bipolar which is why I say loosely) can anyone tell me if I’m right here??
I was thinking the same thing
Thinking the same thing but unlike what we see here, 1549 actually survived pretty much intact when it hit the water.
Crash landing is the correct term.
It may not be from pilot error, but a plane is not supposed to land in the river.
Accident or deliberate, it’s always termed a crash landing.
@@dmf1301 true,very true I remember when 1549 crashed ,the pilots wife had to phone his daughters school and tell them not to have the news playing because their father was just in a crash in New York and she didn’t want them to find out from CNN,even though his “crash” was deliberate and saved countless lives
@@spectrastar2749 it was completely intact,the pilot just didn’t have time to hit a switch to seal something so water couldn’t get in so it sank…the fact that it was a water (crash)landing where everyone survived (both passengers and on the ground)was a miracle in itself but for the plane to be perfectly intact showed the skill of the pilot(s) and was the second miracle!
For those perhaps interested in some aviation related inspiration cases, this episode obviously draws heavily upon the US Airways Flight 1549 incident.
Now, regarding pilot suicide incidents, which sadly, have occurred, what is being pointed out at the end of the clip is that the pilot appeared to try and land the plane. This would stand out as being, to varying degrees, separating him from real cases of pilot suicides.
In Silk Air 185, the pilot put the plane into an intentional hard dive, causing the plane to impact the ground at an exceptional rate of speed. Primary motivation of the pilot in this incident was financial.
In another reported suicide incident, Egypt Air 990, the pilot throttled back, and dove the plane sharply. The plane did recover due at least in part to the intervention of the first officer, but without power the plane stalled and entered a second dive, during which the aircraft began to break up in flight. Believed reasoning was due to career issue for one of the pilots.
You forgot to mention GermanWings in 2015 as well. The motivation in that case isn’t entirely known, but what is known is that the co-pilot had pretty severe depression/mental health issues. He had apparently done a dry run on another flight to make sure that changing the heading would work how he wanted it to (taking the plane down to 100 meters in mountainous areas) but he changed it quickly and it wasn’t noticed. Point being, it wasn’t spur of the moment. He planned it and refused any intervention from the pilot banging on the door or ATC radio calls once he started it
It's funny even though mid shock hes still giving orders. Thinking oh crap, uh, get everything ready and everyone is on the same page
God Bless You Captain Sully God was with you all
Haha good to see longtime TV actor Raphael Sbarge! He's played soo many crazies and bad guys on shows!😅
For everyone thinking this is fake or based on the Miracle on the Hudson, it’s not. It’s probably instead based on SilkAir Flight 185 or Egypt Air 990, which both succeeded at killing everyone on board (though the pilots had different motivations). Or perhaps even Germanwings 9525, which was actually the flight that started people discussing pilot mental health at all. In the third case, there were dozens of doctors trying to warn the airline that the pilot was unstable for years before the accident. And everyone still died on all three flights despite the best efforts of all the other crew members.
It’s tragic, but just like we need mental health evaluations of doctors and students and scientists, we needed them for pilots.
Edit: to clarify, the miracle on the Hudson was entirely an external problem-a massive birdstrike that stopped the engines. Nothing else went wrong from the CRM to ATC to flight attendants helping in evacuation. But in Egypt air, a single man decided to take revenge on the airline by crashing into the sea (still controversial to this day). In SilkAir, a man decided to escape millions in debt by destroying himself and the plane, and maybe take a little revenge. In Germanwings, a man decided to kill himself after years of untreated depression and psychosomatic blindness (which would strip him of his career) by crashing into the mountains. It’s very, very different in taste.
And this case, I would compare to loss of awareness in flight, which every contemporary CRM-trained crew knows how to watch for. It should never get to this point.
Nice comments.
I learned alot
In the full episode it proves he was trying to save the plane not intentionally crash it. The co pilot thought he had gone rouge and tried to stop him and caused it to crash in the chaos. This really is more like like the miracle on Hudson rather than an insane person trying to kill everyone.
Interesting to hear about those crashes though. I'm less interested in hearing about people who hate someone or have a debt they're trying to get out of by killing hundreds of people and more interested in the stories of people who are looked down on because of a perceived idea that they're lesser or less able to manage what everyone else does in their day to day lives just because of a mental or physical disease though. Much more entertaining and relatable.
I dont like the theory that this is more likely based on something horrific and tragic just because you couldn't be bothered to actually pay attention to the last part of the clip here where he is literally talking about how he clearly tried to rescue the plane.
@@sire_pixels9765 didn’t read the whole thing, did ya? Because I actually clarify that this is most like a number of loss of awareness accidents
I did see it. It was not a loss of awareness. He was fully and completely aware of what he was doing as he was doing it. It was after that he forgot due to trauma and/or injury.
And no one ever questioned his sanity in the episode before this incident when he told them he was bipolar. Up till then he was a normal pilot. He didn't tell people he was bipolar due to the stigmatism he was sure he would face the moment he did. He should have come forward and informed them once he knew (he was a pilot before he found out he was bipolar) but its a reasonable fear to have.
If you're trying to commit suicide by crashing a plane, logically the ground is the worst possible target to choose. Suicide is a scary process that most people want to be over as quickly as possible, but if you have to put your plane in a nosedive, you have to watch the ground coming every second of the way down. And the plane will fight you for every inch because it's designed to fly at almost any other angle. Far easier and far more guaranteed then to aim at a building. A water landing, especially a river, virtually guarantees that you'll survive and someone will quickly come to your aid.
No, it’s probably based on SilkAir Flight 185 or Egypt Air 990, which both succeeded at killing everyone on board (though the pilots had different motivations). Or perhaps even Germanwings 9525, which was actually the flight that started people discussing pilot mental health at all.
A pilot can turn a commercial jet into an expensive high speed suicide elevator. It’s pretty quick compared to modes like asphyxiation.
A “water landing”, which is called ditching, is NOT a guarantee that you’ll survive lmao
@@nicholasjaworski9368 Certainly not, but it is generally considered to be more likely than faceplanting into solid ground 😄
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Hang on... that's a Boeing 737. It requires two pilots to be flown -- especially under the flight regulations for airlines. Why didn't the first officer (most people use the misnomer "co-pilot") intervene? The captain isn't always the one controlling the plane. There should have been input from the first officer.
Because the pilot actually saved the plane, he wasn’t trying to harm himself or others. It was a mechanical issue, it’s all explained in the full episode.
Oh I wish we could see what happens next.
yeah...situations like this are the reason i don't tell people i have bipolar
Well, you just told the entire Internet.
it's the internet though, no one i know will see this on a random ahh video@@Sniperboy5551
I do not like that investigator at all. Even with a warrant to interrogate the pilot, he better remember the pilot has the 5th Amendment right to not speak at all and has the right to have a lawyer. Meaning that he can remain tight lip until his lawyer arrives.
Wait, is that Jiminy Cricket
Thank you! I was trying to figure out what I seen him in before
Ohhh yeah!!! I didn’t even notice! Ha! Jiminy Cricket 🦗 👨✈️
So what about the other pilot?
the whole way they walked out of the hospital to look at the plane you wouldnt be that calm and sneaking in real life covid bs eh
This isn’t so dissimilar to what happens in real life. The NTSB scrutinizes everyone after a crash, especially if it’s a commercial flight.
This episode was based on the real life GermanWings incident
I think they switched cameras or something!?
If I was that woman there’s no chance I’d have gone to prep the ED without seeing that crash. Morbid curiosity killed the cat
Watch the movie Miracle On The Hudson it’s good
Get rid of the DOJ
Germanwings Flight 9525 or USAirways Flight 1549 ? which real life incident is this episode based on? Southwest Flight 1380 was in season 3 of 9-1-1 Lonestar so that was already covered it also cant be American Flight 11 or United 175 because that ended bad for NYC
Ooo, what ended up happening?
The therapist and the pilot end up kissing right after the video ended. And then they live happily ever after
Get rid of the FBI
I thought pilots weren’t allowed to fly if bipolar??
Wouldn’t it be good if police shouldn’t be bipolar and severe depression And PTSD??
How the heck is this relevant to the clip?
@@feildhockeyfeildhockey5676 i guess you didn’t listen to the doctor questioning him? Asking if he was any of those thing that could cause bouts of suicidal ideation or rage. Have you neverseen a Cop in a rage?? Watch the news and ask yourself? Are they?? Hmmm
@@darlenevanetten8081 You obviously seem like someone who is just going to see the bad in law enforcement, so I won't waste my breath.
they aren’t, but he said that nobody knew. i’m not sure how that process works but if that’s what he said, i guess that’s the truth.
@@feildhockeyfeildhockey5676 your wrong I don’t just see the bad in peace officers, there are so many good ones but we aren’t getting to see the good just the raging thundering bad. And yes I do think better psychological tests need to be given to anyone who is out there supposedly keeping law & order and carrying a gun.
As much as I feel for the pilot, flying while impaired puts many lives at risk. If I found this out, I'd be pissed. I'm disabled. There are a bunch of things I can't do. I would never even try if it meant endangering others. I feel bad for the guy, but then I'd feel bad if the painter lost their sight and couldn't paint, either.
This clip doesn't tell the whole story. The plane crashed due to an equipment malfunction and the pilot saved it.
yer except the episode shows it was a technical fault with the plane and the pilots skill is why the plane landed in enough of a piece for people to survive and the whole reason the pilot hid his bipolar while also making sure to take treatments is because of people like you who would judge someone based on health issues instead of their skills and safety record your comment is litrally the reason people have to hide mental health issues.
Well I was about to be triggered an say something like ‘bipolar meds don’t necessarily make you impaired’ but according to the faa website a diagnosis of bipolar means automatic disqualification from obtaining the required medical certificate. So that sucks lol.
@naturelass Mental health is a big deal when you’re a commercial pilot taking the lives of hundreds of people into your hands. I wouldn’t want a bipolar pilot having a manic episode OR a medicated one who’s on mood stabilizers. Just find me a normal person. It’s a liability if an airline employs someone with a known mental illness and something bad happens.
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Why do I feel like this series is trying hard to make Dr Iggy a Dr Charles (from Chicago MD) rip-off? LOL
fr i noticed this too