DON'T EAT FISH From the NESHAMINY CREEK...!!!
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- In this EPF Episode, I talk about the recent findings concerning the Neshaminy Creek in Bucks County, PA. Be advised: do not eat fish from the Neshaminy Creek Basin. According to the PA Fish & Boat Commission and the Department of Environmental Protection, the entire Basin contain traces of PFOS (Perfluorooctane Sulfonate).
[October 14th, 2021 (Fishing Session Number 76)]
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☣️...Nobody knows how long the Neshaminy Creek Basin has been contaminated with PFOS. Personally, I have been eating fish from that Creek since 2012. 😅 Thankfully, the annual amount of fishes that I have consumed from there were very low (less than five fishes per year; less than 12 inches per fish). The lesson of the day?! Limit consumption of recreationally caught sport fish, since many waterways in the USA are still untested [and possibly unsafe/polluted].
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Department of Health Brochure on PFOS and PFAS: bit.ly/3FSz6lS
Department of Environmental Protection's Announcement on the Neshaminy Creek: bit.ly/3D66Ri7
☣️...Every state in the United States of America has its own Fish Consumption Advisories and Guidelines. These are usually posted online by different wildlife and/or environmental protection agencies. Before taking any fish home for human consumption, always make sure to read on your state's advisories and guidelines!!! This way, you can make sure that you are not unknowingly poisoning/endangering the health of your loved ones (or your own health as well).
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Never clicked so hard, HUGE Fan of YOU
scary stuff, I grew up in Horsham and as a young teen we would ride our bikes to different places to fish and do the catch & cook thing right there stream side but that was over 50 years ago, I'm 68 and retired now but still enjoy stream fishing around the area , hope to see you out on the water some day
Perhaps this will be a blessing in disguise Leo, much like Valley Creek, which remains full of wild browns year-round due to "no-kill" regulations following the PCB contamination during the 80's.
Thanks for the reminder :) btw it’s me Eliot from the musky in the Delaware canal and the Redfin pickerel spot
Videos like this are one of many reasons why I watch and support you, there are to many beautiful places we have polluted and destroyed if we want to continue to have these beautiful places it’s our place to take care of them. I am a survivalist and I’d rather be outdoors than inside, just wanted to say thank you and show my support.
good info. that area looks like a good spot and if it was me, I probably wouldn't have know about the contamination and would have taken some fish home and died the next week. you saved my life, Thanks Leo!
Been a while since I’ve tuned in. You look thinner and healthier Leo!
Sorry about your home river, mine is the contaminated also from steel mill days. But fish are doing better and like you still enjoy the scenery and the catches! Thanks for the update
The species slayer himself is back. Welcome back Leo!
This is my home creek, and I've never eaten anything from here but have caught tons of fish where you're standing up to playwicki. Spend many hours in my kayak above the falls this summer. Glad to see another vid from ya my man.
Grew up there too!
My local creek too
If I'm not mistaken there is or was a chemical plant near Neshaminy creek in the Croydon area, could be a serious factor in the PFOS. Also I have never seen so much litter in a state park other than Tyler State park. Many people don't give a crap about the environment they share with the rest of us, I'm from NJ and our water ways are not any better. More people need to go fishing/hunting to understand that taking care of our ecosystems is a communal effort and if we all pitch in then we all benefit from heathy, ethically sourced food.
Very true, I live in Union County and many rivers and creeks here are always flooded with trash and filth.
Thanks for spreading awareness EPF. Tight lines bro.
I always loved how informative you are
Este lugar es increíble, debe ser una gran pesca allí. Felicidades, capturaste hermosos peces, eres un pescador muy exitoso.👍🎣😊
Abrazos y buena pesca siempre!
Brazil videos please leo
Stay tuned! Those will come after the NJ Series, which is what is dropping next on the Channel. 😎
You have no idea how happy I am to see this video. I was hoping you were going to post something this week. :)
Glad your back Leo
I'm an outdoor TH-camr from Northwest Washington... Awesome video Brotha! Nice Catch too! Keep grinding on that fishing life!
So helpful. I'm here in Delco and I hope I don't see anything about Ridely or Crum... I always appreciate the information EPF gives us. I hope to become a Patreon after the holidays.
Cheers
Welcome back Leooo!!!
A lot of the PFAS pollution in the nesh creek comes from the Willow Grove Naval Airbase (which is now closed) and the old Johnsville NADC which is now Warminster community park. It comes from the fire fighting foam that used to be used which is now in the ground and ground water. So the tributaries in the area carried it into the nesh creek. The ground water in Horsham and Warminster townships is not drinkable
They dont fly planes out of the air base anymore but it isnt closed. Pa National guard Army and Airforce train there and the Air Force flys unmanned drones from there.
@@jlen82 correct. By saying it was closed I just meant that the runways aren’t operational so no more aircraft. Horsham township actually wants to sell the land with the runways to a developer and build a road from horsham road near the FAA tower to 611
Hope you had a good trip brotha! Glad youre back!
Always killing it Leo, getting the word out better then PFBC has been. It’s a massive watershed with tons of people fishing it!
What up Leo!?!?!?! Hell yeah.
Missed you, welcome back
Thanks for the video EPF. Even though I don’t live in the area its disheartening to know that theres a lot more contaminates than just mercury and pcbs in our waterways. I hope that your state makes up for the loss of this trout stream. Looking forward to watching your videos throughout the winter.
Even worse for us who are :/ that was a prime trout spot of mine
My man is back ty
Messed up my click on the notification otherwise would have hit first comment 😂🍻 either way too stoked to get Leo back
Can't wait to meet you in person this weekend. 🤘
Sounds good, Brother! I will be there, at the Ice Fishing Show! :)
Waited for this all day at school. Don’t worry I did my homework before watching!
Finally the King uploads again. Can't believe I'm a whole day late! This video is gonna be awesome I know it!
You are what being a true fisherman is all about or damn sure should be.Mad respect 🤗👊
Hope you are having/had a good day leo
I have a pack of epf swim and didn't even know they were made by you. I'm a new viewer. They are awesome little swimbaits
Damn leo. Thanks for the heads up, Ive def eaten trout from that creek before.
Always sending great info out hell yeah man
I fished that spot a lot this summer awsome too see you uploading videos from here, I lost a nice combo down the waterfall trying to cross it too 🤣🤣🤣
im a simple man, i see epf upload and i click
Been eating out of creeks my entire 45 years. Creek side catch clean and cooks often. Never had any problems but then again, I fish mostly Ozark mountain and Ouachita mountain streams here in Arkansas. I assume you get the same type of contaminants at your local McDonald’s, Hardee’s , sonic, taco-bell, BASICALLY ANY RESTAURANT. I’ll take my chances with the wild over the man made garbage. However, there are a few places I wouldn’t eat fish from but not many.
Ps, just came across this channel and you have a genuine personality that caught my attention. I’ll be dropping back by and seeing more …. :/)
Holy shit leo, you look amazing bro. I've been watching your videos for a very long time. Always love seeing a new video uploaded. With the best for you man!!!!!!
We have a similar tributary that was heavily polluted by Wolverine World Wide Shoe company here in Michigan, They dumped their leather that was treated with protectant all around the Rouge River. It is so bad that we even have signs posted warning us of touching the foam that forms near the dams and eddies due to how much PFOS has been detected within it. It has been found to be a huge risk factor for developing cancer especially thyroid cancer. Our handling of the issue has been fairly aggressive and luckily its still pretty safe to wade parts and fish to catch and release, but it is still really disappointing because the river remains one of the most picturesque fisheries in my area.
Wooohooo! Our boy is back sonnnnnn. Almost cried
Thanks for the Video Leo:) it's a sad thing about pollution in the nesh. Waaay back in the day, clean water was stressed as an invaluable resource, wish more people had listened in class, maybe we'd still be eating fish from all of our waters.
These new sound effects remind me of the ones in the Japanese comedy shows I used to watch
Woo! New epf vid!!!
YESSSSS THE GOAT IS BACK
Finally he is back 👍😂😂😂.
I am an environmental health worker and I won't eat any of the fish here (East Texas) because I am aware of how much dumping is going on. The waterways are polluted with mercury (from coal plants), PCB, and selenium. But one of the biggest pollutants is raw wastewater. The creek that runs through my city has been deemed "too contaminated for wading or swimming" and does smell like a sewer.
Sounds like your state does not believe in environmental protection. Raw sewage is not that hard to trace.
@@nonewherelistens1906 The Southern states seriously believe that protecting the environment =worshipping Satan. I could explain the "logic" behind this, but your brain would explode.
@@imnotirish3221 Sad. Sounds to be something beyond willful ignorance.
When I lived in New Hampshire, I fished a lot of places that looked like that and you couldn't eat fish from any of them due to heavy metal contamination. The areas from Manchester, NH to Boston are full of contamination from the textile industry that used to be along the rivers. Those factories are all being converted to loft apartments/condos now. Very expensive, and probably totally unhealthy to live in.. 🤢🤢
If I was there I would think "daammmmmmm son"
You should definitely try fly-fishing for multi-species. I go fly-fishing in the creeks near me and I catch all sorts of panfish and shiners!
I am camping rn on some island and this was around a long time ago and the google brought me here bcs i started getting hungry lol havent seen you since i met you at a restaurant in new hope
Yes epf is back. Hope you had a great trip to visit your family. Did you get some lifers
You bet, Brother!!! Got plenty of Lifers and shot plenty of videos. Now, back to the grind. 😎
What up brotha!!
Wow it's just getting worse and worse with the contaminants in the water. So many episodes recorded at the Machemini Creek.
I have a real hard time thinking about eating freshwater fish anywhere from northeast. Just too much pollution everywhere.
However, nobody knows if this Perfluorooctane Sulfonate actually harms anyone. They think there MIGHT BE a link to "adverse health effects" after they did tests with lab animals, and they have no idea whether or not it can cause cancer. And they also have no idea what amount is harmful in a person. So the reality is that there really is no proof to back up this Do Not Eat advisory. They're just taking a "better safe than sorry" approach. Eat at your own risk.
I mean if you eat A fish out of a river or Creek from the northeast using your head and educated judgement, will it really be bad for you and have a detrimental effect on your health? Probably not. It's not something I'd do regularly but one fish once in a blue moon has as much chance of having a horrible effect on your health as one has of winning the Powerball and you may even have a much greater chance of winning the Powerball. With all the preservatives, food coloring, even petroleum products in our food and drinks as well as all the GMO foods that are almost unavoidable at this point I don't think that is something that one has to lose hair over. Everything we do these days seems to have a negative effect on our health. Breathing, eating, drinking and shoot even sleeping in some cases can affect your health. And let's not even talk about the elephant in the room I haven't even mentioned that is supposed to be so good for preventing your future health problems but well we all know how that has turned out or at least you should and if you don't then there is no point in explaining it now. So I don't think you're gonna get sick now, in the future or die from eating a fish once in a blue moon from a body of water in the Northeast that one uses good judgement deciding which water they take one from.
Good to see you back brother ! Looked like some black nose dace on your cam in the beginning.
Holy cow!!! I was just fishing here during the weekend, no wonder I didn’t see anyone fishing there, it was just me 😵
Great job buddy.
Thanks for pointing this out. Unfortunately PFOAs are in a lot of things like clothing, furniture, and non stick pots and pans.
That pan is double ironic because PFOAs are used in non stick coatings!
We have PFAS water contamination problems here in Colorado ;from the Military and Suncor Oil Refinery, Ingersoll Rand /Schlage Lock also contaminated fish with Perchloroethylene when they dumped it into the ground/water.
I never fished the Neshaminy - I live about 20 minutes away, but hopefully, the stocking comes around into the Wissahickon. Can't wait for the trout season again with the warm weather though
I'm a hardcore clean water conservationist. Here where I am in Canada, we have one beautiful lake polluted with pfoa,pfas. It's the only lake polluted with these in the area and also such a beautiful one. What happened was, few decades ago the city airport had a firefighter training facility which was using toxic fire retardant foam and years of using that chemical leeched into underground waters which flow into the lake.
Humans are destructive creatures
Yoo! this video is mind-blowing, of the information you're giving out..didn't think about that. to tell you the truth when I'm out there by the water oh I know that I will not eat a fish if I'm fishing in the city local ponds and lakes I know better but I live near the Everglades in didn't think about if if it's contaminated so that's interesting to me to check on my local state. Thank you homie 😎💯
I grew up in Oakford which is the neighborhood connected to the falls. Would always jump off the falls, do the rope swing, make fires, ride quads, catch turtles and frogs and of course fish. This place was my childhood but no matter what I would never eat fish from there
Grew up along the Neshaminy Creek near Hulmeville, more than 60 years ago. Though my home waters at the time, it has always been always been an abused stream. Back in the day failing septic systems were the main culprit. Have to disagree about the presence of dams. They create large 'dead zones behind them, silting all productive water. If the dams were removed, there would be a potential striper run. My brother caught small stripers at the base of the dam in Hulmeville. Without the dams, you'd see a potential seasonal run. Used to be a good white perch run in April on that stream. Don't know if that still exists.
And a shad run..
Removing dams causes the water to cool down, making it easier for trout to survive in warmer months.
@@rogerpatton2242 Hulmeville portion of the Neshaminy is not going to be a trout river any time soon (other than the seasonal stockings) but yeah, in general dam pools warm and silt, creating dead zones behind them, and in trout capable streams, dam removal greatly increases habitat and lowers temperatures. The river becomes more well oxygenated.
Trout fishing is so fun!
Amazing video
Can’t see dioxins, mercury, pcbs, etc in the water….
Always on top 3 favorite fisherman! We have to fish together if your ever north east!
I often wonder about what chemicals are festering in our waters that may look very inviting and crystal clear. We have to find another way to run our industries and economy without polluting our environment. It's time to Level Up!
I’ve grown up fishing the neshaminy to the point that I’d argue i know almost every hole in the creek top to bottom. I’ve always known to not eat anything from it, every time I went out wade fishing I’d find a car battery or so. That creek also has a mean undertow so if the water is high and muddy please avoid entering it, it’s claimed many lives over the years.
It is big corporations not being held accountable causing this. Yet citizens get punished but big corporations get a slap on the wrist at most.
I am very disappointed to hear this news …I take my grandsons swimming up there …Very sad …Thanks for the info
Hold on… why did we not get the “what’s up youtubeeee?”???
Love this Philly stuff
Please do a nyc fishing trip
I will definitely take that into consideration, Jacob. NYC is so close by, and yet I have never done a series there. Definitely overdue.
Green’s Bayou and the upper Ship Channel in Houston have consumption advisory signs( don’t eat fish, shellfish, etc). Saw some guys with fish on stringers, mentioned the signs, they just said “I eat these all the time, I feel fine!”… smh….
People tell me that, too. They don't understand that just because you don't immediately die after eating a fish doesn't mean it's safe. As Leo said, contaminants can build up in your system (bioaccumulation) and you'll get sick later.
That's actually a big misconception regarding this topic, Brian! The problem is that with a lot of these chemicals, the effects are not "acute." In other words, people don't get sick immediately after eating the fish. The symptoms are almost always chronic...and once you get them, it is usually too late. Truly a shame! Hence why prevention is necessary for this stuff.
@@extremephillyfishing Another misconception I encounter in my job is that once something is dumped in water, thrown on the ground, or released into the air it's gone. Not true. Just because you don't see the contaminant after it went into the air/water/soil doesn't mean it's not there. It went somewhere; it didn't vanish into a black hole.
Also, banning things doesn't make them disappear.
For example, my area's soil is contaminated with lead and arsenic. The lead is from the days of leaded gasoline, and the arsenic is from when it was used as a pesticide on cotton plants. That lead was released into the air via combustion, but it fell back onto the ground and lead doesn't decay. Arsenic can't be bought by the public any more, but it's still here because it doesn't decay, either.
How does this affect fishing? All those contaminants still out there work their way into fish, crops, etc.
oh man, so sad to see our waters being damaged by mankind. great tips, man~ should we also start being careful about the pennypack?
Not sure about the Pennypack Creek, GieFaan Kim. For now, we just assume that it is fine, since the PA Fish and Boat haven't really put out any Fish Consumption advisories from over there.
the 20s suck i cant even fish now ware is that dam ? I fish near the falls in Hulmeville right across the bridge this is sad buddy told me it was the air-force base that was dumping.
LETS GO A VID
Leo what rod do you use in this video thx love the videos keep of the great work
All gear is listed in the description of the video, Mann. 😎
@@extremephillyfishing Ok thank you
Hello Leo. My son and I fish that very spot as well. My son knows your nephew and we even ran into you at the wawa. Thanks for the info. Odd thing is about 5 years back a guy came into my work(near your sisters house) with the yearly fire marshal inspection and was some sort of relation to the EPA or fish and game. I dont recall exactly what he said. He was looking hard around the shop for any violations. He was happy not to find any but he still seemed disturbed so I asked what was wrong. He mentioned somebody has been dumping chemicals into the creek and he is back tracing upstream in hopes to find em. He didnt mention what it was and didnt elaborate but now it all makes sense. Hope to see ya out there this spring.
I never eat fish from rivers or creeks around here. When I eat fish it's from the store and hopefully Government inspected. Sometimes we use to play on the sand barge. When I got home, my family would throw me in a tub out back and forget about me. These were the good ole days.
First thought is : I wish that was in my backyard 😂😂
With signs : Litterers will be shot , survivors will be shot again
Does this mean they’re not stocking Tyler this year?
That is correct, Dmatt. From 2021 onwards, the Neshaminy Creek is no longer getting stocked with Trout by the PA Fish and Boat Commission.
The trout in the spring are OK to eat.
It takes a while for the contaminants to accumulate in the flesh of the fish.
Not to prod but did you do any trout fishing this fall? Just wondering since I think you mentioned at some point that you were going to. Either way thanks for the informational video, your recent videos on selective harvest have really helped me think differently about what fish I should be taking and what fish I shouldn't be taking. Great information any fisherman should know
Sadly, not a lot, Nathan. That was partly because I ended up spending a good amount of time down in Brazil. However, I did fish once or twice in December, and the holdover action was still OKAY.
I worked for septa and would look down at the falls there and want to fish it under the RR there’s a bunch of pilons driven into the creek bed smallies abound there
Appreciate you! It is quite concerning the amounts of toxic pollutions that have occurred across our beautiful ancestral homelands. What is your thoughts on the removal of dams? There is quite a controversy here in the Southwest where water is scarce and still they push to expand urbanization in regions already being supported from diverted water.
I support it if there are migratory species of fish that use such watersheds to breed and spawn, LARMii. Though, nowadays, a lot of scientists are coming up with better and better "Fish Ladder" technology that also helps the fish, in case the removal of the dams is not a feasible thing to do!
@@extremephillyfishing Agreed!
Aye you're not dead!
YEESSSS TO FALL STOCKING IN WISSAHICKON CREEK~~!! where do i sign the petition?? lol
My local river here in west PA has had a do not eat advisory for years now because of high PCB levels. They haven’t stocked it with trout since probably 2015 because of it
Great advice. However, my state advisory is saying it’s safe to eat but the water LOOKS questionable 🤣.
Let’s goooooo!
Leo, do you know what these pollutant chemicals are, and where it’s coming from? Very curious how Neshaminy Creek ended up polluted that way.
Yes, InitialDrifterZ. The pollutant is called Perfluorooctane Sulfonate (PFOS). As for where it came from, some say that it is from the Military Superfund Sites.
Theres a creek that runs through my city in the bay area California and we used to have quicksilver mines in the hills near by and the waste found its way into our waters most reservoirs and creeks here are contaminated with mercury. Also a large careless homeless population lives on several lengths of the creek. Just a shame. Steelhead used to run through that creek.
Can someone tell me where that fall is specifically in the bucks County area I'd love to fish here
I fished this whole park since I was really young. Just buy the power bait worms that you have to rip apart. You can catch anything from a sunfish to the large mouth in there. And I honestly use the same worm to catch fish after fish even if it gets cut up or ripped a little they still work.