Luffy has the exact vibes that he needs to have. He is different enough to not be annoying to newcomers and similar enough to have the spirit and energy of Luffy.
@@locoartsuu9607idk one piece is my very first anime and I discovered it from the live action. I’m about 100 episodes in and while his screech voice took getting used to at first I actually prefer the anime version lol but live action luffy still nailed it with the vibes.
@@terry10tnjI think you giving one piece a chance says enough, remember that the general public refuse to watch anything animated because it is for kids, that notion is slowly changing tho
@@terry10tnjHoly shit... Are you telling me that from the launch of Live action One Piece (after presumably having watched 8 hour-long episodes) you took the time to then watch 100 freaking episodes of One piece?
The reason why Nami's antagonizing Luffy is because she's pushing him away. She explained it again and again that she doesn't have friends because she hurts them. She doesn't plan on going back with strawhat pirates at all, she plans to stay.
Not to mention she wanted to get Luffy and the others to leave for their own safety. She just watched Zoro nearly die to Mihawk and Luffy get his ass handed to him by Arlong. She had no reason to believe they could help her with Arlong at this point.
Also she did the same thing in the manga. After she faked stabbing Usopp she found Luffy and told him to get off the island. That all happened before Arlong backed out of the deal just like the live action. Nux seems to only remember her telling him to leave right after her money got stolen but before stabbing her tattoo.
Regarding the Navy not doing much about Arlong, I think you're forgetting that Captain Nazumi has been covering up his activities for years to prevent Navy intervention.
Perspective Nux. When we see the land Usopp refers to, the camera pulls back and the Merry (noticeably) shrinks in comparison. Meaning, from Usopp's vantage at the helm, he likely only COULD just see the land peeking over the horizon and we're just being treated to the full shot of the island.
There is a reason crow's nests exist. On a battleship, it was the difference between seeing around a dozen miles on deck, and 20+ miles. On board a ship where they don't have a person actively doing that role, yeah, it would be incredibly delayed noticing land.
55:46 "That's a little on the nose for me too" Nux, this literally happened in the manga... like sure you might not like it, it's goofy, but this bit legit happened...
And then there's moments where they completely forgotten the previous scenes. Like how they're saying why didn't Nami and Nojiko ate on the basement to hide the plates as if it wasn't shown before that Arlong arrived unannounced and there's no time to hide those details.
@@scottjameson5358 I think it's more about if you're already eating in the basement, you won't have to worry about him coming unannounced and accidentally left the 3 plates when you go to the basement.
@@shiroeikami8467 Again, that's the problem. There's no reason to eat in the basement because the arrival was unannounced. For all we know, they just ate, Nami then returned the book, they got invaded, they ran back home and try to hide Nami and Nojiko before Arlong arrives. A better nitpick would be why in the hell did Bellmere stepped forward to shoot Arlong, making him able to grabbed the gun and raised it upwards.
A lot of the problems nux seems to have with the show are likely the result of not knowing if there would be a season 2, so they felt the need to get a good chunk of world building and such done in case there wasn’t more.
That, and the fact that Nux just doesn't remember these arcs hardly at all. So many times he hates on something even though it was exactly the same in either the manga or the anime.
I don't think it's that, I think they are just implementing story ideas oda developed later in the story so the la world feels more legitimate. So in case they do get to the later parts of the story it feels more natural.
Bruh, Nux I get that you had a whole conversation with Matt about this so I figured you understood what he said about having things that weren't in the manga until later somewhat eluded to and referenced. The Fishman classism being shown early like this is insanely well done.
It works well with the theme of freedom of the whole season. The antagonists are people who also value freedom but are ready to deprive others of their freedom. That's the opposite of Luffy who wouldn't not deprive Zoro of his freedom even to save his life. That works really well
Arlong's speech is here cause Netflix had no idea & when this was announced we all thought this was going to bomb so hard. This could've been the only season so the speech is added to world build just in case this was miraculously very good which it turned out to be, so now when we do get to Fishmen island it'll make more sense. You got to see the changes made from the minds of the production team & not as a fan or it'll just cause you to nitpick.
@@chiarruzini1191 I hope they follow Oda's original shorter plan for the manga and at least give us a conclusion to the story. Not sure if Fishman Island is in that plan, but judging how that's the way through the Red Line they might adapt that.
I can't believe by this point I have to say it. Garp isn't hunting Luffy because he's some super high level threat. He's doing it to stop any other marines from getting to him first. All of this is Garp trying to look out for Luffy even if he's heavy handed it's the same energy as the manga just brought forward a chunk. Him asking Mihawk seems to be because he knows that Mihawk won't use it against him later.
Exactly. And Garp being on their tail gives a sense of urgency to parts of the plot that otherwise would be extremely laid back, especially with the darker tone this arc got.
But... why tho? That whole narrative ruins his introspective when Ace is executed. Garp cares for Luffy, but not to this nanny degree, especially in the beginning. Now the changed narrative makes his behaviour at Marineford just jarring when we arrive there. Also Maeda literally admitting how they had to persuade Oda because he wasn't happy with a lot of the changes, using Garps plotline as example, is pretty telling.
@@gehtdichnichtsan2418 It will have the same effect as before since at the end of the LA Garp accepts that this is the path that Luffy is going to go no matter what and is as ready as he'll ever be to start on said path. Also he did care you just didn't know it in the anime/manga because it hadn't been revealed.
@@gehtdichnichtsan2418 Nah, this is good. The focus with Garp is how he wants Luffy to be a marine, but in the end Garp's a D and freedom is important. The scene with Garp getting emotional with Ace and lamenting why Ace didn't become a marine like he planned is gonna hit harder.
@@Mermiam "Also he did care you just didn't know it in the anime/manga because it hadn't been revealed." Imagine making shit up, he cared after Marineford because he saw what happens if he doesn't. Thats the whole point, that is also the reason why he sacrificed himself at Hachinosu. Early OP Garp would have captured Luffy if Luffy was stupid enough to get captured. Its as if Netflix Bots are running over time to excuse every little change.
I think y’all missed the point of her telling luffy we aren’t friends. I thought it was clear that she didn’t want them to get hurt by Arlong like he did in Baratia and wanted to push them away so they’ll be safe. Which is why she said get out of here. She was just trying to protect them because she still thinks, even in the anime, luffy can’t beat arlong. You got to remember she see’s arlong as one of the strongest because she’s been with him since she was a weak little kid. I personally think that they did a good job showing that in the most subtle way possible and it’s her acting that you can tell she’s doing what people irl do pushing loved ones away because they think that’ll be better. I do hate tho that, I could be miss remembering, nami didn’t say please don’t give me hope or something along those lines at the end.
Yeah, Nami is basically in an abusive relationship with Arlong. Outwardly she has it all under control, but her decision making is constantly influenced by fear of making him angry. She's ashamed of her situation and doesn't want anybody getting close enough to see the whole picture.
It's a combination of that but also that she's seen these idiots stroll straight into fights with almost no reason, and she doesn't want them to put the town in danger by attacking arlong. Of course the town's in danger anyway, but she doesn't know that. She thinks she's about to save them. I also really love the change that Arlong seems to use Nami completing her goal of 100 million berry as the *trigger for destroying the town* and then moving onto growing his empire further, rather than it being a simple direct betrayal of "oh yeah I was never gonna let you buy it lol."
Yes the whole thing with Garp as that his isn't marine business for him, it's personal. And that's why Koby is so skittish over the whole situation is because he knows they're not acting in the interest of the marines, they're playing Garp's personal games.
@@gehtdichnichtsan2418 Nah. Garp's whole thing is being torn between his family and his duty. I think this is a great way to set this up. His isnt exactly acting against the Marines. He is still chasing a pirate, just not going all out. His giving Luffy a familial courtesy, testing him to make sure he is ready to be a pirate. Now that he is the gloves can come off now the he knows he has done everything he can do to prepare his grandson. That's how I see it at least. Also considering they couldn't be sure they were going to get a season 2 or beyond it is a good way to incorporate stuff.
Point of clarification: Jinbei was introduced as the person who unleashed Arlong in the East blue, this was mentioned by Johnny and Yosaku on their way to the island as they were describing who Arlong was.
Jinbei kicked Arlong out of Fishman Island and the Grand Line. Arlong moved to East Blue because it's like the tutorial town in a MMO, low level, and easy to bully.
@@glompingninja yep. and Luffy beat his ass a Mid diff honestly. only times he was struggling he was thrown underwater by Arlong which is just a bitch move
@@glompingninja sure, that's the retcon they introduced once oda decided to add jinbe to the crew, but jinbe was originally set up to be a brutal crime boss, similair to sir corcodile or doflamingo, who had several minions like arlong all around the globe, extorting and harrasing people (as was confirmed in the vivre card data book).
@@thechatteringclown I wouldnt say that was a retcon because all we knew about jimbei was that he was a warlord of the sea and that's it , we didn't know if he waa a good or bad guy we just assumed a bad guy because most warlords usually are , the databook are not canon anyway so they don't count only the manga and SBS do
@@gamingparadise3390 debatable. while we didn't know 100% for sure, the way yosaku and johnny talk about jinbe it's very clear he's meant to be an antagonist. and, while you may not count the data book, the accompanying rough sketches and oda's notes on them included in the entry, very clearly portray jinbe as a planned villain. oda has a very clear history of retconning or adapting certain elements of the story and make them work differently as planned in his story later on. there are a myriad of examples, none of which i can get in to here because of spoiler reasons. but, to get back to the original point; no, jinbe was very clearly retconned to be a good guy later on to fit the story better and was set up as a villain by yosaku and johnny.
@@garenthal9638 For the most part it is true. So Idk why you’re acting like it’s just an opinion. Most people assumed it would be bad bc of previous LA adaptations . I didn’t really watch them & thats subjective anyways. Only watched One Piece LA bc it looked really good. I didn’t watch the anime or read the manga though. Went in blind & I really enjoyed it.
@@ventustbb3229 I thought it was obvious it would be done right when a year ago Oda said he’d be involved, the cast made it clear they were obsessed, and they put a video out showing all the ships being built
@@garenthal9638 People still had low expectations though lol. Plus not everyone has social media. It’s hard to change peoples opinion when the previous LA’s were bad (their subjective opinions). I only watched the Death Note. Didn’t watch any others. Aside from some older stuff that was LA shows & movies made in Japan. Which I enjoyed.
Remember in both the anime/manga and this Arlong was paying the Rat Marine to keep his activity off the radar of the Navy. So he was saying that either nothing was going on or that it was other pirates doing it.
For the fishman in the baratie scene: I think Nux completely missed the point. That scene was to show that Arlong doesn't want equality; he wants to be more superior than humans, which is done prefect in the "arlong is rac1st" part.
This entire watch thru has just me watching Nux and occasionally talking to my screen, demanding to know how he can't have encyclopedia knowledge about One Piece like Tekking 😂😂
So nami not telling nojiko or the villagers or them even knowing is because shes trying to put all the weight of freeing them on her shoulders. She leaves at baratie because she doesnt want thelp with her problems and shes going to suffer to protect her friends. So when she realizes everything shes done is essentially wasted and she has no way of saving her village she finally is willing to accept help from others. I really liked namis portrayal in the live action and it makes sense thay she was hesitant to be around others and open to them.
I think especially for Coco village, Luffy's darker/more serious tone, but still optimistic about nami character works much better for the LA, because in the manga/anime his kind of completely naive optimism is so high that he actually kind of offends nami and the villagers in one of the earlier scenes, and I don't think that would have worked for the LA. As for Nami not telling Nojiko and the villagers not finding out in this version - a core scene that happens in the manga is Nami pleading "no more death", causing her to take the responsibility of Coco village on herself, because she's built up Arlong as an invincible fighter so theres no other option to her, and I think they meant to push that idea even further in the LA, but they didn't figure out a way to clearly show that "no more death" decision in the LA, so the following scenes feel like she doesn't have a real reason for not telling anypne. One of the only gripes I have with the OPLA is that they didn't have quite enough time to add a few more scenes really clearly illuminating the Straw Hats core beliefs and tenents, like Nami here, Sanji to a certain degree (they didn't really hammer in the concept of not wasting food) and Usopp especially didn't get to really show off that even though he's a coward when push comes to shove he will put his life on the line for the things he needs to.
They Did a Great Job Reenacting that Famous Scene which I saw even they love when they reacted to it - Young Nami is played by Lily Fisher (who also is Georgie in “General Hospitol”, young Ann in “Life & Beth”, Sarah in “Station 9”, & many more) while her being a toddler is played by Sophie Ellenbogen - Nojiko is played by Chioma Umeala (who also is Ayo in “Isono” & Tara in “The Woman King”) while her younger self is played by Elihle Modise - Belle-Mere is played by Genna Galloway who also is Enya (Resident Evil), Nadine (Alchemist), Jules (Our Girl), Misty (American Monster), & Reporter (Ice) - Genzo is played by Grant Ross who also is Jannie (Catch Me A Killer), Horse Trader (Black Beauty), Henry (Grant), Bailiff (Warrior), & many more - Capetian Nezumi is played by Rory Acton Burnbell who also is Colin (Black Sails), Hogg (Bluestone 42), Ferguson (Outcasts), & many more - Easter Eggs in this Episode: - While half of the crew are wearing their Arlong Park outfits Usopp is now wearing a new outfit that is based off the one he wears on Volume 11 cover - Notice the back of the playing cards that Nami are playing have different designs with the ones in the flashback having a tangerine while the other has a Arlong & Sun Pirates design while on the side of that one the queen is a mermaid, & also the Fishman Nami is playing in the credits is called Hachi not the one we know but as a reference to our favorite octopus Nami’s cards has a pair of 4s which maybe a reference to Hachi the Japanese word for 8 - The money used in this series is actually designed just like the Berries used in the series - Arlong Park is designed after a water park with one of its signs “Shark Attack” being a reference to one of Arlong’s attacks, “Shooting Galley” maybe a reference to Usopp / Chew, & Ghost Train is maybe a reference to the Sea Train but on the sign we can see a cameo of the zombie tree that Luffy tries to recruit named MocDonald - Once the Straw Hats enter Cocoyasi village you can see a bag from Dawn Island & on 1 of the buildings you can see a drawing of the panda shark - If you look in the map room above every pillar there is a shark head statue - When looking inside of the Historical Atlas of the East Blue book Nami is reading a page referencing the Oykot Kingdom which is Nami & Nojiko’s birthplace while underneath it you can see a Sea Cow & a Sea Boar, & you can also see it drawn on the map of the End credits - Bogard mentions a curry house because Garp's favorite foods are senbei & curry - If you notice at the bar you can see tiki heads which maybe based off 2 characters that being Ace & Spector (Mock Town Hotel owner) - While a few of the fishmen are inspired by ones from the anime one is seen wearing the fashion brand Criminal which comes from Fishman Island while another one was wearing a shirt from Cyberpanda a knockoff brand of Doskoi Panda - That the Ending credits when they show the map of the Conomi Island you can see a drawing of Momoo the sea cow on the right
You don't need to see the racism towards Fishman because that's not the point. The point of it is to characterize Arlong earlier. Like why does it NEED to happen later just because it happened in the manga that way. This is live action and imbueing those world building aspects earlier while not excusing Arlongs actions is great.
Agreed, and it's like even if there is a full on fishman holocaust, does it really justify any of the things Arlong is doing? He's clearly just a rotten dude and that's all you need to know.
Nux's issue with Arlong's characterization is that he's originally depicted one dimensionally evil. Like a monster of the week where the only justification for his actions is that he's evil. It's when we learn his backstory in the Fishman island arc where we are then able to empathize with him. This also forces us to reevaluate our original biases and hopefully causes us to reflect on real world biases we may hold. This sort of narrative "twist" is lost in the live action with Arlong usurping the language of the oppressed as his justification for his crimes.
@templarknight7 We don't need that narrative twist because it was something that was already heavily implied. Showing it this early just gives arlong that characterization early and he doesn't need his "villain of the week" energy just to be given depth later. That shit can go. Them bringing in themes that are going to be integral later anyway is just them setting the seeds to the bigger problem that is the world government and acting like that is a bad thing is just nonsense. Like nothing actually changes the viewers feelings towards Arlong. They still feel like he's a terrible person even with the full context.
@@Naruke0Nick The point of the "twist" is not to change how the viewer feels about Arlong. It's to make the viewers reflect on their own biases formed by first impressions. Originally, the first introduction of fishmen are as antagonists who are unjustifiably evil. Even if there are "good" fishmen, the viewer is predisposed to viewing fishmen as bad, just like the people in the one piece world view fishmen as evil. This works well because, as humans, we can see humans being good/bad but fishmen are a completely different species and so it's easy to base our entire opinion of the species based on our introduction to them. It's what humans do in the real world when using language that dehumanizes other groups of people. It's in the fishmen island arc where we viewers get full context on the history of the fishmen and are forced to sympathize with them. Even if you still view Arlong's crew as evil, you can at least understand how their history influenced them into becoming what they became. This change in the viewers' perspective hopefully forces the viewer to self-reflect on biases they hold in the real world. All of this narrative trick is lost in the live action because our first introduction to a fishman is as an employee peacefully coexisting with humans. Arlong's crew also justifies all their actions under the banner of being oppressed. In essence, the difference in approach between the manga and live action is that the manga presented an experience while the live action presented a lecture.
@@templarknight7 to be fair, the LA's lecture did a damn good job of making me hate the villain. Villain of the week villains just make me go, meh. No motivation, nothing to latch on to, just meh. Racism bit a bit overdone? Yes. Maybe it could have done justice with just to goal to get to the grand line, but so did just about every villain the arc, and god damn would that be old on number 3.
This episode made me realize buggy is functionally a teleporter. If he swallowed the tangerine they put in his mouth it would go to his body. So he could transfer items from one side of the world to another by swallowing things.
@@YEBISU38 Yes, its why his brain can hear from the ear detached miles and miles away. The only thing he can teleport without killing him however are things he's small enough and safe enough to both swallow and poop out. The cuts in his body don't really sever him in a way that you'd be able to reach in there and grab something. the surface of his cuts become a smooth void preventing damage/disease getting into him inadvertently. Although I have no idea what would happen if you for example tried to cover all his parts in grease or dirt or something before he tries to reform, maybe the obstructions would be immediately expelled because the alternative is that even a single speck of foreign matter would prevent him from reforming.
Such a pleasure watching Nux getting impressed by what he believes are new scenes from the live action that are actually pretty much identical to the scene from the anime.
Nami antagonized Luffy the same way in the manga (nux memory strikes again) She told Luffy to leave after she “stabbed” Usopp to which Luffy responded by laying down in the street. She didn’t antagonize him because she thought she was trapped, she did it to stop them from ruining her plan to buy the village.
It's honestly intriguing how frequently he's getting mad over things that were adapted from the manga (because he doesn't remember that they happened) and in some cases, being mad they didn't do things he remembers from the manga (that actually didn't happen)
I'm gonna do what every good One Piece nerd loves to do, and fact-check Nux's claims. 5:08 No, this IS roughly where their argument first starts, although for stupid reasons. Back when they first hear Nami killed Ussop, Zoro refers to her as either a "witch woman" or "small fry", depending on the translation. Sanji either gets mad at Zoro for insulting Nami, or mishears him and thinks his saying she has small tits. Again, depending on the translation. 42:40 No, Nami did meet Luffy between stealing the Merry begging for help. It was after she faked killing Ussop. It was right after Sanji and Luffy arrived, before they met anyone else. It was just as coincidentally there, seemingly just so she can claim "Yeah, I was never part of your crew."
Does it also counts that if I recall correctly the nezumi scene went pretty much the same in the manga? just that it was day time it went a bit longer and Nami didnt had the treasure uncovered yet, but nezumi is like look well this amount XXXXXXXX cant be hard to find.
You would think he would get more mad at the fact that Luffy actually stayed and listened to Namis backstory instead of walking away which to me is the more noticeable change
ahem. Luffy didn’t know about Nami’s story in manga and anime too. actually he knew even less. when Nojiko was about to tell the story he was like “nuh i don’t care i m going for a walk” the same goes to Zoro. he literally slept through the story. meanwhile Sanji got to know the whole story and went full protective mode for her for life (and i think Usop too, just after his life being saved by Nami). at that moment of time Nojiko knew everything. and there was no dilemma. the problem was that Nami was absolutely opposed to any help. and Luffy wasn’t going to do a thing until Nami asks directly. he couldn’t care less about the reasons, he just knew that Nami is a good person and needs help. our boy waited until Nami would be ready.
55:38 That line is straight from the manga & anime. Nami only started crying in the street (the scene you were waiting for) when she realized that Arlong was going to keep taking the money from her indirectly. The townsfolk went off to fight Arlong after they heard about Nami confronting Arlong about Nezumi, and they realized Nami's plan wasn't going to work. The only change was Nojiko & the entire villlage werre not smart enough to get Nami's plan, and instead of paying up in hopes Nami could win, they didn't pay and get invaded instead of being the invaders when they attacked Arlong Park. Also, they didn't even get to fight because the 2 pirate hunters that were with Zoro stopped them from entering while the gang pulled up
Nah bro including the racism theme in this arc was the right choice. Like, if you have the future material of the manga why would you not do it? I dont see what the downside is, it just makes the story more uniform. Plus, if you can't make Arlong as intimidating as in the manga, then at least give him an extra layer so that he isn't too boring
I don't know, why doesn't Oda tell us in the first Arc what the One Piece is. Man what a hard thing to figure out, why Oda setups stuff for 10 years so the payoff feels more rewarding. I mean, idk what are they doing with Fisher Tiger now? Rinse repeat the same nuances? And with Orihime as well?
mate, when oda was writing this part of the story he thought he would end it in 5 years, he had no idea how popular it would become and that he would be allowed to keep writing it 20+ years later, i'm 100% sure there are plenty of things he would change about the story with hindsight all the changes in the LA were approved by oda @@gehtdichnichtsan2418
@@gehtdichnichtsan2418let's not pretend they went into any form of detail about the terrible things that are and have been done to fishmen, they had Arlong's racism at the forefront and sowed some seed about the racism that fishmen face, if they get far enough to explore it, the reveal of just how horrific the treatment of fishmen is will still hit hard as the topic of slavery and everything around the celestial dragons hasn't been mentioned. Calm your farm and stop being a drama queen
The rant about the them chasing luffy while arlong is reaking havoc is that we know later on it was cause he was bribing that mouse marine to look the other way.
Garp is chasing Luffy. All your complaints about the marine's actions would make sense if it was smoker or someone else who's actually responsible. Also the racism theme works well with the overall theme of this season because arlong is the reverse of Luffy.
42:52 I think there is one reason for her, she knows how scary and strong arlong is so she wants the only people she considers friends to be away from him and safe.
The Nezumi thing also directly happened with him giving it away by saying how much he was there for, only in the manga it's gen that catches the wording instead of nami.
Don’t forget, in the manga, Luffy didn’t know what was happening either. That’s what was so impactful. He literally didn’t even want or care to know what was happening. All that mattered was that Nami was crying and that she asked for help. That’s all that mattered to him.
I’m pretty sure that guy isn’t actually hachi. I know they have that and “angry fishman” in the credits but I feel like they may have attempted to include hatchi with CG or prosthetics played by the same actor and then cut him due to not being able to accomplish it or it not working. Maybe. But they’re maintaining plausible deniability to be able to try and integrate the character later with a bigger budget of similar.
@@HarrisBoe totally, and apparently the producer has now said that they really wanted to include Hachi and fought and argued to do so but couldn’t for season 1 in the end due to time and money.
Season 1 made changes to explain some things that may be too sooner compared to the manga and that is because they are not sure of the future of the show will be (if they get renewed or not). From the get go, I already had a feeling the direction they go for the world building especially when they decided to reveal garp as luffys grandpa.
@@royalfun1031 What are you talking about, Oda released a video talking about season 1, and near the end of the video he said Netflix has confirmed a season 2 and he will work with them on the script
I don't know why some people have a big problem with Nami not telling the village her plan? Keeping it a secret shows how she is willing to do anything to protect her village. Not telling them her plan is a way to keep them safe. Telling them would possibly want them to help her, which would be dangerous. She had to get the money (alone). That was the promise and Anlong didn't say people could help her. So obviously, keeping it a secret from the village was a way to keep them safe. Yeah, it's different from the manga, but it is not a big deal like people make it out to be that she didn't tell them.
I think the issue is with the Nami breakdown. Nami brokedown in the anime not because the money was stolen. Nami broke down because the villagers have had enough and is willing to die fighting Arlong.
i think they chose to include the treatment of fishmen informing arlongs decisions this early on purpose to really drive home the irony of how he treats nami. in the scene with nezumi when arlong starts preaching it cuts to nami and her reaction to what he's saying to show that. even in fishmen island you're not supposed to like arlong and here it only shows how misguided his if even justifiable hatred is
i like this change better than manga/anime 1.i might be able judge an story arc in hindsight but i have no hindsight during my first viewing experience ,and first viewing experience does count 2.this made arlong more compelling character than manga,in manga he was just another evil dude, doing evil things for evil sake,he is still very despicable probably even more since he sound like a hypocrite 3.let's not do oda worship for a moment and understand that he possibly never planned fishman island at the time he was writing arlong park ,so we were always suppose to hate fishman unless oda decided otherwise
The outfit Arlong wears in the flashback is what he wore in the manga/anime flashback. He also noticed the plates, too. Nezumi also let the ammount slip in the anime, its how Nami figured out it ws Arlong going back on his deal.
To be fair, it IS a bit hard to pull off the fact that the entire village just went along with letting Nami, all alone, basically carry all of them on her shoulders, showing their love for her by letting her suffer for their sake, for literal YEARS. I'm not saying I have anything against that part in the manga, I'm saying it takes a LOT of really fine-tuned storytelling and very careful setup to make that work. It worked in the manga, but I'm not too sure it would have worked as well in the LA.
I watched this with my 43 year old mam and she loved way more than I expected halfway she was telling me there better be another season, and getting annoyed of things getting in the way of "her show" Absolutely a great show
Nux, man, youre not remembering it correctly. They did touch on arlongs motivations in this arc in the anime/manga. They made a point to have arlong talk about revenge against humans for the oppression theyve caused in this same arc. They just dug far deeper into it later.
Can you at least WAIT for things to be explained? They on;ly have enough budget to make 8 episodes, you gotta give them credit for doing the entire East Blue saga (minus Loguetown) with that.
I think they're trying to make Arlong seem more imposing and villainous since he's the big villain of the Season and they know Season 2 will be quite a while in the making.
i do think thats great that luffy got that seriousness in end,,its gonna be weird for me if luffy still smile and do the goofy staff at the end..if they did the exact like anime i dont think it will potrays well in the live action
It's tragic that there's like only one doujin that makes creative use of Robin's devil fruit ability. There's so much hentai gold right there waiting to be plundered
Nux you're literally nitpicking about things that are straight up not changes from the original story. Like I get it, there's changes that are iffy but you're just simply not remembering the og show
Luffy doesn't need to know her backstory, I'm pretty sure in the OG material he avoids listening to other people talk about backstories unless they themselves want to tell Luffy. One example of that is when Nojiko is explaining Nami's backstory Luffy walks away 😱
The point in anime was Luffy didn’t care he knew Nami was also his friend and willing do anything for her. But would been extra scene and moving his character around. Which make more longer.
Jimbei: "And that, is why the fishmen have been oppressed and why you can't fight Hody... ARE YOU ASLEEP?!" Luffy: "Huh? Wha? Sorry I dozed off, who am I punching out again?"
I do think the Zoro/Sanji rivalry was rushed here, but I understand wanting to get that dynamic into the first season. In the manga, my impression was that it started with disagreements over how to treat Nami in Arlong Park, but didn't really develop into the iconic rivalry until Sanji saw Zoro fighting Tashigi in Loguetown. They just have two totally opposite concepts of respecting women.
Crazy how much stuff you've gotten wrong about the East Blue saga, It's like you haven't watched it in a decade and like you've literally never read the manga. No wonder you always got so much stuff wrong during the one piece virgin podcast, you were going off memory and not actually re reading it.
I kept getting your videos recommended to me and I never knew why. When I saw you do reactions to the OP live action, I wanted to see what you thought. I binged it ALL. I genuinely loved you guys. You made me laugh and you gave me different perspective on things and I loved you comparing it to the original work and explaining why you thought things did or don’t work here. Now I know why you were recommended to me, y’all are awesome!
Main reason Arlong wanted the sea charts made, was for the ocean currents, that kind of knowledge would be priceless to anything that can swim in the currents
They had Hachi fully planned out but they ran out of budget and they felt it was used better elsewhere, hopefully with season 2 not being effected by Covid they can use the budget more efficiently. Also, its no so bad because Hachi could show up anytime in later seasons, its already in his character to be reformed and denounce Arlong even if its framed as him doing it off screen before the events of the show. All they have to do is have him meet Nami sometime later while he's running his takoyaki shop which then sets him up for Saboady, god willing we get there.
Watching this with you guys has been my third time since the first was english dub then sub and this reaction been actually awesome plus the crew carrying around Buggy's head 👏 genius stuff also Nami nailed the emotional beats so well and fishing is great I won't stand for this slander.
I believe Nami was trying to push Luffy and the crew away early on to protect him. The same way she did when she told Arlong to throw him into the sea to kill him at Baratie. She believes the only way to keep Arlong from hurting anyone she cares about is handling the entire thing herself.
The actress playing NAMI is actually a major fan of anime. Every scene she gives 1,000% and it shows. Weebs definitely make better cast members for shows.
The amount of time they pause and talk shit on the most important and intense scenes then get confused cause they didn't understand what happened or what was said makes me want to pull out all my nose hair 🥹😫
I've been having a blast watching so many people react to this show; but, honestly, I've come to prefer the reactions of folks who came to this show blind over those by series veterans. On the one hand, it's neat seeing the excitement of pre-existing fans, who get to experience the thing they love be so lovingly adapted; on the other hand, having to hear "bUt THe aNImEeeee dID iT dIFfeReNtlY!!!" EVERY 30 seconds gets old pretty dang quick. I don't remember the 'Ice & Fire' readers being this bad when Game of Thrones came out.
Luffy has the exact vibes that he needs to have. He is different enough to not be annoying to newcomers and similar enough to have the spirit and energy of Luffy.
True but Idiot Luffy is my Fav lol
@@Nastyn1nja808 as one piece vets, yeah he works. but average netflix enjoyers wont like unhinged idiot luffy :(
@@locoartsuu9607idk one piece is my very first anime and I discovered it from the live action. I’m about 100 episodes in and while his screech voice took getting used to at first I actually prefer the anime version lol but live action luffy still nailed it with the vibes.
@@terry10tnjI think you giving one piece a chance says enough, remember that the general public refuse to watch anything animated because it is for kids, that notion is slowly changing tho
@@terry10tnjHoly shit...
Are you telling me that from the launch of Live action One Piece (after presumably having watched 8 hour-long episodes) you took the time to then watch 100 freaking episodes of One piece?
The reason why Nami's antagonizing Luffy is because she's pushing him away. She explained it again and again that she doesn't have friends because she hurts them. She doesn't plan on going back with strawhat pirates at all, she plans to stay.
Not to mention she wanted to get Luffy and the others to leave for their own safety. She just watched Zoro nearly die to Mihawk and Luffy get his ass handed to him by Arlong. She had no reason to believe they could help her with Arlong at this point.
Nux is a airhead. He won't get that
Also she did the same thing in the manga. After she faked stabbing Usopp she found Luffy and told him to get off the island. That all happened before Arlong backed out of the deal just like the live action.
Nux seems to only remember her telling him to leave right after her money got stolen but before stabbing her tattoo.
Regarding the Navy not doing much about Arlong, I think you're forgetting that Captain Nazumi has been covering up his activities for years to prevent Navy intervention.
Perspective Nux. When we see the land Usopp refers to, the camera pulls back and the Merry (noticeably) shrinks in comparison. Meaning, from Usopp's vantage at the helm, he likely only COULD just see the land peeking over the horizon and we're just being treated to the full shot of the island.
There is a reason crow's nests exist. On a battleship, it was the difference between seeing around a dozen miles on deck, and 20+ miles. On board a ship where they don't have a person actively doing that role, yeah, it would be incredibly delayed noticing land.
55:46
"That's a little on the nose for me too"
Nux, this literally happened in the manga... like sure you might not like it, it's goofy, but this bit legit happened...
Omg... thank you!!!! I was thinking the same thing!!
Nux: I did my research beforehand this time so people can’t call me out for being wrong.
Also Nux: still says things that are wrong
Nux: I did my research
Narrator: He did not, in fact, do his research
Honestly I find it funny
To be fair, the outfit Arlong is wearing in the flashback is pretty much canon to the outfit he was wearing when he first came to the village.
Pimp-Long has that drip
I had little to no no hope for the live action, but they way surpassed them and i love it
After death note, i think we all had horrific feelings about this coming out and id say most of us had a great time watching this
The amount of time were Nux & Co complain about something and then later find out they were wrong is TO DAMN HIGH!
That's because they pause to react to every three lines of spoken dialogue for some reason.
@@fredwinfor transformative content reasons
And then there's moments where they completely forgotten the previous scenes. Like how they're saying why didn't Nami and Nojiko ate on the basement to hide the plates as if it wasn't shown before that Arlong arrived unannounced and there's no time to hide those details.
@@scottjameson5358 I think it's more about if you're already eating in the basement, you won't have to worry about him coming unannounced and accidentally left the 3 plates when you go to the basement.
@@shiroeikami8467 Again, that's the problem. There's no reason to eat in the basement because the arrival was unannounced. For all we know, they just ate, Nami then returned the book, they got invaded, they ran back home and try to hide Nami and Nojiko before Arlong arrives. A better nitpick would be why in the hell did Bellmere stepped forward to shoot Arlong, making him able to grabbed the gun and raised it upwards.
A lot of the problems nux seems to have with the show are likely the result of not knowing if there would be a season 2, so they felt the need to get a good chunk of world building and such done in case there wasn’t more.
That, and the fact that Nux just doesn't remember these arcs hardly at all. So many times he hates on something even though it was exactly the same in either the manga or the anime.
I don't think it's that, I think they are just implementing story ideas oda developed later in the story so the la world feels more legitimate. So in case they do get to the later parts of the story it feels more natural.
Bruh, Nux I get that you had a whole conversation with Matt about this so I figured you understood what he said about having things that weren't in the manga until later somewhat eluded to and referenced. The Fishman classism being shown early like this is insanely well done.
It works well with the theme of freedom of the whole season. The antagonists are people who also value freedom but are ready to deprive others of their freedom. That's the opposite of Luffy who wouldn't not deprive Zoro of his freedom even to save his life. That works really well
Thought it was racism?
Considering Arlong said multiple time he think his race are more superior than humans?
Arlong's speech is here cause Netflix had no idea & when this was announced we all thought this was going to bomb so hard. This could've been the only season so the speech is added to world build just in case this was miraculously very good which it turned out to be, so now when we do get to Fishmen island it'll make more sense. You got to see the changes made from the minds of the production team & not as a fan or it'll just cause you to nitpick.
Yeah, I am sure they would love to have split this into 2 episodes, but the budget just wasn’t there
@@goldenhate6649 Yeah, im pretty sure they said they wanted 10 episodes and only got 8 so they had to condense a bit
@@Eviltwin1yep, Oda said it was going to be a 10-episode series when it was greenlit by Netflix
Honestly even with the success it had I don't think they'll be getting as far as Fishmen Island
@@chiarruzini1191 I hope they follow Oda's original shorter plan for the manga and at least give us a conclusion to the story. Not sure if Fishman Island is in that plan, but judging how that's the way through the Red Line they might adapt that.
I can't believe by this point I have to say it. Garp isn't hunting Luffy because he's some super high level threat. He's doing it to stop any other marines from getting to him first. All of this is Garp trying to look out for Luffy even if he's heavy handed it's the same energy as the manga just brought forward a chunk. Him asking Mihawk seems to be because he knows that Mihawk won't use it against him later.
Exactly. And Garp being on their tail gives a sense of urgency to parts of the plot that otherwise would be extremely laid back, especially with the darker tone this arc got.
But... why tho? That whole narrative ruins his introspective when Ace is executed. Garp cares for Luffy, but not to this nanny degree, especially in the beginning.
Now the changed narrative makes his behaviour at Marineford just jarring when we arrive there. Also Maeda literally admitting how they had to persuade Oda because he wasn't happy with a lot of the changes, using Garps plotline as example, is pretty telling.
@@gehtdichnichtsan2418 It will have the same effect as before since at the end of the LA Garp accepts that this is the path that Luffy is going to go no matter what and is as ready as he'll ever be to start on said path. Also he did care you just didn't know it in the anime/manga because it hadn't been revealed.
@@gehtdichnichtsan2418 Nah, this is good. The focus with Garp is how he wants Luffy to be a marine, but in the end Garp's a D and freedom is important. The scene with Garp getting emotional with Ace and lamenting why Ace didn't become a marine like he planned is gonna hit harder.
@@Mermiam "Also he did care you just didn't know it in the anime/manga because it hadn't been revealed." Imagine making shit up, he cared after Marineford because he saw what happens if he doesn't. Thats the whole point, that is also the reason why he sacrificed himself at Hachinosu. Early OP Garp would have captured Luffy if Luffy was stupid enough to get captured. Its as if Netflix Bots are running over time to excuse every little change.
I think y’all missed the point of her telling luffy we aren’t friends. I thought it was clear that she didn’t want them to get hurt by Arlong like he did in Baratia and wanted to push them away so they’ll be safe. Which is why she said get out of here. She was just trying to protect them because she still thinks, even in the anime, luffy can’t beat arlong. You got to remember she see’s arlong as one of the strongest because she’s been with him since she was a weak little kid. I personally think that they did a good job showing that in the most subtle way possible and it’s her acting that you can tell she’s doing what people irl do pushing loved ones away because they think that’ll be better. I do hate tho that, I could be miss remembering, nami didn’t say please don’t give me hope or something along those lines at the end.
Yeah, Nami is basically in an abusive relationship with Arlong. Outwardly she has it all under control, but her decision making is constantly influenced by fear of making him angry. She's ashamed of her situation and doesn't want anybody getting close enough to see the whole picture.
It's a combination of that but also that she's seen these idiots stroll straight into fights with almost no reason, and she doesn't want them to put the town in danger by attacking arlong. Of course the town's in danger anyway, but she doesn't know that. She thinks she's about to save them.
I also really love the change that Arlong seems to use Nami completing her goal of 100 million berry as the *trigger for destroying the town* and then moving onto growing his empire further, rather than it being a simple direct betrayal of "oh yeah I was never gonna let you buy it lol."
Yes the whole thing with Garp as that his isn't marine business for him, it's personal. And that's why Koby is so skittish over the whole situation is because he knows they're not acting in the interest of the marines, they're playing Garp's personal games.
Plus there's also the Grand Line map they stole. Luffy may be small time, but he's still got something the Marines need back
Which makes his introspective at Marineford completely redundant now, cause he acts out of competely different reasons.
@@gehtdichnichtsan2418I think you're being a bit dramatic
Lmao it’s an ADAPTATION
@@gehtdichnichtsan2418 Nah. Garp's whole thing is being torn between his family and his duty. I think this is a great way to set this up.
His isnt exactly acting against the Marines. He is still chasing a pirate, just not going all out. His giving Luffy a familial courtesy, testing him to make sure he is ready to be a pirate. Now that he is the gloves can come off now the he knows he has done everything he can do to prepare his grandson.
That's how I see it at least.
Also considering they couldn't be sure they were going to get a season 2 or beyond it is a good way to incorporate stuff.
Point of clarification: Jinbei was introduced as the person who unleashed Arlong in the East blue, this was mentioned by Johnny and Yosaku on their way to the island as they were describing who Arlong was.
Jinbei kicked Arlong out of Fishman Island and the Grand Line. Arlong moved to East Blue because it's like the tutorial town in a MMO, low level, and easy to bully.
@@glompingninja yep. and Luffy beat his ass
a Mid diff honestly.
only times he was struggling he was thrown underwater by Arlong which is just a bitch move
@@glompingninja sure, that's the retcon they introduced once oda decided to add jinbe to the crew, but jinbe was originally set up to be a brutal crime boss, similair to sir corcodile or doflamingo, who had several minions like arlong all around the globe, extorting and harrasing people (as was confirmed in the vivre card data book).
@@thechatteringclown I wouldnt say that was a retcon because all we knew about jimbei was that he was a warlord of the sea and that's it , we didn't know if he waa a good or bad guy we just assumed a bad guy because most warlords usually are , the databook are not canon anyway so they don't count only the manga and SBS do
@@gamingparadise3390 debatable. while we didn't know 100% for sure, the way yosaku and johnny talk about jinbe it's very clear he's meant to be an antagonist. and, while you may not count the data book, the accompanying rough sketches and oda's notes on them included in the entry, very clearly portray jinbe as a planned villain.
oda has a very clear history of retconning or adapting certain elements of the story and make them work differently as planned in his story later on. there are a myriad of examples, none of which i can get in to here because of spoiler reasons.
but, to get back to the original point; no, jinbe was very clearly retconned to be a good guy later on to fit the story better and was set up as a villain by yosaku and johnny.
Nux the fishman playing poker with Nami had a 10 high strait. That is actually a decent hand.
Nux judging usopps commentary when he's pausing every .5 seconds to do the same 😂
Anyone who followed the project from the beginning could have told ya this was going to be THEE ONE
Idk a everybody was hating b4 the trailers came out. All I had to hear was oda was involved, from that moment on I had complete trust
@@r.i.c.otherapper5730 speak for yourself.
@@garenthal9638 For the most part it is true. So Idk why you’re acting like it’s just an opinion. Most people assumed it would be bad bc of previous LA adaptations . I didn’t really watch them & thats subjective anyways. Only watched One Piece LA bc it looked really good. I didn’t watch the anime or read the manga though. Went in blind & I really enjoyed it.
@@ventustbb3229 I thought it was obvious it would be done right when a year ago Oda said he’d be involved, the cast made it clear they were obsessed, and they put a video out showing all the ships being built
@@garenthal9638 People still had low expectations though lol. Plus not everyone has social media. It’s hard to change peoples opinion when the previous LA’s were bad (their subjective opinions). I only watched the Death Note. Didn’t watch any others. Aside from some older stuff that was LA shows & movies made in Japan. Which I enjoyed.
Remember in both the anime/manga and this Arlong was paying the Rat Marine to keep his activity off the radar of the Navy. So he was saying that either nothing was going on or that it was other pirates doing it.
For the fishman in the baratie scene:
I think Nux completely missed the point.
That scene was to show that Arlong doesn't want equality; he wants to be more superior than humans, which is done prefect in the "arlong is rac1st" part.
This entire watch thru has just me watching Nux and occasionally talking to my screen, demanding to know how he can't have encyclopedia knowledge about One Piece like Tekking 😂😂
Bro. Tekking can tell you what Luffy had for breakfast in chapter 673 or something like that. lmao
@@miguelgonzalez6495 bro is built different for real for real
@@miguelgonzalez6495that was punk hazard so i would say roasted dragon meat.
So nami not telling nojiko or the villagers or them even knowing is because shes trying to put all the weight of freeing them on her shoulders. She leaves at baratie because she doesnt want thelp with her problems and shes going to suffer to protect her friends. So when she realizes everything shes done is essentially wasted and she has no way of saving her village she finally is willing to accept help from others. I really liked namis portrayal in the live action and it makes sense thay she was hesitant to be around others and open to them.
I think especially for Coco village, Luffy's darker/more serious tone, but still optimistic about nami character works much better for the LA, because in the manga/anime his kind of completely naive optimism is so high that he actually kind of offends nami and the villagers in one of the earlier scenes, and I don't think that would have worked for the LA.
As for Nami not telling Nojiko and the villagers not finding out in this version - a core scene that happens in the manga is Nami pleading "no more death", causing her to take the responsibility of Coco village on herself, because she's built up Arlong as an invincible fighter so theres no other option to her, and I think they meant to push that idea even further in the LA, but they didn't figure out a way to clearly show that "no more death" decision in the LA, so the following scenes feel like she doesn't have a real reason for not telling anypne.
One of the only gripes I have with the OPLA is that they didn't have quite enough time to add a few more scenes really clearly illuminating the Straw Hats core beliefs and tenents, like Nami here, Sanji to a certain degree (they didn't really hammer in the concept of not wasting food) and Usopp especially didn't get to really show off that even though he's a coward when push comes to shove he will put his life on the line for the things he needs to.
They Did a Great Job Reenacting that Famous Scene which I saw even they love when they reacted to it
- Young Nami is played by Lily Fisher (who also is Georgie in “General Hospitol”, young Ann in “Life & Beth”, Sarah in “Station 9”, & many more) while her being a toddler is played by Sophie Ellenbogen
- Nojiko is played by Chioma Umeala (who also is Ayo in “Isono” & Tara in “The Woman King”) while her younger self is played by Elihle Modise
- Belle-Mere is played by Genna Galloway who also is Enya (Resident Evil), Nadine (Alchemist), Jules (Our Girl), Misty (American Monster), & Reporter (Ice)
- Genzo is played by Grant Ross who also is Jannie (Catch Me A Killer), Horse Trader (Black Beauty), Henry (Grant), Bailiff (Warrior), & many more
- Capetian Nezumi is played by Rory Acton Burnbell who also is Colin (Black Sails), Hogg (Bluestone 42), Ferguson (Outcasts), & many more
- Easter Eggs in this Episode:
- While half of the crew are wearing their Arlong Park outfits Usopp is now wearing a new outfit that is based off the one he wears on Volume 11 cover
- Notice the back of the playing cards that Nami are playing have different designs with the ones in the flashback having a tangerine while the other has a Arlong & Sun Pirates design while on the side of that one the queen is a mermaid, & also the Fishman Nami is playing in the credits is called Hachi not the one we know but as a reference to our favorite octopus Nami’s cards has a pair of 4s which maybe a reference to Hachi the Japanese word for 8
- The money used in this series is actually designed just like the Berries used in the series
- Arlong Park is designed after a water park with one of its signs “Shark Attack” being a reference to one of Arlong’s attacks, “Shooting Galley” maybe a reference to Usopp / Chew, & Ghost Train is maybe a reference to the Sea Train but on the sign we can see a cameo of the zombie tree that Luffy tries to recruit named MocDonald
- Once the Straw Hats enter Cocoyasi village you can see a bag from Dawn Island & on 1 of the buildings you can see a drawing of the panda shark
- If you look in the map room above every pillar there is a shark head statue
- When looking inside of the Historical Atlas of the East Blue book Nami is reading a page referencing the Oykot Kingdom which is Nami & Nojiko’s birthplace while underneath it you can see a Sea Cow & a Sea Boar, & you can also see it drawn on the map of the End credits
- Bogard mentions a curry house because Garp's favorite foods are senbei & curry
- If you notice at the bar you can see tiki heads which maybe based off 2 characters that being Ace & Spector (Mock Town Hotel owner)
- While a few of the fishmen are inspired by ones from the anime one is seen wearing the fashion brand Criminal which comes from Fishman Island while another one was wearing a shirt from Cyberpanda a knockoff brand of Doskoi Panda
- That the Ending credits when they show the map of the Conomi Island you can see a drawing of Momoo the sea cow on the right
Dude! Nice info dump! Thanks!
😊😮😮😊🎉 thanks
I love how reactors never just let things play out and cook before jumping to conclusions about characters' motivations and personalities.
Usopp is the storyteller of the crew. Pirates need to tell stories of their adventures, and that's Usopp's job.
😅 sniper with classes in speech 😅😂
You don't need to see the racism towards Fishman because that's not the point. The point of it is to characterize Arlong earlier. Like why does it NEED to happen later just because it happened in the manga that way. This is live action and imbueing those world building aspects earlier while not excusing Arlongs actions is great.
Agreed, and it's like even if there is a full on fishman holocaust, does it really justify any of the things Arlong is doing? He's clearly just a rotten dude and that's all you need to know.
Nux's issue with Arlong's characterization is that he's originally depicted one dimensionally evil. Like a monster of the week where the only justification for his actions is that he's evil. It's when we learn his backstory in the Fishman island arc where we are then able to empathize with him. This also forces us to reevaluate our original biases and hopefully causes us to reflect on real world biases we may hold. This sort of narrative "twist" is lost in the live action with Arlong usurping the language of the oppressed as his justification for his crimes.
@templarknight7 We don't need that narrative twist because it was something that was already heavily implied. Showing it this early just gives arlong that characterization early and he doesn't need his "villain of the week" energy just to be given depth later. That shit can go. Them bringing in themes that are going to be integral later anyway is just them setting the seeds to the bigger problem that is the world government and acting like that is a bad thing is just nonsense. Like nothing actually changes the viewers feelings towards Arlong. They still feel like he's a terrible person even with the full context.
@@Naruke0Nick The point of the "twist" is not to change how the viewer feels about Arlong. It's to make the viewers reflect on their own biases formed by first impressions.
Originally, the first introduction of fishmen are as antagonists who are unjustifiably evil. Even if there are "good" fishmen, the viewer is predisposed to viewing fishmen as bad, just like the people in the one piece world view fishmen as evil. This works well because, as humans, we can see humans being good/bad but fishmen are a completely different species and so it's easy to base our entire opinion of the species based on our introduction to them. It's what humans do in the real world when using language that dehumanizes other groups of people.
It's in the fishmen island arc where we viewers get full context on the history of the fishmen and are forced to sympathize with them. Even if you still view Arlong's crew as evil, you can at least understand how their history influenced them into becoming what they became. This change in the viewers' perspective hopefully forces the viewer to self-reflect on biases they hold in the real world.
All of this narrative trick is lost in the live action because our first introduction to a fishman is as an employee peacefully coexisting with humans. Arlong's crew also justifies all their actions under the banner of being oppressed.
In essence, the difference in approach between the manga and live action is that the manga presented an experience while the live action presented a lecture.
@@templarknight7 to be fair, the LA's lecture did a damn good job of making me hate the villain. Villain of the week villains just make me go, meh. No motivation, nothing to latch on to, just meh. Racism bit a bit overdone? Yes. Maybe it could have done justice with just to goal to get to the grand line, but so did just about every villain the arc, and god damn would that be old on number 3.
This episode made me realize buggy is functionally a teleporter. If he swallowed the tangerine they put in his mouth it would go to his body. So he could transfer items from one side of the world to another by swallowing things.
So, even when his parts are separated, they are attached in four-dimensional space or something?
@@YEBISU38 Yes, its why his brain can hear from the ear detached miles and miles away. The only thing he can teleport without killing him however are things he's small enough and safe enough to both swallow and poop out. The cuts in his body don't really sever him in a way that you'd be able to reach in there and grab something. the surface of his cuts become a smooth void preventing damage/disease getting into him inadvertently. Although I have no idea what would happen if you for example tried to cover all his parts in grease or dirt or something before he tries to reform, maybe the obstructions would be immediately expelled because the alternative is that even a single speck of foreign matter would prevent him from reforming.
I suppose he is constantly transporting blood and other fluids between separate parts of his body no matter how far apart they are.
Such a pleasure watching Nux getting impressed by what he believes are new scenes from the live action that are actually pretty much identical to the scene from the anime.
Nami antagonized Luffy the same way in the manga (nux memory strikes again)
She told Luffy to leave after she “stabbed” Usopp to which Luffy responded by laying down in the street. She didn’t antagonize him because she thought she was trapped, she did it to stop them from ruining her plan to buy the village.
It's honestly intriguing how frequently he's getting mad over things that were adapted from the manga (because he doesn't remember that they happened) and in some cases, being mad they didn't do things he remembers from the manga (that actually didn't happen)
@@brentontreloar419 that is actually very funny for me ,but i get it can annoying for some
and i guess he is doing it on purpose
I'm gonna do what every good One Piece nerd loves to do, and fact-check Nux's claims.
5:08 No, this IS roughly where their argument first starts, although for stupid reasons. Back when they first hear Nami killed Ussop, Zoro refers to her as either a "witch woman" or "small fry", depending on the translation. Sanji either gets mad at Zoro for insulting Nami, or mishears him and thinks his saying she has small tits. Again, depending on the translation.
42:40 No, Nami did meet Luffy between stealing the Merry begging for help. It was after she faked killing Ussop. It was right after Sanji and Luffy arrived, before they met anyone else. It was just as coincidentally there, seemingly just so she can claim "Yeah, I was never part of your crew."
Does it also counts that if I recall correctly the nezumi scene went pretty much the same in the manga? just that it was day time it went a bit longer and Nami didnt had the treasure uncovered yet, but nezumi is like look well this amount XXXXXXXX cant be hard to find.
You would think he would get more mad at the fact that Luffy actually stayed and listened to Namis backstory instead of walking away which to me is the more noticeable change
ahem. Luffy didn’t know about Nami’s story in manga and anime too. actually he knew even less. when Nojiko was about to tell the story he was like “nuh i don’t care i m going for a walk”
the same goes to Zoro. he literally slept through the story. meanwhile Sanji got to know the whole story and went full protective mode for her for life (and i think Usop too, just after his life being saved by Nami). at that moment of time Nojiko knew everything. and there was no dilemma. the problem was that Nami was absolutely opposed to any help. and Luffy wasn’t going to do a thing until Nami asks directly. he couldn’t care less about the reasons, he just knew that Nami is a good person and needs help. our boy waited until Nami would be ready.
When I’m in having the worst take possible competition but my opponent is Metalhulk 😳
55:38 That line is straight from the manga & anime. Nami only started crying in the street (the scene you were waiting for) when she realized that Arlong was going to keep taking the money from her indirectly. The townsfolk went off to fight Arlong after they heard about Nami confronting Arlong about Nezumi, and they realized Nami's plan wasn't going to work.
The only change was Nojiko & the entire villlage werre not smart enough to get Nami's plan, and instead of paying up in hopes Nami could win, they didn't pay and get invaded instead of being the invaders when they attacked Arlong Park. Also, they didn't even get to fight because the 2 pirate hunters that were with Zoro stopped them from entering while the gang pulled up
Nah bro including the racism theme in this arc was the right choice. Like, if you have the future material of the manga why would you not do it? I dont see what the downside is, it just makes the story more uniform. Plus, if you can't make Arlong as intimidating as in the manga, then at least give him an extra layer so that he isn't too boring
I don't know, why doesn't Oda tell us in the first Arc what the One Piece is. Man what a hard thing to figure out, why Oda setups stuff for 10 years so the payoff feels more rewarding.
I mean, idk what are they doing with Fisher Tiger now? Rinse repeat the same nuances? And with Orihime as well?
mate, when oda was writing this part of the story he thought he would end it in 5 years, he had no idea how popular it would become and that he would be allowed to keep writing it 20+ years later, i'm 100% sure there are plenty of things he would change about the story with hindsight all the changes in the LA were approved by oda @@gehtdichnichtsan2418
@@gehtdichnichtsan2418let's not pretend they went into any form of detail about the terrible things that are and have been done to fishmen, they had Arlong's racism at the forefront and sowed some seed about the racism that fishmen face, if they get far enough to explore it, the reveal of just how horrific the treatment of fishmen is will still hit hard as the topic of slavery and everything around the celestial dragons hasn't been mentioned.
Calm your farm and stop being a drama queen
@@gehtdichnichtsan2418stop crying
Mihawk: I don't want Morgans after me. He still asks if I paint my sword.
The rant about the them chasing luffy while arlong is reaking havoc is that we know later on it was cause he was bribing that mouse marine to look the other way.
Exactly like that’s whole reason he even got bounty on him afterwards.
The jabbering was too much.
Garp is chasing Luffy. All your complaints about the marine's actions would make sense if it was smoker or someone else who's actually responsible.
Also the racism theme works well with the overall theme of this season because arlong is the reverse of Luffy.
yeah even before the full reveal, its pretty obvious garp is not chasing a pirate, hes chasing his misbehaving grandson.
A whole lot flies well over Nux’s head. I think he’s just trying to make commentary no matter what
42:52 I think there is one reason for her, she knows how scary and strong arlong is so she wants the only people she considers friends to be away from him and safe.
The Nezumi thing also directly happened with him giving it away by saying how much he was there for, only in the manga it's gen that catches the wording instead of nami.
Don’t forget, in the manga, Luffy didn’t know what was happening either. That’s what was so impactful. He literally didn’t even want or care to know what was happening. All that mattered was that Nami was crying and that she asked for help. That’s all that mattered to him.
"I LIKE THAT TWIST" Nux....that's exactly what Happened in the show.
I laugh at the amount of stuff Nux gets incorrect about the earlier arcs, then again he must have watched/read them ages ago
All his early One Piece knowledge comes from hentai doujins.
dude he gets stuff wrong about the episode he's currently watching 🤣🤣
I’m pretty sure that guy isn’t actually hachi. I know they have that and “angry fishman” in the credits but I feel like they may have attempted to include hatchi with CG or prosthetics played by the same actor and then cut him due to not being able to accomplish it or it not working. Maybe. But they’re maintaining plausible deniability to be able to try and integrate the character later with a bigger budget of similar.
Yeah that fishman isn’t Hachi. There’s a random background fishman from the manga/anime who looks EXACTLY like that guy
@@HarrisBoe totally, and apparently the producer has now said that they really wanted to include Hachi and fought and argued to do so but couldn’t for season 1 in the end due to time and money.
Your right but the guy is literally credited as Hacchi in the credits.
Hard to find favourite character in this series, they've all been so memorable. The Actors have done a stellar job.
In the same arc, They name dropped jimbei in the manga as well, just wasn’t arlong
Season 1 made changes to explain some things that may be too sooner compared to the manga and that is because they are not sure of the future of the show will be (if they get renewed or not). From the get go, I already had a feeling the direction they go for the world building especially when they decided to reveal garp as luffys grandpa.
Oda has already confirmed a season 2
@@ghost656metal8not at the time
@@royalfun1031 What are you talking about, Oda released a video talking about season 1, and near the end of the video he said Netflix has confirmed a season 2 and he will work with them on the script
I was waiting for the hour mark.
We all needed Nux’s reaction.
I don't know why some people have a big problem with Nami not telling the village her plan? Keeping it a secret shows how she is willing to do anything to protect her village. Not telling them her plan is a way to keep them safe. Telling them would possibly want them to help her, which would be dangerous. She had to get the money (alone). That was the promise and Anlong didn't say people could help her. So obviously, keeping it a secret from the village was a way to keep them safe. Yeah, it's different from the manga, but it is not a big deal like people make it out to be that she didn't tell them.
Exactly. It also shortens it down so we don't have to spend a few more hours in cocoyashi Village and can just move on to the next season.
I heard about that too. To me, this approach made sense. "To deceive your enemies, you must deceive your friends." - Sun Tzu probably....
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Well also it was a secret in the manga with a bit of a twist. But from nami's perspective in the manga she also didnt tell anyone
I think the issue is with the Nami breakdown. Nami brokedown in the anime not because the money was stolen. Nami broke down because the villagers have had enough and is willing to die fighting Arlong.
i think they chose to include the treatment of fishmen informing arlongs decisions this early on purpose to really drive home the irony of how he treats nami. in the scene with nezumi when arlong starts preaching it cuts to nami and her reaction to what he's saying to show that. even in fishmen island you're not supposed to like arlong and here it only shows how misguided his if even justifiable hatred is
i like this change better than manga/anime
1.i might be able judge an story arc in hindsight but i have no hindsight during my first viewing experience ,and first viewing experience does count
2.this made arlong more compelling character than manga,in manga he was just another evil dude, doing evil things for evil sake,he is still very despicable probably even more since he sound like a hypocrite
3.let's not do oda worship for a moment and understand that he possibly never planned fishman island at the time he was writing arlong park ,so we were always suppose to hate fishman unless oda decided otherwise
The outfit Arlong wears in the flashback is what he wore in the manga/anime flashback.
He also noticed the plates, too.
Nezumi also let the ammount slip in the anime, its how Nami figured out it ws Arlong going back on his deal.
How does Zeff knew that they're related?
"WHO THE HELL IS MONKEY D. LUFFY!?"
To be fair, it IS a bit hard to pull off the fact that the entire village just went along with letting Nami, all alone, basically carry all of them on her shoulders, showing their love for her by letting her suffer for their sake, for literal YEARS.
I'm not saying I have anything against that part in the manga, I'm saying it takes a LOT of really fine-tuned storytelling and very careful setup to make that work. It worked in the manga, but I'm not too sure it would have worked as well in the LA.
I watched this with my 43 year old mam and she loved way more than I expected halfway she was telling me there better be another season, and getting annoyed of things getting in the way of "her show"
Absolutely a great show
Ok, either Nux is gaslighting us or he doesnt remember any of East Blue...
"probably ordered 4 steaks and ate all of them" that got me cackling, Garp is that guy
Jimbei giving Luffy blood was at the end of Fishman Island, NOT Marineford... just so you know...
I was ready to go sleep...but this reaction came out 🤣
Nux, man, youre not remembering it correctly. They did touch on arlongs motivations in this arc in the anime/manga. They made a point to have arlong talk about revenge against humans for the oppression theyve caused in this same arc. They just dug far deeper into it later.
I just gotta say this about Nami and her decision: "Deceive your Friends before Deceiving your Enemies." - Sun Tzu
Nux: Aw Garp is going soft!
*Garp decides to get serious*
Also Nux: I don't like serious Garp
Anything slightly different happens
Nux: "In thE mAngA..."
He does this even when the scene is a one to one adaptation
Can't believe Nux of all people had the gall to make fun of someone for the sound of their voice.
Jimbei was mentioned to be a Warlord who helped give Arlong freedom when the Straw Hats went to Arlong Park. Zoros bros mentioned him.
BRO, THESE NITPICKS ARE KILLING ME. HOLY SHIT.
Fishing is a great excuse to just do nothing and drink beer all day. When I fish I never actually wanna catch anything.
Can you at least WAIT for things to be explained? They on;ly have enough budget to make 8 episodes, you gotta give them credit for doing the entire East Blue saga (minus Loguetown) with that.
I think they're trying to make Arlong seem more imposing and villainous since he's the big villain of the Season and they know Season 2 will be quite a while in the making.
I think it was implied in the live action Garp was chasing him in his own time because it’s his grandson.
That fishman is not supposed to be Hachi bro. There's a fishman in Arlongs crew who looks exactly like him. It's not Hachi,
i do think thats great that luffy got that seriousness in end,,its gonna be weird for me if luffy still smile and do the goofy staff at the end..if they did the exact like anime i dont think it will potrays well in the live action
It's tragic that there's like only one doujin that makes creative use of Robin's devil fruit ability. There's so much hentai gold right there waiting to be plundered
I can't believe Metahulk corrupted Nux so much.
Nux you're literally nitpicking about things that are straight up not changes from the original story. Like I get it, there's changes that are iffy but you're just simply not remembering the og show
Luffy doesn't need to know her backstory, I'm pretty sure in the OG material he avoids listening to other people talk about backstories unless they themselves want to tell Luffy. One example of that is when Nojiko is explaining Nami's backstory Luffy walks away 😱
Nux: but luffy doesn't know
Me: and in the manga he didn't and still doesn't
The point in anime was Luffy didn’t care he knew Nami was also his friend and willing do anything for her. But would been extra scene and moving his character around. Which make more longer.
Jimbei: "And that, is why the fishmen have been oppressed and why you can't fight Hody... ARE YOU ASLEEP?!"
Luffy: "Huh? Wha? Sorry I dozed off, who am I punching out again?"
@@kazineverwind5267controversial sleep
I do think the Zoro/Sanji rivalry was rushed here, but I understand wanting to get that dynamic into the first season.
In the manga, my impression was that it started with disagreements over how to treat Nami in Arlong Park, but didn't really develop into the iconic rivalry until Sanji saw Zoro fighting Tashigi in Loguetown. They just have two totally opposite concepts of respecting women.
Namis mom didn't wanna hide her kids cause she didn't wanna deny them and have them live in fear of getting found out
I’m actually surprised One Piece doesn’t have this many fish innuendos.
Bane from Harley Quinn really left an impression on our boy lol
Her not telling them what she was doing makes more sense then her sister and village letting her did that to her self.
Yo Jimbei was name dropped in the arlong park arc in both anime and manga. Go back it’s there
@8:29 Nux that is indeed a straight. 6 to 10, 10 high straight. Doesn’t matter the suits, just the value. You may be thinking straight flush.
Crazy how much stuff you've gotten wrong about the East Blue saga, It's like you haven't watched it in a decade and like you've literally never read the manga. No wonder you always got so much stuff wrong during the one piece virgin podcast, you were going off memory and not actually re reading it.
He gets so much shit wrong its crazy.
I kept getting your videos recommended to me and I never knew why.
When I saw you do reactions to the OP live action, I wanted to see what you thought.
I binged it ALL. I genuinely loved you guys. You made me laugh and you gave me different perspective on things and I loved you comparing it to the original work and explaining why you thought things did or don’t work here.
Now I know why you were recommended to me, y’all are awesome!
Main reason Arlong wanted the sea charts made, was for the ocean currents, that kind of knowledge would be priceless to anything that can swim in the currents
I feel like maybe Nami doubted Luffy’s strength at least in terms of being able to beat Arlong
I like how the fishmen have dry and raspy voices since they're out in dry air.
They had Hachi fully planned out but they ran out of budget and they felt it was used better elsewhere, hopefully with season 2 not being effected by Covid they can use the budget more efficiently. Also, its no so bad because Hachi could show up anytime in later seasons, its already in his character to be reformed and denounce Arlong even if its framed as him doing it off screen before the events of the show. All they have to do is have him meet Nami sometime later while he's running his takoyaki shop which then sets him up for Saboady, god willing we get there.
The funny thing is Jimbei gets name dropped in the anime by Yosaku on the way to arlong park to Luffy and Sanji.
Nux laughing at inappropriate moments is classic Nux
Watching this with you guys has been my third time since the first was english dub then sub and this reaction been actually awesome plus the crew carrying around Buggy's head 👏 genius stuff also Nami nailed the emotional beats so well and fishing is great I won't stand for this slander.
I just figured out how Arlong's wearing rings! They're not rings, they're piercings! Stupid, I know. It's just the only thing that makes sense.
I believe Nami was trying to push Luffy and the crew away early on to protect him. The same way she did when she told Arlong to throw him into the sea to kill him at Baratie. She believes the only way to keep Arlong from hurting anyone she cares about is handling the entire thing herself.
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The actress playing NAMI is actually a major fan of anime. Every scene she gives 1,000% and it shows. Weebs definitely make better cast members for shows.
Remember. The marines like Garp DON’T KNOW that Arlong is doing wrong in the East Blue seas because Arlong payed off the marines.
Oh Nux, you continue to be a complete savage during commentary lol. That's why I still tune in 😂
3:04 he’s using his neck as feet to dance with when he sings.
The amount of time they pause and talk shit on the most important and intense scenes then get confused cause they didn't understand what happened or what was said makes me want to pull out all my nose hair 🥹😫
I've been having a blast watching so many people react to this show; but, honestly, I've come to prefer the reactions of folks who came to this show blind over those by series veterans. On the one hand, it's neat seeing the excitement of pre-existing fans, who get to experience the thing they love be so lovingly adapted; on the other hand, having to hear "bUt THe aNImEeeee dID iT dIFfeReNtlY!!!" EVERY 30 seconds gets old pretty dang quick.
I don't remember the 'Ice & Fire' readers being this bad when Game of Thrones came out.