Very cool machine, I'd love to see this running with an external monitor/keyboard (assuming it can do that) since the idea of having one tiny portable gaming system that can also be popped onto the desk and used for normal day-to-day productivity work is very interesting.
@@michaelbmw1931 Oculink is a port that passes through PCI-Express lanes to an external port. The port itself looks like a smaller DisplayPort jack (not mini-DisplayPort, and no, a DisplayPort cable won't fit). Unlike Thunderbolt: - There's no licensing fee from Intel or any other company - There's no other conversion stuff going on, for better and for worse, which means: - Not plug-and-play. So unplugging an Oculink cable with a live load on it is almost the same thing as pulling a PCI-Express card out while the system is powered on. You probably won't fry your motherboard, but your OS ain't gonna like it. So plug it in before you turn on your system, and unplug it AFTER you power down! - It doesn't carry power. So whatever's plugged into that Oculink cable will need its own power source. Since the most common use case is an external graphics card, you're going to need a power supply for it anyway. - No security--at least not to the degree that Thunderbolt has to prevent hacking attempts through PCI-Express. - At the same speeds when compared to Thunderbolt and USB4, it'll generally perform better.
@@michaelbmw1931 better version of thunderbolt with x2 bandwidth, but not popular, only on handheld device, on other device they sell a adapter switch call m2 nvme to oculink
Man GPD are going strong I heard there are some people having problems with after sales stuff, but they seemed to be focused on being a dedicated portable PC brand. I really hope they get things sorted. Part of me wants to start a collection with all there stuff but man I don't have that kind of money, lol
It’s the generation of AI slaves that are obeying every command. humans would have no need for basic mundane chores just slave ai to do it. Now let’s not talk about cloning because that’s just wrong and distasteful. X @gatesroyle
@@israelramirez0202 I guess you can personalize your AI experience and make it more family orientated but having an AI slave separates the emotional connection between you and the non-human slave.
@@Maximus20778 what the hell is persona sorry but I've never heard of it sounds old. I'm not old sir. I'm youthful. TT@fattohealthy. The best generation to be alive in besides the rising costs but hey we got awesome technology. I can't believe people used to dream about this stuff back in the day when I was born into it.
GPD made the first impressive portable console back in the day, as far as I remember. I remember it not quite being good enough for me to buy though, waited a few years and bam! Look at them now. Portable consoles are the most exciting part of gaming these days, how rapidly they're being improved is crazy. Imagine when self-learning AI plays a role in speeding up technological advancement, that's when things are REALLY gonna get crazy.
Honestly all thats left is to have an order of magniture in efficiency, ie total power consumption is sub 10w (and thats including the screen at max brightness and at full load) But not being power limited, the silicon itself needs to be that efficient. The current performance is fine, maybe closer to rx 6600 in performance but its the efficiency thats the issue. with a 40whr+ battery, that would mean 5-6 hours on a handheld, its basically a phone replacement lmao.
what I would love to see, is a high end video card tested in a desktop, and then over OCuLink, to see how much you lose from handheld. I know you have everything needed to make that happen. Please post a video on it :)
@@trakaiszeks really? Those two tell you about the malware? The deadzones? The square analog sticks? How about the failing SSDs? You’re insane if you think ETA and Phawx are comprehensive. They simply care about getting devices from GPD for their videos. They will never actually look out for you.
I really like this!! The price is a good deal for what is offered too in my opinion. So many handhelds are being released. I don't know which one to choose.😐
Different brands flip-flop in quality frequently too. GPD was making some weird moves with older models(having known issues and not doing much about them), now they're making a bit more effort to keep people happy. Aya Neo started with a solid model but recent models have shown an apparent degradation in quality.
This is probably the UMPC with the smartest overall design out of the new generation. The only ergonomic improvement I can think of is switching the standard ANSI layout for a stripped down ISO layout that's a bit better centerd to reduce thumb strain while typing.
This would be my dream handheld gaming device, if not for one minor thing: Windows, or being more specific, the lack of quick suspend and quick resume feature, like we have it on the Steam Deck. Unfortunately, this is a big deal breaker for me, since I very often play my games in short sessions, which is only possible if I can quickly turn it off in the middle of the game, turn it back on when needed, and just continue playing. There's still hope with ChimeraOS, let's hope it will work well on the Mini.
Looks pretty good. Would love to see you pop back to the ayaneo 2S and geek 1S to check their performance now that they e released the fast memory BIOS. And maybe a look at a few linux distros/ steamos alternatives now that theyve had some time to work on those distros
This thing is just so cute 😭 I'm seriously considering selling my laptop and buying this to use as my main PC. The only thing that's concerning is the typing experience. I'd like to see and hear more about how comfortable it is to type on.
Man if I was an onsite tech I’d be using one of these. At my work we hotdesk and WFH with a 13” laptop. Since we almost never use the built in displays for important work I’d rather have one of these in my bag.
I really, Really Want someone out there to Review a 7640 version of this, Due to its size I think that chip would be plenty, with Less heat, and probably more battery life.
This looks cool. My only issue is that GPD seems to drop support for their products pretty quickly. But maybe that has changed since my purchase of the GPD MicroPC a few years ago.
They're all like that. Most handheld console manufacturers want to sell their product and have the customer move on to the next version within a year or two.
Pretty much the only PC handheld with actual long term support thus far has been the steam deck. Sure these and the ones from Asus and kther manufacturers are cool but you pretty much have to look at them like youre buying a low powered gaming laptop with little support after launch. The steam deck is more of a console like expirence and steam is actually insentivised to support it because the longer they support it the more people will buy games on their store to play on it.
@@GhostAcez they aren’t really any more motivated than anyone else, they get the money from the games purchased either way. Buy a gpd mini? Buy Steam games. Buy an Asus whatever it is? Buy Steam games. Steam gets the sales regardless.
GPD never fail to launch a product that goes straight into my wishlist, and this time with a lower size and price too! Currently own Pocket3 and using it for work and Win4 for personal use..but haven't use it much since it is performance-wise worse than my personal Desktop and the screen isn't 120hz so rthym game isn't that good on it, ended up occasionally play turn based game/ 2d rpg.
Running full windows on a 3DS-like device that you can dock for full desktop PC performance... The future is now old man... If (or when) I can buy one, I would love to make a "slot in" kind of dock, with added cooling and the like. Quite literally a gaming PC in your pocket.
magnets could cause an issue with the interference of triggers or sticks but I agree they should make a design where triggers were more easily attached. Carrying around the grips could become a chore after some time
I believe the grips sit very low in relation to where the actual bump shoulder buttons are. The marketing pictures are a little deceiving in that regard.
@@AdmiralBison This is the only part of the Nintendo Switch that all these handheld PC's don't borrow from, and it would have been perfect for these handles. Screwing them in all the time is a huge miss.
Obviously it will help them perform better. But tbh stuff like dlss, fsr and what not are like a cheap way for company’s to boast about their framerates. It’s more impressing to see the raw performance
Great to see all the mini handheld pcs hitting the market. AMD really own this market. Nvidia and Intel need to step up. This devices is not for me prefer my ally but definitely great idea and great to see more takes on designs.
9:34. Look at the frame rate. Barely changing. And just looking at it. Excellent frame times. Pretty good consistency. I mean that seems to be a real benefit for APUs. Their architecture it's is designed for such close quarters operation. You really do get better throughput. On average with an APU. That's also what's so good about X3D chips. But the fact that they include oculink. That's a feature rather than an option. Makes me excited to see its performance. And the controls. Chefs kiss. 👌 Symmetrical and hall sensor. The only problem I can see with the controls is those damn dumb thumbsticks. I was thinking maybe you could get a Dremel. And just hollow the suckers out. Or maybe even and aftermarket thumbstick keycap. That gives it height. For more accuracy. And his jelly like for comfort and grippiness. But if they're too high. It might not be able to close. Other than that this thing is freakin amazing.!!!! And definitely I would love to see the overclocked version without the use of a hockey link connected GPU. But certainly an over a clock with an oculate GPU as well.! "But as always.!" Awesome machine. Excellent review. Badass video.!
Hey! But having vrr would make it better? I dont know im trying to get a pc handheld gaming console and on Reddit and Rog ally fans says vrr is very important and i found so many people refunded the onexfly because it doesn’t include vrr..
@@Itsfrogzilla Well you will get tearing. But it will be vertical. Not horizontal. But it's both good and bad. Bad in that it's tearing at all. But good in that it tears consistently. And does so consistently in the same way. And usually. Your brain will start to filter that out. You won't even see it anymore. But if you look. You will always see it. But the tearing will really only be visible at lower frame rates. Also it's not something that is as noticeable for a smaller screen. Which is why having this type of screen on this type of device is even seen as acceptable at all. Because in this form factor it's much more difficult to notice. But if you are examining it specifically for that function. You will notice it. But based off of its performance. As long as you have the settings correctly configured. It's not something you should really notice.! I'm not sure how much help this information was. But good luck. 👍
@@I86282 thank you so much! Every day im learning more about vrr and handheld devices 😃 hopefully there’ll be a device with vrr before the end of the year
Or some type of slide rail. Or it should have been a grip case. The grips look necessary to be comfortable, but the comfort completely ruins the portability of the device. Having to manually unscrew and screw it seems very… not consumer friendly
Please test more various triple A titles especially the recent ones. My request is Baldur’s Gate 3. I can imagine it’s gonna be comfortable playing on this form factor.
I wonder how long are we going to have to wait until we can get at least 6 hours of autonomy from devices like this. I'm surprised by the performance but I'm never going to get used to the abismal battery life 😢.
I'd love to see Nier Replicant. It is not an amazing looker, but the engine is pretty inefficient. My 1660ti in my laptop cant hold a steady 60 at 1080p. It would be nice to see how it runs on this. Great video and thank you for your consideration.
How many hours of battery life is it realistic to get out of it at the most? Lets say 60Hz, 50% brightness and browsing, watching a movie or playing a low-end indie title like the Turtles or similar
Thanks for the great vid! Quick question: is the screen a touch screen? Went to 2 videos where nobody mentioned about it, but saw just that 1 moment where you touched the screen like it does support touch, so kinda hopeful. Not having touch for a screen size this small is not going to be comfortable. Also, is the screen natively landscape or portrait?
The GPD discord is full of both praise and complaints of GPD products, even the new ones. Things like hinge cracking, charging not working, ghost cursor and much more. Hope GPD finds a way to improve their quality control and after sales support.
I just really wish other manufacturers would work with Valve on picking up officially supported Steam OS as a OS choice on purchase as Windows 11 is the big reason I still won't really consider these other handhelds as Windows 11 is awful on handhelds and has soooo much bloat, after using the Steam Deck I can't see myself going back to Windows for a handheld.
@@michaelbmw1931 a proprietary OS made by valve for the steam deck based on Linux. It’s designed to be controller first, mimicking a console like experience, but it is still a full desktop OS when you want it.
This is very cool, I feel the form factor is little too small. The Max is big bulky and heavy to hold but this has a fiddly keyboard and bit chunky. If they slimmed this down went to an 8" screen possibly a 9" it would be perfection. That cpu has serious firepower, the next gen of apu should negate need of a egpu. The 780m is nearly good enough.
I have to wonder if commenters are watching your videos when posting within a minute of the release of a 12 minute video. That aside great video, wondering if Steam OS would work on this or if you have tried it?
Linux compatible so I'm thinking a big yes? Random stranger throwing in his two cents. But? Really liking the specks and form factor of this. If I knew THIS was around, I might of even skipped on the Steam Deck. I've got a lot of personal fav software that runs awesome on Windows. Which actually should also include Steam itself.
Would LOVE TO SEE World of Warcraft Classic: WoTLK or World Of Warcraft Dragonflight! Been considering replacing my MSI Delta 15 with something more portable but because of the way the game engine works, it stresses single cores more than lots of other games (I think because it was a custom engine developed in 2004/5 to run optimally on the single core processors of that era?) Anyway - would love to see how it runs if you're able to make a video!
They called it the 7840 instead of 7800u to make it feel like a bigger improvement than it is over 6800u. only like 1-7% better at low watts, 10-12% high watts
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech probably the better bet. Only about 1-3% less fps and probably better efficientcy, especially after software is developed further around the 7000 series
To be honest, if you had a decent internet connection, you could use GPD alongside Shadow PC or Vagon PC - and you got pretty much a cloud gaming PC on the go
yo...at this point i'm just watching these videos for the live wallpapers! they are so SICK!!! lol for some reason i can never find the good ones in the store and he stay with a different one every time
Gaming focused devices are good and all, but I wonder whether they will make a Pocket 3 successor. The kvm module is a savior working on RPi's and headless servers.
I was wondering where you find all your great animated desktop files. This looks like it could be really great and I may just trade my steam deck in for one. I look forward to your follow ups :). Thanks
Why they switched analog stick with ABXY buttons? I'm not saying this is better or worse, but will be uncomfortable for those who uses regular controllers on daily basis and have some muscle memory. Xbox, PS, Steam Deck - they all have buttons at the right side of stick.
Cant wait to see something like this with qualcom/ nvidia combos SOC. The only thing keeping this from being my dream device is that without any cuda cores its probably not great for stuff like stable diffusion. I have seen breakthroughs for CPU gen recently! Would be cool too see how thisbhandkes dtabke diffusion and maybe some low param LLM! Either way u will get one of these and just run my ML on a server anr control it frim this!
Ngl, I Have a rog ally but this form factor is LIT !!!! Kind of disapointed by the lack of freesync, cause it really helps on low performances hardware.
Why do all of these performance reviews only operate on low settings? Is it to see how high the framerate can go without all the detail in textures/shadows etc? Most games, in my opinion look aweful at low, even on these handhelds. Just curious why this seems to be the go-to for reviewers.
Halo DS is finally a reality, if we can get an even smaller gpd device, that would be amazing. Lets see what they will release in the future. also A steam deck mini would be really cool to see. Maybe we will get one? most likely not.
Wallpaper Engine - Infinite Journeys, in case anyone else was curious about the animated desktop
Thank you! Been driving me crazy trying to figure it out! 🎉🫡
Very cool machine, I'd love to see this running with an external monitor/keyboard (assuming it can do that) since the idea of having one tiny portable gaming system that can also be popped onto the desk and used for normal day-to-day productivity work is very interesting.
it can do it with any hub, but it is designed to work best with the G1 eGPU... giving it that and also extra horsepower...
The oculink port should be able to run any eGPU well
@@JSON_bournewhat is oculink?
@@michaelbmw1931 Oculink is a port that passes through PCI-Express lanes to an external port. The port itself looks like a smaller DisplayPort jack (not mini-DisplayPort, and no, a DisplayPort cable won't fit). Unlike Thunderbolt:
- There's no licensing fee from Intel or any other company
- There's no other conversion stuff going on, for better and for worse, which means:
- Not plug-and-play. So unplugging an Oculink cable with a live load on it is almost the same thing as pulling a PCI-Express card out while the system is powered on. You probably won't fry your motherboard, but your OS ain't gonna like it. So plug it in before you turn on your system, and unplug it AFTER you power down!
- It doesn't carry power. So whatever's plugged into that Oculink cable will need its own power source. Since the most common use case is an external graphics card, you're going to need a power supply for it anyway.
- No security--at least not to the degree that Thunderbolt has to prevent hacking attempts through PCI-Express.
- At the same speeds when compared to Thunderbolt and USB4, it'll generally perform better.
@@michaelbmw1931 better version of thunderbolt with x2 bandwidth, but not popular, only on handheld device, on other device they sell a adapter switch call m2 nvme to oculink
perfect form factor for me... plus the hall effects triggers and analogs... heaven!
Man GPD are going strong I heard there are some people having problems with after sales stuff, but they seemed to be focused on being a dedicated portable PC brand. I really hope they get things sorted.
Part of me wants to start a collection with all there stuff but man I don't have that kind of money, lol
It’s the generation of AI slaves that are obeying every command. humans would have no need for basic mundane chores just slave ai to do it. Now let’s not talk about cloning because that’s just wrong and distasteful. X @gatesroyle
@@gatesroyale wut lol
@@israelramirez0202 I guess you can personalize your AI experience and make it more family orientated but having an AI slave separates the emotional connection between you and the non-human slave.
@@Maximus20778 what the hell is persona sorry but I've never heard of it sounds old. I'm not old sir. I'm youthful. TT@fattohealthy. The best generation to be alive in besides the rising costs but hey we got awesome technology. I can't believe people used to dream about this stuff back in the day when I was born into it.
Lol
I'd love to hear more on heat dissipation and linux support, especially on integrated gamepad. Thank you.
the form factor here makes it my favorite so far. One of my biggest gripes with the steam deck is its size.
GPD made the first impressive portable console back in the day, as far as I remember. I remember it not quite being good enough for me to buy though, waited a few years and bam! Look at them now. Portable consoles are the most exciting part of gaming these days, how rapidly they're being improved is crazy. Imagine when self-learning AI plays a role in speeding up technological advancement, that's when things are REALLY gonna get crazy.
Honestly all thats left is to have an order of magniture in efficiency, ie total power consumption is sub 10w (and thats including the screen at max brightness and at full load) But not being power limited, the silicon itself needs to be that efficient. The current performance is fine, maybe closer to rx 6600 in performance but its the efficiency thats the issue.
with a 40whr+ battery, that would mean 5-6 hours on a handheld, its basically a phone replacement lmao.
That's not a portable console. It's a handheld PC.
I dream about Sony Vaio P design.....
Really impressive line-up GPD now offers, but no pun intented: the difference between the Mini and Win4 is small.
the difference is a preference for clamshell or slideout form factor.
you can almost fit the mini in your pocket without it sticking out. its almost the same size as the micro pc
what I would love to see, is a high end video card tested in a desktop, and then over OCuLink, to see how much you lose from handheld. I know you have everything needed to make that happen. Please post a video on it :)
For now, I believe, only GPD is trying to stay in more or less portable form factor. Amazing device!
Your reviews as always are top noch. Love from Brazil !
I'd like to see SteamOS running on this and how it compares
just use steam big picture mode
@@musicbyKECI That isn't even remotely the same thing.
I run bazzite with this oh man its one of the best experiences so far
I'm kinda surprised that ETA is doing a fully functional video on it before The Phawx did. Definitly aint dissapointed.
Phawx is on his holidays. The Mini is apparently at his house for when he gets back.
@@captainchuppachupAh, makes sense, looking forward to that video.
Either one of them are making shill videos
@@VaydaladaVodalada Those videos are not incorrect though
@@trakaiszeks really? Those two tell you about the malware? The deadzones? The square analog sticks? How about the failing SSDs?
You’re insane if you think ETA and Phawx are comprehensive. They simply care about getting devices from GPD for their videos. They will never actually look out for you.
8:46 the results of this test showed that it was made on windows 10, why? windows 11 comes from the factory on the device
Keep up the great work! I love seeing these small PC's and your reviews are excellent!
I really like this!! The price is a good deal for what is offered too in my opinion. So many handhelds are being released. I don't know which one to choose.😐
What is the price?
Different brands flip-flop in quality frequently too. GPD was making some weird moves with older models(having known issues and not doing much about them), now they're making a bit more effort to keep people happy. Aya Neo started with a solid model but recent models have shown an apparent degradation in quality.
@@HMNNO$699
what size, form factor, design and features do like most?
All of them are using the AMD 7840U/Z1 APUs so performance are comparable across the board.
price is before shiping and taxes
This is probably the UMPC with the smartest overall design out of the new generation. The only ergonomic improvement I can think of is switching the standard ANSI layout for a stripped down ISO layout that's a bit better centerd to reduce thumb strain while typing.
Can you share where you got that train live wallpaper? It looks cool
This would be my dream handheld gaming device, if not for one minor thing: Windows, or being more specific, the lack of quick suspend and quick resume feature, like we have it on the Steam Deck. Unfortunately, this is a big deal breaker for me, since I very often play my games in short sessions, which is only possible if I can quickly turn it off in the middle of the game, turn it back on when needed, and just continue playing. There's still hope with ChimeraOS, let's hope it will work well on the Mini.
Just use hibernate
Looks pretty good. Would love to see you pop back to the ayaneo 2S and geek 1S to check their performance now that they e released the fast memory BIOS. And maybe a look at a few linux distros/ steamos alternatives now that theyve had some time to work on those distros
This thing is just so cute 😭
I'm seriously considering selling my laptop and buying this to use as my main PC. The only thing that's concerning is the typing experience. I'd like to see and hear more about how comfortable it is to type on.
wake up!
with FSR 3 coming, handheld industry will see a bright future!
Where can I get those live wallpapers and what is it called?
Man if I was an onsite tech I’d be using one of these. At my work we hotdesk and WFH with a 13” laptop. Since we almost never use the built in displays for important work I’d rather have one of these in my bag.
I still remember when their first one came out way back when we were still on Windows 7
I really, Really Want someone out there to Review a 7640 version of this, Due to its size I think that chip would be plenty, with Less heat, and probably more battery life.
This looks cool. My only issue is that GPD seems to drop support for their products pretty quickly. But maybe that has changed since my purchase of the GPD MicroPC a few years ago.
They're all like that. Most handheld console manufacturers want to sell their product and have the customer move on to the next version within a year or two.
Pretty much the only PC handheld with actual long term support thus far has been the steam deck. Sure these and the ones from Asus and kther manufacturers are cool but you pretty much have to look at them like youre buying a low powered gaming laptop with little support after launch. The steam deck is more of a console like expirence and steam is actually insentivised to support it because the longer they support it the more people will buy games on their store to play on it.
@@GhostAcez they aren’t really any more motivated than anyone else, they get the money from the games purchased either way. Buy a gpd mini? Buy Steam games. Buy an Asus whatever it is? Buy Steam games. Steam gets the sales regardless.
How would you compare this to the Rog Ally in terms of performance and overall experience ?
Great review. FYI (though you probably already know), GPD is working to improve the heat for the final retail units.
You could hold an ice pack and play maybe that would keep the heat down
GPD never fail to launch a product that goes straight into my wishlist, and this time with a lower size and price too!
Currently own Pocket3 and using it for work and Win4 for personal use..but haven't use it much since it is performance-wise worse than my personal Desktop and the screen isn't 120hz so rthym game isn't that good on it, ended up occasionally play turn based game/ 2d rpg.
Running full windows on a 3DS-like device that you can dock for full desktop PC performance... The future is now old man...
If (or when) I can buy one, I would love to make a "slot in" kind of dock, with added cooling and the like. Quite literally a gaming PC in your pocket.
Dude this is EXACTLY what I’ve been wanting as someone who grew up with a GBA SP
Hey. Awesome video as always. If possible could you pair up a 4090 with oculink egpu. I would love to see the performance with that combination.
The grips should have been magnetic. Really missed the mark having to screw and unscrew when you don’t want to use them.
Or even just slide In would have been nice for sure
magnets could cause an issue with the interference of triggers or sticks but I agree they should make a design where triggers were more easily attached.
Carrying around the grips could become a chore after some time
@@freddynzeiss
could have used some sort click attach mechanism like detachable controllers these days.
I believe the grips sit very low in relation to where the actual bump shoulder buttons are. The marketing pictures are a little deceiving in that regard.
@@AdmiralBison This is the only part of the Nintendo Switch that all these handheld PC's don't borrow from, and it would have been perfect for these handles. Screwing them in all the time is a huge miss.
Great video! I'd like to see this one ( $???? ) compared to ASUS ROG Ally ( 795€ ).
Logically this is my favourite design because the screen is higher. Except I also want something small that only uses video glasses.
curious to see what FSR3 will do for these kind off hand helds
Obviously it will help them perform better. But tbh stuff like dlss, fsr and what not are like a cheap way for company’s to boast about their framerates. It’s more impressing to see the raw performance
@@dio8070impressive sure. But battery efficient? Not so much lol. Upscaling algorithms are great for handhelds like these
@@dio8070 Being able to see handheld PC's hit 120fps in modern games is just as impressive, regardless of how it's achieved
Great to see all the mini handheld pcs hitting the market. AMD really own this market. Nvidia and Intel need to step up. This devices is not for me prefer my ally but definitely great idea and great to see more takes on designs.
I’d love to see Balder’s Gate 3 running on it!
9:34. Look at the frame rate. Barely changing. And just looking at it. Excellent frame times. Pretty good consistency.
I mean that seems to be a real benefit for APUs. Their architecture it's is designed for such close quarters operation.
You really do get better throughput. On average with an APU. That's also what's so good about X3D chips.
But the fact that they include oculink. That's a feature rather than an option. Makes me excited to see its performance.
And the controls. Chefs kiss. 👌
Symmetrical and hall sensor. The only problem I can see with the controls is those damn dumb thumbsticks.
I was thinking maybe you could get a Dremel. And just hollow the suckers out.
Or maybe even and aftermarket thumbstick keycap. That gives it height. For more accuracy. And his jelly like for comfort and grippiness.
But if they're too high. It might not be able to close.
Other than that this thing is freakin amazing.!!!!
And definitely I would love to see the overclocked version without the use of a hockey link connected GPU. But certainly an over a clock with an oculate GPU as well.!
"But as always.!" Awesome machine. Excellent review. Badass video.!
Hey! But having vrr would make it better? I dont know im trying to get a pc handheld gaming console and on Reddit and Rog ally fans says vrr is very important and i found so many people refunded the onexfly because it doesn’t include vrr..
@@Itsfrogzilla Well you will get tearing. But it will be vertical. Not horizontal. But it's both good and bad. Bad in that it's tearing at all. But good in that it tears consistently. And does so consistently in the same way. And usually. Your brain will start to filter that out. You won't even see it anymore.
But if you look. You will always see it. But the tearing will really only be visible at lower frame rates.
Also it's not something that is as noticeable for a smaller screen. Which is why having this type of screen on this type of device is even seen as acceptable at all.
Because in this form factor it's much more difficult to notice. But if you are examining it specifically for that function. You will notice it.
But based off of its performance. As long as you have the settings correctly configured. It's not something you should really notice.!
I'm not sure how much help this information was. But good luck. 👍
@@I86282 thank you so much! Every day im learning more about vrr and handheld devices 😃 hopefully there’ll be a device with vrr before the end of the year
@@Itsfrogzilla Right. The Ally will finally get a competitor.!
Good to see symmetrical gamepad layout on the kind of device that won’t benefit from asymmetrical layout.
I would love to see you running Spatial IO
Looks like the perfect dronecontroller.
AMD Ryzen APU really is the king in this segment. Love what they are doing
The grips should've been attached magnetically
Or some type of slide rail. Or it should have been a grip case. The grips look necessary to be comfortable, but the comfort completely ruins the portability of the device. Having to manually unscrew and screw it seems very… not consumer friendly
@@joker6558 yup
Please test more various triple A titles especially the recent ones. My request is Baldur’s Gate 3. I can imagine it’s gonna be comfortable playing on this form factor.
I wonder how long are we going to have to wait until we can get at least 6 hours of autonomy from devices like this. I'm surprised by the performance but I'm never going to get used to the abismal battery life 😢.
Exactly... this is not good.
What is it called or can I get that dynamic wallpaper?
There's a wallpaper program on Steam.
I'd love to see Nier Replicant. It is not an amazing looker, but the engine is pretty inefficient. My 1660ti in my laptop cant hold a steady 60 at 1080p. It would be nice to see how it runs on this. Great video and thank you for your consideration.
i want budget version with LONGER battery life and SIXTY HERTZ SCREEN
This is the design every company should go for.
Would love to see Linux running on the mini and how well games perform
How many hours of battery life is it realistic to get out of it at the most? Lets say 60Hz, 50% brightness and browsing, watching a movie or playing a low-end indie title like the Turtles or similar
I want to see TOTK performance on that bad boy 😊
I really want to see the difference between the mini and max 2, can you make a comparison?
I'm curious about that too. Especially the thermals after say a 30 min session of intense games or rendering.
I'm pretty sure it's just battery
@@kevj.3575 yeah, and if that’s so, Dow arhat mean better performance on the max 2?
Thanks for the great vid!
Quick question: is the screen a touch screen?
Went to 2 videos where nobody mentioned about it, but saw just that 1 moment where you touched the screen like it does support touch, so kinda hopeful.
Not having touch for a screen size this small is not going to be comfortable.
Also, is the screen natively landscape or portrait?
Thank you
It is touch screen, it runs in native landscape.
The GPD discord is full of both praise and complaints of GPD products, even the new ones. Things like hinge cracking, charging not working, ghost cursor and much more. Hope GPD finds a way to improve their quality control and after sales support.
This is a really good idea. can't believe no one's thought about it before.
it would be great to see Nobara or any other Linux with Gamescope on this System. Even to see if oculink would work on a Linux based OS
I just really wish other manufacturers would work with Valve on picking up officially supported Steam OS as a OS choice on purchase as Windows 11 is the big reason I still won't really consider these other handhelds as Windows 11 is awful on handhelds and has soooo much bloat, after using the Steam Deck I can't see myself going back to Windows for a handheld.
Most handhelds can have windows replaced with steam os.
@@journeyproud yeah but that takes a lot of work, something the average user probably doesn’t want to do
Windows 11 is awesome. The first stable system. What is steam os?
@@michaelbmw1931 a proprietary OS made by valve for the steam deck based on Linux. It’s designed to be controller first, mimicking a console like experience, but it is still a full desktop OS when you want it.
This is very cool, I feel the form factor is little too small. The Max is big bulky and heavy to hold but this has a fiddly keyboard and bit chunky. If they slimmed this down went to an 8" screen possibly a 9" it would be perfection. That cpu has serious firepower, the next gen of apu should negate need of a egpu. The 780m is nearly good enough.
This. A 16/10, 8 inch could be great.
max 1 was actually 8 inch 16:10. well too bad the processor is a bit old now
@@kaishiliuThose bezels were horrible though.
Man you gotta start leaving the links to the wallpapers you use. I want that 2B one so bad
There's a wallpaper app on Steam.
I would to see the performance differences when running Bazzite.
Wow street fighter looks amazing on this.
Hi ETA Prime, your window wallpaper is very cool. May I know how you get it? Thank you ^^
Steam.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 do u know the name of this?
@@tuanminhnguyen9768 it is called wallpaper engine. it is on steam. idk the name of the exact wall paper he has but that is how u get it
Just wanted to say, I love this channel! :)
I have to wonder if commenters are watching your videos when posting within a minute of the release of a 12 minute video. That aside great video, wondering if Steam OS would work on this or if you have tried it?
Linux compatible so I'm thinking a big yes? Random stranger throwing in his two cents. But? Really liking the specks and form factor of this. If I knew THIS was around, I might of even skipped on the Steam Deck. I've got a lot of personal fav software that runs awesome on Windows. Which actually should also include Steam itself.
Happy to see they still trying to make this form factor work since the atom cpu stop being released
Would LOVE TO SEE World of Warcraft Classic: WoTLK or World Of Warcraft Dragonflight! Been considering replacing my MSI Delta 15 with something more portable but because of the way the game engine works, it stresses single cores more than lots of other games (I think because it was a custom engine developed in 2004/5 to run optimally on the single core processors of that era?) Anyway - would love to see how it runs if you're able to make a video!
ETA, i love your videos and the way yo present things and new fun toys you find. please keep finding cool shit
They called it the 7840 instead of 7800u to make it feel like a bigger improvement than it is over 6800u. only like 1-7% better at low watts, 10-12% high watts
I'm personally gonna go for the 7640u. I don't need the extra cores
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech probably the better bet. Only about 1-3% less fps and probably better efficientcy, especially after software is developed further around the 7000 series
I loved the live wallpaper Can you provide a link to it ? It’s super cool and gives off kind of 3d effect
Please tell me the name of this live wallpaper, very cool!!?)
To be honest, if you had a decent internet connection, you could use GPD alongside Shadow PC or Vagon PC - and you got pretty much a cloud gaming PC on the go
Another goal of GPD!!
yo...at this point i'm just watching these videos for the live wallpapers! they are so SICK!!! lol for some reason i can never find the good ones in the store and he stay with a different one every time
Love the screen savers. Where are those from?
Who makes that screensaver ? I've been trying to find that artist .
Gaming focused devices are good and all, but I wonder whether they will make a Pocket 3 successor. The kvm module is a savior working on RPi's and headless servers.
Wow this totally have everything that I need. I just have to save for few month before I can order it.
Would you be able to show some RPCS3 emulation running on this? Specifically Gran Turismo 5 or 6? Thanks!
I was wondering where you find all your great animated desktop files.
This looks like it could be really great and I may just trade my steam deck in for one. I look forward to your follow ups :). Thanks
7840U the day after 7840HS? 👍 Thank you ETA!
I really hope stuff like this starts to come down in price at some point
The screen is not VRR right? so any game that's lower than 60fps might show screen tearing?
Why they switched analog stick with ABXY buttons? I'm not saying this is better or worse, but will be uncomfortable for those who uses regular controllers on daily basis and have some muscle memory. Xbox, PS, Steam Deck - they all have buttons at the right side of stick.
Yup I wish valve or Microsoft would make a device like this
it's the only way it can fit without getting in the way of the mother board since they are recessed
Cant wait to see something like this with qualcom/ nvidia combos SOC. The only thing keeping this from being my dream device is that without any cuda cores its probably not great for stuff like stable diffusion. I have seen breakthroughs for CPU gen recently! Would be cool too see how thisbhandkes dtabke diffusion and maybe some low param LLM! Either way u will get one of these and just run my ML on a server anr control it frim this!
Ngl, I Have a rog ally but this form factor is LIT !!!!
Kind of disapointed by the lack of freesync, cause it really helps on low performances hardware.
What do you use for those live wallpapers? Any links for them?
Should just be Wallpaper engine on steam. It’s what I’ve been using for years and the only one that seamlessly works for me without effort.
Am always curious what live wallpaper ETA uses. Really cool.
11.1 inch screen on the WinMax 2? I thought it was 10.1 inch
Pretty please show Switch performance at lower TDPs. I really want to see the temperature and what to expect. Thanks mate ❤
Love the content. Another great review 1:02 but What are those screen savers?
Why do all of these performance reviews only operate on low settings? Is it to see how high the framerate can go without all the detail in textures/shadows etc? Most games, in my opinion look aweful at low, even on these handhelds. Just curious why this seems to be the go-to for reviewers.
This might work for Sega Rally Revo.. a golden oldie, but my fave.. and IMHO the PC version is so much better than the PSP handheld rehash.
Watching this video makes me wish I had a job/Livestyle where I could make use of this one.
Plz benchmark the games again with FSR and all 1080p🙏🙏🙏
Can it run Fl Studio??? 👀 I’d literally have my Studio in my pocket lol
i know farming simulator 22 will run on this device, but i would like to see how good it would run. just a thought. thanks for showing the device.
Halo DS is finally a reality, if we can get an even smaller gpd device, that would be amazing. Lets see what they will release in the future.
also A steam deck mini would be really cool to see. Maybe we will get one? most likely not.