The whole mls is a plastic league made out of marketing and consumers It’s another corporation No culture for the sport, no history, no identity some clubs even want to change cities due to lack of support
They gotta start somewhere ryte...the question of when did you start following/supporting a club does not matter... We all started somewhere... European,Asian, American doesn't matter.... these fans supported the club at the very start of it all...how many of European Football Clubs supportes can claim that...
Most european clubs were started by the people, e.g Hajduk Split was founded back in 1911 by a couple of students from Split, while your teams are made by corporations looking to suck money out of the people
look chaps, us brits do not hate you lot,we like that you're getting stuck in. and understand that the travelling makes it hard. keep going. though somtimes the chants are a bit embarassing
@@jamiemidge4983 Just looked into it and it's not lol thank goodness lmao. I mean the ‘I believe that we will win’ chant is a fun little thing, but gaaaah damn it's over used
Damn, not a single mention of the Toronto-Montreal rivalry? One of the most heated in the league that is one of the few that is actually rooted in differences in culture, not to mention geography and politics? Hope we get some coverage on that soon!
T tba Exactly! Strange to highlight fabricated rivalries over one of the few TRUE rivalries that has existed between two cities before the MLS was even a league!
I think this was a collab between C90 and MLS. Wouldn't surprise me that Garber hates Canada. Maybe its because we both play on grass, on real fields, not like the retards down south. Who knows. Either way the Cup is coming to Canada
evan NYRB was originally the NewYork/NewJersey Metrostars. The ownership change happened in 2006. The club still actively admires our past and so do our fans. My issue with NYCFC is that their fans are a bunch of douchebags. In our US Open Cup match against them in June they literally broke a whole row of seats in our arena. They claim to be a real club when they don’t have a real stadium and a consistent fan base. Their attempts to find a new stadium have been pathetic. They share stadiums with the New York Yankees (baseball team). This season the Yankees performed surprisingly well and made it to the playoffs. One of their games coincided with NYCFC so they had to play somewhere else. The “experienced and qualified professionals” at NYCFC decided to move their game to over 2 hours away in a different state. They are one of the biggest laughing stocks in the league, and only exist because of sheikh mansour.
Kemarinhoo The games that coincided with NYCFC were never supposed to be played in New York. They were supposed to be in Tropicana in Tampa Bay, except Hurricane Irma made it unsafe for players and fans to go to the stadium. That's why they had to be moved.
The first club to reach the CONCACAF Champion's League semifinal was from NYC in *1984* a feat that would not be matched until RSL in 2010. Want to guess the club? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the Cosmos :)
@@supersun0079 RBA average attendance is 19,000 where as NYCFC average attendance is between 20,000 to 25,000 on both baseball stadiums I wouldn't brang about it
Andrew Yeah that derby trophy thing is pretty american. The same happens in college football. I'm of the thinking that if it doesn't hurt the game, it's cool
I used to thought like that. But considering they have to pay $200++ million for expansion fee and built football specific stadium. The pro-rel were still far away. But in the other side, without pro-rel this league will always be a joke
Sorry but a football league without relegation does not feel right to me. It's a handout league. You can only win something and not lose anything. That's not football. In football you also need the pain of losing something.
dramatish and if their was a relegation they would have more teams wanting to win the league for once and not have the same teams versing each other every year
just face it no one gives a shit about the mls it’s where are players retire because of the nice weather and it’s not that good a league since players who can no longer perform well enough in our leagues go to the mls so it’s time for the mls to stop thinking it’s the shit cuz no one gives a shit about it and no team will ever be better than Europe teams because there is no trophy to be won which matters unlike champions league premier league
I'm from America and I agree. Although the Cascadia cup has already happened on its own pretty much. That goes back several decades before MLS was even founded.
They dont have the financial ability to. Part of the reason for that is that there is no national tv coverage of the 2nd tier here. At least i havent been able to see it. I cant even watch Indy Eleven games and theyre the biggest club in my state. The people in charge here dont want to create a culture around the game, they just want profits. Hopefully within the next few decades the literally thousands of clubs in the US will all have a fair chance.
Daniel van Maanen...Americans don’t get football violence. But Europeans didn’t until about 1998. England created this football thug culture but the authorities called us “The English Disease” whenever it kicked off. All over the BBC and radio if a fan even runs into the pitch now. They’ve ruined it in England’s Premier League. You have to go to the Championship and lower leagues for the non plastics now. Sheffield Utd have just been promoted so maybe they can do some old school thuggery. Real fans love it.
Jamis Ins Europeaans didn’t before 1998? You know that ultra’s and hooligans groups from Serbia, Greece, Germany, poland etcetera. Already exist for 50 years...
Geertje Me niffo so why did British fans do what they wanted all over Europe before about 98? We’re the European Ultra and hooligan groups you mention not bothered? Maybe they were happy to see English thugs take the piss out of the foreign stadiums and cities? Why did English fans do what they wanted with no opposition for decades?
Carlo Clemente is that why Italy were banned from European competition in the 80’s then! Italy have never even been in the Premier League of football trouble. Italy have absolutely no name or reputation. In fact...as most English thugs will tell you...Italy are known as melts. 20,000 British soldiers took OVER 1 MILLION Italian soldiers in North Africa during the war. The joke about the shortest book in history being “Italian war heroes” or what colour is the Italian national flag? White! For surrender. And do you know what many Italian (Roma for one if I recall?) fans used to do? On their mopeds they’d drive up behind the opposition fans with Stanley knives and cut behind the knee. Why? Maybe so they can’t be chased? Those are all facts. Give me one back. By the way mate...Ultras are embarrassing. Face painting, drum banging flag waving nonsense. Which suggests to real hooligans that Italy just don’t get it. And they never did. Which glory team do you support mate? Jive? AC? Inter? Lazily?
If you're a football fan you would be encouraging this not trying to knock the league down sure it might not be the best but it has improved and it will continue to improve
Football is a global sport and thats what makes it beautiful. Thats why I've got no time for people degrading the MLS and Football in America. From a british man , keep doing what you're doing America. As long as the fans believe in the club, the MLS will one day reach the heights of football.
im also british, wolves fan lol gotta be said, and I keep up with the MLS week in week out and I love it. now all I want is the best for the mls and usmnt (usmnt cos I love it when us football haters get proven wrong)
I dont think the mls is that bad, the playoff system is shit and the defence is as bad as Liverpool's sometimes (I support them incase u didnt know) but some of the attacking players that ive seen are pretty good
I dont watch the mls, i think te whole idea you cant be promoted and relegated ruins it from the get go. That being said any true football fan should want any league in any country to prosper and showcase talent. Thats why it's the beautiful game
One of the advantages of not having relegation is every team has a chance to win. The MLS has different champions because they have financial rules to prevent a team from buying the best players available. To MLS fans, it’s worth it rather than seeing the euro leagues have the same damn team win all the time.
Well no, because the league would be simply to big and also you would have big teams such a LA going up against teams who go for a kick about at the park every Sunday
HazardlyNP I feel like the main reason why there is no promotion or relegation in the MLS is that there just isn't enough popularity to create enough teams for multiple tiers/leagues. Soccer just doesn't have the same influence here that it does over in Europe. With any luck that will change in time, but for now, we're happy with what we have.
That's just how pro leagues are here in the United States. You don't drop level of play if you lose the league. It's impossible for the NFL since there isn't a lower league. Question, are college/university sports a big deal in the UK like over here, or no?
I'm not the biggest MLS fan but credit where credit is due. The league has progressed a lot since its conception. As someone who has attended matches in both Europe and the US, the quality of play and the fan culture obviously isn't near the level of say the Prem or Bundesliga but it's rapidly growing. Big ups to the MLS and its supporters. Don't listen to all the haters that have no idea about the league and only hate on it due to their irrational biases. No MLS fan acts like they're on the same level as the bigger leagues, guys. 😑
Renko I find it funny how New York City was built and people actually left red bulls to support city and now the same snakey supporters are cheering on city at derbys lol
I'm not a MLS hater but u can't tell me the football is decent quality Calibre of players yes, but tactically and intensity wise I'd say a lot of Asian leagues are better
I'm not sure about that The defence across the league is lacking and most of the time it's depending on raw talent Even Howard can't save Rapid's non-existant defence line
Craig Miller I mean. Most of those white people are descendent of English people. ENGLABD BLEW A 13 COLONY LEAD. We ended you guys and we'll gladly do it in sports. Just like the first time. It takes time.
@@luisrosales9349 Never will that happen in football. MLS is full of players who have retired and its too competitive. No clubs getting relegated etc. I mean your national team is in shambles losing to the worst teams in the world.
Because they say they’re just as good as any Euro or even Mexican team, but all they do is sign retiring players and try to quicken the growth. Football is the number 1 sport in the world, the MLS will soon be the number 1 sport in America, it’ll take years, but that’s fine. MLS is just trying to rush it.
Because teams such as Atalanta United are buying their way to success. No german club except Red Bull Leipshit bought their way to success. You support a club because of its success. We support clubs because we love them and we have a lot of history
MLS, in my opinion, can't beat a team like Bayern Munich, but definitely could beat Sunderland and Amiens. MLS is probably on the level of the Championship.
@@robinwillmann6693 a lot of our teams don't just come out of nothing. They start out in another league, like NSL, then eventually get picked to join MLS. So it's not fans saying "oh look, I chose to support this new team" but rather fans from when it was an NSL team following them to MLS. Like all 3 Cascadia teams did.
KingShadow11 yea & they sold their identify, tradition & history to a shitty drink company to get the same things that other clubs are getting without selling their souls . It's as disgusting as that shitty drink they're selling.
they said its the only league where you win a trophy for winning a derby game. Derby county and Nottingham forest play there is the Brian Clough trophy
The real New York team is neither NYCFC or NYRB, but NY Cosmos... That team has more history than those 2 combine. The likes of Pele and the Kaiser once played for that team. Bring that team to MLS.
You fucked it up when you mentioned Pele. And true. NY Cosmos should come back and maybe rebrand a little. Also, New York RB should rebrand to Newark RB or something
Mesut Özil exactly. They see that Kaka plays here and immediately say no to all the talent from around the world who are nurtured on our academies and then play in Europe.
A big part of rivalry in any sport is history; the history between two teams. Portland vs Seattle, Toronto vs Vancouver are on the throne for biggest MLS rivalries as of 2019. In 10 years I see LAFC vs Galaxy and FC Cincinnati vs Columbus dethroning those two rivalries.
Also if you hate the playoff system, what's the difference between the mls playoffs and the liga mx playoffs. I don't see people saying liga mx is terrible
Wally West because some teams dont deserve to be in the playoffs, a team that has less points than another team in a different conference somehow makes it to playoffs, not fair for the teams
I don't hate the MLS but I'm sure sick of hearing about it. I'm from Australia and the A-League has its moments but I don't expect the larger football community to be that interested. It's like the US Copa90 fans can't let it go that the rest of the world just isn't that interested, which isn't that unusual for a non-European, non-champions league competition. The reality is the most interesting leagues are where the higher stakes are, where the biggest prizes can be won which is most definitely European football. Like I said I don't hate it, I'm just not that interested and I don't particularly appreciate lots of MLS content being thrown in my face.
Honestly, the amount of dick measuring and attention seeking that goes on with MLS is a fuckin embarrassment. I've seen the word "cringeworthy" being tossed around these comments. Quite accurate.
Kinda feel this way about the Liga Mx. I know it will never be the biggest league in the world , because it will always be in Europe. However, I watch Liga Mx the most it has the most value to me.
Jared Raymer You are totally right and anyway that is not the North american way, in Europe people only breath soccer (or football if you want) and a bit about Rugby, so they will still support the team if it's relegated. In north america people do not care about only 1 sport, depending on the areas we care about 4 major sports more than soccer, Football (american), Basket ball, Hockey and Baseball. Relegations would never work because as soon as a team would get relegated a lot of people would stop to care about it and go back watching the other 4 sports.
I do not understand how most European football fans can express so much hatred for American soccer Do you honestly think that if the only football leagues were in Europe, you could call the beautiful game a GLOBAL sport? People go around saying that Football is the greatest sport on earth, and yet you bash on North Americans for wanting to enjoy the sport as much as you do, where is the logic is that? Its like telling someone about something that you find amazing, peeking their interest, convincing them of said thing value but then every time that person tries to enjoy the same thing you deem so enjoyable , you get in their way and reprimend them for it. Im not saying that the MLS is anywhere close to the quality of the EPL but that shouldnt negate the fact that North America is a mixing pot of cultures, cultures from parts of the world that enjoy/love football, it is their right to express the same amount of love for the sport that everyone else has, that being in the form of an organised league. Im Canadian #HalaMadrid
Andre Dibo Amany we don’t bash you for enjoying it we bash you for the way you do, it’s too commercial and you’re forcing rivalries and when you should just sit back and let them happen organically Derby county and Leeds united have no link other than they were both at their peak at the same time and have a rivalry because of it, idc that you have no history we didn’t once,
I support my local team (LA Galaxy) because it is the place I've grown up, and I don't care who funds them, as long as I get to watch them play and support them with my fellow LA residents.
Enigmatic In defense of RB Leipzig, they won promotion from Germany's lower leagues, unlike these new MLS teams that didn't have to win a place in their league. Besides it's not like RB Leipzig is any worse than any of the big name clubs in Europe, which the majority have big corporations behind them- just like RB Leipzig. So stop with the "pot calling the kettle black".
One of the challenges shared by MLS and the A-league in Australia is geographic vastness of both countries meaning away fans are in small numbers. Both Australia and the US also have other sports that are traditionally far bigger e.g. the AFL and NRL in Australia/MLB, NBA and NFL in US. But credit to the fans in this video, they clearly have a deep connection with their club.
who the fuck cares about league one no one mls may not be as big as the epl but more people watch the mls then league one is it even played on tv my point is you made a really shitty point
As an American, fans don't really even care about the regular season. Every game mean so much to teams in Europe because only one team wins. As where in the mls 12 teams make the playoffs, thus making the regular less important.
Any MLS team would get rattled by a European team for example Newcastle would destroy any club in the MLS they are just way more competitive so yeh deal with it. Glory Glory ManUnited😈❤
Satierdeen as a Newcastle and Chicago Fire fan. I’d like to point out the following. 1. Newcastle lost at full strength to Sporting Kansas City in 2012. 2. Chicago was beating Man U’s starting 11 until we brought in the rookies to give them the experience. 3. Chicago, Toronto, NYCFC, and Cascadia would survive in the BPL. Not saying they’d win it, but they’d avoid relegation. Besides, if Leicester can pull a league win out if their ass after avoiding relegation, what’s that say about the quality of your league?
American football is as yet young, underdeveloped, slightly confused, and sadly it came into the world at a suboptimal time (with the rise of the super rich owners) but I'm enjoying watching it grow and develop. I think American soccer fans (yes, I'm using both. Get triggered) need to let it grow organically, and let the sport come first and the atmosphere around it follow that. And for the love of all that is holy, stop putting so much emphasis on the foreign players and focus on American talent. That's the REAL way to ascend both as a league and as a Football/Soccer nation
Not triggered, your just wrong. Football uses peoples feet, soccer is what Americans call football. The rest of the world is right and you are wrong. But we’re not triggered. Just baffled.
If you came out to a game than I think you would feel differently. Also it's not like we're born into a team. For instance there are multiple clubs in London. If someone lives in Montana than who are they going to support?
I have nothing against the MLS, but WHY EVERY FUCKING VIDEO ITS TALKS ABOUT THE MLS AND THEIR FANS, I know football is growing in the US. But you guys overlook at the MLS, I know that the USA is the most popular country and the world etc, but come on almost every video its talks about MLS , You guys should just rename yourselves Copa 90 MLS. Why don't you guys talk about the Belgium League fans or even Japan ultras, it is getting boring because it is always showing the same kind of video which is showing people football culture and the US, We get it, it is growing but this channel is overlooking at the MLS.
The MLS will never truely be great unless they care about everyone there are clubs like my club D.C. united who were one of the original ones in 96 and have been very successful in the past and have been shoved aside and forgotten by the league to cater to the New York teams, the LA Galaxy and the soon to be LAFC and other teams who can afford these big soccer specific stadiums and better DPs.
To see the MLS grow gives me so much joy, not to mention, pride! I mean we're talking about a league that has been around since the early 90's but really had to earn the right to get where it has today. There aren't a lot of countries that have other sports dominate the media like the U.S., and yet we have a pride as Americans and Canadians to see our level of play grow and our supporters passionately support something that means more to them than just another sporting event. We all love this game, who cares about who has the best league, it should always be about progress no matter what continent you're on.
Joseph Garcia Garber...Garber cares about MLS being the best league. He literally said he wants MLS to be one of the top leagues by 2020. This isn't the first time he's made goalpost for this either. For him it's more about making the sport big to make more money than progress. He used to work for the NFL, he's used to working with the best.
😂 😂 😂 😂 mls is a retirement league. Most fans in the US support a player over a club. How many Americans claimed they were Barcelona fans and then became psg fans when neymar Jr went to psg. That American golden boy in Germany as well jezze America your not relevant in football. Your players are lazy and lack the hunger to learn and play in Europe. Which is the best way to go for your players. Learn how its done in Europe and go back to the mls and take that experience and develop players.
just face it no one gives a shit about the mls it’s where are players retire because of the nice weather and it’s not that good a league since players who can no longer perform well enough in our leagues go to the mls so it’s time for the mls to stop thinking it’s the shit cuz no one gives a shit about it and no team will ever be better than Europe teams because there is no trophy to be won which matters unlike champions league premier league
Yeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh...that Portland/Seattle rivalry has been since 1975, way before mls. The rivalry with Vancouver is a friendly rivalry, because we both hate Seattle. #ACES
This was an AWESOME video, from the editing to production in it, it was outstanding. Even from someone who doesn't support any of these teams(waiting for North Carolina FC to get into MLS) I could feel the emotions of these fans and the intensity of the rivalries though this video. Keep bringing out videos like these!!
I think the biggest problem europeans and others have with football in the US is the franchise system. No relegation, no soul. Ok you're a die hard Seattle fan and what will happen if the team moves to vegas?
Why do they do all these videos on the mls but none on the Scottish league? Some of the rivalries in Scotland apart from the old firm (Edinburgh derby comes to mind) are so intense but get no recognition from football channels like these who just want to gain commercial opportunities from doing videos on new leagues. MLS still doesnt really get how football is done, from the fans upward and until they do I don’t think they should get as much attention as they do, but that’s just my view. Honestly, I wouldn’t really mind if you keep doing these videos but just something to bear in mind the Scottish league and other leagues that sometimes go right over peoples heads because they just write them off due to the lack of “superstar” players deserve a bit more attention than they get just in general and from channels like these. And P.S. anyone who says the Scottish league is a pub league can piss off.
Wow the fans dont like each other.......shocking. And begging to support a team because lampard and david villa show up is sad especially when a local team already existed
Sonny Lulgjuraj because NYC doesn’t have any space for new stadiums, hence why NYCFC plays in a baseball stadium LOL. They’re in the NY metro area, they’re a NY team at heart, same as Jets and Giants
I don't understand why foreign (children) diss the MLS so much. Y'all keep bringing other fans down and we're gonna keep building our sport the way we want to. Everyone who goes to an Orlando City game or an SKC game or a game in Cascadia comes away impressed, just watch Poet and Vuj when they went on tour here. Soccer is still growing in NA and even if you aren't paying attention now, soon you'll have no choice but to hear us.
Just kids mate ignore them. It's good that football is taking off in America. I still think having a promotion and relegation would make it more competitive.
if mls anf generally soccer in usa want to improve , the should change the system cuz it's stupid for money reason's first of all they should create national divisions with relegation and promotion battles , that will give more fans ant intest to the smaller teams and also in the crap teams of mls to not relegate ,
I really hope the plans for MLS Miami expansion take place. Probably one of the largest Latin American populations in the United States and we could have a chance to channel that intense passion we have for our clubs back home. No doubt a Miami-Orlando rivalry would match any of these. Who needs a second LA club when one of the largest potential markets for a club is still untapped.
This video is sponsored by the league itself and Adidas. That is part of the problem. We Europeans mock clubs for selling themselves to corporations, its just not football. But when Bayern Munich do it, they can back that up with a rich history and continental success. I absolutely love that the sport is (seemingly) growing stateside, but its just not your culture. Hearing some of these fans is like listening to a white Irishman doing hardcore rap.
People have been playing it here forever, only difference is now people are watching it a lot more. The term “soccer mom” originated here for a reason. Just now the professional game is getting more popular. But I can understand from a Europeans perspective on how it can get cringe, the chanting is cringe, sometimes the way many teams try to copy Europe is very cringe. But it’s interesting how MLS is combining the game and American sport culture. I think people should be happy professional soccer is getting very popular here not annoyed or whatever. Just realized you commented this 3 years ago.
@@steviesoprano Yeah but that's just for the trophy. There should be a second league with promotion to the MLS and relegation from the MLS to said league.
Soccer isn't popular enough in the United States to allow for a financially viable pro/rel system. The second and third divisions in the united states are like non league level teams in England. They are largely semi pro and no team could financially survive going down a division, it would force them into insolvency.
You can’t say Red Bulls and NYCFC are big rivals. NYCFC literally just became a club a couple of years ago and there’s barely any history. Toronto and Montreal should be in this video. 2 cities that actually hate each other for other reasons besides soccer.
Apple Pie FC Just because there is hate doesn't mean there is meaning to the rivalry. They just hate eachother for the fun of it. It's not like european rivalries where there is history and actual reasons to dislike the other team.
Thanks for making this video. Even if it's sponsored by adidas and the MLS I went to the Portland Seattle game in Seattle and is was incredible. Best game I've been to atmosphere wise. I also went to Vancouver during the trip as well. Beautiful city and great culture and just a great trip. The best part was the march to the stadium and there was a park where all the fans hung out. I was really jealous of that and hope it come to Colorado soon. Really recommend it and was just so heart warming to see that my sport, football, has made a step hold in my country. Hopefully it spreads throughout.
2:24 "It's the only league I know that actually wins a trophy when you're playing a derby game" Not heard of the _The Brian Clough Trophy_ for Derby County vs N***s F****t matches then.
Robin J710 Listen, you don't have to like the MLS. As an American, I admit our level of play is nowhere near over in Europe, but for me, it's still a fun league to watch. Again, you don't have to enjoy it, but don't spoil our fun.
Love how the New York “fans” have beef. New York Red Bulls have history darn it. Except the Ny/Nj Metrostars who were there before and the red bulls are about two decades old. It’s just manufactured cringe.
MLS is a joke. Most English clubs go back over 120 years, and their rivalries have roots in competing working groups, who were competing just to survive back then. Here you've got MLS fans trying to recreate that artificially lol. GTFO.
To me personally... the MLS will ALWAYS have my heart with me being an Los Angeles Galaxy fan. But... being that I watch A LOT of Premier League if I had to compare a young Darby in the MLS to one Darby in the Premier League I would say the Cascadia Cup would take the cake in my opinion so take that with a grain of salt being that they're so many GOOD DARBY MATCHES in the Premier League. Bringing it back to Vancouver, Portland, and Seattle Cascadia Cup battles, It's just so much history with those 3 clubs and North American Soccer/Football in general.The supporters brought that cup which is still crazy to this day. It just show how much passion those club supporters have. Hopefully the LAFC vs L.A. Galaxy rivaly lives up to the hype.
We, europeans Hate the mls, because we also hate the money based modern football, so when you show us a league where everything is fabricated to marketing pusposes and to make money, we are going to hate it, show us something genuine not a fucking adidas comercial ffs.
Agreed. And what happens in the US spills out worldwide. Crystal Palace now have cheerleaders. Soon it'll be fucking t-shirt cannons & half time shows. Already the world cup has a ridiculous "Superbowl-esque" half-time show.. THAT BEGAN IN WORLD CUP USA 1994. AMERICA DID THAT. And now we have to listen to fucking David Guetta and The Black Eyed Peas during a fucking match, when all we want is beer and some steak and kidney pie. Fuck off with your fake, money-driven, soulless, corporate bastardisation of our HISTORY.
I appreciate learning an actual reason behind the hate. I'm an American (in portland oregon) who lived in England for a couple of years when I was a kid. So it always hurts me when I see so much hate hurled at the MLS from the British and other Europeans. I remember growing up and constantly hearing "why don't Americans care about football?" Well now we do and we get so much hate for it. While I can understand why you would hate this let me briefly explain the other side. We hate it too. Most of us love soccer because of the lack of commercialization. You don't get the 5 minute long commercial breaks after every stop in play like you do with American sports. When NYFC joined the league, the team, fans, and players were constantly ridiculed by mls fans. This was the league's attempt to fabricate a new York rivalry for fans and try and lure Manchester city fans over here. (Just like they did with chivas) but there's a reason for this. In order to grow the league this has to be done. They're trying to draw the eye of the casual observers so that they too can fall in love with the league. Nycfc was the most hated team in the league coming in but they've actually earned back a lot of respect. the team and fans have showed that the origins of the team don't matter, it's the heart of the team and fans that matter. Also David villa is incredible and an all around cool guy. So my point is that we hate the commercialazation too. You can hate the league all you want, they're just doing what they have to do to survive. But if you look at the teams individually, the players and the fans, you'll see heart and passion. You'll see a love for the beautiful game.
Than watch MLS. It's a genuine league. There is a lot of promotion for it because there are so many more sports in the US. Euros don't use their brains when commenting.
Put all MLS games on broadcast TV to gain more support for the league and get young people into the sport which many can't see because many can't afford cable/internet to see games behind a paywall. Kids emulate what they see more often like Basketball,Baseball,Football,Track & Field. Leave pro/rel to other countries and leagues that have decades of history,support for the sport as a whole and deeper talent. Not that the US doesn't have talent,we do just not enough from all economic backgrounds like other countries do.
The main issue I have with the MLS is that they've followed the mould of all other American sports in terms of league structure and team ownership. For example, NO relegation/promotion from 2nd tier and the clubs are Franchises, so essentially it's a league full of MK Dons, I could go and apply for an MLS license, buy a club then relocate it thousands of miles away with a new name. I could also just buy a club and apply straight for an MLS license with a team that's never played a single game of Football !......and a trophy for a Derby game??? Come on, really. Oh yeah, and the way it goes to a playoff and essentially a cup competition so the team that finishes 4th in their separate league can be crowned champs if they win the playoffs !!!
Make a video on VAK-P Ultras and how they havent attended home games since april after their own club (Fc Twente) has betrayed them. The club recently put cameras on the stands and the Ultras found out. Pls COPA 90 Make a video on this 🙏
Bob Bob helemaal mee eens, ondanks dat ik een AZ supporter in hart en nieren ben heb ik toch respect voor vak-P, altijd een achter hun club staan en de keren dat ik bij Twente ben geweest een mooie sfeer. Respect!
Austin vs Columbus snake derby needs to be a thing owner of austin (anthony precourt) used to own columbus and tried to move it, long story short the state threatened to sue mls into the ground and the league decided to give precourt a new franchise and sell the columbus team. an unknown columbus supporter flew a plane over austin’s new stadium on their first match stating, “precourt is a snake” many of the columbus chants still end with “fuck you precourt” and “fuck you precourt, we are the crew”
Instead of pulling the sympathy card, showing a inferiority complex and talking about how you don't care what anyone thinks of the league nor American soccer DESPITE SHOWING OTHERWISE, why don't the league just prove it. Until MLS rivalries develop more and grow history, it's not going to be a big deal. I'm not talking about history as in using a recycled one from a previous first division league like Seattle versus Portland. I'm talking about a consistent rivalry that stretches out through decades nonstop. Right now, all of the MLS rivalries are over hyped and lack real hatred in it. Furthermore, the league's marketing of it makes it look gimmicky. Rivalry week? Really? MLS is not even trying to hide their marketing strategy, but it's still hidden good enough for their passionate fans to be blind towards it. Rivalries are one of the things that draw lots of interest in many sporting events. MLS sees that and is trying to mimic it for marketing reasons. MLS clubs don't have rivalries because of the passion nor hatred each team have for one another, but for the profit values of it through ratings and ticket sales. Fans get invested into what they feel is a rivalry and what they really get is a normal soccer match with a few weak hits here and there. The fans are the ones that put in most of the work to make it look like a rivalry in the end and even that's weak. I see fans wanting a rivalry for the sake of having a rivalry.
The MLS is not scum it's just boring, the Liga MX is way better all the way .... Tigres, Xolos,Monterrey,Pachuca,Chivas, etc so far Liga Mx is better in Concacaf
Lord Loss Though I can't deny the history of Mexican clubs winning the CCL , this year could be different. I am not aware if you watch MLS since you find it boring but this years TFC is a record setting team that can match up man for man against any Mexican side. You might be in for a surprise. The only problem is that it is played during MLS preseason.
Agreed. I also dont really like how modern all the logos and names are. Like why do we all need a mascot in the name. Not really a big deal, just kind of puts me off. Also there is almost no local football which needs to be fixed if football will actually grow.
They will never understand what is football, for them is just hobie. They have rivalries, derbys ? Are you kiding me ? Plastic people, plastic country. I have feling that they started watching football like 10 years ago, but for exaple in my case, my grandfather was fan, my father was one of leaders of ultras group, and he join me in ultras group when i was one and half years old, and my first game was when I was 2 years old on North ultras stand. How can they understand that ? Football is not something that you choose to support, it is something what you born with, it is in your blood. First awaygame, first pryo, first fight, first aresting, it is not a sport, for them it is. No history, no true love, no passion, this is just some Americans copy football, so i am glad they call it soocer, because it is not football. Greating from Sarajevo
You hate mls because you hate Americans. Chill out. Yes yes, for decades America got to parade around and say they're the best at everything...so I can understand why Europeans want to hold one over them....but fact is, more and more of your players are coming here. Especially if you're young talent. Great place to go on loan and develop. I can think of at least 20 other leagues in which the mls is better than.....I don't hear anyone talk shit about the saudi league... 🙄
+AG O That’s only still a bitter rivalry in the minds of Rangers fans... Celtic are more worried about how they do in the Champions League each season than about beating Rangers
Imagine if all the best athletes in the U.S. actually played soccer as their main sport instead of basketball, football etc. We'd dominate. Period. its only getting bigger and bigger here. we already do better than England in big tournaments. not that thats saying much
It must be annoying to hear the constant criticism of your league, but let's be real - most of my clothes are older than these "rivalries" lol. My team was founded in 1892, and I'm a 5th generation supporter. That shit's in my blood. Can't even compare. #ynwa
Enigmatic hahaha @ your great-great grandfather for supporting a club with no history, that also initially copied their "rival's" kit. See how you sound? I'm not a fan of them overhyping rivalries in MLS but give it time.
How insecure do they have to be to try and prove to people that they actually have rivalries. Tomorrow here in Glasgow we will have the first old game of the season, the fact they are actually saying that they can compare to fixtures such as; Barca v Real Celtic v Rangers* Red star v Partizan Belgrade Dortmund v S04 Legia Warsaw v Lech Poznan Inter v Milan Roma v Lazio Porto v Benfica It really surprises me how the one lassie says that in Europe we are born into a football team, we do not choose. Hahahaha what, I would rather be born into one of the worst teams in my nation than decide one day I'm going to support the new team on the block. Americans are starting to make noise in New York with this derby when I haven't seen one article or video of the fan violence/tension as seen all over Europe. They are also arguing over who is the most original fans, how can you take an argument seriously from a guy that supports a team formed in 2013 and a guy that supports a club that has been bank rolled by a major company. Save the trouble and stick to American football.
+Callum Opinions like this one are a joke. Basically, in a nutshell, I see from reading all this that it makes you insecure to see Americans enjoying Association football, because you love it and you think it sets you apart from Americans. That if we start loving the sport, it won’t be unique for you anymore... Piss off. It’s the world’s game. You Europeans make fun of us for not being into soccer, then make fun of us for being into it. We can’t win... Also, if you’re going to claim that Man City and Liverpool and Man United aren’t corporate-owned and don’t care about money, you’re full of it.
Swansea v Cardiff Man UTD v City Man UTD v Liverpool Sheff UTD v Wednesday Palace v Brighton Liverpool v Everton North London Drby Chelsea v WestHam Villa v BCity (Probably forgetting quite a few) All of the above are true ground rootes rivalries and are all filled with explosive passion which makes them all better than these plastic MLS derbys. Thats just one country....
The Lord what do you expect, MlLS is just coming alive. Rivalries take time and supporters will eventually find their voice. I would think that's commonsense but guess not for everyone...
English fan here: Both the NY clubs in this are so fucking corporate and manufactured. Cosmos deserve to be in that league far more than either of them plastic clubs do. The Cascadia rivalries look good though, quality fan culture and looks a lot of fun. The Toronto-Montreal rivalry shoulda been mentioned, one of the few real deep-rooted rivalries in the MLS that transcends football. Also, if Americans want to know why we struggle to respect your league, I went to an MLS game last year, and not just any, it was a play-off between Montreal and NYRB, hardly some meaningless game, and the attendance was dire (like 20% of the stadium at most). Until this is sorted out (which in all fairness it does seem to be changing), Europeans are really gonna struggle to look at your league as anything other than a corporate, manufactured and plastic league. Also the absolute nerve to compare seeing the birth of NYCFC - a club manufactured by a large corporate entity and immediately put into the top league because money - to the birth of a club like Liverpool - a club made by local working class people in their own neighbourhood to represent their community - is beyond a joke.
MLS is a pay-to-play league. If you want a club, it's a $100M+ entry fee. As romantic as it is to have a club start from the ground up like in Europe, it's not the American dream. Get rich quick!
Americans creating soccer rivalries like its a new fashion or something what a Cringe league. Even the fans look really goofy soccer try hards.. stop it already. I wont be sorry for the insults and i will never follow this mediocre league. For the time lets point the finger and laugh at it. Your rivalries are so special at the sametime have no silverware to show for.
A Red Bull supporter calling another team 'plastic'? That's a ridiculous level of lack of self-awareness.
NYCFC is a plastic team
Nearly every MLS team is a plastic team lol
The whole mls is a plastic league made out of marketing and consumers
It’s another corporation
No culture for the sport, no history, no identity some clubs even want to change cities due to lack of support
They gotta start somewhere ryte...the question of when did you start following/supporting a club does not matter... We all started somewhere... European,Asian, American doesn't matter.... these fans supported the club at the very start of it all...how many of European Football Clubs supportes can claim that...
Most european clubs were started by the people, e.g Hajduk Split was founded back in 1911 by a couple of students from Split, while your teams are made by corporations looking to suck money out of the people
look chaps, us brits do not hate you lot,we like that you're getting stuck in. and understand that the travelling makes it hard. keep going. though somtimes the chants are a bit embarassing
There are a few cringy chants, but also some absolute beauties, like Real Salt Lake's Believe chant.
@@3dsaulgoodman43 Real? As in the Spanish word for royal?
Agent P please tell me that isn’t the ‘I believe that we will win’ chant...
@@jamiemidge4983 Just looked into it and it's not lol thank goodness lmao. I mean the ‘I believe that we will win’ chant is a fun little thing, but gaaaah damn it's over used
Well said mate.
Damn, not a single mention of the Toronto-Montreal rivalry? One of the most heated in the league that is one of the few that is actually rooted in differences in culture, not to mention geography and politics? Hope we get some coverage on that soon!
Lol also not made up by MLS. Toronto has hated Montreal for decades
T tba Exactly! Strange to highlight fabricated rivalries over one of the few TRUE rivalries that has existed between two cities before the MLS was even a league!
Honestly
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I think this was a collab between C90 and MLS. Wouldn't surprise me that Garber hates Canada. Maybe its because we both play on grass, on real fields, not like the retards down south. Who knows. Either way the Cup is coming to Canada
How can New York Red Bull despise New York City FC for buying their way into the league? Are they oblivious to the existence of other Red Bull sides?
evan NYRB was originally the NewYork/NewJersey Metrostars. The ownership change happened in 2006. The club still actively admires our past and so do our fans. My issue with NYCFC is that their fans are a bunch of douchebags. In our US Open Cup match against them in June they literally broke a whole row of seats in our arena. They claim to be a real club when they don’t have a real stadium and a consistent fan base. Their attempts to find a new stadium have been pathetic. They share stadiums with the New York Yankees (baseball team). This season the Yankees performed surprisingly well and made it to the playoffs. One of their games coincided with NYCFC so they had to play somewhere else. The “experienced and qualified professionals” at NYCFC decided to move their game to over 2 hours away in a different state. They are one of the biggest laughing stocks in the league, and only exist because of sheikh mansour.
Kemarinhoo Look at your average attendance then look at NYC. Enough said. NJ IS RED
Kemarinhoo The games that coincided with NYCFC were never supposed to be played in New York. They were supposed to be in Tropicana in Tampa Bay, except Hurricane Irma made it unsafe for players and fans to go to the stadium. That's why they had to be moved.
The first club to reach the CONCACAF Champion's League semifinal was from NYC in *1984* a feat that would not be matched until RSL in 2010. Want to guess the club? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the Cosmos :)
@@supersun0079 RBA average attendance is 19,000 where as NYCFC average attendance is between 20,000 to 25,000 on both baseball stadiums I wouldn't brang about it
I feel a relegation and promotion system would make the rivalries ever more exciting.
Also I’m not a fan of the derby trophy thing but yah I’m glad the MLS is being very original in its system.
Bayern_Lover22 3 dud hell yes
Andrew Yeah that derby trophy thing is pretty american. The same happens in college football. I'm of the thinking that if it doesn't hurt the game, it's cool
I used to thought like that. But considering they have to pay $200++ million for expansion fee and built football specific stadium. The pro-rel were still far away. But in the other side, without pro-rel this league will always be a joke
@@ryanfebrianto8973 a joke???? Lmao, just a because it isn't pure-Euro doesn't mean its bad!
Sorry but a football league without relegation does not feel right to me. It's a handout league. You can only win something and not lose anything. That's not football. In football you also need the pain of losing something.
dramatish and if their was a relegation they would have more teams wanting to win the league for once and not have the same teams versing each other every year
TheDevilsMessenger4 um guessing ur about 6
dramatish so? its much funner to watch mls than liga bayern munich... Oops i mean bundesliga.
DCUnderdog3000 its because they struggle kicking the ball
just face it no one gives a shit about the mls it’s where are players retire because of the nice weather and it’s not that good a league since players who can no longer perform well enough in our leagues go to the mls so it’s time for the mls to stop thinking it’s the shit cuz no one gives a shit about it and no team will ever be better than Europe teams because there is no trophy to be won which matters unlike champions league premier league
MLS is trying to force rivalries and it isn't working, let them happen on their own
Yeah, it's quite sad
So many haters😂 I love it. That's how u know we're doing something right when people hate on "forced rivalries"
+Rob S Ass munch, there are plenty rivalries in the NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB. The competiveness tends to cover an array of demographics.
I'm from America and I agree. Although the Cascadia cup has already happened on its own pretty much. That goes back several decades before MLS was even founded.
MTL vs Tor is a real rivalry not just at soccer/Hockey but the cities themselves.
We need promotion/relegation in the US. There's no reason the NY Cosmos shouldn't have an opportunity to play in the MLS.
Colby Denton They were offered the opportunity on two separate occasions and turned it down.
They dont have the financial ability to. Part of the reason for that is that there is no national tv coverage of the 2nd tier here. At least i havent been able to see it. I cant even watch Indy Eleven games and theyre the biggest club in my state. The people in charge here dont want to create a culture around the game, they just want profits. Hopefully within the next few decades the literally thousands of clubs in the US will all have a fair chance.
Why do they need relegation? Show your work.
Because otherwise teams have nothing to lose, if you finish bottom every year and don't lose anything teams won't care as much
That doesn't appear to have led the four major North American sports into disaster and apathy.
New york derby: derby between an energy drink and an stupid commercial middle-eastern football group
Daniel van Maanen...Americans don’t get football violence. But Europeans didn’t until about 1998. England created this football thug culture but the authorities called us “The English Disease” whenever it kicked off. All over the BBC and radio if a fan even runs into the pitch now. They’ve ruined it in England’s Premier League. You have to go to the Championship and lower leagues for the non plastics now. Sheffield Utd have just been promoted so maybe they can do some old school thuggery. Real fans love it.
Jamis Ins Europeaans didn’t before 1998? You know that ultra’s and hooligans groups from Serbia, Greece, Germany, poland etcetera. Already exist for 50 years...
Geertje Me niffo so why did British fans do what they wanted all over Europe before about 98? We’re the European Ultra and hooligan groups you mention not bothered? Maybe they were happy to see English thugs take the piss out of the foreign stadiums and cities? Why did English fans do what they wanted with no opposition for decades?
@@jamisbillson4872 football violence was born in italy in the 80's. There was a lot of trouble in that period
Carlo Clemente is that why Italy were banned from European competition in the 80’s then! Italy have never even been in the Premier League of football trouble. Italy have absolutely no name or reputation. In fact...as most English thugs will tell you...Italy are known as melts. 20,000 British soldiers took OVER 1 MILLION Italian soldiers in North Africa during the war. The joke about the shortest book in history being “Italian war heroes” or what colour is the Italian national flag? White! For surrender. And do you know what many Italian (Roma for one if I recall?) fans used to do? On their mopeds they’d drive up behind the opposition fans with Stanley knives and cut behind the knee. Why? Maybe so they can’t be chased? Those are all facts. Give me one back. By the way mate...Ultras are embarrassing. Face painting, drum banging flag waving nonsense. Which suggests to real hooligans that Italy just don’t get it. And they never did.
Which glory team do you support mate? Jive? AC? Inter? Lazily?
If you're a football fan you would be encouraging this not trying to knock the league down sure it might not be the best but it has improved and it will continue to improve
LucasXL well said!
LucasXL MLS is not football tho...it’s soccer.
M football, soccer same shit. We love our league.
LucasXL finally, thank you.
Football is a global sport and thats what makes it beautiful. Thats why I've got no time for people degrading the MLS and Football in America. From a british man , keep doing what you're doing America. As long as the fans believe in the club, the MLS will one day reach the heights of football.
Thank You from a Hard Core MLS Fan. We do believe and were are getting stronger every year.
im also british, wolves fan lol gotta be said, and I keep up with the MLS week in week out and I love it. now all I want is the best for the mls and usmnt (usmnt cos I love it when us football haters get proven wrong)
Being there at the beginning of history, never thought about that before. Pretty awesome
WOLVES WWFC1887 respect bro! Been a Columbus Crew SC supporter since 2011 and a U.S MNT fan also since 2011
I dont think the mls is that bad, the playoff system is shit and the defence is as bad as Liverpool's sometimes (I support them incase u didnt know) but some of the attacking players that ive seen are pretty good
I dont watch the mls, i think te whole idea you cant be promoted and relegated ruins it from the get go. That being said any true football fan should want any league in any country to prosper and showcase talent. Thats why it's the beautiful game
One of the advantages of not having relegation is every team has a chance to win. The MLS has different champions because they have financial rules to prevent a team from buying the best players available. To MLS fans, it’s worth it rather than seeing the euro leagues have the same damn team win all the time.
Well no, because the league would be simply to big and also you would have big teams such a LA going up against teams who go for a kick about at the park every Sunday
That's different to promotion/relegation. You can still have that and also have a fair financial regulation.
HazardlyNP I feel like the main reason why there is no promotion or relegation in the MLS is that there just isn't enough popularity to create enough teams for multiple tiers/leagues. Soccer just doesn't have the same influence here that it does over in Europe. With any luck that will change in time, but for now, we're happy with what we have.
That's just how pro leagues are here in the United States. You don't drop level of play if you lose the league. It's impossible for the NFL since there isn't a lower league. Question, are college/university sports a big deal in the UK like over here, or no?
I'm not the biggest MLS fan but credit where credit is due. The league has progressed a lot since its conception. As someone who has attended matches in both Europe and the US, the quality of play and the fan culture obviously isn't near the level of say the Prem or Bundesliga but it's rapidly growing. Big ups to the MLS and its supporters. Don't listen to all the haters that have no idea about the league and only hate on it due to their irrational biases. No MLS fan acts like they're on the same level as the bigger leagues, guys. 😑
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You can't CREATE real rivalries...
Renko the Cascadia derbys have been around since 1974..
I remember when they tried to force Toronto FC vs Montreal Impact, now after the 2016 season the rivalry is true, now it is no longer forced.
Renko I find it funny how New York City was built and people actually left red bulls to support city and now the same snakey supporters are cheering on city at derbys lol
Hudson River Rivalrys have existed in both professional and non professional (college) sports for decades.
that's cute. the merseyside derby's been around since 1892. were you lot even a country then?
i am Argentinian,. I was in Portland for work and went to see the timbers. They really left me a great impression.
As a euro watching MLS is quite decent quality of football in my opinion. Sorry of bad English!
I'm not a MLS hater but u can't tell me the football is decent quality
Calibre of players yes, but tactically and intensity wise I'd say a lot of Asian leagues are better
Zadkovich Raj oh come on, they aren't that bad
I'm not sure about that
The defence across the league is lacking and most of the time it's depending on raw talent
Even Howard can't save Rapid's non-existant defence line
where do you live in europe? malta? most MLS teams couldn't even make it in the championship...
that's definitely a lie you know its fucking shit
You dont get respected by shouting "Respect me!". I think its great what they are doing but stop comparing them to europe.
Reece Morrison we'll stop copying us British then
Craig Miller lmao! in what way do we copy the british?
Craig Miller I mean. Most of those white people are descendent of English people. ENGLABD BLEW A 13 COLONY LEAD. We ended you guys and we'll gladly do it in sports. Just like the first time. It takes time.
Europe: Big teams buying leagues.
MLS: Salary cap. Competitive league. Struggles internationally.
@@luisrosales9349 Never will that happen in football. MLS is full of players who have retired and its too competitive. No clubs getting relegated etc. I mean your national team is in shambles losing to the worst teams in the world.
Why do people hate on MLS sure it's not the best league in the world but football is a global game
Because they say they’re just as good as any Euro or even Mexican team, but all they do is sign retiring players and try to quicken the growth. Football is the number 1 sport in the world, the MLS will soon be the number 1 sport in America, it’ll take years, but that’s fine. MLS is just trying to rush it.
Because teams such as Atalanta United are buying their way to success. No german club except Red Bull Leipshit bought their way to success. You support a club because of its success. We support clubs because we love them and we have a lot of history
Robin Willmann that’s not true Bayern Munich , in Europe it’s basically all the elitist football teams winning the champions league.
MLS, in my opinion, can't beat a team like Bayern Munich, but definitely could beat Sunderland and Amiens. MLS is probably on the level of the Championship.
@@robinwillmann6693 a lot of our teams don't just come out of nothing. They start out in another league, like NSL, then eventually get picked to join MLS. So it's not fans saying "oh look, I chose to support this new team" but rather fans from when it was an NSL team following them to MLS. Like all 3 Cascadia teams did.
NEW RULE : you're not allowed to call anyone or anything plastic if you're supporting a club named after a shitty soda drink .
R0b Anthony who is named after a soda drink
Lindo Hay red bull new York .
R0b Anthony Oh yeah I was thinking about Cascadia
Before they were metrostars
KingShadow11 yea & they sold their identify, tradition & history to a shitty drink company to get the same things that other clubs are getting without selling their souls . It's as disgusting as that shitty drink they're selling.
they said its the only league where you win a trophy for winning a derby game. Derby county and Nottingham forest play there is the Brian Clough trophy
The real New York team is neither NYCFC or NYRB, but NY Cosmos... That team has more history than those 2 combine. The likes of Pele and the Kaiser once played for that team. Bring that team to MLS.
Mohamed Haiqel they have no money
Mohamed Haiqel that team has died twice no fans second division football they’re players wont last in the top flight
+Mohamed Haiqel
I hope that when NASL folds they bring NY Cosmos to MLS, or at least to USL...
They play in a stadium with like 5k seats
You fucked it up when you mentioned Pele. And true. NY Cosmos should come back and maybe rebrand a little. Also, New York RB should rebrand to Newark RB or something
Football in europe: for the working class
"soccer" in the US: for the Hipster class
so real theyre all 🏳🌈
Premier league average age: 26,8 years
MLS average age: 25,8 years
A retirement league, huh?
Mesut Özil exactly. They see that Kaka plays here and immediately say no to all the talent from around the world who are nurtured on our academies and then play in Europe.
Because the MLS has a limit on DP's ;)
it's because the good players are really old
Itz evil Not at all
Mesut Özil those 25 yeras old cant compete an actual big competition
A big part of rivalry in any sport is history; the history between two teams. Portland vs Seattle, Toronto vs Vancouver are on the throne for biggest MLS rivalries as of 2019. In 10 years I see LAFC vs Galaxy and FC Cincinnati vs Columbus dethroning those two rivalries.
I'm so excited to watch USA in the World Cup... wait a minute...
@ G M- you keep waiting for a minute, i'm gonna wait for a second.............ohhhh wait a second
Wait a... 4 year bro. Not a minute...
G M the savage level is unreal 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 OMFG
Andre Winata lmap fr
hahahah they had a EASY group and could not qualified
Also if you hate the playoff system, what's the difference between the mls playoffs and the liga mx playoffs. I don't see people saying liga mx is terrible
as an MLS fan And liga MX fan I don't get it either
Wally West because yh but there actually good
Wally West because some teams dont deserve to be in the playoffs, a team that has less points than another team in a different conference somehow makes it to playoffs, not fair for the teams
Wally West cause the mx has proper passion and great fans
Wally West Liga MX has the same level of quality but has a much higher level of passion from the fans.
I don't hate the MLS but I'm sure sick of hearing about it. I'm from Australia and the A-League has its moments but I don't expect the larger football community to be that interested. It's like the US Copa90 fans can't let it go that the rest of the world just isn't that interested, which isn't that unusual for a non-European, non-champions league competition. The reality is the most interesting leagues are where the higher stakes are, where the biggest prizes can be won which is most definitely European football. Like I said I don't hate it, I'm just not that interested and I don't particularly appreciate lots of MLS content being thrown in my face.
Honestly, the amount of dick measuring and attention seeking that goes on with MLS is a fuckin embarrassment. I've seen the word "cringeworthy" being tossed around these comments. Quite accurate.
Kinda feel this way about the Liga Mx. I know it will never be the biggest league in the world , because it will always be in Europe. However, I watch Liga Mx the most it has the most value to me.
Delcio Acosta clearly an American channel? Check the description, this is Copa90. I don't subscribe to Copa90US, for obvious reasons.
If only there was a way in which you did not have to watch videos and matches that you didn't want to watch....
Even the Japanese league is better
A League without relegations isn't even a REAL league, it is bulshit!
There a dozens of leagues with no relegation.
Snowblind lol like which ones? only unimportant leagues don't have the relegation system
Which ones?
Snowblind that is just not true
Jared Raymer You are totally right and anyway that is not the North american way, in Europe people only breath soccer (or football if you want) and a bit about Rugby, so they will still support the team if it's relegated. In north america people do not care about only 1 sport, depending on the areas we care about 4 major sports more than soccer, Football (american), Basket ball, Hockey and Baseball. Relegations would never work because as soon as a team would get relegated a lot of people would stop to care about it and go back watching the other 4 sports.
I do not understand how most European football fans can express so much hatred for American soccer
Do you honestly think that if the only football leagues were in Europe, you could call the beautiful game a GLOBAL sport? People go around saying that Football is the greatest sport on earth, and yet you bash on North Americans for wanting to enjoy the sport as much as you do, where is the logic is that? Its like telling someone about something that you find amazing, peeking their interest, convincing them of said thing value but then every time that person tries to enjoy the same thing you deem so enjoyable , you get in their way and reprimend them for it.
Im not saying that the MLS is anywhere close to the quality of the EPL but that shouldnt negate the fact that North America is a mixing pot of cultures, cultures from parts of the world that enjoy/love football, it is their right to express the same amount of love for the sport that everyone else has, that being in the form of an organised league. Im Canadian #HalaMadrid
Andre Dibo Amany we don’t bash you for enjoying it we bash you for the way you do, it’s too commercial and you’re forcing rivalries and when you should just sit back and let them happen organically Derby county and Leeds united have no link other than they were both at their peak at the same time and have a rivalry because of it, idc that you have no history we didn’t once,
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 preach
First of ya call it soccer....came talk to me when you call it football...until then ya scam to me
is it french fries or chips? bathroom or loo? there are differences in language between different cultures/ get over yourself, you fucking idiot.
Actually Evey cultuer calls it football...everything about mls is plane weard and stupid
Sean Bolden we call it football in ireland yer wee american fuck. Go back to your tiny little sports in tinpot America you yankee
Sean Bolden google says noooo
Sean Bolden south Africa dont say soccer...get u facts straighten....google it since google is ur source
Derby v Nottingham Forest have a cup too ( Brian Clough cup)
Has the MLS paid for this? Because their logo flashed up at the start
How can people support artificial teams created by investors and companies?
it boggles the mind. same with RB Leipzig in Germany, to be fair. another plastic, fake, corporate team.
Or Man City
I support my local team (LA Galaxy) because it is the place I've grown up, and I don't care who funds them, as long as I get to watch them play and support them with my fellow LA residents.
Every club is artificial when it's created. How could it not be? Did you find yours growing out in the woods?
Enigmatic In defense of RB Leipzig, they won promotion from Germany's lower leagues, unlike these new MLS teams that didn't have to win a place in their league.
Besides it's not like RB Leipzig is any worse than any of the big name clubs in Europe, which the majority have big corporations behind them- just like RB Leipzig.
So stop with the "pot calling the kettle black".
"Original 96" wow steeped in history
👍😂😂😂
My club was already 110 yrs old. Fuck sake
One of the challenges shared by MLS and the A-league in Australia is geographic vastness of both countries meaning away fans are in small numbers. Both Australia and the US also have other sports that are traditionally far bigger e.g. the AFL and NRL in Australia/MLB, NBA and NFL in US. But credit to the fans in this video, they clearly have a deep connection with their club.
Even though I find MLS boring I don't see the problem people have with American supporters and the American teams it's just there league lol
Oxford v Swindon is a bigger rivalry then any of these!
It's about pride of where you come from, not because your just a "fan"
who the fuck cares about league one no one mls may not be as big as the epl but more people watch the mls then league one is it even played on tv my point is you made a really shitty point
Devin Darley 😂😂 you haven't got a clue!
you dont think they dont have pride?
Just because people don't act like hooligans doesn't mean its not a rivalry. I know the knuckledraggers in Oxford are incapable of understanding that.
KingShadow11 being from the usa... No
"This has been a good thing for the New York Red Bulls" Yeah cause they finally have a rival with as many Cups as they have.
Signed,
DC
UNTIL YOU HAVE RELEGATION AND PROMOTION, YOU ARE NOT A REAL LEAGUE
Not having relegation means you can have salary cap.
Considering the joke that has become competitiveness in european football, I aint mad at that.
i guess liga MX isn't a real league either then
Smith Kraft mx does relegate you idiot
Someone finally gets it
Admiral Ackbar yes they do, only 1 team gets relegated
As an American, fans don't really even care about the regular season. Every game mean so much to teams in Europe because only one team wins. As where in the mls 12 teams make the playoffs, thus making the regular less important.
good point. i didn't even realise you didn't have relegation/promotion. where are the stakes!?
That's not really true
Wow. That is why Ghana knocked you out of the World Cup in 2006. I feel sorry for Pulisic. Your comment does not have logic.
Any MLS team would get rattled by a European team for example Newcastle would destroy any club in the MLS they are just way more competitive so yeh deal with it.
Glory Glory ManUnited😈❤
MLS has a salary cap, don't forget that basically every PL team budget is 20x that of an MLS team
Satierdeen ha! The SJ earthquakes would destroy Newcastle weak ass 😂
Derp Herp still would love to be on what their on 😂 kaka earning like 5 million but obviously not much compared to other leagues
The premier leagues better at everything fans history quality get over it
Satierdeen as a Newcastle and Chicago Fire fan. I’d like to point out the following. 1. Newcastle lost at full strength to Sporting Kansas City in 2012. 2. Chicago was beating Man U’s starting 11 until we brought in the rookies to give them the experience. 3. Chicago, Toronto, NYCFC, and Cascadia would survive in the BPL. Not saying they’d win it, but they’d avoid relegation. Besides, if Leicester can pull a league win out if their ass after avoiding relegation, what’s that say about the quality of your league?
American football is as yet young, underdeveloped, slightly confused, and sadly it came into the world at a suboptimal time (with the rise of the super rich owners) but I'm enjoying watching it grow and develop. I think American soccer fans (yes, I'm using both. Get triggered) need to let it grow organically, and let the sport come first and the atmosphere around it follow that. And for the love of all that is holy, stop putting so much emphasis on the foreign players and focus on American talent. That's the REAL way to ascend both as a league and as a Football/Soccer nation
Not triggered, your just wrong. Football uses peoples feet, soccer is what Americans call football. The rest of the world is right and you are wrong.
But we’re not triggered. Just baffled.
These American soccer fans are the most artificial fan bases I've seen in sports and this is coming from an american
If you came out to a game than I think you would feel differently. Also it's not like we're born into a team. For instance there are multiple clubs in London. If someone lives in Montana than who are they going to support?
Instead of helping the sport grow into something special, you're here spreading negativity. Congrats for contributing f*ck all
I have nothing against the MLS, but WHY EVERY FUCKING VIDEO ITS TALKS ABOUT THE MLS AND THEIR FANS, I know football is growing in the US. But you guys overlook at the MLS, I know that the USA is the most popular country and the world etc, but come on almost every video its talks about MLS , You guys should just rename yourselves Copa 90 MLS. Why don't you guys talk about the Belgium League fans or even Japan ultras, it is getting boring because it is always showing the same kind of video which is showing people football culture and the US, We get it, it is growing but this channel is overlooking at the MLS.
The MLS will never truely be great unless they care about everyone there are clubs like my club D.C. united who were one of the original ones in 96 and have been very successful in the past and have been shoved aside and forgotten by the league to cater to the New York teams, the LA Galaxy and the soon to be LAFC and other teams who can afford these big soccer specific stadiums and better DPs.
To see the MLS grow gives me so much joy, not to mention, pride! I mean we're talking about a league that has been around since the early 90's but really had to earn the right to get where it has today. There aren't a lot of countries that have other sports dominate the media like the U.S., and yet we have a pride as Americans and Canadians to see our level of play grow and our supporters passionately support something that means more to them than just another sporting event. We all love this game, who cares about who has the best league, it should always be about progress no matter what continent you're on.
Joseph Garcia Garber...Garber cares about MLS being the best league. He literally said he wants MLS to be one of the top leagues by 2020. This isn't the first time he's made goalpost for this either. For him it's more about making the sport big to make more money than progress. He used to work for the NFL, he's used to working with the best.
😂 😂 😂 😂 mls is a retirement league. Most fans in the US support a player over a club. How many Americans claimed they were Barcelona fans and then became psg fans when neymar Jr went to psg. That American golden boy in Germany as well jezze America your not relevant in football. Your players are lazy and lack the hunger to learn and play in Europe. Which is the best way to go for your players. Learn how its done in Europe and go back to the mls and take that experience and develop players.
continent
just face it no one gives a shit about the mls it’s where are players retire because of the nice weather and it’s not that good a league since players who can no longer perform well enough in our leagues go to the mls so it’s time for the mls to stop thinking it’s the shit cuz no one gives a shit about it and no team will ever be better than Europe teams because there is no trophy to be won which matters unlike champions league premier league
Yeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh...that Portland/Seattle rivalry has been since 1975, way before mls. The rivalry with Vancouver is a friendly rivalry, because we both hate Seattle. #ACES
This was an AWESOME video, from the editing to production in it, it was outstanding. Even from someone who doesn't support any of these teams(waiting for North Carolina FC to get into MLS) I could feel the emotions of these fans and the intensity of the rivalries though this video. Keep bringing out videos like these!!
I think the biggest problem europeans and others have with football in the US is the franchise system. No relegation, no soul. Ok you're a die hard Seattle fan and what will happen if the team moves to vegas?
+occiBK31
It happened in England with Wimbledon FC moving to Milton Keynes...
Kyle Sekenski These are extremely rare cases though and usually don’t involve massive clubs
+occiBK31
Right, but I’m just saying it can and does happen outside the US
Why do they do all these videos on the mls but none on the Scottish league? Some of the rivalries in Scotland apart from the old firm (Edinburgh derby comes to mind) are so intense but get no recognition from football channels like these who just want to gain commercial opportunities from doing videos on new leagues. MLS still doesnt really get how football is done, from the fans upward and until they do I don’t think they should get as much attention as they do, but that’s just my view. Honestly, I wouldn’t really mind if you keep doing these videos but just something to bear in mind the Scottish league and other leagues that sometimes go right over peoples heads because they just write them off due to the lack of “superstar” players deserve a bit more attention than they get just in general and from channels like these. And P.S. anyone who says the Scottish league is a pub league can piss off.
Wow the fans dont like each other.......shocking.
And begging to support a team because lampard and david villa show up is sad especially when a local team already existed
Corey Phillip What local team? New York Red Bulls are in New Jersey lol
Sonny Lulgjuraj because NYC doesn’t have any space for new stadiums, hence why NYCFC plays in a baseball stadium LOL. They’re in the NY metro area, they’re a NY team at heart, same as Jets and Giants
Eric Johnson NJRB
Sonny Lulgjuraj lmao ok
NY cosmos so sad USA people have no clue of that team... that team had pele and other legends!
Mls can grow more by showing Saturday matches on national television
Say it louder for the people in the back!🙌
Off topic, but where is that soccer field in the first 3 seconds? The one located on the water.
its actually brooklyn bridge park
Pier 5 in Brooklyn
@@brandobabini5198 I play there occasionally for fun 😂😂😂
I don't understand why foreign (children) diss the MLS so much. Y'all keep bringing other fans down and we're gonna keep building our sport the way we want to. Everyone who goes to an Orlando City game or an SKC game or a game in Cascadia comes away impressed, just watch Poet and Vuj when they went on tour here. Soccer is still growing in NA and even if you aren't paying attention now, soon you'll have no choice but to hear us.
Just kids mate ignore them. It's good that football is taking off in America. I still think having a promotion and relegation would make it more competitive.
Canada fans are 1000x better than Americans. Ive been to both toronto vs montreal reaches decibles wayy higher than bpl games
As a europian guy i like the fact that Footbal/soccer is getting bigger in the US. It's great to see the sport grow!
Liga MX is still better doe
Why?
Dalton Morgan trash
@I HATE TOUCANS hell no bitch, the commentators are good.
@@DavidN16792 Is that the only thing you could compliment?
The mls is dead. The Chinese Super league is even better
Isak Pettersson it's not dead
if mls anf generally soccer in usa want to improve , the should change the system cuz it's stupid for money reason's
first of all they should create national divisions with relegation and promotion battles , that will give more fans ant intest to the smaller teams and also in the crap teams of mls to not relegate ,
I really hope the plans for MLS Miami expansion take place. Probably one of the largest Latin American populations in the United States and we could have a chance to channel that intense passion we have for our clubs back home. No doubt a Miami-Orlando rivalry would match any of these. Who needs a second LA club when one of the largest potential markets for a club is still untapped.
This video is sponsored by the league itself and Adidas. That is part of the problem. We Europeans mock clubs for selling themselves to corporations, its just not football. But when Bayern Munich do it, they can back that up with a rich history and continental success. I absolutely love that the sport is (seemingly) growing stateside, but its just not your culture. Hearing some of these fans is like listening to a white Irishman doing hardcore rap.
People have been playing it here forever, only difference is now people are watching it a lot more. The term “soccer mom” originated here for a reason. Just now the professional game is getting more popular. But I can understand from a Europeans perspective on how it can get cringe, the chanting is cringe, sometimes the way many teams try to copy Europe is very cringe. But it’s interesting how MLS is combining the game and American sport culture. I think people should be happy professional soccer is getting very popular here not annoyed or whatever. Just realized you commented this 3 years ago.
A league without pro rel is nothing more than bush league with no competing.
You don’t understand conferences and playoff spot fighting then.
@@steviesoprano Yeah but that's just for the trophy. There should be a second league with promotion to the MLS and relegation from the MLS to said league.
Soccer isn't popular enough in the United States to allow for a financially viable pro/rel system. The second and third divisions in the united states are like non league level teams in England. They are largely semi pro and no team could financially survive going down a division, it would force them into insolvency.
It's good to see soccer growing in the USA and starting to take off. With a team or teams in each state will accelerate this.
Only league that you win a trophy in derbies, Derby and Nottingham Forest already beat the US to that.
I love watching L.A.F.C , Portland , Seattle . Atlanta . KC , Galaxy , Austin . Fans are amazing .
You can’t say Red Bulls and NYCFC are big rivals. NYCFC literally just became a club a couple of years ago and there’s barely any history. Toronto and Montreal should be in this video. 2 cities that actually hate each other for other reasons besides soccer.
If you came to one of the NY derby games, you would know the hatred between the teams.
Apple Pie FC Just because there is hate doesn't mean there is meaning to the rivalry. They just hate eachother for the fun of it. It's not like european rivalries where there is history and actual reasons to dislike the other team.
We hate each other because we’re rivals
Boston and NYC
No DC United? LA Galaxy? The 2 most historical MLS clubs?
#EmptySeatsGalore
Tinpot clubs
LA is so overrated.
And Sporting KC we have a lot of history and always have done pretty well, we have a big rivalry with Houston also
JPBrown22 they have the most trophies. Overrated my ass
Thanks for making this video. Even if it's sponsored by adidas and the MLS
I went to the Portland Seattle game in Seattle and is was incredible. Best game I've been to atmosphere wise. I also went to Vancouver during the trip as well. Beautiful city and great culture and just a great trip. The best part was the march to the stadium and there was a park where all the fans hung out. I was really jealous of that and hope it come to Colorado soon. Really recommend it and was just so heart warming to see that my sport, football, has made a step hold in my country. Hopefully it spreads throughout.
2:24 "It's the only league I know that actually wins a trophy when you're playing a derby game"
Not heard of the _The Brian Clough Trophy_ for Derby County vs N***s F****t matches then.
The problem is all the cheerleaders and props just FUCKING SING
What cheerleaders?
I can't help but laugh at the MLS
Everyone laughs at you!
Robin J710 Listen, you don't have to like the MLS. As an American, I admit our level of play is nowhere near over in Europe, but for me, it's still a fun league to watch. Again, you don't have to enjoy it, but don't spoil our fun.
I can't help but laugh you. Did you just hate in a league you know nothing about? RJ7102000
Anyone here after us failed to qualify?
0:29 copies every english song in existance
J jamie and why palace of all clubs? Palace fans and their songs are annoying.
Love how the New York “fans” have beef. New York Red Bulls have history darn it. Except the Ny/Nj Metrostars who were there before and the red bulls are about two decades old. It’s just manufactured cringe.
MLS is a joke. Most English clubs go back over 120 years, and their rivalries have roots in competing working groups, who were competing just to survive back then. Here you've got MLS fans trying to recreate that artificially lol. GTFO.
To me personally... the MLS will ALWAYS have my heart with me being an Los Angeles Galaxy fan. But... being that I watch A LOT of Premier League if I had to compare a young Darby in the MLS to one Darby in the Premier League I would say the Cascadia Cup would take the cake in my opinion so take that with a grain of salt being that they're so many GOOD DARBY MATCHES in the Premier League. Bringing it back to Vancouver, Portland, and Seattle Cascadia Cup battles, It's just so much history with those 3 clubs and North American Soccer/Football in general.The supporters brought that cup which is still crazy to this day. It just show how much passion those club supporters have. Hopefully the LAFC vs L.A. Galaxy rivaly lives up to the hype.
dude, you can't even fucking spell "derby". the fucking irony...
Tom well my bad thanks for pointing that out!
We, europeans Hate the mls, because we also hate the money based modern football, so when you show us a league where everything is fabricated to marketing pusposes and to make money, we are going to hate it, show us something genuine not a fucking adidas comercial ffs.
Agreed. And what happens in the US spills out worldwide. Crystal Palace now have cheerleaders. Soon it'll be fucking t-shirt cannons & half time shows. Already the world cup has a ridiculous "Superbowl-esque" half-time show.. THAT BEGAN IN WORLD CUP USA 1994. AMERICA DID THAT. And now we have to listen to fucking David Guetta and The Black Eyed Peas during a fucking match, when all we want is beer and some steak and kidney pie. Fuck off with your fake, money-driven, soulless, corporate bastardisation of our HISTORY.
I appreciate learning an actual reason behind the hate. I'm an American (in portland oregon) who lived in England for a couple of years when I was a kid. So it always hurts me when I see so much hate hurled at the MLS from the British and other Europeans. I remember growing up and constantly hearing "why don't Americans care about football?" Well now we do and we get so much hate for it.
While I can understand why you would hate this let me briefly explain the other side. We hate it too. Most of us love soccer because of the lack of commercialization. You don't get the 5 minute long commercial breaks after every stop in play like you do with American sports. When NYFC joined the league, the team, fans, and players were constantly ridiculed by mls fans. This was the league's attempt to fabricate a new York rivalry for fans and try and lure Manchester city fans over here. (Just like they did with chivas) but there's a reason for this.
In order to grow the league this has to be done. They're trying to draw the eye of the casual observers so that they too can fall in love with the league. Nycfc was the most hated team in the league coming in but they've actually earned back a lot of respect. the team and fans have showed that the origins of the team don't matter, it's the heart of the team and fans that matter. Also David villa is incredible and an all around cool guy.
So my point is that we hate the commercialazation too. You can hate the league all you want, they're just doing what they have to do to survive. But if you look at the teams individually, the players and the fans, you'll see heart and passion. You'll see a love for the beautiful game.
Than watch MLS. It's a genuine league. There is a lot of promotion for it because there are so many more sports in the US. Euros don't use their brains when commenting.
André Moreira Portooooooo caralhooooo
Oh the irony
Great video! Please make an updated version with the new "Battle of Los Angeles: El Tráfico" rivalry. Also, no TFC/Impact mention?
Put all MLS games on broadcast TV to gain more support for the league and get young people into the sport which many can't see because many can't afford cable/internet to see games behind a paywall. Kids emulate what they see more often like Basketball,Baseball,Football,Track & Field. Leave pro/rel to other countries and leagues that have decades of history,support for the sport as a whole and deeper talent. Not that the US doesn't have talent,we do just not enough from all economic backgrounds like other countries do.
The main issue I have with the MLS is that they've followed the mould of all other American sports in terms of league structure and team ownership. For example, NO relegation/promotion from 2nd tier and the clubs are Franchises, so essentially it's a league full of MK Dons, I could go and apply for an MLS license, buy a club then relocate it thousands of miles away with a new name. I could also just buy a club and apply straight for an MLS license with a team that's never played a single game of Football !......and a trophy for a Derby game??? Come on, really. Oh yeah, and the way it goes to a playoff and essentially a cup competition so the team that finishes 4th in their separate league can be crowned champs if they win the playoffs !!!
Make a video on VAK-P Ultras and how they havent attended home games since april after their own club (Fc Twente) has betrayed them. The club recently put cameras on the stands and the Ultras found out. Pls COPA 90 Make a video on this 🙏
Bob Bob helemaal mee eens, ondanks dat ik een AZ supporter in hart en nieren ben heb ik toch respect voor vak-P, altijd een achter hun club staan en de keren dat ik bij Twente ben geweest een mooie sfeer. Respect!
They've all got nothing on the old firm. Best derby in the world by far!
I came here to read the many positive comments from people around the world who are happy that the beautiful game is growing in the US and Canada.
Austin vs Columbus snake derby needs to be a thing
owner of austin (anthony precourt) used to own columbus and tried to move it, long story short the state threatened to sue mls into the ground and the league decided to give precourt a new franchise and sell the columbus team.
an unknown columbus supporter flew a plane over austin’s new stadium on their first match stating, “precourt is a snake”
many of the columbus chants still end with “fuck you precourt” and “fuck you precourt, we are the crew”
Chicago-Dallas? I mean shit, that rivalry has existed for a long time. Way back when Dallas was still called Burn. It's called the Brimstone Cup.
League has room to grow
Instead of pulling the sympathy card, showing a inferiority complex and talking about how you don't care what anyone thinks of the league nor American soccer DESPITE SHOWING OTHERWISE, why don't the league just prove it. Until MLS rivalries develop more and grow history, it's not going to be a big deal. I'm not talking about history as in using a recycled one from a previous first division league like Seattle versus Portland. I'm talking about a consistent rivalry that stretches out through decades nonstop. Right now, all of the MLS rivalries are over hyped and lack real hatred in it. Furthermore, the league's marketing of it makes it look gimmicky. Rivalry week? Really? MLS is not even trying to hide their marketing strategy, but it's still hidden good enough for their passionate fans to be blind towards it. Rivalries are one of the things that draw lots of interest in many sporting events. MLS sees that and is trying to mimic it for marketing reasons. MLS clubs don't have rivalries because of the passion nor hatred each team have for one another, but for the profit values of it through ratings and ticket sales. Fans get invested into what they feel is a rivalry and what they really get is a normal soccer match with a few weak hits here and there. The fans are the ones that put in most of the work to make it look like a rivalry in the end and even that's weak. I see fans wanting a rivalry for the sake of having a rivalry.
Can’t have decades of history in a league that isn’t decades old. Give it time, it is already rising fast
The MLS is not scum it's just boring, the Liga MX is way better all the way .... Tigres, Xolos,Monterrey,Pachuca,Chivas, etc so far Liga Mx is better in Concacaf
Dude mls has done somethimg in 10 years that took liga mx 60 years to do. We are still a young league.
Lord Loss Though I can't deny the history of Mexican clubs winning the CCL , this year could be different. I am not aware if you watch MLS since you find it boring but this years TFC is a record setting team that can match up man for man against any Mexican side. You might be in for a surprise. The only problem is that it is played during MLS preseason.
Rob Roux TFC might win CCL this year
Agreed. I also dont really like how modern all the logos and names are. Like why do we all need a mascot in the name. Not really a big deal, just kind of puts me off. Also there is almost no local football which needs to be fixed if football will actually grow.
And the argentine super ligue, the brazilian primera, the colombian league, and the libertadores are all better but we aint showing off so chill mate
They will never understand what is football, for them is just hobie. They have rivalries, derbys ? Are you kiding me ? Plastic people, plastic country. I have feling that they started watching football like 10 years ago, but for exaple in my case, my grandfather was fan, my father was one of leaders of ultras group, and he join me in ultras group when i was one and half years old, and my first game was when I was 2 years old on North ultras stand. How can they understand that ? Football is not something that you choose to support, it is something what you born with, it is in your blood. First awaygame, first pryo, first fight, first aresting, it is not a sport, for them it is. No history, no true love, no passion, this is just some Americans copy football, so i am glad they call it soocer, because it is not football. Greating from Sarajevo
You hate mls because you hate Americans. Chill out. Yes yes, for decades America got to parade around and say they're the best at everything...so I can understand why Europeans want to hold one over them....but fact is, more and more of your players are coming here. Especially if you're young talent. Great place to go on loan and develop.
I can think of at least 20 other leagues in which the mls is better than.....I don't hear anyone talk shit about the saudi league... 🙄
There's no mention of any MLS games in Europe 😂
NYC is Blue
Crazy Dyablo NY is blue*
No
If you want a rivalry go to the old firm
There is no old firm.
+AG O
That’s only still a bitter rivalry in the minds of Rangers fans... Celtic are more worried about how they do in the Champions League each season than about beating Rangers
Its probably one of the worst derbys these days. Boring play style and a almost obvious result.
Imagine if all the best athletes in the U.S. actually played soccer as their main sport instead of basketball, football etc. We'd dominate. Period. its only getting bigger and bigger here. we already do better than England in big tournaments. not that thats saying much
The New York rivalry makes headlines in Europe 😂😂😂😂😂😂 keep dreaming
It must be annoying to hear the constant criticism of your league, but let's be real - most of my clothes are older than these "rivalries" lol. My team was founded in 1892, and I'm a 5th generation supporter. That shit's in my blood. Can't even compare. #ynwa
Enigmatic considering the league has only been around for 20 years yea it's kinda hard to compete with 100 year old clubs
+Enigmatic
So it’s MLS’s fault that they’re not as old?
What are you trying to say?
Enigmatic hahaha @ your great-great grandfather for supporting a club with no history, that also initially copied their "rival's" kit.
See how you sound? I'm not a fan of them overhyping rivalries in MLS but give it time.
Enigmatic the only idiot here comparing is you tho. MLS just started to grow what do you expect shut up and sit down
At least I can say we did better than England in the 1930 world cup
How insecure do they have to be to try and prove to people that they actually have rivalries.
Tomorrow here in Glasgow we will have the first old game of the season, the fact they are actually saying that they can compare to fixtures such as;
Barca v Real
Celtic v Rangers*
Red star v Partizan Belgrade
Dortmund v S04
Legia Warsaw v Lech Poznan
Inter v Milan
Roma v Lazio
Porto v Benfica
It really surprises me how the one lassie says that in Europe we are born into a football team, we do not choose. Hahahaha what, I would rather be born into one of the worst teams in my nation than decide one day I'm going to support the new team on the block. Americans are starting to make noise in New York with this derby when I haven't seen one article or video of the fan violence/tension as seen all over Europe. They are also arguing over who is the most original fans, how can you take an argument seriously from a guy that supports a team formed in 2013 and a guy that supports a club that has been bank rolled by a major company. Save the trouble and stick to American football.
But Rangers supporters let their club die.
+Callum
Opinions like this one are a joke.
Basically, in a nutshell, I see from reading all this that it makes you insecure to see Americans enjoying Association football, because you love it and you think it sets you apart from Americans. That if we start loving the sport, it won’t be unique for you anymore...
Piss off. It’s the world’s game.
You Europeans make fun of us for not being into soccer, then make fun of us for being into it. We can’t win...
Also, if you’re going to claim that Man City and Liverpool and Man United aren’t corporate-owned and don’t care about money, you’re full of it.
You WANT fan violence? Now that’s just ridiculous lmao. American soccer fans aren’t shitty hooligans, sorry.
Swansea v Cardiff
Man UTD v City
Man UTD v Liverpool
Sheff UTD v Wednesday
Palace v Brighton
Liverpool v Everton
North London Drby
Chelsea v WestHam
Villa v BCity
(Probably forgetting quite a few)
All of the above are true ground rootes rivalries and are all filled with explosive passion which makes them all better than these plastic MLS derbys. Thats just one country....
The Lord what do you expect, MlLS is just coming alive. Rivalries take time and supporters will eventually find their voice. I would think that's commonsense but guess not for everyone...
English fan here:
Both the NY clubs in this are so fucking corporate and manufactured. Cosmos deserve to be in that league far more than either of them plastic clubs do.
The Cascadia rivalries look good though, quality fan culture and looks a lot of fun.
The Toronto-Montreal rivalry shoulda been mentioned, one of the few real deep-rooted rivalries in the MLS that transcends football.
Also, if Americans want to know why we struggle to respect your league, I went to an MLS game last year, and not just any, it was a play-off between Montreal and NYRB, hardly some meaningless game, and the attendance was dire (like 20% of the stadium at most). Until this is sorted out (which in all fairness it does seem to be changing), Europeans are really gonna struggle to look at your league as anything other than a corporate, manufactured and plastic league.
Also the absolute nerve to compare seeing the birth of NYCFC - a club manufactured by a large corporate entity and immediately put into the top league because money - to the birth of a club like Liverpool - a club made by local working class people in their own neighbourhood to represent their community - is beyond a joke.
MLS is a pay-to-play league. If you want a club, it's a $100M+ entry fee. As romantic as it is to have a club start from the ground up like in Europe, it's not the American dream. Get rich quick!
@@goatscansing the exact reason my club will never be in the MLS it costs 100mil my club barely has 10
Americans creating soccer rivalries like its a new fashion or something what a Cringe league. Even the fans look really goofy soccer try hards.. stop it already.
I wont be sorry for the insults and i will never follow this mediocre league. For the time lets point the finger and laugh at it. Your rivalries are so special at the sametime have no silverware to show for.
+Fortaleza Azul
So what are US soccer fans allowed to do then, O Great Leader?
I believe that we will win. You're not singing over there. USA USA USA...