The 0452CF and the 0909, big is in! All of the others are tiny compared to them. My ZT collection actually sits (most of the time) in my ZT bag! The 32 others (mixed smogasborge) take turns in my pockets daily! I am really a fixed blade man.
Mine neither! The wife and I had to go to mediation and it was settled that $150 a month of my retirement check goes to my blades of all types so I wait for the sales, those desperate to unload the knife they could not afford so I make out well. That does not include sharpening supplies, that's a totally different budget!
Yeah, spyderco likes to claim that they don't put a sharpening choil because they want it to cut all the way back to the edge, but they can't even sharpen the back anyways, so it still doesn't cut LOL.
What do you think would be a better buy for me. I like screaming thin edges that stay razor sharp as long as possible, and for me most edges roll rather than wear out. I do take very good care of my knives and edges. I don't cut shit stupidly. I've been looking at the pm2 52100 or the manix 2 lw maxamet? Btw I also have an endura 4 in super blue steel that does really well for me and takes a wicked edge. One of my favorite steels ever even more so than s110v
This is the video everyone needs to watch about Maxamet. Yes, it'll snap if you stick your knife into something, and try to pry with it. Unless you have a THIC Boi, you should not be trying to do any prying. Love my Para 3 and Sage 1 Maxamet. Thought about doing a video like this. Considering I abuse my knives.
Sour keep it coarse, 600 grit tops. Make the burr at the coarse grit. Use light alternating passes to deburr as much as possible on the stone. Jump to white ceramic, alternating edge leading passes (just to fully deburr) Jump to 1 micron diamond spray on leather. Really brings out the best qualities of s90v. Very aggressive edge but unrefined. This isn't the only way, just A way. Experiment and find what you like, I've tried to polish s90v, don't get me wrong, it works, it's not hard to do. But s90v seems to loss that hair popping sharpeness fast. If you think about it. The tempered martinsite matrix is only 59-60 HRC. Despite that it's loaded with excessive carbon. People forget, carbon is the building blocks for the millions of different microstructures in the steel that give us all the different attributes. Alot of the carbon in S90V bonds with the Vanadium during austenizing(heating/soaking) and tempering(heating after cooling/quenching) to form very hard clumps in the steel we call Vanadium Carbides. Very very hard. Some sources say 83 HRC. So if you think about it, a rougher edge exposes more of those carbides that your paying for rather then making them uniform covering them with a Polish that blends them into the softer surrounding structures forcing the edge to rely purely on the yield strength (resistance to deformation during any type of cut) of the material, in this case s90v at 59-60 HRC. The Vanadium is hard but it doesn't Jack the HRC like you think it should because they are separate clumps embedded in the steel matrix. Meanwhile, the complete opposite of s90v would be Shirogami #1a which is just a plain Japanese carbon steel with Carbon and manganese. Very basic but very high carbon. It doesn't have the larger, harder Carbides or carbide volume that would give it more resistance dulling. Yet it has finer cementite (iron carbides) if heat treated properly that can be intersitital (in the grain) very very fine that fills the gaps in the tempered martinsite lattice during tempering and can raise the overall hardness. It's still limited without other alloys but Shirogami can get to 63-64hrc. the advantage is the steel takes a better polished edge and will sharpen wayyyyy better. The Polished edge still won't out cut a toothy edge. Shriogami isn't going to look good on rope cut tests. But users will notice that it will hold that very fleeting high sharpeness a bit longer the a steel like s90v. Now you have a rough idea about how to evaluate the best finish's for the different steels. Whats really exciting is when you realize that certain jobs demand certain finishes such a breaking down boxes needs toothy. Or sushi and shaving needs polish. Whats really gets crazy is when it all comes together and you realize how to maximize the synergy of certain steels and finishes to match the job/task. Hahha and we haven't even really discussed the really big, almost more important attributes such as , geometry, heat treatment and most of all just plain preferences haha. It's endless. Never stop learning
The biggest reason I don't have more of an experience with Maxamet it is I can't seem to make myself carry the lightweight model But I've got a question do you think the edges on the blade are broken (rounded off) as a direct design element from Spyderco or do you think that came from the stone washing process
Lugermonger Yeah where's that Para 3 man!? Not sure to be honest. Seems like it's from the tumbling since the spine doesn't have a full domed crown. Also all the little pointy area like on the plunge are smoothed out too. That might be too time consuming on a grinder and buffer.
Big Brown Guy that's a good point if there were going to round the spine they would have crowned it which is just too much for this knife you're probably right I imagine it takes a hell of a tumbling process to get that finish which makes me wonder if they use standard Stone washing media or if it was something crazy
Man when I first saw that steel figured it was just gunna be another "typical" super steel ya kno nothing crazy but 67 HRC!?!?! Think I found the first new(ish) folder that I really REALLY want to save up for! Although I will also probably wait til its in the pm2 as well, also what a sweet shirt where'd you get it? Love me the first two alien films!
anotherrandomtexan25 same bro, wasn't too interested until I found out the HRC, the hardeness isn't everything but if the grain is fine and the mircostructure is stable then the harder blade will always take the keenest edge and hold the hair popping sharpeness which goes fast in all steel a tad longer. Maxamet doesn't disappoint for that type of user.
Why do you think ppl said maxamet can't be sharpened without chunks of the edge falling off? You think it had to do your the edge pro? Maybe to much pressure?
Sour bad heat treatment got past QC? User error? Poor Sharpening technique? People just repeating what they hear? Who knows? I can show you my experience and let you know I am satisfied though, that is a fact.
I love finding videos like this while the exact knife is in the mail... 😀
I love it! The way you get excited about a Spyderco is the same way I get over a ZT!!
Nate Brabant that 0456 man. Money
The 0452CF and the 0909, big is in! All of the others are tiny compared to them. My ZT collection actually sits (most of the time) in my ZT bag! The 32 others (mixed smogasborge) take turns in my pockets daily! I am really a fixed blade man.
Nate Brabant man, I'm all over the place, folders, fixed, axe, kitchen. Love em. My wallet don't hahaha
Mine neither! The wife and I had to go to mediation and it was settled that $150 a month of my retirement check goes to my blades of all types so I wait for the sales, those desperate to unload the knife they could not afford so I make out well. That does not include sharpening supplies, that's a totally different budget!
Nate Brabant God, I know exactly what you mean hahaha
That annoys me too, I put a sharpening notch on all of my Spydercos... much easier than trying to sharpen it all the way back on a stone.
Yeah, spyderco likes to claim that they don't put a sharpening choil because they want it to cut all the way back to the edge, but they can't even sharpen the back anyways, so it still doesn't cut LOL.
Thanks for explaining and putting Maxamet to the test. I really don’t know why people are so eager to bash it without using it.
Nice that you are doing videos again. I got the svord von tempsky Bowie knife this Week. A knife you should try. A beast
Good energy making this video as well hope to see more for u
Awesome knife! Have to check out Maxamet.
you ... 90 cuts... that australian guy... 1050 rope cuts :D
What do you think would be a better buy for me. I like screaming thin edges that stay razor sharp as long as possible, and for me most edges roll rather than wear out. I do take very good care of my knives and edges. I don't cut shit stupidly. I've been looking at the pm2 52100 or the manix 2 lw maxamet? Btw I also have an endura 4 in super blue steel that does really well for me and takes a wicked edge. One of my favorite steels ever even more so than s110v
This is the video everyone needs to watch about Maxamet. Yes, it'll snap if you stick your knife into something, and try to pry with it. Unless you have a THIC Boi, you should not be trying to do any prying. Love my Para 3 and Sage 1 Maxamet. Thought about doing a video like this. Considering I abuse my knives.
Truly appreciate this vid. Glad to see you prove your point on video. Unlike the Maxamet nah sayers who haven't shown me proof of their point of view.
SGJarrod Empirical evidence is King.
Nice!
Police 4 or Military Maxamet is dream knife
Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors Amen bro, amen
Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors really wanted the Police more then this knife but gotta check this steel out
Did the k390 police 4 satisfy that dream?
love my para3 maxamet，nice shirt btw
Not a big fan of the manix but I picked up the 154cf and s90v cf. what stones or plates do you like for s90v to get the most out of the edge
Sour keep it coarse, 600 grit tops. Make the burr at the coarse grit. Use light alternating passes to deburr as much as possible on the stone.
Jump to white ceramic, alternating edge leading passes (just to fully deburr)
Jump to 1 micron diamond spray on leather.
Really brings out the best qualities of s90v. Very aggressive edge but unrefined.
This isn't the only way, just A way. Experiment and find what you like,
I've tried to polish s90v, don't get me wrong, it works, it's not hard to do. But s90v seems to loss that hair popping sharpeness fast.
If you think about it. The tempered martinsite matrix is only 59-60 HRC. Despite that it's loaded with excessive carbon. People forget, carbon is the building blocks for the millions of different microstructures in the steel that give us all the different attributes. Alot of the carbon in S90V bonds with the Vanadium during austenizing(heating/soaking) and tempering(heating after cooling/quenching) to form very hard clumps in the steel we call Vanadium Carbides. Very very hard. Some sources say 83 HRC.
So if you think about it, a rougher edge exposes more of those carbides that your paying for rather then making them uniform covering them with a Polish that blends them into the softer surrounding structures forcing the edge to rely purely on the yield strength (resistance to deformation during any type of cut) of the material, in this case s90v at 59-60 HRC.
The Vanadium is hard but it doesn't Jack the HRC like you think it should because they are separate clumps embedded in the steel matrix.
Meanwhile, the complete opposite of s90v would be Shirogami #1a which is just a plain Japanese carbon steel with Carbon and manganese. Very basic but very high carbon. It doesn't have the larger, harder Carbides or carbide volume that would give it more resistance dulling. Yet it has finer cementite (iron carbides) if heat treated properly that can be intersitital (in the grain) very very fine that fills the gaps in the tempered martinsite lattice during tempering and can raise the overall hardness. It's still limited without other alloys but Shirogami can get to 63-64hrc. the advantage is the steel takes a better polished edge and will sharpen wayyyyy better. The Polished edge still won't out cut a toothy edge. Shriogami isn't going to look good on rope cut tests. But users will notice that it will hold that very fleeting high sharpeness a bit longer the a steel like s90v.
Now you have a rough idea about how to evaluate the best finish's for the different steels. Whats really exciting is when you realize that certain jobs demand certain finishes such a breaking down boxes needs toothy. Or sushi and shaving needs polish. Whats really gets crazy is when it all comes together and you realize how to maximize the synergy of certain steels and finishes to match the job/task. Hahha and we haven't even really discussed the really big, almost more important attributes such as , geometry, heat treatment and most of all just plain preferences haha.
It's endless. Never stop learning
The biggest reason I don't have more of an experience with Maxamet it is I can't seem to make myself carry the lightweight model
But I've got a question do you think the edges on the blade are broken (rounded off) as a direct design element from Spyderco or do you think that came from the stone washing process
Lugermonger Yeah where's that Para 3 man!?
Not sure to be honest. Seems like it's from the tumbling since the spine doesn't have a full domed crown. Also all the little pointy area like on the plunge are smoothed out too. That might be too time consuming on a grinder and buffer.
Big Brown Guy that's a good point if there were going to round the spine they would have crowned it which is just too much for this knife you're probably right I imagine it takes a hell of a tumbling process to get that finish which makes me wonder if they use standard Stone washing media or if it was something crazy
Man when I first saw that steel figured it was just gunna be another "typical" super steel ya kno nothing crazy but 67 HRC!?!?! Think I found the first new(ish) folder that I really REALLY want to save up for! Although I will also probably wait til its in the pm2 as well, also what a sweet shirt where'd you get it? Love me the first two alien films!
anotherrandomtexan25 same bro, wasn't too interested until I found out the HRC, the hardeness isn't everything but if the grain is fine and the mircostructure is stable then the harder blade will always take the keenest edge and hold the hair popping sharpeness which goes fast in all steel a tad longer. Maxamet doesn't disappoint for that type of user.
anotherrandomtexan25 Wife and me love the alien movies, she got this sick ass shirt
Why do you think ppl said maxamet can't be sharpened without chunks of the edge falling off? You think it had to do your the edge pro? Maybe to much pressure?
Sour I don't know.
Possibly ppl just being a dick and hating on high carbide steels.
Sour bad heat treatment got past QC? User error? Poor Sharpening technique? People just repeating what they hear? Who knows? I can show you my experience and let you know I am satisfied though, that is a fact.
Nice video! Does Maxamet do better with a toothy or a polished edge?
Reinen Ruud I like a medium to a polished edge.
how the hell did you do that reverse flick !
Finger in hole flick out