A few people (correctly) pointed out that i wasn't live looping in this video, so I made a short to illustrate how you can live loop: th-cam.com/users/shortsFC-lQmPrdPo?feature=share
I was gonna say the same😄 Glad to know it can do stuff like that, I would imagine an Ableton Move next to a Minilogue XD, mixing live recording tracks with the internal drum sounds☕🥐
this was great, im a guitarist first and foremost, and so i always look at groveboxes to see how i can use them as loopers. i went looking for a looper a few years ago and ended up with a elektron octatrack as my looper as i could pre select track lengths. one thing i was hoping with the move was the ability to record clips with preset lengths like on push, im hopeful that future updates will give us that ability. that first transient clip edit would be great, again, fantastic video my friend (i dont know how i stumbled on your channel, but grateful for the algorithm bringing me here)
I'm so glad you found it useful! I would also love a clip length functionality. Move works as a live looper if you have instruments you can use with one hand, but with guitars this is pretty difficult.
Would’ve been great if ableton just built this to record clips. That’s a core part of live workflow, can’t believe that feature didn’t make it in here.
Yes. I almost bought one immediately, assuming clip recording and launching was a core function. I was shocked to find out it wasn't there. Glad I waited.
I dont think you should call it looper as this suggest live Looping which is not really possible when stopping and changing start points....this is no where near a Boss looper xD
That's true. You can use it as a live looper for "one handed" instruments, because you have to manually start the sample recording. But that doesn't compare to a Boss looper, unless you have a footswitch mapped to the drum samples you want to record (which is totally possible, but impracticle)
Ableton said that they won't be adding more tracks, the focus is to add features across 4 stable tracks. An auto-trim on longer audio is also problematic as if you are recording audio that has a rest on the 1, or starts a bar later. Be nice to have it as a setting to toggle on/off but it can't guest the intent.
was wandering if it is possible to record vocals live (while other tracks are playing), and it look like yes (just switch guitar to vocals), thx for the video
Cool video! So for a full song the only way would be to use that max sample time of 4 minutes, you can't tie the scenes together in some sort of song mode, correct? Could you perform your song with scene changes while you're resampling so you then have the full song playing as a sample, kind of like a mixdown? The use case for me would be for it to be a backing (multi)track and it seems OP-1 and MPCs are a bit expensive. I also like the Sonicware Lofi XT but it's also too deep for what I want.
Nice video. I was thinking of just directly connecting my Spark Go for recording bass and guitar samples. Do you really need an audio interface, since Move already has one?
No, you don't need an audio interface. I just used the zoom so I could run both the bass and the guitar through it, since that would be hard otherwise, going from a guitar jack to an aux cable. So if you can connect the spark go through the input of Move, you're all set
I'm sorry could you help me understand how the connection was done? the output from triple threat is inside zoom input and zoom output is directly into move?
@@flundlip ok. I was thinking the triple threat could enter directly Move, but then I understood it's a regular pedal fx, so mono jack in and mono jack out
Really? That's a bummer. I found that it doesn't connect well through the USB-c but it does connect well through the USB-A. Don't know if that's the same issue you're having. But I'm pretty confident they're gonna improve on some of the connectivity issues. So let's hope for the best 😬
@ yeah also was having a hard time with ableton link staying connected with the torso T1. That could be the T1s fault though, can’t tell. I will say it’s very cool as a stand-alone. Very easy to use which makes the workflow effortless but also it’s has half the sounds of what a MC 101 offers. So I ended up getting a MC 101
It's looping, but you're right. It's not live looping. I'll make a video showing real live looping on it. I edited out a few of the parts that explained how it works looping wise because they got a little too dry and boring. But I'll try and do another video on it
It’s sampling rather than looping as you need to adjust the start point of your phrase and sync it to tempo manually. I’d love for it to have live looping or live sampling options !
While I am very impressed and interested in this hardware iteration of what is the IOS version of Ableton., I am curious why it is that everyone has forgotten about the Roland MV-101. Ostensibly the same beast.
@ I’m more of a Bitwig user. But from what I’ve heard (and will totally confess that my info could be wrong) is that the Move is ostensively a hardware version of the iOS app for Live. Much like Push 3, MPC Live/x/one and Maschine + are crappy Single Board Computers running Linux. Maybe we crack open a Move and find an outdated iPhone sitting in there. I’m just saying…there are a lot of products being sold that are just crappy PC’s with Linux…Korg’s new line up comes to mind.
It's not a hardware version on Note. It doesn't even integrate with Note the way it does with Live yet. Whoever started that comparison is goofy.@@TheLordcasio
… 4 minutes long samples but you can only play back 60 seconds! Bummed to learn that tracks you edit in live that were made in Note don’t update to Note? And I don’t mean adding a 5th track or a vst.. just simply tweaking its own parameters or adding midi notes to a synth part.
A few people (correctly) pointed out that i wasn't live looping in this video, so I made a short to illustrate how you can live loop: th-cam.com/users/shortsFC-lQmPrdPo?feature=share
Thanks for showing this. This is the first video I found that shows how to record real instrument “tracks” into the Move.
I was gonna say the same😄
Glad to know it can do stuff like that, I would imagine an Ableton Move next to a Minilogue XD, mixing live recording tracks with the internal drum sounds☕🥐
I'm glad you found it useful! Thank you for watching and commenting
this was great, im a guitarist first and foremost, and so i always look at groveboxes to see how i can use them as loopers. i went looking for a looper a few years ago and ended up with a elektron octatrack as my looper as i could pre select track lengths.
one thing i was hoping with the move was the ability to record clips with preset lengths like on push, im hopeful that future updates will give us that ability.
that first transient clip edit would be great,
again, fantastic video my friend (i dont know how i stumbled on your channel, but grateful for the algorithm bringing me here)
I'm so glad you found it useful! I would also love a clip length functionality. Move works as a live looper if you have instruments you can use with one hand, but with guitars this is pretty difficult.
Would’ve been great if ableton just built this to record clips. That’s a core part of live workflow, can’t believe that feature didn’t make it in here.
@@dnaflr2 I bet it will really soon
Yes. I almost bought one immediately, assuming clip recording and launching was a core function. I was shocked to find out it wasn't there. Glad I waited.
True! Ableton 1.0 was only audio clips. It's the core functionality! and something you'd like to able to do in the field
I dont think you should call it looper as this suggest live Looping which is not really possible when stopping and changing start points....this is no where near a Boss looper xD
I completely agree. I own the Move, and it definitely doesn't perform well as a live looper.
I wonder what would happen if you put a note at the start of the sequence that was as many bars are the sequence is long?
That's true. You can use it as a live looper for "one handed" instruments, because you have to manually start the sample recording. But that doesn't compare to a Boss looper, unless you have a footswitch mapped to the drum samples you want to record (which is totally possible, but impracticle)
@@flundlip I see you made a video of this concept! You owe me a nickel!
Ableton said that they won't be adding more tracks, the focus is to add features across 4 stable tracks. An auto-trim on longer audio is also problematic as if you are recording audio that has a rest on the 1, or starts a bar later. Be nice to have it as a setting to toggle on/off but it can't guest the intent.
That thing is pretty cool. 🤔🤯
was wandering if it is possible to record vocals live (while other tracks are playing), and it look like yes (just switch guitar to vocals), thx for the video
Cool video! So for a full song the only way would be to use that max sample time of 4 minutes, you can't tie the scenes together in some sort of song mode, correct? Could you perform your song with scene changes while you're resampling so you then have the full song playing as a sample, kind of like a mixdown? The use case for me would be for it to be a backing (multi)track and it seems OP-1 and MPCs are a bit expensive. I also like the Sonicware Lofi XT but it's also too deep for what I want.
Nice video. I was thinking of just directly connecting my Spark Go for recording bass and guitar samples. Do you really need an audio interface, since Move already has one?
No, you don't need an audio interface. I just used the zoom so I could run both the bass and the guitar through it, since that would be hard otherwise, going from a guitar jack to an aux cable. So if you can connect the spark go through the input of Move, you're all set
I'm sorry could you help me understand how the connection was done? the output from triple threat is inside zoom input and zoom output is directly into move?
@@superandrew_ Sure! So you got it right, it's guitar going into triple threat going into zoom going into move
@@flundlip ok. I was thinking the triple threat could enter directly Move, but then I understood it's a regular pedal fx, so mono jack in and mono jack out
Its a very cool device but it didnt connect to my hardware midi correctly. Great vid
Really? That's a bummer. I found that it doesn't connect well through the USB-c but it does connect well through the USB-A. Don't know if that's the same issue you're having. But I'm pretty confident they're gonna improve on some of the connectivity issues. So let's hope for the best 😬
@ yeah also was having a hard time with ableton link staying connected with the torso T1. That could be the T1s fault though, can’t tell.
I will say it’s very cool as a stand-alone. Very easy to use which makes the workflow effortless but also it’s has half the sounds of what a MC 101 offers. So I ended up getting a MC 101
they could make this a live looper. but they didn’t sadly 😢
This is not live looping. That’s not even looping.
It's looping, but you're right. It's not live looping. I'll make a video showing real live looping on it. I edited out a few of the parts that explained how it works looping wise because they got a little too dry and boring. But I'll try and do another video on it
It’s sampling rather than looping as you need to adjust the start point of your phrase and sync it to tempo manually. I’d love for it to have live looping or live sampling options !
@flundlip, Yeah this isn’t looping (live or otherwise). As mentioned above this is sampling, which isn’t looping.
While I am very impressed and interested in this hardware iteration of what is the IOS version of Ableton., I am curious why it is that everyone has forgotten about the Roland MV-101. Ostensibly the same beast.
I've never even heard of it. But I think the integration with Ableton Live is what really gives it a lot of value for me
@ I’m more of a Bitwig user. But from what I’ve heard (and will totally confess that my info could be wrong) is that the Move is ostensively a hardware version of the iOS app for Live. Much like Push 3, MPC Live/x/one and Maschine + are crappy Single Board Computers running Linux. Maybe we crack open a Move and find an outdated iPhone sitting in there. I’m just saying…there are a lot of products being sold that are just crappy PC’s with Linux…Korg’s new line up comes to mind.
It's not a hardware version on Note. It doesn't even integrate with Note the way it does with Live yet. Whoever started that comparison is goofy.@@TheLordcasio
what sucks about this currently is how inaccurate trimming clips is
… 4 minutes long samples but you can only play back 60 seconds!
Bummed to learn that tracks you edit in live that were made in Note don’t update to Note? And I don’t mean adding a 5th track or a vst.. just simply tweaking its own parameters or adding midi notes to a synth part.
I suspect that will be possible in the future. Some kind of special "Move Project" option
this is not "looping"
@@cesarcarreno_ I made a short that you can find in the comments that explains the live looping aspect in greater detail
To expensive.