Console Fanboys DENY That Red Dead Redemption 2 is Only 30fps on the PS5
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Buying a PS5 Pro to play Bloodborne at 30 FPS is completely insane.
what is insane is that someone made a patch for it so it could run at 60 and they were hit with a cease and desist.
@benfubbs2432 They didn’t update the game to run at 60 FPS so they could have an excuse to sell a remastered version in the future. The same thing applies to Red Dead 2.
Weren’t the ponies the ones that were saying they couldn’t tell the difference between 30 and 60fps?
Yes they were
30 is "more cinematic," remember? 😂
Yeah, they sure can't see the difference between 30 and 60 fps since they are calling a 30fps experience a 60fps
I believe that’s correct ~ if you’re playing on a tv with 30hzrr.
For my tv I use native 1440p 120 and it’s perceptible to tell 60fps from even 70fps.
Playstation fucking sucks
60fps should be the minimum. I remember Devil May Cry 4 back in the day being 60fps. I can't believe 30fps is still a thing.
60FPS was a standard sine NES, but since 3D era started this changes, and soap machines of 7th generation (also infamous for piss-filter games) is when "cimematic 30FPS" became a thing...
@@evilbabai7083 tbh 5th gen consoles were more like 15 fps. 6th gen had a huge library of 60 fps games but also a lot of 30 fps titles and quite a few even less than 30 fps games (like GTA)
30 fps is definitely acceptable for single player games that are slow paced
@@evilbabai7083 well there were times in classic gaming where lower fps rates were used
but yes in general 60 fps was a standard, even Ys I & II for PC-88 were designed for 60FPS
@@evilbabai7083 GODDAMN PONG RAN AT 60 FPS. Meanwhile look at RDR2 on PS5 running at 30 over 45 years later...
A type of cope - "It runs at a smooth 30 fps"
Or my favorite was during the first few years of the Xbox one and ps4 where people bragged about games being locked at 30 on Xbox one and ps4 having some games at "60" that would sometimes dip to below 30. In that case I would say I preferred the constant locked 30 but would get shit because apparently a highly unstable 60 is better than locked 30. The tomb raider reboot was the first major title I remember that being a thing for, at least at launch
This type of compium is for slowpoke stutterbugs. Yet another **tired take from a Sony Donkey.
If oxymoron was a statement
That's an extreme amount of denial. They're now saying it's not 30 fps. That's funny.
The people claiming there's no difference between 30fps and 60fps need to play Borderlands 2 on Xbox 360 or PS3 and then play the remastered version on Xbox One or PS4. The difference is very noticeable. That was one of the first games I really noticed how much better 60fps is compared to 30fps, because I played A LOT of both versions.
Most of those miserable delusional people own a 120 Hz smartphone and still defend 30 and/or 60.
I have been gaming at 100+ in the past 7 years or so. My rig isn't even high-end. I got a 3060 Ti and a Ryzen 5800X. The difference is, I game on 1080p 144hz. Resolution doesn't mean crap. Why would I want 4K 60 FPS when I can easily have 1080p or 2K at 144+ FPS?
If shortsightedness was a crime, these people would get unsubbed from life.
Same but in my case it was going from playing the original Borderlands on PS3 to play Borderlands: GOTY edition on my Series X. It looked and felt so much better, compared to the PS3 version.
I absolutely despise people who say “I CaNt NoTicE a DiFferEnCe bEtweEn 30 anD 60fps!!”
Quite baffling that some of these people do not even notice the difference between 30fps and 60fps.
Very Baffling!.
I have a feeling they do notice the difference but they mistake it for different default aim sensitivity settings.
They turn motion blur to high and sensitivity to low and pretend everything is perfecf
If consoles had higher frame rates than pc you know the tune would change for them 😂
The problem with a 30fps game is when they don't stay at 30fps. Any drop from 30fps can really be felt if it drops into the low 20's. A 60fps game has more leeway if it drops frames.
Yeah a dip from 60 to 57is a lot less noticable than a dip to 27 from 30
No. The problem with a 30 fps game is that it's running at 30 fps. End of story. A 60 fps game dropping is just as noticeable as a 30 fps dropping. Stop with the nonsense.
@@Entreped That is literally wrong. The more fps you have, the lower the frametime dips every fps lost.
How are we still on 30 to 60 fps, we actually didn’t get any meaningful improvements this generation
It’s crazy consoles are still talking about 30fps and 60fps, meanwhile me and my 240hz monitor playing the frame of the gods.
144?
@ anywhere from 120hz to 240hz, depending on the game and settings I’ve got on. 👌
@@HyperDelirious144 personally I'm satisfied with 60fps but whenever I can reach 144fps I get euphoric 'cause it really is that good.
My general rule of thumb is that any base PS4 game that targets 60 fps 1080p I can stay at my refresh rate easily using the console's graphical options... unless the port is trash
Playing Doom at 165fps was an absolutely insane experience.
@ That’s what IM sayin! A magical experience! Once you experience that, your hooked 🔥
This generation isn't a scam. It's more about how lazy the devs have gotten with proper optimization and wanted their game to the best gRaPhIcS
Some want the best graphics but that doesn't mean others haven't gotten lazy with optimization. That also doesn't mean the ones shooting for best graphics aren't lazy with optimization either. And yes, this generation was a major scam. We have only just recently started getting games that are PS5 only. The fact that it took this long into the consoles life cycle to stop making games for the PS4 is insane. On top of that we have gotten barely any truly console defining games. Out of the ones we have gotten, only a handful of those have been released content complete and optimized.
Modding Minecraft is what pushed me over, playing at 120 fps is what keeps me here xD.
REAL, my excuse for getting a pc was fps and horror games, but it was absolutely majority modded minecraft
People still defending 30 fps in 2025 is wild. So much for that ps5 pro lmao.
I went to pc because of 30fps. the way consoles have some games at 30 and some at 60 became too noticeable to me and started hurting my head. one min I'm gaming at 60 then the next I'm trying to get my brain use to 30 again
Games from 10-15 years ago still run at 30fps on modern consoles, even though they can 100% blast through it. I switched to PC because of this
yeah a lot of koei tecmo ports are bad and used to do 30fps cutscenes
it always looks like dogshit i cant even get a real sense of their movement in the 3d space
I remember playing xbox 360 at a friend's house and prefering to play cod over gta 5 just because of the better framerate
I've dabbled in PC gaming since the mid 90s, but didn't fully embrace it until 2003 when the original Call of Duty launched. I wasn't really ever paying attention to frame rates up till that point, but the first time I fired up Call of Duty, The graphics (for the time) were excellent, however, I couldn't understand exactly why I was so blown away. It's because up until that point, I had always been handicapped with 30fps on the likes of the PS1, PS2, N64, etc... (Even though there were 60fps games on those consoles, it wasn't the norm). Once I went to PC, almost everything was 60fps or could be tweaked to get there. After going 60fps, it's just really hard to go back. And to expand even further, I've since gone to a 120hz display and have most of my games hitting 120fps or higher, and now it's really hard to go back to 60fps. However, 60 is totally fine and looks great. But, going to 30... Yuck!!
Console fanboys will be console fanboys
I’ve got my fingers crossed praying every day gta 6 will have a 60fps mode because I can’t wait a extra year for the pc version
No console will be able to run it at 60 fps. The gta games have always run like shit until they get re-release. We can hope but I doubt it
I play games at 90-120 fps... I hit dodge and I dodge shit every time...
I play at 30 fps.... I hit dodge and half the time I'm still getting hit
This is actually why I am unbothered by framerates.
I have played Dante Must Die Mode on DMC4 and DMC5 and cleared both of them, with every character, at 30fps, 40fps, 60fps, and 120fps. Each game. And there was no difference in my performance.
I know math, though. Objectively, or mathematically at least, 40fps is better than 30fps, 60fps is better than 30fps and 40fps, and 120fps is better than 30fps, 40fps, and 60fps. But practically?
At least in my hands, the framerate doesn't matter at all because it doesn't impact my performance. Either consciously or subconsciously, I can adapt to the input latency of each framerate that none of them negatively or positively impacts me. 🤷🏾♂️
Mathematically, I understand why people prefer 60fps and up. Practically, I understand why people either don't care either way or will outright prefer 30fps when that means that they can play at 4K.
It's aokay to switch from Xbox to pc. But switching from PS5 to pc is considered a crime against humanity. Don't you love this double standard?
Most PC gamers (myself included) are on Windows which like Xbox belongs to Microsoft so it's still kinda like simply a different product from the same brand, but Playstation belongs to Sony.
So switching from Sony to MS in any way is straight up betrayal in the eyes of Sony fanboys, 'cause obviously Sony is number 1 & everyone who agreed in the past has to agree in the present and the future
@@Nate_M_PCMR i use linux, lol
@tchomsdaguy that's why I said most
Ghost of tsushima on my pc for some reason reverted to 24fps just today. How slow the responsinveness was in the menu alone was insane.
I just can't wrap my head around defending 30 FPS cap in the year of The Lord that is 2025.
As a matter of fact, we're 5 years deep where that has become indefensible.
Question the sanity of anyone who bought an XBOX Series, and even more a PS5, and tells you it's peak gaming.
Didn't Ubisoft get made fun of like over a decade ago for saying that 30fps was better because it was more cinematic?
Yes, they spewed that garbage to try to "justify" Unity being a technical trashcan.
I honestly don't mind 30fps as long as it runs consistently.
However, 60fps should be the standard for future games going forward.
It sucks they won't bother properly optimize their games.
On the PS5 I'm completely fine with playing games at 30fps but if there's an option to make it 60 I will never go to 30 FPS.
bUt ThE hUmAn EyE cAnT sEe MoRe ThAn 30 FpS. Console fanboys coping harder than ever. I play it maxed out around 110 fps. FPS was exactly the reason I left consoles, 30 fps is fucking ridiculous in current year.
Why did they choose a game with some of the highest input lag I’ve experienced in a game to defend??
"It runs great on my PS4"🤣Bro leave the room💀
I'm not surprised, because i saw a lot of console fanboys who believe consoles run at 4K 120 fps in every game
"It's cinematic" and "there's no difference between 30 and 60" are hilarious copes. Interestingly, there were some 60fps games on the 5th gen consoles, it was only on the 6th/7th gen that 30 was standard.
The "how much did your PC cost" attempt at a gotcha moment is really fucking weird. Like, do they think we have to buy/build a new PC for each and every game that we want to play?
I swear ponies gotta be so hypocritical about everything.
I used to not think 30 was fine when I was younger and on console. There where so many games I could not progress on due to the input lag and not seeing where i was hit from, but then when I got some of these games on PC and playing at 60 and above i had no issues.
If they thought it would run smoothly at 30 frames a second, there are Slowpoke stutter bugs. I guessed who the stutter bugs were. Sony donkeys, who else?
For some reason youtube makes "slowpoke" a searchable word. If you click it, it shows you videos for the Pokémon of the same name and Slowpoke Rodriguez, Speedy Gonzales' cousin. 😂
Been playing red dead at 60-80fps and goddamn the game is beautiful
rdr 1 on pc at 60fps is like playing another game
It doesn't matter how powerful a console is, if that game isn't optimized for that console it will run like shit, most console games could have been 60fps but game companies just don't optimize their games for that
Because they are obsessed with graphics and don't know people care about framerates.
I am sure rockstar would fool these console players again by gta 6 running at 30 fps and charging them 100 dollars as well 😂
It's gonna run 120fps
@@ZBC2003
No bro it will run at 1000 fps at 100p resolution. The power of ps5 Pro 😂
@Aryan-y2o3x Nope, it's gonna be full 4k no upscale, and full 120fps no drops. Pro power
@@ZBC2003let’s see if it runs at 60 first
@hauntingphantom14 It's gonna be 120fps dummy, it's been proven that PS5 Pro is very powerful.
5:53 I have absolutely garbage eyesight and I can still tell the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps
if you haven't built a pc yet, do so. if your argument is that its expensive, get a job. 60 fps will always rein supreme and it makes zero sense why you'd pay for a 500 dollar console and not get what was specifically marketed. If you're somehow defending this: enjoy 30 fps dork.
I have a 1080 and on medium settings, its still looking gorgeous 90% of the time with 60 Frames 100% of the time
In the mid 2010's I decided to build my own PC after dealing with a constantly on the fritz Xbox 360 disk drive (and had a gaming laptop that up and died at the time so, no real alternatives). Even with a mish mashed rig, the difference between my Xbox copy of GTA V and PC version was like night and day; even on middling settings.
How these rubes can't see the difference between 30 (or sub 30)FPS and 60 is beyond me. It's 2025, and we still have people saying, "30FPS is fine". FFS, standards change.
Console player here until I have the funds for a pc. 30 fps sucks once you get used to 60 or higher. Playing gears 5 on my friends pc did it.
lol they don't even know what fps their games are playing at, its pathetic
Some may think a lot of those posts are trolls, but I genuinely believe they think it is running at 60. Remember you even have PC users who go out and buy a high refresh rate monitor, and don't realize it is stuck on the 60hz mode, but they can see a big difference when gaming.
Is this some kind of evolutionary thing that happens when a species evolves? You know, like not all the fish crawled out of the water.
Red dead redemption 2 was the main reason why I switched to pc
I still remember when I went back and played Shadow of the Colossus after playing on Pc for a while I could feel the difference. And the 30fps was a little painful.
legit there is no reason arguing with console players. they are cavemen. only reason i have a ps5 on the side is because of GTA 6. wont even touch it before it drops lmao
Consoles are the cheapest, bare minimum entry point into gaming so I don't know why anyone cries when someone points out that they are getting the cheapest, bare minimum experience playing on consoles.
The Diffrence in 30fps and 60fps i first notice on Minecraft actually
I Only knew the 30fps xbox version and could never run MC on PC at 60fps but when YOutube enable the option for 60fps videos i saw MC run in 60 fps and it blew my fucking my mind on how fricking smooth the game was
SO yes if you dont notice the diffrence in 30fps and 60fps pls go to a doctor
Edit: Kinda Sad you didnt mention the guy who was 100% sure the game runs on 60fps on console and posted a ''prove'' video where he had some TV Smoothing enable that also gave him a 2 second input delay
I initially played Assassin's Creed Syndicate on XB1 and I quit after about 5 hours because the framerate was atrocious and load times took way too long.
Later bought on PC and it was a way better experience. 60 FPS and loading was taking seconds instead of about 2 minutes!
anyone saying you can’t tell the difference between 30 and 60 should never play games
Funnies part about RDR2 being locked at 30fps on PS5 for me is that I remember seing a lot of comments before PS5 release about how "PS5 will run this game at 120fps, thank's for betatesting PC players" under some post about how game have some bugs on PC with high framerate. So... yeah.
Higher frames will always be better even an original Xbox game running in backwards compatibility gets a frame boost and makes playing it on original hardware pointless. It is lazy to devs to not atleast have 60 frames when games from the 6th gen we’re running 60 frames locked mainly on the GameCube of all consoles these people don’t play video games they just like to complain about them sure not all games need high frames but to say it’s not necessary is total bullshit
I really dont know why RDR2 hasn't had a PS5 update yet. Its mental, same thing for Bloodborne as well.
My old laptop from 2017 with low end graphic card (GTX 1050 Ti) can run Red Dead Redemption 2 on 40+ fps,30 fps should be illegal with how good this game is optimized, and as someone who only got a good PC recently and used to play games below 60fps i can say that even 60 is lacking now i can run games on 120+fps, you can 1000% spot a difference and 120 should be the standard
RD2 is still at 30fps on consoles for a reason. They don't want GTA 6 running at 30 while RD2 runs at 60, looking better than gta 6 based on just the fps cap.
According to a google search Red Dead Redemption 2 does run at 60fps on PS5.
What a perfect time to make a quick video about how PS services are down
ths sad thing is the ps5 does have the power to run the game at 60 fps its just capped at 30 for no reason
The red dead dude is me too. I bought red dead 2 last week for this reason. We were waiting for a patch and The still haven’t updated it. I seen how another amazing developer handled blood borne and realized we not getting this
If ponies think 30fps is so good then they should go play the PS3 version of Demons Souls and Dark Souls.
It can absolutely get a patch to run at 60 frames. But Rockstar ain't doing it for free. Are you crazy? 😂
This whole situation sounds suspiciously like American politics. Crazy the parallels.
The reason console do 30fps games is cuz the want to show off the best graphics possible, it’s way easier to run 30fps than 60fps
Hey now! Loads in the face are an American tradition!
I would argue framerate is a refresh rate of the game.
It's literally one game out of a handful that are capped at 30fps and it came out last gen. You should be blaming Rockstar for not optimising it, not the platforms because if it was up to the platforms they would have done it by now. Rockstar makes these dumb*ss decisions and they seem to get a pass for it.
yes rdr 2 can run at 60fps on the playstation if you mod it and I love how these same folks say oh there is no difference between 30 and 60fps then turn around say oh I cannot wait to play this game on my ps5 pro at 120fps
I genuinely don't get why this type of thing is still happening, 60fps is just better, i started playing rdr2 recently on ps5 and it was the first thing I noticed when playing
I'm assuming it's for console gamers like me that love playing video games but don't consider themselves gamers per se.
Pure peasantry.
Whats next? Harman Smith denying that the some Switch games run at 20 FPS on the Switch? 🤣
He's saving that video idea for after he gets his hands on the Switch 2.
"Movies run at 24fps, so the switch 2 running games at 27fps is actually a good thing that makes them more cinematic, unlike those unrealistic games running at 60.." 😂
“There’s no difference, no difference at all, between The Witcher 3 on Switch and The Witcher 3 on PC with maxed out settings”
Harman was either lying or his eyes need checked, which honestly wouldn’t surprise me considering how squinty he is
Water is not wet.
If they want cinematic then they should be running 24fps.
My only issue is people who say I can't play 30fps anymore. If that is true, then you better not be playing old classic games then. If you do, you're a massive hypocrite and need to stfu
I love 30 fps that makes me suffer and vomit when I play my video game. asura's wrath, a game that's 80% cutscenes and 20% gameplay played at 60 fps on the original ps3 and Xbox 360. It's always defended when it comes to snoy. Remember goth ham knights? People lost their shit when the devs stated it'll be 30 fps. But when snoy does it, it's fine?
Im a ps5 player but this video has a point and is right. However, we cant deny that if you want to play at 4k you need a beast of a PC. Thats only gonna cost you over $3k. No I will not pay money to just play at 1440p. If I wanted to play at 1440p I'd go back to the ps4 pro. It all has to do with the price and cost.
Being a PC and Console gamer my entire life, 60 is nicer. It feels more fluid and speedy. But also if something is a *stable* 30 (IE: rarely or never dips below that like RDR2 does) then I don't care as long as its like, not a fast paced game.
Saying there is NO difference, though, is just silly. Switching from Quality to Performance on any game will prove that wrong.
PlayStation user since the PS2. This fucking FPS cap has made me so livid, I love RDR2 and playing an ugly checkerboard upscale capped at 30 is my breaking point for the PS5.
But, this is R*’s issue, not the consoles. The Series X is also capped at 30. Point the pitchforks at R*. I’m not an expert programmer, I don’t know if Microsoft/Sony could so something on their end, or if it’s entirely R*’s fuckheaded asses to patch it.
Been playing ninja gaiden 2 black on my ps5 and the fact 30fps is an option is madness for a game like ninja gaiden like yes I would love to play it worse and slow and die because it's slow
All you people complaining about "Oh you need 60FPS Minimum for games" or "60fps should be the standard" are the same dudes going to be sucking complete Hopium when GTA 6 comes out as only 30 FPS. Better get used to it buddy 😂
Is this a reupload, I swear I watched this last night 😂
PS player here, i literally wont buy it because its 30 fps lmao
Does your capture card cut your framerate? That ninja gaiden gameplay was rough
There's really no excuse for 30 (unless the system just can't handle it), especially on a game like RDR2. My Steam Deck and Ally X can hit 60 in that game and they're much weaker.
5:58 I disagree with this completely as someone who is less sensitive to motion and latency. We all experience things differently. For me, my cut off for noticing any improvement in refresh rate and fps is somewhere between 60-90fps and I am not bothered by low fps until it dips below 30fps. Can I pixel peep to try and feel the extra smoothness? Sure. Do I notice it in casual or daily use. Not really. I can move from a fancy high refresh rate display to a cheap $60 LCD and not feel any downgrade other than the obvious cheaper panel.
Its both a blessing and a curse when it comes to gaming. On the one hand I dont need to upgrade my GPU very often as I am quite tolerant to lower and fluctuating frames. On the other hand, I feel like I am missing out and am not truly experiencing the full advantage of my 4k 240hz OLED and 5080. A high fps is just peace of mind.
Is this valid?
My 1080 can handle this game just fine.
I thought they said ps5 is as strong as, what, 4090?😂
The ps5 pro is stronger than the 6090, and it's not even out yet! All thanks to how Sony our even more magic into the pro's ssd. 😂
Why play in 60 when you can play in 180
If someone stances like this they're a lost cause. They're not even a gamer. Gamers can see the difference. This is a Democrat tier lie.. easy to dissprove but lie anyway.
30fps is fine if it has good frame pacing and its a slower paced game but a last gen game has no reason to be locked at 30fps on consoles
At the very least let players unlock the framerate
Normalize consoles having graphics settings
Even my smartphone...😂
Repost?
I think so. didnt we already watch this like yesterday?
@@ghkevilhd44 yesterday or the day before, yeah
Yep. Remember seeing this before. Must be someone demanded to be cut out of the vid.
@richhall3970 That's just sad
Defending 60 is getting outdated, lads. 60 is the new 30, and 30 is the new 15. I have been gaming at 144 FPS solid on a lot of games and regularly game at 100+ FPS.
In fact, if a game has capped FPS that isn't in the triple digits, I straight up don't buy it.
144? That's it? I play all games in 69k at 420fps on my ps5, thanks to the magical ssd. 😂
@@TheJohhnyE lmao good one
just wait until GTA6 comes out LOL
25-30 fps tops on console
No, its gonna be 120fps on the mighty PS5 PRO.
@@ZBC2003 120fps 😂 nope
@ronniecantiga5629 Yes idiots, the PS5 Pro is more powerful than y'all dummies think.
@ LOL...sure it is. Sure it is.
@00ABBITT00 I know it is, my friend and I are tech heads, and we test this stuff all the time.
The only acceptable reason to accept 30 fps is if the games broken if you raise it beyond 30 fps. Way of the Samurai 3 on PC unfortunately is like that. Really good game, Old as hell, Originally a 360 game, busted if the fps goes over 30. The animations break. You can raise it to 40 though. Not as bad but still dumb. 60 fps should be the standard in 2025.
After PSN was down for as long as it was. PC olauers would not be able to play the games they bought, and PlayStation players still think its an okay idea to talk down on PC for not wanting a PSN for single player games and Online multiplayer games.
Why don't they just turn on Framegen?
Was the first game I played when I got my pc! IT BLEW MY MIND!!!! It was amazing on pc