I had to refuse some English notes for weekend in the Scottish boarders. Scotland had stopped accepting paper notes in that denomination but England hadn't. English tourists were going mental. Found it very hard to to laugh. I also worked a few jobs in England pre-pandemic. A shop we were doing work in, in England, refused to accept a Scottish fiver from a member of our staff. I went into their staff room and brought out the poster showing pictures of all the notes they accept. Including the Scottish ones.
If it says sterling it's legal tender to use in the UK British Scottish and northern Ireland bank notes the only ones you can't use in the UK are the notes from the British isles like Jersey
I had this problem in 1970, and just shows that they'll take our taxes etc. then refuse our notes! I went into the bank in Coventry and did my nut! I was attended to swiftly, as a raging wee Scottish lassie was not good for business and the other customers were having good amusement! ...old Tich.
Legal tender is utterly irrelevant on point of sale transactions. It's purely a matter of agreement between buyer and seller. The shops have every right to refuse any banknote, including Bank of England notes. Many places in England no longer accept Bank of England banknotes either, as they go cashless. A number of bars in Bristol are cash free now, as is the new Tottenham Hotspur stadium. The Bank of England is the UK's central bank, not the central bank of England. An "English" banknote is actually a UK note. The probability of a Bank of England note being accepted anywhere within its jurisdiction of the UK is thus naturally higher than the probability of a Scottish (or Northern Irish) note being accepted outside of those countries. Lack of familiarity is a perfectly justifiable reason for not accepting a note outside of its country of origin, not that a reason has to be supplied. Easier to pass off counterfeit notes when they're not familiar. Hate Crime? 😂
Not a hate crime, but it is 100% rooted in ignorance and a general intolerance, every single post office in the UK has their staff trained and they are given documentation to be able to spot forgeries regardless of what the currency is, to use the "unfamiliar" excuse for a post office in a shitty back water town in the UK that would accept a dollar is absolute mental gymnastics at its finest, if you're seriously going to try and rationalise that this tiny ass little town is more familiar with dollars than they are Scottish pounds, then you're completely delusional.
Exactly infact a lot of places refuse to accept £50 English in case it is counterfeit. If you buy something for £5 and pay with a fake £50 you'd get £45 of genuine money. It's simply not worth the risk unless you can actually test the note for authenticity.
@@GarryGri it doesn't matter. No reason needs to be given for refusal. But lack of familiarity is a justifiable reason in any event.... you can read Bank of Scotland on a bank note without being familiar with what Bank of Scotland banknotes are supposed to look like!
@@matttyrer9096 I know no reason needs to be given and agree lack of familiarity can be a justifiable reason. The point of this video is to ask what those reasons may be and if it is 'hate crime' though. And if it isn't lack of familiarity it may well be hate! We just dont and cant know. Why would someone hate a Scottish or Northern Irish bank note though? That just sounds silly to me.
'legal tender' is actually a very specific, and archaic, legal term. And doesn't mean what people generally think it means. The correct term is 'Legal Currency' which the Scottish and Irish note obviously are within the whole of the UK. England is the only country where notes from other UK countries are generally not accepted. I generally put this down to ignorance of other notes rather than 'hate.' In my experience most places in english cities and bigger towns generally have no issue with Scottish (or Northern Irish) notes. English people in more remote areas may generally only see English notes, and may be confused by a note they don't recognise. But if they know it is Scottish or Northern Irish and don't accept it I haven't really got an explanation for that. So I can see the annoyance and why this could be seen as 'hate.' Aren't post offices supposed to be obliged to take all UK notes by law? I could be wrong here, but I thought that they were.
"Scottish currency isn't considered legal tender in England but is widely accepted." Scottish money isn't legal tender in Scotland, either. So it would have been more correct to say UK instead of England.
It is legal tender in England. Both northern irish and scottish notes are legal tender here in England but they tend to be refused in fear of counterfeits. Post offices have no excuse and should be able to test the note for authenticity. I wouldn't call it racism or a hate crime its just ignorance. I worked in Morrisons and we had a machine that tests all UK notes for authentication so we did accept both scottish and northern irish pounds aslong as the machine accepted them. If the machine rejected any notes English, Scottish or Northern Irish it was counterfeit.
@@paulw314 it's not ignorance. Scottish and Northern Irish banknotes are NOT legal tender anywhere, not even in Scotland and Northern Ireland (its one of the great urban myths that they are)! Even Bank of England banknotes are NOT legal tender in Scotland! But the question of legal tender doesn't even matter anyway in this context. Any shop has every right to refuse a banknote on a point of sale transaction, legal tender or not, anywhere in the UK.
@@matttyrer9096 Yes , but the question here is why would they do this? In that case if it is not ignorance is it 'hate?' Most people don't really know what 'legal tender' is or means. They think in means' legal currency for that country.' Arguing 'legal tender' or 'legal currency' is just semantics to some people. I know technically it's not, but then 'legal Tender' has nothing to do with spending valid UK notes at retail outlets in any case. So what they are calling it is largely irrelevant, people know what they mean either way.
This is nothing new, I went to Bridlington on holiday for years and shops would never ever accept Scottish notes, surprisingly not even a UK charity shop !!!! In my local bank there are 2 ATM machines one gives Scottish notes and the other gives English notes 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Had this once with northern irish notes in a pub ,funny tho i told the lanlord i had 3oo quid and we going to spend the lot he was more than happy to accept moot subject notes scottish and irish can be paid into uk bank.
in Thailand scottish notes are only worth 70% when you use currency exchange against an english note, Clydesdale bank are only worth 50% value against english notes. In birmingham new street station there illegal and transport police will get involved if you don't move away for the ticket booth and goto an ATM to withdraw english notes for you train ticket. Easy jet also don't accept then flying form an english airport but will accept them flying form a scottish one. It's just the way it is. (late the abusive comments against the scottish begin)
I'm Scottish, no abuse from me, I totally understand that it's every business or shops perogative to refuse any note it wants to, they don't even have to accept your business, full stop. That said, your grammar is fuckin awful.
Good on him! Of course nothing would happen though. Hate crimes that get followed are more things like calling a man sir when he has pink socks on and thinks he’s a woman.
It's so stupid that retail banks issue their own notes. A Bank of Britain with consistent notes across the whole country would have solved all problems. Instead allowing retail banks to issue allowed more possibility of counterfeits and petty local nationalism.
@@intouchdm I don't think any other country has retail banks issue bank notes. They are perfectly ok in Wales. Places on the edge of these islands are more insular and less diverse.
@@starrynight1657 it’s all sterling currency ie legal tender. No matter where in the uk it’s from a £10 note is a £10 note. Ignorance of this changes nothing. If you are stupid enough to turn away custom and money because of this then it’s you who is missing out.
this wont be a problem soon anyway as were fast becoming a cashless society and we pay everything via credit or debit card cheques have all but disappeared cash will do the same as we go into electronic payments
@@morbideddie who told you that buddy?........these are officially legal tender in the Scotland and hundred percent acceptable..... However majority of the British people dont recognize this currency that's why they consider it a fantasy bank note..... I'm bank notes collector myself and I have banknotes almost from all the world...... I have spent some many years on researching on world paper money...... Apart from that.........there are three banks in Scotland who issue Bank notes and every bank has its own design. I'm gonna give you the list of banks in all over UK and you could Google them by yourself 1. Bank of England 2. Bank of Scotland 3. Royal Bank of Scotland 4. Clydesdale bank 5. Ulster bank 6. Bank of Ireland 7. Danske bank 8. Bank of Northern Ireland.
@@sonubhatti964 the Bank of England told me. Scottish notes aren’t legal tender according to any source I can find. I don’t think you can post like but the Bank of England site states “Scottish notes aren’t legal tender in England or Scotland”. Can you provide a quote from a reliable source stating they are legal tender?
I had to refuse some English notes for weekend in the Scottish boarders. Scotland had stopped accepting paper notes in that denomination but England hadn't. English tourists were going mental. Found it very hard to to laugh. I also worked a few jobs in England pre-pandemic. A shop we were doing work in, in England, refused to accept a Scottish fiver from a member of our staff. I went into their staff room and brought out the poster showing pictures of all the notes they accept. Including the Scottish ones.
If it says sterling it's legal tender to use in the UK British Scottish and northern Ireland bank notes the only ones you can't use in the UK are the notes from the British isles like Jersey
Northern Ireland is part of the UK
I had this problem in 1970, and just shows that they'll take our taxes etc. then refuse our notes! I went into the bank in Coventry and did my nut! I was attended to swiftly, as a raging wee Scottish lassie was not good for business and the other customers were having good amusement! ...old Tich.
🙃that this is still an issue is fucking ridiculous!!! Only in England is this an issue!!! People DO BETTER!
A hate crime, Jesus christ wtf is wrong with the world
Legal tender is utterly irrelevant on point of sale transactions. It's purely a matter of agreement between buyer and seller. The shops have every right to refuse any banknote, including Bank of England notes.
Many places in England no longer accept Bank of England banknotes either, as they go cashless. A number of bars in Bristol are cash free now, as is the new Tottenham Hotspur stadium.
The Bank of England is the UK's central bank, not the central bank of England. An "English" banknote is actually a UK note. The probability of a Bank of England note being accepted anywhere within its jurisdiction of the UK is thus naturally higher than the probability of a Scottish (or Northern Irish) note being accepted outside of those countries.
Lack of familiarity is a perfectly justifiable reason for not accepting a note outside of its country of origin, not that a reason has to be supplied. Easier to pass off counterfeit notes when they're not familiar.
Hate Crime? 😂
Not a hate crime, but it is 100% rooted in ignorance and a general intolerance, every single post office in the UK has their staff trained and they are given documentation to be able to spot forgeries regardless of what the currency is, to use the "unfamiliar" excuse for a post office in a shitty back water town in the UK that would accept a dollar is absolute mental gymnastics at its finest, if you're seriously going to try and rationalise that this tiny ass little town is more familiar with dollars than they are Scottish pounds, then you're completely delusional.
Exactly infact a lot of places refuse to accept £50 English in case it is counterfeit. If you buy something for £5 and pay with a fake £50 you'd get £45 of genuine money. It's simply not worth the risk unless you can actually test the note for authenticity.
But is this case it wasn't 'lack of familiarity' because they identified it as a Scottish note!
@@GarryGri it doesn't matter. No reason needs to be given for refusal. But lack of familiarity is a justifiable reason in any event.... you can read Bank of Scotland on a bank note without being familiar with what Bank of Scotland banknotes are supposed to look like!
@@matttyrer9096 I know no reason needs to be given and agree lack of familiarity can be a justifiable reason.
The point of this video is to ask what those reasons may be and if it is 'hate crime' though.
And if it isn't lack of familiarity it may well be hate! We just dont and cant know.
Why would someone hate a Scottish or Northern Irish bank note though? That just sounds silly to me.
'legal tender' is actually a very specific, and archaic, legal term. And doesn't mean what people generally think it means.
The correct term is 'Legal Currency' which the Scottish and Irish note obviously are within the whole of the UK.
England is the only country where notes from other UK countries are generally not accepted. I generally put this down to ignorance of other notes rather than 'hate.'
In my experience most places in english cities and bigger towns generally have no issue with Scottish (or Northern Irish) notes. English people in more remote areas may generally only see English notes, and may be confused by a note they don't recognise. But if they know it is Scottish or Northern Irish and don't accept it I haven't really got an explanation for that. So I can see the annoyance and why this could be seen as 'hate.'
Aren't post offices supposed to be obliged to take all UK notes by law? I could be wrong here, but I thought that they were.
Another Reason for Scottish independence and breaking up the horrible United Kingdom.
"Scottish currency isn't considered legal tender in England but is widely accepted."
Scottish money isn't legal tender in Scotland, either. So it would have been more correct to say UK instead of England.
No it wouldny though cause we literally use Scottish notes up here every time we go shopping and it’s always accepted it’s more of an English thing
It is legal tender in England. Both northern irish and scottish notes are legal tender here in England but they tend to be refused in fear of counterfeits.
Post offices have no excuse and should be able to test the note for authenticity.
I wouldn't call it racism or a hate crime its just ignorance. I worked in Morrisons and we had a machine that tests all UK notes for authentication so we did accept both scottish and northern irish pounds aslong as the machine accepted them. If the machine rejected any notes English, Scottish or Northern Irish it was counterfeit.
@@paulw314 it's not ignorance. Scottish and Northern Irish banknotes are NOT legal tender anywhere, not even in Scotland and Northern Ireland (its one of the great urban myths that they are)! Even Bank of England banknotes are NOT legal tender in Scotland! But the question of legal tender doesn't even matter anyway in this context. Any shop has every right to refuse a banknote on a point of sale transaction, legal tender or not, anywhere in the UK.
Why 'refused in fear of counterfeits' there hasn't been any big counterfeiting of Scottish/N Irish notes for decades that I've heard about?
@@matttyrer9096 Yes , but the question here is why would they do this? In that case if it is not ignorance is it 'hate?'
Most people don't really know what 'legal tender' is or means. They think in means' legal currency for that country.'
Arguing 'legal tender' or 'legal currency' is just semantics to some people.
I know technically it's not, but then 'legal Tender' has nothing to do with spending valid UK notes at retail outlets in any case.
So what they are calling it is largely irrelevant, people know what they mean either way.
Shit is mental in Kent
Try spending a Northern Irish note in Scotland. You get the same reaction. It's lack of familiarity.
We take them no problem, any other retail place I have worked has too.
This is nothing new, I went to Bridlington on holiday for years and shops would never ever accept Scottish notes, surprisingly not even a UK charity shop !!!! In my local bank there are 2 ATM machines one gives Scottish notes and the other gives English notes 🤷♀️🤷♀️
I'm scottish and live 2 mins from here.... I just use them for petrol they can then refuse but petrol in my car.
Clydesdale Bank is now Virgin Money, so these will probably be replaced complete with a picture of Richard Branson instead of Rabbie Burns.
I wonder why Scottish notes are not acceptable
Had this once with northern irish notes in a pub ,funny tho i told the lanlord i had 3oo quid and we going to spend the lot he was more than happy to accept moot subject notes scottish and irish can be paid into uk bank.
Hate crime lol..
in Thailand scottish notes are only worth 70% when you use currency exchange against an english note, Clydesdale bank are only worth 50% value against english notes.
In birmingham new street station there illegal and transport police will get involved if you don't move away for the ticket booth and goto an ATM to withdraw english notes for you train ticket.
Easy jet also don't accept then flying form an english airport but will accept them flying form a scottish one. It's just the way it is. (late the abusive comments against the scottish begin)
I'm Scottish, no abuse from me, I totally understand that it's every business or shops perogative to refuse any note it wants to, they don't even have to accept your business, full stop.
That said, your grammar is fuckin awful.
I've never had a problem giving easyjet Scottish notes on flights from Gatwick. Another good reason not to go to Thailand. The clydsdale bit is crap
Which makes no sense because Scottish pounds are meant to 1-to-1 equal to the English pounds because they're technically the same exact currency.
Good on him! Of course nothing would happen though. Hate crimes that get followed are more things like calling a man sir when he has pink socks on and thinks he’s a woman.
I don't accept english notes in my change, works both ways
@trains and trams I know right, I'm an adult as well
@trains and trams I dinnae refuse them, paper/plastic notes are on the way oot - card payments aw the way noo
@stanley that was over a year ago Stanley, its aw aboot card payments noo
It's so stupid that retail banks issue their own notes.
A Bank of Britain with consistent notes across the whole country would have solved all problems. Instead allowing retail banks to issue allowed more possibility of counterfeits and petty local nationalism.
Or maybe English people learning that each Country in the uk has its OWN note design and there is fuck all wrong with that!
@@intouchdm I don't think any other country has retail banks issue bank notes. They are perfectly ok in Wales. Places on the edge of these islands are more insular and less diverse.
@@starrynight1657 it’s all sterling currency ie legal tender. No matter where in the uk it’s from a £10 note is a £10 note. Ignorance of this changes nothing. If you are stupid enough to turn away custom and money because of this then it’s you who is missing out.
this wont be a problem soon anyway as were fast becoming a cashless society and we pay everything via credit or debit card cheques have all but disappeared cash will do the same as we go into electronic payments
THATS LEGAL TENDER MATE!
No its not
@@indikafernando6267 go get some information pal! And then argue 😂😂
@@sonubhatti964 but they literally aren’t legal tender. Even in Scotland.
@@morbideddie who told you that buddy?........these are officially legal tender in the Scotland and hundred percent acceptable..... However majority of the British people dont recognize this currency that's why they consider it a fantasy bank note..... I'm bank notes collector myself and I have banknotes almost from all the world...... I have spent some many years on researching on world paper money...... Apart from that.........there are three banks in Scotland who issue Bank notes and every bank has its own design. I'm gonna give you the list of banks in all over UK and you could Google them by yourself
1. Bank of England
2. Bank of Scotland
3. Royal Bank of Scotland
4. Clydesdale bank
5. Ulster bank
6. Bank of Ireland
7. Danske bank
8. Bank of Northern Ireland.
@@sonubhatti964 the Bank of England told me. Scottish notes aren’t legal tender according to any source I can find. I don’t think you can post like but the Bank of England site states “Scottish notes aren’t legal tender in England or Scotland”.
Can you provide a quote from a reliable source stating they are legal tender?
scottish notes are easy to forge im told
What a load of crap. Why would it be any easier to forge a Scottish note than an english one.