Fast OLEDs are insane! - Razer Blade 15 Oled Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- A 15" gamer that delivers the typical Razer Experience with a high-quality chassis and solid performance but this time around with one of THE best displays currently on the market.
Please enjoy our full video review for Razers Blade 15 OLED, and for more in-depth information, please follow the links below to our written reviews for similar configurations:
English Review:
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German Review:
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Our review unit for the Razer Blade 15 OLED comes with Intel's i9-12900H, Nvidia's RTX 3070 Ti, 16 GB DDR5-4800 RAM, and a 1TB SSD.
Time Stamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:54 - Overview, Specs, Chassis
1:38 - Ports, Internals
2:30 - Keyboard + Touchpad
3:05 - Display
4:20 - CPU - Performance
4:48 - System Performance
5:15 - GPU - Performance
6:33 - Fan Noise + Noise Samples
7:56 - Battery Life
8:13 - Summary
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Hey Guys, we made a little mistake. The Blade 15 has 2 NVME SSD Slots. Sorry about that!
Can I ask does the wasd keys get very hot during gaming? In the older 2020 razer it was too hot for.me on the keyboard when gaming
Why can’t we get the OLED with the 3080TI?
Great! Have a nice Sunday! Thanks a lot.
Thank you! You too!
@2:23 the second SSD slot is directly On Top of the SSD slot. There is a screw and a little grommet you remove and then put in the drive and then secure it back down. Easy peasy 😁
Yeah, figured that out after the review. :/ Thanks for pointing it out!
The only downside to the screen is no vrr or gsync correct? How bad is screen tearing on this machine?
So far not a single new laptop on CES have been announced with this 240 Hz OLED. Having tried that screen in person I'm really impressed, yet it makes no sense that no new laptop is utilizing 240 Hz OLED screen. What's going on there? That screen is actually superior to desktop 240 Hz OLED too, 360 nits vs 200 nits.
Very good question. I think I saw one from MSI with the same screen.
My guess is that either they are hard to come by or just much more expensive compared to Mini-LED equivalents!
We the people have caused this to happen asking for 16:10 displays. Samsung does not currently manufacture a 2560 X 1600 16:10 high refresh rate OLED display.
@@andrewmorris3479 they will come out, it’s just a matter of time
@@megacartfr I wouldn’t count on it after this move by the OEM’s. If it does happen it’ll be at least another year until we’ll see a 240Hz 16:10 OLED.
I expected more too, especially with all of the other high refresh OLED laptops coming out plus the deluge of new OLED gaming monitors. The new ASUS ProArt StudioBook has a 165Hz OLED with glasses-free stereoscopic 3D with eye tracking! It's arguably the best display at the show. I'm super hyped for that laptop.
Do both typec ports support 100w pd charging?
Great showcase
Thank you!
I have this laptop with the rtx 3080 ti, i wish that model would've come with the oled screen, and in fact it does have a second ssd slot. It is located above the preinstalled one.
Wait, there is a second SSD-Slot? Where exactly, under the flat cable coming from the vapor chamber?
@@NotebookcheckReviews It is exactly on top of the existing one in the orange sticker, it is dual layered.
Huh, interesting! Thank you for pointing that out!
@@NotebookcheckReviews no problem. keep up the good work.
do you know If anyone will be using this panel on any 13th gen on rex 40 series laptops? Such a good panel gone to waste!
I have question about this Razer Blade 15 laptop. Does the RTX 3070TI work with the Laptop Screen and external monitors? I have an ASUS TUF A15 2021 Laptop and the integrated AMD Radeon gpu works on the Laptop Screen and the hdmi port; but to use the RTX 3060 you have to use the USB C port only. I wonder if this is a coming problem with Laptops.
If that is the case then try hooking up a usb c to display port 1.4 to a fast refresh external WQHD monitor and see if the FPS increases alot.
Perhaps those fps results for some of those games would increase more. Looks like a nice laptop, wish I had a RTX 3070ti; but a RTX 3060 suffices for me. Thanks for the review....
For some laptops the display connection are wired either via the iGPU (often when you have a Thunderbolt 4 port) or directly to the dGPU (most HDMIs, Mini-Display Ports and USB-C 3.2 Gen 2s with display port pass through)
The Blade has one USB-C that is wired directly to the dGPU and so is the HDMI port, while the Thunderbolt 4 is wired via the iGPU first.
So in theory hooking up your external screen to one of the first 2 options should give you marginally better performance and latency.
This Razer Blade uses the same display as MSI GE67HX. Did you notice the flickering? As someone who underwent laser eye surgery, Im a bit sensitive to the screen flickering. Also, the screen brightness is a bit disappointing.
I did not. But I am also not very susceptible to PWM.
The noise samples of the Razer Blade 15 with 12900H 3070TI are much quieter than the values of the written review suggest for the Razer Blade 15 with 12800H 55W PL1 90W PL2 3080TI 110W 45dB Load Average 52dB Load Maximum. The low noise of the former would convince me to buy the Razer Blade 18 with 4070, which has 16:10, if only the keyboard layout would be equally good. The current layout makes it an absolute no-go, unfortunately. (I need ordinarily sized arrow and num pad keys and there should be four page navigation keys. Not asked too much for an 18" notebook, IMO. Uh, and a mechanical keyboard with deeper travel would be a dream.) --robert jasiek
Happy about the Furmark test? ;)
Understatement! Simply delighted!
Is there a bug or so? This panel can reach around 650-760 nits with HDR on and suitable HDR content. Just set the maximum HDR brightness way higher in the Windows setting (for some reason it's at 0%???). Then do the HDR calibration through the Microsoft app from the store. Just tried it on Cyberpunk, sooo much better?
Interesting, usually things get very blown out with this slider when you push it to far! I will have a Look, thanks for sharing!
@@NotebookcheckReviews for some reason it’s the opposite happening, it’s strange, but for some games it’s better now. This panel seems to have calibration or software issues, thus no certification..
Does it have PWM? Display is the same as MSI GE67 HX? I returned mine because of PWM and eyestrain with headache.
Exact same SDC4179 display as the GE67 HX.
Unfortunately we haven’t been able to measure it this time, but I would assume it’s the exact same panel!
Your noise sample is slight different from what my experience with the exact same model, lol.
It does get louder and high-pitched when gaming. Maybe a mic pickup issue anyways.
There can be a lot of different reasons for yours sounding different.
Hi, does this display support freesync/g-sync? Thanks!
It does not!
That’s why I got the 240hz non Oled qhd, it dose have g-sync and don’t have to reboot.
@@NotebookcheckReviews quite unfortunate, but thank yoy for the clarification! Also, do you know if this is a panel limitation or laptop specific? i.e. could other laptops with the same panel (like the one currently from MSI) still support VRR technology?
Here is our written MSI raider review with (probably) the same panel. It also does not feature any VRR tech, so it might be a panel specific thing!
www.notebookcheck.net/The-Intel-Core-i7-12800HX-is-insane-MSI-Raider-GE67-HX-12UGS-laptop-review.632780.0.html
What's the input lag like compared to a similarly capable desktop?
Unfortunately we have no possibility to test input lag.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Ok thanks. I suppose the title is a bit misleading - how do you know it's fast if you can't test it?
Input lag isn’t the only thing that makes a display fast. And that it’s fast is already validated by the high-refresh rate and OLED typical super fast response times.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Thanks. I bought a gaming laptop a few years back (Alienware) after coming from desktop, and the input lag was awful. So I'm looking to get a new laptop and want to ensure input lag is ok. Thanks for the review.
Interesting, I will take it to the team to see if we may be able to incorperate it into our reviews. But, as far as I know it is not that easy to measure, since there are a lot of things involved that can influence input lag!
But let's see!
Did You ever work on Macbooks? I'm very curious about how different is the finish of the laptop comper to MacBook? Is the corners very sharp? in Macbook it;s looks sharp but in touch is quite fine.
Yeah, there are pretty similar in their construction. I was personally never bothered by any sharp edges.
- Alex
@@NotebookcheckReviews Thank You Alex for Your reply, one more thing, I know that You mention this in Your video, but can You compare the noise of fans from Razer Blade and Macbook ?
I work as a 3d graphic, And of course, during rendering I expect that it will be loud but I'm curious how it is during let's say medium performance
i get only 1:20 hour of battery life for the same model. am i doing something wrong?
With what kind of workload did you test your battery life?
There are 2 NVME slots. They’re in a stacked formation. I have this same model with 2 2TB NVME drives installed.
Yeah somebody already pointed that out! I will pin a comment about that tomorrow!
I missed it when I opened it!
Is the display glass or plastic?
Unfortunately its just a plastic cover.
How bright can the hdr get ?
If I remember correctly it made no difference to brightness whether you used SDR or HDR.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Does this panel has bugs? Your peak brightness will be more than 75% higher on HDR enabled content? Do the HDR calibration but look at the HDR settings in Windows if the brightness is set higher or even the highest?
650 nits i think
is it the new model from CES?
No. They are not out yet, maybe Q2.
I wish! It’s the 2022 model, but with the upgraded OLED display option!
Fps in Destiny 2?
I can not remember, I am afraid.
But it was super smooth, and relatively easy to get high fps.
only 16 giga ram?
Yes. But user-upgradable.
What about burn in?
Hard to test since we do not have the samples for that long. But since most manufacturers have the functionality to combat burn-in, I can't see it being a real-world problem. It is not like everyone with an OLED laptop constantly complains about burn-in.
But as I said, it is tough to get verifiable data about it.
I have know what that wallpaper is
Found it in on unsplash!
I realy like razer laptop but always doesnt have money to buy it
Yeah, there prices are not for the fain harded.
@@NotebookcheckReviews btw , are u want give me that laptop ?😅 I realy apreciate it
there is a mistake in the title of the video "isane" Insane is correct, please fix it, the laptop deserve it
Fixed! Thanks!
@@NotebookcheckReviews now i can share the video without being warned about the quality of the reviewer
@@estebanWTFreak it's not that big of a deal. Typo can happen to anyone
Sorry that we are still humans and far from being perfect ;)
I'll wait for 17 inches.
17“ OLEDs? Sign me up 😅
120 hz display with 4k reolution would be superior to this sucker
I have preferred 4k displays for the longest time, but this one is one of the best I have used, except for the Mini-LED QHD panel in the Asus Flow X16.
I'd take this any day over a 4k 120 display. Higher refresh rates with a sharp enough QHD resolution is always superior to 4k where you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference on a laptop. Moreover, this is a gaming laptop if you've forgotten so higher refresh rate beats 4k.
Dont buy gaming laptops unless u plan not to play desktop are made for gaming
Gaming on laptops actually came a long way and can be an amazing experience. Not everything has the space to put a full desktop in their place. And then do not forget the fact that you can not take a desktop with you easily!
A laptop for me is a lot more flexible and I can use it anywhere around the house, be it in my bedroom or living room and what's even better is I can take it with me when I travel. I can't do that with a desktop. And when I come back home I just plug in and play and have a good experience.
What you shouldn't do is pushing your ideals on others. Speak for yourself. There's nothing wrong with getting a gaming laptop.
People, don't get fooled, Razer Blade laptops are not machines for serious people. They're awfully unreliable and the support is close to non-existent. There are issues online more than 3 years old about Razer Blade laptops problems having problems with graphic cards. I'm getting blue screens every other day and I've been through every tip and fix you can find online.
Problems from 3 years ago might not represent today's situation. Are you talking from your own experience?
@@NotebookcheckReviews yes, I have the Razer Blade 15 from last year. My point about “3 years old issue” was that they’re not new but still haven’t been fixed.
As mentioned in the review for the blade 14, the support should be at least a serious mention in the summary: it simply sucks and this is why razer is out of the question if you use this thing also for professional purposes
Used two Razer blade 15 (Primary and a Backup) for 3 years professionally and had no issues except replacing the battery on one of them which is not a surprise as it was plugged in 98% of the time.
While we do not want to mitigate the problems you guys are having, it is tough for us reviewers to validate how widespread the problem really is.
Users having problems tend to be much "louder" than the user being satisfied with their machine. That said on the latest Razer Blade reviews, almost as many people are stating they are satisfied with their devices as people mentioning problems.
But please, do not hesitate to share your experience here, so we can discuss it.
No 1000 nits
That is true ...
You gotta get miniLED screens for that
@@NotebookcheckReviews It's actually more than 700 Nits in HDR!
Best OLED in 15" laptop... in the product of the worst laptop manufacturer. On top of that - no one, not a single "reviewer" mentioned the gigantic drawbacks of OLED screens - burn out and low frequency brightness PWM.
While there is a potential burn-on problem, I personally think that its not a big problem. (I have owned several OLED-Laptops myself and used them for games and work, and I never had any problems with burn-in)
That said, it is challenging to make any reliable long-term tests. So yes, in the future, I will mention the potential possibility of it.
Regarding PWM, you are right. I should have mentioned it. But since I am personally not affected by it, I must admit in all honestly that I sometimes forget the issue.
Especially since we couldn't get any PWM measurements for the Blade this time, because of time constraints.
I hardly doubt that anyone would complain or even notice PWM if there would be no review sites constantly mentioning it (notebookcheck - referring to their written reviews - is actually one of them). Even a large amount of those complaining about headaches, I assume would not do so because in many cases it is purely a nocebo (there still might be a very small proportion of the population being actually affected by it).
That most likely will also be the reason why manufactures won´t do anything about it (technically that should be completely possible, LG OLEDs for instance do not use PWM for brightness regulation at all). But it is simply not worthy doing something less than 0,5 % of your customers are affected of or do care about.
That being said, there is also something called sample-and-hold motion blur. You won´t get rid of that until either you have very high framerates (> 1000 Hz, but 240 Hz should already be a good compromise) or introduce flickering (black frame insertion or backlight strobing, PWM for brightness regulation in OLEDs sadly won´t do the job because it does actually not flicker enough to be effective). That is also the reasons why CRTs or late plasmas were generally much sharper in motion. So don´t be too harsh on flickering since it is the only way we can enjoy sharp motion for the low framerate content we have today.
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I would love to make a video about that theory! :D