Oh but don't you watch these videos for entertainment? Or do you simply watch youtube for 1 word answers? I personally watch for entertainment. verac6731 clicks on a 10 minute video with the title "the last time I was in a real fight". The youtuber (lindybeige) tells some interesting stories and goes on about what he thinks the question is asking in an entertaining way, etc. verac6731, thoroughly entertained is about to click off when he realises that something is wrong... the essence of Lloyd's video could have been condensed into a single word! Oh, that would have been so much better verac6731 thinks to himself -- then I could have gone on about my life instead of suffering through a 10 minute video (which I thoroughly enjoyed... but let's forget about that). What a genius I am! verac6731 thinks to himself. I must comment this brilliant insight!
I was a Security Policeman in the AF (back when dinosaurs walked the earth). In Tech School there is something called P.A.R.T., (physical attack & restraint techniques). When we completed it, the instructor congratulated us, and said "I never want to hear any of you using this! This is why we give you a fire arm!"
We got a brief course in that in Basic Training in Lackland, 1971. We got the same lecture because the techniques involved are what’s colloquially known as “dirty fighting” resulting in dislocated joints and sudden catastrophic unconsciousness, often together. I personally think the TIs didn’t want us embarrassing any Marines we might run into. I don’t think they teach that in Basic any more. I didn’t mind at all. I hate fighting and never learned how. I do know how to stop a fight instantly but the explaining afterward can be awkward. Fortunately I have never needed to use such methods. For some reason fights just don’t seem to happen around me. Well, with one exception. A friend and I got into a fight over a woman (yes, he started it at her instigation). We wrestled a bit, I threw him off, and he left. I don’t think either of us “won” that in that later, both of us decided the girl wasn’t worth it.
@@markfergerson2145 "We got a brief course in that in Basic Training in Lackland, 1971" OH You're the guy who replace me! 🙂 Aug. 25 1971. I did get into one Real Fight. Osan 68. 2 guys fighting over a hooker (there were 5000 registered whores they have to fight over This One!) We're walking out and my partners yells LOOK OUT! Some guy is coming at me with a straight edge razor. I had my Stick out the next thing I remember is people pulling me off. The guy spend Months in the hospital. He was drunk (SHOCK!) and decided he didn't like me. Bad Move.
Doesn't work most of the time, doesn't it? Women suffer violence from men a lot, less so nowadays, but it was normal up until very recently, and it still is normal, some places even expected, in most of the world outside the west.
Yep I had "fights" with girls at school, got bullied by the girls because I had always been told not to fight back, so easy target. That was until the day I was sick of the bullying, I hit one of the girls after constantly being hit by the bullies and never had a problem again. I'm not proud of that but it solved the bully problem I was having.
I'm glad I didn't have that problem but I've seen it, and it is way worse than being bullied by other boys/men. Being rejected by the GIRLS - just starting to become the most important beings at that age - must be devastating. Like Lindybeige said - there is no honor to gain. You can only lose - pick your poison. I'm so glad you stood up for yourself and learned that other people's opinions are always secondary. That saved your future self image, I'm certain.
I had a female torturer at school, she was truly horrible, and i couldn't respond, for reasons, and had to take the abuse. Years later, I met her again, and she was lovely!
Another 'Strayan here, and I'm also inclined to believe her. Having worked retail in one of our rougher 'burbs I've met girls and women whose short fuses and propensity for explosive violence give everyone else good reasons not to push their buttons. Now granted I'm a tiny girly-man who's avoided earnest violence so far (and is content to continue avoiding it), but this mostly peaceable existence has been maintained through the judicious application of situational awareness, honest self-assessment, and a robust desire for self-preservation.
During my officer training there was a girl who I had already come across during the familiarisation visit. She would go on about how she’d always been outdoorsy, not really a girly girl (that was bullshit), and how she was always fighting boys growing up and normally won. Well who do you think always started crying during exercises when it started getting tough? You guessed it! Little Miss ‘I spent my childhood beating up boys’.
I ran into Lloyd in Visby during the medieval week. And would really not want to fight him. He is a towering guy and I would have a huge reach on my and the majority of other people.
IIRC he stands about 6"4' or approx 190cms. He's certainly taller than Matt Easton and he's 6"2', as was demonstrated when he did a couple of videos from one of Matts "Fight Camps". Was funny seeing somone looking down on Matt, instead of looking up! lol
The only time I have been in a legitimate "moment of violence" as an adult, I was in a University Library in Nebraska 2 years ago in the social section of it talking with some friends who were with me checking out a tabletop game. We were sitting around, chatting, and I noticed there was a man sitting across the way looking at us. I suggested to my friends that we should quiet down, but my friends protested, claiming that this was a speaking section, and that we were fine. These friends were from the area, and so I took their word. I looked over again and the guy walked up and started to wallop on me, and punched me in the mouth and walked away. We were all stunned, and I only stood up afterwards and naturally said some profanity after him asking him what he was doing. I looked and saw there was a camera next to us, so it saw it all, and I knew that swinging back now was no reasonable choice. I learned later that the guy who hit me was a 43 year old guy who had a history of violence, who just happened to be in the library. I've had a good number of people who have criticized my lack of response with physical violence, claiming that they would have "gone ballistic". In my mind, there were a few factors. One, he had a backpack, which could have any weapon in it. Two, by the time I stood up he was walking away, and so any further retaliation on my end would have been assault on my part. I did end up loosing a tooth during this, but that was the worst of my injuries. In my mind, the choice to respond calmly, and rationally quickly was a win in my book. Plus the university helped to cover some of the costs of getting that tooth removed, so that's a plus. I apologize for the text block, but I had a good story to add to the conversation about a "fight". Like Lindybeige, most "fighting" I do is in HEMA or another such organization where the goal isn't to knock teeth out. I was in Nebraska doing research related to my degrees at the time
At least you haven't typed out yet another lame humblebrag. Did you have him charged? Also just out of curiosity, do you have ADHD by any chance? (Not an insult or comment about your writing, just that people with ADHD have a remarkably high incidence of unwarranted assaults)
You did the right thing, for a man like that is someone that you don’t want to fight unless you’re absolutely capable of doing so. The best fights are the ones you don’t have, or that you walk away from. Your response was the correct one , for you are still here today.
@@jameshill8493 Yes, I did. The court in Nebraska did pretty much everything, all I had to do was provide them a document of my details and such. Still did my part to make the best of it.
I've been in several fights unfortunately. During my teen years I had school fights here and there, defending a friend who was bullied due to their disability. As an adult, my physical fights were mostly against drunk men trying to touch me or my friends without our consent. My last one, though, was back in 2022 when two men tried to break in my house at 3 am. Thankfully the police got there quickly, otherwise I don't think I would've survived.
The last "real" fight I was in (though by your criteria you may not consider it such) was when a mentally-troubled young man attacked me in my home, thinking my child was his kidnapped/dead sister. He grabbed a small, light metal dolly (that my wife had brought home from work) to use as a club, and I grabbed a pair of scissors. Unfortunately/Fortunately, despite all the fight training I've had over the years, I entered the "freeze" mode of "fight-flight-freeze" and just brought my arm up to block his swings, never attacking back. Thankfully, whatever part of him that still had a foot in this reality then seemed to take control, and he threw down his improvised weapon and, shortly thereafter, ran out the door. The police found him quite quickly.
Too true. Most have no idea what a real fight even is. I grew up kind of rough & tumble but I also have the scars head to toe for my trouble. Including some from knives etc. Hence why I spend my time trying to prevent others from going that route. There's nothing glorius in fighting unless it's for the right reasons.
The last actual fight I was in was in 2019 when I worked at a hospital. We fought psychiatric and prisoners in law enforcement custody all the time. To the point where it was so common place very few of them stand out to me. In fact I cannot remember the actual last fight as an event. The last time I used force was in February when I found a burglar at work and held him at gunpoint for police. Pointing a gun at someone is considered using force even if you do not shoot in my home state. He just pled guilty last month and received 30 months in prison.
@@AlecBrady in law enforcement custody. Meaning a patient that is also a prisoner. They would be brought to the hospital for many reasons ranging from being injured during arrest, intoxication (the local jail required medical clearance before taking a drunk or drugged prisoner), medical complaints like chest pains, etc. These patients would quite frequently attack the medical staff. It would then become my job to stop the attack and assist medical staff with applying restraints and/or holding the patient still so injections of medication to calm them down could be safely given. I remember one prisoner, a female, that decided to fight the police officer after she had been medically cleared and it was time to go to jail. She was laying in the hospital bed grappling with the cop when I walked by and saw what was going on. The cop had removed her handcuffs and just cuffed one wrist to the bed. When he tried to put the hand cuffs back in again she went ballistic. The cop asked me to help and it became a nasty furball. I got kicked twice in the head before we got her under control and back in cuffs. All in all I had approximately 1,000 uses of force, ranging from gently applying medical soft restraints to dementia patients that were combative,but more likely to injure themselves then staff, to outright brawls with hardened criminals, drug addicts high on God knows what, and homicidal psych patients. BTW the worst fights were always after stopping a self delete event. When you do that the person can become very hostile very fast.
There are a few years where girls have the height and weight advantage over boys the same age because they hit puberty first. I've also known women who could beat me in a fight, not because they were stronger than me, but because they were more aggressive, and were highly trained in martial arts, so they'd be willing and able to do me some real harm, while I lack the knowledge and temperament to use my baseline advantages effectively against them.
Yes I did some work for the police and one officer said that women police can be highly dangerous in a fight as they can, and often need to go full out.
we always called the fights as school boys "scraps" as its not really fighting and everyone understood what "having a scrap" was. this may be a regional thing to the south west.
I dont know where it started, but I'm in Australia and I would also use this term for any fight where nobody is going all out, there is nothing being argued over, and nobody gets more than a few bruises and mussed up clothes. An argument starts a fight, a friendly shoving match between mates starts a scrap.
@@EuTrabalhoParaSagres510and most fights between athletes (I’m thinking mainly of baseball). Those seem to generally operate under the rules that if you throw them to the ground you win
Yes, it is the school boy scenario for me. I was very bullied at school. One curious thing i noticed is if you stand up to your tormenters, and punch them in the nose, they often become very good friends!
Well, you can really tell what sort of school Lloyd went to, I've known people beaten so badly they were hospitalised after a school fight. And I've known people who would start fights, not to prove dominance, nor to gain any form of honor, but because they didn't like someone and that was enough.
On the topic of "are school fights real fights?" Let me tell you about school fights in my country in the mid 2000s: during the peak of teen subcultures, it became popular for kids to fight each other with knives and machetes. The goal was to destroy the other's face, film the fight, and post it on Myspace and pass it around via Infrared. Teachers were so worried at one point some asked volunteer parents to stay in class because teachers couldn't handle the situation. There were news vans hanging around schools, waiting for a fight to break out and have the first report. Kids would give their testimony live on tv while in hospital with their faces all cut up like Leather face. It was horrible.
think for myself the last fight i was in that involved fists i think i was 18. cant remember who or what it was about.. but the last time i was hurt by another person.. i was 30 and attacked with a hammer had my skull smashed.. turned out i was the wrong person. wrong place. wrong time.. police never found out who it was.. tbh wont call that a fight.. did not even see it coming.. just heard someone running behind me.. and then a bang sounding as loud as a shotgun going of in my head.. next thing i know i am in hospital. so yea 18 last time i had to throw a defensive fist.
The only time I ever got in a "real" fight was when my older brother punched me in the jaw during a minor drunken argument about 12 years ago, and then I spit in his face and proceeded to embarrass myself. It was a horrible experience and I tried to call the cops but my brother wouldn't let me. That is the only time I have been truly punched in the face like that, but I have had more minor fights, I suppose, many times in the past, always started by other people (especially my sister). I've been a lot better about avoiding fights in recent years. In the rare cases anyone tries to start a fight with me (it's always smaller people who I would easily defeat), I am always able to stand my ground against them and convince them to back down. I personally prefer to avoid conflicts as much as possible.
If you take into account the schoolyard fights note that girls and boys do experience growth spurts at a bit different age, so there are times when the girls can have a physical advantage over boys.
I fought my two years older sister when we were both teenagers and she almost scratched my face off and bit me in places I didn't know I had, until I ran off crying. Haven't tried to harm a woman since.
Regarding the end, that war recruitment poster was very clever "What did you do in the war daddy" ! Interesting to think how many young men it got killed.
The closest I've ever had to a fight is like, being a pre-teen, playing whatever games with my cousin, things like hitting a ball on a string around. One of us gets a little too rough, hits the other person in the face with it, the other person hits them back, and then we both leave for a bit until we calm down. My high school was surprisingly tame, at least from what I saw of it, and I tend to avoid conflict
4:15 *HOW* would you have a "real" fight then? Short of the "99% off" isle in a store for expensive electronics on Black Friday. And even that is only a fight until the other side gives up; injury or the physical inability to continue wouldn't be the goal, unless both sides completely refuse to give up. Domestic violence: I can't imagine that there are many people who would want their significant other to feel more than a sting, no matter how angry they get. Yes, exceptions exist, but are exceedingly rare. The only "real" fight you actually have a nonzero chance to get into is if someone tries to rob you and you refuse to give up your valuables. And then that attacker would need to be someone who decides to attempt that unarmed, otherwise it's more of a shanking/ gunning down than an actual fight.
The first and last time I was in a fight I woke up outside the night club, bleeding from the head with an ambulance on the way. One vs many apparently doesn't work like in the movies...
Man, even if it was the liquid doin the talking, I still salute you, nothing more Viking than to know you're gonna lose and step up anyways 🤣🤕 I've been in that situation a few times... Always had good reason, always knew I was gonna get severely battered. Last time that specific thing happened I was like 17 or 18, had just one friend (not a fighter by any means!!) and had only drank 2 or 3 beers, and this dude, an MMA fighter, fresh out of a 3 year bid in San Quentin, was surrounded by his tweaker wannabe AB peckerwood adorers, was aggressively hitting on this cute girl half his age, and pushing her around and talking all kinds of sick shit... i was absolutely fuming... I thought "f*** it, I just wanna get one proper punch in", and I told my friend to have my back as I sat down my beer and stepped up.... I only remember waking up half outside the front door of the house, with my shirt torn up and covered in blood and I couldn't hear at all out of my right ear, my ribs were clearly ruised to shit or broken... But that girl was holding my head up to stop the bleeding, saying how grateful she was, and my friend was there too, with a proper black eye... The girl ended up staying over (in my bed) cause, ya know, I needed some medical attention 🤣. So sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do... It stopped the girl (who I still talk to 12 years later) from something possibly unspeakable happening. Haha my homie told me the story the next day, the dude was straight up shocked when I walked up and threw the hardest punch I've ever thrown, but the dude just stumbled for a couple seconds, but I already had 3 or 4 bigass tweaked out nazis showing absolutely no mercy to my unconscious body while the poor girl was screaming for them to stop....also, my homie had indeed jumped in and did his best to get em off of me, and its things like that that create brothers... Sorry for the long story, I think it's a funny one with a good ending 😀. Most of my other fights weren't funny in any way though, but I don't regret a thing 🛠️✊🏼🙏🏼
I had a lot of fights in school... As far as a girl beating up a man or boy... So you can say whatever about physical strength etc, but I have on 4 occasions, 2 were the same woman, seen a woman beat the ever loving hell out of a dude. Three of those women were black and from a rough neighborhood, the woman I served with was from Baltimore and she literally knocked a guy out for touching her backside, the other was my aunt who was pipe fitter and could crack walnuts between two fingers. The old axiom of "It's not the size of dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog." is almost universally true. The other is that anyone with a fairly sheltered first world white people upbringing versus almost anyone from the developing world or a more "no nonsense" upbringing is much more willing and able to use physical violence when confronted.
The last fight I remember was in the mosh pit of some punk concert when I was probably about 24. I was attacked by a few straight-edge types who had been flailing their limbs in the middle of the pit. I think I had gotten upset and threw a couple of them across the pit. I got a bloody lip but stood my ground until the band stopped playing and the crowd separated us.
While the query: "Have you ever been in a fight" - can lead to philosophical discussion (as EVERY question can) it CANNNOT, even by torturing the concept, be classified as a moral question.
Maybe your OP was said in jest. In which case, I should be LOL and you should recieve many 👍. Stated just as you did - that would be a proper British roast 🤣🤣🤣
Physical fight? Middle school. Me and a kid half my size both got each other in headlocks and ended up laying on the ground in mutual headlocks for about 5 minutes before we awkwardly talked it out and got up again. Definitely would consider it a draw, and a hilarious one at that. Other fight-related things: sparring in Karate, a bit of hema, a bit of friendly wrestling. Also wow, good aussie accent!
I’ve never been in a fight. Never when I was a kid, never on a night out, nothing. I honestly don’t know how I’ve managed it. I’ve been shoved a couple of times which I imagine would have escalated had I been bothered enough to retaliate. But the closest I ever got to physical violence with someone was when I was with a friend in Barcelona and someone tried to steal his watch. We gave chase and I managed to catch him first and tackle him to the ground. But my friend took care of the “reclaiming” process. So I don’t think that counts as a fight.
I have been in a lot of fights , many when I was in school to the point that my report card said that I started most of them . When my parents asked me why was I starting fights I replied that I didn’t start the fights , finished most of them but not all of them. As an adult got into a few fights , and then some where a person was actually trying to kill me , or someone else. Intervened in a few situations where a boyfriend was beating up their girlfriend. The last time I was in a fight was about twenty years ago when a cyclist attacked me , but he got the shock of his life when I fought back and hard , that he jumped back on his bike and took off. Meanwhile I was been held back by two blokes who afterwards said that they pulled me off him to stop me from killing him. As for girls fighting, yes when they are younger some of them can really beat the living stew out of a boy. However full grown women, I know personally of three women who could beat the living daylights out of most men . Now having said that, even these women, even though they are trained in combat martial arts they admit that if they came up against a man who is trained in unarmed combat that they would be lucky if they win. One of them I would not win if I fought her as she actually trains the police in self defence, the other two I would but it wouldn’t be easy , they both told me that even though I am not trained in martial arts or self defence they knew that I could fight and take some punishment and I wouldn’t be easy to fight. When it comes to fighting it’s not the size of the person in the fight, bigger is better, but it’s the size of the fight in the person that is fighting. Particularly if you are fighting against multiple opponents ( not fun ) because when you are getting hit and kicked by several opponents at once you have got to be able to take the hits , because once they get you on the ground, it’s game over. Rule of thumb, when being attacked by multiple opponents, don’t just stand in one spot and expect them to come at you one at a time like they do in the movies, it doesn’t work that way in real life. Always keep moving and fighting until you can make a break for it. Having said all that. The best fight you can have, is the one that you don’t have. Walking or running away from a fight if you don’t need to fight isn’t cowardice or wrong, but a very good thing do in order not to ruin your life or someone else’s because of your ego. The only time to fight is if there’s no other option : ie : if you are attacked or someone else is being attacked and unable to defend themselves.
´For me it was in first class. The class bully, whom I saw pick on other class mates several times by then, was going after my best friend at that time, *on his birthday no less*. That was a bit too much for young me and I confronted him, only to get my face get slammed into a locker and that was the end of that.
It’s crazy with strength. I’m a gardener and carry bags of soil about, the off heavy bag leaves and waste. And a two women were on the train carry a big suitcase down a stairs, I asked to help and joined one of the women in carry it down to find out I could just carry it with one arm. I really don’t think there’s anything in it tho.
absolutely, a couple of punches or hair pulling is not a fight, Ive heard many people, women included, saying "Ive been in fights and won" and most of them never really been in a real fight. Ive been practicing martial arts for more than 20 years now and I even participated in international tournaments sometimes even representing my country, now a days Im older but I still travel on my holidays to meet with my martial arts friends from other countries, to find different instructors and strong opponents to spar with, I mean, I dont consider myself an expert but ive been around enough to consider MA as a career just as much as my professional career or job. having said that, Ive never been in a fight since I started taking martial arts seriously, somehow training in MA more than half my life gave me the conscious or maybe subconscious skill to stay out of trouble, so far, Ive been able to "feel" when something is wrong and to stay safe before things go down, maybe its just luck or maybe its thanks to more than 20 years of training, I dont know. I have an uncountable ammount of hours in combat or sparing sessions with literal thousands of opponents all around the world and with people of all ages and skill levels and maybe that experience can give a person enough calmness to keep your head clear and the ability to think straight when everyone else is getting nervous and taking bad choices, I guess thats why I dont get in fights or always manage to avoid dangerous situations or maybe the fact that I never take safety for granted, but that takes training too. having said that, in my opinion there is no reason to fight unless it is for your life. I believe that you should do whatever to de-escalate situations calmly and in control or intimidating trough your posture and demeanor, generally the other person wouldnt want to fight you specially when you look confident like youve done this before so they start to think they may get hurt. if the situation dont de-escalate then its on, if the person dont care and still want to cause you trouble despite of his own safety or well being, if there is no other option, no way to escape or de-escalate if someone is still willing to risk his own life in order to hurt you if the situation is unavoidable ONLY THEN THERE IS A FIGHT. a fight is only worth it when its for your life or for the life of someone else, and in that case the only rule there is to win, everything goes. Im talking a situation like... I dont know, a shooting or a hijack or if someone comes at you with a weapon, something like that, a situation when there is win or die, thats a fight. everything else is just a fake fight, and for that is better to just go home. I fake fight almost every day at sparing or combat sessions with way stronger and more experienced opponents than some random dude in a bar who wants to fake-fight me, is just not worth it. but in a life threatening situation if you wait for the other person to hit first you are likely to loose, you cant just wait to see if the situation is dangerous or not, by the time you realize what is going on its already too late, you have to see everything 3 or 4 moves ahead like a chess player, and that takes training, if you can predict when a bad situation is comming you may as well not be there when it comes, thats better than to risk getting involved in a real fight.
In highschool, we used to walk to the park on our lunch and slap box. Sometimes someone would get a welt on their neck and would get in trouble for being out of dress code for “having a hickey.” What’s better is that we would admit to the teachers what we were doing so one of us wouldn’t get singled out, and they didn’t believe us
Millhaven 3rd year in solitary, 10 days no food. I got my blocker up, guarding the door, naked and shaved, a clear garbage bag over my head to protect from pepper spray, and my food tray at port arms and 2 trashbags 1 water, one water and shampoo every walk, every hour. 2 am 3 of the Millhaven mafia (google that, or "warden hank neufeld") tried to come in (if it were legit, it would be 6, one with a selfie stick) he tried smashing down on my head. My food tray (heavy brown plastic) hit his thumb before that happened. I cocked back my food tray again and gave him a look that said "you best be leaving". Then he got that look - the one when people get when they realize they F'd up. He retreated yelling "close it, close it". I remembered a scene from "The Watchmen", so I banged on the door several times with this old so many layers of paint, some of gotta be lead knightstick. It didn't come from a weapons locker that have tamper seals on them. I then screamed as loud as I could "I'm not locked in here with you - you're locked in here with ME! So y'all can come back anytime, ya hear? They never tried again, I finally got my transfer, but they did treat me like I was more dangerous than the three serial killers that were on the bus with me.
Oh yeah. I kept it til 35 min before shift change. He came back begging for it. (Literally, not at my insistence). He gets fired and loses his pension if I keep it and show it to the 4 bar in the morning. But they are the Millhaven mafia it's about making as much money as they can. If I cost one a pension, they would kill me. For real, and not just by making sure they put the forty year old white guy on a range where every one else is black or latino and under 25 and hoping something pops off. He even admitted he had to take it back to his car. I told him 30 min, he was terrified it wasn't gonna be enough time. But, he got it back.
About the man vs woman fighting, Im pretty sure my ex will drop anybody that doesn't know her. Yes most man can knock her out if they go in in full, but they won't and they will not expect to get a perfect round house to the head, so that they will not ready to protect them self and its lights out no matter how hard they are. Yes she is not stronger than a average man but is extremely strong for a woman and exceptionally skilled and enjoys to hurt people. I have been in lot of fights, to include shooting ones, I lost consciousness 3 times once be hit by a 2 by 4, once by a brick hitting my helmet being to close to a building I blew up and by her after tauntig here to not hit me in the face because people have broken hands doing that, next thing I know I sit on the floor and my face is red😮 Woman that know how to fight and keep fit are not to be under estimated. I have met a guy who turned out to be a mop hitman that my beloved had put in a coma for a month for calling her a .... and that guy was scary I mean to me it was obvious that guy would kill me if I came down to a fight. And I wouldn't call myself defenseless by any stretch of the imagination but I don't look scary, I'm 1,90 and 75ish kg lean muscle, that guy makes me look like a hairy face child. 😂 But he was scared shitless by my girlfriend😂
I know they are a lot of research but I do miss the Lindybeige history lecture , I will always click on when you produce anything as I love your style and I know the channel has to evolve plus you have to please the You Tube algorithm but yes I miss the lectures 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I’ve noticed it always the kids that were bullied that are convinced that any man can beat any woman in a fight. I don’t know how things are in England, but here in the U.S. I’ve met plenty of girls who could throw down. I got in a lot of fights as a kid and what I can tell you about the “average man” is if you pick a man at random you’ll find someone who is afraid to fight and avoids it like the plague. Like I said, I was scrappy kid and I can tell you that most other boys I met didn’t even like to play fight, let alone fist fight
The last time I was in a fight was 1992. My little brother was high and he said things you shouldn't say to your mother so fists were thrown. I've had a special reputation in town that my sisters cultivated while I was away being a soldier, so when I moved back to my home town I was too considered too dangerous to get in a confrontation with. It wasn't a lie, I'm 6'2" and weights 220 as a younger man and I carried a fighting knife and handgun for decades. I still carry a knife and pistol when I leave the house.
The two closest times I ever had to being in a real fight: 1. Someone broke into my hotel room. It turns out he had never fully checked out, and the staff reassigned the room to me and he thought it was his room, and broke in to get his stuff. 2. At this time, my parents' house was occupied by me, my parents, and my little sister. At 5'8", I'm the tallest of the aforementioned people. I came home from work in the middle of the night one time to see the silhouette of a 6' man in the house. So I draw my gun and very slowly open the door. Before I get the door open all the way, I was able to tell that the man was my older brother who had apparently come by for the night, so I put my gun away and said nothing to him about it.
From someone who has been in real fights: Agreed about schoolboy scuffles vs. the real thing. In the former there is a "winner," but in a serious fight between grown men, nobody wins. About men and women: not at all a popular opinion, but entirely correct.
Never been in a fight. I've always managed to either stare people down with the crazy eye, be more physically intimidating, with a few years of KB. I'm also used to deflecting escalated aggression between others. Mostly, it's down to making smart choices about where I spend most of my time. My bro was almost killed, and a childhood friend got killed, so I guess there's luck in there too.
No adult who's right in the head gets into a fight while sober, and the ones who get into fights while drunk can't handle liquor and shouldn't be drinking.
i sadly started a fight at school w a good hearted friend in the 8th grade and i cant find him to apologize which i dont think i ever did even though we were ok after that. i even built a german tank model at his house which i won 1st prize with at the local hobby shop contest.. he was 1 of he few friends i ever had who was never an ahole. i dont think he even really tried very hard to fight back.
I do not think death or injury as an objective is necessary for something to be a fight. I would say that a fight is any situation in which two (or more) parties having opposing and mutually exclusive objectives, and both parties come to the decision that use of violent force is necessary to achieve their objective/deny their opponent their own objective, and both parties act on that decision with enough competence for it to not be a one-sided exchange. So the schoolboy fight is a fight, since violence is used to achieve an objective, such as social status. Likewise, bombing exchanges between two countries at war, where drones are used to conduct precision strikes against carefully selected industrial targets to avoid loss of human life, and AA defenses are used to counter the unmanned drones, so that there is no loss of life or bodily harm involved in the exchange, is still a fight.
When I was thirty: a young man trying to steal my clothes from a hotel laundry. He hit first, I tackled him as I was going down, and I refused to let go. Lucky for me, we were about the same build, and he had no weapons. Police arrived and took him away. And when I was thirty-five: my then-girlfriends former boyfriend. We grappled, I managed to get his glasses, and he simply could not see. The girlfriend pretended to call 911, I gave him his glasses, and he split. The girlfriend and I broke up a month later and she went back to him. Last I heard they were happily married and living in Philadelphia :)
People take the piss out of Wing Chun , perhaps rightfully, but those sticky hands are amazingly useful. The intercepting fist, that footwork and that grounded versatile stance, it’s not total bullshit. That’s been my experience. Most people who are trying to fight you don’t know how to fight and I’d lose to Connor McGregor anyway.
I once had a mock fight turn briefly into a real fight. Then, once we realised how dramatically appropriate and satisfying the real fight was, it turned again into a mock fight. Afterwards we shook hands and acknowledged that that middle bit went off the rails.
Was your fight a fight, or an assault 🤔? I'm 53, and i was going to say not since my 20's (at the side of my brother against a pair who tried to take our taxi, we were drunk of course) but then I recalled more recent fracas which were more brief, less physically damaging but more emotional in impact. Then I remembered I fought my son in law's dog a fortnight ago as it was attacking my daughter's cat. Very physical, some blood(mine), the cat did not survive, I was an emotional basket case for a week. And here I was thinking my fighting days were over. Thanks for this opportunity to unload and unpack Lloyd.
Same, but 65 - a couple of months ago I was walking my small dogs on leash, and a bull terrier ran out and attacked the smaller of the two. I dropped both leases and wrestled the bull terrier to the ground and held on to it trying to (unsuccessfully) choke it, until the owner ran out and harnessed it. Physically I was ok, minor abrasions as it was on a paved surface, and a thumb with pulled tendons (unusable for a month, VERY inconvenient), but it took me a while to recover from the trauma of nearly seeing my dog die. It still has not recovered mentally and when I walk her, some days she will panic and pull like crazy to get back home.
To my mind, a fight must be: Between two parties of (reasonably justifiably) equal strength, (generally one on one; although two small groups is viable). A physical altercation. Undertaken with the malicious intent (on the part of at least one party) to cause injury, (blood injury is perhaps the minimum level). There are a lot of words (and phrases) which are not entirely synonymous. Spar implies no malice, and more structure; beating-up implies a significant inequality between the parties, (as does ambush)…etc. Is worth noting that in the early to mid teens, girls often grow more quickly than boys. So although the boys tend to catch up later; there is a window during which a girl is not unlikely to be larger and more physically imposing than many of their male peers. This is still a no-win situation for the male, (especially as girls of that age tend to be more than willing to attack the groin); but it might present an opportunity for a girl to “win fights”; (although waiting for them after school suggests an inequality between the sides).
People fight over honour, reputation etc are all just variables of this. A "fight" is when someone wants to do someone else serious harm. I've been stabbed, shot, and attacked by a group, but I've never lost a "fight".
Proud of you 😂. Not ashamed to admit I've had my head kicked in and been knocked out a couple times... I knew I was gonna get hurt, but it was the right thing to do, so I did... The beer helped 😂
I suspect that Lloyd attended all-boys schools? He would never have been witness to a cafeteria fight between 2 girls; it takes some real goading to get a girl/woman to physically fight, but when they do, it's to the death. Perhaps that's why they usually pick a public place to do it (cafeteria) so that they are protected by others from actual death. Many a girl has gone to the emergency room with stabbings from forks, especially in the neck/face.
Yeah, when I was in my early teens it was the girls of the class who would get into vicious physical fights, never us boys. Of course it's random chance that in our class the boys happened to have a healthier group dynamic than the girls but I've seen the girls draw blood in the classroom. There was nothing cutesy of trivial about how they fought.
I think Lloyd led a more sheltered life if he thinks no actual fights happen between school boys or between males and females. Teenage boys absolutely sometimes fight to the death, that's why there is a high level of serious injury and murder/manslaughter in that age group, it's worse it some parts of the world and in more deprived areas of course, but it absolutely happens. Same for serious fights between men and women and teenage girls and boys. There are many cases of such violence, you need only look at the news on a daily basis. Just because these things didn't happen in Lloyd's private school, he can't convince of them.
The last time I was in a real fight was September 21, 2015. Sunday morning, around 9:50AM. I'd gone to speak privately to another member of my church to politely tell her that I was not at all pleased with the way she'd been bossing people around at a volunteer event the previous Sunday. Unfortunately, she turned out to be a narcissist who cannot handle criticism, and things rapidly deteriorated into a shouting match. After a few minutes of being screamed at, I realized that she was actually trying to provoke me into getting violent so she could play the victim later, and left the building to avoid giving in to the temptation to actually throw a punch.
I have been in very few fights in my life, interesting one of the last real fights I had was also when I was 13, when a 16 year old I had been in conflict with (verbal) decided to jump me from behind outside of school. He had me in a chokehold from behind and I was luckily able to get a solid elbow into his solar plexus, which left him winded. I then got on top of him and got a few good hits in before the bus driver put me in a hold and dragged me away. As i won that, wasn't the sort of guy to look for fights and had a big growth spurt not that long after I didn't have any other fights at school after that. The next one was probably when I was 18-19 and my 24 year old brother tried to punch me and I countered and floored him (we were both trained but I was just generally better, I wasn't allowed to spar with him because he couldn't accept losing to his younger brother). After that the closest I have come is getting in the way to get friends out of trouble, and I have never had to do more than doge, parry to get out of the way of a punch or push someone to split them up.
Yeah, it's all in the definitions. Never been in a fight where I feared for my life, just the kind of pissy little schoolkid things. Won some, lost some, more broken up by teachers before any sort of resolution. Been ill a lot as an adult, so confident I'd lose any fight I got into now, which is why the bulk of the exercise I do is focused on cardio. To be fair, I have always figured "out in the wild", showing an opponent a clean pair of heels is always the safest option; you might not know until it's too late if they've got a knife, or friends hanging back, so your best bet is to open the distance fast and keep going.
Yeah, I believe they mean a fight, where you are trying to knock someone silly and they are doing the same. Nobody has to die or go to prison. More brutal than a schoolyard fight, because a lot more power is involved, but not homicidal. Most adults don't fight much if ever, but when they do, a LOT of the time ALCOHOL: was involved and the fights are typically very sloppy. After alcohol induced fights, I'd say road rage would be the #2 reason people fight, but often those are very quick and hardly ever lead to anyone getting much more than their pride hurt.
Never been in a real fight? You don't know what kind of man you are until you fight. The first time i folded a kid with a right to the jaw i was six, kid kept kicking me in a soccer game lol. My last fight I actually lost but it was for a championship belt in mixed martial arts. Out in society though I see 10,000 people back down for every one fight. The thought of someone making a victim of me would haunt me in my private moments. The loser of a fight sleeps more soundly than a coward.
This huge difference between cultures always baffles me ... Backing away from a fight is called being a grown up where I live, because violence is the monopoly of the state.
Lloyd is wrong. At the age of 6-12 years, girls are quite capable of beating boys. Also, girls usually start puberty earlier. As a result, there may be a window of opportunity for some girls. Also, when it comes to older people, the differences also decrease. Also, for example, when I was at school, we had girls under 190 cm tall and weighing 80-90 kg, with an athletic build, fully formed at the age of 14. And in my class there was a boy who was 160 cm and weighed 45 kg. Hmm, I wonder who would beat whom? I'm from Russia and went to school in the 90s. A girl who could break a jaw with a well-placed blow was not such a rarity.
You sound like you do not grasp the expressions "on average" and "in a population". Read scientific papers about subjects you already have some interest/superficial knowledge about and at the same time have a text book about statistics beside you, to clearify expressions you encounter.
@@impalaSS65 A similar situation occurred in half of the classes. The mixed ethnic composition of schoolchildren and, in general, people in the region, provides a very diverse sample. I know what an average is and what statistics are. About age, the onset of puberty, of course, you ignored my statement. When you talk about the average population, these data are very different from country to country, from city to city. I live in the Far East of Russia. People from all over the world are gathered here. That is why the phenotype on average in the population is very diverse. But of course, tell me about where I live, what and who surrounds me. It is naive to compare a non-existent average man with a non-existent average woman. If you take a random sample of 100 men of similar age and 100 women, there are quite a few larger women here in our region. There is simply a wide variety of phenotypes and not a homogeneous population here.
@@_B_B_B A fight in prepubertal ages is irrelevant in the case Lindybeige refer to. You still have to factor in the cultural importance of not hitting girls/nothing to gain for a boy. You are still on the individual level in your references; unless you live in a comic book after a nuclear catastrophy with fantastic mutants (few does). You should heed advice, rather than talking ignorance. Good luck.
That chick Amy from Amy and the Sniffers comes to mind... Yeah she's most definitely not big, but I guarantee she's knocked down more than one pushy dude 😂
That would depend on the Brit. How about a soccer hooligan? 'Last Friday during the soccer game that is when. Dint lose, fell down drunk'. Never been there, but that is how I imagine it. Toss in an heavy accent.
@@EuTrabalhoParaSagres510 Nice that you like it but no. Pretty sure that Ethelred died before Harald Hardrede was born. There is no correct spelling for either. Just like any other word for that time period. Modern Brits cannot even pronounce Mafia correctly so why would they get old Saxon or Norwegian right? Hon. Nyrum Reynolds I will say, that a man must be a d-d fool, who can’t spell a word more than one way. Often falsely attributed to Mark Twain. Like a LOT of spelling in English. Some idiot decided that there was a CORRECT spelling, in both England and America, only different people, and then idiot teachers insisted that obsolete spelling MUST BE THE ONLY WAY TO SPELL. And students were terrorized into thinking that was correct, as if we where French. No Cross of dictionaries No Crown of English pedants Thro off yor chanes of opreshon Spel the way its pronounsd Ethelred Hardrede Speleeng Revolushionary Lutenent Kernal In Charge Of Egsamples
@@EuTrabalhoParaSagres510 Nice that you like it but no. Pretty sure that Ethelred died before Harald Hardrede was born. There is no correct spelling for either. Just like any other word for that time period. Modern Brits cannot even pronounce Mafia correctly so why would they get old Saxon or Norwegian right?
The last time I was in a fight I was circled by terrible ninjas. The belief is that I was the victim of a gang initiation. I found out I’m not Bruce Lee. I was not the victor of that altercation.
I think one thing us men forget is the amount of pent up rage a lot of women have which I think would be something they'd be able to utilise in a fight
Not sure. Someone in my school got a broken nose in a fight. I suppose in hindsight it wasn’t really that bad of a fight, just happened to have his face in the wrong place at the wrong time. Was only the first blow, and I guess a broken nose isn’t that bad all things considered.
I was the last person Lindy had a physical fight with. I bumped into him in Sainsburys. He was at the check out till and he was trying to walk out without paying. The staff kept saying 'Sir, sir, you have to pay for those' and he was just ignoring her and repeating 'you have to pay for those' in a sarcastic voice. As he went to walk out of the door doing monkey motions and gestures and, being a big fan, I asked him for a picture. He just stopped, turned to me and made more monkey noises in my face. I was really embarrassed and didn't know what to do, so I asked him for a picture again and then he kicked me hard in the groin then proceeded to laugh like a maniac and run away as I crumpled to the floor.
Actually I was the last person he had a physical fight with. It was right after what you described, I stopped him and told him that he was really rude and should wait for the police now. He grabbed a Brown Bess and shot me in the face, killing me instantly. Tbh I was rather annoyed with him after that.
We desperately need a 1 hour lecture on an obscure piece of history soon.
Agreed
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WE DEMAND IT
I WANT THIS
REALTALK !!!!!
Why answer the question with one word "never" if you can answer with 5000 words😂
You yourself clearly don't mind wasting your precious words for petty updoots. Why *not* use more words?
Go get in a fight, kid.
Oh but don't you watch these videos for entertainment? Or do you simply watch youtube for 1 word answers? I personally watch for entertainment.
verac6731 clicks on a 10 minute video with the title "the last time I was in a real fight". The youtuber (lindybeige) tells some interesting stories and goes on about what he thinks the question is asking in an entertaining way, etc. verac6731, thoroughly entertained is about to click off when he realises that something is wrong... the essence of Lloyd's video could have been condensed into a single word! Oh, that would have been so much better verac6731 thinks to himself -- then I could have gone on about my life instead of suffering through a 10 minute video (which I thoroughly enjoyed... but let's forget about that). What a genius I am! verac6731 thinks to himself. I must comment this brilliant insight!
Cant answer without first going on about what fighting means and why girls are weak of course
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@@baj5763 Great comment and I'm a "she". And I was only teasing. Of course I enjoyed his ten minute video on how he has never been in a fight!
"SHAVING FOAM FIGHT! - Lloyd, hold the coats!"
What next your GTA KD ratio
I was a Security Policeman in the AF (back when dinosaurs walked the earth). In Tech School there is something called P.A.R.T., (physical attack & restraint techniques). When we completed it, the instructor congratulated us, and said "I never want to hear any of you using this! This is why we give you a fire arm!"
We got a brief course in that in Basic Training in Lackland, 1971. We got the same lecture because the techniques involved are what’s colloquially known as “dirty fighting” resulting in dislocated joints and sudden catastrophic unconsciousness, often together. I personally think the TIs didn’t want us embarrassing any Marines we might run into. I don’t think they teach that in Basic any more.
I didn’t mind at all. I hate fighting and never learned how. I do know how to stop a fight instantly but the explaining afterward can be awkward. Fortunately I have never needed to use such methods. For some reason fights just don’t seem to happen around me.
Well, with one exception. A friend and I got into a fight over a woman (yes, he started it at her instigation). We wrestled a bit, I threw him off, and he left. I don’t think either of us “won” that in that later, both of us decided the girl wasn’t worth it.
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"We got a brief course in that in Basic Training in Lackland, 1971"
OH You're the guy who replace me! 🙂
Aug. 25 1971.
I did get into one Real Fight. Osan 68. 2 guys fighting over a hooker (there were 5000 registered whores they have to fight over This One!) We're walking out and my partners yells LOOK OUT! Some guy is coming at me with a straight edge razor. I had my Stick out the next thing I remember is people pulling me off. The guy spend Months in the hospital. He was drunk (SHOCK!) and decided he didn't like me. Bad Move.
@@stevenwiederholt7000Yeah I call that a case of instant karma for sure 😅
That you cannot win a fight against a girl proves that, in addition to plate and plot armor, there is social armor.
Don’t forget tone armor!
Only if you play the game.
Doesn't work most of the time, doesn't it? Women suffer violence from men a lot, less so nowadays, but it was normal up until very recently, and it still is normal, some places even expected, in most of the world outside the west.
Eh. Man can't "win" fighting woman, but that no mean woman ain't suffer the loss.
Yep I had "fights" with girls at school, got bullied by the girls because I had always been told not to fight back, so easy target. That was until the day I was sick of the bullying, I hit one of the girls after constantly being hit by the bullies and never had a problem again.
I'm not proud of that but it solved the bully problem I was having.
I'm glad I didn't have that problem but I've seen it, and it is way worse than being bullied by other boys/men. Being rejected by the GIRLS - just starting to become the most important beings at that age - must be devastating.
Like Lindybeige said - there is no honor to gain. You can only lose - pick your poison.
I'm so glad you stood up for yourself and learned that other people's opinions are always secondary. That saved your future self image, I'm certain.
I had a female torturer at school, she was truly horrible, and i couldn't respond, for reasons, and had to take the abuse. Years later, I met her again, and she was lovely!
You are lucky she didnt have brothers or a boyfriend tbh. I know its not your fault she started it but still..
If you get out of a shaving cream fight without getting a spec on you, you've lost.
As an Australian your account of the Australian lady sounds 100% true. Plus the “okay love” adds so much more to the story.
He did a pretty good accent, too.
Another 'Strayan here, and I'm also inclined to believe her.
Having worked retail in one of our rougher 'burbs I've met girls and women whose short fuses and propensity for explosive violence give everyone else good reasons not to push their buttons. Now granted I'm a tiny girly-man who's avoided earnest violence so far (and is content to continue avoiding it), but this mostly peaceable existence has been maintained through the judicious application of situational awareness, honest self-assessment, and a robust desire for self-preservation.
@@KristovMars yeah I'm Australian as well and not believing her makes him sound really coddled to me 😅
During my officer training there was a girl who I had already come across during the familiarisation visit. She would go on about how she’d always been outdoorsy, not really a girly girl (that was bullshit), and how she was always fighting boys growing up and normally won. Well who do you think always started crying during exercises when it started getting tough?
You guessed it! Little Miss ‘I spent my childhood beating up boys’.
@@KristovMars in school, you muppet
I ran into Lloyd in Visby during the medieval week. And would really not want to fight him. He is a towering guy and I would have a huge reach on my and the majority of other people.
He’s also a dancer, so will have some moves
"He's a big boy, you'll need to take him from behind" ~ Master chief, G.I. Jane movie.
Ok Frodo
IIRC he stands about 6"4' or approx 190cms. He's certainly taller than Matt Easton and he's 6"2', as was demonstrated when he did a couple of videos from one of Matts "Fight Camps". Was funny seeing somone looking down on Matt, instead of looking up! lol
@@mccleod6235 if he fought like Gollum I'd bet on him
Fucking love lindy, he's such an all round good egg. Intellegent, humours, genuine, thoughtful, honest, interesting and my favorite person on youtube
The only time I have been in a legitimate "moment of violence" as an adult, I was in a University Library in Nebraska 2 years ago in the social section of it talking with some friends who were with me checking out a tabletop game. We were sitting around, chatting, and I noticed there was a man sitting across the way looking at us. I suggested to my friends that we should quiet down, but my friends protested, claiming that this was a speaking section, and that we were fine. These friends were from the area, and so I took their word. I looked over again and the guy walked up and started to wallop on me, and punched me in the mouth and walked away. We were all stunned, and I only stood up afterwards and naturally said some profanity after him asking him what he was doing. I looked and saw there was a camera next to us, so it saw it all, and I knew that swinging back now was no reasonable choice. I learned later that the guy who hit me was a 43 year old guy who had a history of violence, who just happened to be in the library. I've had a good number of people who have criticized my lack of response with physical violence, claiming that they would have "gone ballistic". In my mind, there were a few factors. One, he had a backpack, which could have any weapon in it. Two, by the time I stood up he was walking away, and so any further retaliation on my end would have been assault on my part. I did end up loosing a tooth during this, but that was the worst of my injuries. In my mind, the choice to respond calmly, and rationally quickly was a win in my book. Plus the university helped to cover some of the costs of getting that tooth removed, so that's a plus. I apologize for the text block, but I had a good story to add to the conversation about a "fight". Like Lindybeige, most "fighting" I do is in HEMA or another such organization where the goal isn't to knock teeth out.
I was in Nebraska doing research related to my degrees at the time
At least you haven't typed out yet another lame humblebrag. Did you have him charged? Also just out of curiosity, do you have ADHD by any chance? (Not an insult or comment about your writing, just that people with ADHD have a remarkably high incidence of unwarranted assaults)
You did the right thing, for a man like that is someone that you don’t want to fight unless you’re absolutely capable of doing so.
The best fights are the ones you don’t have, or that you walk away from. Your response was the correct one , for you are still here today.
Appropriate response when dealing with someone who is, at best slightly unhinged or at worse psychotic.
Did you press charges against him?
@@jameshill8493 Yes, I did. The court in Nebraska did pretty much everything, all I had to do was provide them a document of my details and such. Still did my part to make the best of it.
I've been in several fights unfortunately. During my teen years I had school fights here and there, defending a friend who was bullied due to their disability.
As an adult, my physical fights were mostly against drunk men trying to touch me or my friends without our consent.
My last one, though, was back in 2022 when two men tried to break in my house at 3 am. Thankfully the police got there quickly, otherwise I don't think I would've survived.
The last "real" fight I was in (though by your criteria you may not consider it such) was when a mentally-troubled young man attacked me in my home, thinking my child was his kidnapped/dead sister. He grabbed a small, light metal dolly (that my wife had brought home from work) to use as a club, and I grabbed a pair of scissors. Unfortunately/Fortunately, despite all the fight training I've had over the years, I entered the "freeze" mode of "fight-flight-freeze" and just brought my arm up to block his swings, never attacking back. Thankfully, whatever part of him that still had a foot in this reality then seemed to take control, and he threw down his improvised weapon and, shortly thereafter, ran out the door. The police found him quite quickly.
Too true. Most have no idea what a real fight even is. I grew up kind of rough & tumble but I also have the scars head to toe for my trouble. Including some from knives etc. Hence why I spend my time trying to prevent others from going that route. There's nothing glorius in fighting unless it's for the right reasons.
The last actual fight I was in was in 2019 when I worked at a hospital. We fought psychiatric and prisoners in law enforcement custody all the time. To the point where it was so common place very few of them stand out to me. In fact I cannot remember the actual last fight as an event.
The last time I used force was in February when I found a burglar at work and held him at gunpoint for police. Pointing a gun at someone is considered using force even if you do not shoot in my home state. He just pled guilty last month and received 30 months in prison.
What's a prisoner in law?
@@AlecBrady Read it properly.
@@AlecBradyyour wife's prisoner
@@PutItAway101 isn't it the writer's job to write it properly?
@@AlecBrady in law enforcement custody. Meaning a patient that is also a prisoner. They would be brought to the hospital for many reasons ranging from being injured during arrest, intoxication (the local jail required medical clearance before taking a drunk or drugged prisoner), medical complaints like chest pains, etc.
These patients would quite frequently attack the medical staff. It would then become my job to stop the attack and assist medical staff with applying restraints and/or holding the patient still so injections of medication to calm them down could be safely given.
I remember one prisoner, a female, that decided to fight the police officer after she had been medically cleared and it was time to go to jail. She was laying in the hospital bed grappling with the cop when I walked by and saw what was going on. The cop had removed her handcuffs and just cuffed one wrist to the bed. When he tried to put the hand cuffs back in again she went ballistic.
The cop asked me to help and it became a nasty furball. I got kicked twice in the head before we got her under control and back in cuffs.
All in all I had approximately 1,000 uses of force, ranging from gently applying medical soft restraints to dementia patients that were combative,but more likely to injure themselves then staff, to outright brawls with hardened criminals, drug addicts high on God knows what, and homicidal psych patients. BTW the worst fights were always after stopping a self delete event. When you do that the person can become very hostile very fast.
There are a few years where girls have the height and weight advantage over boys the same age because they hit puberty first.
I've also known women who could beat me in a fight, not because they were stronger than me, but because they were more aggressive, and were highly trained in martial arts, so they'd be willing and able to do me some real harm, while I lack the knowledge and temperament to use my baseline advantages effectively against them.
Yes I did some work for the police and one officer said that women police can be highly dangerous in a fight as they can, and often need to go full out.
we always called the fights as school boys "scraps" as its not really fighting and everyone understood what "having a scrap" was. this may be a regional thing to the south west.
I dont know where it started, but I'm in Australia and I would also use this term for any fight where nobody is going all out, there is nothing being argued over, and nobody gets more than a few bruises and mussed up clothes. An argument starts a fight, a friendly shoving match between mates starts a scrap.
Most fights between drunk football fans would fall under that category
@@EuTrabalhoParaSagres510and most fights between athletes (I’m thinking mainly of baseball). Those seem to generally operate under the rules that if you throw them to the ground you win
Yes, it is the school boy scenario for me. I was very bullied at school.
One curious thing i noticed is if you stand up to your tormenters, and punch them in the nose, they often become very good friends!
Well, you can really tell what sort of school Lloyd went to, I've known people beaten so badly they were hospitalised after a school fight. And I've known people who would start fights, not to prove dominance, nor to gain any form of honor, but because they didn't like someone and that was enough.
3rd world country, like the US, I imagine
We had kids stab eachother, I'd say that was a "real fight".
Yes, yes a real edgy boy.
@@1IGG Nope - any country with boys. I've lived in a few, and I have a big mouth.
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That is attempted murder not a fight.
I once brought a truncheon to a gun fight. I lost, big time.
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Did you live?
@@jimbob3332no, I was the truncheon
@@jimbob3332 Probably not but seems he got better.
Another superb Lindy video. 10:32 on "Have you ever been in a fight?" and 10:30 of the runtime spent deciding what is (or isn't) a 'fight'! 🙂
Context!
Haha Easton approved
On the topic of "are school fights real fights?" Let me tell you about school fights in my country in the mid 2000s: during the peak of teen subcultures, it became popular for kids to fight each other with knives and machetes. The goal was to destroy the other's face, film the fight, and post it on Myspace and pass it around via Infrared. Teachers were so worried at one point some asked volunteer parents to stay in class because teachers couldn't handle the situation. There were news vans hanging around schools, waiting for a fight to break out and have the first report. Kids would give their testimony live on tv while in hospital with their faces all cut up like Leather face. It was horrible.
Let me guess- Scotland? In specific, the Glasgow area?? 🤣🤕
I love this channel. I like some more of the long form stuff, but I love Lloyd's thought processes on things.
think for myself the last fight i was in that involved fists i think i was 18. cant remember who or what it was about.. but the last time i was hurt by another person.. i was 30 and attacked with a hammer had my skull smashed.. turned out i was the wrong person. wrong place. wrong time.. police never found out who it was.. tbh wont call that a fight.. did not even see it coming.. just heard someone running behind me.. and then a bang sounding as loud as a shotgun going of in my head.. next thing i know i am in hospital. so yea 18 last time i had to throw a defensive fist.
That sounds horrible, the hammer thing, am glad to hear you survived without any lingering injury.
man that sounds crazy. sympathies. but definitely not a fight. that was an ambush, executed with such luck that no response was possible.
The only time I ever got in a "real" fight was when my older brother punched me in the jaw during a minor drunken argument about 12 years ago, and then I spit in his face and proceeded to embarrass myself. It was a horrible experience and I tried to call the cops but my brother wouldn't let me. That is the only time I have been truly punched in the face like that, but I have had more minor fights, I suppose, many times in the past, always started by other people (especially my sister). I've been a lot better about avoiding fights in recent years. In the rare cases anyone tries to start a fight with me (it's always smaller people who I would easily defeat), I am always able to stand my ground against them and convince them to back down. I personally prefer to avoid conflicts as much as possible.
your content has leveled up! love to see it!
If you take into account the schoolyard fights note that girls and boys do experience growth spurts at a bit different age, so there are times when the girls can have a physical advantage over boys.
Never was my guess after you said that you'd never been drunk.
Lmfao
8:33 into this video made me laugh the most and I can soo relate it’s almost common down here in NZ. Keep up the great videos
I fought my two years older sister when we were both teenagers and she almost scratched my face off and bit me in places I didn't know I had, until I ran off crying. Haven't tried to harm a woman since.
Thanks for posting, always a pleasure to hear your musings.
Lindyman, you are quite the politician at answering questions…
Regarding the end, that war recruitment poster was very clever "What did you do in the war daddy" ! Interesting to think how many young men it got killed.
The closest I've ever had to a fight is like, being a pre-teen, playing whatever games with my cousin, things like hitting a ball on a string around. One of us gets a little too rough, hits the other person in the face with it, the other person hits them back, and then we both leave for a bit until we calm down. My high school was surprisingly tame, at least from what I saw of it, and I tend to avoid conflict
4:15 *HOW* would you have a "real" fight then? Short of the "99% off" isle in a store for expensive electronics on Black Friday. And even that is only a fight until the other side gives up; injury or the physical inability to continue wouldn't be the goal, unless both sides completely refuse to give up. Domestic violence: I can't imagine that there are many people who would want their significant other to feel more than a sting, no matter how angry they get. Yes, exceptions exist, but are exceedingly rare. The only "real" fight you actually have a nonzero chance to get into is if someone tries to rob you and you refuse to give up your valuables. And then that attacker would need to be someone who decides to attempt that unarmed, otherwise it's more of a shanking/ gunning down than an actual fight.
The first and last time I was in a fight I woke up outside the night club, bleeding from the head with an ambulance on the way. One vs many apparently doesn't work like in the movies...
Man, even if it was the liquid doin the talking, I still salute you, nothing more Viking than to know you're gonna lose and step up anyways 🤣🤕
I've been in that situation a few times... Always had good reason, always knew I was gonna get severely battered. Last time that specific thing happened I was like 17 or 18, had just one friend (not a fighter by any means!!) and had only drank 2 or 3 beers, and this dude, an MMA fighter, fresh out of a 3 year bid in San Quentin, was surrounded by his tweaker wannabe AB peckerwood adorers, was aggressively hitting on this cute girl half his age, and pushing her around and talking all kinds of sick shit... i was absolutely fuming... I thought "f*** it, I just wanna get one proper punch in", and I told my friend to have my back as I sat down my beer and stepped up.... I only remember waking up half outside the front door of the house, with my shirt torn up and covered in blood and I couldn't hear at all out of my right ear, my ribs were clearly ruised to shit or broken... But that girl was holding my head up to stop the bleeding, saying how grateful she was, and my friend was there too, with a proper black eye... The girl ended up staying over (in my bed) cause, ya know, I needed some medical attention 🤣. So sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do... It stopped the girl (who I still talk to 12 years later) from something possibly unspeakable happening. Haha my homie told me the story the next day, the dude was straight up shocked when I walked up and threw the hardest punch I've ever thrown, but the dude just stumbled for a couple seconds, but I already had 3 or 4 bigass tweaked out nazis showing absolutely no mercy to my unconscious body while the poor girl was screaming for them to stop....also, my homie had indeed jumped in and did his best to get em off of me, and its things like that that create brothers... Sorry for the long story, I think it's a funny one with a good ending 😀. Most of my other fights weren't funny in any way though, but I don't regret a thing 🛠️✊🏼🙏🏼
The postulation on what constitutes a fight was interesting. IMO - an exchange of blows, with intent to injure, by two or more combatants.
I had a lot of fights in school... As far as a girl beating up a man or boy... So you can say whatever about physical strength etc, but I have on 4 occasions, 2 were the same woman, seen a woman beat the ever loving hell out of a dude. Three of those women were black and from a rough neighborhood, the woman I served with was from Baltimore and she literally knocked a guy out for touching her backside, the other was my aunt who was pipe fitter and could crack walnuts between two fingers. The old axiom of "It's not the size of dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog." is almost universally true. The other is that anyone with a fairly sheltered first world white people upbringing versus almost anyone from the developing world or a more "no nonsense" upbringing is much more willing and able to use physical violence when confronted.
The last fight I remember was in the mosh pit of some punk concert when I was probably about 24. I was attacked by a few straight-edge types who had been flailing their limbs in the middle of the pit. I think I had gotten upset and threw a couple of them across the pit. I got a bloody lip but stood my ground until the band stopped playing and the crowd separated us.
I'm enjoying these series of moral questions. Thanks for your hard work.
While the query: "Have you ever been in a fight" - can lead to philosophical discussion (as EVERY question can) it CANNNOT, even by torturing the concept, be classified as a moral question.
"Hard Work".
Hard NO. - well, maybe for Lindy & yourself - this qualifies as hard work 🤦♂️.
Maybe your OP was said in jest. In which case, I should be LOL and you should recieve many 👍. Stated just as you did - that would be a proper British roast 🤣🤣🤣
@@yeahnaaa292I bet you're fun at parties
@@14thcenturyfox Parties? They're a bit outside of your experience.
Physical fight? Middle school. Me and a kid half my size both got each other in headlocks and ended up laying on the ground in mutual headlocks for about 5 minutes before we awkwardly talked it out and got up again. Definitely would consider it a draw, and a hilarious one at that. Other fight-related things: sparring in Karate, a bit of hema, a bit of friendly wrestling. Also wow, good aussie accent!
I love this series of videos talking about a question
Im proud of Lindy. Looks good. Fun. And dang...that chair. Reeks of success. Good for us.
I’ve never been in a fight. Never when I was a kid, never on a night out, nothing. I honestly don’t know how I’ve managed it. I’ve been shoved a couple of times which I imagine would have escalated had I been bothered enough to retaliate. But the closest I ever got to physical violence with someone was when I was with a friend in Barcelona and someone tried to steal his watch. We gave chase and I managed to catch him first and tackle him to the ground. But my friend took care of the “reclaiming” process. So I don’t think that counts as a fight.
I have been in a lot of fights , many when I was in school to the point that my report card said that I started most of them . When my parents asked me why was I starting fights I replied that I didn’t start the fights , finished most of them but not all of them.
As an adult got into a few fights , and then some where a person was actually trying to kill me , or someone else. Intervened in a few situations where a boyfriend was beating up their girlfriend.
The last time I was in a fight was about twenty years ago when a cyclist attacked me , but he got the shock of his life when I fought back and hard , that he jumped back on his bike and took off. Meanwhile I was been held back by two blokes who afterwards said that they pulled me off him to stop me from killing him.
As for girls fighting, yes when they are younger some of them can really beat the living stew out of a boy.
However full grown women, I know personally of three women who could beat the living daylights out of most men . Now having said that, even these women, even though they are trained in combat martial arts they admit that if they came up against a man who is trained in unarmed combat that they would be lucky if they win.
One of them I would not win if I fought her as she actually trains the police in self defence, the other two I would but it wouldn’t be easy , they both told me that even though I am not trained in martial arts or self defence they knew that I could fight and take some punishment and I wouldn’t be easy to fight.
When it comes to fighting it’s not the size of the person in the fight, bigger is better, but it’s the size of the fight in the person that is fighting.
Particularly if you are fighting against multiple opponents ( not fun ) because when you are getting hit and kicked by several opponents at once you have got to be able to take the hits , because once they get you on the ground, it’s game over.
Rule of thumb, when being attacked by multiple opponents, don’t just stand in one spot and expect them to come at you one at a time like they do in the movies, it doesn’t work that way in real life.
Always keep moving and fighting until you can make a break for it.
Having said all that.
The best fight you can have, is the one that you don’t have.
Walking or running away from a fight if you don’t need to fight isn’t cowardice or wrong, but a very good thing do in order not to ruin your life or someone else’s because of your ego.
The only time to fight is if there’s no other option : ie : if you are attacked or someone else is being attacked and unable to defend themselves.
´For me it was in first class. The class bully, whom I saw pick on other class mates several times by then, was going after my best friend at that time, *on his birthday no less*. That was a bit too much for young me and I confronted him, only to get my face get slammed into a locker and that was the end of that.
It’s crazy with strength. I’m a gardener and carry bags of soil about, the off heavy bag leaves and waste. And a two women were on the train carry a big suitcase down a stairs, I asked to help and joined one of the women in carry it down to find out I could just carry it with one arm. I really don’t think there’s anything in it tho.
absolutely, a couple of punches or hair pulling is not a fight, Ive heard many people, women included, saying "Ive been in fights and won" and most of them never really been in a real fight. Ive been practicing martial arts for more than 20 years now and I even participated in international tournaments sometimes even representing my country, now a days Im older but I still travel on my holidays to meet with my martial arts friends from other countries, to find different instructors and strong opponents to spar with, I mean, I dont consider myself an expert but ive been around enough to consider MA as a career just as much as my professional career or job. having said that, Ive never been in a fight since I started taking martial arts seriously, somehow training in MA more than half my life gave me the conscious or maybe subconscious skill to stay out of trouble, so far, Ive been able to "feel" when something is wrong and to stay safe before things go down, maybe its just luck or maybe its thanks to more than 20 years of training, I dont know. I have an uncountable ammount of hours in combat or sparing sessions with literal thousands of opponents all around the world and with people of all ages and skill levels and maybe that experience can give a person enough calmness to keep your head clear and the ability to think straight when everyone else is getting nervous and taking bad choices, I guess thats why I dont get in fights or always manage to avoid dangerous situations or maybe the fact that I never take safety for granted, but that takes training too.
having said that, in my opinion there is no reason to fight unless it is for your life. I believe that you should do whatever to de-escalate situations calmly and in control or intimidating trough your posture and demeanor, generally the other person wouldnt want to fight you specially when you look confident like youve done this before so they start to think they may get hurt. if the situation dont de-escalate then its on, if the person dont care and still want to cause you trouble despite of his own safety or well being, if there is no other option, no way to escape or de-escalate if someone is still willing to risk his own life in order to hurt you if the situation is unavoidable ONLY THEN THERE IS A FIGHT. a fight is only worth it when its for your life or for the life of someone else, and in that case the only rule there is to win, everything goes. Im talking a situation like... I dont know, a shooting or a hijack or if someone comes at you with a weapon, something like that, a situation when there is win or die, thats a fight. everything else is just a fake fight, and for that is better to just go home. I fake fight almost every day at sparing or combat sessions with way stronger and more experienced opponents than some random dude in a bar who wants to fake-fight me, is just not worth it. but in a life threatening situation if you wait for the other person to hit first you are likely to loose, you cant just wait to see if the situation is dangerous or not, by the time you realize what is going on its already too late, you have to see everything 3 or 4 moves ahead like a chess player, and that takes training, if you can predict when a bad situation is comming you may as well not be there when it comes, thats better than to risk getting involved in a real fight.
Jumping a guy with Mono is such a cowardly move
In highschool, we used to walk to the park on our lunch and slap box. Sometimes someone would get a welt on their neck and would get in trouble for being out of dress code for “having a hickey.” What’s better is that we would admit to the teachers what we were doing so one of us wouldn’t get singled out, and they didn’t believe us
Was your battle with 5-10 boys what started you on the road to re-enactments?
Millhaven 3rd year in solitary, 10 days no food. I got my blocker up, guarding the door, naked and shaved, a clear garbage bag over my head to protect from pepper spray, and my food tray at port arms and 2 trashbags 1 water, one water and shampoo every walk, every hour. 2 am 3 of the Millhaven mafia (google that, or "warden hank neufeld") tried to come in (if it were legit, it would be 6, one with a selfie stick) he tried smashing down on my head. My food tray (heavy brown plastic) hit his thumb before that happened. I cocked back my food tray again and gave him a look that said "you best be leaving". Then he got that look - the one when people get when they realize they F'd up. He retreated yelling "close it, close it". I remembered a scene from "The Watchmen", so I banged on the door several times with this old so many layers of paint, some of gotta be lead knightstick. It didn't come from a weapons locker that have tamper seals on them. I then screamed as loud as I could "I'm not locked in here with you - you're locked in here with ME! So y'all can come back anytime, ya hear? They never tried again, I finally got my transfer, but they did treat me like I was more dangerous than the three serial killers that were on the bus with me.
Oh yeah. I kept it til 35 min before shift change. He came back begging for it. (Literally, not at my insistence). He gets fired and loses his pension if I keep it and show it to the 4 bar in the morning. But they are the Millhaven mafia it's about making as much money as they can. If I cost one a pension, they would kill me. For real, and not just by making sure they put the forty year old white guy on a range where every one else is black or latino and under 25 and hoping something pops off. He even admitted he had to take it back to his car. I told him 30 min, he was terrified it wasn't gonna be enough time. But, he got it back.
About the man vs woman fighting, Im pretty sure my ex will drop anybody that doesn't know her. Yes most man can knock her out if they go in in full, but they won't and they will not expect to get a perfect round house to the head, so that they will not ready to protect them self and its lights out no matter how hard they are. Yes she is not stronger than a average man but is extremely strong for a woman and exceptionally skilled and enjoys to hurt people. I have been in lot of fights, to include shooting ones, I lost consciousness 3 times once be hit by a 2 by 4, once by a brick hitting my helmet being to close to a building I blew up and by her after tauntig here to not hit me in the face because people have broken hands doing that, next thing I know I sit on the floor and my face is red😮 Woman that know how to fight and keep fit are not to be under estimated. I have met a guy who turned out to be a mop hitman that my beloved had put in a coma for a month for calling her a .... and that guy was scary I mean to me it was obvious that guy would kill me if I came down to a fight. And I wouldn't call myself defenseless by any stretch of the imagination but I don't look scary, I'm 1,90 and 75ish kg lean muscle, that guy makes me look like a hairy face child. 😂 But he was scared shitless by my girlfriend😂
I was subscribed to you for ages! But for some reason missed 6 months worth of videos. Bloody TH-cam! At least I’ve got a nice backlog to catch up on
Oooooh then you missed the controversial one...
@@stevenobrien557 controversial one? 👀
I know they are a lot of research but I do miss the Lindybeige history lecture , I will always click on when you produce anything as I love your style and I know the channel has to evolve plus you have to please the You Tube algorithm but yes I miss the lectures 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Nearly every fight is about dominance. Even wars go for dominance. Killing or hurting are rather means than purpose.
You're too picky on what's a real fight. Who won the dagger fight?
Nobody wins a knife (or dagger) fight!!!
classic lindy beige side-track.
that's why i subscribe
I don't know how I felt about that one.
I’ve noticed it always the kids that were bullied that are convinced that any man can beat any woman in a fight. I don’t know how things are in England, but here in the U.S. I’ve met plenty of girls who could throw down. I got in a lot of fights as a kid and what I can tell you about the “average man” is if you pick a man at random you’ll find someone who is afraid to fight and avoids it like the plague. Like I said, I was scrappy kid and I can tell you that most other boys I met didn’t even like to play fight, let alone fist fight
You don't need to be strong to win a fight. To be quick and know where to hit it's far helpful.
The last time I was in a fight was 1992. My little brother was high and he said things you shouldn't say to your mother so fists were thrown. I've had a special reputation in town that my sisters cultivated while I was away being a soldier, so when I moved back to my home town I was too considered too dangerous to get in a confrontation with. It wasn't a lie, I'm 6'2" and weights 220 as a younger man and I carried a fighting knife and handgun for decades. I still carry a knife and pistol when I leave the house.
What a stupid thing to brag about
The two closest times I ever had to being in a real fight:
1. Someone broke into my hotel room. It turns out he had never fully checked out, and the staff reassigned the room to me and he thought it was his room, and broke in to get his stuff.
2. At this time, my parents' house was occupied by me, my parents, and my little sister. At 5'8", I'm the tallest of the aforementioned people. I came home from work in the middle of the night one time to see the silhouette of a 6' man in the house. So I draw my gun and very slowly open the door. Before I get the door open all the way, I was able to tell that the man was my older brother who had apparently come by for the night, so I put my gun away and said nothing to him about it.
From someone who has been in real fights:
Agreed about schoolboy scuffles vs. the real thing. In the former there is a "winner," but in a serious fight between grown men, nobody wins.
About men and women: not at all a popular opinion, but entirely correct.
Never been in a fight. I've always managed to either stare people down with the crazy eye, be more physically intimidating, with a few years of KB. I'm also used to deflecting escalated aggression between others. Mostly, it's down to making smart choices about where I spend most of my time. My bro was almost killed, and a childhood friend got killed, so I guess there's luck in there too.
No adult who's right in the head gets into a fight while sober, and the ones who get into fights while drunk can't handle liquor and shouldn't be drinking.
Kid fightd are as you say about who backs out first. If a girl gets only a few hits in but just doesn't give up, she can easily win most kid fights
i sadly started a fight at school w a good hearted friend in the 8th grade and i cant find him to apologize which i dont think i ever did even though we were ok after that. i even built a german tank model at his house which i won 1st prize with at the local hobby shop contest.. he was 1 of he few friends i ever had who was never an ahole. i dont think he even really tried very hard to fight back.
I do not think death or injury as an objective is necessary for something to be a fight. I would say that a fight is any situation in which two (or more) parties having opposing and mutually exclusive objectives, and both parties come to the decision that use of violent force is necessary to achieve their objective/deny their opponent their own objective, and both parties act on that decision with enough competence for it to not be a one-sided exchange. So the schoolboy fight is a fight, since violence is used to achieve an objective, such as social status. Likewise, bombing exchanges between two countries at war, where drones are used to conduct precision strikes against carefully selected industrial targets to avoid loss of human life, and AA defenses are used to counter the unmanned drones, so that there is no loss of life or bodily harm involved in the exchange, is still a fight.
Hamnibal Crossed the Alps,
Lloyd crossed us over.
love the meme of hyperglphs as the end witht the funny brithis archetype saying your screen egos name
When I was thirty: a young man trying to steal my clothes from a hotel laundry. He hit first, I tackled him as I was going down, and I refused to let go. Lucky for me, we were about the same build, and he had no weapons. Police arrived and took him away. And when I was thirty-five: my then-girlfriends former boyfriend. We grappled, I managed to get his glasses, and he simply could not see. The girlfriend pretended to call 911, I gave him his glasses, and he split. The girlfriend and I broke up a month later and she went back to him. Last I heard they were happily married and living in Philadelphia :)
People take the piss out of Wing Chun , perhaps rightfully, but those sticky hands are amazingly useful. The intercepting fist, that footwork and that grounded versatile stance, it’s not total bullshit. That’s been my experience.
Most people who are trying to fight you don’t know how to fight and I’d lose to Connor McGregor anyway.
I love this series.
Being in a physical fight or angry dispute usually leaves one feeling embarrassed. Unless, perhaps, they fought off a robber or psycho or something.
I once had a mock fight turn briefly into a real fight. Then, once we realised how dramatically appropriate and satisfying the real fight was, it turned again into a mock fight. Afterwards we shook hands and acknowledged that that middle bit went off the rails.
Been there
Was your fight a fight, or an assault 🤔?
I'm 53, and i was going to say not since my 20's (at the side of my brother against a pair who tried to take our taxi, we were drunk of course) but then I recalled more recent fracas which were more brief, less physically damaging but more emotional in impact. Then I remembered I fought my son in law's dog a fortnight ago as it was attacking my daughter's cat. Very physical, some blood(mine), the cat did not survive, I was an emotional basket case for a week.
And here I was thinking my fighting days were over. Thanks for this opportunity to unload and unpack Lloyd.
Same, but 65 - a couple of months ago I was walking my small dogs on leash, and a bull terrier ran out and attacked the smaller of the two. I dropped both leases and wrestled the bull terrier to the ground and held on to it trying to (unsuccessfully) choke it, until the owner ran out and harnessed it. Physically I was ok, minor abrasions as it was on a paved surface, and a thumb with pulled tendons (unusable for a month, VERY inconvenient), but it took me a while to recover from the trauma of nearly seeing my dog die. It still has not recovered mentally and when I walk her, some days she will panic and pull like crazy to get back home.
My cats are my babies... I'd do anything for em... Very sorry for your loss.
@@EuTrabalhoParaSagres510 My cat is an arse
@@donottouch5421 😂
‘Built for the Stone Age’ type of video, nice. And your other video about why we go to war.
To my mind, a fight must be:
Between two parties of (reasonably justifiably) equal strength, (generally one on one; although two small groups is viable).
A physical altercation.
Undertaken with the malicious intent (on the part of at least one party) to cause injury, (blood injury is perhaps the minimum level).
There are a lot of words (and phrases) which are not entirely synonymous. Spar implies no malice, and more structure; beating-up implies a significant inequality between the parties, (as does ambush)…etc.
Is worth noting that in the early to mid teens, girls often grow more quickly than boys. So although the boys tend to catch up later; there is a window during which a girl is not unlikely to be larger and more physically imposing than many of their male peers.
This is still a no-win situation for the male, (especially as girls of that age tend to be more than willing to attack the groin); but it might present an opportunity for a girl to “win fights”; (although waiting for them after school suggests an inequality between the sides).
god you're so refreshing to listen to after being subjected to other complete wimps and the utter rubbish elsewhere.
Question 44: When are we getting the Hannibal graphic novel?
Never
If you don't know if you've been in a fight or not, you haven't been in a fight.
I certainly was in the right. That geezer was cruising for a bruising.
People fight over honour, reputation etc are all just variables of this.
A "fight" is when someone wants to do someone else serious harm.
I've been stabbed, shot, and attacked by a group, but I've never lost a "fight".
Proud of you 😂. Not ashamed to admit I've had my head kicked in and been knocked out a couple times... I knew I was gonna get hurt, but it was the right thing to do, so I did... The beer helped 😂
I suspect that Lloyd attended all-boys schools? He would never have been witness to a cafeteria fight between 2 girls; it takes some real goading to get a girl/woman to physically fight, but when they do, it's to the death. Perhaps that's why they usually pick a public place to do it (cafeteria) so that they are protected by others from actual death. Many a girl has gone to the emergency room with stabbings from forks, especially in the neck/face.
Yeah, when I was in my early teens it was the girls of the class who would get into vicious physical fights, never us boys. Of course it's random chance that in our class the boys happened to have a healthier group dynamic than the girls but I've seen the girls draw blood in the classroom. There was nothing cutesy of trivial about how they fought.
I think Lloyd led a more sheltered life if he thinks no actual fights happen between school boys or between males and females.
Teenage boys absolutely sometimes fight to the death, that's why there is a high level of serious injury and murder/manslaughter in that age group, it's worse it some parts of the world and in more deprived areas of course, but it absolutely happens. Same for serious fights between men and women and teenage girls and boys. There are many cases of such violence, you need only look at the news on a daily basis.
Just because these things didn't happen in Lloyd's private school, he can't convince of them.
The last time I was in a real fight was September 21, 2015. Sunday morning, around 9:50AM. I'd gone to speak privately to another member of my church to politely tell her that I was not at all pleased with the way she'd been bossing people around at a volunteer event the previous Sunday. Unfortunately, she turned out to be a narcissist who cannot handle criticism, and things rapidly deteriorated into a shouting match. After a few minutes of being screamed at, I realized that she was actually trying to provoke me into getting violent so she could play the victim later, and left the building to avoid giving in to the temptation to actually throw a punch.
Well it was a woman and inside of a church, so I hope you weren't even thinking about it!! 😅
I have been in very few fights in my life, interesting one of the last real fights I had was also when I was 13, when a 16 year old I had been in conflict with (verbal) decided to jump me from behind outside of school. He had me in a chokehold from behind and I was luckily able to get a solid elbow into his solar plexus, which left him winded. I then got on top of him and got a few good hits in before the bus driver put me in a hold and dragged me away. As i won that, wasn't the sort of guy to look for fights and had a big growth spurt not that long after I didn't have any other fights at school after that. The next one was probably when I was 18-19 and my 24 year old brother tried to punch me and I countered and floored him (we were both trained but I was just generally better, I wasn't allowed to spar with him because he couldn't accept losing to his younger brother). After that the closest I have come is getting in the way to get friends out of trouble, and I have never had to do more than doge, parry to get out of the way of a punch or push someone to split them up.
Yeah, it's all in the definitions. Never been in a fight where I feared for my life, just the kind of pissy little schoolkid things. Won some, lost some, more broken up by teachers before any sort of resolution.
Been ill a lot as an adult, so confident I'd lose any fight I got into now, which is why the bulk of the exercise I do is focused on cardio. To be fair, I have always figured "out in the wild", showing an opponent a clean pair of heels is always the safest option; you might not know until it's too late if they've got a knife, or friends hanging back, so your best bet is to open the distance fast and keep going.
Yeah, I believe they mean a fight, where you are trying to knock someone silly and they are doing the same. Nobody has to die or go to prison. More brutal than a schoolyard fight, because a lot more power is involved, but not homicidal. Most adults don't fight much if ever, but when they do, a LOT of the time ALCOHOL: was involved and the fights are typically very sloppy. After alcohol induced fights, I'd say road rage would be the #2 reason people fight, but often those are very quick and hardly ever lead to anyone getting much more than their pride hurt.
Never been in a real fight? You don't know what kind of man you are until you fight. The first time i folded a kid with a right to the jaw i was six, kid kept kicking me in a soccer game lol. My last fight I actually lost but it was for a championship belt in mixed martial arts. Out in society though I see 10,000 people back down for every one fight. The thought of someone making a victim of me would haunt me in my private moments. The loser of a fight sleeps more soundly than a coward.
This huge difference between cultures always baffles me ...
Backing away from a fight is called being a grown up where I live, because violence is the monopoly of the state.
You are brilliant
Lloyd is wrong. At the age of 6-12 years, girls are quite capable of beating boys. Also, girls usually start puberty earlier. As a result, there may be a window of opportunity for some girls. Also, when it comes to older people, the differences also decrease.
Also, for example, when I was at school, we had girls under 190 cm tall and weighing 80-90 kg, with an athletic build, fully formed at the age of 14. And in my class there was a boy who was 160 cm and weighed 45 kg. Hmm, I wonder who would beat whom? I'm from Russia and went to school in the 90s. A girl who could break a jaw with a well-placed blow was not such a rarity.
You sound like you do not grasp the expressions "on average" and "in a population". Read scientific papers about subjects you already have some interest/superficial knowledge about and at the same time have a text book about statistics beside you, to clearify expressions you encounter.
@@impalaSS65 A similar situation occurred in half of the classes. The mixed ethnic composition of schoolchildren and, in general, people in the region, provides a very diverse sample.
I know what an average is and what statistics are. About age, the onset of puberty, of course, you ignored my statement.
When you talk about the average population, these data are very different from country to country, from city to city. I live in the Far East of Russia. People from all over the world are gathered here. That is why the phenotype on average in the population is very diverse.
But of course, tell me about where I live, what and who surrounds me. It is naive to compare a non-existent average man with a non-existent average woman. If you take a random sample of 100 men of similar age and 100 women, there are quite a few larger women here in our region. There is simply a wide variety of phenotypes and not a homogeneous population here.
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@@_B_B_B A fight in prepubertal ages is irrelevant in the case Lindybeige refer to. You still have to factor in the cultural importance of not hitting girls/nothing to gain for a boy.
You are still on the individual level in your references; unless you live in a comic book after a nuclear catastrophy with fantastic mutants (few does).
You should heed advice, rather than talking ignorance. Good luck.
Never fight an Aussie bird
Cassowary?
@@wes4192or emu...
That chick Amy from Amy and the Sniffers comes to mind... Yeah she's most definitely not big, but I guarantee she's knocked down more than one pushy dude 😂
leave it to a brit to take a simple question and turn it into 10 questions, which also have 10 questions attached.
That would depend on the Brit. How about a soccer hooligan?
'Last Friday during the soccer game that is when. Dint lose, fell down drunk'.
Never been there, but that is how I imagine it. Toss in an heavy accent.
Could be a great politician.
@@EthelredHardrede-nz8yvYour name is funny, because its two enemy king's names spelt incorrectly 🤣. I assume you knew that, and I like it🤣
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Nice that you like it but no. Pretty sure that Ethelred died before Harald Hardrede was born. There is no correct spelling for either. Just like any other word for that time period. Modern Brits cannot even pronounce Mafia correctly so why would they get old Saxon or Norwegian right?
Hon. Nyrum Reynolds
I will say, that a man must be a d-d fool, who can’t spell a word more than one way.
Often falsely attributed to Mark Twain.
Like a LOT of spelling in English. Some idiot decided that there was a CORRECT spelling, in both England and America, only different people, and then idiot teachers insisted that obsolete spelling MUST BE THE ONLY WAY TO SPELL. And students were terrorized into thinking that was correct, as if we where French.
No Cross of dictionaries
No Crown of English pedants
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Spel the way its pronounsd
Ethelred Hardrede
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@@EuTrabalhoParaSagres510
Nice that you like it but no. Pretty sure that Ethelred died before Harald Hardrede was born. There is no correct spelling for either. Just like any other word for that time period. Modern Brits cannot even pronounce Mafia correctly so why would they get old Saxon or Norwegian right?
The last time I was in a fight I was circled by terrible ninjas. The belief is that I was the victim of a gang initiation. I found out I’m not Bruce Lee. I was not the victor of that altercation.
I think one thing us men forget is the amount of pent up rage a lot of women have which I think would be something they'd be able to utilise in a fight
I sounds strange to me that this kind of bully fighting sounds so common. Atleast I didnt see much of it growing up
Not sure. Someone in my school got a broken nose in a fight. I suppose in hindsight it wasn’t really that bad of a fight, just happened to have his face in the wrong place at the wrong time. Was only the first blow, and I guess a broken nose isn’t that bad all things considered.
I was the last person Lindy had a physical fight with. I bumped into him in Sainsburys. He was at the check out till and he was trying to walk out without paying. The staff kept saying 'Sir, sir, you have to pay for those' and he was just ignoring her and repeating 'you have to pay for those' in a sarcastic voice.
As he went to walk out of the door doing monkey motions and gestures and, being a big fan, I asked him for a picture.
He just stopped, turned to me and made more monkey noises in my face.
I was really embarrassed and didn't know what to do, so I asked him for a picture again and then he kicked me hard in the groin then proceeded to laugh like a maniac and run away as I crumpled to the floor.
Actually I was the last person he had a physical fight with. It was right after what you described, I stopped him and told him that he was really rude and should wait for the police now. He grabbed a Brown Bess and shot me in the face, killing me instantly. Tbh I was rather annoyed with him after that.
I see he follows the Tomar way of dealing with fans