This was a totally fair competition because both cars were blue! Would an engineer ever put a mechanic in a compromised situation?! 😉 This was a lot of fun to put together and a nice change of pace - hope everyone is enjoying the holiday/weekend, happy Friday!
In another video: Mechanic vs Engineer - Designing an engine assembly with thermal, fatigue, emissions and manufacturabilty analysis - Result may shock you **NOT CLICKBAIT**
Lol! Yes! Blame their manager who wanted the oil filter design done yesterday and just informed the engineer today... Guess I'm slapping a cartridge upside, in behind the wheel well then!!
@@JohnnyReb2000 lol... and once you get it off, oil drips all over 7 different parts!! 😂 I do love my VW's top oil filter cartridge design... I'm not sure why anyone still uses canister filters anymore.
Especially when it means you make your company get a high bullish market, no recession, and an initial public offering where people bet until you officially are a public company meaning normal people can invest in you.
The smart engineer would have used his Tesla Model 3 for this challenge and won by default for having the most “highly optimized vehicle for changing oil”.
As a former mechanic and currently an engineering student, I appreciate the friendly competition. And as a former VW owner and current Subaru owner, I know why Jason won.
Can’t forget the fact that the filter on the Subaru is a sealed unit. The VW uses a cartridge filter with multiple Orings that needs to be replaced. Between the filter, skid plate and using a lift its a no brainer the VW took longer
@@rkan2 same... Use a marine pump, suck all the oil out of the dip stick tube, replace the cartridge filter on the top, and pour new oil in. No need to jack up the car, remove the belly pan, remove the oil plug, or replace the crush washer. If I was racing... It'd be a 4 minute job.
What is it like going from mechanic to engineer ? Is it hard ? Why don’t most mechanics do this instead of moaning how crap they are treated in Main Dealers ?
Jason cheated. Dropping the drain nut in the oil bucket and then fishing it out is a must when changing your oil. He completely missed this entire step. Amateur.
Are you sure Richard? I was under the impression that you only drop the warm ring and pinion gears of your race car into the drain bucket during qualifying for Le Mans where you can not alter the gear ratio. After checking what "that noise" was, and finding noting wrong, you simply re-assemble the diff with the cold gear set you accidentaly found in the drip pan...
@@MisteRfleX53009 you don't want to change oil with car hot and no matter what i try from aluminum foil over exhaust or funnels oil spills all over exhaust gets in heat shield and gives you burning oil smell for a week
Love the collaboration! I'm on the mechanic side of this battle. Although I like to drain the oil as long as possible. I left my Miata on the lift for 3 hours while it drained. It was a slow day and we had a free lift.
i try for best change possible cleaning where filter gasket was on engine putting a couple ounces of new oil in engine to rinse out oil in nooks and crannies and pre filling filter
Okay Jason wins with the "is this what flat rate feels like?" comment lol, holy crap that got me laughing hard. Now I think back to David and Jack and now Paul has Duncan who I think all came from the flat rate dealership or other service department. Awesome as always Jason and love these collaborations with Charles. Met him finally at last spring's Wookies in the Woods and he is indeed a great guy and very friendly to talk to and hang out with. Thank you for all that you do. Still use your videos all the time to show folks various aspects to automotive engineering. Look forward to the next one.
This is second nature do the mechanic though he will know some of if not all of the bolt sizes by eye and all different tricks for cars that you wouldn't learn unless you've done it a lot. He wouldn't even have to think
As a former mechanic that is now an engineer in training, this was hilarious in so many ways. Well done guys! Also Jealous he got 4/10's for an oil change both dealers I worked at paid 3/10's and yeah its not enough time.
prep time should have been included, like getting out the tools. massive advantage to the mechanic since they are all already out and on tables and stuff. that's what takes me the longest, getting and putting up all the tools
Aside from getting the suction pump out... the hardest part to changing my Passat's oil is remembering which giant metric socket takes the oil filter cover off.
This is all about humour and for the watcher to have a laugh. Because, using different cars is a bit like having two runners have a competition. The goal is to get to the finish, but, one is on a 100meter inside track the other is on a cross-country 10k marathon. In this situation it’s all about having fun, not about the winning..
A wise engineer would install a Fumoto oil drain valve rather than have to unscrew a drain plug. I have them on all my vehicles. The difference between an engineer and an inventor is that an engineer exploits existing devices in clever new ways and combinations to create a new product or system, while an inventor wants to create something that has never existed before.
@@paulsengupta971 for real... Good job, "inventor"... you came up with a less practical way to do it the same old way while that suction pump just eliminated all the problems you solved and some.
I worked at a Kwik Kar Kare oil and lube shop in my youth. When I was in the pit, we could turn out a full service oil change, bumper to bumper lube, interior vac, tire pressure check, fluid level check and safety inspection (lights suspension ect) in 5 minutes flat. My record was 74 in one day. That was 6 bays going at once.
3:35 is a perfect visual of exactly how the mind of an engineer, in any situation, is working. Kindof jumbled, constantly focused. Better yet, a dichotomy of logical planning a rushed execution.
Wouldn't it be amazing if, all around the world, we could have different people with different backgrounds and different ways of thinking who not only respect each other but relish learning from each other....?
EVERY Engineer should be FORCED to take apart and put back together, including repairs, EVERYTHING they design. You'd see a LOT better engineered products!
What about the engineers who actually worked as mechanics before? Also, it is not the engineer in most cases, but the finance guy or project controller who thought it is a good idea to make things complicated just for the sake of a few cents. Engineers can make great products, if one lets them. (Power engineer, who worked as a linesman)
I’ve owned cars like the Crosstrek where the oil change is a breeze. I’ve also owned cars like the R32 where it’s a lot more involved. Kudos to Subaru for making it easy on the Crosstrek.
That was a nice friendly race In addition to demonstrating that a technitian knows that if you have to do something again and again, rathre than once in a while, there is no point in rushing it :))), it does show that the engineers will find a way to bend the rules and get to the goal first. Thank you guys for the fun in competition that makes the engineer look more human and less serious. Take care.
Good competition but I think you should include running the engine and checking the level as part of the time. That can be a very time consuming part. Especially if the dipstick happens to be french. They will make the dipstick the same colour as the oil and have the dip stick go through the filler neck. Could also be a electronic dipstick that needs to driven for half a hour before checking. Then you need to reset the oil service light which could take another 15 min depending on the procedure. Suddenly as 12 min job becomes 1 hour easily.
The techs at the dealership I used to work at would punch a hole in the bottom of each 1 qt. oil container, with a pocket screwdriver, as they were pouring them into the oil fill. Back then we used the small diameter 1 qt. containers vs. the large mouth containers in this video. This allowed the container to vent and pour faster, saved a bit of time. Every second counts on flat rate!
"Most people would probably rather be good at something than win. I think engineers would rather win than be good at something." -Engineering Explained Best Quote Ever
As a Lube Tech I I performed the underside service on 55 vehicles - cars & trucks - in one 7 he shift. Speed was highly stressed, second only to safety... We worked in tandem. Serviced a Honda Civic in about 6 minutes once! But that's with an under car pit and hydraulic oil pump. After moving to a full service shop I still serviced 6-7 vehicles per day. As a Lube Tech I serviced almost 6,000 cars in 6 months! In the Quick Lube shops you'll be servicing two cars at the same time more often than not! It's actually expected of an experienced technician to be able to perform multiple under car services simultaneously. Just go to any busy OilStop and you'll see them roll 100 cars through the doors in one day like it's nothing! 🤣
This would make a great event for deciding the FIA, F1 constructors championship. Can you see Toto Wolf vs Christian Horner changing the oil on the F1 safety car or Medical car for points in the competition. Great fun!
To be fair, most of us don't have lifts to raise the car so sliding underneath is the only option (maybe a jack to raise a few inches) if it was low slung.
I'm amazed he got under the car that easily. Last time I changed the oil without using either an oil pit or a lift I got down only to realize there was no way I was going to get my head in under the car with it flat on the ground. And that was nothing more exotic than a Toyota Corolla.
Yup, I couldn't take the drain plug out of my Passat without a jack because 1) the belly pan covers it and 2) it has about 5" of ground clearance. ... and 3) I'm not a stick figure like Jason.
For an engineer he should understand why breaking the dipstick seal should help with flow since the only other hope is the drain plug and that’s already screwed on
That was great fun, cheers chaps! I thought I had it licked recently, doing the oil change on my Jaguar XF diesel. There's a suction pipe to drain the oil and the filter is up top. So I hooked up my pump and....well, the only tube I had which fit was silicone tube. And the suction made it collapse! It took a good 20 mins to suck out all the oil. I've since bought some PVC tube to fit!
NOW, when I had my '92 Corrado SLC with the VR6 engine, I was very careful about that damn oil filter! I opened the bottom drain the night before and let it drain. Then when I did my oil change I just twisted the cap off and a towel under the car was all I needed. The rest of the VR6 oil change was just not getting any oil on the pretty cover of the engine.
"Pound-feet" YEP! There's the engineer! The rest of the world uses "Foot-pounds" even though that means something else. Thank you for sharing and stay safe!
they skipped over the fact that the mechanic pulled the oil fill cap off first which helps with letting air into the crank case to let the oil drain faster out the bottom.
Doing an oil change on a Teledine Contenental T.S.I.O. 560 is quite easy. 10 quarts out via a slight tug on the quick drain plug (wait until oil is out, push the plug back into the closed position), change the filter (+clipping and replacing the safety wire), 10 quarts in - done...oh and replacing the engine nacell cowling.
You gotta try changing the oil on a Honda Rebel or Nighthawk 250. Two minutes, no crawling, no lifting, no filter, 1.5 qt or 1.2l. Pan, box wrench or socket, 1 and a half bottles of oil, done. Easiest oil change I've ever done, including a lawnmower.
In 1985, I could change the oil at a leisurely pace on my '77 Volkswagen Rabbit in 20 minutes. That is because the oil filter was accessible from above and I could simply reach down and spin it off. -My Current '14 Cayman S requires my car to be lifted by my Bendpak Quickjack, So it takes about two hours.
In that 24 minutes he talked about, that includes replacing the sticker, maintenance light, checking tire pressure, air filter and usually topping of fluids. Most places I've worked actually paid less time than .4 of an hour.
Get a Fumoto oil drain valve for the Subaru! I've been using them for years. Between the oil filter having been moved up top and the oil drain valve oil changes are a snap!
My girlfriend's TDI Beetle, with top mounted oil filter, 4" of ground clearance, and the massive aero plate on the bottom, is the reason I bought a vacuum fluid extractor. Only changed the oil the hard way once. Never again.
Worst preventable oil change mistake I've seen is missing the gasket that was left over from the oil filter removal. Double gasket blew and spun the bearings of a fairly heavily moddified Mazda ms3 😬
It helps that the Crosstrek is hands-down one of the easiest oil changes I’ve ever done. 15 minutes maximum, taking my time. Everything else is just as easy to work on and service on that car, too.
My mechanic: does it matter if we use Mobil 1? We change your oil regularly all the time. Me: Yes, it does matter. Because it's my car and I feel better using the best. Mobil 1. Good enough for Toyota/Lexus. Great for you.
cartridge filters are big in in some areas of Diesel world (but not all brands). interesting design that Subaru in that it's a spin on but placed inside a bowl like a cartridge (no cap). definitely need that bowl to keep from making a huge mess. Toyotas are semi-inverted like that but traditional pad mounted and dumps all over the place similar to Charles removing that "wrong way mounted" cartridge on the VW.
@@phillyphil1513 My Toyota Rav4 has a filter cartridge but is serviced from underneath in the traditional orientation. Even has a drain plug in the filter housing.
@@twinturbostang no doubt, Toyota has many different engines in modern day. i speak specifically of the older/ubiquitous 3S 2.0L and 5SL 2.2L 4 cylinders. they put those in everything and they go 200k-400k easy.
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This was a totally fair competition because both cars were blue! Would an engineer ever put a mechanic in a compromised situation?! 😉 This was a lot of fun to put together and a nice change of pace - hope everyone is enjoying the holiday/weekend, happy Friday!
Well, my car is grey so I’ll tell my garage they should be able to do it under 6 minutes 😁.
If not they may consider hiring an engineer! 🤪
😃😃
My take-away from this: If you want to own a German car, be prepared to spend more time working on it. 😛
In another video: Mechanic vs Engineer - Designing an engine assembly with thermal, fatigue, emissions and manufacturabilty analysis - Result may shock you **NOT CLICKBAIT**
LOL...🤣🤣🤣
It's not the engineer's job to change oil. It's their job to make the oil change as difficult as possible.
Lol! Yes!
Blame their manager who wanted the oil filter design done yesterday and just informed the engineer today... Guess I'm slapping a cartridge upside, in behind the wheel well then!!
@@jasono2139, or sideways directly above the front differential where you can barely fit an oil filter wrench I needed as is the case with my truck.
@@JohnnyReb2000 lol... and once you get it off, oil drips all over 7 different parts!! 😂
I do love my VW's top oil filter cartridge design... I'm not sure why anyone still uses canister filters anymore.
"Engineers would rather win, than be good at something." So many things just became so clear.
I was amazed how true this statement is lol
Especially when it means you make your company get a high bullish market, no recession, and an initial public offering where people bet until you officially are a public company meaning normal people can invest in you.
@@Brandon-xe2se best about it, it true for any kind of engineer.
I think this statement deserves to be on a t-shirt
@@davidebacchi9030 haha I agree!!
The smart engineer would have used his Tesla Model 3 for this challenge and won by default for having the most “highly optimized vehicle for changing oil”.
Humble Mechanic's reply would be "Gears have oil, start changing Dude."
Here I was coming to the comment section to be all clever and mention his Model 3 . . . and I'm late to the party!
@@philipmackin1025 does the model 3 even have gears?
smort ↗
@@bcunningham3718 Well it has one. And that is engaged all the time.
I think we should do another challenge!!!! as long as I don't have to math and math. LOL
You can use siri as your calculator while your hands are dirty
@@xilnes7166 300IQ level thinking there... I like it
@HumbleMechanic A vacuum oil extractor goes a long way on the VWs! No lift/ramps/jacks and no removing the drain plug! I love my mkIV TDI wagon 5spd 😃
Just break out a white board!
I am an engineer but i just ask Siri to do the conversions for me 🤣
As a former mechanic and currently an engineering student, I appreciate the friendly competition. And as a former VW owner and current Subaru owner, I know why Jason won.
Meh, I would've sucked the oil out from the top and my VW also has the oil filter on the top like on Jason's Subaru.
Don't forget different in engine sizes and fluid capacity and viscosity.
Can’t forget the fact that the filter on the Subaru is a sealed unit. The VW uses a cartridge filter with multiple Orings that needs to be replaced. Between the filter, skid plate and using a lift its a no brainer the VW took longer
@@rkan2 same... Use a marine pump, suck all the oil out of the dip stick tube, replace the cartridge filter on the top, and pour new oil in.
No need to jack up the car, remove the belly pan, remove the oil plug, or replace the crush washer.
If I was racing... It'd be a 4 minute job.
What is it like going from mechanic to engineer ? Is it hard ? Why don’t most mechanics do this instead of moaning how crap they are treated in Main Dealers ?
I love it! This was some awesome light hearted humor. We all know Engineers make cars to be assembled, not worked on! 😆
Thanks Doug! 😂
I have to work with the techs who maintain the equipment. I learned the lesson on ease of maintenance early.
So true… would love to have an engineer work with me in shop for a week. And see some of the bs us mechanics put up with. LOL 😂
@@FixingWithFriends Old timer Engineers at Toyota, Nowdays, lets make them frequently come here ( authorised service center).
I'd love to see a video where an engineer has to maintain and/or repair a car he designed.
Jason cheated.
Dropping the drain nut in the oil bucket and then fishing it out is a must when changing your oil.
He completely missed this entire step.
Amateur.
He also forgot about getting oil to run down his arm inside his sleave 😅
Are you sure Richard?
I was under the impression that you only drop the warm ring and pinion gears of your race car into the drain bucket during qualifying for Le Mans where you can not alter the gear ratio.
After checking what "that noise" was, and finding noting wrong, you simply re-assemble the diff with the cold gear set you accidentaly found in the drip pan...
Absolutely right. You have to lubricate the drain plug.
That Subaru oil filter location is just brilliant. Makes things so easy and clean.
yeah my subaru has worst location possible id like to smack the engineer who made my 2012 legacy
@@ranger178 ring of fire?
@@MisteRfleX53009 you don't want to change oil with car hot and no matter what i try from aluminum foil over exhaust or funnels oil spills all over exhaust gets in heat shield and gives you burning oil smell for a week
i swapped my drain plug with a ball valve. You can change the oil in my WRX without turning a wrench nor jacking the car (if you're scrawny enough)
Love the collaboration! I'm on the mechanic side of this battle. Although I like to drain the oil as long as possible. I left my Miata on the lift for 3 hours while it drained. It was a slow day and we had a free lift.
At what point did it stop dripping? By the first hour?
Three hours! Every. Last. Drop. Admittedly, I wait a bit longer when it’s not a race haha.
BMW would void your warranty if they saw this video. 😂
i try for best change possible cleaning where filter gasket was on engine putting a couple ounces of new oil in engine to rinse out oil in nooks and crannies and pre filling filter
Warm oil. Drained in 15 minutes....lol then put water hose in it
Now this is what I call a Feelgood movie - the special friendship between an engineer and a mechanic.
Okay Jason wins with the "is this what flat rate feels like?" comment lol, holy crap that got me laughing hard. Now I think back to David and Jack and now Paul has Duncan who I think all came from the flat rate dealership or other service department. Awesome as always Jason and love these collaborations with Charles. Met him finally at last spring's Wookies in the Woods and he is indeed a great guy and very friendly to talk to and hang out with. Thank you for all that you do. Still use your videos all the time to show folks various aspects to automotive engineering. Look forward to the next one.
Software engineer would spend hours programming the robot only for it to do it one second faster. 😂
Yeah but then the robot would do that 60 times and save a minute continuously while the programmers is asleep
If the robot does it without you, it took you zero time to change the oil.
I dont know WHO I want to see, but a whole series of you guys working on a car like this would be awesome. Break pads, disks, clutch etc.
This is second nature do the mechanic though he will know some of if not all of the bolt sizes by eye and all different tricks for cars that you wouldn't learn unless you've done it a lot. He wouldn't even have to think
Yes, and they could each do a different side of the same car.
Only on your channel can engineers and mechanics be friends...🤣🤣🤣
Probably because Charles isn't being asked to work on a car that Jason designed!! 🤣
I've been editing videos all week, and I really appreciate the order, and smoothness of this video.
Thank you! It was a lot of editing work to put together! 🙏🙏
Engineer: you don't need a lift to change oil
Also engineer: does two oil changes per year.
...not if you have a marine pump with the oil filter on the top of the motor! 😉
As a former mechanic that is now an engineer in training, this was hilarious in so many ways. Well done guys! Also Jealous he got 4/10's for an oil change both dealers I worked at paid 3/10's and yeah its not enough time.
I used to get .3 for Subaru oil changes and it’s brutal, .8 for oil change + rotate + balance tires
The Humble Mechanic and The Cocky Engineer have a better chemistry going on than all the other TH-camr couples.
That's because they're both men.
prep time should have been included, like getting out the tools. massive advantage to the mechanic since they are all already out and on tables and stuff. that's what takes me the longest, getting and putting up all the tools
Aside from getting the suction pump out... the hardest part to changing my Passat's oil is remembering which giant metric socket takes the oil filter cover off.
@@jasono2139 lmaooo fr
We need to rerun this competition with IROC-type rules: identical cars.
Basically a Japanese Engineering beats German Engineering in simplicity lol
When he said "this is a pretty straight forward vw oil change" I laughed
plenty if VWs have a filter on the top :P Also no reason to take the oil out via the drain plug unless you change your oils every 5 years lol
This is all about humour and for the watcher to have a laugh. Because, using different cars is a bit like having two runners have a competition. The goal is to get to the finish, but, one is on a 100meter inside track the other is on a cross-country 10k marathon. In this situation it’s all about having fun, not about the winning..
Precisely haha, just about having a good time with a friend.
Two of the coolest car enthusiasts on the web.
At 9:45 the subtitles say "Current step: Drive off the ramps"... in a car with no oil!
A wise engineer would install a Fumoto oil drain valve rather than have to unscrew a drain plug. I have them on all my vehicles. The difference between an engineer and an inventor is that an engineer exploits existing devices in clever new ways and combinations to create a new product or system, while an inventor wants to create something that has never existed before.
Many cars these days have an oil change pipe up top so you can just suck the oil out that way.
+1 Fumoto
@@paulsengupta971 for real... Good job, "inventor"... you came up with a less practical way to do it the same old way while that suction pump just eliminated all the problems you solved and some.
I did my first oil change on my grand Cherokee L & it took over 40 minutes, because it’s my car. I also did a few software update 😁
In all fairness, the Subaru is a genuinely easier oil change
I worked at a Kwik Kar Kare oil and lube shop in my youth. When I was in the pit, we could turn out a full service oil change, bumper to bumper lube, interior vac, tire pressure check, fluid level check and safety inspection (lights suspension ect) in 5 minutes flat. My record was 74 in one day. That was 6 bays going at once.
The shop was called KKK??? 😲🤣
3:35 is a perfect visual of exactly how the mind of an engineer, in any situation, is working. Kindof jumbled, constantly focused. Better yet, a dichotomy of logical planning a rushed execution.
Wouldn't it be amazing if, all around the world, we could have different people with different backgrounds and different ways of thinking who not only respect each other but relish learning from each other....?
No drain plugs were harmed in the making of this video lol
P.S. turn the bottle for a faster pour haha.
I am not sure what sparked this but I enjoyed it. Especially the commentary.
Race changing tires! Race changing headlight bulbs! Race changing interior air filters! Great series….
EVERY Engineer should be FORCED to take apart and put back together, including repairs, EVERYTHING they design. You'd see a LOT better engineered products!
What about the engineers who actually worked as mechanics before? Also, it is not the engineer in most cases, but the finance guy or project controller who thought it is a good idea to make things complicated just for the sake of a few cents. Engineers can make great products, if one lets them.
(Power engineer, who worked as a linesman)
I wish I had a two post lift at home. Here I am rolling around on the ground like an engineer.
My Tesla has an 8 quart oil pan, still haven't found the drain plug though.
You have to pull the pump to drain the drive unit.
@@dannelson6980 I'll try that. Maybe I'll put a new air filter in it while I'm in the garage also.
I’ve owned cars like the Crosstrek where the oil change is a breeze.
I’ve also owned cars like the R32 where it’s a lot more involved.
Kudos to Subaru for making it easy on the Crosstrek.
This was hilarious. .875 rotations...LOL.
And not a thousandth more! 😂
On a TI-83, only the best engineers are using those. Now I feel wrong using a TI-84
That was a nice friendly race
In addition to demonstrating that a technitian knows that if you have to do something again and again, rathre than once in a while, there is no point in rushing it :))), it does show that the engineers will find a way to bend the rules and get to the goal first.
Thank you guys for the fun in competition that makes the engineer look more human and less serious.
Take care.
Good competition but I think you should include running the engine and checking the level as part of the time. That can be a very time consuming part. Especially if the dipstick happens to be french. They will make the dipstick the same colour as the oil and have the dip stick go through the filler neck. Could also be a electronic dipstick that needs to driven for half a hour before checking. Then you need to reset the oil service light which could take another 15 min depending on the procedure. Suddenly as 12 min job becomes 1 hour easily.
The techs at the dealership I used to work at would punch a hole in the bottom of each 1 qt. oil container, with a pocket screwdriver, as they were pouring them into the oil fill. Back then we used the small diameter 1 qt. containers vs. the large mouth containers in this video. This allowed the container to vent and pour faster, saved a bit of time. Every second counts on flat rate!
I can vouch for this. I have a 2013 impreza (same 2.0 boxer from the crosstrek) and these engines are literally dummy proof for oil changes
And yet how many Subaru owners do NOT change their oil at the required interval? Quite a few examples here on YT.
@@aeroman5239 you said it brother. I change mine religiously every 3k miles with purple royal ow20
"Most people would probably rather be good at something than win. I think engineers would rather win than be good at something." -Engineering Explained
Best Quote Ever
As a Lube Tech I I performed the underside service on 55 vehicles - cars & trucks - in one 7 he shift. Speed was highly stressed, second only to safety... We worked in tandem. Serviced a Honda Civic in about 6 minutes once! But that's with an under car pit and hydraulic oil pump. After moving to a full service shop I still serviced 6-7 vehicles per day. As a Lube Tech I serviced almost 6,000 cars in 6 months! In the Quick Lube shops you'll be servicing two cars at the same time more often than not! It's actually expected of an experienced technician to be able to perform multiple under car services simultaneously. Just go to any busy OilStop and you'll see them roll 100 cars through the doors in one day like it's nothing! 🤣
I love the entertainment value of this video, The humor the fun everything. Good editing by showing simultaneously... Really enjoyed it.!
Thank you, really appreciate it!
My 2 favourite vehicle TH-camrs in one video!! Happy Friday to me!!
Spin-on oil filters always save time. Cartridge filters are a little bit slower because of replacing o-rings.
As a fellow engineer, I support this message.
This would make a great event for deciding the FIA, F1 constructors championship. Can you see Toto Wolf vs Christian Horner changing the oil on the F1 safety car or Medical car for points in the competition. Great fun!
Congratulations, Jason! I believe that Roger Penske would refer to the edge that you employed to win as the "Unfair Advantage".
Charles seems so relaxed and works so smoothly to get the job done.
To be fair, most of us don't have lifts to raise the car so sliding underneath is the only option (maybe a jack to raise a few inches) if it was low slung.
I'm amazed he got under the car that easily. Last time I changed the oil without using either an oil pit or a lift I got down only to realize there was no way I was going to get my head in under the car with it flat on the ground. And that was nothing more exotic than a Toyota Corolla.
Yup, I couldn't take the drain plug out of my Passat without a jack because 1) the belly pan covers it and 2) it has about 5" of ground clearance.
... and 3) I'm not a stick figure like Jason.
For an engineer he should understand why breaking the dipstick seal should help with flow since the only other hope is the drain plug and that’s already screwed on
He certainly understood it. He was just having fun bantering.
That was fun, since I'm an engineer I'm glad you won. 👍
That was great fun, cheers chaps! I thought I had it licked recently, doing the oil change on my Jaguar XF diesel. There's a suction pipe to drain the oil and the filter is up top. So I hooked up my pump and....well, the only tube I had which fit was silicone tube. And the suction made it collapse! It took a good 20 mins to suck out all the oil. I've since bought some PVC tube to fit!
NOW, when I had my '92 Corrado SLC with the VR6 engine, I was very careful about that damn oil filter! I opened the bottom drain the night before and let it drain. Then when I did my oil change I just twisted the cap off and a towel under the car was all I needed. The rest of the VR6 oil change was just not getting any oil on the pretty cover of the engine.
"Pound-feet" YEP! There's the engineer! The rest of the world uses "Foot-pounds" even though that means something else. Thank you for sharing and stay safe!
The rest of the world uses Newton-Metres! ;-)
What do you mean you're not very strong. You've always been a muscular beast.
A supportive comment about physical appearance on TH-cam?! This cannot be! 😂
@@EngineeringExplained I'm over 6' and was 165 lbs. for a lot of my life. Join the club. 😁
they skipped over the fact that the mechanic pulled the oil fill cap off first which helps with letting air into the crank case to let the oil drain faster out the bottom.
Jokes on you, I'm a Software and Electrical Engineer and don't know how to change my oil XD
Me neither lol
Do another challenge.
Change a clutch on the same vehicle of choice as per oil change challenge.
Very excited to see it
Doing an oil change on a Teledine Contenental T.S.I.O. 560 is quite easy. 10 quarts out via a slight tug on the quick drain plug (wait until oil is out, push the plug back into the closed position), change the filter (+clipping and replacing the safety wire), 10 quarts in - done...oh and replacing the engine nacell cowling.
You gotta try changing the oil on a Honda Rebel or Nighthawk 250. Two minutes, no crawling, no lifting, no filter, 1.5 qt or 1.2l. Pan, box wrench or socket, 1 and a half bottles of oil, done.
Easiest oil change I've ever done, including a lawnmower.
In 1985, I could change the oil at a leisurely pace on my '77 Volkswagen Rabbit in 20 minutes. That is because the oil filter was accessible from above and I could simply reach down and spin it off.
-My Current '14 Cayman S requires my car to be lifted by my Bendpak Quickjack, So it takes about two hours.
In that 24 minutes he talked about, that includes replacing the sticker, maintenance light, checking tire pressure, air filter and usually topping of fluids.
Most places I've worked actually paid less time than .4 of an hour.
Been thin enough to not have to lift the car one inch is a big help and smart enough to cut corners and still do the job properly won the battle
Get a Fumoto oil drain valve for the Subaru! I've been using them for years. Between the oil filter having been moved up top and the oil drain valve oil changes are a snap!
Fun video. It is so easy to change oil on a CrossTrek. Sweet VW though!
It is so easy! Love it.
If there is anything I’ve learned from trying to do things faster than others. Never rush.
only takeaway from this is you guys both have excellent taste in cars. Miata and Golf R32...
My girlfriend's TDI Beetle, with top mounted oil filter, 4" of ground clearance, and the massive aero plate on the bottom, is the reason I bought a vacuum fluid extractor. Only changed the oil the hard way once. Never again.
Use an oil drain plug valve like Fumoto and save even more time plus no oil spill on the floor. - Jim
Just used Mobil 1 for an oil change in my fresh k20z1 .. So far so good 👍👍
1 more tip, probably not filmed: after filling the oil, run the engine for 15-30 seconds to fill up the filter and then check the oil level.
Worst preventable oil change mistake I've seen is missing the gasket that was left over from the oil filter removal. Double gasket blew and spun the bearings of a fairly heavily moddified Mazda ms3 😬
I will always check for that now even though I always look at I take it off anyway.
More general maintenance would make a good series. Brakes, tires, or even something more complex like swapping suspension components
this is awesome and fun. At 04:01 this just killed me 😂 I didn't see this coming. Next in the competition, well depends what type but I can join.
If we count “cool-car-factor” the R32/ humble mechanic wins.
Well you guys started with a oil change race. Next up would be a tire rotation race. Wheel stud vs wheel bolts.
It helps that the Crosstrek is hands-down one of the easiest oil changes I’ve ever done. 15 minutes maximum, taking my time. Everything else is just as easy to work on and service on that car, too.
The B7 Passat with 1.8T is even easier.
I'm late to watch this vid but great job on this one! It's a funny competition but full with very useful tips for oil change. Keep up the good work.
yeah that tiny difference in flow due to the viscosity amounted to a 6 minute difference in the pour.
This was awesome, hope you do some more races like this!
Engineers don't change oil that's why they make sure to hide the filter for the mechanics
this was hilarious, including the pro tips from both sides. calculator on table, torque wrench on floor
Next episode: Charles vs Jason vs CarWizard vs Alex LSC
Super entertaining. I haven't laughed and smiled this much during a TH-cam vid in a long while, at least that I can remember. I won't forget this.
One crush washer for every cylinder... So THAT's what I've been doing wrong all these years! 😉👍
My mechanic: does it matter if we use Mobil 1? We change your oil regularly all the time.
Me: Yes, it does matter. Because it's my car and I feel better using the best.
Mobil 1. Good enough for Toyota/Lexus. Great for you.
Next up - who can replace their head gaskets the fastest?
This was far more enjoyable than it should have been! Great collaboration.
Time to get the car to the mechanic not included
Love this channel. But I wouldn’t have any engineer touch anything in my shop or my car. Lol. You can certainly give me your input though.
So funny! An engineer and a mechanic walk into a... really appreciate the humor. Happy Holidays!!
I like the video format, switching back between the two!
Calculating the rotations got me. 😂
Fun video! I also leave tools all over the floor. And clothes. And pretty much everything. Does that make me an engineer?!
Never seen an oil filter that could be changed from the engine bay, instead of underneath the car. Cool!
My 2001 BMW straight six oil filter was in the engine bay. It was also a filter element style. Nice!
cartridge filters are big in in some areas of Diesel world (but not all brands). interesting design that Subaru in that it's a spin on but placed inside a bowl like a cartridge (no cap). definitely need that bowl to keep from making a huge mess. Toyotas are semi-inverted like that but traditional pad mounted and dumps all over the place similar to Charles removing that "wrong way mounted" cartridge on the VW.
@@phillyphil1513 My Toyota Rav4 has a filter cartridge but is serviced from underneath in the traditional orientation. Even has a drain plug in the filter housing.
@@twinturbostang no doubt, Toyota has many different engines in modern day. i speak specifically of the older/ubiquitous 3S 2.0L and 5SL 2.2L 4 cylinders. they put those in everything and they go 200k-400k easy.
@@phillyphil1513 Gotcha. My Rav is a 2006 and has the V6. 190K and still going! She gets synthetic oil every time.
You both do the oil change on the MX5 and see how equipment slays the calculator!.