- Meghan Fitzmartin mocks the fans, ruins Tim Drake. - She-Hulk writers mocks the fans. - I’ve taken inspiration from Dok and ended my pull list. These companies don’t deserve my money, time, and devotion to new issues. - I’ll read back issues. Screw DC
It’s also the third such story this week… and it’s only Monday. She-Hulk, the tales of which get worse by the hour. G4. There are already hints that they are planning to spin up the tales of “Racism and misogyny” for Black Panther. The toy licensee ‘s are worried and annoyed by it and are starting to leak.
I just don't know how someone like that calls themselves a writer; I mean, if it's a parody title, sure, write that kind of meta parody and troll your readers. But if it's not? Don't.
It takes time to study the history of characters and get into their heads. So much easier to just pretend like they have no history and just echo all of your personal thoughts. She's lazy on top of being toxic.
@@PhilipAMoore The dialog is right there on the page. He's not taking anything out of context. The current "creatives" at dead company are petty and incompetent.
@@Wes_From_TC So, the fems have invaded DC like they have Marvel and are spreading their H8 to the male fans. What is there to talk about. Since the fans never do anything about it
@@PhilipAMoore They boiled down stuff we say and make it cynical as possible then put our words in the mouth of a blatantly silly villain to make it seem irrational or bigoted. Doesn’t help how grimey it is to be dumping on a creation of Peter David while he was struggling financially and having health issues. The editors alone should know better. They really don’t need to tear down others to build themselves up. She wrote Robin Eternal and that was one of my favorite Future State titles but this Tim Drake:Robin series is no where near the quality of that.
The whole "childhood card" is so played out. We don't necessarily want our childhoods back, or whatever. We want cool characters who are true to what they've been defined as. We want gripping and compelling action-packed stories because the characters are, ya know, SUPERHEROS! We want competent writers, artists, and editors, because, well forget it. If that's not obvious, then I don't know what is.
Well said. If something's truly worth liking (in this case the original Young Justice series), I don't think you ever stop liking it. But the idea that most comics fans are stuck in the past or are suffering from arrested development is ridiculous, especially when it comes from someone working in the industry.
*10 years from now if anyone picks up this comic in the 50 cent bin* Reader: Who is Meghan Fitzmartin? I don't see her name in comics. DC Reader: Those were the Dark Times...
DC started going downhill way back when Warner bought and put that crazy witch Jenette Kahn in charge. She was the Queen Bee that drove out the good people. As long as those idiots at Warner own DC it will never get better.
Make Tim Drake and Alan Scott straight again - the way they're SUPPOSED to be - and put the rest of Goddamned Justice League Queer here on one of those unnamed Grant Morrison Earths from Multiversity where they can agenda themselves over and over again unto infinity. And lock Fitzmoron away with Prometheus in the Crooked House away from normal people.
Fans would support the "diverse replacements" if the writing was good. Greg Rucka's Batwoman was excellent for example. GCPD was diverse, and brilliantly written. Fitzmartin hasn't blown me away with her ideas, so I'm not going to buy her work. She's like an Incel. Blaming the people who reject her, instead of working on having anything else to offer other than spite.
I agree with everything said. Meghan Fitzgerald is the worst writer at DC. Her Young Justice and Tim Drake stories were absolutely terrible. The page in issue #5 of Dark Crisis Young Justice was deeply offensive. I've been loyal DC comics reader my entire life and that's what the writer thinks of me. I can't support DC if continue down this path. The best I can do is not buy this crap. Maybe DC will learn that wokeness doesn't sell. DC needs a massive house cleaning.
Jim Lee knows he'll get the Twitter police on his ass if he does anything. At the slightest mistake, he gets cancelled for his work during the 90s. I still maintain that Dan Didio and Bendis were the start of the disaster.
There's no doubt that DiDio and Bendis were the catalysts and Lee is soft and a coward. Way to pay back the industry that made him successful and famous, huh?
i was a doomsayer the moment i heard bendis transfering to dc with the power to bring a team of people of his choosing i though "NO NO HES GONNA MAKE DC WOKE THREW CROONYISM" and then dc was made woke threw croonyism.
Yup, it's time to fire everyone at DC Comics. And end all of the contractors with all of the creators. Just start Epic Collection and Masterwork lines at DC Comics.
Don't aim so low Wes, Warner Discovery need to fire everyone at DC. Get Jim Lee's a** out of there too while you're at it. Wipe the slate clean and (maybe) start over.
Companies: Let's make every existing fan feel like bad guys and call them sexist homophobic white supremacists if they don't like something. Also companies: Where'd everybody go? Why didn't anyone buy our products? And where are the fans Twitter told me demanded these things?
The only movement forward with Tim Drake that made sense was his leaving the role of Robin behind and becoming Red Robin PRE-FLASHPOINT. Moving away from the role he broke into with and becoming his own hero. Taking on RA'S AL GHUL! THAT MADE SENSE! This? Changing the sexuality of Tim when he left Gotham City with STEPHANIE BROWN?! The girl that's been the Catwoman to his Batman? STOP WITH THE RETCONNING CRAP BECAUSE IT'S BECOMING A TOKEN MOVE TO SELL BOOKS. And by saying that I'm saying if you want LGBT representation in DC? Create original LGBT heroes that are WRITTEN WELL! ENOUGH WITH THESE CHANGES FOR GOD'S SAKE! It's not just Meghan, it's been a prevalent whole that's plagued the company since the failure of The New 52.
DC Comics and Marvel Comics need to go away until true competent fans take control of these companies and course correct. Until that happens, expect more of this nonsense. It's only going to get worse. The only caveat is that David Zaslav is aware and will more than likely start giving pink slips soon enough. But the damage is done. The future of the big two is intellectual property licenses. DC's and Marvel's days are numbered. It's only a matter of time, pressure, and opportunity.
@@Wes_From_TC I swear whenever there is something wrong with DC, I find myself growling DiDio’s name like Newman from Seinfeld, because he is almost always involved in some capacity somehow
@@PhilipAMoore DiDio was also behind one of the WORST comic events with Countdown, he was a major force behind the New 52 reboot, had a major hand in War Games particularly the treatment of Stephanie Brown, he wanted to kill off Dick Grayson during Infinite Crisis, and there is testimony that he hated every aspect of “52” which is regarded by some as a masterpiece. My point is that DiDio did some good, but for me (and many others) he did far more harm.
There's a reason I haven't bought a comic in over a decade. I don't give money to people who hate me. Especially if they crow about how much they hate me.
@@PhilipAMoore Impulse has always been smart. In fact, with regards to pure information retention, Bart's possibly the smartest person on earth (neither Mr Terrific nor Lex Luthor are able to remember everything they read. Bart Allen does.). Impulse's problem is that he's not clever. Which isn't surprising given that his education during his formative years was created by a Coluan, the species that exemplifies that specific problem.
@@PhilipAMoore But he already was moving past that. Geoff Johns showed us a Bart who takes his role seriously in the pages of Teen Titans. Did subsequent writers ignore his character growth?
@@PhilipAMoore It starts right there in the first arc when Jericho shoots Bart in the knee. That hyperactive superball that Bart's been since introduced in Mark Waid's Flash run starts his growth right away, and keeps growing. The kid who asked the Pope if he was Catholic ("Hey, a lot of my friends want to know!") is turning into an impatient bookworm who is trying to bring his behavior under control.
This writer is using young justice and Tim Drake as stepping stone to show the Hollywood big guys that she can do a show job like writing she-ra princesses of power of other queer based Netflix type show not caring about her audience who do keep her and DC comics in business....when you have people like doc on your show come out and tell your audience that they are done with modern comics that is a sign that modern writers have upset and trolled legacy readers who have had enough of their lazy hateful bullshit stories....
We didn't need to hear that from tne creator because Bernard often talked about how hot Tim's stepmother was. I haven't gone back to read through the issues but from I remember Tim didn't actually seem all that fond of Bernard.
Meanwhile, manga, which actually has good stories and creators, has gained so much popularity in the west over the past couple years. To my knowledge, manga creators normally don't belittle their audiences
All these hateful women should be removed from the DC creative team. Think about what comics looked like in the 1970's and do it like that. Just saying...
The hilarious bit about this to me is that because this story's gone full blown meta, nothing about the plot or the straw man argument makes sense. Not only could Myx Jr have visited the boys anytime he wants, but they were never "replaced" by characters like Yara Flor or Nubia because they live entirely separate lives from each other. It's not like Tim Drake was deposed as Queen of the Amazons when she came along, or Poison Ivy, Harley, and Dreamer somehow took away Connor Kent's spotlight. It'd be like going up to Ya Boi Zack and telling him he's been "replaced" by Kim Kardashian. Also, we just had a Young Justice series by Bendis, so WTF does Myx mean by "I never get to see you anymore"? They had a hit TV series ffs.
@@PhilipAMoore They honestly could've just stuck with confronting their replacements and left it there. The idea of having your birthright being taken by someone better is certainly a haunting one... but again, characters like Alan Scott, Nubia, and Dreamer have jack all to do with their lives being ruined and their "stories" not being told.
@@CrisisComics That was a poor jab because they're convinced that the only issue with the characters are race and sexuality (which is why she added Bernard in there too). She (and a lot of other writers) are stuck in the mindset that the ones complaining are just white and straight. The rest of us all "love" the new characters.
@@Wes_From_TC Maybe the in-universe reason that Young Justice's history is being tweaked is that someone from the Dark Multiverse is trying to retcon their history and reshape Earth Prime's timeline by removing their influence from key events (like Kon El and Bart Allen defeating Superboy Prime, or the whole team participating in the Technis Imperative or World War III). The only catch is that the changes won't become real until the victim believes them, hence the gaslighting with distorted illusions and retellings of the trio's past. If they believe they sucked, it becomes reality.
That entire dialogue of Megan in this comic is a spit in the face of every fan that loves and adores Young Justice and characters like Robin (Tim Drake). I am still pissed at Tim Drake’s change. They hear us but don’t want to change or acknowledge their missteps. Zaslav really need to ax all of these people and start from scratch and get writers and editors that actually care for the titles.
I don't need DC Comics. I don't need Marvel Comics. Batman, Wonder Woman, the Justice League and the Teen Titans are all dead. So I will make my own. Spider-Man, Wolverine, the X-Men, the Avengers, and the Fantastic Four are all dead. So I will make my own. They can't stop me. They never will.
I can't wait for Zaslav gets a hold of DC. The only hope for this company is to totally shut down this continuity and start over from scratch. It's fire sale time. Everything must go.
The best way to restore superboy is to say the boyfriend wth the pink hair actually has hair dye that has pink kryptonite in it....and say the pink k was making him gay.....and restore him to straightness
The people who should be angry are actual LGBT people who're being made into adversaries by the this writer. She's making people agree with the villain.
It still feels like it's not ok to be a nerd. When you're a true fan, these "cool kids" at DC still treat you like a nerd and tell you your opinion doesn't matter. It's a sad time to be a fan.
@@Wes_From_TC That's definitely what it feels like. I've been reading the older books in my collection, and I almost forgot how fun comics could be. I can't see wanting to have fun with comics as a bad thing. Instead we get writers projecting their emotional issues and not actually working through them.
@@Matt_Wilson01 As were many of the "cool kid" cliques that didn't like comics and made fun of kids that did. Now those same people that hated comics work for the major companies. They're hateful and bitter and want everyone else to be the same.
Personally, I think after seeing this DC and probably Marvel need to purge all of their female writers, go to Japan and hire a tonne of female Mangaka to replace them all. Sounds hateful but this issue proves that these people don't care about comics, the characters, their long histories and what they mean to people, so they deserve to be removed from titles. With female Mangaka you actually get kickass stories and break sales records and yes that is indeed a reference to Demon Slayer, a manga created by a woman that outsold the entire comic business.
So glad i chose to pass on this trash, I was turned off by this the moment i saw stuff from issue 1. She needs to be fired and this story just forgotten about...this is why DC is 1 step away from being outsourced. Such as shame because Superman/DC Comics is why I fell in love with comics. Never should have been pubished, this woman should never be allowed near another DC character again. DC Needs to fix there stuff, I took a break for 2 years from comics for personal reasons and this is what I came back to, sigh, and Marvels not much better either. Welp I'll be ready for the reboot after Dark crisis then I'll be sharing my thoughts on things again too. Keep up the awesome work!
@@Wes_From_TC Appreciate it while I was on break but I did this once and I'll be doing it again for same reasons as you. Look forward to bein back in the comic field soon
DC Comics in its creative and editorial staff, make me think of that cartoon meme of the dog sitting at a table with his coffee, surrounded by a burning room saying, "This is fine".
I don't know how you managed to keep yourself composed, and speak so well, during this rant. I've loved the DCU for almost 40 years, and I find it hard to articulate, just how much I despise all of these people, and how they, not all the fans, should've been ousted from comics, years ago. There are other jobs, looking for employees that show up for work. Comics and other forms of entertainment aren't for these narcissistic, short sighted losers. They're just not good at it.
You are correct in saying this. This is so frustrating to read this and collect your favorite character to be threat like this . She even don't know who they are and you recognize this for how she write the book
You summed up my thoughts exactly Wes! You said it nicer than I would be. But I do agree it's time for everyone to get fired in Marvel and DC comic books at this point because all of the loser writers and editors that are there I'm sick of them bashing on us as fans like you dash on us you talk about that you need new readership or whatever but then you have loser writers like Megan who cash us anything that we're supposed to sit here and take it no. Like it's time to burn it all down because I'm sick of it at this point.
Jim Lee got kicked upstairs, he's got a tin star badge. Jim Lee leaving DC in the moment would feel good but change nothing, he's the scapegoat. The 10 real people with power need to go and then their "boss" Jim Lee can follow them. If it is just, "Jim Lee was bad and so were these 5 low on the totem pole writers" and they get fired, nothing will change.
Wow Wes, I missed that issue of Tim and Connor holding hands! Obviously DC is on a mission, make EVERY Superboy gay! So thats the next big event. Superboy and Tim Drake hook up and Superboy has to fight DARK BERNARD! Superman is gonna be SO confused. "What now? My son and my clone?!?! Is this Luthor messing with my DNA?!? BRUCE?!" "Dont look at me Clark, Tims not my son and as far as I know Dick and Damian are just fine....." "But what about you and Ghost...." "WE DONT TALK ABOUT THAT!!! IT WAS A PHASE!" >:)
DC Comics is circling the drain and Discovery is very capable of flushing it completely. People working at DC and people writing DC books really should think about that...
she writes lots of crap and disrespects all history of the characters but i´m concerned about the people above her that let this kind of shit be published, we the long time fans literally mean nothing to them
Same with Young Justice TV show. It's become a joke. The character of Halo is just embarrassing. When I described her to my mother of Muslim decent in Bosnia, she asked me if I was high XD. Don't even get me started other garbage from that I seriously wonder how much of a drop-off in viewer numbers at the end of season 4. And I doubt we'll even see season 5
Greg Weisman (creator of the show) tried to pull a Tom Taylor claiming season 4 had the highest viewership among all the seasons...... only to tell fans to binge watch YJ on HBO Max months later as an effort to save the show. Makes you wonder, if season 4 was really doing that great and the men in the fancy suits over at WBD had noticed, why the need to bring up viewership again? I hope that shit gets cancelled unless they start focusing on good stories again. The whole season 4 was a joke. Nothing but lazy writing, tokenism, pandering etc. The fact that they made only the finale action packed shows that they chose to go woke and ruin their stories by choice.
@@nobuhikoss3330 which is why I'm worried for Gargoyles. There's a new comic coming in December. Not to mention that in 2011, he said that one of the Gargoyles is gay 🙄
@@MrLolguy93 oh god.... tbh like what Wes has always been saying: LGBT characters aren't the issue, bad writing coupled with virtue signalling, tokenism and self-inserting in place of where good story plot and character development should be is the issue. But given today's day and age, I wouldn't be surprised if the latter is the route Greg would be going for for Gargoyles. To this day it alarms me because YJ season 1 and 2 was a hit. The story was amazing, the plot twist, character dynamics, and they stayed true to the characters while alao providing their own original spin on things. That was peak writing right there. And these are the same writers who wasted 1 minute of screentime having Zatara Zatanna recite the Lord's prayer and Halo talking about her identity. Not that it was an issue, but how it was written was so forced and inorganic. Not to mention how arrogant and ignorant they handled Halo's identity. They portrayed her through an American (liberal) lens. If they showed that in places like Indonesia, Malaysia, or the middle East, the backlash would be even more significant that millennial cancel culture. I personally felt Greg already knew from the start the show was never gonna get a season 5, hence Gargoyles would be his backup plan. I don't expect much from that upcoming comic in December. What they always do is hook us on with nostalgia as the Trojan horse to force feed us their tokenism.
@@nobuhikoss3330 precisely The character Lexington even showed interest in Goliath's daughter, but he "discovers" that he's gay later 🙄 Not to mention the whole critically endangered race situation with ridiculously slow reproduction rate (3 eggs during 200 years, with each egg taking around 20 years to hatch)
I don't understand what happened. It's like everyone working at DC on an editorial level or higher, hate the company and the characters. I watched a documentary DC put out a few years ago, it came out around the same time the Green Lantern movie did and was narrated by Ryan Reynolds. It was a fantastic documentary but there was a particular part in there that stands out. They talk about how a lot of the creators that came in during the '60s and 70's were actually fans of the characters. It feels like the complete opposite of that now. My hope is the pendulum swings the other way and soon we'll get a bunch of new creators and that are actually fans of the characters and their legacies. My big worry is that the current creators will burn DC and Marvel to the ground before that actually happens.
Meh, i released long time ago that LGBT hero characters who are cool will be from indie or even other media...characters who are coherent characters who are gay, what even being part of their character it still works. This people are obsessed with stablished things, like the ComicAlliance article who claim that Captain America being gay can be a great step on representation, what is just bullcrap... In Dc and Marvel we want to see Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, IronMan, Wonder Woman, Flash, X-Men like Wolverine, Green Lantern, etc...but you can do that with inept writters...worst if they are progs obsessed with attacking fans, labeling them as trolls. Lets be honest, we like the Young heroes like the original Tim Drake, but we can't leave them as the pillars of DC, worse if we have parasites like Fitzmartin....HOWEVER, respect is the only thing it needs to stay, but i do not see this heroes as "grow up" heroes...it happened with Jon Kent, it will happen with Conner...but let good stories go. FIRE THEM....FIRE THEM ALL. Its the only way to say this.
I won’t pick up anything Megan writes because you can tell that she doesn’t know how to develop characters or shape a storyline. She will go if you don’t support her work. Preferably, sooner, rather than later.
So this crossover series and the She-Hulk show are trying to attack their critics but it backfired and proves them all right! I would laugh at that if they hadn’t wasted our time and for the fact that I know that despite their failures to get an audience their still going to be employed
At least She Hulk was comedy, self-aware and treat the toxic fans as parody of what they usualy are: Just bigotry "attention seeking" trolls. When they tried to do a super hero vs super villain, she broke the 4th wall, called out how absurd this was and just said "screw that, Kevin! they are just arrest No need to punch them or anything! That's it!". She even made fun of MCU troopes (showing her 4th wall jokes aren't one side). This comic is trying to be serious, making the toxic fan into super villain but doesn't bother to make the current heroes likable (so the story theme come off as hypocrite) nor make it's commentaries fun, just boring and mean-spirited
@@alexandrefrauches132 All of the people involved with the She-Hulk show embody corporate incompetence. Customers have every right to criticize an iteration of a long-beloved character. You don't adapt a character and pretend like you've invented a new one. Adaptation implies a pre-existing customer base. If you're incapable of producing a quality product, own up to it and fix the problem. There are no such thing as trolls; just thin-skinned, overpaid Hollywood industry labor that overestimate their value.
@@StratumPress Yeah, because the "fans" who lost their mind because of scene where Jen tweark or tells about her personal traumas because it hurt their fragile pride are cleary not sexist trolls (sarcasm). Also, adaptation aren't 100% copies of material. They are BASED on them. They are modern reitroduction of this character and for people who already know the original story and also for people who don't read and can be introduce without worrying about context (it's basically what the Ultimate Universe were for new comic readers in 2000). While I don''t think She Hulk was perfect (the humor felt hit or miss and I wasn't big fan of each episode having it own story) I enjoy the series, being a unique type of show in the MCU while being faithful to wacky 4th wall breaking comedic tone of the comics
After it was admitted over at Disney the She Hulk is a direct mockery to fans I know am sure everything happening in comics is now done on purpose. Looks like they are going after Conner Kent as well. All I've got left is Spawn and Anime. Sad.
Haven't kept up with Tim Drake, I know a bit about his background, and remember him becoming Red Robin for a short while, Would it have been better if he stayed that hero instead of the Robin who isn't Damien?
DC really sitting here and saying that the core four has been well managed since flashpoint. If that was case, why have they been pushing them to the sidelines. Tim has had a wild ride since flashpoint because the people at dc don’t even know what to do with the character. DC has been constantly ignoring him so they can focus on the other robins. In the New52, Tim was mostly leading the teen titans than being with the bat family, which isn’t a bad thing, but it felt like it was something for Tim to do. Then throughout most of rebirth, he was imprisoned by Mr. Oz, now he’s back as Robin (which I think is a downgrade, considering his development from Robin to Red Robin during flashpoint), and now they made him bisexual (which I don’t have a problem with, but the way how they made him bi, and how that aspect of the character is mainly focused on comes off as force and pandering). Conner was absent from the New52, and was replaced by a New52 version of him, where being treated like a punching bag. Hell they even disrespected the name “Kon-El”. Where during pre flashpoint and I’m assuming rebirth and now, it was a reference to a founding member of the house of El, who helped Krypton. I’m the New52, the name is used as a slur meaning abomination. Then when real Conner came back in rebirth, he quickly pushed to side because they for Jon, who’s now aged up. Bart was also absent in the New52 and was replaced by a different version named Bar Torr. And when the real Bart came back all of his character development was ignored to make him act like how he was introduced and the legion of zoom storyline, he really hasn’t been relevant since. Cassie’s character in the New52 kinda feel way too edgy. And then she completely absent throughout rebirth, she wasn’t in any of the Wonder Woman book lineup, and wasn’t until Bendis run on YJ where she finally returned and even then she was still irrelevant. Cuz the only Wonder Woman comics she’d appeared in were the Wonder Girl comic that focused on Yara Flor, and the Trail of the Amazon story.
I've said that very often. But I have to say again. From now on I only buy the old comics from Marvel and DC. I don't touch the new stuff anymore. Let me know when they're in straitjackets and on their way to Arkham Asyl.😒
Whatever she is a fan or not does not matter If you want to make your voice heard then do not buy it. She may be a abomination but she is not the only one.
Yara Flor is there because the fans want the focus on Donna Troy and Cassie Sandsmark instead of getting a new Wonder Girl. Tim Fox is there because no one give two Bendises abut Tim Faux-Batman and that hurts the editorial's feelings
The ONE good thing about modern DC was the Titans becoming the New Justice League. But that is a fine line and can go sideways REALLY fast. Aside from that I miss the Rebirth Era. DC tried their best to dismantle that era and literally destroy everything that put DC on top. It's a mess.
1:40 reminds me of a panel form a Marvel comic a year or so back where the dialogue went on and on and on which was just the character moaning and spouting the writers ideological views. Even if the content of the word balloons wasn't obnoxious, who wants a page of endless babbling like that?
I... don't even understand that jumble of word bubbles. It doesn't make sense to me, like I missed out on a whole bunch of context. And I don't even want to know.
I let her know all the time when she post how love Tim Drake or new content for the Titans tv series because they’re introducing queer Tim Drake. I poke holes in the reasoning and explain how and why she doesn’t love the characters or the fan. Tim Drake was never queer coded or bi, Tim whole character development is trying not to be ruthless Batman and his relationship with Stephanie Brown. All Megan Fritzmartin has done is just destroy and damage the young Justice brand and Tim Drake in less than two years. She’s a below mid writer. The whole editorial and Megan have to go.
- Meghan Fitzmartin mocks the fans, ruins Tim Drake.
- She-Hulk writers mocks the fans.
- I’ve taken inspiration from Dok and ended my pull list. These companies don’t deserve my money, time, and devotion to new issues.
- I’ll read back issues. Screw DC
DC editors allowed Megan to openly MOCK and ridicule the long-time fans AND consumers. This is inexcusable.
I watched your Worst of the Week, and it was pretty satisfying to see this was the first book ripped
@@benevolentremnant2949 - It has a very special place in Hell.
It’s also the third such story this week… and it’s only Monday. She-Hulk, the tales of which get worse by the hour. G4. There are already hints that they are planning to spin up the tales of “Racism and misogyny” for Black Panther. The toy licensee ‘s are worried and annoyed by it and are starting to leak.
Business Destruction 101
I just don't know how someone like that calls themselves a writer; I mean, if it's a parody title, sure, write that kind of meta parody and troll your readers. But if it's not? Don't.
It takes time to study the history of characters and get into their heads. So much easier to just pretend like they have no history and just echo all of your personal thoughts. She's lazy on top of being toxic.
Fake it til you make it...
YES!!
@@PhilipAMoore The dialog is right there on the page. He's not taking anything out of context. The current "creatives" at dead company are petty and incompetent.
@@Wes_From_TC So, the fems have invaded DC like they have Marvel and are spreading their H8 to the male fans.
What is there to talk about. Since the fans never do anything about it
@@PhilipAMoore They boiled down stuff we say and make it cynical as possible then put our words in the mouth of a blatantly silly villain to make it seem irrational or bigoted.
Doesn’t help how grimey it is to be dumping on a creation of Peter David while he was struggling financially and having health issues. The editors alone should know better.
They really don’t need to tear down others to build themselves up. She wrote Robin Eternal and that was one of my favorite Future State titles but this Tim Drake:Robin series is no where near the quality of that.
The whole "childhood card" is so played out. We don't necessarily want our childhoods back, or whatever. We want cool characters who are true to what they've been defined as. We want gripping and compelling action-packed stories because the characters are, ya know, SUPERHEROS! We want competent writers, artists, and editors, because, well forget it. If that's not obvious, then I don't know what is.
Well said. If something's truly worth liking (in this case the original Young Justice series), I don't think you ever stop liking it. But the idea that most comics fans are stuck in the past or are suffering from arrested development is ridiculous, especially when it comes from someone working in the industry.
My childhood sucked, had nothing to do with comics. I just want a good product for the money I spend.
@@Wes_From_TC Amen
@@benevolentremnant2949 It's a lazy cheap shot because they're not creative or smart enough to come up with something else.
The problem isn’t that they grew up, it’s that they’re NOT growing up
*10 years from now if anyone picks up this comic in the 50 cent bin*
Reader: Who is Meghan Fitzmartin? I don't see her name in comics.
DC Reader: Those were the Dark Times...
Lol
Forget firing people, DC comics needs a complete change of staff , management, & personal, starting with Jim Lee
Time to clean house!
DC started going downhill way back when Warner bought and put that crazy witch Jenette Kahn in charge. She was the Queen Bee that drove out the good people. As long as those idiots at Warner own DC it will never get better.
Make Tim Drake and Alan Scott straight again - the way they're SUPPOSED to be - and put the rest of Goddamned Justice League Queer here on one of those unnamed Grant Morrison Earths from Multiversity where they can agenda themselves over and over again unto infinity.
And lock Fitzmoron away with Prometheus in the Crooked House away from normal people.
"Fans want characters, not caricatures" - Wes, 2022
But Batman is the biggest caricature
Fitzmartin’s strategy telling longtime core fans to f’ off and walk away worked so well for G4.
@@PhilipAMoore thing? Lower member?
Their*?
@@PhilipAMoore I was confused but I think I get it now
Both Frosk and Blare Harter literally told their own G4TV viewers “Don’t watch us.”
So G4TV’s viewers took their direction and quit watching.
I can't believe how far fans can be pushed before they finally walk away.
Yes, Please fire them all!
Then blacklist them. Thank you.
Fans would support the "diverse replacements" if the writing was good.
Greg Rucka's Batwoman was excellent for example.
GCPD was diverse, and brilliantly written.
Fitzmartin hasn't blown me away with her ideas, so I'm not going to buy her work.
She's like an Incel. Blaming the people who reject her, instead of working on having anything else to offer other than spite.
All these characters are hateful stereotypes now.
They need to fire everyone and start from scratch. They are all Mad I tell you!!!!
Something needs to change!
Don't work. Zaslav has news for these knuckleheads.
I agree with everything said. Meghan Fitzgerald is the worst writer at DC. Her Young Justice and Tim Drake stories were absolutely terrible. The page in issue #5 of Dark Crisis Young Justice was deeply offensive. I've been loyal DC comics reader my entire life and that's what the writer thinks of me. I can't support DC if continue down this path. The best I can do is not buy this crap. Maybe DC will learn that wokeness doesn't sell. DC needs a massive house cleaning.
How does Megan manage to type up a story with her middle fingers constantly up in the air?
Jim Lee knows he'll get the Twitter police on his ass if he does anything. At the slightest mistake, he gets cancelled for his work during the 90s.
I still maintain that Dan Didio and Bendis were the start of the disaster.
There's no doubt that DiDio and Bendis were the catalysts and Lee is soft and a coward. Way to pay back the industry that made him successful and famous, huh?
The rot has been in DC for long time. It's been different from decade to decade, but it's been festering since at least the mid nineties.
i was a doomsayer the moment i heard bendis transfering to dc with the power to bring a team of people of his choosing i though "NO NO HES GONNA MAKE DC WOKE THREW CROONYISM" and then dc was made woke threw croonyism.
Joe quesada
Yup, it's time to fire everyone at DC Comics. And end all of the contractors with all of the creators. Just start Epic Collection and Masterwork lines at DC Comics.
These companies, why would you hire someone that doesn't like your characters and most importantly, hates people they're supposed to write for?
Don't aim so low Wes, Warner Discovery need to fire everyone at DC. Get Jim Lee's a** out of there too while you're at it. Wipe the slate clean and (maybe) start over.
Couldn't hurt...
Bernard had a crush on Tim's stepmom back in the 2000's
Companies: Let's make every existing fan feel like bad guys and call them sexist homophobic white supremacists if they don't like something.
Also companies: Where'd everybody go? Why didn't anyone buy our products? And where are the fans Twitter told me demanded these things?
THANK YOU for this video. I'm a huge Tim Drake fan and I despise what DC has done to him.
The only movement forward with Tim Drake that made sense was his leaving the role of Robin behind and becoming Red Robin PRE-FLASHPOINT. Moving away from the role he broke into with and becoming his own hero. Taking on RA'S AL GHUL! THAT MADE SENSE! This? Changing the sexuality of Tim when he left Gotham City with STEPHANIE BROWN?! The girl that's been the Catwoman to his Batman? STOP WITH THE RETCONNING CRAP BECAUSE IT'S BECOMING A TOKEN MOVE TO SELL BOOKS. And by saying that I'm saying if you want LGBT representation in DC? Create original LGBT heroes that are WRITTEN WELL! ENOUGH WITH THESE CHANGES FOR GOD'S SAKE! It's not just Meghan, it's been a prevalent whole that's plagued the company since the failure of The New 52.
DC Comics and Marvel Comics need to go away until true competent fans take control of these companies and course correct. Until that happens, expect more of this nonsense. It's only going to get worse. The only caveat is that David Zaslav is aware and will more than likely start giving pink slips soon enough. But the damage is done. The future of the big two is intellectual property licenses. DC's and Marvel's days are numbered. It's only a matter of time, pressure, and opportunity.
If I remember correctly, Fitzmartin was hired by Dan DiDio…that explains a lot
Yep
@@Wes_From_TC I swear whenever there is something wrong with DC, I find myself growling DiDio’s name like Newman from Seinfeld, because he is almost always involved in some capacity somehow
@@somerandomsmarta556 he only has one saving point. he kinda looks like mario. lol
@@PhilipAMoore DiDio was also behind one of the WORST comic events with Countdown, he was a major force behind the New 52 reboot, had a major hand in War Games particularly the treatment of Stephanie Brown, he wanted to kill off Dick Grayson during Infinite Crisis, and there is testimony that he hated every aspect of “52” which is regarded by some as a masterpiece. My point is that DiDio did some good, but for me (and many others) he did far more harm.
Yes....that explains a lot
There's a reason I haven't bought a comic in over a decade. I don't give money to people who hate me. Especially if they crow about how much they hate me.
She's seems pretty proud about how much she hates us
@@PhilipAMoore Impulse has always been smart. In fact, with regards to pure information retention, Bart's possibly the smartest person on earth (neither Mr Terrific nor Lex Luthor are able to remember everything they read. Bart Allen does.). Impulse's problem is that he's not clever. Which isn't surprising given that his education during his formative years was created by a Coluan, the species that exemplifies that specific problem.
@@PhilipAMoore But he already was moving past that. Geoff Johns showed us a Bart who takes his role seriously in the pages of Teen Titans. Did subsequent writers ignore his character growth?
@@PhilipAMoore It starts right there in the first arc when Jericho shoots Bart in the knee. That hyperactive superball that Bart's been since introduced in Mark Waid's Flash run starts his growth right away, and keeps growing. The kid who asked the Pope if he was Catholic ("Hey, a lot of my friends want to know!") is turning into an impatient bookworm who is trying to bring his behavior under control.
This writer is using young justice and Tim Drake as stepping stone to show the Hollywood big guys that she can do a show job like writing she-ra princesses of power of other queer based Netflix type show not caring about her audience who do keep her and DC comics in business....when you have people like doc on your show come out and tell your audience that they are done with modern comics that is a sign that modern writers have upset and trolled legacy readers who have had enough of their lazy hateful bullshit stories....
I am so sick of this ignorance and the ridiculous straw man arguments they constantly come up with
They are acting like We don't have Manga and independent comic book writers to replace them.
Rip Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown also Bernard because his creator said he was never gay and had a crush on Tim's stepmother welp.
Pois ele agora é e o choro é livre.
We didn't need to hear that from tne creator because Bernard often talked about how hot Tim's stepmother was. I haven't gone back to read through the issues but from I remember Tim didn't actually seem all that fond of Bernard.
Jim Lee is too busy drawing variant covers and going to red carpet events to care about what's going on at DC..
Seems so...
@@Wes_From_TC he just posted meeting the rock at the black adam premiere...he should have been fired when didio was fired..
Meanwhile, manga, which actually has good stories and creators, has gained so much popularity in the west over the past couple years. To my knowledge, manga creators normally don't belittle their audiences
The only gay characters i had empathy for them were Scandal and Knockout from the Secret Six. They were well written without being preachy.
All these hateful women should be removed from the DC creative team. Think about what comics looked like in the 1970's and do it like that. Just saying...
The hilarious bit about this to me is that because this story's gone full blown meta, nothing about the plot or the straw man argument makes sense.
Not only could Myx Jr have visited the boys anytime he wants, but they were never "replaced" by characters like Yara Flor or Nubia because they live entirely separate lives from each other. It's not like Tim Drake was deposed as Queen of the Amazons when she came along, or Poison Ivy, Harley, and Dreamer somehow took away Connor Kent's spotlight. It'd be like going up to Ya Boi Zack and telling him he's been "replaced" by Kim Kardashian.
Also, we just had a Young Justice series by Bendis, so WTF does Myx mean by "I never get to see you anymore"? They had a hit TV series ffs.
How Does this tie into Dark Crisis?
@@PhilipAMoore They honestly could've just stuck with confronting their replacements and left it there. The idea of having your birthright being taken by someone better is certainly a haunting one... but again, characters like Alan Scott, Nubia, and Dreamer have jack all to do with their lives being ruined and their "stories" not being told.
@@Wes_From_TC It's as chaotic, poorly constructed and pretty much as pointless Dark Crisis so there's that
@@CrisisComics That was a poor jab because they're convinced that the only issue with the characters are race and sexuality (which is why she added Bernard in there too). She (and a lot of other writers) are stuck in the mindset that the ones complaining are just white and straight. The rest of us all "love" the new characters.
@@Wes_From_TC Maybe the in-universe reason that Young Justice's history is being tweaked is that someone from the Dark Multiverse is trying to retcon their history and reshape Earth Prime's timeline by removing their influence from key events (like Kon El and Bart Allen defeating Superboy Prime, or the whole team participating in the Technis Imperative or World War III).
The only catch is that the changes won't become real until the victim believes them, hence the gaslighting with distorted illusions and retellings of the trio's past. If they believe they sucked, it becomes reality.
That entire dialogue of Megan in this comic is a spit in the face of every fan that loves and adores Young Justice and characters like Robin (Tim Drake). I am still pissed at Tim Drake’s change. They hear us but don’t want to change or acknowledge their missteps. Zaslav really need to ax all of these people and start from scratch and get writers and editors that actually care for the titles.
I don't need DC Comics. I don't need Marvel Comics. Batman, Wonder Woman, the Justice League and the Teen Titans are all dead. So I will make my own. Spider-Man, Wolverine, the X-Men, the Avengers, and the Fantastic Four are all dead. So I will make my own. They can't stop me. They never will.
I can't wait for Zaslav gets a hold of DC. The only hope for this company is to totally shut down this continuity and start over from scratch. It's fire sale time. Everything must go.
The best way to restore superboy is to say the boyfriend wth the pink hair actually has hair dye that has pink kryptonite in it....and say the pink k was making him gay.....and restore him to straightness
It’s astonishing how dc allows this woman’s f you to their readership comics get publicized.
I’ll be so happy when she’s gone!
She should already be gone.
It's like they expect buyers/readers to be like reprimanded children and say "You were right. We're sorry and will buy the books"
Why do they keep bringing in writers who didnt read comics???
The people who should be angry are actual LGBT people who're being made into adversaries by the this writer. She's making people agree with the villain.
Can someone explain what this book has to do with dark crisis? 1 issue left and I have nothing
Apparently just the title.
That's a great question
Fire people only if the sales are bad.
It still feels like it's not ok to be a nerd. When you're a true fan, these "cool kids" at DC still treat you like a nerd and tell you your opinion doesn't matter. It's a sad time to be a fan.
We're all disposable chuds to them. In the end, the jokes on them.
@@Wes_From_TC That's definitely what it feels like. I've been reading the older books in my collection, and I almost forgot how fun comics could be. I can't see wanting to have fun with comics as a bad thing. Instead we get writers projecting their emotional issues and not actually working through them.
Cool kids? Lmao they are absolute pea brained Aspergers sufferers
@@Matt_Wilson01 As were many of the "cool kid" cliques that didn't like comics and made fun of kids that did. Now those same people that hated comics work for the major companies. They're hateful and bitter and want everyone else to be the same.
I agree. The climate of modern comics feel so hopeless and it is sad.
Personally, I think after seeing this DC and probably Marvel need to purge all of their female writers, go to Japan and hire a tonne of female Mangaka to replace them all.
Sounds hateful but this issue proves that these people don't care about comics, the characters, their long histories and what they mean to people, so they deserve to be removed from titles.
With female Mangaka you actually get kickass stories and break sales records and yes that is indeed a reference to Demon Slayer, a manga created by a woman that outsold the entire comic business.
So glad i chose to pass on this trash, I was turned off by this the moment i saw stuff from issue 1. She needs to be fired and this story just forgotten about...this is why DC is 1 step away from being outsourced. Such as shame because Superman/DC Comics is why I fell in love with comics. Never should have been pubished, this woman should never be allowed near another DC character again. DC Needs to fix there stuff, I took a break for 2 years from comics for personal reasons and this is what I came back to, sigh, and Marvels not much better either. Welp I'll be ready for the reboot after Dark crisis then I'll be sharing my thoughts on things again too. Keep up the awesome work!
I read this crap so you don't waste your money.
@@Wes_From_TC Appreciate it while I was on break but I did this once and I'll be doing it again for same reasons as you. Look forward to bein back in the comic field soon
I like young justice and I was pissed when they changed Tim Drake's character
DC Comics: Garbage In = Garbage Out
DC Comics in its creative and editorial staff, make me think of that cartoon meme of the dog sitting at a table with his coffee, surrounded by a burning room saying, "This is fine".
I don't know how you managed to keep yourself composed, and speak so well, during this rant. I've loved the DCU for almost 40 years, and I find it hard to articulate, just how much I despise all of these people, and how they, not all the fans, should've been ousted from comics, years ago. There are other jobs, looking for employees that show up for work. Comics and other forms of entertainment aren't for these narcissistic, short sighted losers. They're just not good at it.
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Every panel I see from this era of comics, DC and Marvel, is absolutely pathetic. These "creatives" are parasites on the shoulders of giants.
You are correct in saying this. This is so frustrating to read this and collect your favorite character to be threat like this . She even don't know who they are and you recognize this for how she write the book
You summed up my thoughts exactly Wes! You said it nicer than I would be. But I do agree it's time for everyone to get fired in Marvel and DC comic books at this point because all of the loser writers and editors that are there I'm sick of them bashing on us as fans like you dash on us you talk about that you need new readership or whatever but then you have loser writers like Megan who cash us anything that we're supposed to sit here and take it no. Like it's time to burn it all down because I'm sick of it at this point.
You can only put up with so much.
@@Wes_From_TC definitely agree like this is the straw that broke the camel's back
Jim Lee got kicked upstairs, he's got a tin star badge. Jim Lee leaving DC in the moment would feel good but change nothing, he's the scapegoat. The 10 real people with power need to go and then their "boss" Jim Lee can follow them. If it is just, "Jim Lee was bad and so were these 5 low on the totem pole writers" and they get fired, nothing will change.
Wow Wes, I missed that issue of Tim and Connor holding hands! Obviously DC is on a mission, make EVERY Superboy gay! So thats the next big event. Superboy and Tim Drake hook up and Superboy has to fight DARK BERNARD!
Superman is gonna be SO confused. "What now? My son and my clone?!?! Is this Luthor messing with my DNA?!? BRUCE?!" "Dont look at me Clark, Tims not my son and as far as I know Dick and Damian are just fine....." "But what about you and Ghost...." "WE DONT TALK ABOUT THAT!!! IT WAS A PHASE!" >:)
DC Comics is circling the drain and Discovery is very capable of flushing it completely. People working at DC and people writing DC books really should think about that...
They don't care. In their minds they're righteous and nothing's ever their fault.
@@jaylucien669 Self-satisfaction doesn't mean jack if you can't pay your bills
@@fattiger6957 Man, I'm so ready for that to become the reality again. Because these past few years all these fools have done is fail upwards.
The simplest way to stop these bad comics is to not give them money... stop buying them
I would never buy anything from the big two, they absolutely despise their own fans
This is why I can't see myself buying any DC or Marvel comics in the future. They don't want me - and currently, the feeling is mutual!
she writes lots of crap and disrespects all history of the characters but i´m concerned about the people above her that let this kind of shit be published, we the long time fans literally mean nothing to them
I will not give anymore money to these people .!
Same with Young Justice TV show. It's become a joke.
The character of Halo is just embarrassing. When I described her to my mother of Muslim decent in Bosnia, she asked me if I was high XD. Don't even get me started other garbage from that
I seriously wonder how much of a drop-off in viewer numbers at the end of season 4. And I doubt we'll even see season 5
I've heard that.
Greg Weisman (creator of the show) tried to pull a Tom Taylor claiming season 4 had the highest viewership among all the seasons...... only to tell fans to binge watch YJ on HBO Max months later as an effort to save the show. Makes you wonder, if season 4 was really doing that great and the men in the fancy suits over at WBD had noticed, why the need to bring up viewership again?
I hope that shit gets cancelled unless they start focusing on good stories again. The whole season 4 was a joke. Nothing but lazy writing, tokenism, pandering etc. The fact that they made only the finale action packed shows that they chose to go woke and ruin their stories by choice.
@@nobuhikoss3330 which is why I'm worried for Gargoyles. There's a new comic coming in December. Not to mention that in 2011, he said that one of the Gargoyles is gay 🙄
@@MrLolguy93 oh god.... tbh like what Wes has always been saying: LGBT characters aren't the issue, bad writing coupled with virtue signalling, tokenism and self-inserting in place of where good story plot and character development should be is the issue. But given today's day and age, I wouldn't be surprised if the latter is the route Greg would be going for for Gargoyles. To this day it alarms me because YJ season 1 and 2 was a hit. The story was amazing, the plot twist, character dynamics, and they stayed true to the characters while alao providing their own original spin on things. That was peak writing right there. And these are the same writers who wasted 1 minute of screentime having Zatara Zatanna recite the Lord's prayer and Halo talking about her identity. Not that it was an issue, but how it was written was so forced and inorganic. Not to mention how arrogant and ignorant they handled Halo's identity. They portrayed her through an American (liberal) lens. If they showed that in places like Indonesia, Malaysia, or the middle East, the backlash would be even more significant that millennial cancel culture.
I personally felt Greg already knew from the start the show was never gonna get a season 5, hence Gargoyles would be his backup plan. I don't expect much from that upcoming comic in December. What they always do is hook us on with nostalgia as the Trojan horse to force feed us their tokenism.
@@nobuhikoss3330 precisely
The character Lexington even showed interest in Goliath's daughter, but he "discovers" that he's gay later 🙄
Not to mention the whole critically endangered race situation with ridiculously slow reproduction rate
(3 eggs during 200 years, with each egg taking around 20 years to hatch)
I am done with dark crisis young justice its so bad and a complete trainwreck.
Two more issues of Nice House on the Lake and a few more issues of Fables and I don’t care if DC lives or dies. Just shut the whole company down.
Another one bites the dust...
Conner, Cassie, and Tim were good as the Titans of Tomorrow.
Meghan Fitzmartin was a writer for the last three seasons of Supernatural. That explains so much.
She wasn't a writer. She was a glorified coffee mule.
That's even worse.
I don't understand what happened. It's like everyone working at DC on an editorial level or higher, hate the company and the characters.
I watched a documentary DC put out a few years ago, it came out around the same time the Green Lantern movie did and was narrated by Ryan Reynolds. It was a fantastic documentary but there was a particular part in there that stands out. They talk about how a lot of the creators that came in during the '60s and 70's were actually fans of the characters. It feels like the complete opposite of that now.
My hope is the pendulum swings the other way and soon we'll get a bunch of new creators and that are actually fans of the characters and their legacies. My big worry is that the current creators will burn DC and Marvel to the ground before that actually happens.
Young Justice was such a great book at one time, one of the best things DC put out, the characters deserve so much better.
At this point to be erased from existance would be the best outcome for them.
Best for fans.
DC: “Who owns these characters? Say it!!”
Fan: “Uncle Stinky!!?!!”
Lol
Agreed wes DC really needs to fire these woke writers
Meh, i released long time ago that LGBT hero characters who are cool will be from indie or even other media...characters who are coherent characters who are gay, what even being part of their character it still works.
This people are obsessed with stablished things, like the ComicAlliance article who claim that Captain America being gay can be a great step on representation, what is just bullcrap...
In Dc and Marvel we want to see Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, IronMan, Wonder Woman, Flash, X-Men like Wolverine, Green Lantern, etc...but you can do that with inept writters...worst if they are progs obsessed with attacking fans, labeling them as trolls.
Lets be honest, we like the Young heroes like the original Tim Drake, but we can't leave them as the pillars of DC, worse if we have parasites like Fitzmartin....HOWEVER, respect is the only thing it needs to stay, but i do not see this heroes as "grow up" heroes...it happened with Jon Kent, it will happen with Conner...but let good stories go.
FIRE THEM....FIRE THEM ALL.
Its the only way to say this.
I won’t pick up anything Megan writes because you can tell that she doesn’t know how to develop characters or shape a storyline. She will go if you don’t support her work. Preferably, sooner, rather than later.
So this crossover series and the She-Hulk show are trying to attack their critics but it backfired and proves them all right! I would laugh at that if they hadn’t wasted our time and for the fact that I know that despite their failures to get an audience their still going to be employed
Gotta own the chuds....
At least She Hulk was comedy, self-aware and treat the toxic fans as parody of what they usualy are: Just bigotry "attention seeking" trolls. When they tried to do a super hero vs super villain, she broke the 4th wall, called out how absurd this was and just said "screw that, Kevin! they are just arrest No need to punch them or anything! That's it!". She even made fun of MCU troopes (showing her 4th wall jokes aren't one side).
This comic is trying to be serious, making the toxic fan into super villain but doesn't bother to make the current heroes likable (so the story theme come off as hypocrite) nor make it's commentaries fun, just boring and mean-spirited
@@alexandrefrauches132 All of the people involved with the She-Hulk show embody corporate incompetence. Customers have every right to criticize an iteration of a long-beloved character. You don't adapt a character and pretend like you've invented a new one. Adaptation implies a pre-existing customer base. If you're incapable of producing a quality product, own up to it and fix the problem.
There are no such thing as trolls; just thin-skinned, overpaid Hollywood industry labor that overestimate their value.
@@StratumPress Yeah, because the "fans" who lost their mind because of scene where Jen tweark or tells about her personal traumas because it hurt their fragile pride are cleary not sexist trolls (sarcasm).
Also, adaptation aren't 100% copies of material. They are BASED on them. They are modern reitroduction of this character and for people who already know the original story and also for people who don't read and can be introduce without worrying about context (it's basically what the Ultimate Universe were for new comic readers in 2000).
While I don''t think She Hulk was perfect (the humor felt hit or miss and I wasn't big fan of each episode having it own story) I enjoy the series, being a unique type of show in the MCU while being faithful to wacky 4th wall breaking comedic tone of the comics
@@alexandrefrauches132 Her "personal trauma" from men finding her attractive. Give me a break.
Ughhhh Conner and Tim can’t be best friend without the people asking them to be gay.
Preach Wes, brilliant insight commentary on these so called writers/destroyers of the genre.
Thanks 👊
After it was admitted over at Disney the She Hulk is a direct mockery to fans I know am sure everything happening in comics is now done on purpose. Looks like they are going after Conner Kent as well.
All I've got left is Spawn and Anime. Sad.
Pour one out for Conner Kent...
I used to say that Damien Wayne was like a fanfic writers OC, now comics are just becoming slashfic
Haven't kept up with Tim Drake, I know a bit about his background, and remember him becoming Red Robin for a short while, Would it have been better if he stayed that hero instead of the Robin who isn't Damien?
DC really sitting here and saying that the core four has been well managed since flashpoint. If that was case, why have they been pushing them to the sidelines.
Tim has had a wild ride since flashpoint because the people at dc don’t even know what to do with the character. DC has been constantly ignoring him so they can focus on the other robins. In the New52, Tim was mostly leading the teen titans than being with the bat family, which isn’t a bad thing, but it felt like it was something for Tim to do. Then throughout most of rebirth, he was imprisoned by Mr. Oz, now he’s back as Robin (which I think is a downgrade, considering his development from Robin to Red Robin during flashpoint), and now they made him bisexual (which I don’t have a problem with, but the way how they made him bi, and how that aspect of the character is mainly focused on comes off as force and pandering).
Conner was absent from the New52, and was replaced by a New52 version of him, where being treated like a punching bag. Hell they even disrespected the name “Kon-El”. Where during pre flashpoint and I’m assuming rebirth and now, it was a reference to a founding member of the house of El, who helped Krypton. I’m the New52, the name is used as a slur meaning abomination. Then when real Conner came back in rebirth, he quickly pushed to side because they for Jon, who’s now aged up.
Bart was also absent in the New52 and was replaced by a different version named Bar Torr. And when the real Bart came back all of his character development was ignored to make him act like how he was introduced and the legion of zoom storyline, he really hasn’t been relevant since.
Cassie’s character in the New52 kinda feel way too edgy. And then she completely absent throughout rebirth, she wasn’t in any of the Wonder Woman book lineup, and wasn’t until Bendis run on YJ where she finally returned and even then she was still irrelevant. Cuz the only Wonder Woman comics she’d appeared in were the Wonder Girl comic that focused on Yara Flor, and the Trail of the Amazon story.
For Cassie Sandsmark, wouldn’t she remember that she is Zeus’ daughter instead of being Zeus’ granddaughter post-Infinite Frontier?
They need to hire you to run dc comics for real good vid brother
exactly why I stopped giving DC and Marvel my cash. I am done with the bs
I've said that very often. But I have to say again. From now on I only buy the old comics from Marvel and DC. I don't touch the new stuff anymore. Let me know when they're in straitjackets and on their way to Arkham Asyl.😒
Whatever she is a fan or not does not matter
If you want to make your voice heard then do not buy it.
She may be a abomination but she is not the only one.
Never have I seen such boldness for a cause so wrong.
I think nobody cares about DC comics at this point
Yara Flor is there because the fans want the focus on Donna Troy and Cassie Sandsmark instead of getting a new Wonder Girl. Tim Fox is there because no one give two Bendises abut Tim Faux-Batman and that hurts the editorial's feelings
I am gonna crack open a cold one the day DC gets closed. They deserve it. And I have the entire Batman, Superman, Beyond, Justice League on DVD.
The ONE good thing about modern DC was the Titans becoming the New Justice League. But that is a fine line and can go sideways REALLY fast. Aside from that I miss the Rebirth Era. DC tried their best to dismantle that era and literally destroy everything that put DC on top. It's a mess.
I feel bad for liking the Layoffs at DC.
I'm not supporting DC or Marvel until things are fixed.
DC and Marvel will not be fixed.
1:40 reminds me of a panel form a Marvel comic a year or so back where the dialogue went on and on and on which was just the character moaning and spouting the writers ideological views. Even if the content of the word balloons wasn't obnoxious, who wants a page of endless babbling like that?
I... don't even understand that jumble of word bubbles. It doesn't make sense to me, like I missed out on a whole bunch of context. And I don't even want to know.
Gotta remember. Nothing a writer for DC will put out anything that is not approved or has not been mandated by editorial.
That single panel show everything wrong with modern DC books.Zaslav needs to clean the entire house and start again.
I let her know all the time when she post how love Tim Drake or new content for the Titans tv series because they’re introducing queer Tim Drake. I poke holes in the reasoning and explain how and why she doesn’t love the characters or the fan. Tim Drake was never queer coded or bi, Tim whole character development is trying not to be ruthless Batman and his relationship with Stephanie Brown. All Megan Fritzmartin has done is just destroy and damage the young Justice brand and Tim Drake in less than two years. She’s a below mid writer. The whole editorial and Megan have to go.
Time for Zaslav to sharpen the axe.
Or grab a plunger! 🪠 💩🚽
I stopped reading DC Comics decades ago when they began to get woke.
What did they do Bart Allen?
Regress into Impulse (even though he’s too old for that) and having artists draw him as a kid/high school teen.
DC baffles me. They have plenty of new characters with tons of potential, but they don't know how to book them.
To be fair, they don't know how to book the old ones either.
Blind leading the blind.