Many are puzzled by the lack of adjustable options and no auto-noise cancel on the Vortex. For a new detector in 2024 it just seems like there have been some odd omissions, especially given what is out there now for the same money or less. However, it all comes down to performance. Does it do what they say it can do and does it do a better job than its competition? All questions waiting to be answered. I have some reservations but I believe in testing something yourself before passing judgment. If it works for me that is the only thing that matters 👍
Lots of people who haven't had their hands on these new Garretts dumping on them and they say they are experts,yeh .Nice to see a bit of honesty,look forward to your video on it😊
No coins, no gold, stainless steel, tungsten carbide, nothing to find, but WE HAVE DOZENS OF DETECTORS TO BUY, LOL. I Enjoyed your video so just having some fun. Been detecting since 1973 and it’s getting really hard to find anything but zinc pennies and junk jewelry along with tons of trash, no shortages there!
I actually think the company known as quest metal detectors is a hidden gem i know they had multi frequency models they released and from what i gathered they have an emi issue and the company is taking a while to get it sorted out idk i know i have a quest x10 and i think its one kd the best coin machines ive used it wasnt as built as the simplex but super light weight and it had its own version of full tones that i thought was its best property id like to see them take off in popularity in the states i know they have a dedicated following overseas
I'm not against the pay to upgrade model. I've had 2 machines that I would have liked to be able to pay to upgrade. The F22 did not come with the ability to ground balance but the F44 had it in the software and the ORX did not have iron audio volume like the Deus. I would have paid a small fee for a special release to upgrade those two machines. Coins are getting harder to find in the Midwest as well. Especially on the Tot-Lots over the last 5-10 years kids just don't carry change around like they used to. I'm tempted to buy the VX9 when it comes out I also like simple and one of my favorite machines was very simple to operate the MX5 by Whites. I've been swinging the Legend and it's not what I would call a "simple" machine not as complex as the Etrac or V3i but still lots of submenus, icons, and hidden features that I find myself looking at the manual in the field more often than I would like.
Before investing in any one level of Vortex it could help to readup on each and only then decide a model that matches your needs! I'm a loyal to Garrett and will definitely look forward to your review Indiana!
Theres so many off brand detectors on amazon that have the same at pro style coil as on the vortex why they wouldnt use a new coil maybe to disassociate it from the older machines idk also the tones sounded loud and clear but they just sounded like something from an older era of detecting
The Vortex is what the Apex should have been. It's got everything that we were disappointed with when the Apex launched (and hey I like my Apex on the beach). The 3 levels of it can replace everything from the Ace 400, the Apex, to all the AT's, they could cut their line down to this. But they wont, because people will still buy the others. I wish the Manticore had 15 hours of battery life. I think its great that the upgrades are software unlocks, so all those people who for irrational reasons bought each step of the Ace as if those were real upgrades - can get real upgrades without creating a bunch of e-waste on the way. Ya so many fewer coins, I spent 7.5 hours at a beach yesterday here in Vancouver. Found $7.50. 1 buck an hour ... and 3 of the coins were Twoonies. Fortunately I also found a nice designer silver bracelet.
"The Vortex is what the Apex should have been. It's got everything that we were disappointed with when the Apex launched (and hey I like my Apex on the beach). " -- I fully agree. I like my Apex but with a few tweaks, i.e., recovery speed, more stable target ID, it could be much better. I don't have a need for water proof enclosure, but I know others do. In one of the Garrett instructional videos, the female speaker touts "upgrade and update ability"...but Garrett has to "upgrade-update" the code, others can't; hence, so far no product improvement. Hasn't been an update since April of 2021(Garrett website says Nov. 2021, but its the same update as released in April of 2021). Heck, I might even agree to pay for an upgrade-update if they would issue one. Like that which is what they want to do with the Vortex. It also seems odd that the Vortex VX5 variant has a few less "detection" features than the Apex, but it is priced higher than that of the Apex. I guess you have to buy new to get the updated unit with the waterproof case. Also makes one wonder if the Apex along with the others you mentioned will get axe'd. 🤔
If you are going to pay for it, why not get the low end model to start to provide a review and then update . it doesn't appear to cost more taking that approach if you want to see how it performs on the low and higher ends with the various features allowed to be enabled.
Finding "buried treasure" takes a little luck, skill and a good detector. Garrett gear is good quality stuff and I can't wait to test out the new Vortex.
I heard one being used & to me it sounded like the AT- Max I'm not being negative I like my AT- Max but my Deus 2 is the king, If you have the king of Detectors its hard to compare anything else, Keep rating new detectors my friend
I totally agree with your coin assessment. I find lots of coins on my channel, but from what I am hearing around the community, it ain't like it used to be lol
The downloadable upgrades make sense, they only need one production run to sell three different machines, but as a consumer it rubs me a bit of the wrong way, like my machine COULD be better, but it isnt due to a programming lock, theres a website called defective by design, and i feel this metal detector qualifies to be listed on that website
So if you bought the nokta score would you feel the same way? Your detector is locked at a low level ? Now you want to upgrade to the double score. Then you know it's capable of more because now there is a triple score. Seriously take a look. It's all the same hardware! Same with the xterra pro and elite vs the equinox detectors. It's all the same hardware. That's why the coils are all interchangeable... Where do you think the cost of a metal detector comes from? The hardware is cheap. It probably costs a fraction of the overall price. The real cost of a metal detector comes fun the research and development to create the features and programs that customers want and are willing to pay for. So how is it so bad to be asked to pay for the options you want? Oh wait you would rather buy another 4 to 500 dollar metal detector.
@@MD-NWWI you make some good points, but one advantage to having separate detectors is you could keep the old one as a spare, or a lender, or you could sell it to make some money back, my legend speaker just broke, and lucky I have a deus I could use in the meantime while the shop is repairing my legend But I do agree that having 3 sinplexes, 4 equinoxes, 3 scores is kinda crazy, the Xterra I will give a pass too because they came out so far from each other, and it has MF and such, it's like a different detector I was pissed FOR the people who bought a double score, because they probably would have got the triple score if they all came out at the same time But the triple score is kinda like downgraded legend, I don't really see much of a diference
@digginggopher absolutely it never hurts to have a spare detector. I'm just looking at the future with the Vortex. If they come out with vx11 or 20 I already have the hardware and just need to pay for the upgrade. The xterra pro and elite are exactly the same inside. In fact that's how the xterra pro worked so well in the beach. Beach mode is actually multi frequency. They just won't admit it.
Not enough difference in price among the 3 levels. I think a big majority who will order this detector will just go with the 9. And, echoing what others have said, all these detectors work if you learn how to use them well and employ good searching techniques. I just hope Garrett isn’t releasing the Vortex too early like they did with the Apex, which got lots of bad reviews early, then they pushed out an updated software version to get rid of the bugs and make it way better.
Indian Tones My friend, I heard you say you want to buy the whole kit and everything right away. Well if you have that money to do it then I would start with the low end and upgrade so we can see it all. Just starting with the High end on will not give enough info for how the other two Do.. Just a thought Man, I Agree the coins are not so abundant as the yrs have gone on. fresh drops do not come easy.. Happy Hunting. Peace
Thanks for the video 👌🏼In my opinion, the nail test was not impressive at all when you use brand new nails from the hardware store. Anyone who has been Metal detecting a long time, knows that the very old rusty square nails are the ones that false. We can judge it based on the features that it has which allows it to perform better or worse compared to the competition. Tmachine is $599 plus you have to buy the headphones separate. So you’re going to be spending over $700. It is really lacking in features that help the performance of the detector. I’m not impressed with the features at all! Was hoping for a modern platform.
I strictly detect for gold in the western states....been running the garrett axiom the past 2 years and I put down my sdc2300 and rarly run my gpz7000.
It's just an apex mk2... Was expecting a higher end machine to compete with the D2 and Manticore. Garrett just don't have a clue anymore.. In my club they are seen as a joke
Garrett has been reeling apparently with the critisim received on specs after the debut. I can only imagine they are scrambling to address some of the feature shortcomings… BTW Lou, are you related to Tony of "Uncle Tony's Garage" fame???
Good Afternoon lou good to see you Back 👋 Great Video enjoy your day buddy! Indeed lou people are using more plastic cards and less coins are dropped. And Now there are more detectourist then ever before 🤔 This machine looks very impressive 👏
@IndianaTones I had just started my youtube channel when my car broke down in February, and I haven't gotten back into detecting consistently yet. I'm looking forward to actually seeing the Vortex after it's released. I love Garrett, but I still don't see them really catching up at all, this machine seems like it's 5 year old stuff.
I’m guilty of it too. Where I live everything changed. Parking meters you can pay with a card or an app. Ez pass replaced tolls, no one uses coins in Atlantic City etc
Garrettt promised new technology and it is just a variation of what everyone else already has. The 3 bar screen- even the lower end Minelab and Nokta have a ferrous bar and non ferrous bar that lets you see if the target is one or the other or mixture of both. And you get headphones and additional coils all at a less price while the Vortex has...just the machine so add another 250-300 dollars onto it to have the same. What Garrett is touting is just techno babble to disguise they have no new advancements compared to the other companies.
Don,t be like callabash use it before you bash it . Also so many ppl dont take the time to really learn there machine . I,m still using a T2 ,and it does great in iron trash . Thats because I know how to use it , 13 years of use . As soon as a new model comes out ppl are all over it . either they sell it quick because its abit complicated or if they find a diamond ring it's because of the new amazing machine . I've been on hunts watching guys use there minelab 800 and having no clue what they are digging . Again machines are getting abit complicated .
Yes, it is very disappointing. Garrett did not put a good unit out with one unit have to buy several different units. I have not read no good views about it.
I’m sorry, I’m usually a wait and see guy, but after 15 years of AT Pro, and the other 10 versions with different names-this thing isn’t t even entry level! I’m not even basing it on what it does claim to have, more so on what it already doesn’t! Headphones-Tones-WiFi-and paying for software upgrades? (The hardware has to already be on the machine) 🙄 This is an attempt at a mid-tier cash grab! If I’m gonna gamble on $700 it won’t be on THAT! 😂
I know the Legend is a good machine but I don’t like how hard it is to navigate. It looks like this is very easy to navigate the menu.
Would have liked to see the buttons illuminate also at night
Seems like nobody wants to do a Depth test and nail board test Either......wonder Why 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I’ll do one stay tuned
Many are puzzled by the lack of adjustable options and no auto-noise cancel on the Vortex. For a new detector in 2024 it just seems like there have been some odd omissions, especially given what is out there now for the same money or less. However, it all comes down to performance. Does it do what they say it can do and does it do a better job than its competition? All questions waiting to be answered. I have some reservations but I believe in testing something yourself before passing judgment. If it works for me that is the only thing that matters 👍
True. We shall see
Well said Lou, the detectors with the high prices are not the best if you don’t understand and use the features properly 👋😁
Thanks pal
Lots of people who haven't had their hands on these new Garretts dumping on them and they say they are experts,yeh .Nice to see a bit of honesty,look forward to your video on it😊
Thank you Russ
No coins, no gold, stainless steel, tungsten carbide, nothing to find, but WE HAVE DOZENS OF DETECTORS TO BUY, LOL. I Enjoyed your video so just having some fun. Been detecting since 1973 and it’s getting really hard to find anything but zinc pennies and junk jewelry along with tons of trash, no shortages there!
I actually think the company known as quest metal detectors is a hidden gem i know they had multi frequency models they released and from what i gathered they have an emi issue and the company is taking a while to get it sorted out idk i know i have a quest x10 and i think its one kd the best coin machines ive used it wasnt as built as the simplex but super light weight and it had its own version of full tones that i thought was its best property id like to see them take off in popularity in the states i know they have a dedicated following overseas
Oh man I wanted to get that one. Looked like a nice machine
@@IndianaTones its either a ground balance or emi issue its a shame too there multi band covered even more then the nox and the legend up to 80hz
@@IndianaTones th-cam.com/users/shorts3FgjbwnMORQ?si=ibGuN-r_SCjfySb4
I decided to just keep using my nox 800 until it is broken and not working. Don't plan to get something else and be done with the hobby.
I'm not against the pay to upgrade model. I've had 2 machines that I would have liked to be able to pay to upgrade. The F22 did not come with the ability to ground balance but the F44 had it in the software and the ORX did not have iron audio volume like the Deus. I would have paid a small fee for a special release to upgrade those two machines. Coins are getting harder to find in the Midwest as well. Especially on the Tot-Lots over the last 5-10 years kids just don't carry change around like they used to. I'm tempted to buy the VX9 when it comes out I also like simple and one of my favorite machines was very simple to operate the MX5 by Whites. I've been swinging the Legend and it's not what I would call a "simple" machine not as complex as the Etrac or V3i but still lots of submenus, icons, and hidden features that I find myself looking at the manual in the field more often than I would like.
Before investing in any one level of Vortex it could help to readup on each and only then decide a model that matches your needs! I'm a loyal to Garrett and will definitely look forward to your review Indiana!
Thank you
It's ridiculous that the VX5 doesn't even have wireless enabled. No auto ground balance or vibrating handle either.
Theres so many off brand detectors on amazon that have the same at pro style coil as on the vortex why they wouldnt use a new coil maybe to disassociate it from the older machines idk also the tones sounded loud and clear but they just sounded like something from an older era of detecting
Here in Connecticut coins are also getting less as well as jewelry . And jewelry on the beach that looks expensive but are cheap Chiba plated
Hi Lou , good to see you back. I'm off to the beach and will watch later. It will be interesting to see what they have.
Thank you
The Vortex is what the Apex should have been. It's got everything that we were disappointed with when the Apex launched (and hey I like my Apex on the beach). The 3 levels of it can replace everything from the Ace 400, the Apex, to all the AT's, they could cut their line down to this. But they wont, because people will still buy the others. I wish the Manticore had 15 hours of battery life. I think its great that the upgrades are software unlocks, so all those people who for irrational reasons bought each step of the Ace as if those were real upgrades - can get real upgrades without creating a bunch of e-waste on the way.
Ya so many fewer coins, I spent 7.5 hours at a beach yesterday here in Vancouver. Found $7.50. 1 buck an hour ... and 3 of the coins were Twoonies. Fortunately I also found a nice designer silver bracelet.
"The Vortex is what the Apex should have been. It's got everything that we were disappointed with when the Apex launched (and hey I like my Apex on the beach). " -- I fully agree. I like my Apex but with a few tweaks, i.e., recovery speed, more stable target ID, it could be much better. I don't have a need for water proof enclosure, but I know others do. In one of the Garrett instructional videos, the female speaker touts "upgrade and update ability"...but Garrett has to "upgrade-update" the code, others can't; hence, so far no product improvement. Hasn't been an update since April of 2021(Garrett website says Nov. 2021, but its the same update as released in April of 2021). Heck, I might even agree to pay for an upgrade-update if they would issue one. Like that which is what they want to do with the Vortex. It also seems odd that the Vortex VX5 variant has a few less "detection" features than the Apex, but it is priced higher than that of the Apex. I guess you have to buy new to get the updated unit with the waterproof case. Also makes one wonder if the Apex along with the others you mentioned will get axe'd. 🤔
Good to see you back Lou!!!! looking forward to see your testing of the Vortex!!!
Welcome paparous!
I would like to test one out. I’ve always liked Garrett. My AT pro really got the job done when I first started.
If you are going to pay for it, why not get the low end model to start to provide a review and then update . it doesn't appear to cost more taking that approach if you want to see how it performs on the low and higher ends with the various features allowed to be enabled.
I think you’re right I will do that!
Agreed and then you can show how it is to update
the Low end one does not have a beach mode though.
@@peterbicker8389 Ill try it there without it to show how it works.
no headphones with it so its a 700 + detector cant see it competing with the legend deus 2 master or the nox700 time will tell
Finding "buried treasure" takes a little luck, skill and a good detector. Garrett gear is good quality stuff and I can't wait to test out the new Vortex.
Good luck pal!
I heard one being used & to me it sounded like the AT- Max I'm not being negative I like my AT- Max but my Deus 2 is the king, If you have the king of Detectors its hard to compare anything else, Keep rating new detectors my friend
Looking forward to an honest review of the new Garrett.
Thanks pal
I totally agree with your coin assessment. I find lots of coins on my channel, but from what I am hearing around the community, it ain't like it used to be lol
Welcome back Lou.. missed you. I'm waiting for a real test and review of the vortex.
Thank you
Glad to see you back Lou. Look forward to your videos again.
The downloadable upgrades make sense, they only need one production run to sell three different machines, but as a consumer it rubs me a bit of the wrong way, like my machine COULD be better, but it isnt due to a programming lock, theres a website called defective by design, and i feel this metal detector qualifies to be listed on that website
So if you bought the nokta score would you feel the same way? Your detector is locked at a low level ? Now you want to upgrade to the double score. Then you know it's capable of more because now there is a triple score.
Seriously take a look. It's all the same hardware! Same with the xterra pro and elite vs the equinox detectors. It's all the same hardware. That's why the coils are all interchangeable...
Where do you think the cost of a metal detector comes from? The hardware is cheap. It probably costs a fraction of the overall price. The real cost of a metal detector comes fun the research and development to create the features and programs that customers want and are willing to pay for.
So how is it so bad to be asked to pay for the options you want? Oh wait you would rather buy another 4 to 500 dollar metal detector.
@@MD-NWWI you make some good points, but one advantage to having separate detectors is you could keep the old one as a spare, or a lender, or you could sell it to make some money back, my legend speaker just broke, and lucky I have a deus I could use in the meantime while the shop is repairing my legend
But I do agree that having 3 sinplexes, 4 equinoxes, 3 scores is kinda crazy, the Xterra I will give a pass too because they came out so far from each other, and it has MF and such, it's like a different detector
I was pissed FOR the people who bought a double score, because they probably would have got the triple score if they all came out at the same time
But the triple score is kinda like downgraded legend, I don't really see much of a diference
@digginggopher absolutely it never hurts to have a spare detector. I'm just looking at the future with the Vortex. If they come out with vx11 or 20 I already have the hardware and just need to pay for the upgrade.
The xterra pro and elite are exactly the same inside. In fact that's how the xterra pro worked so well in the beach. Beach mode is actually multi frequency. They just won't admit it.
Not enough difference in price among the 3 levels. I think a big majority who will order this detector will just go with the 9. And, echoing what others have said, all these detectors work if you learn how to use them well and employ good searching techniques. I just hope Garrett isn’t releasing the Vortex too early like they did with the Apex, which got lots of bad reviews early, then they pushed out an updated software version to get rid of the bugs and make it way better.
@@barry4fish19 it's not restricted to Garret, both the deus 2 and the legend were released before they had good updates
Do we know how much it weighs compared to AT Pro/AT Max?
Garrett Vortex: 2.9 lbs. without coil cover; 3.05 lbs. with cover installed
Garrett AT Pro & Max: 3.03 lbs.
Source: Garrett Metal Detectors
Darn, was hoping it was lighter
Indian Tones My friend, I heard you say you want to buy the whole kit and everything right away. Well if you have that money to do it then I would start with the low end and upgrade so we can see it all. Just starting with the High end on will not give enough info for how the other two Do.. Just a thought Man, I Agree the coins are not so abundant as the yrs have gone on. fresh drops do not come easy.. Happy Hunting. Peace
Great idea will def do that
Thanks for the video 👌🏼In my opinion, the nail test was not impressive at all when you use brand new nails from the hardware store. Anyone who has been Metal detecting a long time, knows that the very old rusty square nails are the ones that false. We can judge it based on the features that it has which allows it to perform better or worse compared to the competition. Tmachine is $599 plus you have to buy the headphones separate. So you’re going to be spending over $700. It is really lacking in features that help the performance of the detector. I’m not impressed with the features at all! Was hoping for a modern platform.
I have seen nothing that makes me want to move on from my CTX.
Tones we have see if its Garrett does what say ! So see if good as they say (Garrett) Test and test again.
I strictly detect for gold in the western states....been running the garrett axiom the past 2 years and I put down my sdc2300 and rarly run my gpz7000.
Hey! Hey! glad to see you back cant wait to you out on the beaches.
Thanks pal
American garrett metal detector high quality like apple❤
Thanks Lou
Hi Tony!
Treasure Hunters unite. As there's already a $1 coin then petition the Gov to get rid of paper $1 and also start minting a $2 coin.
Great idea. Would love to find dollar coins often wouldn’t that be great
It's just an apex mk2...
Was expecting a higher end machine to compete with the D2 and Manticore. Garrett just don't have a clue anymore.. In my club they are seen as a joke
Maybe they will come out with a more expensive one down the road?
Where is fisher first texas these days.
Garrett has been reeling apparently with the critisim received on specs after the debut. I can only imagine they are scrambling to address some of the feature shortcomings… BTW Lou, are you related to Tony of "Uncle Tony's Garage" fame???
I ran a poll on my channel and people want to see me try the Vortex, should I start with low, mid or top end? Hmmm🤔
I was born and raised on S.I. besides the beach where do you detect on the island ?
Mostly Jersey
Am Thinking about. The nexus
Good Afternoon lou good to see you Back 👋 Great Video enjoy your day buddy! Indeed lou people are using more plastic cards and less coins are dropped. And Now there are more detectourist then ever before 🤔 This machine looks very impressive 👏
And for that sir you should be commended 👍. Great info look forward to new list, (just went to a Manticore), so I hope it stays high up there 👆 😂
Totally disappointed in Garrett, I’ll stick with the almighty Minelab🍻
Well Garrett released the axiom 2 years ago and the Ace apex 4 years ago, so it not thru that they have not released a new metal detector in ages.
True felt like a long time to see another multi machine imo with all the other brands putting out others.
Been missing your videos!
Thank you im back!
@IndianaTones I had just started my youtube channel when my car broke down in February, and I haven't gotten back into detecting consistently yet. I'm looking forward to actually seeing the Vortex after it's released. I love Garrett, but I still don't see them really catching up at all, this machine seems like it's 5 year old stuff.
If you were launching a new machine would you not be showing videos of it smashing the coin in nails test and depth tests?
you find less coins because people just use their card not cash now days
I’m guilty of it too. Where I live everything changed. Parking meters you can pay with a card or an app. Ez pass replaced tolls, no one uses coins in Atlantic City etc
Garrettt promised new technology and it is just a variation of what everyone else already has. The 3 bar screen- even the lower end Minelab and Nokta have a ferrous bar and non ferrous bar that lets you see if the target is one or the other or mixture of both. And you get headphones and additional coils all at a less price while the Vortex has...just the machine so add another 250-300 dollars onto it to have the same. What Garrett is touting is just techno babble to disguise they have no new advancements compared to the other companies.
dang
Don,t be like callabash use it before you bash it . Also so many ppl dont take the time to really learn there machine . I,m still using a T2 ,and it does great in iron trash . Thats because I know how to use it , 13 years of use . As soon as a new model comes out ppl are all over it . either they sell it quick because its abit complicated or if they find a diamond ring it's because of the new amazing machine . I've been on hunts watching guys use there minelab 800 and having no clue what they are digging . Again machines are getting abit complicated .
Love Calabash
I’ll stick with Minelab
Just like the APEX...i think the vortex is overpriced for what you actually get.
Im sure its a great detector but definitely overpriced.
We shall see soon. Stay tuned
Not for this guy, too damn confusing
Yes, it is very disappointing. Garrett did not put a good unit out with one unit have to buy several different units. I have not read no good views about it.
great news. yo you look like adam sandler when I watch you on 144p
I’m sorry, I’m usually a wait and see guy, but after 15 years of AT Pro, and the other 10 versions with different names-this thing isn’t t even entry level! I’m not even basing it on what it does claim to have, more so on what it already doesn’t! Headphones-Tones-WiFi-and paying for software upgrades? (The hardware has to already be on the machine) 🙄
This is an attempt at a mid-tier cash grab!
If I’m gonna gamble on $700 it won’t be on THAT! 😂
I’ll take the sacrifice to show what it could do.
Made in murrrrica hell yeah and people instantly buy it no matter how bad it is
Minelab vanquish 540 beat vx crap all day long
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ummmm, what just happened?
You found the best metal detecting channel. Welcome
Ho ho ho I love my deus 11all the way From sunny Cornwall uk 😊
Finally
Good monring sir! Thank you
All seams to be a scam to get more money all of the detector brands low end brands or high end brands
HAHAHAHA another Garrett joke!