High ROI Real Estate for investing in the Greece Golden Visa

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  • 🇬🇷 Get in touch with Angelina for Lesvos real estate and the Golden Visa in Greece: thewanderinginvestor.com/serv...
    Now that the Portugal Golden Visa is officially a very bad deal, one of the most affordable options to get EU access is to invest in real estate in Greece through the golden visa. The minimum investment amount is €500,000 in Athens, the main cities and main islands. However it is possible to invest only €250,000 in small islands and still get the residency. The island of Lesbos or Lesvos is particluarly cheap, and offers very reasonable rental yields and cap rates for investors. We therefore looked at a few detailed case studies with my agent there.
    00:00 Introduction
    00:45 The situation in Greece
    01:48 Migrants on Lesbos island
    02:40 Real estate price crashed in Greece
    04:30 Real estate investment in Lesbos case study #1
    05:10 Target market interview of Swedish couple
    07:50 Many Scandinavians moving down to Lesbos island
    08:20 Case study #1 continued
    17:17 Greek real estate has become a cash market
    21:00 Greek investment property in Lesvos case study #2023
    28:50 Foreign real estate investors on Lesvos island
    30:55 Build a villa in Greece for the Greek Golden Visa
    32:30 Buy a €25,000 Airbnb in Greece for the Greek Golden Visa case study #3 with occupancy rate figures
    39:00 Who is investing in Greek real estate on Lesvos island right for?
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  • @TheWanderingInvestor
    @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    🇬🇷 Get in touch with Angelina for Lesvos real estate and the Golden Visa in Greece: thewanderinginvestor.com/services/residency-and-citizenship-by-investment/invest-in-lesbos-real-estate-for-the-greek-golden-visa/

  • @mjhmn
    @mjhmn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good to see Angelina expanding her presence!

  • @jgm3620
    @jgm3620 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video and very instructive case study. Thank you for your good work and honest approach

  • @TheParamike
    @TheParamike 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Clear, concise, and to the point. Love your vids.

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. Spread the word.

    • @TheParamike
      @TheParamike 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not spreading the word until I get there and buy :) How long will the deals last over there? I don't want to miss out @@TheWanderingInvestor

  • @Jamminn555
    @Jamminn555 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful and insightful video about investing in Lesvos Greece. Thank you so much Angelina, Estratos and Ladislas. Benjamin

  • @MarkKrupa
    @MarkKrupa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating. Thanks for the video.

  • @Izabela_S
    @Izabela_S 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello there! I am very happy to have found this video. I bought a ticket to Lesbos a week ago to do EXACTLY what you show here. My only concern was the lack of connections there. I am grateful for introducing Angelina. I sent her an e-mail provided under the video. I am looking forward to the next steps. Thank you for this video.

    • @intramotus
      @intramotus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hello, I am also very excited to use this model and find a similar property. What has your experience been so far ? Did you hear back from Angelina ? Thanks, Brent in California

    • @Izabela_S
      @Izabela_S หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@intramotus Hi, sorry for the late response. We bought a small house and starting the renovation with Angelina.

  • @jgm3620
    @jgm3620 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautifull video and great houses

  • @davidanalyst671
    @davidanalyst671 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The people there sound like fun people, the houses are cheap, and the drinks and food are cheap too!! That looks like a great place.

  • @rizkisetia6538
    @rizkisetia6538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I glad to found this video!!
    I always dreamed to have investment property in Greek with great cash flow for retirement. Thank you for the info.

  • @shariffzamani-rl8tx
    @shariffzamani-rl8tx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job guys I loved to have a small place there.

  • @patrickflynn2542
    @patrickflynn2542 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent vidéo, thanks for sharing. I was wondering about the famous Greek plumbing. Do you typically install new pipes in these houses? Greek plumbing in old construction is probably the worst I’ve ever experienced.

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      These renovation prices include new piping yes

  • @AMOSS1970
    @AMOSS1970 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, thank you. It’s also a little sad because, once all the land is sold it will be a pile of concrete, no more beautiful open green spaces…

  • @DJBILINGUAL
    @DJBILINGUAL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mind if I ask what mic you use? Also loved this. Looking at investing in Greece might even move there.

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn’t use a mic for this one. I messed up 🙈

  • @alex-dj9rs
    @alex-dj9rs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I saw you mentioned Albania in your video,with all the recent construction projects such as Durres and Vlora marina,do you think there is an investment opportunity there?

  • @nicomeer934
    @nicomeer934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have learned so much just by watching your video's. The perfect approach and explanation on how to look at a market as a whole. Not just blindly following what the mass but as a professional protecting and growing your Capital. Such an advisory service would cost a lot of money and you just give it for free. Respect for what you are doing here. And it gives me positive energy when you see how you are doing this with Full Passion and love for your Profession. Thanks so much for sharing and paying it forward, Respect✌👏

  • @dovygoodguy1296
    @dovygoodguy1296 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another excellent and creative and informative video, Ladislas. The pros and cons are so clear. What about the risk of social upheaval because of the economic troubles, plus the effective of the migrants?? So many hills and stairs, older folks would have trouble navigating, especially with the cobblestone streets

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Definitely not a fan of the migrants, but as I said they do not make it to this part of the island. Social upheaval: no more than before. As for the hills and stairs old Europeans deal with them better than old North Americans

    • @dovygoodguy1296
      @dovygoodguy1296 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheWanderingInvestor Seeing all those stairs and hilly streets reminded me exactly of what we find in the Caribbean. Definitely not to or lots of us, despite the extraordinary beauty of the island. What I was thinking about was the likelihood of general social unrest in Greece because of the economic situation, not to mention risks involving Turkey and Russia versus NATO in general.

    • @dovygoodguy1296
      @dovygoodguy1296 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheWanderingInvestor By the way, how would Lesbos compare with Caribbean islands in terms of real estate advantages?

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dovygoodguy1296 The worst has already taken place in Greece. From an economic point of view other European countries have more to fall. Greece is essentially a developing country again economically speaking.
      As for potential conflict with Turkey, it’s a risk for sure. As are earthquakes.

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dovygoodguy1296 you can’t compare the two. Incomparable.

  • @traveleconomics
    @traveleconomics 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very nice to see this 25k house yielding almost 10% in Lesbos. If you do some for the renovations on your own and manage it yourself, could be even netting around 20% a year, totally incredible!

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. The bigger ticket size is the reno work than the house itself 🙂

  • @dlukton
    @dlukton 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Diamond in the rough.
    💎
    💎

  • @user-wv8zz1iv5v
    @user-wv8zz1iv5v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s horrible try it slowly :) Very interesting market although the language for me is hard to learn having few Grec friends, never been able to pick up, like Italien, latin. Beautiful and lovely homes, with golden visa it’s a thinking. Amazing info, thank you for your prof work. UK as a charm 😊 you chg my plans, love it, great team. I will.

  • @vassilisioannou5488
    @vassilisioannou5488 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    you are very wrong about the PPP the average Greek is not poorer than the average Turk. The average Greek is way richer then an average turk it's just that you believe the fake stats that Erdogan is posting not the real life ones, you should visit the world Bank site to get your info and not site like wiki were anyone can post.

  • @DavidS-ox3li
    @DavidS-ox3li 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn’t quite catch the comment on drinking water or why they were mentioning this to begin with? Also, does the renovation budget include AC and heat?

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “Vodka” with a ukrainian accent. Not “water” 😉. Yes. The reno budgets include AC and heating.

  • @vivredutrading273
    @vivredutrading273 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello. Well, at 16:44, when you calculate the Net yield of the first house, you forget to mention the tax on rental, whether it's Airbnb or not, so it is not exactly net yield yet, is it? You have to substact rental tax, which, if I'm correct skyrockets as high as 35% of the gross revenue (as they don't care about your intermediates) above 12 K€ per year. And that puts a big dent in your estimation...

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I made a point of not discussing Greek taxes becase they depend on the structure you use, and change all the time.

    • @vivredutrading273
      @vivredutrading273 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheWanderingInvestor Understood. In that case, is there a model allowing to avoid this heavy rental tax? (15% up to 12 K, then 35% above...). Because for an individual, as it is, it drops the yield from 9 to 5%...huge issue on a potentially interesting project.

  • @user-gw2im5hf8f
    @user-gw2im5hf8f 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello. I think you are too optimistic in your high season income estimates. The real high season is only August, if in August a day costs 175 euros, then in July it is already 160 euros, and in June 150 or even lower.

  • @CashCatz
    @CashCatz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are the best islands for sailers in Greece that also have deals that would yield?

    • @serenitytvofficial
      @serenitytvofficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amazing islands for sailing ⛵️ are Ioanian islands .. happy to help you on real estate properties 👍

  • @ItalianPropertyTours
    @ItalianPropertyTours 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding the golden visa with this apartment shown, 25,000 euro will get you a golden visa? What does the golden visa give you? We are from Australia with a UK and Italian background.

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. You would need to invest €250k which gives you a golden visa (the right to live in Greece and spend as much time as you want in the Schengen area). If of italiej origin, you should get your italian passport. It would be cheap. Send me an email if you want someone who can help with the paperwork.

  • @alupolilliandebrah4242
    @alupolilliandebrah4242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello ...am Lillian from Uganda East Africa.....do African like me also purchase property there and can I also get a golden visa

  • @williamchen-eu2rd
    @williamchen-eu2rd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    how do you travel from Turkey to Lesbos ?

  • @JacobVella-mg4db
    @JacobVella-mg4db 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun video. But Fails to clarify to potential investors consideration of VAT purchase and taxes imposed on short term rentals which are tiered and substantial. 15%~45%.
    from €0 - €12,000: the tax rate is 15% ● from €12,001 - €35,000: the tax rate is 35%, and ● above €35,001: the tax rate is 45%. All of which make net yields soft. FULL Disclosure is everything my wandering friend but I do like your videos. 🙏🏽

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I do pre-income tax numbers for all my numbers because taxes change, people can use various structures, deductions, and for people from high tax countries with a double tax treaty agreement with Greece it typically does not matter.
      Buying costs and taxes are included in the legal and notary fees.

    • @DJBILINGUAL
      @DJBILINGUAL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheWanderingInvestorthis makes sense. I know you believe Albania to be inferior to Greece but if we just take this idea of tax rates could we consider Albania to be a better investment option?

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DJBILINGUAL prices shot up a lot in Albania in the past 3 years, though less than Montenegro. Prices seem spicy now. Greece has better momentum at this stage. I’d rather pay taxes on making money than paying little taxes on not making much money.

    • @DJBILINGUAL
      @DJBILINGUAL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheWanderingInvestor well said. I had no idea Albania shot up that much. It really feels like everywhere has though. I’m still soooo bitter I missed the boat on Montenegro I low key wanted to move there. Greece might not be a bad alternative though. Albania seems to have good financing options which in my opinion can be huge when trying to squeeze extra juice without having to use your own resources. Have you ever sniffed out Bucharest by chance?

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DJBILINGUAL things change fast yes. Bucharest is decent. Still pretty cheap in the big scheme of things. I just feel there is more value in Budapest even though it’s a bit more expensive.

  • @micomarinas2753
    @micomarinas2753 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    how many ours of travel from turkey to greece thru ferry?

  • @micomarinas2753
    @micomarinas2753 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    if my total investment in a property like your location and including renovation expenses and furniture reached a total a little bit more than €250,000 in a value, can that qualify me to apply for the Greece golden visa?

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The renovations do not count. However if you buy land and build a villa then the land + construction count towards the €250k

    • @BenjaminGolding
      @BenjaminGolding 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheWanderingInvestor Note that they changed the requirements to 250K for a single property and not many (so you can't apply if you bought many small ones like before)

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BenjaminGolding €500k and a single property in the main areas of Greece and €250k and a few properties in the other areas such as Lesbos

  • @LORENA-wq3vm
    @LORENA-wq3vm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m ready to leave the states now!!!

  • @buyfixrentrepeat1270
    @buyfixrentrepeat1270 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does the golden visa in greece lead to a euro passport?

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s very hard to get a Greek passport. Few foreigners do.

    • @buyfixrentrepeat1270
      @buyfixrentrepeat1270 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then what does the golden visa refer to ?@@TheWanderingInvestor

  • @murathanarslancan
    @murathanarslancan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much for the video Ladislas. However as far as I am concerned Lesvos is listed as one of the “border regions” where non-EU citizens are not allowed to buy real estate according to Greek laws. How is it possible to buy a property for golden visa in Lesvos then?

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good question. Non-EU can buy, except for turks. You just need military approval which takes 7 months. The lawyer deals with it.

    • @murathanarslancan
      @murathanarslancan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the explanation

  • @noahcdmx1985
    @noahcdmx1985 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did you get the 9% cap rate? I heard 120k for the house and 80 for the renovations with about 45k in returns after the management fee.

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Expenses need to be removed

    • @noahcdmx1985
      @noahcdmx1985 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheWanderingInvestorWhen she says you would make about half as much in the non-peak season, does she mean half per month or half as much in the whole 8.5 months vs the 3.5 months? I assumed the former and I don't think I can get down to 9%. Also is the 9% pre or post Greek rental taxes.

    • @noahcdmx1985
      @noahcdmx1985 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, I believe Greece has a standard 40% tax for rental income. Does that not apply to short term rentals?

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noahcdmx1985 pre tax. Half as much in 8.5 months vs peak season. In total.

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noahcdmx1985 sliding scale

  • @erdemulubas
    @erdemulubas 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im not really optimistic about finding decent and disciplined workers on that island to renovate the property I think I would go crazy 😅

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Let Angelina deal with this 😉. On a more serious note I saw some finished renovation jobs. Great quality 👍

  • @BenjaminGolding
    @BenjaminGolding 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude in Greece there's a 30% tax on AirBnb rentals and starting from 15% on regular ones... I don't see it in the calculation

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Airbnb is classified as regular rental income. Taxes start from 15%. I don’t discuss income taxes as they change often and ultimately where people reside matters (double tax treaty or not, etc). I do the numbers, net pre income tax

    • @noahcdmx1985
      @noahcdmx1985 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheWanderingInvestor Do you know if the standard 40% deduction applies to short term rental income? I've seen some say income tax for short term rentals is on gross income.
      I've also read that there's a VAT tax starting in 2024 for owners of "3 or more properties" being rented short term, but I'm not sure how they count properties. Would a single house with 3 units on Airbnb trigger the VAT tax?
      Obviously income tax rates can vary person to person, but these few issues would affect any potential investor.

  • @ajcapitano2425
    @ajcapitano2425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi .. may I ask you what is included in notary and legal fees to be that high 12800 ?!

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Government taxes such as stamp duty

    • @ajcapitano2425
      @ajcapitano2425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheWanderingInvestor ok thanks

    • @ajcapitano2425
      @ajcapitano2425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      However , with such total price , you can get in new building appartment with UAE eagle hills project in Durres with 3 billion dollar project .. buildings with swimming pools and gym and complete new area will be built on beach ..

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ajcapitano2425 have you been to Durres? It’s disgusting.

    • @ajcapitano2425
      @ajcapitano2425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheWanderingInvestor I been 3 times .. this project will changed it same what they did in Belgrade waterfront as changed properties prices in Belgrade too

  • @knownothingfinance7807
    @knownothingfinance7807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how are you managing and trusting the contractors and construction guys over there.

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Angelina deals with this

    • @knownothingfinance7807
      @knownothingfinance7807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheWanderingInvestor yeah I mean it’s still a hassle in the Greek island. Generally unreliable work, slow etc. something an American would be shocked by I guess.
      Same goes for material costs in the smaller islands.

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@knownothingfinance7807 yes. Not easy.

    • @alphaomegagroupgr
      @alphaomegagroupgr หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you have a good team everything is possible and timelines always met.

  • @sylvestersoong5778
    @sylvestersoong5778 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    250K is it inclusive of renovation cost?

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. But you can buy land and build villa. That’s included. Building and land. But not renovations.

  • @alupolilliandebrah4242
    @alupolilliandebrah4242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can I please have Angelina's contacts so that I can get in touch with her.....I want to relocate to Greece and buy a property there

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here: thewanderinginvestor.com/services/residency-and-citizenship-by-investment/invest-in-lesbos-real-estate-for-the-greek-golden-visa/

  • @Vickersrealestate
    @Vickersrealestate 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about the 90 days max per year of air bnb allowance in greece?

  • @kims1912
    @kims1912 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dont think its 500k on any islands, only Athens, and some other major cities.

    • @alphaomegagroupgr
      @alphaomegagroupgr หลายเดือนก่อน

      Prices right now are 250k for Historical properties, 800k for everything else

  • @Reizzzzz
    @Reizzzzz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This island is close to Turkey so wont qualify for a golden visa i guess?

    • @TheWanderingInvestor
      @TheWanderingInvestor  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This island does not work for Turkish citizens seeking a Golden Visa unfortunately. Everyone else, yes.

  • @RC94332
    @RC94332 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She’s fine. Definitely looks like she gets down

  • @RC94332
    @RC94332 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:19 that’s a selling point…

  • @mariototsi5987
    @mariototsi5987 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The world has no need in Investigation like this, people suffer in time with investions like this. Yes, so this promotion of "golden sales & golden viza's" is gonna skyrocket the housing prizes and rents.

  • @Tropical_Amor
    @Tropical_Amor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like I wasted 5 minutes of mylife , not getting to the point, but I would not recommend anyone to buy property to Greece, there are very clever and you may end up buying a building scheduled for demolition

    • @tiusernamenabalw
      @tiusernamenabalw 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Part of the standard process is lawyer due diligence, so if this truly happened to anyone I guess they were not meant to have money in any country in the world…

  • @davegordon6233
    @davegordon6233 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I liked your video. Will not touch any EU country's real estate because of their socialist mentality.

  • @TheOwlsarewatching606
    @TheOwlsarewatching606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    out of date. Lesvos was a lovely island until the masses of illegal immigrants came ashore. Look at the videos on here that will show you. Truly a disaster

    • @andreajacksonsmithjacksons2502
      @andreajacksonsmithjacksons2502 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is what I’m concerned about it’s not controlled immigration it’s mass immigration to this Island that’s why the prices are low. It’s a problem in a lot of Countries now too many all at once and infrastructure just can’t cope

    • @kostat5591
      @kostat5591 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That problem was back in 2015-16. There's hardly anything now.

  • @HowWeLife
    @HowWeLife 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Angelina is now in Greece?!? 🫣