Went with 2 of those to the Le Mans 24 hour race in France from the west coast of the Netherlands back in 2010. Was a trip to remember! What a cool car to be in on those wonderful roads on the way to it. Lots of good memories of this car when we saw other Alfisti driving around, horning and waving to us!
Hey Kyle - three things: 1) Congratulations on making the pages of Car & Driver! 2) Since you've reviewed a 1984 Spider already, how about trying to find and review a 1993 Spider? '93 was the last model year for this classic Alfa and there were many changes made to the car between '84 and '93 - in Veloce trim, the car cost a little over $25k in its final year. 3) If possible can you find and review a Volvo 240? :)
alfa romeos worst enemy is rust, so get a good look around the doors, along the wheel arches and underneath. the engine is pretty bulletproof. The Synchromesh between 1st and 2nd gear can wear out (hear for a crunch when changing between 1st and 2nd gear). I would not recommend buying a car like this if you are living in a area where it snows in the winter because the heater sucks. Parts are easily found if you know where to look, and are fairly cheap but interior parts are expensive
@Drjusmar 1 - Well, Alfa's had their own "dark ages" at the begining of the eighties trought out the mid/late nineties in terms of reliability (mainly issues with electric and electronic components, the carburetor versions were also very hard to tune). They were an independent auto maker until 1986 (I'll have to check), when they were integrated in the Fiat Group, wich also holds Lancia, Maserati and Ferrrari.
Nice, but I just hated the ugly black rubber spoiler thing on the ass of these years, I had an 82, which unlike this model year which has Bosch Jetronic electronic fuel injection, the 82-83 models had "the death pod" SPICA mechanical injection. The earlier fuel injection had 4 butterfly valves that worked well, but the death pod had all four intakes run into a single intake plenum with a single butterfly valve (the death pod) that just did not flow enough air for the injectors, and those engines always died of suffocation, as did mine before it came to me. Fortunately, Alfa manifolds are interchangable. I replaced the death pod with a set of manifolds and DOCE 40mm sidedraft Webers (the binoculars) that originally were on a mid '60's 1600 engine. Everything fit, except that the air cleaner box for those would not clear the top of the valve covers on my 116 series 2000 engine. So I got a set of velocity stacks, and secured pieces of panty hose over them to serve as air cleaners. It made an awesome sucking sound when I thumped the pedal hard. It never failed to give me a huge erection!
UNITED POLICE STATES OF AMERICA '82 model year was Ljet fuel injection '83 was the first year of the S3 body with interior mostly unchanged '86 (best selling year) new interior design monopod mid year soft spoiler was changed to a hard plastic spoiler I prefer the soft one. 80-81 had the so called death pod with '81 was the worst year all problems solved with an earlier intake manifold and air box. '81 had some minor interior changes.
I was recently surprised to read that the kamback body is actually lighter than the boat tail Duetto body, as well as being more aerodynamically efficient. I always thought the reverse was true. And that's in addition to having a larger engine. The boat tail is still the better looking, though.
I have an 84 & 88. One great trick is to ditch the final muffler and replace it with a straight pipe. The cars sound like a screaming banshee on decel, when you want it to. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.. .ITALIA ossesso
I've had several Alfa Spiders over the years. If you want to own an Alfa Romeo, you'd better be one of two things. 1) A Mechanic 2) Someone who can afford to pay a Mechanic on a regular basis
@Annihilator1111 Yes, the 1982-90 Series 3 Alfa Spiders were assembled in Grugliasco and San Giorgio. However, if I may ask you, where were the Series 4 Spiders (1991-93) assembled?
@Drjusmar 2 - I live in Portugal and Alfa's are a common site here (I think they are rare in US, maybe you can confirm that). There always have been Alfa's in my family since late 50's and I can safely say that Alfas were reliable cars. The troubled ones were the Nuova Giulleta, the 33, the 75, the 90 and the eighties Spider. Great mechanics, terrible electric and electronic components and steel. Nowadays, they're back in the game in terms of quality, at the same level of BMW. They are good cars
Iv'e got a 1985 Spider with the Twin Solex's.(126HP) It was imported from Japan but has LHD . Just in the process of Fabricating a nice open air filter housing from 18GA Stainless Steel. Everyone wanted a FORTUNE for Bolt on filters ($300). My cost? $50 and a way better arrangement.
@saabkyle04 You are right, the ninth generation of the Galant which is from 2004-present doesn't include a manual option, but the 7th and 8th does. The VR4 is only available in the 7th and 8th gen, it offers AWD, and AYC (active yaw control). So the VR4 is the rarest version of them all, since it really resembles the Lancer in terms of performance wise. Although a special version in 2009 does include a 5 speed in the V6 option. Either way I'm looking forward to your review on the 2007 Galant Gts
It was a lovely little car in its day, with plenty of character and personality. PS Kudos for Kyle for pronouncing the Italian word 'veloce' right. Yes it is ve-loe-tche, and not ve-loe-se, or ve-loe-khe.
@saabkyle04 can you please put the price that these go for.. well the one you are testing.. it will give us an idea of depreciation and value and for new cars, it will show the "as tested price"
Alfa Spyders will eat MG's alive! There is no comparison. If you liked the MG, you will LOVE an Alfa. If you ever owned an Alfa, you would know that MG's SUCK. The Brits don't have a clue what the Italians have going on. And besides, you need special BSE tools sized in Imperial inches to work on one, or you will bust your knuckles up every time you work on the damn thing, which you will probably have to do more than you drive it.
Boy I sure would like to take that Alfa out for a drive! Very rewarding car to drive, but shame about the engine note, I'd rather have a carburetted version.
@y4949 That's right, plus no navigation, wireless telephone, XM satellite radio, built-in garage door opener and dozens of other things either. It baffles the mind, how could previous generations live without those things?
My father has one just like this but we need a major restoration still looking around new jersey for a place to do it right
Very nice video Kyle.
the spider was ahead of time(most beautiful car i have ever seen)
Alfa Romeo needs to make a US comeback.
Went with 2 of those to the Le Mans 24 hour race in France from the west coast of the Netherlands back in 2010. Was a trip to remember! What a cool car to be in on those wonderful roads on the way to it. Lots of good memories of this car when we saw other Alfisti driving around, horning and waving to us!
i love tours of old cars sooooo much better than new exotics
I simply love those Alfas. A shame they're so rare in the USA...
And even sadder America didnt see the 1996+ version. Quite good looking car.
The Perfect Summer Car
So happy to see an Alfa Romeo!
I'm an italian Alfa Romeo enthusiast, so i liked so much this review! Please show us some other Alfa reviews, thanks!
Thanks for the video Kyle! I've been waiting for a video on an Alfa Romeo for quite a while. I really enjoyed it!
No waay! You found an Alfa spider? I never thought you would do a review of a rare European car like this. Awesome!
Good videos, I like you are going back to recording videos of old worn cars. Much more interesting than new or nearly new cars.
I owned an Alfetta GT when I was in high school. I fell in love with Alfas and hope they return to the States
I've been thinking I need one of these. There are several of them in my area that are relatively inexpensive.
Wow. I’m surprised it works. We have these here but you won’t see them on the motorway. Anyway, I always liked Alfa. Nice video Kyle
Very nice presentation. Reupholster the seats and install a new radio and you'd have a great ride there. Thanks.
Liked the description of the driver's seat as having "a little bit of wear' lol
this is the greatest car i have ever driven in my life.
Sweet! Never seen a review of an Alfa(except for MotorWeek)! Great video as always Kyle!
One of my work cars is a '92 Spider Veloce, such a sweet car to drive.
I'm thinking of buying this, but where I live, Alfa Romeo's are one of the rarest cars in my country.
[DW] AstraEX what is your country
Can't wait for your reviews on the NEW Alfa Romeo's that will be coming to the US within the next few years.
Hey Kyle - three things:
1) Congratulations on making the pages of Car & Driver!
2) Since you've reviewed a 1984 Spider already, how about trying to find and review a 1993 Spider? '93 was the last model year for this classic Alfa and there were many changes made to the car between '84 and '93 - in Veloce trim, the car cost a little over $25k in its final year.
3) If possible can you find and review a Volvo 240? :)
when american likes alfa romeo's cars i'm very happy! I've got an alfa romeo mito.
bye from italy :)
Read your article in C&D, pretty awesome man, keep up the good work, maybe one day you'll be on the cover :P
Wow, don't see many Alfa's here in America... Good catch Kyle!
Finally, an Alfa!
The exhaust note is so raspy, I love it.
The sexiest car ever made!
This car is so amazing. Wanna have one so bad....
@ludicer
Miracle of miracles apparently it does. Either that, or it was pushed out into the open, so Kyle could do an in-depth tour on it.☺
Congrats! I saw you have an article featured in Car and Driver, will we be seeing more of this?
Congrats on getting in caranddriver kyle
alfa romeos worst enemy is rust, so get a good look around the doors, along the wheel arches and underneath. the engine is pretty bulletproof. The Synchromesh between 1st and 2nd gear can wear out (hear for a crunch when changing between 1st and 2nd gear). I would not recommend buying a car like this if you are living in a area where it snows in the winter because the heater sucks. Parts are easily found if you know where to look, and are fairly cheap but interior parts are expensive
@Drjusmar 1 - Well, Alfa's had their own "dark ages" at the begining of the eighties trought out the mid/late nineties in terms of reliability (mainly issues with electric and electronic components, the carburetor versions were also very hard to tune). They were an independent auto maker until 1986 (I'll have to check), when they were integrated in the Fiat Group, wich also holds Lancia, Maserati and Ferrrari.
Nice, but I just hated the ugly black rubber spoiler thing on the ass of these years, I had an 82, which unlike this model year which has Bosch Jetronic electronic fuel injection, the 82-83 models had "the death pod" SPICA mechanical injection. The earlier fuel injection had 4 butterfly valves that worked well, but the death pod had all four intakes run into a single intake plenum with a single butterfly valve (the death pod) that just did not flow enough air for the injectors, and those engines always died of suffocation, as did mine before it came to me. Fortunately, Alfa manifolds are interchangable. I replaced the death pod with a set of manifolds and DOCE 40mm sidedraft Webers (the binoculars) that originally were on a mid '60's 1600 engine. Everything fit, except that the air cleaner box for those would not clear the top of the valve covers on my 116 series 2000 engine. So I got a set of velocity stacks, and secured pieces of panty hose over them to serve as air cleaners. It made an awesome sucking sound when I thumped the pedal hard. It never failed to give me a huge erection!
Fuck. Not ugly.
UNITED POLICE STATES OF AMERICA '82 model year was Ljet fuel injection '83 was the first year of the S3 body with interior mostly unchanged '86 (best selling year) new interior design monopod mid year soft spoiler was changed to a hard plastic spoiler I prefer the soft one. 80-81 had the so called death pod with '81 was the worst year all problems solved with an earlier intake manifold and air box. '81 had some minor interior changes.
I was recently surprised to read that the kamback body is actually lighter than the boat tail Duetto body, as well as being more aerodynamically efficient. I always thought the reverse was true. And that's in addition to having a larger engine. The boat tail is still the better looking, though.
I have an 84 & 88. One great trick is to ditch the final muffler and replace it with a straight pipe. The cars sound like a screaming banshee on decel, when you want it to. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.. .ITALIA ossesso
I've had several Alfa Spiders over the years. If you want to own an Alfa Romeo, you'd better be one of two things. 1) A Mechanic 2) Someone who can afford to pay a Mechanic on a regular basis
Great condition!
@Annihilator1111 Yes, the 1982-90 Series 3 Alfa Spiders were assembled in Grugliasco and San Giorgio.
However, if I may ask you, where were the Series 4 Spiders (1991-93) assembled?
thanks i enjoyed this is it sold
@Drjusmar 2 - I live in Portugal and Alfa's are a common site here (I think they are rare in US, maybe you can confirm that). There always have been Alfa's in my family since late 50's and I can safely say that Alfas were reliable cars. The troubled ones were the Nuova Giulleta, the 33, the 75, the 90 and the eighties Spider. Great mechanics, terrible electric and electronic components and steel. Nowadays, they're back in the game in terms of quality, at the same level of BMW. They are good cars
How many tries did it take to start it
I remember these, they stood out like a UFO going down Main St.
at 1:08 an amazing thing happened... an alfa started
IKR?!
Was that a 360 spyder I just saw at 1:24?! Could you maybe do a review of that thing? That'd be awesome.
the 1982-1990 Alfa Romeo Spider was assembled in
Grugliasco, Turin, Italy
San Giorgio Canavese, Italy (Pininfarina)
BEAUTIFUL CAR.I like
Iv'e got a 1985 Spider with the Twin Solex's.(126HP) It was imported from Japan but has LHD . Just in the process of Fabricating a nice open air filter housing from 18GA Stainless Steel. Everyone wanted a FORTUNE for Bolt on filters ($300). My cost? $50 and a way better arrangement.
i think ur hand has always covered up the left mic. ,still very nice video and car kyle! :)
I have the MiTo.. fantastic car!
@saabkyle04 You are right, the ninth generation of the Galant which is from 2004-present doesn't include a manual option, but the 7th and 8th does. The VR4 is only available in the 7th and 8th gen, it offers AWD, and AYC (active yaw control). So the VR4 is the rarest version of them all, since it really resembles the Lancer in terms of performance wise. Although a special version in 2009 does include a 5 speed in the V6 option. Either way I'm looking forward to your review on the 2007 Galant Gts
OMG I'VE JUST WATCHED THE TOP GEAR EPISODE FEATURING RICHARD HAMMOND WITH THIS VERY CAR !! :D I'm happy for no reason xD
I'm surprised that the little symbol printed on the hazards switch hasn't faded away due to being flicked so many times.
The awkward moment when you realize that saabkyle hasn't reviewed the Alfs Romeo 4c yet!
It was a lovely little car in its day, with plenty of character and personality.
PS Kudos for Kyle for pronouncing the Italian word 'veloce' right. Yes it is ve-loe-tche, and not ve-loe-se, or ve-loe-khe.
Can you please do another video with the newest spider?
@y4949 ,
It's a car from 1984...what do you think?!
I agree with Robert3302. Great review!
@saabkyle04 can you please put the price that these go for.. well the one you are testing.. it will give us an idea of depreciation and value and for new cars, it will show the "as tested price"
I have a mg midget its pretty impractical so I am selling it but this is a lot bigger and kind of cool I wish they still imported these to the us
Alfa Spyders will eat MG's alive! There is no comparison. If you liked the MG, you will LOVE an Alfa. If you ever owned an Alfa, you would know that MG's SUCK. The Brits don't have a clue what the Italians have going on. And besides, you need special BSE tools sized in Imperial inches to work on one, or you will bust your knuckles up every time you work on the damn thing, which you will probably have to do more than you drive it.
I'm surprised it didn't break down during the 10 minute review. Alfas are plagued with reliability issues.
You Are Amazing! Immediately kick it to avoid stalling!
Boy I sure would like to take that Alfa out for a drive! Very rewarding car to drive, but shame about the engine note, I'd rather have a carburetted version.
If you can could you find a Mitsubishi Galant VR4 that is a manual? If not then an auto would be fine, or any Galant for that matter. Thanks man.
Great,a very good looking Alfa.One of the last!
(16.000 usd is a quite nice price!)
Regards from Italy.
THAT IS MY CAR'S TWIN!!😄😄😄
@markkjay But is it reliable, and can it be used as a daily driver?
Kyleee make a video of that porsche caynne its amazing
How tall are you SaabKyle? I've been wanting to purchase one of these but i don't want to go look at something i may not fit in....
@saabkyle04 Is this your first Alfa Romeo vid?? Nice :)
So what’s up with the 2020 Alfa Romeo Guila Coupe? No one is talking about that???
Not my kind of car but I love how Kyle delivers on his "variety" promise. Excellent camera work too.
Kyle - that trunk looks fairly roomy for this size.
Show us more ALFA ROMEO model's. brera, spider, 4c, 8c, disco volante, Giulietta, mito ..
Thanks..
The Alfa Brera, Giulietta and MiTo, are the shame of the Alfa Romeo brand.
***** True that. The GTV6 is one of my favourite Alfas.
I'd love to see Kyle do a review of the Alfa Romeo 159
thinking of buying one for my fun car ^_^ now to find a good cheap one
@SawMill1567 this one was born in 1966, so it's the datsun that looks like Alfa Romeo
Looking forward to Alfa Romeo returning to the US soon! Then I'll finally be able to get the new car i want... the Alfa Romeo 159! =D I hope...
i like the new Alfas where you can enjoy the charms of it longer because it won't be in the garage half the time
is it sad that id rather have this over a miata?
Not at all
Kyle did the AC actually work in this car?
That alfa is a little bit tired, mas it's such a cool car... avoid the carburetors versions tough.
Cool!! Nicee vid
I saw one of these at London, but I didn't take a photo
Thumb up for The Alfa Romeo 8C Reveiw !!!
Can anyone tell me what year the Alfa Romeo Spider bodystyle was redesigned, after 1984? Was it 1990 or 1991? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Me about to buy, so i got to see it first.
@Flomo210 what months issue is he in?
Why dont you make more alfa romeo videos?
How much !!!? I love it !!!!
Not bad given it's age. Especially the engine. Though it did seem a tad rough.
@y4949 That's right, plus no navigation, wireless telephone, XM satellite radio, built-in garage door opener and dozens of other things either. It baffles the mind, how could previous generations live without those things?
@airfrance96 I was about to go say "no its a f430" but it lacks the vents on the sides above the lower ones. Yeah, its a F360
And could you do that gray 360 spider?
man listen to that buzzer!
the transmission on the 1982-1990 Alfa Romeo Spider
Transmission
5-speed manual
i think this is your first alfa
surprised it started, it is an alfa after all