It was an amazing turn 1, but I've never seen someone so thoroughly set back to turn 0 before!! 1 land and a dream worked for him for so long, had to fail eventually
I don’t play much cEDH but if you’re able to earn a win and time your move to when the table is vulnerable, the exact method for winning is far secondary
I was shocked by the saccing of blood celebrent, which is probably the best creature in the deck, but I guess all that mana with no gas. If you had any gas, though, you use the blood celebrent and the crystal vein to recast krikk and attempt to storm off.
@@MageSkeleton Blood celebrant is a combo piece. Can allow the deck to go off without krrik on board with a villis/sheoldred. But it mainly acts as a treasonous ogre with krrik on board so you can cast all your spells with life.
He didn't have the mana to cast K'rrik that turn, and presumably didn't have access to anything better to sac. Sometimes you just need to get cards moving, even if that costs you some otherwise powerful pieces.
There is always the classis CEDH combo of Mikaeus, Devouring Strossus, gray merchant, any artifact creature, cauldron of souls, and dross scorpion (as seen in 4 CMC Belzenlok)
My favorite 2-card combo aside Thassa's Oracle and Demonic Consultation? Obviously it's Dance with Calamity and Thassa's Oracle 😎 Great game, super funny watching Jim just awkward penguin for a bit on no lands
Lab man is a fun win in Atraxa with kitten, you can probably get there with a peregrine drake and a fun chain of spells. Also the angel’s grace with ad nauseam and lab man seems like it would fit nicely.
Maybe it's because I have never seen Najeela deck do its thing (I may have missed a video somewhere), but I'm perplexed by Jan going after Jim so hard when he was not a threat in the slightest. With Aaron fetching a Delightful Halfling, I'm not sure why you wouldn't hold the Deluge an extra turn.
Games gotta end somehow, and as Eliot pointed out, he was in such a commanding position that the actual wincon didn’t really matter. Great game, greedy keeps, cool to see some monocolor love ! 🌵💚
My favorite combo is twinflame with dual caster mage. Also, can I just say seeing a 7 mv commander take home the w is wild to me in a cedh game. The combo for the win is less relevant to me than how the deck got there.
Etali Primal Conqueror while very fringe cEDH is essential built that way playing things that can duplicate etali, with the goal being this big 7 mana creature that etbs and you ideally flip cast entire libraries off food chain to kill the table/hold prio on someone elses thassa oracle getting hit off you until you exile your own entire library. Aside from food chain you have access to temur dockside loops. You ideally want to shut your opponents out through 1 sided stax like blood moon, magus of the moon, or dosin, and try to mass combo etali triggers. The issue is Blue Moon permission isnt really a style of deck due to control just being really bad against blue farm + 4 player pods. Nymris, Oona's Trickster is the closest you can get to permission control in cEDH since the commander allows you to go mana positive and card neutral compared to opponents each time you cast a control spell.
People tried to do that years ago in the LabManiac days with the UR god. Keranos? It's pretty outpaced now though. Blood Pod or Winota are better options to win while interacting with mana/lands.
The Thassa’s combo isn’t a problem. Everyone may know where you are going, but it’s how get there that is the important part. What really won that game was the amount of value he got off Atraxa triggers.
I play atraxa and actually win with approach of the second sun, which annoys my regular pod. I’ve won tourny pods with it too. It’s a lot of fun to play
I played a game recently with nekusar, island, two talismans, thiracle, wish claw, kozlek and guardianship in my opening 7 and first draw was demonic conciltation....... Didn't draw a land the entire game. I feel Jim's pain.
Love the high powered gameplay you guys put out, I feel like lots of mtg channels tailor to lower end clients. Which is 100% absolutely ok because that is most of the magic community but there’s also a section that wants to see thousand dollar decks face off. Cause that’s how we play at home. Much love
Ugh, Thassa's Oracle... was an entirely valid combo piece this game. Agree with what the crew said, this game was over, Thoracle was just the thing that happened to end it.
So... Where did Aaron get the green mana to cast the Delighted Halfling? At that point in the game, there was no land but Cavern of Souls to produce green mana.
@@radikalskippy yep! It also works with Gemstone Cavern. If the land is capable of producing a colour of mana by itself (as in, not with the help of urborg or something), Exotic Orchard sees that regardless of whether the conditions to produce it are actually met.
@@TheSpikeFeeders Gemstone Cavern needs to have a counter on it to produce coloured mana. If it doesn't the ability "could produce" only colourless. The only thing you can ignore is whether a cost could be paid or not. Cavern of souls works fine, though. So no error was actually commited in-game afaik.
Bit of a mixup here but I get the green from Alex's Cavern of Souls, not Gemstone Caverns. Exotic Orchard and Fellwar Stone can't get any color mana from a counterless Gemstone Caverns but can from a Cavern of Souls. @@mervius
I'm a huge fan of Flicker / Dihada / Underworld Breach combos. I don't run blue cause if I did I would HAVE to run thassa's and although the win con is so basic and a staple of blue CEDH it would be nice to have thassa's banned just to shake up the meta.
I don't think Aaron could have cast the Delighted Halfling after Jim lost his only land. Jim was the only one on the board that had any land for Green mana, and Aaron used his Exotic Orchard to play it.
I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. I would have thought the Spike Feeders could come up with more interesting and fun combo wins that Thoracle wins. I'd have liked to see Etali Primal Conqueror infinitely ETB with Slimefoot and Squee at the helm.
I’ll probably get hate for this, but I like Poison Counters as a win-con. I also play Toxic and not infect so it’s much slower for the most part. But in the Commander scene, as most games are 4 player, it’s much more balanced than it would be in a 1v1.
I don't know how competative theses are but my favorite wincons that I haven't seen you guys use are Splinter Twin/Exarch and Worldgorger Dragon/Animate Dead.
Jim finally being punished for the "One Land and a Dream" 😂
It sucked he didn't get to play.
But he deserved to be punished for it!
The best starting hand if you are at your LGS and want to go look at the commons/uncommons boxes 😂
It was an amazing turn 1, but I've never seen someone so thoroughly set back to turn 0 before!! 1 land and a dream worked for him for so long, had to fail eventually
"Every deck is mono-red if you're aggro enough" is going on my tombstone. Thank you for that.
Jan definitely said "stank" at the start, Jim looked like he noticed but was trying not to laugh.
In fact we'd like to stank all our sponsors.
That’s the most Canadian thing I’ve ever heard Jim say and it was awesome! “The Kamigawa lands are really good in this deck eyyyy?”
I don’t play much cEDH but if you’re able to earn a win and time your move to when the table is vulnerable, the exact method for winning is far secondary
I was shocked by the saccing of blood celebrent, which is probably the best creature in the deck, but I guess all that mana with no gas. If you had any gas, though, you use the blood celebrent and the crystal vein to recast krikk and attempt to storm off.
@@MageSkeleton Blood celebrant is a combo piece. Can allow the deck to go off without krrik on board with a villis/sheoldred. But it mainly acts as a treasonous ogre with krrik on board so you can cast all your spells with life.
@@MageSkeleton okay buddy
Share your lists then if they're so good
He didn't have the mana to cast K'rrik that turn, and presumably didn't have access to anything better to sac. Sometimes you just need to get cards moving, even if that costs you some otherwise powerful pieces.
I really dug Alex's fancy shirt! I really like the purple and black colors, it suits him well
Not upset at seeing Thassa's Oracle combo win at all, I love Atraxa actually. Good game, love the show!
There is always the classis CEDH combo of Mikaeus, Devouring Strossus, gray merchant, any artifact creature, cauldron of souls, and dross scorpion (as seen in 4 CMC Belzenlok)
I have a Mikaeus deck, about to look into these I already have a combo for gray merchant but might have to look up more
My favorite 2-card combo aside Thassa's Oracle and Demonic Consultation? Obviously it's Dance with Calamity and Thassa's Oracle 😎
Great game, super funny watching Jim just awkward penguin for a bit on no lands
Love me a Feeders cEDH game over 12 minutes
1:56 made me laugh more than it should. Well done guys, fantastic decks and game.
My favorite win condition is Alex's shirts.
Also I've been into winning without combos through green white ellivere.
@@MageSkeleton ellivere of the wild court. My bad on the typo.
Very fun game to watch! Even with Jim basically K'O there was still great interaction moments.
No Monica in your life?! Next you're going to tell me there's no Erica by your side.
I could have used the Monica
Lab man is a fun win in Atraxa with kitten, you can probably get there with a peregrine drake and a fun chain of spells. Also the angel’s grace with ad nauseam and lab man seems like it would fit nicely.
It's cedh all good with thassa oracle win imo
Wild start turns into a slow game (very slow for Jim as it turns out). Good stuff
Maybe it's because I have never seen Najeela deck do its thing (I may have missed a video somewhere), but I'm perplexed by Jan going after Jim so hard when he was not a threat in the slightest. With Aaron fetching a Delightful Halfling, I'm not sure why you wouldn't hold the Deluge an extra turn.
najeela is one of the titans of the format for a reason haha
I'm very curious about the thran portal. I may have just missed it, but it seems like an odd include.
Oh never mind, figured it out. Tainted Pact
Imagine dropping a pregame gemstone and being 4 turns behind the table.
Games gotta end somehow, and as Eliot pointed out, he was in such a commanding position that the actual wincon didn’t really matter.
Great game, greedy keeps, cool to see some monocolor love ! 🌵💚
I want to see a Worldfire win, please and thank you!
Could it be that Aaron's decklist for 'Atraxa, Grand Unifier' is different from the one he's playing in the video? Love your show tho!
My favorite combo is twinflame with dual caster mage.
Also, can I just say seeing a 7 mv commander take home the w is wild to me in a cedh game. The combo for the win is less relevant to me than how the deck got there.
I’d love to see a cEDH Splinter Twin/Kiki Blue Moon style deck. Any of you have a deck that does that style for cEDH?
Etali Primal Conqueror while very fringe cEDH is essential built that way playing things that can duplicate etali, with the goal being this big 7 mana creature that etbs and you ideally flip cast entire libraries off food chain to kill the table/hold prio on someone elses thassa oracle getting hit off you until you exile your own entire library. Aside from food chain you have access to temur dockside loops. You ideally want to shut your opponents out through 1 sided stax like blood moon, magus of the moon, or dosin, and try to mass combo etali triggers.
The issue is Blue Moon permission isnt really a style of deck due to control just being really bad against blue farm + 4 player pods. Nymris, Oona's Trickster is the closest you can get to permission control in cEDH since the commander allows you to go mana positive and card neutral compared to opponents each time you cast a control spell.
People tried to do that years ago in the LabManiac days with the UR god. Keranos? It's pretty outpaced now though. Blood Pod or Winota are better options to win while interacting with mana/lands.
Why...wouldn't Aaron attack Jan, the K'rrik player?
Im 5 minutes in and everyone just having a good time is so much fun.
The Thassa’s combo isn’t a problem. Everyone may know where you are going, but it’s how get there that is the important part. What really won that game was the amount of value he got off Atraxa triggers.
Excellent video, I have been watching, worth recommending
Love cEDH 1st turn commander. Go big or go home
I play atraxa and actually win with approach of the second sun, which annoys my regular pod. I’ve won tourny pods with it too. It’s a lot of fun to play
anybody know what Thran Portal is doing in the K'rrik deck? is it just to be able to lose life?
I played a game recently with nekusar, island, two talismans, thiracle, wish claw, kozlek and guardianship in my opening 7 and first draw was demonic conciltation....... Didn't draw a land the entire game. I feel Jim's pain.
I'm a fan of Godo + Helm or Najela + Darevi/Nature's Will/ etc. an aggro player at heart
Love the high powered gameplay you guys put out, I feel like lots of mtg channels tailor to lower end clients. Which is 100% absolutely ok because that is most of the magic community but there’s also a section that wants to see thousand dollar decks face off. Cause that’s how we play at home. Much love
As a krrik player i hope to ser this pop off. (Haven't watched yet)
Ugh, Thassa's Oracle... was an entirely valid combo piece this game. Agree with what the crew said, this game was over, Thoracle was just the thing that happened to end it.
Stank?
Thoracle win wohooo love the content fellas!
So... Where did Aaron get the green mana to cast the Delighted Halfling? At that point in the game, there was no land but Cavern of Souls to produce green mana.
Cavern allows Exotic Orchard to tap for green mana
@@TheSpikeFeeders Even if it doesn't have the counter? That is something I honestly didn't know about EO
@@radikalskippy yep! It also works with Gemstone Cavern. If the land is capable of producing a colour of mana by itself (as in, not with the help of urborg or something), Exotic Orchard sees that regardless of whether the conditions to produce it are actually met.
@@TheSpikeFeeders Gemstone Cavern needs to have a counter on it to produce coloured mana. If it doesn't the ability "could produce" only colourless. The only thing you can ignore is whether a cost could be paid or not. Cavern of souls works fine, though. So no error was actually commited in-game afaik.
Bit of a mixup here but I get the green from Alex's Cavern of Souls, not Gemstone Caverns. Exotic Orchard and Fellwar Stone can't get any color mana from a counterless Gemstone Caverns but can from a Cavern of Souls. @@mervius
No need to name a card with tainted pact.
Nice Win, That was a very fun game!
I'm a huge fan of Flicker / Dihada / Underworld Breach combos. I don't run blue cause if I did I would HAVE to run thassa's and although the win con is so basic and a staple of blue CEDH it would be nice to have thassa's banned just to shake up the meta.
You don't name a card with Tainted Pact, it's not Demonic Consultation
Why don't ya'll use a life counter? Carbon, Moxtopper, Lotus
I was playing thoricle when it was still lab man combo.
DO YOU THINK SQKWEDWERD EVER PUTS HIM NOSE IN HIM MOUTH WHEN HIM GET BORED
We're naming things off Tainted Pact, now? Double triggered on the stack 😂
I always name AWOL
At 8:37, how did Aaron tap Exotic Orchard for green?
My Cavern
Got it! Thanks for the clarification. I forgot that Exotic Orchard doesn't follow the restrictions for that mana.@@alexmcgregor8658
Fun game, Atraxa seems sweet.
@@MageSkeletonYeah, I believe it's in top tier currently
How did he cast ephemerate twice ?
It has rebound, so he cast it once in the end step and again after untapping.
Don't see how anyone could be mad at that combo if they knew they were playing CEDH
I like the K'rrik win con
I feel so bad for Aaron’s turn one lol
Great match
Nice
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But I’m not mad…
I don't think Aaron could have cast the Delighted Halfling after Jim lost his only land. Jim was the only one on the board that had any land for Green mana, and Aaron used his Exotic Orchard to play it.
I'm able to get green off Alex's Cavern of Souls. Weird interaction but Fellwar Stone and Exotic Orchard can add any color because of it.
20:28 naming matters only on "Demonic consulation" not on "Tainted Pact"...
anyone else confused why they don’t use a laptop/phone to track life totals
Thassa oracle is in my top 5 least fav. Gg though. Love kriik
Siempre gano con lo mismo thassa kill
I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. I would have thought the Spike Feeders could come up with more interesting and fun combo wins that Thoracle wins. I'd have liked to see Etali Primal Conqueror infinitely ETB with Slimefoot and Squee at the helm.
its cedh lmao
These games aren’t composed like a chess puzzle-they’re cedh, so this is par
I’ll probably get hate for this, but I like Poison Counters as a win-con. I also play Toxic and not infect so it’s much slower for the most part. But in the Commander scene, as most games are 4 player, it’s much more balanced than it would be in a 1v1.
I don't know how competative theses are but my favorite wincons that I haven't seen you guys use are Splinter Twin/Exarch and Worldgorger Dragon/Animate Dead.
Splinter Twin is pretty unplayable these days, but Worldgorger is still excellent. Evelyn, Tymna/Jeska, and Anje all use it really well.