Kozilek vs Prosper vs Korvold vs Jetmir | CEDH Gameplay

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  • @mikemoyer8162
    @mikemoyer8162 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I gotta say: counterbalance with top-of-library tutors might be the greatest and most evil thing I've seen in a while. I love it.

  • @dequan426
    @dequan426 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    For all those wondering about the stickers:
    It’s my coding system for my cedh cube. I can switch decks in between games. And it saves me money, so I don’t have to keep buying cards. My playgroup has since adapted the idea. I guess I’m pretty influential lol.

    • @SaltServingServo
      @SaltServingServo ปีที่แล้ว

      Im interested on that, o how many cards you have total on the said cube?

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SaltServingServo I actually have 3 individual cubes.
      Cube 1- 320 cards
      Cube 2 - 240 cards
      Cube 3 - 300 cards
      24 decks total.

    • @ShadowWasntHere8433
      @ShadowWasntHere8433 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why not just get proxies from MPC or something similar - Yea it'll cost a few extra $$ but it saves a lot of time in the end

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShadowWasntHere8433 Because I also sell cards on Facebook, and I prefer things that have resell ability.

    • @kristiansy9407
      @kristiansy9407 ปีที่แล้ว

      are the stickers really thin? won't they damage the cards overtime when pressed against each other when stored? kinda wanna adapt this strategy

  • @edac_plays6259
    @edac_plays6259 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The bag shown I’ve used for 2ish years now and it’s been awesome. No rips tears or issues.
    The smaller pouch in the front also can fit the ultimate guard 4-pocket binder. The two pockets on either side can fit a monster playmat tube and hold them securely.

  • @DolphinDingus
    @DolphinDingus ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Kozilek AND Aminatou? I feel spoiled!
    Also feel like Ouphe was the mvc in that first game.

  • @dequan426
    @dequan426 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    If y’all wouldn’t mind, analyze the 2nd game for me. I feel like I could have won, what could I have done differently?

    • @DefCatofficial
      @DefCatofficial ปีที่แล้ว +25

      recast docside before you killed Kev via reanimate then tutored another way to flicker dock side or draw cards

    • @bryantan4228
      @bryantan4228 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Could you have just not killed Kevin and just held Aetherflux as a sword hanging over everyone’s head? If you are really worried you can kill Kevin on Jay’s end step, though most of Kevin’s interaction doesn’t work on colorless things

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@DefCatofficial I had to get around that grafdiggers cage, I couldn’t reanimate dockside. I think I should have cast Aminatou, and flickered dockside.

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bryantan4228 I did think about that. I don’t Remeber exactly why, but I’m sure it had something to do with Kevin recasting Kozilek, drawing the cards and being able to counter stuff. Kozilek is a HUGE threat and Kevin is a great player. But I could have just been being too cautious.

    • @DefCatofficial
      @DefCatofficial ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bryantan4228 ohhhhh right, damn

  • @Kozi15
    @Kozi15 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Wow is this Turbo Kozilek getting the recognition? 👌

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      We were all terrified by Kozilek haha.

    • @Kevin_EndStepMTG
      @Kevin_EndStepMTG ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dequan426 You were the MVP on the counterbalance triggers with the back to back tutors 🤣

    • @Murkglow
      @Murkglow ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually you use the original Kozilek though for the Annihilator 4.

    • @Kevin_EndStepMTG
      @Kevin_EndStepMTG ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Murkglow The point is the draw and counter. The annihilator trigger isn't really a CEDH mechanic in a 4 player game.

    • @Murkglow
      @Murkglow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kevin_EndStepMTG Eh, this is not a new deck. It was heavily played and built back in the day (like a decade ago, so admittedly not in a modern cedh meta). Original Kozilek vs Kozilek 2.0 was heavily tested and debated. The draw usually ends up very similar between the two and the counter is usually weaker than Annihilator from everything I've seen and read regarding the deck. By all means though, I would be happy to hear why the counter ability makes the difference in a deck that needs all the cards it can get to be cheap mana rocks to play out its commander repeatedly. If anything, the Annihilator 4 seemed to me the only reason the deck ever worked to begin with.
      Just taking this one set of games, the counter did nothing meaningful (protected Semblance Anvil which was not a meaningful or useful card to begin with) while Annihilator would have stopped Prosper from winning (killing all his permanents). Might not have got them the win in the end (depending on if Aminatou could win on their turn) but it certainly would have given the Kozilek player more chance to win. Of course this is a laughably small set of data to draw conclusions from. That said, sac four seems plenty meaningful in most situations.

  • @StackedEDH
    @StackedEDH ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Kozilek was the first Commander deck I built from scratch. We love to see it!

  • @pandogrover4120
    @pandogrover4120 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Loved to see a Kozilek deck on a CEDH game ❤

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Man that collector oophe really shut down kozilek!
    Great finish on that second game!

  • @dead_night2293
    @dead_night2293 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have that bag and I absolutely love it, it works perfectly for anyone who needs a bag for lots of decks, it holds the clear cubes as well as large deck boxes. I love that bag and i recommend it to anyone who needs a bag

  • @fosterdawson7339
    @fosterdawson7339 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    DeQuan doing some work in game 2

  • @dtnuh
    @dtnuh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We love to see these non-typical games, GGs!

  • @galahadtg7884
    @galahadtg7884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely LOVE seeing wildcard brews like that! Hopefully one day i get to challange you guys with my Zaxara turbo ad naus list

  • @Death_by_Tech
    @Death_by_Tech ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t believe how many times I thought game 1 was already over but it kept going

  • @jerryblack7945
    @jerryblack7945 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW! IMPRESSIVE DECKS AND STRATEGIES!

  • @DefCatofficial
    @DefCatofficial ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Kevin's Decks are always awesome and stunning, those signitures are great

    • @Nachtjagerz
      @Nachtjagerz ปีที่แล้ว

      He literrally did noyhing during did nothing during 90% of the first game lmao

  • @MexiPerplexi
    @MexiPerplexi ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know it'll probably be a lot of extra work with video making, but is there any way you guys could add a tracker for the number of cards in each player's hands? I often find myself wondering how much people are holding.

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +19

      We did that a long time ago. It added HOURS of extra work to every game for a very small gain. We had to chop something to keep the turnaround times reasonable, and the hand size tracker was the thing that ended up having to go.

  • @windy7820
    @windy7820 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ll never complain about Aetherflux killing the whole table. Love that card, even if it’s considered dead and bad nowadays because Breach exists.

  • @Joltfire95
    @Joltfire95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The life totals at the end of the game... nice

  • @noahsaari9094
    @noahsaari9094 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been using the backpack for two years and if you’re an enfranchised player without a similar implement, I simply urge you to consider this, it’s seriously amazing.

  • @Melissanoma
    @Melissanoma ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why did Alan cast Burnt Offering at 5:54? He spent 1 black mana to cast the spell and got 1 black from it resolving so the only effect was Viscera Seer died for nothing? Other than adding +1 storm but he didn't play a storm spell.

    • @collinbeal
      @collinbeal ปีที่แล้ว

      He was already screwed anyways, so was probably just playing out his hand. It's a bad habit of mine, too.

  • @TopGunner4411
    @TopGunner4411 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see a video explaining the sticker-dot system. Are all the cards double sleeved and the stickers are on the inner sleeve? Are all the dots generally in the same spot based on their colour? I also have to assume there is something like a crib sheet which explains the decks?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At this point, we might just do that. We get a lot of questions about it.

  • @zut8448
    @zut8448 ปีที่แล้ว

    What on earth was going on with Kevins life at around 8:55 😂 up down up down up down!

  • @chrisedward9161
    @chrisedward9161 ปีที่แล้ว

    That backpack is epic😮I'm getting one

  • @brandonmoore4651
    @brandonmoore4651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watch y’all every time y’all drop a new video

  • @Chase0313
    @Chase0313 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of curiosity, what does those circular stickers on the players cards?

  • @jamescoulter267
    @jamescoulter267 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aethflux doing some work this video

  • @saxyman98
    @saxyman98 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a decklist error for the Kozilek list?
    There is a sundering titan in there lol

  • @kylehill
    @kylehill ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why the stickers?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      They have a Cedh box filled with common cedh staples. They can assemble many decks out of this box. They use the stickers to quickly assemble the decks.

  • @keelangilmour2511
    @keelangilmour2511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jay ended on such a nice number. Nice

  • @angellopez6475
    @angellopez6475 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did reanimate target dockside extortionist? Wasnt it exiled as well?

  • @jcjackson9367
    @jcjackson9367 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want that 5 color mana tracker Jay is using @11:38. Did yall make that custom or buy it from somewhere? Would help replace 5 cards with 1 in my token deckbox.

  • @tsorf98
    @tsorf98 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s with the dots on the card sleeves on kevins and dequans

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax1375 ปีที่แล้ว

    Firing the laser!

  • @MrAvatarzan
    @MrAvatarzan ปีที่แล้ว

    Void Mirror is pretty killer against Kozilek, forces them to maindeck outs like Urborg and Yavimaya

    • @ShinkuDragon
      @ShinkuDragon ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really, any rock or land fhat can produce a color and you're good to go. And it doesn't do much against most other decks either so it's usually a bad slot

  • @nathanlaszlo611
    @nathanlaszlo611 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know where to get the tokens they used to track floating mana?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      theepicstorm.com has really cool floating mana tokens.

  • @karolkurzawa3246
    @karolkurzawa3246 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice games

  • @JusticeShines
    @JusticeShines ปีที่แล้ว

    Where was the Sword of playmate acquired from?

  • @scottgerk7627
    @scottgerk7627 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are those stickers on y'all's cards?

  • @atcandotherthings4985
    @atcandotherthings4985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:51 man turn 3 ugin hurts !

  • @EspeonGaming0
    @EspeonGaming0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never thought I’d hear “Aggro” and “Stax” in the same breath

    • @GuiDragon1
      @GuiDragon1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you mean? Literally the only way to play aggro in cedh is by playing stax...

    • @EspeonGaming0
      @EspeonGaming0 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean. I've never been a cedh player or really cared about cedh in general until recently. And "Aggro" and "Stax" in a more casualish environment don't go together

    • @EspeonGaming0
      @EspeonGaming0 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s just very weird for me to hear in the same sentence

  • @Frommerman
    @Frommerman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the product placement every time someone plays Dockside. Way better than the sponsored segments in literally every video these days.
    (No hate for having sponsors. Gotta get that bag somehow, capitalism is just the death of art)

  • @want2bfrst75
    @want2bfrst75 ปีที่แล้ว

    my question is where did alan get his playmat

  • @draconocor1309
    @draconocor1309 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kozilek and Jetmir??? Dafuq?

  • @Havlark
    @Havlark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i own that bag and can confirm its absolutely great

  • @Loco231
    @Loco231 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't Tainted Pact get countered by Counter Balance with Lim Dul's Vault on top?

  • @elucor
    @elucor ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahahahah Alan enemy for life. XD

  • @cax1175
    @cax1175 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is the Kozilek deck playing Mox Amber? It can't create colorless off the Eldrazi titans or colorless planeswalkers

  • @kk199727
    @kk199727 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats all the dots on the cards ?

  • @gameboywolf
    @gameboywolf ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the different colored stickers on the cards represent?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Commander Box! It's a way to have only one copy of a card, but use it in multiple decks. It's an easy way to assemble a deck.

    • @gameboywolf
      @gameboywolf ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PlayingWithPowerMTG oh, okay. Thank you!

  • @n8rboy
    @n8rboy ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @chandlermiller3944
    @chandlermiller3944 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really feel like game 1 collector ouphe takes MVP. It shut down the rocks on board and everyone else struggled to find enough mana.

  • @CacZarn
    @CacZarn ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love me some aetherflux wins

  • @so_sick_of_flowers
    @so_sick_of_flowers ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Loved seeing a set of games without blue farm.

  • @Pim-Emporix
    @Pim-Emporix ปีที่แล้ว

    omg i wanted to order the bag .. they dont ship outside of the USA :( ..

  • @gordonsenger9395
    @gordonsenger9395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's with the stickers on everyones sleeves?

    • @jfostr0
      @jfostr0 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm also wondering this!

    • @dequan426
      @dequan426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s my coding system for my cedh cube. I can switch decks in between games. And it saves me money, so I don’t have to keep buying cards.

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR ปีที่แล้ว

    That Culling the Weak on a 3 mana, then Burnt Offering on a 1 mana doesn't seem right. But, can't fault someone when they have that many cards in hand

  • @WushuTaz
    @WushuTaz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Okay....I'll be that guy. 69!!!

  • @Fyrwulf
    @Fyrwulf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unless I'm misremembering how Doomsday works, you lose half your life rounded up. So, he shouldn't have "gone out on his own terms".

  • @robertbauerle5592
    @robertbauerle5592 ปีที่แล้ว

    Technically jay couldn't have killed himself with doomsday because the aetherflux reservoir would've given him 1 life, then he would've lost half of 2 and gone back to 1. He did also have an ancient tomb he could've used to kill himself tho.

  • @curtisfarley6558
    @curtisfarley6558 ปีที่แล้ว

    jetmir is the real deal huh? are we going to see more wrath effects in cedh now lol

  • @williambosma8726
    @williambosma8726 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love seeing the Jetmir win the first game!

  • @sribrogangster3267
    @sribrogangster3267 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi i build 1 deck can I send it to you and can you tel my it its wokr?

  • @apocalypticoreos6460
    @apocalypticoreos6460 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alan's playmat being outdated 😳

  • @leonardoherrera8908
    @leonardoherrera8908 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't Kevin pay to untap his Mana Vault when he did nothing two turns in a row?

    • @Murkglow
      @Murkglow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He never had enough mana. There was a collector ouphe in play shutting down all his artifacts.

    • @leonardoherrera8908
      @leonardoherrera8908 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Murkglow Oh duh! Thanks for helping me see that

  • @vanilleR028
    @vanilleR028 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also mayhem devil could killed in the last game. The reservoir was a little "to much". Even so, this gameplay was pretty good overall. I love the variety on the table and the wincons.

    • @drewhoffmaster2969
      @drewhoffmaster2969 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm honestly not sure if Mayhem Devil would've done it? The line seems a bit odd based on the table. When Mayhem Devil hit the table, the total remaining life for opponents was 63, so you would need 63 sac triggers. The line I can see that would get that would be Dockside + Culling the Weak/Burnt Offering, either or.
      There were 4 artifacts/enchantments on the battlefield, so dockside would make 4 treasures. Plus 1 from saccing the dockside gets you 5 devil triggers per loop. Based on a life total of 63, Jay would need to repeat the loop 13 times to kill. Each loop involves escaping 2 spells, so that eats 6 cards from graveyard per loop, meaning Jay would need 78 cards left in grave at that point in order to go off.
      The Stitcher's Supplier/Culling the Weak line is mana positive but card neutral, unfortunately, so it would have eaten a good portion of the library to set up. You would be able to PitA plus LED to dump cards back into the grave, but I feel the damage was already done by that point. Then again, I wasn't tracking library count, so who knows?

  • @benjaminstonehocker5382
    @benjaminstonehocker5382 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode! Havent seen Aetherflux go that hard before? Is that common in CEDH? Pretty insane. Ill have to investigate the card more.

    • @collinbeal
      @collinbeal ปีที่แล้ว

      In a deck that's built to explosively storm off, it's very possible, but still difficult.

  • @erickcarjes2738
    @erickcarjes2738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you please ask TCG to have a better mobile experience? It hurts to see the decklist over there

    • @erickcarjes2738
      @erickcarjes2738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This channel has a great content, amazing editing and I just love it! I always look over the decklists to see if they can give me ideas on a High Powered EDH. Just thank you for all that quality content

  • @Shmegg
    @Shmegg ปีที่แล้ว

    Noicee

  • @DUxMORTEM
    @DUxMORTEM ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That 1st game was weird and looked like everyone was kinda lost on what was going on.

    • @christopherlapp4553
      @christopherlapp4553 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah tutors, Ad Nauseam, and no counterspells to stop them. Deserves a rewatch to see if it could have been different.

  • @MehrGills
    @MehrGills ปีที่แล้ว

    In g2, wasn't the aetherflux activation early? It should have been removed from the game along with every other card that Kevin owned.
    Edit: it was not Kevin's aetherflux. Nevermind

  • @fallenlords3151
    @fallenlords3151 ปีที่แล้ว

    alan playmat should get an update

  • @jordanderbidge532
    @jordanderbidge532 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, that’s how you pronounce kamehameha? 😅

  • @Quelfas
    @Quelfas ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting game without Blue ~

  • @MrSeam0nk3y
    @MrSeam0nk3y ปีที่แล้ว

    Kevin not paying 4 to untap the mana vault 3 turns in a row when he had nothing else to do hurt my soul to watch

    • @cuttlefish6839
      @cuttlefish6839 ปีที่แล้ว

      With collector ouphe he couldn't. He also deployed his whole hand right before it came down so he was put off the game by t3

  • @decio15
    @decio15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually the kozilek list is pretty meh sadly, missing a lot of staple imo.

  • @tizianomoreni6035
    @tizianomoreni6035 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content but.... why Aminatou is called Animatou? Lot of people do so. Eng not my native language so it's a sincere question.

  • @k1llampt
    @k1llampt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the first game Jay would have gone to two life from casting doomsday due to aetherflux, then back to 1 as it resolved.

    • @DUxMORTEM
      @DUxMORTEM ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except Jay didn't control Aetherflux, Kevin did

    • @k1llampt
      @k1llampt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DUxMORTEM except when he cast it at 7:40. Maybe you should go back and watch it before commenting.

    • @DefCatofficial
      @DefCatofficial ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@k1llampt lets be nice to our fellow cedh players, we are a small community after all

  • @maxsternburg1956
    @maxsternburg1956 ปีที่แล้ว

    doomsday wouldnt have killed him since he would have gained a life from aetherflux first

  • @psykoenda8315
    @psykoenda8315 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the kozilek deck list is illegal since it contains a Sundering Titan

  • @panzerjaeger3847
    @panzerjaeger3847 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sohai play kozilek in a cedh environment 🤦‍♂️

  • @slymcfly123
    @slymcfly123 ปีที่แล้ว

    He killed himself. What a clown