How I setup my Brake pedal for max performance !
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- Short travel stiff BRAKE or Long travel softer is the the best for simracing and our muscle memory ? I have tested those two options for few years and here is what i found works best for me !
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oh man i love how you enjoy your caffe and add that chill vibe to your videos during your creative phase.
Thx bro 🤗
After purchasing the VRS pedals, I kept the suggested stiff red spring that everyone says to use. After 6 months I decided to try the lighter blue spring, it made all the difference for me in trail braking and comfort. Much easier to trail brake and quickly get to 100%. Like you say, try everything for yourself and find something thats good for you.
Thx for the feedback Luke 🍻
Yeah the biggest con is that you can hit the bump stop with the blue spring. You don’t have to press the pedal like a Brontosaurus and mess up your joints lol. When hitting the bump stop it’s so easy to trailbrake imo. Especially because there is a spring that pushes back instead of rubbers.
I absolutely love the content on this channel. The studio and setup are gorgeous and there is serious knowledge, experience, and know-how here.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos. So calm and perfect execution.
Also just bought the ImSim Talento because of your video. Upgrading from Fanatec V3.
Thx Thomas ❤️
And those Imsim Talento will be probably the set of pedals you gonna bay ever ! I really love those 💪
Oh brother. Your videos are just so incredibly detailed and full of small little ideas that paint a wonderful picture in the whole bigger frame.
Please never stop sharing your passion. Much love and health as always for your and your family. See you at the expo ✌️
Much love brother 🤗
The support from you is always great boost for me 💨
The Expo is coming slowly indeed 😁
Super video, as usual. I agree totally, my old bones can't manage 160kg braking so my set up is very similar to yours, a bit of movement requiring less force. For me it's about feeling, when I can feel what the car is doing that builds confidence and results in quicker lap times.
Perfect video! I have had so many discussions with a buddy of mine over this very topic. Excellent explanation. Thanks!
Happy you liked it buddy 🤛
Thx for the support 🍻
why did this video seem like a motivational video!
Fantastic advice / Steering in the right direction! Amazing work man! thank you for your input!
i have recently been struggling to find my sweet spot after having my Heus for over 4 months, and i think with this advice, i can look further!
I love to hear you tweak and test brother 😁
You will nail it for sure 💪
I also have the Simagic P2000 brake set. I actually bought them from a video you made showing them. I really like them. Best bang 4 the buck in my humble experience. Thank you for your time and experience to share with us.
Those are indeed brutal for the price man 😃
Thx for the support buddy 🍻
Your timing is perfect I've been asking myself how to configure my brake for max performance all night.
same 😂👍
I completely agree with you. Always interesting to follow your advice. Thanks again.
Thx buddy, have a wonderful evening mate 🍻
Awesome video, absolutely on point, and I wish it came 3 weeks ago when I purchased P2000's (upgrade from Thrustmaster T-LCM's). After 2 weeks of mucking around with settings, 1-2 second slower lap times, and battling to understand why the 'experts' recommend harder brake pedal, I changed to yellow/blue springs, linear input curve, and backed off the max input value = Instant success!! 99% of my racing is in the V8 Supercar, which is literally driven with the pedals rather than the wheel. For that reason, the new pedals are awesome = super smooth and lots of control through the range.
The P2000 red yellow setup is bit hard indeed and sometimes after long drive with hardly reached 100% ones my leg get fatigue!
The V8 are as you’ve said pedal driven cars indeed and I love them so much ! I wish one day to find the time and master those cars !
Absolute respect for all V8 drivers 💪
Ultimate pro's here. Again your spot on. I tired up down and sideways and you have to make it livable while achieving control. Sometimes the best products require the most thought and trial. In the end there is nothing like it. Like life you have to work for it. Money can get you fancy things but persistence and the willingness to tinker over and over will bring you much more smiles per kilowatt.
Amin brother 🤛
Great video, like all things everyone is gonna be slightly different and testing what works best for you is the way to go. I do think running higher braking force does help since you’re increasing the dynamic range but also make sure you’re doing it to a comfortable limit to avoid injury like you said. At the end of the day we are doing this for fun, not to beat ourselves up haha.
Very well said 🍻
It’s all about personal preference as u said!! For me, I personally prefer a short travel and very heavy brake! I found that it’s very easy to lockup with soft/medium brake pressure especially with cars like the 992 cup car and others with no ABS. When I’m going top speed down a straight “I know it’s a sim and we don’t feel the forces” my instinct is to step hard on the brakes and with soft pedals I find it very difficult to apply enough brake to stop without locking up!
I know exactly what you mean , that’s the problem I have with the cup and the V8 and need at least 2-3 days to go close the good braking control 😁
I like a good amount of pedal travel, slightly soft pressure. I can reach threshold and trail brake much more accurately this way.
Great video, very informative, as always! 😃👍
That’s exactly what I found works for me after years of exploring myself!
Much more control in the entire and mid corner with little more travel and softer setting ! Those are very important parts of the braking and with the short hard pedal was really hard to be precise and consistent for few hours drive 😃
That’s exactly what I am trying to change on my fanatec csl lc pedals… more pedal travel. But I am not sure how I can do that. Should I remove one of the elastomers? Or buy a spring? Please help if possible!!! Thanks for the great tips always!!
@@joaomoretto I've replaced all original elastomers from the CSL LC with a "Progressive" elastomer from 3DRAP and the "Hard" spring from Race Sim Engineering Brake Tuning Kit (the kit comes with 1 soft and 1 hard spring). You could replace 1 of the original elastomers with a spring and get a similar feel with more travel (put the spring towards the pedal face plate and have remaining elastomer toward the load cell). Hope this helps 🙂
@@TexasGore thanks man! Helped a lot !! Unfortunately the brake kit from Race Sim is out of stock! I will wait to buy when it comes back
Very clear and informative video !
I use now Fanatec CSL elite loadcell. Not high end but it does the job.
I’m thinking to buy one day Heusinkveld Ultimates+.
Thx bro 🤛
I know this has been probably said already but what I really enjoy in your channel, you're not talking about "do this to achieve maximum performance!", you talk about, as your name implies, beyond matter. In my perspective instead of talking objective things that might help a few people saying that X pro uses this, you talk about the mentality, the physical performance, the attributes of each individual and adjusting your setup for you to be comfortable and at your best. It doesn't matter if you set your pedal to 25% force and set it at 11,3cm distance because "that's what professionals use" but rather you say "be mindful of your knees, your position in the seat, etc" which is of much more value.
All of this to say, my friend you inspire me and I bet you inspire many others on being the best drivers we can all be
Hey Pedro , thank you for the time you take to set that beautiful post brother 🤗
It means the world to me !
Great video as always
Thx buddy 🍻
Thank you very much for those tips!
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Great video as all ways best sim content on TH-cam bar none.
Thx for the support brother🤛
have a great weekend buddy 🍻
This was a great video because I had to switch from soft to hard since my Fanatec V3 on soft has a really bad sensor that started jumping. I have to stay with hard now but do enjoy a stiff brake now
Great to hear you found what works for you best buddy 🍻
I love this video as its good to express someone of your skill level to show its not all about the stiffest settings its about balance and experiment. I only have V3s but I haven't installed the BPK as I feel like since using them and my real car break I prefer some travel to help remember how much force I need. Love your content mate 👌🏾
Definately the bpk. It’s much more consistent. Just try the different combo’s.
I have the BPK and can honestly recommend it 100%. I would advise trying one red + green + orange sponge combo first. That's what I have in mine. I would prefer mine to be stiffer tbh. Also if you want more travel you can adjust the pedal itself. But if you're happy with your setup there's no need to think of anything else
@@pedrosilvamusician ill look into this maybe.. catn lie i keep peaking at Sprints but my bank acount makes me stop looking quite quickly
I tried several wheels and pedals and went up so many false avenues thanks for a considered look at the topic.
Such an awesome video, it deserves a lot more views as it is something that must be heard by more people. Good timing as well, got the Fanatec V3's and with the default setup and settings I couldn't trailbrake and was locking up. I 've heard about "hard brake pedals" but right now I feel like I need pedal travel to brake correctly so I was confused. Coming from the T3PA pedals and karting irl I feel like I need a decent amount of travel to have good brake control.
Thx buddy 🤛
I tried hard to learn hardest settings and every I come back to softer with travel it worked better for me 😃
It is not just about braking hard but we control the car as much with the wheel that much with the pedals as well everyone out there must find the perfect sweet spot for it self and not fall in that trap 🙈
@@chepilevski Very well said, agree 100% :)
Very good teacher you are 👍
Wow 😮 thanks for the support buddy ❤️
Always stuck with the quality of your videos! Thanks a lot for all the explanations everytime! Looking for new pedals set and coming from CSL elite i'm totally lost with all i see.. do you have some advices? BJ simracing, DC sim, heusinkveld sprint, imsim... too much choices..!!!!! hahaha if other guys can help i'm open to discuss! Thanks a lot again :)
this is so funny. I was making my brake padel harder and harder to push. I have Fanatec V3 with the hardest brake kit option and i set the pressure very high. But that made my leg hurt after long sessions. No i tuned it back a little bit and now i can drive for hours without problem. Still i have all the control i need. And those padels are not that expensive! But still i love them. I will keep them until they are broken or very old.
Wow you hurt your knee needing so much pressure on the brake pedal? Ouch! I'm glad you recovered. I know a normal car brake pedal isn't that hard. I'm glad you have analyzed how to keep yourself comfortable and to prevent injury using the brake pedal. You definitely need a way to keep yourself from moving backwards for sure. I'm only a hobby / doing sim racing for fun so I only have a stand. The big difference is the stand has a chair holder that prevents me from moving backwards when pressing on any of the pedals. Definitely a must have. Thanks for all of your tips and information. Always helps us beginners.
Yeh man ! It is stupid but I did that thinking I’m having better control and it turns I can have as good control with softer pedals too 🙈
Also watched Random Callsign's video on this, and I'm happy you guys spread this information around. In the end it's subjective and you are giving out good pointers, especially regarding fatigue and injury. I've spent alot of time finetuning my brake pedal, and in terms of performance I'm actually super satisfied, but after long sessions I find my foot to be in some pain. It's around 40-50kg on the pedal plate, feels great but I start to think it's not worth compromising health. The leavers on my Mountainbike's hydraulic system aren't heavy at all, but I still have got an amazing feeling. Food for thought, definitely! Also, choose the right shoes, too narrow of a shoe also caused pain for me, haha :D
Thank you buddy 🤛
I don’t know how that started with those super hard settings and we all fall into that trap 🤔
I watched the Random Callsign video and all the drivers had give such a great points 😃
@@chepilevski Some people stated that real racing cars have got heavy brakes with short travel, and everything else is not realistic. People adopted that, as well as the sim-pedal manufacturers jumped on to that thesis, offering pedals that could read 100+ kg on the plate. The majority of people in simracing want the most realistic feeling they can possibly get, me included. That worked out, like a self-reinforcing cycle. Now it seems we are starting to look beyond that theory :)
@@chepilevski that video was great. There was a mix of what the drivers prefer just like us sim racers. I liked how they explain that G force helps to put more force on the pedal, something we don’t have in our rigs. Well most of us ha.
Hey Mr. Legend how are you bro hope you're having fun as usual 😉 I agree with you 💯% I used the stiff setup on my Heusinkveld sprint and it killed my knee😔 then I went to the soft setup and bro the difference is day and night!!! More travel, accurate trail braking and reaching 100% of brake force when I need it is much easier!!! As usual very informative video 👍Stay safe and keep up the good work 👏 cheers 🍻
Everything goes well here brother and I hope you have great times as well 🍻
Happy to hear you found your personal sweet spot mate 💪
This helped me a lot. 👍🏾
Would be happy if was helpful mate 🤛
Thanks this video is helping me climb out of a bad sim racing burn out!
Oh , I know that feeling John 🙈
Take a rest and watch some nice movie and escape from the reality for a bit !
That’s how I try at least to fight the burnouts I have sometimes from different things in my life 🍻😃
@@chepilevski thanks my friend! Finally saved enough for a great rig have it for 2 months now super burnt out…. LoL we are silly beings
@@PixelGod240 we can’t feel joy all the time do we 😁
Wen I feel like that I try to appreciate it as I know at some point I will feel again excited 🤭
@@chepilevski thanks have a wonderful day
@@PixelGod240 enjoy your day too mate 🍻
Thx mate!
Your timing is always on point. I upgraded to Sprints two days ago and have been trying to get the best performance out of them. Amazing video as always man 👍
Oh and again can't wait for the moza review 😁
Great set. I started with mediums which is default setting, and now I changed to the short soft rubber bumper which is the second most stiff setting.
@@pato17racing ya I’m now on the hardest setting and it is a bit like a brick wall. I’ve had great success w that for months now but thinking to work back to mid softness. Fun to tinker ha.
Test and make sure you give a week at least for each setting bro ! At the end you will know exactly which settings will work for you personally 💪
The R9 video is coming probably next weekend as I do final tests now and will start working on it 😁
Super excited with that base man 💪💨
@@chepilevski right on good tip. I currently have a very consistent time around historic AMS2 Spielberg in BMW M1, using h pattern and all. It will be a good baseline for me to compare. Your reviews are top notch I’ll be tuning in :)
I feel the passion!!!!
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Another great vid! I hope the pedal cam from Lando Norris's McLaren also shows people we don't need stupidly heavy brakes with almost no movement. And you're right without G assist on the pedals sim racing doesn't need to replicate stupid stiff brakes, better to find the balance like you instruct.
I really tested that brick like pedal for months trying to convince myself will work but it never did for me and ones I soften it back I’ve got the control in the entry and mid corner ! Sometimes I lock tires easier but after practicing the same car for 2 days I have full control 😃
@@chepilevski I did the same after your video about pedal and seat position which helped a lot with my back pain (old injury). Going from super stiff to softer brakes I was getting faster, more consistent lap times, with better endurance and less back pain. With a heavy brake in sim racing all we're doing is shoving our spine into our seats, after a certain point the extra pressure ends up also putting force into our backs so some of that extra pressure goes to waste and just hurts our endurance. And now we're seeing real race cars and drivers who aren't using brick-like pedals, so going for a super heavy brake feel isn't even as realistic as people may have thought
Great information I have a 80 kg true break. It's hard my leg does Shake but I'm winning. Scared to change it but no pain buddy I believe.😍👍🇨🇦
😁 just be careful with your knee bro 😃
If there is no pain and you win no reason to change working formula 😁
Once again, your advice is spot on! I made the mistake of thinking that I needed to go to hydraulics to get the braking and throttle feel I wanted. What I ended up with was a brake pedal that barely moved and a throttle pedal that felt like a brake pedal. That's not what I want/need. Stiff brakes with a bit more travel and solid but springy throttle. The Im Sim Talentos are on my very short list. BTW, what pedals were you using that had the heel rest on the pedals? That seems like a pretty smart idea! Thanks for the outstanding content and advice!
Thx buddy! Stiff throttle sounds like nightmare man 🙈
The pedals bay the way are the SIMGRADE R7 buddy! Crazy pedals for sure 😁
Great vid. I’ve done all variety of setups on my Sprints. Currently success with hardest elastomer config w 60kg. Will try a known car track combo on slightly softer setup tomorrow as I’m interested to test again now! Tinkering is a fun part of the hobby!
Great to hear you are open to to test different settings Kevo 💪 that’s the way to take the maximum of yourself 🍻
@@chepilevski I refuse to drink light beer though cool? 😁 I’ll report back later! Cheers! 🍻
@@kevin_m would love to hear from you brother 🥃
@@chepilevski I only went to hardest possible setup because of the Invicta pedal hype (you must have hard pedal against disc pad feeling). Tonight I moved back to only slightly softer setup and shaved .5 second off my best time in ams2 @ Spielberg Historic w M1 Pro Car in just 1 hour test! I think better mid corner/trail brake feeling? Will continue test this week to see if consistent improvement. I have the new Sprint elastomer upgrade kit arriving tomorrow! So that’s a whole new thing to test!
@@kevin_m that’s awesome Kevo 😮
If you did that in an hour you have to test for few days till you see the real potential of that 😃
Happy to see you are open to test and find your best option plus the new elastomers you will have some work to do 😁
Great vid steli. Jason G.
Thx Jason 🍻
Hope you are doing well brother 😃
So, what peddles are you using today. I love how you over analyze and use the facts to make interesting. Love your channel.
I stuck with the Imsim Talento right now buddy 🤛
Thank you
2:44 wait what do I see 😂 your hands, I thought you must of been born with racing gloves hahaha.
Great content my friend.
Greetings from Australia 🇭🇲
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Best regards brother 🍻😁
FINALLY, someone that says how it is. This 100kg+ brake force for simulator propaganda is really getting out of hand. It's like the pedal makers don't have any other marketing tool.
Talking about real world driving while ignoring circumstances like G forces says everything you need to know. There is an interview with GT drivers elsewhere asking how they simrace and most talk about something in the range of 40bar for sims.
Thank you for talking about health! I can only imagine how many people have a poor seating position but set 80+kg super stiff brakes that will ruin their body.
Yeh man ,some people going nuts with the hard brake pedal without having any advantage from that and so many already complaining about pain in there knee 🙈
This is why you need pedals you can easily change this feeling...
I run Simtrecs and they do this great!
Absolutely agree with you , as much settings we can get that much closer we can get to our perfect personal performance 😃
nice video still learning the heusinkveld pro 3 ask you said it takes time to get better with loadcell paddles
It definitely need time buddy, your will get the max soon 🤛
I think it's safe to say that racecars have stiff brake pedals because if they didn't they would lock up easily because of all the weight of the driver shifting closer to it. A driver would adjust to be stiff as hell on the car for that reason, but on a sim you don't get lots of inertia (even if you had motion systems) and as such you need a softer brake to be more accurate while sim racing and hard pedals make it more difficult.
Can you please share some tips on how we can improve our pace in rally cross
Thanks again man, from setting position to finding everything in-between. Always count on you to deliver the goods. Grate content with well-needed info. Keep up the great work.
Thx Doneil 🤛
You always have something kind to say 🍻
Big hug buddy 🤗
@@chepilevski I try my best to spread happiness
yeah, setting pressure high to the point of knee injury is stupid. But I like having it high enough to where I'm not locking up the brakes when I panic in the heat of battle. Short travel, enough pressure for 80% braking in most cases works for me.
IRL, my miata wilwoods suffer from pad knockback after high G turns and I usually have to pump it once before the next turn. SIMS != IRL
I love having almost no movement to my brake pedal I like to use the muscle memory method it does work my lap times are very very consistent, and trail breaking for me is easier with a stiff break with hardly any movement that’s what I’m used to it basically no travel I’ve had my pedals setup like that for 2 years now I don’t like a LMG travel brake too hard to trail brake imo but everyone drives different with different driving styles
as always a fab and informative video.
I went about it a slightly different way round. I f*$cked my knee up. Then I tried to adjust. 🤣🤣
It was actually one of the biggest hurdles me getting back in the rig ( other than ACTIUALLY getting in ) - the pedals were too much for the injury to cope with . So I dialed it all down.
It allowed me to drive - but I am still not inclined to turn it back up... Liking the slightly softer
I also put a set of sim3d vibration motors on... they are very good and very informative.
Do you ever right foot brake? I do a lot and i find softer means you are more aware and consistent with the different forces required for each pedal - again building that muscle memory not to stamp....
take care bro
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Yeh, I know for your injury bro but honestly from my perspective even if I have very soft brake wen ones I master the car I’m absolutely fine controlling it ! Wen I deal with new car particularly without ABS then I struggle a bit till I master the car again in few months and drive without stress!
I honestly never use my right leg and every time I touch the brake with the right it feels like brick even wen is soft for the left foot 🤣
@@chepilevski Sorry - ... a brain typo 🙄🙄 we are talking LEFT foot braking It would be a fab video exploring the benefits of left foot braking ( or not ) . .. i was taught by a rally driver years ago and it completely changed my perspective as to what a brake can do regarding simultaneous power and brake input . sure it does require a complete internal ' rewire' - that is why most people don't do it ... it is like learning to rub you stomach & pat your head - and also TOTALLY contrary to what road driving teaches you . If you persist past the few crisis / drama clutch brakes.. it is fab... a ballet
personally it was amazing as i was recovering to able to naturally brake with my left foot as my right could not have done so at the time ..
I would love to see the video you would make about the possible transition to explore R to L braking and your approach to the 'rewire' needed
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as a rule of thumb the more road going is the car the longer the pedal movement (which makes it feel softer), the more racing car all the way to F1 the shorter the pedal travel.
He explained it perfectly but let metry to summarize what I understood: In road going cars such as the MX5 you will not gain as much time by going earlier to 100% brake force than by manipulating the weight transfer accurately. The more high power / downforce car more gains are to be had by reaching maximum braking force faster, weight transfer manipulation doesn't gain you as much time anymore in comparison
You said it so much better and cleaner then me !
That’s exactly how it goes , the high downforce cars don’t need weight transfer manipulation but accurate fast and precise braking then just smash the throttle on the exit and try to gain as much downforce as you can ! Great setup helps the rotation of the car and there is almost no time to play with the chase at all !
With the road cars we have to help the car rotate around the corner manipulating the weight transfer!
I personally prefer medium long travel to still make the push and lift off the pedal quick enough to make the car more responsive!
@@chepilevski ah the preferences reminiscent traits of rally driving. Very hard to change these traits once they're hardwired. Same goes for me
@@christoforospaphitis4090 So true 😁
Don't fuck up your knee, most important information in the video!
I have the V3 and I tried every combination, those pedals are only good with the stiffest brake, Almost no movement. The way you calibrate them is the most important, I try to calibrate the most I will ever use in the driver, but then i recalibrate the brake in game setting. That way, I always have a baseline that I can modulate per game setting.
@Race Beyond Matter. Not sure if your aware of this but I see you put the yellow spring on first then the harder one but that is the wrong way so Simagic told me.
Because it uses a pull rod the first spring that comes together is the last spring you put on then as you max that out then the harder spring should compress so the first spring.
I noticed your yellow is on first and then red so thought I'd mention it. I had to ask them because I took them off and wasn't sure which way too put them but the explanation they gave saying its a pull rode makes sense. If the rod was pushing then yes but it pulls so thought I'd mention it.
If you Google the simagic pedals you will see they have the red one on first then the yellow. Hope it helps as it maybe why your knee got bad so fast because your going from a hard spring then soft as in backwards
Ah yeh, I did that mistake wen I swapped to test all the springs but I fixed it and it makes difference indeed bro 😃
@@chepilevski cool Bro. Have a good day mate
I think the most important part is knowing when you reach 100% brake input. If you are a above average strong person and you can easaly press for example 120 kg, you will have a hard time on HE Sprints because it's hard to know when you press maximum input. In ACC this is important because if you want to start trailbraking you NEED to know where 100% input is. I had Sprints for a year and couldnt get consistent with them. Now i bought VRS and because the LC is bigger i can feel where the "end" of the travel is. Now i know when i press 100% input and can start easing of the brakes a lot easier.
Well said buddy 🤛
And I know exactly what you mean for ACC braking 😃
Hello NickyB.
I currently have the V3 from Fanatec and am considering buying the Sprints. I'm not very strong and don't really need more brake pressure than maybe anything between 40-60 kg, but thought the Sprints might help me with trailbraking. Do the Sprints have no end stop or something that feels like it? I hope you know what I mean.
Maybe you can tell me if the change is worth it.
@@Noeln83 hi. They don’t have a bump stop. Sprints are descent but imo only if you don’t max them out. VRS is better in pretty much every way. They do have a bump stop as well. The way I set them up now is with the blue spring so that I can hit the bump stop pretty comfortably. This way I know when I hit 100% braking and can start trailbraking from exactly max braking input. I’m not invested in them btw ;). Just my fair 2 cents.
@@Jeckaa84 Thx for the quick answer. Then I think about it again. V3´s are still good.
Hey, thanks for all your great contents! I am not an expert, just start 1 years ago. You speak about kilo measurements in the video, i don't understand how can i measure my pedals brake force in kilos? I just bought a p1000 which will arrive tomorrow!
Hey buddy, don’t overthink that aspect of the settings and just try to find what suits you the best!
I personally prefer 2 to 2.5cm movement of the pedals with progressive feeling and the stiffness is irrelevant as long as it feels comfortable to you 👍
@@chepilevski I was just curious to understand how is the process to measure the pedal. Is a thing a never did before. Before order p1000 I used a call load pedal which was stiff like a brick so I took out 2 of the 4 elastomers and i add an aftermarket spring. It has the perfect stiffness now so I would try to replicate it to p1000
Ergonomics wise. What’s the better leg angle towards the pedals? Bent legs or more of a straight leg?
For my test I prefer bit open leg 🦵 exactly as is on that meme I send ! Not sure for the exact angle but if is too bend I start using my ankle and then my muscles fatigue more and leg shakes from my knee!
Personally I use around 50-60kg max pressure and around 30-40mm of travel. Im almost 50 and been at it a very long time, also my body isn't what it used to be. That being said you also don't need the best high end pedals to be proficient, just being able to understand and translate your understanding of what the cars needs is enough. A cheap CSL elite load cell will be just as good as any other very expensive pedal with time and practice.
Absolutely agree with you Michael! Understanding the algorithm you can be fast with Logitech pedals as well if you know how to use the forces of the car and use them 🍻
@michael stuart how do I find my ideal max kg? I mean how do you know what kg force you have set. Thanks
@@Simlife101 very subjective. Physically I get sciatica if I have a pedal thats too heavy. I think you need a pressure that you can achieve comfortably, it should not be a struggle to hit every time, because you will be hitting it almost every stop then bleeding the pressure off to the apex.
I think many problems with the knee or hip come from an awkward placement of the pedal (plus too high forces of course)
I prefer to have the brake pedal further left (almost at the usual clutch position)
The leg should be pretty straight imo
You are absolutely right!
The placement is the most important part for sure! I also have the brake pedal as you said exactly straight to my left feet !
I'm half with you and half against you... I like the realism of a stiff pedal and the fact that I can use high friction pads without worrying about locking up. But like you it's easier to break precise if you use less pressure. Here's my example in iRacing. Higher friction pads or smaller brake master cylinder so I can outbreak everybody and I use high pedal pressure also. But to get more precise breaking I add in some brake Force Factor so that if I'm using 50% pedal or less it's easy to modulate. Give it a try you will love it.
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Welche Pedale würdest du für einen Kauf empfehlen?
hy guy thank you for sharing all thé tips. i have question, actually u prefer vr or triple screen ?
I personally prefer VR buddy! If I had single choice would definitely be the VR for me 😃
@@chepilevski i got triple 32 but these days am on vr, and even we loose some graphics quality it's still amazing. unfortunately i can't play Acc any more cause it's badly optimised.
@@gadirigadiri2763 ACC sucks man , the optimization is really bad for VR
honestly the brake force also depends on how you sit, legs down= easier to reach higher brake pressure, I personally sit in a hybrid position use heusinkvelds with 80 kgs and I still find It to be good
That’s very true indeed 🤛
What do you think about heels rest plate ?
Is it better to use one (set close to the pedals) or better to not have one and let the heel push on the base of the pedal ?
I’m not sure if I understand exactly your question buddy but if you mean just for the extra plates most companies do for there pedals that just put the feet high and help people with small feet! The movement reminds the same and the heal still slide wen we press!
If you invert the pedal upside down then the heal remain stable which is much more comfortable!
If you mean about those pedals I used ( SIMGRADE R7) with the moving heal plate with the pedals together I would say the throttle control is great but not great for the brake which is hard and we actually detach the heal every time we brake hard from the plate !
@@chepilevski Actually, I was refering more to the edge that you have on those plates (and not the height).
Is it better (efficiency, pain ...) to rest the heel on this edge or directly on the pedal without this edge ?
finally my first day with load cell pedals today, I mounted it on my rig and started lapping, I knew what was coming but the real experience is priceless, definitely a learning curve but don't want to get negative habits, so my question is about the technique: I am curious to learn if I must be putting my heel on the base plate while braking which is hard at the moment for me or viceversa, am I totally free to raise my left foot and put it on the brake pedal which looks comfy at the moment for a rookie like me. Or the breaking is combination of both ways depending on the situation? appreciate your comments on that
It is combination really.
When you press to max you will de touch your heal for sure but in light braking your heal will be the support point to modulate 🤛
It will take some time to get used to those because of the learning curve but eventually you will become better 🤛
@@chepilevski thanks a lot for the comment, I believe its important not to get a bad habit and try a lot to change it later 👌
Hey buddy, I just can’t take it anymore... I have to ask... Do you edit your own videos? They are simply incredible 👏
Hi buddy 🤛
Thx for the support mate 🍻
I edit the video and sometimes it takes ages to finish them 🙈
@@chepilevski That’s impressive buddy 👏 You have a really good eye for recording and implementing b-roll footage into your videos. It looks professionally done.
Are you self-taught, or do you have some type of formal training in video production? 🤔
@@ProSimRacing thx buddy ❤️
I just watched tons of videos for cinematography and some great TH-cam channels about editing!
Still far from what I really want to achieve but I’m learning with every next video 😃
@@chepilevski Dude, you are an inspiration to micro channels like myself, You are definitely in my top-3 when it comes to cinematography in our Sim Racing niche. I can only hope to be as good as you some day. As Sean Cannell always says, "just try to get 1% better with every upload". Keep up the great work my friend, and stay safe.
@@ProSimRacing you will for sure brother 💪 if you watch my first videos you will see how bad I was but with every next video is getting better!
I will never be happy with my work but that’s what helps me to do better every next upload!
Just enjoy the journey brother as that is what really matters 🤗
I found for me I'm more accurate with a stiff, minimum movement brake pedal. But I know that others find such strong brakes unuseable. So while I say to people that they should try a stiff brake pedal, I'm not telling them they are wrong for not doing as I do.
Well said Nick🤛
In the end what pedals did you end up leaving on your sim rig?
I stuck with the Imsim Talento buddy 🤛
Your vids are masterclass! Though your thumbnails need a step up lol. They look quite cheap and don't have your identity in it. Sometimes I'd go and think what's this random channel I subbed to hehe.
Hahah , you are so right man 🙈 I’m so bad with those thumbnails and have zero creativity with them and they are so important!
I must get some masters class about that or all this work will go waisted 😫
Have a great evening brother 🍻
@@chepilevski first step is always to acknowledge, cheers! 🍻
@@nemastau oh man , I’m very aware of that for so long time that I’m ashamed to acknowledge 🙈
I think you have me the idea with your first comment and I must at least create some logo and keep the picture simple and cleaner so the subscribers of the channel can at least recognize the thumbnails !
Thank you so much for giving me that woke up call as I really needed that someone to tell it exactly the way you did 🍻
Hi, where did you get the Parts from the Brake? I mean the Rubbers.
Hey buddy, those are the kit from Imsim but are too expensive! You must look for industrial elastomers!
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What game was he playing ?
The only time I would want a super stiff pedal is when driving cars without abs.
Same here but even , if I practice bit more I still prefer the softer option ones I understand the car well 🤛
I like my pedal medium soft. Rock hard does nothing for me but slows me down and my knee can't handle it.
Hard never worked for me as well! Couldn’t control the trail braking in the entry and mid corner!
In that part of the braking face I really need more relaxed feed to be precise and the the maximum from the grip 😃
The hard I was just inconsistent after 20-30 min drive ones my muscles get little tired!
@@chepilevski exactly I have full control over trail braking with a softer pedal not to mention that I dont miss a turn lol when I first started out I went hard straight away and couldn't make a turn if my life depended because loads of channels tell people the only way to go is with a 1000 kg load cell...joke. but I found this weird as I've never been in a race car with rock hard pedals and figured sim racers knew what's best and boy are most of them wrong. Every fast guy or girl I know run softer pedals. Like you said it all depends on how the user prefers it but hard pedals is such a cliché in the sim community. 100kg is enough for 99% of us combined with soft to medium bushings is perfect for most.
I never understood the mantra "hardest possible brake + no travel" and manufacturers making Hydraulic Pedals with some travel. If "no travel" why even make hydraulic pedals. Just put pressure plate and be done. Today @random callsign released a video about this topic. And it seems e sports drivers use at lest some brake travel and the majority configure their pedals for a decent amount of travel. So I think most of the hype about hydraulic pedals is just marketing. I think if I bought 1000 EUR+ pedals (like Asetek Invicta) I would also probably think this is the best possible brake configuration. But this never made any logical sense to me. Brake with Progressive harder travel makes the most logical sense to me. You train your muscle memory and is probably more precise with travel involved than no travel.
Very well written buddy 🍻
@@chepilevski I may very well be wrong. And there are people that have no travel and they preform at the highest level. But there are people with 10+ years old G25 that do the same.
So, what's better for "normal" simracer? Who just want to race. What equipment would help you the most? Help you the fastest? I don't know.
This seems to be one of those evergreen questions, where people will ask the same question over and over for years to come.
I'm always astonished how little people know about their feet.
We know how much we can differentiate with our hands, even if we are blind, or in VR, we still can differentiate and identify what we are touching.
Well with the feet its exactly the same, we have receptors that teach the brain. Try it and walk barefoot...
Why the hell does the sim-racers continue to ignore what the feet really feel in a real racing car. Why do the sim-racers pay expensive wheels to feel the tires with their hand ???
When it comes to controlling the car, It's the brake that is directly linked to the wheels, the tires, the road.
Why are the pedals disconnected to the wheels and road in sim-racing ???
Why are there no FFB Pedals???
Well, probably because there is not much profit to made out of a FFB pedal. Because it's so easy and cheap to DIY.
Fix a bass-shaker on the pedal, and set different easily identifiable frequencies (high than other effects, if you have more bass-shakers)
in SimHub for wheel slip, wheel block, ABS on that bass-shaker only.
And you will have setup any brake pedal for max performance.
The braking foot will take over the control of the car, you will even forget the FFB of the expensive wheel in your hands...
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