ThePowerStacks if I'm not mistaken until Manfred became commissioner, the Reds were not even permitted to officially retire his number or induct him into their own Hall of Fame. (They unofficially didn't issue his number 14 except briefly to his son when he had the stint in the majors, but were barred from officially recognizing him in that way.) I think Manfred eased some of those restrictions but stopped short of actually reinstating Rose. Though he did, at the same time as he officially denied Rose's reinstatement request, also suggest that he believes the Hall of Fame is a separate question and implied that he doesn't necessarily agree that the Hall shouldn't be able to at least put him on the ballot. But that's actually a decision over which the Hall of Fame has its own discretion.
No one says he isn't a pleasant, voluble little rascal who is sort of an autistic savant about hitting fast-moving baseballs. And living on speed. But he duck fupped the game and I want it written on his gravestone, along with the main big-time juicers. Phooey.
@Dmb596 4 years later, good job mate. He never cheated. Shows how much you know about the situation lol. Maybe take the next four years to reflect on your ignorance.
He will never accept the fact that it is ENTIRELY of his own doing. And reading below, it is obvious that you tell your children it is OK to break the rules. Those other guys? Their fools, fuck them. Just don't get caught, and if you do blame someone else. Rules are for chumps, do what you want to, and screw the rules. He was a great hitter. Great fielder. Played his ass off. And broke the cardinal rule of baseball. And all I read below is he's a whipping boy, he got hosed, everyone does it, he should be in the hall of fame. Is that what you tell your kids? He was the greatest, he belongs in the HOF, fuck the rules.
@James O'Connor my comment was made out of respect for his accomplishments , I guess he was the only one to ever do this , No , he got caught , I suppose you would fess right up if that was you ?? Sure you would . I just love the commentary from all the self proclaimed experts . It’s easy to judge others , I’m sure you know that . His accomplishments stand alone , I suppose Barry Bonds , Mark McGuire , etc are good role models ? Yes , he did in my opinion bet on baseball , but his accomplishments still stand . Were all human .
@@robertsr.249 Well said Brother! Pete may not be the best person ever. But damn the man loves baseball and he is the very deffination of how the game should be played. MLB is a Joke the Reds is a joke of an organization for they way they treat Mr. Rose.
Why would u want a 78 year old delusional blow hard in your clubhouse? He's banned because he constantly lied for decades and now is spiteful. Great player but full of excuses and not an accountable man. Kinda sad
He is the same as Shoeless Joe. He should have been banned from all Cincinnati events. The Reds screwed up by retiring his number in the first place...he was banned for life from baseball.
MLB is in the CASH$$$$ lane! Lot of smart guys in the MLB who should cut the sanctimony and let Pete on the field, in the dugout, and in spring training. The man is baseball. Baseball ain't baseball without Pete Rose.
@@MrFrinZy anything. The fact that people actually believe anything he has to say at all is unbelievable to me. This man has been caught lying so many times I've lost count.
@@RecoveringGenius Thanks.....the wife and I are thinking of doing the Carribean for the first time....whats the best "Bang for the Buck" area? We dont have a lot of dough. One person whose been there a lot told me Aruba or Trinidad/Tobago. What say you?
Every island has spots that look like a screen saver... maybe start with the keys first... then, your first couple nights at a decent resort in Jamaica and then check out and go on an adventure and figure out where to stay based on how the day goes and where you end up. Erroll Flynn and Ian Fleming loved Jamaica.
@@samw2431 he admitted to sleeping with girls who he thought were as young as 16 while married and in his 30s. Some of the girls were allegedly as young as 14. When he was confronted about it he said they told him they were 16. He's a gross pig.
Why is that sad? He broke the one infallible rule of the game. So why shouldn't he be band? He lied, cheated, and gambled. Obviously you tell your kids it is OK to do those things. Rules are for chumps and assholes, son. Just don't get caught. Fuck him. He has never admitted wrong, and is a fucking go-nad.
Pete deserves to be in the Hall but the Hall doesn't deserve to have Pete. He is so much better than the narrow minded people that run the Hall of fame.
>>is the most knowledgeable ex player Phooey. Jerry Remy, alive and working in Baseball(TM) during the same period. ANY day of the week and TWICE for the Sunday double-header. Not just because I'm from Boston: there are very good reasons he worked FOR DECADES doing TV baseball "game commentary" (as in useful game and specific player details, not stupid Bovine Sewage). H E double toothpicks, I'd even almost take having to put up with Howard Cosell again if it meant I didn't have to listen to that speedfreak degenerate gambling serial liar. Remember: Giamatti tried to "let him up gently": turns out That Man had LIED to The Commish and was STILL LYING AFTERWARDS. Redemption requires true acceptance, about which as regards the specific reprobate in question I end as I started: phooey. Go RemDawg Go.
Pete understands about the hall of fame but not getting to coach up the players sucks. That is what a lot of these all time greats care about the most. I dont see the harm in that.
He will never accept the fact that it is ENTIRELY of his own doing. And reading below, it is obvious that you tell your children it is OK to break the rules. Those other guys? Their fools, fuck them. Just don't get caught, and if you do blame someone else. Rules are for chumps, do what you want to, and screw the rules. He was a great hitter. Great fielder. Played his ass off. And broke the cardinal rule of baseball. And all I read below is he's a whipping boy, he got hosed, everyone does it, he should be in the hall of fame. Is that what you tell your kids? He was the greatest, he belongs in the HOF, fuck the rules.
Ex- Men - Um, yes it does. He's banned from baseball and MLB rules stipulate he can't be involved with any team, whether that's instructing minor leaguers or going into the club house. It's actually a pretty simple concept.
He BET on baseball games WHILE he was playing, he knew it was wrong but he didn't CARE enough to not do it.....not like he needed the money. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!! Then he chooses to live in Vegas of all places!!!
@@fmgsr1 If you responded directly to what I said, I'd have more respect for you. Many people don't realize that this wasn't an isolated mistake, thirty years ago. As recently as 2015, a note book was surfaced confirming that Rose bet as a player -- a claim which he'd lied, and continues to lie about, to this day. In addition, it's not as if he made a single bet. He made ongoing bets for years.
Doing what? Teaching them how to bet on the games? Showing them that rules don't apply to him, even though he knew the rules? Not hardly. Pete the prick is getting exactly what he asked for, and in my opinion, a whole lot more to deflate that huge ego that thinks he's better than anyone else. Bench said it right. Break the rules and pay the price. Tough luck, Gambling Pete. You seem to have cut your own throat.....
BS. There are plenty of other good hitters/coaches/mentors that do not have Rose's SELF-INDUCED baggage. This guy is out because he knowingly and repeatedly broke the rules and lied about it, even right to Commissioner Giamatti. Had Rose come clean to Giamatti, I'd have gone with it. But Rose didn't, and didn't for a LONG time after those meetings. I have no more time or patience for Rose than for the juicers who came after him and ruined the record books.
@@bobjones8321 Put on a Peace sign, link arms with me, and we'll talk about hitting, especially beHIND the runner deep in the count with two outs. Pitching discussions let slide til after Spring Training, says I. Or, if you've got nothing else to do, go read the 40% of Ted William's book "The Science of Hitting" that is about specific technique (and less about example players swings). Batter UP!
@@bobjones8321 Then put on a peace-sign tshirt, link arms with me, and we'll talk about hitting, especially beHIND the runner deep in the count with two outs. Forget pitching discussion til after Spring Training. If you've got nothing else to do, read the 40% of Ted William's "The Science of Hitting" that is specific to technique (feet, stride, hands, pitch selection, game situation, all of it) and not just player examples. TL;DR: Williams says: Hit their mistakes. You must be able to hit or foul off every pitch anywhere in the three-dimensional box that is your strike zone. Know what the pitcher can do. "I would practice until my hands had blisters, then I would practice until the blisters bled." That last one IS a close-enough quotation and I'm not going to go look it up. ;-].
Why is this man ostracized when he has admitted his wrong doing? Bonds, Sosa,McGuire all allowed to be around MLB!!!! They actually cheated smdh. Keep him from managing a club fine but allow the man who is probably the greatest hitter in history of baseball to be a part of the league..
Bonds, Sosa, McGuire are smart enough to keep their damn mouths shut and not do stupid stuff in retirement. Pete just keeps "poking the bear" (MLB) with his whining and gambling. And when it came out that he had been having sex with a 14-year-old girl, he pretty much guaranteed that he will not get into the Hall Of Fame until he has been dead for many years...if, ever. Pete brought all of this on himself.
@@timheidel5849 I agree he has brought stuff on himself. But it has nothing to do with his career!!!! If you and or they want to say he isnt in because of off field stuff then they need to take out half or more of Cooperstown because alot of those guys did crap that would far exceed anything Pete did... it's the baseball hall of fame, not the hall of nice guys!!!! Have to seperate douche thi gs from great play. I'm not even a reds fan just a baseball fan.
@@zachmitchell7696 4,000 hits with a dad bod, no roids, no modern training techniques and no modern medicine. What he did is incredible. Only other batter that I'd say MIGHT be better is Ichiro.
@Michael Heathman ...Aren't we all...Everyone has dirty laundry to wash. That is why Jesus came to this Earth to save and forgive and only God can judge. Jesus is without blemish but we all have stains.
@Michael Heathman ...Some people play cards and dominoes and they take it real serious...as serious as cancer. Do you think it is just a card game...they have more than poker faces on.
@Michael Heathman If you were listening to the video. It is Pete Rose way" A street they named after him not anyrhing to do with his way or the highway or anything to do with Jesus is the way. It is simply a place. And as for Las Vegas it is a good place regardless what goes on there. Las Vegas is just like any other place in America. You will find hustlers and city slickers everywhere in any city. And yes Jesus is the way, the truth and the life but that is another subject and it is sinners who he came to save and forgive or did he come to save only the righteous. Pete Rose has been serving his life ban and he has been an example to others and others have learned from Pete Rose....He clearly admits his wrongs and gives his advice to others. Don't do it!
I've got a lot of Respect for this Man. If my Son was playing ball,can't think of anyone I'd rather have teaching him than MR. Pete Rose. Could sit and listen to him all day talk BASEBALL !!!
Ken Arthur couldn't have said better myself I grew up 50 miles from the ball park watching Pete play growing up was an absolute thrill no one attacked the game like he did
Craig O I agree He messed up, and he definitely won't get in as long as he's alive its really sad that he's that stubborn and continues to Gamble I grew up watching this guy play and it was a thrill being 50 miles from the stadium watching the Big Red machine are memories I'll never forget he was the leader played the game right. Your exactly right about fundamentals and hitting I hate that baseball has became what it is.i could listen to him talk baseball forever It's sad he could help the game so much. Sounds to me like it's the Reds decision to not let him on the field that surprises me a bit
It is RIDICULOUS that Pete Rose is used for the Reds to sell tickets but yet he cannot even help out in the batting cage or in the broadcast booth. Come on. He was an amazing player and deserves recognition and he deserves so much more. There are much more terrible things done by many others in sports yet they have far less repercussions.
I don't believe that a competitor like Pete Rose threw ball games for money. It's not as if he was strapped for cash. He played the game to win, and he managed the game to win. What planet are you living on? Did you ever see the man play? He even ran to first base even after being walked. We're not talking about the Black Sox, who were persuaded to throw the World Series because they weren't making any money. There is no evidence that he ever bet against his team, so stop with the accusations.
@@joesmallwood9253 Yeah, bet ON his team, not against them. HUGE Difference there. Maybe not to the league, but to his credit anyway. When you bet against your team, you are a traitor who will give a lackluster effort in the game, and when you're the player manager as he was, you also have the opportunity to control the outcome substantially by mismanaging your team. Neither of which this guy ever did. Obviously some of the comments are from people not familiar with his play and didn't see him throughout his career. I'm not saying he didn't bet on baseball, but no way in hell did he ever bet against himself or his team and try to throw a game. That wouldn't at all be consistent with the guy who played the game for over 20 years and never gave less than everything he had.
A-Rod juices up, yankees can’t void his deal Pete Rose bets on his team winning and has a lifetime ban.... could probably still bat better than half the DHs
Rose also didn’t bet on the Reds to win when Mario Soto was pitching. That gives bookies inside info and how do you know he wasn’t making decisions in the games he bet on the a reds to win just so he could win that bet that day? You’re obviously slow mentally but you need to know something
One thing Pete didn't clarify....is it THE REDS who won't allow him on the field or in the clubhouse...or MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL? I'm guessing it's MLB, and that being the case, Pete's anger is misguided. He has no right to be upset with the Reds when they report to MLB and are responsible to MLB for what they do. If MLB won't allow Pete, the Reds can't go against MLB, and Pete knows that.
4,256 hits ..... that’s 203 hits a year for 21 years ... took him 24 ... they way players go on IL list nowadays and swing for the long ball, this record might stand for a century
He's a good man who made a mistake, but still loves the game and has a lot to contribute to it. Saw him in San Francisco in 2015 watching a little league girls team putting their cleats on in the lobby and getting their gear ready to travel to their game. Rose was standing in the background among the hotel guests, but to himself. The smile and adoration he had on his face as he watched these little girls get excited about the same game he loved as a boy, was truly a beautiful thing to see. He would not only be a great ambassador for baseball, but he would also be a great ambassador for sports, redemption, hard work, and inclusion in general.
He may have your support, but he certainly does not belong in the Hall of Fame. He broke the cardinal rule of baseball. Just ask Johnny Bench. Enough said.
MLB trotted him out during the 2015 All-Star Game as one of the four greatest Reds of all time. If he's banned from baseball, then ban him from *everything* baseball. Mark McGwire was subpoenaed to testify in 2005, but didn't admit to using steroids until 2010. McGwire's working in baseball. Rose initially denied gambling in 1989, but, in 2004, he admitted to gambling only during his time as a manager. Just like he said, the stadium is on a *street named after him* and he's not welcome there. I can respect his position regarding the Hall of Fame, even though I don't agree with it. I would have never considered myself a Pete Rose fan, but, while he was a player, I respected the hell out of his competitiveness and his accomplishments during a time when players weren't getting the mega-million-dollar contracts players get today. Cobb retired in 1928 after playing 23 seasons. Rose broke Cobb's record in 1985--the record stood for 57 years--and he did it in his 22nd season, one year sooner. One of the many reasons I'm no longer a baseball fan today...
Rose may have broken the record in one less season (although your numbers are off as Cobb played 24 seasons and Rose broke the record in his 23rd season), but Rose broke the record in his 3,476th career game and his 15,550th career plate appearance (if going by the official MLB record; if going by the record everyone but MLB goes by you can knock 2 games and 9 plate appearances off that total). Cobb played in just 3,034 career games and had just 13,099 career plate appearances, so Rose did not accomplish the feat sooner than Cobb.
Betting on the Super Bowl isn't the same as betting on games that you have the ability to influence because you are PLAYING IN THEM. He never understood that.
Even before all his trouble with betting and his ban; as a kid, I loved the way he played the game; and at the beginning of a season, if I had a choice in picking my uniform and number 14 was available in my size; I always chose it. Was he my role model for all things outside of baseball? No. I had a Mom and Dad that were role models as well as other relatives. Did I appreciate the way he played the game and did I want to play like Pete Rose? Absolutely! I do hope he makes the Hall of Fame eventually.
Pete Rose played hard and played well. His intensity gave him the name Charlie Hustle. His contributions to his teams brought World Series Championships. He was also a great manager. We need Charlie Hustle.
The Hall of Fame is a load of crap anyway. It's a group stroke-fest of ass-clowns who play buddy-buddy games. It hasn't been a REAL 'hall of fame' for the sport for 30 years. They can't recognize one of the best players to ever play the game? Doesn't sound like a hall of fame to me.
Cincinnati native here life long Reds fan...only 37, but anyone around here gets it. Keep in mind, these are MLB politics. As you mentioned, the Reds retired and inducted you to our HoF. Cincy still loves you. I truly think the reason why you aren't allowed in the box or clubhouse are most likely from higher than the Reds. Still remember chaperoning daughter's field trip to GABP. They have one single pink rose in the lication of that rose bed for the spot your record breaking hit landed. And one ball to represent each of your hits. It sucks, I know! But trust me, Cincy loves you and will never be able to forget you and your mates!
BTW, My great-grandmother managed to get to as many games as possible. I have very old autographs from Perez, Morgan, Griffey (Sr.) , and Foster. One more I can't think of for the life of me...initials Dl? Still...I WANT ROSE AND BENCH! I was C. Rolled with #8 for Yogi...sry Johnny! Just throwing it out there if anyone is listening. Still in the tri-state area! Trust me, none of you are forgotten! On field accomplishments are HoF criteria; not off-field decisions. ❤
Rose really should have accepted the deal he was offered. He only would have been suspended. There is a good reason Jonny Bench says Rose doesn't belong in the HOF. Here is a quote from an article on the Report that got Rose not only banned, but several months in federal prison. Interviews with Dowd and others reveal this: Rose could have avoided his eventual conviction on tax evasion and his five months in prison - in addition to his lifetime ban from baseball - if he had only come clean in 1989.
I understand why Pete is upset, but under the terms of his ban, he's not allowed onto the field of play, or in the clubhouse. That's why the Reds have never had him do such things. He's allowed to attend "special events," but taking an active role with an MLB club just simply isn't something he is allowed to do. For the record, I'm a Pete Rose fan.
This is an example of how crazy this world is... Pete Rose has always been great for baseball. His attitude as "Charlie Hustle" is unparalleled to this day. Murderers and cheaters are there but not Pete.. BTW , if he never bet against his team, then there wasn't much conflict of interest.
NO GAMBLING has been posted in every dugout since 1919. He knew that it was against the rules to place bets on the outcome of games. He is 100% responsible for for not being in the HOF.
Yeah but it’s not like he bet against the reds and told his team to lose like why that rule exists, he bet for his team to win, which is still bad but imo nowhere near taking roids or something
@@echozero8213 Don't ever try to minimize the corrupting effect of Rose's gambling. www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/why-pete-rose-still-cant-be-absolved/378866/
I believe that you are mistaken about the Reds part and that he only bet as a Manager. With that said, Rule 21 Misconduct, "(d) Betting on Ball Games, Any player, umpire, or club, or league official, or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible." This is Baseballs Holy Grail of rules. Pete broke it. He is done. You could not ask for a better baseball player. Do any thing you ask him to do. Play smart. Play tough. Lead. Follow. But he had a vise that got him banned for life.
Sounds like baseball is using the Government's way of doing things. Wait until everyone dies that cares before you reveal anything such as who killed JFK.
No way, he lied for waaaay too long. He doesn't deserve to be in, he broke the golden rule of baseball. Even after he admitted he bet on baseball he kept on lying about betting on his own team. Let him in after he dies
Yeah, he admitted to it after lying about it for 15 years and did so just so he could sell his book. Time to continue keeping him out for thinking he was bigger than the game.
Pete got to sit in the broadcast booth when the Phillies invited him back this past summer in 2022. The first thing he did was say to John Kruk, the color analyst, "I knew Johnny when he had two balls." Kruk had testicular cancer in 1994.
The thing I've never gotten over with Pete Rose is him looking into the camera multiple times and professing his innocence: I did not gamble on baseball! Then after so long and so much evidence, he admits it. I have issues with liars like that. If he'd admitted and took ownership of his actions then, like he does now, I'd have no problems with him.
Not only that but I think his two biggest strikes were not just betting on baseball, but betting on his own team (he claims he always bet on them to win, seems shady, no way to verify), and he agreed to a lifetime ban. That is like the criminal that accepts a plea deal complaining about it after the fact. I respect what he did as a player, and I've seen him talk, he is a funny guy, but as a person he seems to have major flaws.
Total BS. Yez he gambled, was he wrong to do that yes. Have you ever made a poor choice in life? Show me a human being who HASENT and I'll jump tl the moon for you. Unless those mistakes hurt someone else or someone else's property then why are you making a big deal outnof him gambling. As much as he loves baseball, loves his team and players and fans. Do you really think he would bet against his team and mess up a game on purpose over some money? He was already rich.. he made a mistake. He deserves to be in the hall of fame while he is living. You got roid heads and cheaters in there but Pete gambled so he is shunned? Get real. Do you know how much food it woukd do fkr the game and how much excitement and media stir it would bring if Pete was allowed to manage a major league team? Ppl need to get off their high horse and stop condemning the man. Over GAMBLING. This is so stupid it's unreal he's paid the price and it sets a precedent already to anyone thinking about doing that again.. right is right and wrong is wrong. Opinions though are like ass holes. . How does anyone love baseball and not support rose for the hall of fame? Even if you disliked the man's lifestyle and all his whoring around when married and everything else. That's between him and God and has nothing to do with his baseball accomplishments and by the way all those records. He didn't need ROIDS. For like the cheaters do
@@joshdavis3743 Gamblers usually owe money to really nasty people. Rose gambled big money. When he was in a nasty hole, I'm sure Rose figured betting on his own team (an outcome he could easily manipulate, especially as coach) was a great way to make sure he didn't get his legs broken. Rose broke baseball's most sacred rule: No Gambling. Bye, Pete.
@@robertlosasso4222 It is the constant lying that hurt Rose. First he lied about gambling at all. Then admitted gambling on baseball but not the Reds. Then bet on them to win as a manager. He is an addict and no way to know how long he was gambling on baseball. Add in the fact he had questionable associates. People associated with organized crime. Baseball did not want to have another situation where baseball was in control of organized crime or the mob. The mob at this point was still around. Throw in fact that he cannot remember if girl he slept with was legal age. Even tho imo 16 is still too young. Throw in fact every deal he has had to potentially get in he has scuttled. One of which would have kept him out of prison, got his gambling debts forgiven, and eventually let him in. The man multiple times had 6 figure gambling debt. Now I do hold MLB to some extent just as culpable. They knew he was a heavy gambler even as far back as when he came in to MLB
LOVE PETE Cardinals fan since the 1964 season Pete Rose no douut my fav non Cardinal of all time follow his career all way though still admire his talkin baseball a true HOFer
Not sure who titled this video, but Pete Rose is not mad at the Reds. The Reds have no say in the fact that he can't come in the clubhouse or go down to the cages, that's due to the MLB policy and will not change until he's removed from the permanent ineligible list. Pete has always been pretty forthcoming about his love for that city, and you can be that Cincinnati and Reds fans to this day love him to death.
Sure: let's put into the Hall a guy who NOW admits he played most of his career on speed (do "Mr. Hustle" and his on-field bizarre behaviors make more sense now?) and gambled on baseball, even on games he played in. Sure:. teach our kids that nobody cares if you break the rules as long as you succeed. That kind of [excrement] gets us garbage like Trump.
My father called him Charlie Hustle. He told me to play the game like Pete and I would make a difference. I dove head first, attacked the ball at the plate for base hits and never swung for the fence. Friday nights under the lights with bugs flying around the halogens. The air smelled like popcorn and that sound, that beautiful sweet sound of a ball hitting a wooden bat........CRACK. Jesus I miss playing the game and Mr. Rose is a big part of why.
Pete Rose uses HIS team to gamble, gets caught, still on "lifetime ban". Thinks MLB should lift ban, because he's a "all-time" best hitter. Angry because he thinks Cincy is using his name to sell tickets. Get over yourself, Pete! You "illegally" bet on a sport you were playing in, and got caught. IT'S YOUR FAULT! WHAT DO YOU THINK A "LIFETIME BAN" MEANS? You might be an awesome player, but YOU GOT CAUGHT!! You learned your lesson. MOVE ON!!
Pete lost big money to gamblers. Gamblers will sell their children to keep going. Did he over-use a closer? Did he rest a closer a few games to load up for a game he thought he could win? Who knows what he did to his lineup as a direct result of gambling.
Also, I don't think most of the public knows about betting the run lines. One last thing, most ball clubs have a defensive specialist. A guy who comes into a game in the later innings. I'm sure Pete didn't use those guys if he had a chance to win a bet.
I have never understood what the issue was against a guy who bet FOR his team. We have domestic abusers: Barry Bonds, Aroldis Chapman, Addison Russell, Yasiel Puig, etc., and they get a slap on the wrist or nothing at all and can keep playing. WTF? This man is one of the GOAT's of the game, whose comments are well respected by some of the biggest names in MLB, still can bring in the crowds when he talks baseball, and he can't even attend a Reds game without paying? Total hypocrisy.
I had said to my Dad and anyone who would hear me, for yearsss, that Pete would write a letter for Petey to read. I hope. I HOPE. In that letter, that Pete/Petey tells MLB to "pound sand" and simply walks away from the mic. Pete and his son too, have EVERY RIGHT to say that.
What a jerk. I grew up wanting to be like him until he broke the cardinal sin of baseball. Pete doesn't care about baseball. Pete cares about Pete and Pete only. If he really wants back in he would give a sincere apology. People like him don't. I love baseball and the way he played. You've still got to be a decent human being. He's not. Be humble, be respectful of the game. He just steps on it. Period.
“Pete Rose is Still Angry at the Reds” and he is still wearing a Reds hat. Legend
Pissed at the league and the Reds office but not the players and coaches.
Title should be Pete Rose still angry at Baseball not the Reds. Him not being allowed the Game & Team is the MLB not the Reds.
Bill Stephens Exactly. If the Reds were allowed to have him in the clubhouse they would trust me
MomanSLM Don't put the Reds office into this. They have NOTHING to do with it! it's all MLB
ThePowerStacks if I'm not mistaken until Manfred became commissioner, the Reds were not even permitted to officially retire his number or induct him into their own Hall of Fame. (They unofficially didn't issue his number 14 except briefly to his son when he had the stint in the majors, but were barred from officially recognizing him in that way.) I think Manfred eased some of those restrictions but stopped short of actually reinstating Rose. Though he did, at the same time as he officially denied Rose's reinstatement request, also suggest that he believes the Hall of Fame is a separate question and implied that he doesn't necessarily agree that the Hall shouldn't be able to at least put him on the ballot. But that's actually a decision over which the Hall of Fame has its own discretion.
I was honored to meet him when he came into Lids to buy a reds hat. He talked to our store employees for more than 30 mins, just shooting the shit.
No one says he isn't a pleasant, voluble little rascal who is sort of an autistic savant about hitting fast-moving baseballs. And living on speed.
But he duck fupped the game and I want it written on his gravestone, along with the main big-time juicers. Phooey.
So you were honored to be around a cheater? Kind of sums up your life huh? Nuff said.
@Dmb596 4 years later, good job mate.
He never cheated. Shows how much you know about the situation lol.
Maybe take the next four years to reflect on your ignorance.
Pete Rose could STILL hit a 2 out bases loaded single (at 78 years old) Hard nosed a player as ever was .
LOL.....Suuuuure he could 😁😁
He will never accept the fact that it is ENTIRELY of his own doing. And reading below, it is obvious that you tell your children it is OK to break the rules. Those other guys? Their fools, fuck them. Just don't get caught, and if you do blame someone else. Rules are for chumps, do what you want to, and screw the rules. He was a great hitter. Great fielder. Played his ass off. And broke the cardinal rule of baseball. And all I read below is he's a whipping boy, he got hosed, everyone does it, he should be in the hall of fame. Is that what you tell your kids? He was the greatest, he belongs in the HOF, fuck the rules.
James O'Connor I bet your one of the one of the people that thinks Bonds should be in the hall though
@James O'Connor my comment was made out of respect for his accomplishments , I guess he was the only one to ever do this , No , he got caught , I suppose you would fess right up if that was you ?? Sure you would . I just love the commentary from all the self proclaimed experts . It’s easy to judge others , I’m sure you know that . His accomplishments stand alone , I suppose Barry Bonds , Mark McGuire , etc are good role models ? Yes , he did in my opinion bet on baseball , but his accomplishments still stand . Were all human .
@@robertsr.249 Well said Brother! Pete may not be the best person ever. But damn the man loves baseball and he is the very deffination of how the game should be played. MLB is a Joke the Reds is a joke of an organization for they way they treat Mr. Rose.
This guy wants to help young players WTF are the Reds thinking.
Why would u want a 78 year old delusional blow hard in your clubhouse?
He's banned because he constantly lied for decades and now is spiteful. Great player but full of excuses and not an accountable man. Kinda sad
Nightrain76 it’s not the reds decision. The MLB says he can’t go on the field.
Carl Spackler Because at 78, he can still out hit anyone on a major league roster
@@klonidier it's not a lie if you believe it ... 😂
@@tacotom3492 who cares. Everyone lies. Some cheat. Some do both, yet they're still Abe to be coaches in the league. Foh with your crying.
One of the best hitters and all around players in history, now baseball's whipping boy.
Is this the same John Curry that works at Sanderson Farms????
John Curry
He fucking well EARNED his whipping boy status.
Probably is the best hitter. He's up there.
100% self inflicted.
He is the same as Shoeless Joe. He should have been banned from all Cincinnati events. The Reds screwed up by retiring his number in the first place...he was banned for life from baseball.
Lifetime ban but we'll use his jersey and bobble head to sell tickets. Smells like b.s. - pick a lane MLB.
Money, the MLB picks money
MLB is in the CASH$$$$ lane! Lot of smart guys in the MLB who should cut the sanctimony and let Pete on the field, in the dugout, and in spring training. The man is baseball. Baseball ain't baseball without Pete Rose.
Just because Pete Rose says it doesn't mean it's true. He lied about gambling on baseball games
@@stevegoehring1610 Just because he says what?
@@MrFrinZy anything. The fact that people actually believe anything he has to say at all is unbelievable to me. This man has been caught lying so many times I've lost count.
Sat down with Pete one on one for about 1/2 last year and just talked baseball. The guy is so honest and down to earth... an old school gentleman.
Hey.....wheres that pic taken of the boat on the water in your profile??
@@motorcitymanman7711 Caribbean off of St Kitts.
@@RecoveringGenius
Thanks.....the wife and I are thinking of doing the Carribean for the first time....whats the best "Bang for the Buck" area?
We dont have a lot of dough.
One person whose been there a lot told me Aruba or Trinidad/Tobago.
What say you?
@@motorcitymanman7711 wow.. great question... where are you flying from?
Every island has spots that look like a screen saver... maybe start with the keys first... then, your first couple nights at a decent resort in Jamaica and then check out and go on an adventure and figure out where to stay based on how the day goes and where you end up. Erroll Flynn and Ian Fleming loved Jamaica.
Whats more sad is that hes banned from the stadium
dbag0584 what are you dumb
@@samw2431 he admitted to sleeping with girls who he thought were as young as 16 while married and in his 30s. Some of the girls were allegedly as young as 14. When he was confronted about it he said they told him they were 16. He's a gross pig.
vashthestampede11 i have never heard of that
Why is that sad? He broke the one infallible rule of the game. So why shouldn't he be band? He lied, cheated, and gambled. Obviously you tell your kids it is OK to do those things. Rules are for chumps and assholes, son. Just don't get caught. Fuck him. He has never admitted wrong, and is a fucking go-nad.
@@jamesoconnor3562 Yea and how many did drug and roids and still played the game horseshit on infallible rules my ass!
Reds been needing this man's energy in that dugout for the past 4 decades. Pete is an all universe player if there ever was one
Winningest player in history
Pete is in the Hall of Fame of my memories.
Combat Medic all he needed to do was admit his gambling incident and he’d be in the HOF
Well said>>>>
Pete looks like he could go out and bat .300
casually has “HitKing” on his shirt collar
what a legend
more like 'what a douche.'
@@samueliam745 what have you accomplished in your life, i bet your a douche
@@summerwhite4796 you're*
@@sircjgentleman No, your. Because he douches. So, he's referring to his douche.
@@samueliam745 You shouldn’t talk about yourself that way!
Pete deserves to be in the Hall but the Hall doesn't deserve to have Pete. He is so much better than the narrow minded people that run the Hall of fame.
Pete is the most knowledgeable ex player about the game of baseball. Met him in Vegas and he's awesome to chat with just like he states here.
>>is the most knowledgeable ex player
Phooey.
Jerry Remy, alive and working in Baseball(TM) during the same period. ANY day of the week and TWICE for the Sunday double-header. Not just because I'm from Boston: there are very good reasons he worked FOR DECADES doing TV baseball "game commentary" (as in useful game and specific player details, not stupid Bovine Sewage).
H E double toothpicks, I'd even almost take having to put up with Howard Cosell again if it meant I didn't have to listen to that speedfreak degenerate gambling serial liar. Remember: Giamatti tried to "let him up gently": turns out That Man had LIED to The Commish and was STILL LYING AFTERWARDS.
Redemption requires true acceptance, about which as regards the specific reprobate in question I end
as I started: phooey.
Go RemDawg Go.
What he is awesome at is cheating.
Listen to him. 78 years old, and talks about his stats.
John Bandera he sounds amazing for his age
Damn right
He’s delusional about his baseball crime‼️
Pete understands about the hall of fame but not getting to coach up the players sucks. That is what a lot of these all time greats care about the most. I dont see the harm in that.
He will never accept the fact that it is ENTIRELY of his own doing. And reading below, it is obvious that you tell your children it is OK to break the rules. Those other guys? Their fools, fuck them. Just don't get caught, and if you do blame someone else. Rules are for chumps, do what you want to, and screw the rules. He was a great hitter. Great fielder. Played his ass off. And broke the cardinal rule of baseball. And all I read below is he's a whipping boy, he got hosed, everyone does it, he should be in the hall of fame. Is that what you tell your kids? He was the greatest, he belongs in the HOF, fuck the rules.
Ex- Men - Um, yes it does. He's banned from baseball and MLB rules stipulate he can't be involved with any team, whether that's instructing minor leaguers or going into the club house. It's actually a pretty simple concept.
The story about what the Babe's daughter said to him is great.
As usual, Pete Rose is a legend it speaks nothing but the truth when it comes to baseball. You got to love this guy
I could listen to this guy everyday. More interesting than listening to those stations on TV and radio.
What a disgrace. MLB ought to be ashamed at the way they treated this great man.
He BET on baseball games WHILE he was playing, he knew it was wrong but he didn't CARE enough to not do it.....not like he needed the money.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!!
Then he chooses to live in Vegas of all places!!!
Motorcityman Man The time has been done. Let the man into baseball.
He bet on games as a player and manager and had been lying about it for three decades. You realize that right?
Another casting stones!! You make me laugh, GOODY GOODY
@@fmgsr1 If you responded directly to what I said, I'd have more respect for you. Many people don't realize that this wasn't an isolated mistake, thirty years ago. As recently as 2015, a note book was surfaced confirming that Rose bet as a player -- a claim which he'd lied, and continues to lie about, to this day.
In addition, it's not as if he made a single bet. He made ongoing bets for years.
Put the Hall of Fame vote to the people to see how they feel about Rose. He'd be in the Hall of Fame tomorrow if it was up to the fans
He signed a contract to not bet on games. He screwed himself.
I agree with Pete. He could help young players so much if they allowed him on the field.
Doing what? Teaching them how to bet on the games? Showing them that rules don't apply to him, even though he knew the rules? Not hardly. Pete the prick is getting exactly what he asked for, and in my opinion, a whole lot more to deflate that huge ego that thinks he's better than anyone else. Bench said it right. Break the rules and pay the price. Tough luck, Gambling Pete. You seem to have cut your own throat.....
BS. There are plenty of other good hitters/coaches/mentors that do not have Rose's SELF-INDUCED baggage. This guy is out because he knowingly and repeatedly broke the rules and lied about it, even right to Commissioner Giamatti. Had Rose come clean to Giamatti, I'd have gone with it. But Rose didn't, and didn't for a LONG time after those meetings.
I have no more time or patience for Rose than for the juicers who came after him and ruined the record books.
@@michaelmcgovern8110Perfectly said! I totally agree!
99.9% of people don’t agree with you and me.
@@bobjones8321 Put on a Peace sign, link arms with me, and we'll talk about hitting, especially beHIND the runner deep in the count with two outs. Pitching discussions let slide til after Spring Training, says I.
Or, if you've got nothing else to do, go read the 40% of Ted William's book "The Science of Hitting" that is about specific technique (and less about example players swings).
Batter UP!
@@bobjones8321
Then put on a peace-sign tshirt, link arms with me, and we'll talk about hitting, especially beHIND the runner deep in the count with two outs.
Forget pitching discussion til after Spring Training.
If you've got nothing else to do, read the 40% of Ted William's "The Science of Hitting" that is specific to technique (feet, stride, hands, pitch selection, game situation, all of it) and not just player examples.
TL;DR: Williams says: Hit their mistakes. You must be able to hit or foul off every pitch anywhere in the three-dimensional box that is your strike zone. Know what the pitcher can do. "I would practice until my hands had blisters, then I would practice until the blisters bled." That last one IS a close-enough quotation and I'm not going to go look it up. ;-].
His story about being nervous meeting the 77 year old daughter of Babe Ruth is priceless. Pete is a freaking riot.
Why is this man ostracized when he has admitted his wrong doing? Bonds, Sosa,McGuire all allowed to be around MLB!!!! They actually cheated smdh. Keep him from managing a club fine but allow the man who is probably the greatest hitter in history of baseball to be a part of the league..
PROBABLY the greatest hitter? IS the greatest hitter.
Bonds, Sosa, McGuire are smart enough to keep their damn mouths shut and not do stupid stuff in retirement. Pete just keeps "poking the bear" (MLB) with his whining and gambling. And when it came out that he had been having sex with a 14-year-old girl, he pretty much guaranteed that he will not get into the Hall Of Fame until he has been dead for many years...if, ever. Pete brought all of this on himself.
@@SomeJustice19k well some people would disagree with us, so never speak in absolutes.
@@timheidel5849 I agree he has brought stuff on himself. But it has nothing to do with his career!!!! If you and or they want to say he isnt in because of off field stuff then they need to take out half or more of Cooperstown because alot of those guys did crap that would far exceed anything Pete did... it's the baseball hall of fame, not the hall of nice guys!!!! Have to seperate douche thi gs from great play. I'm not even a reds fan just a baseball fan.
@@zachmitchell7696 4,000 hits with a dad bod, no roids, no modern training techniques and no modern medicine. What he did is incredible. Only other batter that I'd say MIGHT be better is Ichiro.
Pete Rose is the way! His baseball records speak for themselves" Rose is the HOF and he is hardball for life! Baseball's great Hit King👑
@Michael Heathman ...Aren't we all...Everyone has dirty laundry to wash. That is why Jesus came to this Earth to save and forgive and only God can judge. Jesus is without blemish but we all have stains.
@Michael Heathman ...Some people play cards and dominoes and they take it real serious...as serious as cancer. Do you think it is just a card game...they have more than poker faces on.
@Michael Heathman If you were listening to the video. It is Pete Rose way" A street they named after him not anyrhing to do with his way or the highway or anything to do with Jesus is the way. It is simply a place. And as for Las Vegas it is a good place regardless what goes on there. Las Vegas is just like any other place in America. You will find hustlers and city slickers everywhere in any city. And yes Jesus is the way, the truth and the life but that is another subject and it is sinners who he came to save and forgive or did he come to save only the righteous. Pete Rose has been serving his life ban and he has been an example to others and others have learned from Pete Rose....He clearly admits his wrongs and gives his advice to others. Don't do it!
@Michael Heathman
He saId Rose "IS" the HOF.......not "Rose is IN the HOF.
I've got a lot of Respect for this Man. If my Son was playing ball,can't think of anyone I'd rather have teaching him than MR. Pete Rose. Could sit and listen to him all day talk BASEBALL !!!
Pete Rose IS baseball. MLB is too stupid and stubborn to admit that it needs Pete.
Ken Arthur couldn't have said better myself I grew up 50 miles from the ball park watching Pete play growing up was an absolute thrill no one attacked the game like he did
Craig O I agree He messed up, and he definitely won't get in as long as he's alive its really sad that he's that stubborn and continues to Gamble I grew up watching this guy play and it was a thrill being 50 miles from the stadium watching the Big Red machine are memories I'll never forget he was the leader played the game right. Your exactly right about fundamentals and hitting I hate that baseball has became what it is.i could listen to him talk baseball forever It's sad he could help the game so much. Sounds to me like it's the Reds decision to not let him on the field that surprises me a bit
Charlie Hussle
Baseball is run by a bunch of pansies. Look in the stands and see what liberalism does. People are tired of the powers that be screw up the game.
Needs Pete for what?
We love you Pete - Cincinnati resident
These days people want to label you with shame and never forgive. It's sad.
THE HIT KING!!
AND ALWAYS WILL BE!! GO REDS!!
It is RIDICULOUS that Pete Rose is used for the Reds to sell tickets but yet he cannot even help out in the batting cage or in the broadcast booth. Come on. He was an amazing player and deserves recognition and he deserves so much more. There are much more terrible things done by many others in sports yet they have far less repercussions.
What is worse in Sports than throwing games? It doesn't matter how great he was as a player if he as manager threw games.
I don't believe that a competitor like Pete Rose threw ball games for money.
It's not as if he was strapped for cash.
He played the game to win, and he managed the game to win.
What planet are you living on? Did you ever see the man play?
He even ran to first base even after being walked.
We're not talking about the Black Sox, who were persuaded to throw the World Series because they weren't making any money.
There is no evidence that he ever bet against his team, so stop with the accusations.
Bobby Bobby google is your friend. Plenty of evidence he bet on his team WHILE playing.
@@joesmallwood9253 He bet on them to win.
@@joesmallwood9253 Yeah, bet ON his team, not against them.
HUGE Difference there. Maybe not to the league, but to his credit anyway.
When you bet against your team, you are a traitor who will give a lackluster effort in the game, and when you're the player manager as he was, you also have the opportunity to control the outcome substantially by mismanaging your team.
Neither of which this guy ever did.
Obviously some of the comments are from people not familiar with his play and didn't see him throughout his career.
I'm not saying he didn't bet on baseball, but no way in hell did he ever bet against himself or his team and try to throw a game.
That wouldn't at all be consistent with the guy who played the game for over 20 years and never gave less than everything he had.
Pete Rose is the Man.
The title of this video is deceiving. Rose is banned by MLB from going into ANY major league clubhouse. He’s not holding a grudge against the Reds.
The title of this video's a total lie.
A-Rod juices up, yankees can’t void his deal
Pete Rose bets on his team winning and has a lifetime ban.... could probably still bat better than half the DHs
Alejandro Robles I like how there was only accusations and yet nothing has came from it and it’s 2019 gtfoh
a rod is a joke
Rose also didn’t bet on the Reds to win when Mario Soto was pitching. That gives bookies inside info and how do you know he wasn’t making decisions in the games he bet on the a reds to win just so he could win that bet that day? You’re obviously slow mentally but you need to know something
He's upset with MLB, not the Reds. He knows the Reds would do what they can for Pete if allowed by MLB.
One thing Pete didn't clarify....is it THE REDS who won't allow him on the field or in the clubhouse...or MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL? I'm guessing it's MLB, and that being the case, Pete's anger is misguided. He has no right to be upset with the Reds when they report to MLB and are responsible to MLB for what they do. If MLB won't allow Pete, the Reds can't go against MLB, and Pete knows that.
4,256 hits ..... that’s 203 hits a year for 21 years ... took him 24 ... they way players go on IL list nowadays and swing for the long ball, this record might stand for a century
*will
He's a good man who made a mistake, but still loves the game and has a lot to contribute to it. Saw him in San Francisco in 2015 watching a little league girls team putting their cleats on in the lobby and getting their gear ready to travel to their game. Rose was standing in the background among the hotel guests, but to himself. The smile and adoration he had on his face as he watched these little girls get excited about the same game he loved as a boy, was truly a beautiful thing to see. He would not only be a great ambassador for baseball, but he would also be a great ambassador for sports, redemption, hard work, and inclusion in general.
We love you Pete. You always have our support
He may have your support, but he certainly does not belong in the Hall of Fame. He broke the cardinal rule of baseball. Just ask Johnny Bench. Enough said.
Pete’s massive ego has been in his way for decades…Johnny Bench lays it all down. Johnny Bench.
Pete Rose is an excellent ambassador for the sport. He was phenomenal as a commentator and he is the best player of all time. MLB should embrace him.
The best player of all time ? Lol
Pete you're a legend to everyone that appreciates baseball hitting, there's nobody I'd rather have on the plate w bases loaded
love pete rose. MLB needs to get this man some clearance.
MLB trotted him out during the 2015 All-Star Game as one of the four greatest Reds of all time. If he's banned from baseball, then ban him from *everything* baseball. Mark McGwire was subpoenaed to testify in 2005, but didn't admit to using steroids until 2010. McGwire's working in baseball. Rose initially denied gambling in 1989, but, in 2004, he admitted to gambling only during his time as a manager. Just like he said, the stadium is on a *street named after him* and he's not welcome there. I can respect his position regarding the Hall of Fame, even though I don't agree with it.
I would have never considered myself a Pete Rose fan, but, while he was a player, I respected the hell out of his competitiveness and his accomplishments during a time when players weren't getting the mega-million-dollar contracts players get today. Cobb retired in 1928 after playing 23 seasons. Rose broke Cobb's record in 1985--the record stood for 57 years--and he did it in his 22nd season, one year sooner. One of the many reasons I'm no longer a baseball fan today...
Rose may have broken the record in one less season (although your numbers are off as Cobb played 24 seasons and Rose broke the record in his 23rd season), but Rose broke the record in his 3,476th career game and his 15,550th career plate appearance (if going by the official MLB record; if going by the record everyone but MLB goes by you can knock 2 games and 9 plate appearances off that total). Cobb played in just 3,034 career games and had just 13,099 career plate appearances, so Rose did not accomplish the feat sooner than Cobb.
I agree: MLB did Pete a favor when they shouldn't have. They should have kept him banned from the All Star game.
The fans know Pete is a hall of famer that is more important than what baseball thinks.
Betting on the Super Bowl isn't the same as betting on games that you have the ability to influence because you are PLAYING IN THEM. He never understood that.
Pete Rose looks great!
Even before all his trouble with betting and his ban; as a kid, I loved the way he played the game; and at the beginning of a season, if I had a choice in picking my uniform and number 14 was available in my size; I always chose it. Was he my role model for all things outside of baseball? No. I had a Mom and Dad that were role models as well as other relatives. Did I appreciate the way he played the game and did I want to play like Pete Rose? Absolutely! I do hope he makes the Hall of Fame eventually.
Pete Rose played hard and played well. His intensity gave him the name Charlie Hustle. His contributions to his teams brought World Series Championships. He was also a great manager. We need Charlie Hustle.
SPEED made him Charlie Hustle. FFS.
I didn't know the Hall of Fame had Pete Rose artifacts. Now that makes no sense at all. So he's banned but his stuff isn't. Craziness!
It sure is.
The Hall of Fame is a load of crap anyway. It's a group stroke-fest of ass-clowns who play buddy-buddy games. It hasn't been a REAL 'hall of fame' for the sport for 30 years.
They can't recognize one of the best players to ever play the game?
Doesn't sound like a hall of fame to me.
the hit king speaks the truth
*out king
He's a lying arrogant prick.
Cincinnati native here life long Reds fan...only 37, but anyone around here gets it.
Keep in mind, these are MLB politics. As you mentioned, the Reds retired and inducted you to our HoF. Cincy still loves you. I truly think the reason why you aren't allowed in the box or clubhouse are most likely from higher than the Reds.
Still remember chaperoning daughter's field trip to GABP. They have one single pink rose in the lication of that rose bed for the spot your record breaking hit landed. And one ball to represent each of your hits. It sucks, I know!
But trust me, Cincy loves you and will never be able to forget you and your mates!
BTW, My great-grandmother managed to get to as many games as possible. I have very old autographs from Perez, Morgan, Griffey (Sr.) , and Foster. One more I can't think of for the life of me...initials Dl?
Still...I WANT ROSE AND BENCH!
I was C. Rolled with #8 for Yogi...sry Johnny!
Just throwing it out there if anyone is listening. Still in the tri-state area!
Trust me, none of you are forgotten! On field accomplishments are HoF criteria; not off-field decisions. ❤
Put Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame!
Rose really should have accepted the deal he was offered. He only would have been suspended. There is a good reason Jonny Bench says Rose doesn't belong in the HOF. Here is a quote from an article on the Report that got Rose not only banned, but several months in federal prison.
Interviews with Dowd and others reveal this: Rose could have avoided his eventual conviction on tax evasion and his five months in prison - in addition to his lifetime ban from baseball - if he had only come clean in 1989.
Pete is not the brightest, but he is damn funny! He should be allowed where ever he wants at GABP.
I'm not so sure. I believe he's sneaky bright............
@@frankiesparks2868 💯
I understand why Pete is upset, but under the terms of his ban, he's not allowed onto the field of play, or in the clubhouse. That's why the Reds have never had him do such things. He's allowed to attend "special events," but taking an active role with an MLB club just simply isn't something he is allowed to do.
For the record, I'm a Pete Rose fan.
am i the only one that can listen to him talk about baseball all day ?
The players today hit about .205... motherfuckers NEED Pete Rose to teach them how to hit.
This is an example of how crazy this world is... Pete Rose has always been great for baseball. His attitude as "Charlie Hustle" is unparalleled to this day. Murderers and cheaters are there but not Pete.. BTW , if he never bet against his team, then there wasn't much conflict of interest.
Don't EVER try to justify what Rose did. www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/why-pete-rose-still-cant-be-absolved/378866/
Rose belongs in the Hall. Cincinnati fans love Pete the player.
NO GAMBLING has been posted in every dugout since 1919. He knew that it was against the rules to place bets on the outcome of games. He is 100% responsible for for not being in the HOF.
SHERLYNN JUNIOR he literally accepted that in this video... he said he was pissed off by the reds
Yeah but it’s not like he bet against the reds and told his team to lose like why that rule exists, he bet for his team to win, which is still bad but imo nowhere near taking roids or something
@@echozero8213 Don't ever try to minimize the corrupting effect of Rose's gambling. www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/why-pete-rose-still-cant-be-absolved/378866/
Pete Rose is always a good interview to watch.
2:02 Yes. He is John Dillinger of baseball. Pete broke the most serious rule baseball has.
he bet as a manger and not on the reds so your wrong
I believe that you are mistaken about the Reds part and that he only bet as a Manager. With that said, Rule 21 Misconduct, "(d) Betting on Ball Games, Any player, umpire, or club, or league official, or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible." This is Baseballs Holy Grail of rules. Pete broke it. He is done. You could not ask for a better baseball player. Do any thing you ask him to do. Play smart. Play tough. Lead. Follow. But he had a vise that got him banned for life.
Pete is great to listen to. His rants are very much on target.
They will put him in the HOF the day after he passes away. Sad-
Maybe 100 year after everyone who was alive in 1986 dies
It's going to be a while. Maybe 50 years, but one day he and Joe Jackson will get in.
Sounds like baseball is using the Government's way of doing things. Wait until everyone dies that cares before you reveal anything such as who killed JFK.
No, they really won't
Baseball is in the gambling business now! It’s been 30 yrs and Pete admitted he was wrong many times. Time to put him in
No way, he lied for waaaay too long. He doesn't deserve to be in, he broke the golden rule of baseball. Even after he admitted he bet on baseball he kept on lying about betting on his own team. Let him in after he dies
Yeah, he admitted to it after lying about it for 15 years and did so just so he could sell his book. Time to continue keeping him out for thinking he was bigger than the game.
Exactly they want bonds in the hall of fame, even tho he cheated and did worse things then rose did
Rose is the man ... I love this guy. Loved watching him play growing up.... Legend.
Pete Rose 1975 World Series MVP for the Big Red Machine. All-time hits leader! Enough said!
Pete diving head first into third at the end of T.W.I.B with the music playing.
Epitomizes the game, doesn't it!
Pete Rose will NEVER get into the Hall of Fame as long as Bud Selig is alive. If you know the history you will understand.
I feel for him. But... damit he knew. And further, It really is a shame that there isn’t a little more forgiveness in this world.
Johnny Bench said Pete Rose should not be in the Hall of Fame. Enough said.
Bench saying that publicly is probably a safer bet for his image.
@@ClassicGameMusicHe admitted betting on baseball. Isn’t that enough?
@@bobjones8321 Bench saying that makes Bench sound concerned. I say Pete should be in.
Jordan gambled also probably why they were so focused every game
Pete Rose NEEDS to be in the Hall of Fame. So do Bonds and McGwire. They saved baseball.
Reds fans still love you Pete! You deserve to be in the hall!
Pete got to sit in the broadcast booth when the Phillies invited him back this past summer in 2022. The first thing he did was say to John Kruk, the color analyst, "I knew Johnny when he had two balls." Kruk had testicular cancer in 1994.
there's mountains of knowledge in that head that he could pass on to younger players
This is about the angriest I've ever seen Pete, other than that interview w Jim Gray during the 1999 World Series ....
The thing I've never gotten over with Pete Rose is him looking into the camera multiple times and professing his innocence: I did not gamble on baseball! Then after so long and so much evidence, he admits it. I have issues with liars like that. If he'd admitted and took ownership of his actions then, like he does now, I'd have no problems with him.
Not only that but I think his two biggest strikes were not just betting on baseball, but betting on his own team (he claims he always bet on them to win, seems shady, no way to verify), and he agreed to a lifetime ban. That is like the criminal that accepts a plea deal complaining about it after the fact. I respect what he did as a player, and I've seen him talk, he is a funny guy, but as a person he seems to have major flaws.
Total BS. Yez he gambled, was he wrong to do that yes. Have you ever made a poor choice in life? Show me a human being who HASENT and I'll jump tl the moon for you. Unless those mistakes hurt someone else or someone else's property then why are you making a big deal outnof him gambling. As much as he loves baseball, loves his team and players and fans. Do you really think he would bet against his team and mess up a game on purpose over some money? He was already rich.. he made a mistake. He deserves to be in the hall of fame while he is living. You got roid heads and cheaters in there but Pete gambled so he is shunned? Get real. Do you know how much food it woukd do fkr the game and how much excitement and media stir it would bring if Pete was allowed to manage a major league team? Ppl need to get off their high horse and stop condemning the man. Over GAMBLING. This is so stupid it's unreal he's paid the price and it sets a precedent already to anyone thinking about doing that again.. right is right and wrong is wrong. Opinions though are like ass holes. . How does anyone love baseball and not support rose for the hall of fame? Even if you disliked the man's lifestyle and all his whoring around when married and everything else. That's between him and God and has nothing to do with his baseball accomplishments and by the way all those records. He didn't need ROIDS. For like the cheaters do
@@joshdavis3743
Gamblers usually owe money to really nasty people. Rose gambled big money. When he was in a nasty hole, I'm sure Rose figured betting on his own team (an outcome he could easily manipulate, especially as coach) was a great way to make sure he didn't get his legs broken. Rose broke baseball's most sacred rule: No Gambling. Bye, Pete.
@robertgates5164..How many lies have you told in your lifetime ? Do you still cheat on your wife ?
@@robertlosasso4222 It is the constant lying that hurt Rose. First he lied about gambling at all. Then admitted gambling on baseball but not the Reds. Then bet on them to win as a manager. He is an addict and no way to know how long he was gambling on baseball. Add in the fact he had questionable associates. People associated with organized crime. Baseball did not want to have another situation where baseball was in control of organized crime or the mob. The mob at this point was still around. Throw in fact that he cannot remember if girl he slept with was legal age. Even tho imo 16 is still too young. Throw in fact every deal he has had to potentially get in he has scuttled. One of which would have kept him out of prison, got his gambling debts forgiven, and eventually let him in. The man multiple times had 6 figure gambling debt. Now I do hold MLB to some extent just as culpable. They knew he was a heavy gambler even as far back as when he came in to MLB
Pete, rule#1: “don’t bet on baseball, and....DONT bet on your own team”. Not Pete Rose rules, BASEBALL rules. Broke em both.
over the top disrespect, but that's ok the REAL FANS of the RED'S know who he is.
LOVE PETE Cardinals fan since the 1964 season Pete Rose no douut my fav non Cardinal of all time follow his career all way though still admire his talkin baseball a true HOFer
Such a great player.
Would not won game7. against RedSox wout Petes baserunning skills deep in game!
Not sure who titled this video, but Pete Rose is not mad at the Reds. The Reds have no say in the fact that he can't come in the clubhouse or go down to the cages, that's due to the MLB policy and will not change until he's removed from the permanent ineligible list. Pete has always been pretty forthcoming about his love for that city, and you can be that Cincinnati and Reds fans to this day love him to death.
I'm a reds fan and i completely agree with him. So stupid that the MLB and the Reds won't end this nonsense after all this time
He took his Reds anger to the grave, sadly.
Pete deserves to be in the Hall of Fame⚾️
Sure: let's put into the Hall a guy who NOW admits he played most of his career on speed (do "Mr. Hustle" and his on-field bizarre behaviors make more sense now?) and gambled on baseball, even on games he played in. Sure:. teach our kids that nobody cares if you break the rules as long as you succeed. That kind of [excrement] gets us garbage like Trump.
Pete rose is 78 wth he look 50. What a legend btw I’m from Indiana but we love the reds here
It's not the Reds that wont allow him in the clubhouse, it's MLB.
My father called him Charlie Hustle. He told me to play the game like Pete and I would make a difference. I dove head first, attacked the ball at the plate for base hits and never swung for the fence. Friday nights under the lights with bugs flying around the halogens. The air smelled like popcorn and that sound, that beautiful sweet sound of a ball hitting a wooden bat........CRACK. Jesus I miss playing the game and Mr. Rose is a big part of why.
I'm with you Pete forever!! Been a Reds Fan all my life and Pete Rose fan also!! Love You Man!!
You made the Big red machine great and the real fans remember. We honor Pete RoseWay. Thank you Pete Rose
Pete Rose uses HIS team to gamble, gets caught, still on "lifetime ban". Thinks MLB should lift ban, because he's a "all-time" best hitter. Angry because he thinks Cincy is using his name to sell tickets.
Get over yourself, Pete! You "illegally" bet on a sport you were playing in, and got caught. IT'S YOUR FAULT! WHAT DO YOU THINK A "LIFETIME BAN" MEANS? You might be an awesome player, but YOU GOT CAUGHT!! You learned your lesson. MOVE ON!!
He played the game with passion
I wonder if Pete ever bet over/unders in baseball? Especially I'm wondering about overs. Leave a pitcher in the game too long.
Pete lost big money to gamblers. Gamblers will sell their children to keep going. Did he over-use a closer? Did he rest a closer a few games to load up for a game he thought he could win? Who knows what he did to his lineup as a direct result of gambling.
Also, I don't think most of the public knows about betting the run lines. One last thing, most ball clubs have a defensive specialist. A guy who comes into a game in the later innings. I'm sure Pete didn't use those guys if he had a chance to win a bet.
I have never understood what the issue was against a guy who bet FOR his team. We have domestic abusers: Barry Bonds, Aroldis Chapman, Addison Russell, Yasiel Puig, etc., and they get a slap on the wrist or nothing at all and can keep playing. WTF? This man is one of the GOAT's of the game, whose comments are well respected by some of the biggest names in MLB, still can bring in the crowds when he talks baseball, and he can't even attend a Reds game without paying? Total hypocrisy.
I think we only have Pete's word that he bet for his team and he's
always lied when it helped his cause.
Pete Rose deserves to be in the hall of fame based on his athletic skills. Period. He is a legend and THE AMBASSADOR OF BASEBALL.
I had said to my Dad and anyone who would hear me, for yearsss, that Pete would write a letter for Petey to read. I hope. I HOPE. In that letter, that Pete/Petey tells MLB to "pound sand" and simply walks away from the mic. Pete and his son too, have EVERY RIGHT to say that.
"Goodyear Florida" its Az Maddog
What a jerk. I grew up wanting to be like him until he broke the cardinal sin of baseball. Pete doesn't care about baseball. Pete cares about Pete and Pete only. If he really wants back in he would give a sincere apology. People like him don't. I love baseball and the way he played. You've still got to be a decent human being. He's not. Be humble, be respectful of the game. He just steps on it. Period.
At least he didn't use roids.
Roids help the game but hurt the athlete. Gambling RUINS sports.