For all the musicians who feel this , what your doing is a hobby and nothing more if you're relying on friends and family. Accept that reality and aim your focus elsewhere, stop expecting a blank check of support when everyone is also trying to live.
Needed this. Wanted so badly to impress my friends and family but they say its ok. Yet there are strangers who have reached out to me saying my beats are dope af. Reality you just gotta deal with
Id say more often its friends and family who tell mediocre "artists" that they're awesome and the next Beatles -- and then those people have a false sense of reality -- and get frustrated when nobody else "gets them". Turns out they're just not that good.
When strangers come up and say amazing things about your performance yet friends/family say absolutely nothing - not a single word - you wonder what is going on. Sometimes all you are looking for a word of encouragement from family/friends and not necessarily a fan following. Never fully understand this, it feels awkward. But you are right, we have to learn to let go of expectations be strong and focus on your passion; artists are emotional people though!
Great video! We cannot build a career on family and friends. Make great music and learn how to find and build an audience. I have learned this the hard way.
As a rapper this hit home for me. Everybody’s just like “I like it”. I’ve had so much more support from strangers cause I guess they see me as the artist vs just “Me”
If you been there for friends in need and almost always shared their business and other stuff (even if yoy u didnt like it) but did it because you their friend and want to show support. But they wont even share ONE post of my music Nah they owe me big time IMO but screw them! I'm good now. Fans from all over the world.
I agree somewhat. However, real friends will still support you, otherwise they might not be your friends. They don’t have to be fans per say, but I don’t like to make excuses for people who just don’t want to see you successful. That being said , your real friends will be empathetic to you. But good video.
This is the absolute truth. I stopped sharing music with family. My videos are finally taking off just on me changing my focus and work ethic. I enjoy your channel ✊✌
Just heard the first sentence and thats the truth we all have to accept as musicians.. „your friends and family are not your fans“ just accept it, adjust to it and keep going ‼️ 💯
it hurts though, u think they would be your first supporters, especially friends they see you hustle, sacrifice and how much your investing...but they care 0, seems like they don't get it..just a small share or a feedback would be a great help
I can probably count mines on my hands. What I really don't understand is how they can support other's but not Me, for Me is who they are always asking for money‼️
ii would agree with most of this, however, it discounts the dysfunctional family that completely ignore you in general and your success as a musician - which they can clearly see online - and never mention it to you in conversation. The only time someone said anything positive to me was when I had a hit in another country and had a radio interview. I got a call all the way from Ontario and I thought, wow, you noticed I'm a singer? FFS. Some people are dead ass JEALOUS. I've had one family member that was really kind and sent me a note to tell me he admired my accomplishments despite my setbacks - that is enough, i never need anything from this person, no likes, no money, nothing. To acknowledge those you love, just once, should be an expectation in any relationship that is supposed to nurture you. Expecting constant attention is a problem so this message is really needed. I would never beg for attention.
This doesn’t apply just to musicians. This is facts in my life right now with goals I want to achieve. Or try to but keep hitting a wall bc of Sharing my goals.
Currently going through this now. They say they listen but I don’t think they are fully hearing my music. When they say it’s “good” and only give me one worded criticism it hurts.
I'm trying to build my audience now. Between work and the kids. Gets kinda hard. I have a hard time trusting ppl cuz a guy I was tryna help stole words to my song. So I'm kinda done with ppl
This is a very good message that is not often talked about in music marketing. It didn't take long for me to realize the importance of this and that I didn't want to be that musician who expects my friends to buy my album. If you expect that prepare to almost always be disappointed. If anyone is interested I will for sure give them my website so they can listen to it there, but other than that I expect nothing. It's very unhealthy to expect your friends to buy an album and it puts pressure on them. In fact, it could destroy a friendship before it even begins. The last thing you want is a potential new friend to think you're making friends with them just because you want them to buy your music. That's an automatic turn off every time.
hi,we posted about 100 of our youtube music videos on our face book page. so i asked our relatives what they thought of our latest ones and they looked at each other acting guilty and said they never watched any of them. wtf. so much for sharing our work with them. now we know why we have low view counts.
I think what you are saying in this video is for the most part true. If you get support from people you already know then just count that as a bonus or something to help stoke the fire of dreaming. But yeah, they aren't your fanbase.
Good advice. Ask yourself “Do I want someone to stroke my ego so I feel good while avoiding a reality check, or truth I can utilize to become a better musician?” Along these lines is allowing people to hang-out during rehearsals. Big mistake. Are you rehearsing to improve or as an excuse to party? I firmly, but politely, inform people that we don’t allow people to hang-out during rehearsal because we’re working. Then follow-up with we appreciate their interest and would like them to come by when we test-run the sets (play in front of a small group of people for feedback).
Needed this right now, started to do reaction videos just for the sake of content and wanted to give my audience something different other than music and then my friends say I should stop doing it because of whatever reason and it kinda put me down. Thanks a lot for this video nonetheless
To be real, us as artists need more of an explanation from friends and family. Why we don't receive as much support from them as celebrities do. We really should stop letting people skate by on that question. It's not selfish, when I make it alone ..friends and family expect their lives to change too....so I'm confused why people don't support more up and coming artists in their endeavors...the audience seems to be selfish..because you didn't create that moment with "jay-z" ...who ever gave jay-z a handout and put him in position to be there...force-fed him & many other artists to us early...so I assume whomever is force-fed to the people by these "machine"...will slip in unnoticed and garnish a nice sized fanbase quite fast. The game is all corrupt. To the point the purpose of this video is tarnished along with it.
@@SJ-ce6gc idk, the logical kind....where if this person you know, makes great music, where's the harm in spreading the word. About said artist or song..or buying their merch, supporting their brand, the way you see people support someone they have never met & you know doesn't need the true support, like when people know they have friends or loved ones who do music & take it seriously but you post lil baby, and nba youngboy music videos all day... neither of them were affected by the shares, and still have no clue you exist...and your musical cousin, brother, nephew, friend, etc...could've used that share & push ....admiration.....or just simply to believe in him the way you believe in future, gotti, dolph...and others...Believe it or not. Some people are envious of folks with something going for themselves, takin advantage of gifts, or finding their purpose....seeing you win makes empty folks mad. The average music consumer Is empty + it's usually those who are personally closest to us as well 🤷
@@SJ-ce6gc I don't even think it's a question of how smaller acts are supported or the kind... I just think overall it's support that's needed in general. The support in reference to immediate family to global reach that mainstream acts receive in comparison to independent underground acts is almost laughable...especially when we are the endless irrefutable house of obvious talent people like to ignore. Until one of us sign a major.
thanks! we moved into a new place over the summer and the thing chirps no matter how many batteries I run through. I need to have the detector replaced.
January covid-19 2022 Ultimately Your success or failure in the music business is got nothing to do with your family or friends support. It may be because they see what you cannot. That is, your career choice is risky and unstable to begin with anyway.The belief in ones- is good, and can help to overcome the rejection. But, will it sustain you. Help you persevere through the mine-field of Industry obstacles is the question? The public buys only what the industry hype-machine promotes. It doesn't care if you have family or friends. Temporary fair-weather fan support by the numbers is all that matters. First! are you exploitable regardless of the talents you think possess. How profitable can you be used to sell product. Truthfully the music industry has always been oversaturated with individuals trying to do the very same thing you endeavor. There is no clear-cut formula for success, public adulation and fame. There's no guarantee. The uncertainties are great. Let the Illusions continue as many before you have. How you arrived, and how you survive --who knows! But your outcome will be different, so you think. But keep hope alive.
Very helpful. Life has caused me to start from scratch again so I’m recording on BandLab with just my iPad and some headphones. Never had to mix or engineer my own music before but I’ll get there. Compared to the next couple of tracks I’m working on, my mixes aren’t that good but if you like lyricism come check me out. My 9 year old son got me back to making music but I honestly can’t rely on just his feedback so I’d appreciate if any of wouldn’t mind taking the time to listen to a track or 2 (suggestions: Sleep Away the Pain, Getting Old, and Storm Chaser). The next video/songs will have Much better mix downs.
Hi. I watched this TH-cam yesterday. Even though I am not in the business, I study the demonic side of the industry. Yes ... I am a Christian. You are very articulate and seem very interested in helping these newbies when they come on board. I watched Travis Scott's concert at Astrofest. The crowds could even feel the demonic oppression and heaviness. They do curse the crowds before the concert. At one point I saw Travis shapeshift. If you didn't know what you were looking for, you would never see it. It happens in a second of time. My question is this...What happens to him now? I realize the courts could be tied up a long time with all the suits filed. What about his career? Thank you.
Artists should grow their career on actual fans, not friends and family because it doesn't validate their work. If you only have friends and family buying your merch, going to shows, liking, streaming etc. what does that tell you about your work?
This is wrong. Check this out, my friends started a new business and some lost weight etc. They became a personal trainer. So, I like and comment and congratulate them. Right. I even share their new business shops etc. But they can't even like or comment on my music?? Which is MY business. Nah! F that. They ain't real friends. You support your homies. You forgive to easy. Or you don't take your music seriously. Peace out ✌️
@@mastermusicmarketing yeah, like a list of platforms/websites/digital places that are a ‘good look’ for Artists/public figures to appear on e.g Wikipedia, Google peoples card panel… and an in depth description on them. In short… places on the internet that are a good look for musicians to appear on in order to look professional and official?
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For all the musicians who feel this , what your doing is a hobby and nothing more if you're relying on friends and family. Accept that reality and aim your focus elsewhere, stop expecting a blank check of support when everyone is also trying to live.
🙌💯
Needed this. Wanted so badly to impress my friends and family but they say its ok. Yet there are strangers who have reached out to me saying my beats are dope af. Reality you just gotta deal with
Id say more often its friends and family who tell mediocre "artists" that they're awesome and the next Beatles -- and then those people have a false sense of reality -- and get frustrated when nobody else "gets them". Turns out they're just not that good.
People support based off popularity
When strangers come up and say amazing things about your performance yet friends/family say absolutely nothing - not a single word - you wonder what is going on. Sometimes all you are looking for a word of encouragement from family/friends and not necessarily a fan following. Never fully understand this, it feels awkward. But you are right, we have to learn to let go of expectations be strong and focus on your passion; artists are emotional people though!
Great video! We cannot build a career on family and friends. Make great music and learn how to find and build an audience. I have learned this the hard way.
As a rapper this hit home for me. Everybody’s just like “I like it”. I’ve had so much more support from strangers cause I guess they see me as the artist vs just “Me”
at the end of the day nobody owes you anything. just make art that relates to you and the audience will come🤞🏼✨ keep grinding y’all🤍
Exactly Facts!
If you been there for friends in need and almost always shared their business and other stuff (even if yoy u didnt like it) but did it because you their friend and want to show support. But they wont even share ONE post of my music Nah they owe me big time IMO but screw them! I'm good now. Fans from all over the world.
I agree somewhat. However, real friends will still support you, otherwise they might not be your friends. They don’t have to be fans per say, but I don’t like to make excuses for people who just don’t want to see you successful. That being said , your real friends will be empathetic to you. But good video.
This is the absolute truth. I stopped sharing music with family. My videos are finally taking off just on me changing my focus and work ethic. I enjoy your channel ✊✌
And they never will be, so fuck'em. Just make your music and be happy...
This is the hard truth. When I learnt this I stopped being disappointed by friends and Family. People that'll support you will be strangers
Just heard the first sentence and thats the truth we all have to accept as musicians.. „your friends and family are not your fans“ just accept it, adjust to it and keep going ‼️ 💯
it hurts though, u think they would be your first supporters, especially friends they see you hustle, sacrifice and how much your investing...but they care 0, seems like they don't get it..just a small share or a feedback would be a great help
I can probably count mines on my hands. What I really don't understand is how they can support other's but not Me, for Me is who they are always asking for money‼️
That's Family. They take liberties with your love and affection. Human nature sucks and is so tiresome. And they're attached to you like leech.
ii would agree with most of this, however, it discounts the dysfunctional family that completely ignore you in general and your success as a musician - which they can clearly see online - and never mention it to you in conversation. The only time someone said anything positive to me was when I had a hit in another country and had a radio interview. I got a call all the way from Ontario and I thought, wow, you noticed I'm a singer? FFS. Some people are dead ass JEALOUS. I've had one family member that was really kind and sent me a note to tell me he admired my accomplishments despite my setbacks - that is enough, i never need anything from this person, no likes, no money, nothing. To acknowledge those you love, just once, should be an expectation in any relationship that is supposed to nurture you. Expecting constant attention is a problem so this message is really needed. I would never beg for attention.
This doesn’t apply just to musicians. This is facts in my life right now with goals I want to achieve. Or try to but keep hitting a wall bc of
Sharing my goals.
Currently going through this now. They say they listen but I don’t think they are fully hearing my music. When they say it’s “good” and only give me one worded criticism it hurts.
Facts you just have to get away from your home town and don't even talk to your family about what you are doing low key shade is what it is
True, Never take anything personally. Do what you love and stay focused on that and never give up!
I'm trying to build my audience now. Between work and the kids. Gets kinda hard. I have a hard time trusting ppl cuz a guy I was tryna help stole words to my song. So I'm kinda done with ppl
This is a very good message that is not often talked about in music marketing. It didn't take long for me to realize the importance of this and that I didn't want to be that musician who expects my friends to buy my album. If you expect that prepare to almost always be disappointed. If anyone is interested I will for sure give them my website so they can listen to it there, but other than that I expect nothing. It's very unhealthy to expect your friends to buy an album and it puts pressure on them. In fact, it could destroy a friendship before it even begins. The last thing you want is a potential new friend to think you're making friends with them just because you want them to buy your music. That's an automatic turn off every time.
It’s like that even when you have your own business they will support others business but not yours.
hi,we posted about 100 of our youtube music videos on our face book page. so i asked our relatives what they thought of our latest ones and they looked at each other acting guilty and said they never watched any of them. wtf. so much for sharing our work with them. now we know why we have low view counts.
I think what you are saying in this video is for the most part true. If you get support from people you already know then just count that as a bonus or something to help stoke the fire of dreaming. But yeah, they aren't your fanbase.
end of times betrayals will come to pass
This deserves more views. Very insightful
This some real talk bro, thank you for touching this topic
Good advice. Ask yourself “Do I want someone to stroke my ego so I feel good while avoiding a reality check, or truth I can utilize to become a better musician?” Along these lines is allowing people to hang-out during rehearsals. Big mistake. Are you rehearsing to improve or as an excuse to party? I firmly, but politely, inform people that we don’t allow people to hang-out during rehearsal because we’re working. Then follow-up with we appreciate their interest and would like them to come by when we test-run the sets (play in front of a small group of people for feedback).
Needed this right now, started to do reaction videos just for the sake of content and wanted to give my audience something different other than music and then my friends say I should stop doing it because of whatever reason and it kinda put me down. Thanks a lot for this video nonetheless
Great information and video, thanks for posting ✨🙌
To be real, us as artists need more of an explanation from friends and family. Why we don't receive as much support from them as celebrities do. We really should stop letting people skate by on that question. It's not selfish, when I make it alone ..friends and family expect their lives to change too....so I'm confused why people don't support more up and coming artists in their endeavors...the audience seems to be selfish..because you didn't create that moment with "jay-z" ...who ever gave jay-z a handout and put him in position to be there...force-fed him & many other artists to us early...so I assume whomever is force-fed to the people by these "machine"...will slip in unnoticed and garnish a nice sized fanbase quite fast. The game is all corrupt. To the point the purpose of this video is tarnished along with it.
great point
What type of support are we talking? Im curious
@@SJ-ce6gc idk, the logical kind....where if this person you know, makes great music, where's the harm in spreading the word. About said artist or song..or buying their merch, supporting their brand, the way you see people support someone they have never met & you know doesn't need the true support, like when people know they have friends or loved ones who do music & take it seriously but you post lil baby, and nba youngboy music videos all day... neither of them were affected by the shares, and still have no clue you exist...and your musical cousin, brother, nephew, friend, etc...could've used that share & push ....admiration.....or just simply to believe in him the way you believe in future, gotti, dolph...and others...Believe it or not. Some people are envious of folks with something going for themselves, takin advantage of gifts, or finding their purpose....seeing you win makes empty folks mad. The average music consumer Is empty + it's usually those who are personally closest to us as well 🤷
@@SpadeDarko ah I see thank you. Just wanted to know how smaller musicians like to be supported
@@SJ-ce6gc I don't even think it's a question of how smaller acts are supported or the kind... I just think overall it's support that's needed in general. The support in reference to immediate family to global reach that mainstream acts receive in comparison to independent underground acts is almost laughable...especially when we are the endless irrefutable house of obvious talent people like to ignore. Until one of us sign a major.
Truth !! Good music will always stand out though . an artist is only as good as tha product .
I was at the watch the throne tour too lol
i definitely needed this i was feeling down today 😢
Absolutely bro.
So pleased I signed up to your music marketing course recently. Thank you so much.
Awesome video as always, thank you. Also I think your smoke detector is chirping, don't forget to change the battery!
thanks! we moved into a new place over the summer and the thing chirps no matter how many batteries I run through. I need to have the detector replaced.
This is 100% nailed on 🔥🔥🔥
Really, really good brother! I think almost all in the Artist have been here at one time or another.🎶 11:28
thank you for posting this, much needed, level headed and realistic view on making music, love 🔊🔥
You got that right.
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Good info. Thanks.
Thank you bro
You said you what you said
I don't want them to support me or be my fans
I just don't wnat them to down grade me and make me feel liek shit when I say I want to become a singer
Good video bro 👌
Thanks
100% man!
January covid-19 2022
Ultimately Your success or failure in the music business is got nothing to do with your family or friends support. It may be because they see what you cannot. That is, your career choice is risky and unstable to begin with anyway.The
belief in ones- is good, and can help to overcome the rejection. But, will it sustain you. Help you persevere through the mine-field of Industry obstacles is the question? The public buys only what the industry hype-machine promotes. It doesn't care if you have family or friends. Temporary fair-weather fan support by the numbers is all that matters. First! are you exploitable regardless of the talents you think possess. How profitable can you be used to sell product. Truthfully the music industry has always been oversaturated with individuals trying to do the very same thing you endeavor.
There is no clear-cut formula for success, public adulation and fame.
There's no guarantee. The uncertainties are great. Let the Illusions continue as many before you have. How you arrived, and how you survive --who knows!
But your outcome will be different,
so you think. But keep hope alive.
Helpful i never need nobody though lol💯
thank you for helping us😄
Great video!!!
How do i find my audience
#Facts bro
Very helpful.
Life has caused me to start from scratch again so I’m recording on BandLab with just my iPad and some headphones. Never had to mix or engineer my own music before but I’ll get there. Compared to the next couple of tracks I’m working on, my mixes aren’t that good but if you like lyricism come check me out. My 9 year old son got me back to making music but I honestly can’t rely on just his feedback so I’d appreciate if any of wouldn’t mind taking the time to listen to a track or 2 (suggestions: Sleep Away the Pain, Getting Old, and Storm Chaser). The next video/songs will have Much better mix downs.
The difference between me and Jay-Z is MONEY and CONNECTIONS and it takes money to make connections.
Hi. I watched this TH-cam yesterday. Even though I am not in the business, I study the demonic side of the industry. Yes ... I am a Christian. You are very articulate and seem very interested in helping these newbies when they come on board. I watched Travis Scott's concert at Astrofest. The crowds could even feel the demonic oppression and heaviness. They do curse the crowds before the concert. At one point I saw Travis shapeshift. If you didn't know what you were looking for, you would never see it. It happens in a second of time. My question is this...What happens to him now? I realize the courts could be tied up a long time with all the suits filed. What about his career? Thank you.
Good message but takes too long to get to the point.
Wow
You have bad friends that's all I got from this video.
Artists should grow their career on actual fans, not friends and family because it doesn't validate their work. If you only have friends and family buying your merch, going to shows, liking, streaming etc. what does that tell you about your work?
This is wrong. Check this out, my friends started a new business and some lost weight etc. They became a personal trainer. So, I like and comment and congratulate them. Right. I even share their new business shops etc. But they can't even like or comment on my music?? Which is MY business. Nah! F that. They ain't real friends. You support your homies. You forgive to easy. Or you don't take your music seriously. Peace out ✌️
I don't think I need friends. I need business partners and cats
This is common sense, come back with some good content man you’ve been gone for a long time.
got a question you want answered?
@@mastermusicmarketing yeah, like a list of platforms/websites/digital places that are a ‘good look’ for Artists/public figures to appear on e.g Wikipedia, Google peoples card panel… and an in depth description on them. In short… places on the internet that are a good look for musicians to appear on in order to look professional and official?
Always that one hater.