@codeless6648 switch lite is $200, so yeah. Standard switch is $300 and OLED is $350. You could save another $10 and get an OLED and Legends Arceus for the same price +$10 as this set. Not worth it
I got the box a while back and my family and friends think it’s great! especially for someone like me who is getting back into the Pokémon collecting game and had literally no cards from back in my childhood.
The fact that the energies are the only thing tournament legal means that the energies themselves are actually pretty cheap despite looking cool (probably since many people think they're illegal). I bought 8 water and 1 lightning for my chien-pao deck almost a year ago for like 6 bucks total and they're really nice.
I also believe that the trainer cards that are in the current rotation are also legal to use as long as they match the most recent version of that card.
the pokemon TCG official tournaments work on rotating cards ATM only some sword and sheild sets and all scarlet and violet decks are legal in play and since those cards are "old" you would be able to play them since none of those cards are in those sets (the box is expensive for no reason i wish it was cheaper)
@@woodway3782I mean that’s not nessarily true. A lot of the items and trainer are actually legal in rotation. The issue is that the ones that come from this box are illegal, even though they are from current rotation.
@@clickbaitcrill3394 Correct. It is explicitly stated on the card in small print. Foafy also mentioned that the cards feel different, which probably means that they’re made differently.
Wizards of the Coast tried something similar (but worse) for Magics 30th anniversary, 4 booster packs of non-tournament legal reprints of the original set, all for the bargain price of $1000. Pokemon saw them shoot themselves in the foot (with a cannon) and said "That looks fun, we should try that!"
I was going to say, this looks very familiar. However! Pokémon did learn 1 lesson. This at least is something that can be played. It’s not 4 random packs. It’s actual decks! And for under half the cost. Reminds me of the planechase and commander anthologies. Still priced too high.
The reason why these cards are not tournament legal in case no one else pointed it out, is because old Pokémon cards are hopelessly powercrept, old Trainers are unfathomably broken, and some of them have effects that are the same as cards of different name, so you'd be able to get around the "only 4 copies per deck" rule. For instance, Prof. Juniper and Prof. Sycamore both have the same effect as Professor's Research that's been released since as a way to not have to remember a massive list of cards that can't be played together; "Discard your hand and draw 7 cards". In fact, the rule is strict in that you can't play a Prof. Juniper, a Prof. Sycamore and two Prof. Research to have 4 in total, it's either one or the other. However, for Prof. Research you can have whatever mix you want-they might feature different characters in the artwork but they have the same name. The same goes for Lysandre and Boss Order's cards! Another notable card is Rocket's Admin, it does the same thing as N. N isn't legal in Standard, but he is in Expanded. Then there's Computer Search, which once again has been out of the Standard rotation for years, but is available in Expanded as an ACE SPEC card, which you may only have one in your entire deck. I believe there's a rule somewhere that says the Computer Search released in Black & White counts as an errata and won't allow you to use the old Computer Search as a stand-in for its ACE SPEC version but I'm not sure. As for the rest of the cards like Ultra Ball, Switch, etc., whose text is identical to their current Standard iterations, and as such you could use any reprint of it for cosmetic reasons, I guess they disallowed them just to not make an absolute mess of cards that are legal and others that aren't. Oh also, Double Colorless Energy is literally Double Turbo Energy but better-the latter will give you two colorless energy just the same, but will also nerf your damage by 20. I guess it falls into the category of "old Trainers are unfathomably broken" despite being an energy. Edit: I suppose the metallic marbles are supposed to be stand-ins for coin flips
If you collect the cards, then this set is absolutely not worth it. You can buy most of these cards seperately for less than the box itself, minus the gen 1 starters which those in a holo will be a bit more expensive. But, if you play yhe game recreationally, this set is honestly really fun and nice to use. The roulette wheel is a coin flipper, and the damage and status condition indicators are sturdy and mayne ceramic, but im not sure. That being said I bought mine for 150 bucks on sale, its not worth 400 dollars lol.
Hey! I hope you don't mind me asking a question: have you done something special for not getting nuked with "for kids" in your videos? I know Maxmoefoe opened toys and cards, but the system would put the videos as "for kids" and mess with the algorithm and monetization, and I just curious if you've done anything to not have your channel have the same faith
400 dollars and they couldnt even get all the cards to be in the same style. Why did they feel the need to mix and match the era of card they were reprinting
Hey so, I just wanna say that I have seen deck boxes just like that for like 6.99 at some local game stores Also yeah as someone who plays the game, stackable damage tokens are actually really cool and I think they should sell them outside of this box
as someone who actually DOES enjoy playing the TGC, I vehemently disagree with you on the reason someone would buy this box. I, personally, would buy it for the nice, premium play stuff WAY before the odd selection of reprints. (This video really suprised me, by the way. Why are there random cards from other sets throughout the eras??? that feels like it defeats the purpose. at least make them LOOK classic, dang.)
Honestly, I agree! The premium play accessories (while not for me) are very cool! I imagine they would have a ton of use for players! I could totally see why someone would buy a product that had those features. I just wish those play accessories were available on their own for the people who wanted them. Not land locked to this box that pokemon charged $400 for just because they put a Base Set Charizard in it lol
Honestly, respect for being honest about what you paid, and how it’s not worth it. A lot of people might try to validate the purchase by hyping it up, or praise it to appeal to nostalgia, or praise it because they’re blinded by loyalty to pokémon as a brand. It’s refreshing to see that you’re objectively looking at this as just a product for $400, and judging it accordingly. While making sure your viewership doesn’t spend money on a lackluster product. On top of letting them know that each part of the set could be found secondhand from online vendors for cheap as an alternative. Thank you very much. It’s very classy, keep up the good work 👍
This is a very cool product... but it's too much fricken money. I almost got it because the idea of playing it with friends seemed appealing, but then if I got it for $400, I probably wouldn't want to play with it. I could maybe do it for like $150?
some of the promos for actual legal card in the TCG of that set look kinda cool, but 400 just to get them and not be able to play them is dissapointing
It's almost canon that any TCG company will one day bring out a product that supposedly makes the most high-value and spught after cards available for the normal public, but then completely fuck it up by making it ridiculously expensive (*cough* MTG's 30th aniversary edition *cough*)
7:46 this device is called a plookey..... At least that's what I call it! It's for flipping coins in marble form..... Roll a marble in, and the plookey will decide the outcome. Like a dice tower for marbles. They come in different forms. This is a single marble design, with multiple outcomes.... Others, you put multiple marbles in at once, and the first marble to come out is the chosen one (different coloured marbles for the different options) I've always had a fascination with them 😜 Ps. You're wrong, I DO wanna see that stuff, I clearly know shit about them lol
As a new TCG collector looking to expand my collection I'm glad I never thought about buying this set, my gut told me it was a waste of time and money so I'm glad my suspicions were correct. Booster packs FTW!
I found that thing while looking for a christmas gift yesterday and I was like "Holy shit I've never seen something like this before, I wonder what the official name is" and then I see this video a day later... is the algorithm stalking me? T_T Also it was 500 euros....
I bought one for £380 ish in the UK when it was released and have since sold in on eBay for £200. Multiple stores in the UK are selling this for £200-£250. The real problem with this product is they printed it to oblivion! :(
The fact that my local gaming cafe actually has the accessories like the counters and the playmat, but is selling them separately as unpacked individual products, speaks volumes about how extortionate this set is. And as for the marble thing in the middle, I'm guessing it's meant to be like an over elaborate replacement for the coin-flip mechanic, so 2 holes for the marble are Heads and the others are Tails?
This bundle should've been separated into 3 variants, those being Cards only, Accessories only, and Bundle. Of course the prices would be lowered, but they would've sold it better.
I knew it was gonna be bad from the commercial, but I didn't know it was going to be THIS bad. Pay $400 for like 24 pokemon. I hate how they didn't stick to the wizards of the coast era cards. The only good card in the set is Mr.Mime lol
This video made me unnecessarily angry. Yes the $400 price tag is completely insane, however the collection is clearly meant to be akin to the premium monopoly and clue sets that were coming out than a Pokémon product and marketed towards players who just want to have something premium and complete to play with family and friends. The cards not being tournament legal is completely a redundant point to get mad about because MOST CARDS ARE NOT TOURNY LEGAL. The only real competitive Pokémon scene is standard which is only the most recent sets (Sword and shield - Scarlet Violet) and then extended which is black and white onward (and even that one is barely played competitively). The trainers and supporters making up the bulk of the cards is also such a stupid thing to harp on because yes duh, that's HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED. THIS PRODUCT WASN'T FOR YOU AND YOURE GETTING MAD THAT IT WASNT FOR YOU. This video just complains about silly stuff. This product is not for the collector clearly because what do they have to gain from it. Its for fans of the game and franchise to have something premium and complete to play with friends and family. That said it should have been $200 MAX.
Hey! I mean, for what it's worth, I believe I did say that the decks being mostly trainers/supporters wasn't a bad thing. It's obviously what a deck needs to be playable! My issues aren't with the cards themselves, or the concept of a premium play-set. It's really just the price and how unjustified it was. My intent was to point out how, if one was convinced by the marketing (which focused mainly on reprints of big vintage chase cards) to pay $400 for this product, it was important to note the reality of the situation. Which was that the decks were going to be made up mostly of practical, playable cards, and not the big flashy reprints. None of that is inherently bad, but it doesn't really justify the price. Same with the competitive viability. There's nothing wrong with non-tournament legal play-sets, premium or not. But if they're going to charge $400, I feel like it would have been better for the consumer to allow the cards to have more variety of use. Honestly, as a fan of vintage pokemon, pokemon history, and as someone who has a pokemon channel. This product kind of was, "for me," conceptually. But what got me stoked on the idea was how good of a product this could be for everyone! Players, collectors, beginners, experts, etc. I was excited for vintage pokemon to not be as gate-kept, but the product itself only continued to do so with that price tag.
@@foafy Hey! Like I said it made me unnecessarily angry, I agree with the price tag issue completely it should've been less or what I think you're getting at more "worth" the price. Though I believe with a product like this I don't think there was much they could change to give it more hypothetical worth (it being to play with). Which is why I believed this product just really wasn't for collectors because apart from a fancy box its all just reprints of playable cards and there would be no way to change that to justify the price. So seeing someone just dog on this product for like 30 minutes for reasons that didn't make sense to me just annoyed me. Otherwise I really love watching your content! I hope I didn't sound too harsh its hard for me to convey tone sometimes :3c
Those vintage cards are just so cool too see let alone have, Pokémon knows this and knows they are certain people who are crazy enough to buy these type of things for outrageous prices, *no offense foafy but you know ur stuff way more than most
I wish they’d just do what they did with Evolutions again and reprint an old base set with additions for the new gimicks. I’d love to see a full reprint of Neo Genesis, or of exRuby&Sapphire.
I feel like this should have been just the special limited collector's edition version of a cheaper standard edition, that was just the cards and maybe three coins and some cheaper tokens. The status and damaged tokens are also neat and could be sold on their own as an upgrade to both this and the current competitive game. (Not sure if the marble spinner thing as a coin-replacement would sell much on it's own, maybe?) Like the basic idea is good; release what is functionally a stand-alone card-game version of a TCG meant to go for the feel of a specific era in that game's history that doesn't really exist anymore, due to the nature of TCGs, except for the biggest money-spending vintage collectors. I would have loved an affordable version of something like this for early MtG and especially if they did something based on the original version of the Elder Dragon Highlander format (what became Commander) where the decks had to be based around one of the original five Elder Dragons (as you commander/general).
I'm also going to say that I'm a young collector I started off by collecting from McDonald's. I still do from time to time, they feel thinner. Those are probably McDonald's quality Pokémon cards that are reprints of x. Y evolutions, which is just insane. Especially when you're paying four hundred dollars for them
companies really forget the vital lesson from Pawn Stars: Collector Items aren't collectible because everyone collects them also for 400 bucks i would rather buy a bunch of KitchenAid stuff
Heya! Just a heads up, you can distinguish Sun and Moon from Sword and Shield by looking at their stage slot (ex. Basic, Stage 1). Sun and Moon have more rigid, sharp slots while Sword and Shield has more rounded slots.
This is definitely a product meant for people who actually play the game. If you’re getting it just for the cards, then you’re not the target audience. At $400 it’s definitely still way overpriced, but what it’s meant to be is a premium Pokemon tcg experience. And it does exactly that. As someone who actually plays the game, I would consider buying it for $200 maximum but not a penny more. A way more reasonable price I think would be around $150. Still expensive, but for a premium product not outrageously so.
I do really appreciate them reprinting all the exclusive cards in a cheaper product. The Mr. Mime and new tools especially are super cool cards even if they sadly aren't tournament legal. Would've loved to whack Burning Charcoal onto any of the more modern standard Charizard prints to give them a huge boost. Pokemon Go Charizard doing 270 for 2 energy is real nice same with whatever crazy number you could get with the Leon Charizard. The Clefairy and Clefable reprints in the Charizard decks are actually really cool. They fix the old outdated text on the Metronome attack so that it no longer ignores the cost of the attack its copying. Cost is something that was never well defined in the Pokemon TCG, which makes any of these handful of old copy effects pretty problematic for custom competitive formats like Eternal.
I've been saying Pokémon should follow what Konami is doing and release booster boxes of older sets. Not just the base set, move into the ex era with dragon frontiers, holon phantoms, unseen forces.
I don't see why they couldn't have included 2 of each of venusaur, charizard, and blastoise for $400 in the deck for consistancy sake if it's supposed to be playable.
$250 usd is still over priced. The Canadian costco has it for $250 cad and there's no tax right now. So about $170 USD. One store even has it for $200 cad but no locations are near me.
$400 doesn't seem like a lot compared to what collectors spend on some rare card or even some sealed booster packs. they include premium packaging and exclusive tcg gear. also those cards yeah you could buy them seperately but you'd need time and possibly even bidding in the future if there were no reprint at all. not to mention they give full decks that you can actually play with a friend right away
You know, for a product called "Classic" they sure as hell got a lot of modern-looking cards in the decks. Them looking modern isn't even the problem, it's that they all look different! There's no cohesion! It's like they went to the printers and said "hey yo, print these out with a new holo pattern". You're charging 400 bucks for cardboard and you can't get a designer to make at least the pokémon cards look coherent?
As someone who saw this as an expensive but decent idea for collectors I must admit I am shocked and kinda annoyed that they didn't commit to having only old first gen card types for every mon. It just feels so jarring and confusing and doesn't even make sense if these decks are not tournament legal since they include cards that could or are used in tournaments. Basically I wish they just went full gen 1 old school for all the cards. Then at least I could see a bit more value in them. How they are, they look like someone took bulk cards from several sets and reprinted older cards for starters and some iconic mons to make it somewhat nostalgic. Though I wonder what is worse, this or that Yugioh three Egyptian god set that was also $400. Since at least those have yes less cards but are really cool versions of the manga god cards while this has nothing really "exclusive" to itself.
Good idea. But the price and marketing it as a premium product is all wrong. They should release plentiful supply, seperate decks for at most $40, with a similar box with art and booklets and coins reminiscent of the classic WotC premade decks. It might be a loss leading product at a low price, but it's going to drive intrest and new customers to the TCG.
It's literally what mtg did with the 30th anniversary set Which was Beta - in gold border - in randomized boosters - for a hundred dollars for a 15 card pack
This product isn't meant for collectors who want decks and cool cards. Mainly its for people who actually play the game. This product is definitely not worth 400$, but its way cooler to someone who competitively plays the game.
Did you ignore the part where none of cards but the energies aren’t tournament legal? This is for no one except people who actively collect everything Pokémon TCG and even then the price is wacky as hell
...The fact there's no moltres in this set...Just...*Really* pisses me off for some reason. And that the EX legendaries aren't any of the trip legends, it bothers me so much
i saw that magic did something similar for way crazier amounts with packs instead of decks on their 30th anniversary, i feel like yugioh does this better by just reprinting their first few sets
if i had gotten this as a collector waiting the decks i started the game with i would be so mad to see so much of the deck being newer reprints and not the og bills, staryu ect
I assume the marble thing is to do coin flips, because two of the holes are marked the other two are not. Also if these cards are not tournament legal, they should have used a different card back
I bought this whole thing minus the decks for 20 bucks and i love playing with friends on it. the only reason i own it is because i found it so cheap and definitely wouldn't own it if I didn't
Is it worth 400? No absolutely not. But to me it feels more for the people who wanna play old-school decks sorta? Not just collector's. The fact they put REALLY good cards like vs seeker and super scoop up is really telling of that fact for me that its like that only, not really for collector's
Inside of the battle academy box they have 3 decks and everything else you need. You might not be getting these reprints but they are reprints, they do not have the same value as the originals. The other 'premium' items are not necessary in any way. TCG classic is just a slightly fancier battle academy that is 16x the price. EDIT 2: I had forgotten about trainers being changed. This makes even less sense, why would they update supporters but not allow them for competition. Also for it just being decks that seem to have a few modern cards in them makes this lose anything good about it. No extra cards and the cards included not being 'classic' is boring and bad.
I own a game store and we just finally sold our last one of these. Feel free to tell the world they’re garbage now. It’s off my books and I no longer care
I like the Japanese version a little bit more because the borders on EVERY card are holo too. I don’t get why English decided to make only some of the borders holo.
Why didn't they make all the cards the same style, i dont play but i work in a card shop and one thing most of the people that buy from us always say is they want there decks to match
Oh so THATS what this thing is, the local game store over here has had this thing on a top shelf, looming over us like a dark monolith that noone dares to touch, now i know why nobody has, this things not worth it. I think this thing could have been 2 products, the classic deck collection & the playfield ( honestly i want that more than the cards lol)
Honestly, I think they could have been making a new set with old collecion cards, like celebrations You can play them and still have a nice value of collection Honestly I'd buy the premium accesories since they look pretty for a tournament
Idk, just the 3 starters are 180 in total on the secondary market and there are many other cards worth 10+ and each of the energy it seems they sell 1-2 bucks each? Sounds like, to me, if you bought these only where a ton of ppl offer them for around 200 bucks, you could theoretically break it down to sell the singles on a platform like tcgplayer, you could make money and a decent amount doing so. That being said you need to have an actual demand for that to work, for every card other than the bigger ones everyone wanted and already got
Honestly I had a blast opening mine. I thought the quality was great. But then maybe it is the nostalgia. I honestly was brought back to when I was playing the TCG as a kid and how cool I would have looked as a 10 year old if I brought out this briefcase play board holding my base trio decks with stackable damage counters and instead of a coin, we roll a ball for heads or tails lol With that being said, I would not pay 400 bucks for nostalgia. But I would pay 155.00! Saw this on Facebook marketplace and I had to see it for myself. This collection box was sold at Costco for like 300 I think (more or less). Sad to say there are some degenerates who like to ruin it for everyone just to make a quick buck. The place that was selling this, was a Costco overstock warehouse. Costco sell their overstock items or RETURN items to these places. Going back to the degenerates, they would buy from Costco, open the collection boxes, and take the main holos, and then return the collection box, taking advantage of Costco’s return policy and again ruining it for everyone. SMH. Anyways, I go check this place out. And there were like 7-8 opened collection box’s. And under all of them. Was a sealed collection box that was lumped in with all the opened ones. The owner let me open it to check to see if it was still Complete. And it was. He didn’t care for it and sold it to me at the same price as the opened ones missing the holos So for the price of 155.00. Yeah I enjoyed unboxing this and will be saving it to teach my kids, when they learn to read, how we used to battle. My first long post, but I needed to say this somewhere! Hearing the joy in your voice unboxing and looking through the cards was the same feeling I had haha Cheers!
This was likely not designed for collectors, but for children, or teens, or parents, who want to get into the game. You get a play board and accessories, so you dont need to gather cheap stuff, or coins from a wallet, and you get premade decks ... but then I can just guess, that sales said: "make it high value" And that was the result.
In genuinely dont know who this product was made for. For people who want reprints of classics, then its to expensive, and filled with energies and trainers those peoples dont usualy want. But its not for players either, since you cant even use the nice looking trainer cards.
I genuinely do not care about the cards. I want the slick board, counters, ESPECIALLY that slick coin flip roulette. You CANNOT buy those secondhand. I couldn't care less about "the precious holo foul charizard." This is made for pepple who actually play the game. Not those who just want to gawk at cards older than them and pog because "LOOK GUYS IT'S THE ORANGE DRAGON." "You don't care about these" THE ACCESSORIES ARE THE ONLY THING I CARE ABOUT. SCREW THE CARDS.
Now watching further and seeing so many more modern era cards... definitely not worth $400. I really thought the gimmick was "Hey! Look at all these cards from the original run when you were a kid!" But it seems more like "Here's a few retro cards, and whatever else we could fill in..."
If you have the money to spend 400$ you're too smart to buy one at that price, and if you don't. You're obviously not going to get one. This feels like a literal scam product to trick people who don't know any better into getting one. That, or force PokeTubers to get one to open because content
400 dollars could buy you a new Nintendo switch and legends arceus
Much better value imo
410 could get you a Switch OLED and Legends Arceus, which makes those who mainly play in Handheld mode more happy so even more stupidly overpriced
Or a switch lite and most pokemon games on switch
If you got the lite version wouldn't it be about 150$? So you got extra 250$ to buy 1 of each pokemon switch games (not counting spin offs and dlc)
@codeless6648 switch lite is $200, so yeah. Standard switch is $300 and OLED is $350. You could save another $10 and get an OLED and Legends Arceus for the same price +$10 as this set. Not worth it
I'd rather get murdered then spend 400 dollars on those decks
A bit extreme but oooookay
I got the box a while back and my family and friends think it’s great! especially for someone like me who is getting back into the Pokémon collecting game and had literally no cards from back in my childhood.
Damn. Hope your life's better then $400 ✊😞
The fact that the energies are the only thing tournament legal means that the energies themselves are actually pretty cheap despite looking cool (probably since many people think they're illegal). I bought 8 water and 1 lightning for my chien-pao deck almost a year ago for like 6 bucks total and they're really nice.
I also believe that the trainer cards that are in the current rotation are also legal to use as long as they match the most recent version of that card.
the pokemon TCG official tournaments work on rotating cards ATM only some sword and sheild sets and all scarlet and violet decks are legal in play and since those cards are "old" you would be able to play them since none of those cards are in those sets (the box is expensive for no reason i wish it was cheaper)
@@woodway3782I mean that’s not nessarily true. A lot of the items and trainer are actually legal in rotation. The issue is that the ones that come from this box are illegal, even though they are from current rotation.
@@clickbaitcrill3394 Correct. It is explicitly stated on the card in small print. Foafy also mentioned that the cards feel different, which probably means that they’re made differently.
Wizards of the Coast tried something similar (but worse) for Magics 30th anniversary, 4 booster packs of non-tournament legal reprints of the original set, all for the bargain price of $1000. Pokemon saw them shoot themselves in the foot (with a cannon) and said "That looks fun, we should try that!"
I was going to say, this looks very familiar. However! Pokémon did learn 1 lesson. This at least is something that can be played. It’s not 4 random packs. It’s actual decks! And for under half the cost. Reminds me of the planechase and commander anthologies. Still priced too high.
The reason why these cards are not tournament legal in case no one else pointed it out, is because old Pokémon cards are hopelessly powercrept, old Trainers are unfathomably broken, and some of them have effects that are the same as cards of different name, so you'd be able to get around the "only 4 copies per deck" rule.
For instance, Prof. Juniper and Prof. Sycamore both have the same effect as Professor's Research that's been released since as a way to not have to remember a massive list of cards that can't be played together; "Discard your hand and draw 7 cards". In fact, the rule is strict in that you can't play a Prof. Juniper, a Prof. Sycamore and two Prof. Research to have 4 in total, it's either one or the other.
However, for Prof. Research you can have whatever mix you want-they might feature different characters in the artwork but they have the same name. The same goes for Lysandre and Boss Order's cards!
Another notable card is Rocket's Admin, it does the same thing as N. N isn't legal in Standard, but he is in Expanded. Then there's Computer Search, which once again has been out of the Standard rotation for years, but is available in Expanded as an ACE SPEC card, which you may only have one in your entire deck. I believe there's a rule somewhere that says the Computer Search released in Black & White counts as an errata and won't allow you to use the old Computer Search as a stand-in for its ACE SPEC version but I'm not sure.
As for the rest of the cards like Ultra Ball, Switch, etc., whose text is identical to their current Standard iterations, and as such you could use any reprint of it for cosmetic reasons, I guess they disallowed them just to not make an absolute mess of cards that are legal and others that aren't.
Oh also, Double Colorless Energy is literally Double Turbo Energy but better-the latter will give you two colorless energy just the same, but will also nerf your damage by 20. I guess it falls into the category of "old Trainers are unfathomably broken" despite being an energy.
Edit: I suppose the metallic marbles are supposed to be stand-ins for coin flips
I was genuinely so pissed to hear the announcement for this product, it just feels like nostalgia-bait for us older collectors.
If you collect the cards, then this set is absolutely not worth it. You can buy most of these cards seperately for less than the box itself, minus the gen 1 starters which those in a holo will be a bit more expensive. But, if you play yhe game recreationally, this set is honestly really fun and nice to use. The roulette wheel is a coin flipper, and the damage and status condition indicators are sturdy and mayne ceramic, but im not sure. That being said I bought mine for 150 bucks on sale, its not worth 400 dollars lol.
Must say, the new Foafy playmat works really good with the energy on this video lol
Hey! I hope you don't mind me asking a question: have you done something special for not getting nuked with "for kids" in your videos? I know Maxmoefoe opened toys and cards, but the system would put the videos as "for kids" and mess with the algorithm and monetization, and I just curious if you've done anything to not have your channel have the same faith
I’m pretty sure he checks a box before uploading the video to youtube
@FormerlySunrizeeven if you check boxes sometimes TH-cam goes “nah it’s for kids”
He talks to the viewers like they’re adults instead of yelling and making a spectacle, I’m guessing the algorithm is just right
400 dollars and they couldnt even get all the cards to be in the same style. Why did they feel the need to mix and match the era of card they were reprinting
Bill, Bill, Bill...
sounds like my mail lol
Kinda can't believe they thought anyone, LITERALLY ANYONE, would pay $400 for this.
Feels good, the scalpers finally got a little burnt.
Hey so, I just wanna say that I have seen deck boxes just like that for like 6.99 at some local game stores
Also yeah as someone who plays the game, stackable damage tokens are actually really cool and I think they should sell them outside of this box
as someone who actually DOES enjoy playing the TGC, I vehemently disagree with you on the reason someone would buy this box. I, personally, would buy it for the nice, premium play stuff WAY before the odd selection of reprints. (This video really suprised me, by the way. Why are there random cards from other sets throughout the eras??? that feels like it defeats the purpose. at least make them LOOK classic, dang.)
Honestly, I agree! The premium play accessories (while not for me) are very cool! I imagine they would have a ton of use for players! I could totally see why someone would buy a product that had those features.
I just wish those play accessories were available on their own for the people who wanted them. Not land locked to this box that pokemon charged $400 for just because they put a Base Set Charizard in it lol
Honestly, respect for being honest about what you paid, and how it’s not worth it.
A lot of people might try to validate the purchase by hyping it up, or praise it to appeal to nostalgia, or praise it because they’re blinded by loyalty to pokémon as a brand.
It’s refreshing to see that you’re objectively looking at this as just a product for $400, and judging it accordingly. While making sure your viewership doesn’t spend money on a lackluster product. On top of letting them know that each part of the set could be found secondhand from online vendors for cheap as an alternative.
Thank you very much. It’s very classy, keep up the good work 👍
This is a very cool product... but it's too much fricken money. I almost got it because the idea of playing it with friends seemed appealing, but then if I got it for $400, I probably wouldn't want to play with it. I could maybe do it for like $150?
The aspect of the cards not being tournament legal doesn’t really matter because cards nowadays are much much better than the ones in this product
some of the trainer cards are tournament legal and staples, so it’s still a bummer
@ I don’t think any cards are staples
some of the promos for actual legal card in the TCG of that set look kinda cool, but 400 just to get them and not be able to play them is dissapointing
@@LachyDachySachy Stuff like Ultra Ball and Boss' Orders are very much staples, hell, even Switch is
400 might not be worth it… but these new cards makes me wanna spend the 400 for these old cards. Nothing will ever beat the OG pokemon
When i saw this product i thought itd be like, solely classic base set cards. Seeing a mismatch of different gen prints is... odd
Personally, it pisses me off with how it was marketed, and my old doesn't like it either
This is Pokémon's equivalent of Magic the Gathering's 30th anniversary edition.
It's almost canon that any TCG company will one day bring out a product that supposedly makes the most high-value and spught after cards available for the normal public, but then completely fuck it up by making it ridiculously expensive (*cough* MTG's 30th aniversary edition *cough*)
These cards are crap quality in a crap product, definitely not buying.
Frankly, I would rather have the box & the accessories. Too bad they're too damn expensive over where I live.
7:46 this device is called a plookey..... At least that's what I call it! It's for flipping coins in marble form.....
Roll a marble in, and the plookey will decide the outcome.
Like a dice tower for marbles.
They come in different forms.
This is a single marble design, with multiple outcomes....
Others, you put multiple marbles in at once, and the first marble to come out is the chosen one (different coloured marbles for the different options)
I've always had a fascination with them 😜
Ps. You're wrong, I DO wanna see that stuff, I clearly know shit about them lol
Remember not a single one of these cards are legal even in expanded and GLC formats.
As a new TCG collector looking to expand my collection I'm glad I never thought about buying this set, my gut told me it was a waste of time and money so I'm glad my suspicions were correct. Booster packs FTW!
I found that thing while looking for a christmas gift yesterday and I was like "Holy shit I've never seen something like this before, I wonder what the official name is" and then I see this video a day later... is the algorithm stalking me? T_T Also it was 500 euros....
I bought one for £380 ish in the UK when it was released and have since sold in on eBay for £200. Multiple stores in the UK are selling this for £200-£250. The real problem with this product is they printed it to oblivion! :(
7:35 Modern day, the game just uses dice so it’s not super useful comparatively. They are neat though
The fact that my local gaming cafe actually has the accessories like the counters and the playmat, but is selling them separately as unpacked individual products, speaks volumes about how extortionate this set is.
And as for the marble thing in the middle, I'm guessing it's meant to be like an over elaborate replacement for the coin-flip mechanic, so 2 holes for the marble are Heads and the others are Tails?
This bundle should've been separated into 3 variants, those being Cards only, Accessories only, and Bundle.
Of course the prices would be lowered, but they would've sold it better.
I can see myself paying 60-80 for the playmat and sleeves
22:28 BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY
I knew it was gonna be bad from the commercial, but I didn't know it was going to be THIS bad. Pay $400 for like 24 pokemon.
I hate how they didn't stick to the wizards of the coast era cards. The only good card in the set is Mr.Mime lol
This video made me unnecessarily angry.
Yes the $400 price tag is completely insane, however the collection is clearly meant to be akin to the premium monopoly and clue sets that were coming out than a Pokémon product and marketed towards players who just want to have something premium and complete to play with family and friends.
The cards not being tournament legal is completely a redundant point to get mad about because MOST CARDS ARE NOT TOURNY LEGAL. The only real competitive Pokémon scene is standard which is only the most recent sets (Sword and shield - Scarlet Violet) and then extended which is black and white onward (and even that one is barely played competitively).
The trainers and supporters making up the bulk of the cards is also such a stupid thing to harp on because yes duh, that's HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED.
THIS PRODUCT WASN'T FOR YOU AND YOURE GETTING MAD THAT IT WASNT FOR YOU. This video just complains about silly stuff.
This product is not for the collector clearly because what do they have to gain from it. Its for fans of the game and franchise to have something premium and complete to play with friends and family.
That said it should have been $200 MAX.
Hey!
I mean, for what it's worth, I believe I did say that the decks being mostly trainers/supporters wasn't a bad thing. It's obviously what a deck needs to be playable! My issues aren't with the cards themselves, or the concept of a premium play-set. It's really just the price and how unjustified it was.
My intent was to point out how, if one was convinced by the marketing (which focused mainly on reprints of big vintage chase cards) to pay $400 for this product, it was important to note the reality of the situation. Which was that the decks were going to be made up mostly of practical, playable cards, and not the big flashy reprints. None of that is inherently bad, but it doesn't really justify the price.
Same with the competitive viability. There's nothing wrong with non-tournament legal play-sets, premium or not. But if they're going to charge $400, I feel like it would have been better for the consumer to allow the cards to have more variety of use.
Honestly, as a fan of vintage pokemon, pokemon history, and as someone who has a pokemon channel. This product kind of was, "for me," conceptually. But what got me stoked on the idea was how good of a product this could be for everyone! Players, collectors, beginners, experts, etc. I was excited for vintage pokemon to not be as gate-kept, but the product itself only continued to do so with that price tag.
@@foafy Hey! Like I said it made me unnecessarily angry, I agree with the price tag issue completely it should've been less or what I think you're getting at more "worth" the price.
Though I believe with a product like this I don't think there was much they could change to give it more hypothetical worth (it being to play with). Which is why I believed this product just really wasn't for collectors because apart from a fancy box its all just reprints of playable cards and there would be no way to change that to justify the price.
So seeing someone just dog on this product for like 30 minutes for reasons that didn't make sense to me just annoyed me.
Otherwise I really love watching your content! I hope I didn't sound too harsh its hard for me to convey tone sometimes :3c
Those vintage cards are just so cool too see let alone have, Pokémon knows this and knows they are certain people who are crazy enough to buy these type of things for outrageous prices, *no offense foafy but you know ur stuff way more than most
I wish they’d just do what they did with Evolutions again and reprint an old base set with additions for the new gimicks. I’d love to see a full reprint of Neo Genesis, or of exRuby&Sapphire.
I feel like this should have been just the special limited collector's edition version of a cheaper standard edition, that was just the cards and maybe three coins and some cheaper tokens. The status and damaged tokens are also neat and could be sold on their own as an upgrade to both this and the current competitive game. (Not sure if the marble spinner thing as a coin-replacement would sell much on it's own, maybe?) Like the basic idea is good; release what is functionally a stand-alone card-game version of a TCG meant to go for the feel of a specific era in that game's history that doesn't really exist anymore, due to the nature of TCGs, except for the biggest money-spending vintage collectors. I would have loved an affordable version of something like this for early MtG and especially if they did something based on the original version of the Elder Dragon Highlander format (what became Commander) where the decks had to be based around one of the original five Elder Dragons (as you commander/general).
I'm also going to say that I'm a young collector I started off by collecting from McDonald's. I still do from time to time, they feel thinner. Those are probably McDonald's quality Pokémon cards that are reprints of x. Y evolutions, which is just insane. Especially when you're paying four hundred dollars for them
companies really forget the vital lesson from Pawn Stars: Collector Items aren't collectible because everyone collects them
also for 400 bucks i would rather buy a bunch of KitchenAid stuff
"Nobody wants this. Nobody will buy this."
Proceeds to buy it
The worst thing is that buying the Charizard from this product on the secondary market is still going to cost you at least 80 dollars, AT LEAST.
Heya! Just a heads up, you can distinguish Sun and Moon from Sword and Shield by looking at their stage slot (ex. Basic, Stage 1). Sun and Moon have more rigid, sharp slots while Sword and Shield has more rounded slots.
This is definitely a product meant for people who actually play the game. If you’re getting it just for the cards, then you’re not the target audience. At $400 it’s definitely still way overpriced, but what it’s meant to be is a premium Pokemon tcg experience. And it does exactly that. As someone who actually plays the game, I would consider buying it for $200 maximum but not a penny more. A way more reasonable price I think would be around $150. Still expensive, but for a premium product not outrageously so.
I do really appreciate them reprinting all the exclusive cards in a cheaper product. The Mr. Mime and new tools especially are super cool cards even if they sadly aren't tournament legal. Would've loved to whack Burning Charcoal onto any of the more modern standard Charizard prints to give them a huge boost. Pokemon Go Charizard doing 270 for 2 energy is real nice same with whatever crazy number you could get with the Leon Charizard.
The Clefairy and Clefable reprints in the Charizard decks are actually really cool. They fix the old outdated text on the Metronome attack so that it no longer ignores the cost of the attack its copying. Cost is something that was never well defined in the Pokemon TCG, which makes any of these handful of old copy effects pretty problematic for custom competitive formats like Eternal.
It sure didn't stop resellers from scooping them up to try to sell it for 600-800$ on eBay.
I've been saying Pokémon should follow what Konami is doing and release booster boxes of older sets. Not just the base set, move into the ex era with dragon frontiers, holon phantoms, unseen forces.
The 151 set got me back into collecting as an adult. That was nostalgia done better.
I don't see why they couldn't have included 2 of each of venusaur, charizard, and blastoise for $400 in the deck for consistancy sake if it's supposed to be playable.
GameStop had it for $200 but from a casual newbie i personally think it should be worth $150-$175
Its $800 in Australia, which is $500 USD. Its just too much. EB Games recently sold it at half price because they cant sell it either
If anyone's looking to buy this, Sam's club has it on sale for $195. I think it was even $180 a few weeks ago
$250 usd is still over priced. The Canadian costco has it for $250 cad and there's no tax right now. So about $170 USD. One store even has it for $200 cad but no locations are near me.
$400 doesn't seem like a lot compared to what collectors spend on some rare card or even some sealed booster packs. they include premium packaging and exclusive tcg gear. also those cards yeah you could buy them seperately but you'd need time and possibly even bidding in the future if there were no reprint at all. not to mention they give full decks that you can actually play with a friend right away
i had a games store, distributors were begging us to please buy this product for as little as 100 USD
You know, for a product called "Classic" they sure as hell got a lot of modern-looking cards in the decks. Them looking modern isn't even the problem, it's that they all look different! There's no cohesion! It's like they went to the printers and said "hey yo, print these out with a new holo pattern". You're charging 400 bucks for cardboard and you can't get a designer to make at least the pokémon cards look coherent?
As someone who saw this as an expensive but decent idea for collectors I must admit I am shocked and kinda annoyed that they didn't commit to having only old first gen card types for every mon. It just feels so jarring and confusing and doesn't even make sense if these decks are not tournament legal since they include cards that could or are used in tournaments. Basically I wish they just went full gen 1 old school for all the cards. Then at least I could see a bit more value in them. How they are, they look like someone took bulk cards from several sets and reprinted older cards for starters and some iconic mons to make it somewhat nostalgic. Though I wonder what is worse, this or that Yugioh three Egyptian god set that was also $400. Since at least those have yes less cards but are really cool versions of the manga god cards while this has nothing really "exclusive" to itself.
This is a steal compared to magic 30 anniversary
Good idea. But the price and marketing it as a premium product is all wrong. They should release plentiful supply, seperate decks for at most $40, with a similar box with art and booklets and coins reminiscent of the classic WotC premade decks. It might be a loss leading product at a low price, but it's going to drive intrest and new customers to the TCG.
It's literally what mtg did with the 30th anniversary set
Which was Beta - in gold border - in randomized boosters - for a hundred dollars for a 15 card pack
This product isn't meant for collectors who want decks and cool cards. Mainly its for people who actually play the game. This product is definitely not worth 400$, but its way cooler to someone who competitively plays the game.
Did you ignore the part where none of cards but the energies aren’t tournament legal? This is for no one except people who actively collect everything Pokémon TCG and even then the price is wacky as hell
@ yea definitely wack of them to make them illegal but you can still use them with friends when your doing your own battles
...The fact there's no moltres in this set...Just...*Really* pisses me off for some reason. And that the EX legendaries aren't any of the trip legends, it bothers me so much
Between this and the magic 30, TCGs making expensive non tournament reprints is so upsetting
The marbles and middle bit are a replacement for a coin/coin flip
i saw that magic did something similar for way crazier amounts with packs instead of decks on their 30th anniversary, i feel like yugioh does this better by just reprinting their first few sets
if i had gotten this as a collector waiting the decks i started the game with i would be so mad to see so much of the deck being newer reprints and not the og bills, staryu ect
I assume the marble thing is to do coin flips, because two of the holes are marked the other two are not. Also if these cards are not tournament legal, they should have used a different card back
I bought this whole thing minus the decks for 20 bucks and i love playing with friends on it. the only reason i own it is because i found it so cheap and definitely wouldn't own it if I didn't
Is it worth 400? No absolutely not. But to me it feels more for the people who wanna play old-school decks sorta? Not just collector's. The fact they put REALLY good cards like vs seeker and super scoop up is really telling of that fact for me that its like that only, not really for collector's
Inside of the battle academy box they have 3 decks and everything else you need. You might not be getting these reprints but they are reprints, they do not have the same value as the originals. The other 'premium' items are not necessary in any way. TCG classic is just a slightly fancier battle academy that is 16x the price.
EDIT 2: I had forgotten about trainers being changed. This makes even less sense, why would they update supporters but not allow them for competition. Also for it just being decks that seem to have a few modern cards in them makes this lose anything good about it. No extra cards and the cards included not being 'classic' is boring and bad.
I did not realize you couldn't edit multiple times.
I own a game store and we just finally sold our last one of these. Feel free to tell the world they’re garbage now. It’s off my books and I no longer care
I like the Japanese version a little bit more because the borders on EVERY card are holo too. I don’t get why English decided to make only some of the borders holo.
"Double colorless energy for Lugia"
Actually, any color energy can be used for normal-type attacks. Hence why they're called "colorless" 😜
that mr. mime was a submission for the first ever pokémon tcg card game contest in japan :D
Why didn't they make all the cards the same style, i dont play but i work in a card shop and one thing most of the people that buy from us always say is they want there decks to match
Oh so THATS what this thing is, the local game store over here has had this thing on a top shelf, looming over us like a dark monolith that noone dares to touch, now i know why nobody has, this things not worth it. I think this thing could have been 2 products, the classic deck collection & the playfield ( honestly i want that more than the cards lol)
22:26 "Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill." BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY.
Honestly, I think they could have been making a new set with old collecion cards, like celebrations
You can play them and still have a nice value of collection
Honestly I'd buy the premium accesories since they look pretty for a tournament
"you have to pay $400 for cards you cant even play in a tournament" says the person who pays any amount of money to never play the cards anyway?
Idk, just the 3 starters are 180 in total on the secondary market and there are many other cards worth 10+ and each of the energy it seems they sell 1-2 bucks each? Sounds like, to me, if you bought these only where a ton of ppl offer them for around 200 bucks, you could theoretically break it down to sell the singles on a platform like tcgplayer, you could make money and a decent amount doing so. That being said you need to have an actual demand for that to work, for every card other than the bigger ones everyone wanted and already got
18:26 they used that onix for pokemon tcg pocket
I'm pretty sure the Poké Ball is also in TCGP
@Draginator it is also in the game and I never noticed until you said it
Honestly I had a blast opening mine. I thought the quality was great.
But then maybe it is the nostalgia. I honestly was brought back to when I was playing the TCG as a kid and how cool I would have looked as a 10 year old if I brought out this briefcase play board holding my base trio decks with stackable damage counters and instead of a coin, we roll a ball for heads or tails lol
With that being said, I would not pay 400 bucks for nostalgia. But I would pay 155.00! Saw this on Facebook marketplace and I had to see it for myself.
This collection box was sold at Costco for like 300 I think (more or less). Sad to say there are some degenerates who like to ruin it for everyone just to make a quick buck.
The place that was selling this, was a Costco overstock warehouse. Costco sell their overstock items or RETURN items to these places. Going back to the degenerates, they would buy from Costco, open the collection boxes, and take the main holos, and then return the collection box, taking advantage of Costco’s return policy and again ruining it for everyone. SMH.
Anyways, I go check this place out. And there were like 7-8 opened collection box’s. And under all of them. Was a sealed collection box that was lumped in with all the opened ones. The owner let me open it to check to see if it was still
Complete. And it was. He didn’t care for it and sold it to me at the same price as the opened ones missing the holos
So for the price of 155.00. Yeah I enjoyed unboxing this and will be saving it to teach my kids, when they learn to read, how we used to battle.
My first long post, but I needed to say this somewhere! Hearing the joy in your voice unboxing and looking through the cards was the same feeling I had haha
Cheers!
This was likely not designed for collectors, but for children, or teens, or parents, who want to get into the game. You get a play board and accessories, so you dont need to gather cheap stuff, or coins from a wallet, and you get premade decks ... but then I can just guess, that sales said: "make it high value" And that was the result.
So basically, it's a super expensive version of battle academy.
This is the most confusing product. I genuinely don't know who it's for.
8:18 What in the Magic 30th Anniversary?
So you're telling me this is the equivalent of Magic's 30th Anniversary
Sam's club is currently selling it for less than $200
look ma! new Foafy vid!
I ALWAYS liked this product but the box price really put me off.
In genuinely dont know who this product was made for.
For people who want reprints of classics, then its to expensive, and filled with energies and trainers those peoples dont usualy want.
But its not for players either, since you cant even use the nice looking trainer cards.
Over here in Australia it costs $800…
I genuinely do not care about the cards. I want the slick board, counters, ESPECIALLY that slick coin flip roulette.
You CANNOT buy those secondhand. I couldn't care less about "the precious holo foul charizard."
This is made for pepple who actually play the game. Not those who just want to gawk at cards older than them and pog because "LOOK GUYS IT'S THE ORANGE DRAGON."
"You don't care about these" THE ACCESSORIES ARE THE ONLY THING I CARE ABOUT. SCREW THE CARDS.
I mean, you can get it for $250 anywhere else, still way too expensive. I’d buy it for like, $120.
If the cards were usable thinfs would be so much different
I know I just watched GTLive vs the haunted ice cream truck
but still, the background music here just sounds like it's from some horror game
Took a page out of MTG's playbook with the 3pth anniversary packs lmao
The silver border on the cards is different to the scarlet and violet border
I bought mine used for half the price at my local game store. I guess it's neat.
I mean. I got 3 Shadowless Squirtles. And I got one signed by Eric Stuart. He voiced Squirtle. Soooooo yeah. I ain't getting rid of it.
I assumed that the decks were recreations of the original gen 1 decks. I was kinda thrown off seeing Suicune...
Now watching further and seeing so many more modern era cards... definitely not worth $400. I really thought the gimmick was "Hey! Look at all these cards from the original run when you were a kid!" But it seems more like "Here's a few retro cards, and whatever else we could fill in..."
You can buy them at Sam’s club for 200, that’s a better price for this set
If you have the money to spend 400$ you're too smart to buy one at that price, and if you don't. You're obviously not going to get one. This feels like a literal scam product to trick people who don't know any better into getting one. That, or force PokeTubers to get one to open because content