As a pilot, you have to be verbally cleared through the bravo, just because he was talking to her doesn’t mean he could enter the bravo airspace! He’ll be getting a phone call!
@@larrymaxwell5535 because bravo airspace is only around very busy major airports. Regular GA flights don’t need to interrupt commercial operations to save a few minutes. The airspace and the controllers are busy and that pilot is going to lose their certificate.
I think for Bravo airspace you MUST have been given clearance by the tower to enter. Can't enter just because you are in communication with the tower. Pretty sure that pilot ended up either making or receiving a phone call.
@@Novafro I have my commercial, and yes, you are correct. He established communication. But that only works for Charlie or Delta. Not Bravo. He must also hear the words “You are cleared to enter the Bravo.” He most definitely received a number to call which probably resulted in minimum… a Pilot deviation. If not a revocation of his certificate for his own negligence.
well KEVIN, IF IT LANDS because an idiot ON "ground crew forgot to check" the fuel or EXTERNAL tank switch. THAT WOULD cause an AUDIT and a fine. Very similar to HOW US postal service ARE auditED.
That's exactly right. That would be the adult way to handle it. Went on on this recording was unprofessional on both sides. Both should be punished accordingly. They are not professionals no matter what profession they claim to hold
@@heidilefevre2680 I would argue the controller was completely professional. You can't see her radar screen or the amount of traffic she has to reroute, possibly in a hurry so this dickhead can have a childish pissing contest he WILL NEVER win. Kind words take a back seat when lives are on the line and someone wants to play god because they have a small penis.
@@ruthannjonesmistler9722 I dont remember 100% (from when i saw the full clip/report, but i think he wasnt replying the first few times she contacted as well
@@Granpireit doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsane I disagree - an uncleared aircraft in the bravo poses a huge risk to traffic in the area. Luckily she noticed him flying through the airspace, but she was under no obligation to clear him as he was committing a dangerous violation. He dangerously increased the controller's workload and distracted her from her duties, she was justifiably upset.
@@Logicalsaneit’s not disrespectful and rude to refuse to give in to the demands of a pilot who is not following procedure. It is not disrespectful and rude to do her job and maintain control of the airspace.
The person on the radio had no responsibility to anyone but himself. He was likely flying a single engine small prop aircraft by himself. The aircraft landing in the video has nothing to do with radio transmissions.
@@AZ-xw5yb I've heard similar pilot/controller conversations and they all seem to have a similar theme. Of course, most small plane pilots are just great, but others, like the one in this clip make the "friendly skies" dangerous to the rest of us. For some, getting their pilot's license and a plane causes a sense entitlement and a loss of brain cells. The title "Air Traffic CONTROLLER" should have been a clue to this pilot.
@@spencer.kissack.the.author he flew a small airplane. It’s not speculating. He is under visual flight rules. Meaning not on an instrument flight plan, since they don’t need a bravo clearance. He is also alone. It’s a small prop plane.
This in actual ATC recording, its quite famous in the pilot/atc community. This guy got into some major trouble for this, if I remember correctly his license was revoked as it should have been. All he had to say was "my mistake I thought I heard I was cleared through the Bravo, exiting Bravo now", once he exited he could then asking for bravo clearance and it likely would have been given to him, or he could have notified them of his intention to go "negative bravo" which is where you fly under the bravo "shelf".
@@Logicalsane she did her job, the other pilot knew this too. It is extremely strict as they're controlling so many planes they have to make sure none crash into others. If the rule is to request and recieve clearance, she didnt give it and therefore he needs to do as told and stop whinging
@@Logicalsanewow, you really have your panties in a bunch because all your comments mention that the controller was a female! Why the need to keep mentioning her gender? The pilot probably had the same issue which is why he decided he didn't need to listen to her!
I bet he didn’t even get a number, my guess is the FSDO called him. There are letters, then there are phone calls, that’s gonna be a phone call for sure.
@@notcosteffective9920 Haha, I’d already said it in my head too. Actually, it took twice as long to work out ‘whatever that was’ than to write the word.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsane her job is not to kowtow to pilots, her job is to keep air traffic flowing smoothly and safely. She is not below the pilots, they are obliged to listen to her and follow instructions, barring only emergency situations. He is literally ignoring instructions and entering airspace that is likely already occupied. He is being irresponsible and putting his plane & others at risk!
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsane Hmmm…ok. So she should just let any old asshole go barreling through Class B airspace, because he “asked” 10 minutes ago, while she was busy? That’s all fun and games until she has to tell 250kt airline traffic to avoid the childish douchebag in the 90kt Cessna.
@@Logicalsanelet me guess. You think pilots are superior to atc? She did nothing wrong. He entered bravo when he wasn't supposed to and she clearly couldn't have him there. Atc dictates what goes on otherwise accidents happen.
You have no idea about previous conversation...shut up.. you have a plane full of passengers, if he is wrong or not , the lives of the people are more important
I've heard the whole thing in another video. The pilot was in the wrong. In the end he got a number to call which apparently is bad! Another pilot explained it in a video.
OMG, I'm listening to this on loop and it just keeps on giving. The smug "I'm inside!" and petulant "50 *miles* ago!", the way the controller has to explain how this works, the two-syllable "No" as her patience wanes, the way it degenerates into "Yes!" "No!" "You're a doody-head!" It's like a whiny kid sore loser contesting a rounders "out" with the teacher. Absolute gold.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsane I don't think you get that Bravo airspace is the busiest of airspace, full of commercial flights each with hundreds of passengers. The controller has no ego. She's speaking with urgency because thousands of lives are at stake due to this guy bringing in airspace he's not authorized in.
@@Logicalsanehad she not been assertive and a boing 787 crashed because of this Pilot, would you feel the same? Or would you say that she wasn’t assertive enough?? 🙄 Your misogyny is showing.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
Learning you need to be CLEARED into bravo airspace is private pilot written exam material. Establishing radio contact is sufficient for class charlie (with registration number acknowledgement by ATC) but not bravo. We've known this for about 35 years now. He needs a violation or a revocation. This was all changed due to PSA flight 182 on September 25, 1978 at San Diego as well as the Aeromexico midair in Cerritos, CA in 1986.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@bellatempesta91it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@LogicalsaneI wonder if you'd say the same if ATC was male. Probably not. Everyone here with any kind of experience in aviation says that he is in the wrong. 😉
A guaranteed test question on every private pilot written exam is what is required to receive clearance to enter bravo airspace. The correct answer has to have something along these guidelines. A conversation with control does not constitute clearance. Clearance must be directly granted to any aircraft regardless of size prior to entering bravo airspace.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
You can enter Class C or D towered airspace if you’ve established communication with the tower. In class Bravo airspace that’s not enough. You must hear the words “Aircraft ***** CLEARED INTO CLASS BRAVO.” This is why doing your training in a busy complex airspace is advantageous.
@@sistewit doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@evancarsharksautogroup9352 Evan I ask this respectfully…. WTF does this have to do with politics? Also, pilot was 100% in the wrong and was torn to shreds when this first came out.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@dippledopple I wish the thumbsdown button actually worked. The guy either has no clue what he's talking about or is one of those lunatics who thinks that pilots are superior to atc
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@sallygoodin2848 class b is where all the big jets are. He's endangering lives just being there. Accidentally clipping it will get you a talk with FAA and they'll have the radar and voice recording. So with that attitude he may never fly again. At minimum a 1 year suspension if he hadn't used the word no.
@@bryanelam6128 - If it were just a simple error on the pilot’s part, he may get away with a warning and no certificate suspension. The FAA will suspend certificates for repeat or egregious offenses.
@@badlaamaurukehu -“She” (ATC) is the one that authorizes clearance into the Bravo. If the (he) pilot is VFR, then the pilot must get and repeat back a verbal clearance from (her) ATC to enter the Bravo. Regardless of how long they have been talking.
With an attitude like that he has no right to hold a pilot's licence or be at the controls of an aircraft. He's a threat to ever aircarft in the vicinity. Unbelievable!
That is absolutely ridiculous when a controller gives you instructions you follow them. You do not argue with an faa ATC controller when they tell you to do a left hand down win or they tell you to follow a certain pattern you do as you told.
The former pilot apparently got confused about class C and class B. In Charlie, just talking to a controller lets you in. In Bravo, you need explicit clearance to enter the airspace.
Yup, violation of bravo airspace is a one-year suspension automatic, you can't even really fight it second offense is permanent suspension of pilot's license. This is because you could have caused a passenger plane accident and many people to lose their life. The fact that he needed bravo clearance pretty much tells you that it was a small plane. He might have gotten confused because certain clearances only require you to talk to a controller however bravo clearance requires you to talk to the controller and hear the words that you have received clearance to enter bravo airspace.
I’d rather fly with a pilot using “inappropriate language” than one refusing to leave restricted airspace and sounding like a whining little brat. Hope he lost his license
It's actually pretty hard to lose your license unless he's been fucking up a lot. You either gotta do something really major or do a lot of little things. And this, while horribly inappropriate, is still a pretty minor thing. Now, if he had not been cleared and hit another plane...... 😳
@@B3NJAM3S I DID watch the whole video. By the way, I see where I might have been misunderstanding if there were two planes. That plane at 0:28 --- is that the same plane with the pilot or is it that so-called "second" plane? I thought that the plane at 0:15 was the one with the pilot landing and then, at 0:28, the video did a kind of time wrinkle by backtracking to the plane's previous state in the sky about to land. I don't know which is which. They both look identical which led me to believe it was the same plane as in the beginning of the video. Once again: Which is which?
@@B3NJAM3S Without narration I can't sort out what's happening in this video. I have Asperger's syndrome and I have difficulty sorting through what other people can't sort through. Having Asperger's syndrome is also why I can't participate in gainful employment and am on disability income.
Not sure why there is people on the ground near an airport with shoulder fired rockets? That's just dumb and not at all realistic. Probably not even realistic around the White House. Those would probably be tube launched from a fixed AA battery.
@@kelzcliveit doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@jshotwell454 the controller controls the Bravo. That’s why the title of their position is Air Traffic CONTROLLER Unless you’ve declared an emergency you must follow every command they give related to flying inside the Bravo. Period. If you’ve declared an emergency the controller might not know how bad your situation is so your plane might not be capable of turning (insert heading) towards runway 03L. You might be tumbling out of the sky with minimal glide range but you think you can put her down somewhere else so you tell the controller where you’re going and they do their best to clear it or at least alert all other traffic
@@jshotwell454 - The only options are that the pilot is having a male-Karen moment. Or, he has completely forgotten the rules of VFR flight in controlled airspace.
@@desertdog185 ty! I assumed it had something to do with following up on him disobeying and not having explicit clearance, but I have never heard of the uh-oh phone number.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsanedude, why did you paste this like 100,000 times? not only is it irrelevant to like 90% of the things youre posting it on, its not true either lol
Maybe its not a airspace.. No matter what its the controllers fault... for not ensuring positive control and for not ensuring that the pilot didnt go where he was not suppose to
@@loopmpr6882 Are you high? You think controllers have remote controls to guide planes where they have to go if the pilot still doesn't listen? You're a clown.
@@omgaming9471 they have radar or visual contact...if you think about it pea brain for a minute and the job title is Air Traffic Controller..so anytime a aircraft ends up where they were not suppose its the controllers fault..even when instructions are given not to do a a certain thing...controllers are suppose to double check to ensure that their instructors were being complied with.. You dum dum..
This Pilot of 1NR must immediately be stripped of all his Pilots Certificates, period! He complains about language because someone calls him out on not following the Law. It’s unacceptable!
The channel VAS Aviation has the full exchange. It was at Las Vegas I believe. The 1NR is a small plane that was wanting to pass through the airspace that is near the airport. The airspace is known as Bravo airspace and access to it is strictly controlled by ATC. He requested clearance to enter, but was denied entry by the controller. He decided to enter anyway, where he disrupted the operations of flights into the airport. This clip picks up right after the ATC did an emergency divert call to an incoming United Airlines flight. She told the small plane to vacate the airspace immediately, at which point you saw his response. The exchange ends with the pilot being told to copy down a phone number, which is one of the worst things a pilot can hear. It means they will have an investigation and hearing with the FAA over a violation of flight safety. The most severe consequence being the revocation of their Pilot's License.
@@firstname9954 Not for violations of flight safety like this though. The most severe consequence this pilot could face is the revocation of their license.
I heard the follow-up to this a while back. The guy had his young daughter with him and she was very sick with motion sickness, as in puking all over the inside of the cabin. Long story short he wanted to land as quickly as possible and had encountered several delays in doing so. It doesn't make it right but I can empathize with him. I originally thought he was a collosal a-hole but after hearing the whole backstory at least I could understand why he was acting the way he did.
@@drw1926 A kid puking doesn’t mean you can do what this pilot did. Pilots have died in flight and the co-pilot still safely lands the plane. The pilot was ripped into shreds when this originally happened
@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 - The video and the audio are completely unrelated. What type of aircraft and pilots are unknown except for the original pilot. He was in a small Cessna.
The only thing I would have done as the controller to check all the boxes was to ask if he was declaring an emergency. His resulting "negative" would have sealed his fate because he couldn't later go down that road when under review. His misunderstanding of the rules between Class B and C air spaces is failure, not the controller's. He should have followed her order immediately and exited.
He thinks because he was talking, even without any response, he now has clearance to do whatever he wants. He's the kind of asshole that finds a lunchbox in the company breakroom fridge, and because he doesn't see anybody's name on it, he just eats it himself. He knows he wasn't given permission, but since he wasn't told no, he takes that as a yes. Suspend his license. He's a danger to everyone in the air and on the ground anywhere near him.
Theres a portuguese architect called Tomás Taveira, he made the most famous sex tape in Portugal ,in 1989, you can see him telling to his sex partner ....its all insiiiiiiiiide
My boss and I were in convoy, over the CB he asked, Where are you? I said, at the front of the truck He turned to his father & said, We'll never get any sense out of him tonight
I think he actually got away with it. just apologized and some bs excuse about having his kids onboard and the stove was on. some kind of bitchslapping sentence might be appropriate.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@MrT------5743 yes it would...I am just saying I understood the reference and I can't be further from being a pilot just from 74Gear's ATC vs Pilots stories.
@@MrT------5743 You are completely misunderstanding what I am saying. I know it is the ATC that tells the pilot and I can see the original comment is the other way around. I even said "yes" meaning I agree with you that it is ATC to the pilot not the other way. But all I was saying in my original comment was that I understood the reference "write down this number" and I am not even a pilot. I am sure the person who made the very first comment about it just made a mistake in switching the roles when he typed but I'm also sure we all understood the reference technical accuracy notwithstanding.
That random " you're an asshole" lol
Yep, from the copilot 😅
😄🤣😅 Endless Ripple
And the reply, "she's being that!" 😂
He actually had clearance to land. So be careful what you write LOL. And you on the spirit of stupid. That's a demon by the way
😂😂😂
As a pilot, you have to be verbally cleared through the bravo, just because he was talking to her doesn’t mean he could enter the bravo airspace! He’ll be getting a phone call!
I hope my dude has a nasa report in his flight bag
What's a big deal about the Bravo clearance! Why can't she clear him through!
@@xmuggsyx Its all web reported today
@@larrymaxwell5535 because bravo airspace is only around very busy major airports. Regular GA flights don’t need to interrupt commercial operations to save a few minutes. The airspace and the controllers are busy and that pilot is going to lose their certificate.
He must be confused with Class C where you only have to make radio contact to be in the airspace.
"How to have your pilot's license revoked and all of your flight time and training zeroed out with this one easy step."
@R. A. nope. Pilot clearly at fault
@@mowtivatedmechanic1172 care to elaborate? Genuinely asking lol
I think for Bravo airspace you MUST have been given clearance by the tower to enter. Can't enter just because you are in communication with the tower.
Pretty sure that pilot ended up either making or receiving a phone call.
@@Novafro I have my commercial, and yes, you are correct. He established communication. But that only works for Charlie or Delta. Not Bravo. He must also hear the words “You are cleared to enter the Bravo.” He most definitely received a number to call which probably resulted in minimum… a Pilot deviation. If not a revocation of his certificate for his own negligence.
well KEVIN, IF IT LANDS because an idiot ON "ground crew forgot to check" the fuel or EXTERNAL tank switch.
THAT WOULD cause an AUDIT and a fine.
Very similar to HOW US postal service ARE auditED.
A simple “apologies, please direct me out of Bravo” would have smoothed things over immediately
That's exactly right. That would be the adult way to handle it. Went on on this recording was unprofessional on both sides. Both should be punished accordingly. They are not professionals no matter what profession they claim to hold
@@heidilefevre2680 I would argue the controller was completely professional. You can't see her radar screen or the amount of traffic she has to reroute, possibly in a hurry so this dickhead can have a childish pissing contest he WILL NEVER win. Kind words take a back seat when lives are on the line and someone wants to play god because they have a small penis.
Disagree! Sounds to me she had an attitude from the get go! 😮
Well if she didn’t have an attitude I’m sure it would’ve gone that way
@@ruthannjonesmistler9722 I dont remember 100% (from when i saw the full clip/report, but i think he wasnt replying the first few times she contacted as well
I would kill to be in the room when he opens that letter from the FAA suspending his license.
If you google the pilot's tail number, someone posted a recording of his call to tower. He was so apologetic and polite in contrast to this recording.
@@Granpireit doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsane I disagree - an uncleared aircraft in the bravo poses a huge risk to traffic in the area. Luckily she noticed him flying through the airspace, but she was under no obligation to clear him as he was committing a dangerous violation. He dangerously increased the controller's workload and distracted her from her duties, she was justifiably upset.
@@LogicalsaneYou’re delusional. It’s a busy airspace
@@Logicalsaneit’s not disrespectful and rude to refuse to give in to the demands of a pilot who is not following procedure. It is not disrespectful and rude to do her job and maintain control of the airspace.
FAA has entered the chat 😂
That was the FAA who called him an a**hole
Jk jk. I know it was another pilot
Controller: "stand by to copy a photo number to call."
When Male Karen’s are pilots…
Then FKN GET IT!!!! 15 MILES AGO? GET THE FKN CLEARANCE!!!!
FAA has entered the comms
"Negative what?" Hahahaha!!!
I was waiting for him to say “negative… ma’am?”
@@jnjshubert I was thinking "Negative, sir," but that's really stirring the pot.
I was expecting smth like a bofa joke variant
@@elizabetholiviaclark Emotions, they kill.
Sounds like me at work, when one of my clients gets on my last nerve...
It's scary when ppl in such responsible situations act so childishly
The person on the radio had no responsibility to anyone but himself. He was likely flying a single engine small prop aircraft by himself. The aircraft landing in the video has nothing to do with radio transmissions.
A vehicle is a vehicle and even a cycle is mortal if not used responsibly
@@AZ-xw5yb
I've heard similar pilot/controller conversations and they all seem to have a similar theme. Of course, most small plane pilots are just great, but others, like the one in this clip make the "friendly skies" dangerous to the rest of us.
For some, getting their pilot's license and a plane causes a sense entitlement and a loss of brain cells. The title "Air Traffic CONTROLLER" should have been a clue to this pilot.
@@spencer.kissack.the.author
The main clue is in the title. "Air Traffic CONTROLLER"
@@spencer.kissack.the.author he flew a small airplane. It’s not speculating. He is under visual flight rules. Meaning not on an instrument flight plan, since they don’t need a bravo clearance. He is also alone. It’s a small prop plane.
This in actual ATC recording, its quite famous in the pilot/atc community. This guy got into some major trouble for this, if I remember correctly his license was revoked as it should have been.
All he had to say was "my mistake I thought I heard I was cleared through the Bravo, exiting Bravo now", once he exited he could then asking for bravo clearance and it likely would have been given to him, or he could have notified them of his intention to go "negative bravo" which is where you fly under the bravo "shelf".
@@Logicalsanecause he was in a small plane and there were other big planes with people there who were now in danger
How come another comment said nothing happened to this guy, and he was apologetic?
@@Logicalsane she did her job, the other pilot knew this too. It is extremely strict as they're controlling so many planes they have to make sure none crash into others. If the rule is to request and recieve clearance, she didnt give it and therefore he needs to do as told and stop whinging
Is it possible that he's just an idiot, and confused Bravo with Charlie? B/c Charlie really does work the way he seems to think that Bravo works.
@@Logicalsanewow, you really have your panties in a bunch because all your comments mention that the controller was a female! Why the need to keep mentioning her gender? The pilot probably had the same issue which is why he decided he didn't need to listen to her!
“ One November Romeo, I have a phone number for you to call…”
Oh no...
“I know the number! I’ll call when I get on the ground”
... when you're ready to copy
I bet he didn’t even get a number, my guess is the FSDO called him. There are letters, then there are phone calls, that’s gonna be a phone call for sure.
"Is it a 900 number?" Master Bates
Basic rule of aviation - NEVER argue with ATC!
Rule 1, atc is always right.
rule 2, if they are wrong, see rule 1
ATC does not rule the sky. They are such sissies and scared of ATC stick up for yourself, but this guy was a total asshole by the way.
"I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue." 😜
LOL!!! That's perfect!
😆🤣💀
“Do you like gladiator movies?
@@woohunter1 Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
Classic comment
That pilot sounded like he was a fifteen year old saying to his parents, ‘You’re not the boss of me!’😂. Whoever said ‘you’re an a..h..e’ is a legend.
Controller sounds like a b**ch!
It did 😂😂😂
U can just spell out asshole since u already made me say it inside my head by reading whatever that was.
@@notcosteffective9920 Haha, I’d already said it in my head too. Actually, it took twice as long to work out ‘whatever that was’ than to write the word.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
That's not the plane that is communicating with ATC. It was a small private plane that needed to stay out of commercial air traffic.
Even the other pilot calls him out lol
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsane her job is not to kowtow to pilots, her job is to keep air traffic flowing smoothly and safely. She is not below the pilots, they are obliged to listen to her and follow instructions, barring only emergency situations.
He is literally ignoring instructions and entering airspace that is likely already occupied. He is being irresponsible and putting his plane & others at risk!
@@Logicalsanetell us you're an incel, without telling us you're an incel
@@LogicalsaneShe also isn't being rude at the pilot, dude lol
@@Logicalsanewait ATC has a fragile ego because they are enforcing the rules when the pilot doesn’t follow them?
He will have had such a cosy chat with the FAA over that conversation.
The ATC doesn’t tell me what to do, I tell me what to do!
He sounds like Naplolean Dynamite. “I’ve been talking to you this whole time, gosh!!”
“I requested clearance like 15 miles ago, gosh!”
How to lose license speed run 💀
I think he thought he was talking to his Mum
Trever Jacob enters the chat
he kept it got a warning he was in a 210
@@birdman4274 oo 😆
How to file for unemployment. Bitch was wrong.
I’m guessing he got everything he ever wanted for Christmas as a child.
Except punched in the face, which he clearly needed.
I did, and I regret it.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsane Hmmm…ok. So she should just let any old asshole go barreling through Class B airspace, because he “asked” 10 minutes ago, while she was busy? That’s all fun and games until she has to tell 250kt airline traffic to avoid the childish douchebag in the 90kt Cessna.
@@Logicalsanelet me guess. You think pilots are superior to atc? She did nothing wrong. He entered bravo when he wasn't supposed to and she clearly couldn't have him there. Atc dictates what goes on otherwise accidents happen.
To clarify, the aircraft was a small prop plane, not an airliner
I would assume, Controller and Pilot are married. I get some vibes, from this Recording. 😂
So true lol
😂😂😂 and the last guy maybe is mommy’s son
No
Negative. He was just inside.
Nah, he’s just trying to get her number 😉
That was in the LAX Bravo about three years ago. The private rated pilot got his certificate revoked.
Oh wow. So he’s a private pilot in class B airspace giving shit to an LAX controller. That’s not gonna end well buddy.
I think it was Vegas, actually
It was Las Vegas bravo not LAX but yes the idiot got his licence revoked
Good!
@@JRNation8988 Henderson more specifically
"That's not appropriate language..."
While flying into unauthorised air space...
And Calling her an a-hole
You have no idea about previous conversation...shut up.. you have a plane full of passengers, if he is wrong or not , the lives of the people are more important
I've heard the whole thing in another video.
The pilot was in the wrong. In the end he got a number to call which apparently is bad!
Another pilot explained it in a video.
@@JaneDoe-ci3gj 😂😂😋
@@zebra3962 Moron, "the lives of px'ers is important. That's why their are RULES! His ass probably got fired and fined.
OMG, I'm listening to this on loop and it just keeps on giving. The smug "I'm inside!" and petulant "50 *miles* ago!", the way the controller has to explain how this works, the two-syllable "No" as her patience wanes, the way it degenerates into "Yes!" "No!" "You're a doody-head!" It's like a whiny kid sore loser contesting a rounders "out" with the teacher. Absolute gold.
Did you hear the one about the pilot that lost his pilots license? He forgot that everything was recorded and decided to land without clearance.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsane I don't think you get that Bravo airspace is the busiest of airspace, full of commercial flights each with hundreds of passengers.
The controller has no ego. She's speaking with urgency because thousands of lives are at stake due to this guy bringing in airspace he's not authorized in.
@@Logicalsanehad she not been assertive and a boing 787 crashed because of this Pilot, would you feel the same? Or would you say that she wasn’t assertive enough?? 🙄 Your misogyny is showing.
@@miraid06Indeed.
Also he is copy-pasting this comment everythere. Probably challenged...
@@Logicalsane oh a man triggered by a woman in charge, sorry but she did her job, the guy was the jerk here and was rightly punished for it
"That is not appropriate language!"
Sounded like perfectly appropriate language to me!
Entitlement is an amazing thing
The pilot sounds like 10 year old unruly child arguing with mom.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsanei wonder now if you're just saying this on repeat to try and annoy people, she wasn't out of line in the slightest lol.
weekend warrior gonna get into his F350 when he lands.
Second pilot just said what he knew ATC wanted to say and couldn’t because ATC was being professional. 🤣👏🏻 Give that pilot a beer haha.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@LogicalsaneFemale controller wasn't disrespectful, check your facts before opening your "mouth"...
Learning you need to be CLEARED into bravo airspace is private pilot written exam material. Establishing radio contact is sufficient for class charlie (with registration number acknowledgement by ATC) but not bravo. We've known this for about 35 years now. He needs a violation or a revocation. This was all changed due to PSA flight 182 on September 25, 1978 at San Diego as well as the Aeromexico midair in Cerritos, CA in 1986.
I remember that PSA crash, horribly sad.
"I'm not ready to copy, I'm flying"~ 1NR
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
Classic 😂😂😂
Language may not be appropriate but the assessment was accurate
😂
😂🏆your comment wins!!😂
@@bellatempesta91it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsanei don't think you understand how atc works
@@LogicalsaneI wonder if you'd say the same if ATC was male. Probably not. Everyone here with any kind of experience in aviation says that he is in the wrong. 😉
"That is not appropriate language."
"Neither is refusing to follow instructions from ATC, you jackass."
Who are you quoting
@@donnydont Me, if I'd been on that channel 😆
The next sentence should have been "got something to write with cause i got a phone number for you to call"
Nobody cleared you through bravo but me. So, she gave him clearance? They both seem clueless
@@rt-uh6mt i think she says nobody "clears" you into bravo, the subtitles were just wrong i assume
A guaranteed test question on every private pilot written exam is what is required to receive clearance to enter bravo airspace. The correct answer has to have something along these guidelines. A conversation with control does not constitute clearance. Clearance must be directly granted to any aircraft regardless of size prior to entering bravo airspace.
Sounds like a Crybaby who hasn't been told no yet
If he's endangering outbound air traffic he won't be able to fly a kite
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsanedude, why did you paste this like 100,000 times? its.. not even remotely true lol
You can enter Class C or D towered airspace if you’ve established communication with the tower. In class Bravo airspace that’s not enough. You must hear the words “Aircraft ***** CLEARED INTO CLASS BRAVO.” This is why doing your training in a busy complex airspace is advantageous.
Eh... no you can't. You need a specific clearance to enter C & D too.
@@sistewit doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
Utter shite. Here's some kleenex, wipe away your tears. You need an ATC clearance to enter Class C & D.
@@Logicalsaneyeaahhhhhhh, you've copied and pasted this a whoooole bunch but it isn't getting more true thru repetition haha
I agree with the pilot who made the comment at the end. 😂👍❤️
@@evancarsharksautogroup9352
No to both and I didn't vote for Trump either. Care to try again?
🤣😂❤️
@@evancarsharksautogroup9352 Evan I ask this respectfully…. WTF does this have to do with politics? Also, pilot was 100% in the wrong and was torn to shreds when this first came out.
@@strnglhld yep. Hillary did it. Took control with Hunter's laptop. So, Binden did it after all.
@@evancarsharksautogroup9352 Are you intoxicated sir?
When a narcissist has a pilot license
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@LogicalsaneWhy are you copy and pasting this under every comment 😂 are you secretly the pilot?
@@dippledopple I wish the thumbsdown button actually worked. The guy either has no clue what he's talking about or is one of those lunatics who thinks that pilots are superior to atc
He's obviously a misogynist lol this isn't that hard
Great way to get your wings clipped.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
Moral for men: "Always ask for clearance before putting it Inside "
And the "Bravo" especially!!😄😄
You have to "request" a Bravo clearance 😅
Does her biting her lip indicate implied clearance?
😂😂
@@jshepard152 🤡
LOL!!!!...Bravo!...Bravo!....Bravo!..When I soloed at a multi runway ATC controlled apt, the folks in the tower were extremely polite.
Your next words after negative better be declaring an emergency or you are gunna have a bad day
yep, unable would've bought him a minute
What do they do to pilots that ignore Atc instructions like that?
@@sallygoodin2848 class b is where all the big jets are. He's endangering lives just being there. Accidentally clipping it will get you a talk with FAA and they'll have the radar and voice recording. So with that attitude he may never fly again. At minimum a 1 year suspension if he hadn't used the word no.
@@bryanelam6128 - If it were just a simple error on the pilot’s part, he may get away with a warning and no certificate suspension. The FAA will suspend certificates for repeat or egregious offenses.
@@deanfowlkes Is repeatedly telling ATC "no" egregious?
His "I've been talking to you the whole time, that's the whole point of talking to you" .... they sound so much as a married couple
😂 they really do though lol
She should have never been cleared for ATC. Period. Bravo Clearence or not.
@@badlaamaurukehu ?
@@badlaamaurukehu -“She” (ATC) is the one that authorizes clearance into the Bravo. If the (he) pilot is VFR, then the pilot must get and repeat back a verbal clearance from (her) ATC to enter the Bravo. Regardless of how long they have been talking.
HE HAS TO LAND.HE DUMPED HIS FUEL BITCH..
With an attitude like that he has no right to hold a pilot's licence or be at the controls of an aircraft. He's a threat to ever aircarft in the vicinity. Unbelievable!
Thats how a pilot lose his licence in 1 minute, nice job
And i believe he actually did and had his plane for sale a few months later
@@rollingacresfarmstead206 proof or Shadap!
Wrong 😂
squawk code needed
@@rollingacresfarmstead206 Nope. He’s still flying. Look in the comments if you don’t want to believe me.
And meanwhile whilst we're arguing don't worry about that a380 that's about to land on top of you
Right!
No one is landing on top of him. Shut up
@@zebra3962 yep because a380's have TCAS and couldn't be anywhere near him.
EASA and FAA : mr pilot come here baby
Whoever is on 1NR's side. Please never get your pilot's license for the safety of everyone in this world.
That is absolutely ridiculous when a controller gives you instructions you follow them. You do not argue with an faa ATC controller when they tell you to do a left hand down win or they tell you to follow a certain pattern you do as you told.
The former pilot apparently got confused about class C and class B. In Charlie, just talking to a controller lets you in. In Bravo, you need explicit clearance to enter the airspace.
Former?
The license will most likely be revoked.
Yup, violation of bravo airspace is a one-year suspension automatic, you can't even really fight it second offense is permanent suspension of pilot's license. This is because you could have caused a passenger plane accident and many people to lose their life. The fact that he needed bravo clearance pretty much tells you that it was a small plane. He might have gotten confused because certain clearances only require you to talk to a controller however bravo clearance requires you to talk to the controller and hear the words that you have received clearance to enter bravo airspace.
OH "" FORMER".ANOTHER ONE BIT THE DUST.
Still that is punishable language from that woman. Prison. She us trying to kill people. She enjoys it.
I’d rather fly with a pilot using “inappropriate language” than one refusing to leave restricted airspace and sounding like a whining little brat. Hope he lost his license
It's actually pretty hard to lose your license unless he's been fucking up a lot. You either gotta do something really major or do a lot of little things. And this, while horribly inappropriate, is still a pretty minor thing. Now, if he had not been cleared and hit another plane...... 😳
@@since1876 he lost his license.
@@since1876 “private class pilot had his certificates revoked. Restricted Bravo sections are a serious thing apparently.
@@since1876 Saying No to ATC could get you there
THE ONLY ONE THAT CLEARED YOU THROUGH BRAVO WAS ME. AHAHAHA AHAHAHA LOL
CLEARS. She is informing him that she is the only one who gives him permission. Captions are incorrect. You have to listen instead of read.
“I’m going to need you to copy down a number, possible pilot deviation”
The co-pilot just entering the argument😂😂
That’s another plane that is on the airport frequency
@@SaltyChip I think lad was just making a joke) of course it was some pilot from some other plane :-)
@@SaltyChip not a airport frequency that’s a approach controller
Are y'all scared to fly yet
I think that second pilot summed this guy up perfectly
What second pilot? There was only ONE pilot in this video.
@@MyNathanking Erm… no, read the bit that says “other pilot” on the transcript who insults the first pilot… there’s TWO! 🙄
@@MyNathanking if you'd have watched the video you'd see there is infact TWO
@@B3NJAM3S I DID watch the whole video. By the way, I see where I might have been misunderstanding if there were two planes. That plane at 0:28 --- is that the same plane with the pilot or is it that so-called "second" plane? I thought that the plane at 0:15 was the one with the pilot landing and then, at 0:28, the video did a kind of time wrinkle by backtracking to the plane's previous state in the sky about to land. I don't know which is which. They both look identical which led me to believe it was the same plane as in the beginning of the video. Once again: Which is which?
@@B3NJAM3S Without narration I can't sort out what's happening in this video. I have Asperger's syndrome and I have difficulty sorting through what other people can't sort through. Having Asperger's syndrome is also why I can't participate in gainful employment and am on disability income.
“One November Romeo, you have FOUR shoulder fired rockets locked on you, and they have tone.
You have 5 seconds to begin your exit. 3, 2, 1………
This comment is hilarious because I just finished watching top gun haha 😂
He could evade the rockets. It’s those pesky feds waiting at the terminal with handcuffs drawn that he will be destroyed by.
😂😂😂
Not sure why there is people on the ground near an airport with shoulder fired rockets? That's just dumb and not at all realistic. Probably not even realistic around the White House. Those would probably be tube launched from a fixed AA battery.
@@kelzcliveit doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
"Negative" 'I'm going to do what I want to do, I don't need to communicate to ATC' is the attitude I got from this lmao
Tell that to the KLM pilot in Tenerife. Oh wait that a hole killed a whole bunch of people.
'Grab a pen Cap'n. I have a number for ya' 🤦♂️
Me and my wife when I’m trying to lay pipe:
🤣🤣🤣 lmao. Dying. Every line now. "That's the whole point of talking to you!"
@@davidlamb1107 LMAO! You always need clearance to enter the bravo.. everyone knows that.
@@desert4seat back door bravo or anal alpha ✌️🤣
@@daviedood2503 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Omg your killin me, that was hilarious 🤣
Pilots being Karens is one of the scariest things to come to my mind.
No air control being Karen's are.
He did sound like some of the videos where the Karens are telling store employees and then cops, that they don't have to leave and won't be arrested.
I would not put this on the pilot being a Karen.
@@jshotwell454 the controller controls the Bravo. That’s why the title of their position is Air Traffic CONTROLLER
Unless you’ve declared an emergency you must follow every command they give related to flying inside the Bravo. Period. If you’ve declared an emergency the controller might not know how bad your situation is so your plane might not be capable of turning (insert heading) towards runway 03L. You might be tumbling out of the sky with minimal glide range but you think you can put her down somewhere else so you tell the controller where you’re going and they do their best to clear it or at least alert all other traffic
@@jshotwell454 - The only options are that the pilot is having a male-Karen moment. Or, he has completely forgotten the rules of VFR flight in controlled airspace.
I’ll take “phone numbers you never wanna hear” for 1000 lol
Buddy had to take down a phone numberrrrr 😂
were you drunk when you typed that
ATC will give you a phone number to call after you land. That is never a good thing.
What?? Lol
What is the number to the Flight Standards District Office?
@@desertdog185 ty! I assumed it had something to do with following up on him disobeying and not having explicit clearance, but I have never heard of the uh-oh phone number.
This is what happens when society gives out participation trophies at kid’s soccer games.
I heard my mom when she said "Negative what?!?!"
I hope you enjoyed that pilot license while you had it.
Good point.
The ATC would of been fired for that language though. And we didn’t get their previous transmission.
@@320STSMZ
No, they wouldn't have. 😉
@@320STSMZ That wasnt the ATC cussing. That was another pilot.
He’ll be fine
Let me know when you have a pen handy. I'm going to need you to write down a number... 💀
If this is the video I'm thinking about He said something along the lines of "No I'm not calling." Saw it on 74 Gear
@@katrinascarlet5637 ☠️, i am not a pilot, but thats not gonna go over well
@@katrinascarlet5637 Not ready to copy, I'm flying!
My wife also doesnt give clearance for "class B"🤣
I couldn't get you...can you please explain a little?
Conversations like these always tend to restore my faith in the people who have our lives in their hands.
He knows he did wrong, the way he says I’m inside like a question 🤣
“I’ll take one emergency revocation please. And could I have a drug and alcohol test as a side?”
She should be drug tested the f-Bch KAREN
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
@@Logicalsanedude, why did you paste this like 100,000 times? not only is it irrelevant to like 90% of the things youre posting it on, its not true either lol
She controls the airspace. He seems to have some major authority issues.
Gotta get consent for sex, gotta get consent to enter the Bravo Airspace 😂
Totally agree.
I have the same issue when the authority has a vagina..
@@lovetofly32 You're not alone.
Ex-atc here, she was correct. You cannot penetrate class B without a clearance, although, in my day, radio contact implied approved entry.
Maybe its not a airspace..
No matter what its the controllers fault... for not ensuring positive control and for not ensuring that the pilot didnt go where he was not suppose to
@@loopmpr6882 Are you high? You think controllers have remote controls to guide planes where they have to go if the pilot still doesn't listen? You're a clown.
We need previous exchange to get a clear picture.
@@omgaming9471 they have radar or visual contact...if you think about it pea brain for a minute and the job title is Air Traffic Controller..so anytime a aircraft ends up where they were not suppose its the controllers fault..even when instructions are given not to do a a certain thing...controllers are suppose to double check to ensure that their instructors were being complied with..
You dum dum..
@@TheKetsa nope ...most of the fault is tge air trafffic controller
This Pilot of 1NR must immediately be stripped of all his Pilots Certificates, period! He complains about language because someone calls him out on not following the Law. It’s unacceptable!
Napoleon dynamite on the controls. GOSH. JUST CLEAR ME THROUGH THE BRAVO
So this pilot is willing to put other aircraft and many other lives at risk, Simply because his impatient, He should lose his pilot license.
actually, this exchange occurred when he was past the point of "go-around", so in effect both he and the controller are wrong.
@@adotintheshark4848 he should've never entered it in the first place without clearance so only he is wrong in this case.
@@adotintheshark4848 he can power up at any time to get back in the air. They practice touch and goes for that exact reason.
@@adotintheshark4848 Touch and go’s and go arounds, are the first thing we learn as pilots, to could have manoeuvred at any point
Probably the audio and video are unrelated.
He's concerned about language at that point 😂🤣😂🤣
ATC should have advised, "No. Exit or be reported for license revocation."
YOU DIDNT EVEN HEAR THE BEGINNING TRANSMISSIONS
It's not ATC's job to remind pilots how everything works though:/
ATC does jot have the authority to revoke a license.
I would still like to hear the full audio from when they first communicated. it probably won't change much but it might be a mitigating factor.
The channel VAS Aviation has the full exchange. It was at Las Vegas I believe. The 1NR is a small plane that was wanting to pass through the airspace that is near the airport. The airspace is known as Bravo airspace and access to it is strictly controlled by ATC. He requested clearance to enter, but was denied entry by the controller. He decided to enter anyway, where he disrupted the operations of flights into the airport. This clip picks up right after the ATC did an emergency divert call to an incoming United Airlines flight. She told the small plane to vacate the airspace immediately, at which point you saw his response. The exchange ends with the pilot being told to copy down a phone number, which is one of the worst things a pilot can hear. It means they will have an investigation and hearing with the FAA over a violation of flight safety. The most severe consequence being the revocation of their Pilot's License.
@@firstname9954 Not for violations of flight safety like this though. The most severe consequence this pilot could face is the revocation of their license.
I heard the follow-up to this a while back. The guy had his young daughter with him and she was very sick with motion sickness, as in puking all over the inside of the cabin. Long story short he wanted to land as quickly as possible and had encountered several delays in doing so. It doesn't make it right but I can empathize with him. I originally thought he was a collosal a-hole but after hearing the whole backstory at least I could understand why he was acting the way he did.
@@catherineeveleigh1584 You made that up. This guys’ wife and child were on the plane with him. In fact, his company is called “Wife Approved LLC”.
@@drw1926 A kid puking doesn’t mean you can do what this pilot did. Pilots have died in flight and the co-pilot still safely lands the plane. The pilot was ripped into shreds when this originally happened
I’m just glad no one involved had to check anything on Google during the approach.
"thats not appropriate language!" lol
It's not a bar. It's a guy flying a commercial airline. The protocol is to be professional.
@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 - The video and the audio are completely unrelated. What type of aircraft and pilots are unknown except for the original pilot. He was in a small Cessna.
The only thing I would have done as the controller to check all the boxes was to ask if he was declaring an emergency. His resulting "negative" would have sealed his fate because he couldn't later go down that road when under review. His misunderstanding of the rules between Class B and C air spaces is failure, not the controller's. He should have followed her order immediately and exited.
Thanks for making sense to a non-pilot
No one, I mean no one, has full authority, now shut up
So could he have safely exited the bravo? At this point isn't it safer to let him land and contact FAA!
@@maryblester213 no an yes
Entitlement above common sense, and safety...smh!
He thinks because he was talking, even without any response, he now has clearance to do whatever he wants.
He's the kind of asshole that finds a lunchbox in the company breakroom fridge, and because he doesn't see anybody's name on it, he just eats it himself.
He knows he wasn't given permission, but since he wasn't told no, he takes that as a yes.
Suspend his license. He's a danger to everyone in the air and on the ground anywhere near him.
Bravo Bravo. Can’t We All Just Bravo Along.
747gear needs to see this one.
74gear did a video about this like 3 or 4 months ago.
@@AviationNut can you link it? I gotta see that
@@AviationNut I didn't know he did a response to this video already ahaha 😅🤣😂
Ya I’m totally rethinking flying anywhere!!!
Napoleon Dynamite is flying planes.
That is hilarious!!!!!
Sounded just like him
Omg 😂😭😂😂
He stretched the radio cord all the way down the aisle thru the seats and is talking from the airport restroom.
I think the best thing about the radio is knowing you can interject randomly without identifying yourself.
The way he says “I’m inside” always makes me cringe. 😂
Theres a portuguese architect called Tomás Taveira, he made the most famous sex tape in Portugal ,in 1989, you can see him telling to his sex partner ....its all insiiiiiiiiide
Sounds exactly like a spoiled child, it’s uncanny
My boss and I were in convoy, over the CB he asked, Where are you?
I said, at the front of the truck
He turned to his father & said, We'll never get any sense out of him tonight
Something tells me he doesn't talk to male controllers that way
He probably got his pilot's license revoked by the FAA
I think he actually got away with it. just apologized and some bs excuse about having his kids onboard and the stove was on. some kind of bitchslapping sentence might be appropriate.
You thunk...if he's a liberal..nope
@@sharongilley8393 or a Trumpy, he would got a Pardon.
@@Asoka-great well if he was a Dem, je wouldn’t need one bcs clearly they are above justice lol
10/4.
Did the ATC deny clearance into Bravo or not? If the Pilot did request clearance, why didn't ATC verbally deny or approve Bravo clearance?
"Nobody cleared you through the Bravo but me."
“Nobody ‘clears’ you through the Bravo but me.” Captions are incorrect.
it doesn't matter what he did... that female controller needs to be punished.....she had no right to be disrespectful and rude.. its literally her job to handle such situations by being respectful and professional and by putting her fragile ego aside...
Automatic one year suspension of license. A second incident like this, you get a lifetime suspension.
How do they issue the suspension? Do they come off the tower with a ticket book?🤔😏😂😂
@@jeffreyelliott5094 The FAA.🤔
This guy should get a lifetime suspension after his shitty attitude
You get a nasty letter from the FAA telling you you are suspended for up to one year. That’s about it.
That is going to get his ass grounded for quite awhile....
I would hope it would get her ass fired.
Hope so
he should be arrested IMHO.
Let’s hope the type of grounded you mean isn’t plane into dirt
No it's not
And its not.. and it didn't 🤣🤣🤣
That whole incident could have been disasterous
A big part of her job is safety. This pilot needs training again.
This guy needs his license revoked immediately. Totally unacceptable, unprofessional, and dangerous.
Flies by with middle finger toward control tower
Pilot: i gotcha bravo clearance right here
Pilot to the control tower "Do you have a pen? Write this number down."😂
I'm not even a pilot but I understood this just from watching Kelsey on his TH-cam channel 74Gear. I'm proud of myself 😁😅
@@princejbc2003 it would be the other way around though. Duh!
@@MrT------5743 yes it would...I am just saying I understood the reference and I can't be further from being a pilot just from 74Gear's ATC vs Pilots stories.
@@princejbc2003 so you are saying the Pilot would tell ATC to write down their own number? It's ATC that wants the Pilot to call them.
@@MrT------5743 You are completely misunderstanding what I am saying. I know it is the ATC that tells the pilot and I can see the original comment is the other way around. I even said "yes" meaning I agree with you that it is ATC to the pilot not the other way. But all I was saying in my original comment was that I understood the reference "write down this number" and I am not even a pilot. I am sure the person who made the very first comment about it just made a mistake in switching the roles when he typed but I'm also sure we all understood the reference technical accuracy notwithstanding.