It does need a bit more analysis. I wish there was a laptop with the SQ2. The SQ2 uses twice the juice of the older ARM chips. The M1 uses even more juice than the SQ2. Obviously this is how these ARM chips are getting better performance than the earlier WoA devices.... The SPX has a tablet sized battery, I think the same chip in a laptop with the same battery and increased power usage would probably be a lot closer to the M1.
Apple and the M1 seems like 4d chess. Going all the way back to ditching PowerPC yet still keeping it going via ARM development for their portable devices since the iPhone. When it came to a decade later ditching intel for their own ARM processors it seemed they were doing something drastic, not really. They leveraged what they learned from the iPad. Well played.
Has long has there are Apple fanboys, anything Apple does is well played. There is nothing you can't do on IOS that you can't do in Chrome for a fraction of the price. Apple is flexing its muscles and abusing monopolistic power, what they did now Adobe could do with a proprietary chip to run its products more efficiently. We could have done it decades ago, like we have done in GPU's, and we don't need ARM. Still for 90% of users what is really the difference between a surface, M1 or even a chrome book? For professional use switching software to hardware actually prevents evolution of the ecosystem, that is how things used to be not that far back, remember.
Fun fact! Steve Jobs actually approached intel to help make the SOC on the first iPhone! But intel told him it wouldn’t be possible to put an x86 chip on such a small device, so instead they provided the antenna, and apple approached Samsung for the ARM chip that was in the apple tv. The rest is history.
@@josearaujo8616 sounds like your doing 4D chess to validate your opinion on apple. Look, I don’t use apple devices or services and I don’t plan to. However you can’t deny that the rest of the industry follows apple, so the M1 will bring us better PCs. The switch to ARM is just a different more efficient architecture. Also, if you’re going to sit here and tell me that I can do what ever I want on Chrome OS just like iOS, than you are blissfully ignorant.
@@josearaujo8616 "Still for 90% of users what is really the difference between a surface, M1 or even a chrome book?" well sir, the difference is that you can use the M1 macbook like a computer. and simply, the other two, you can't.
@@Capt.nPeachy The difference is literally an order of magnitude increased performance on some tasks. Not like 2x. We are talking about 10x. It's not even remotely close.
@@tony24-u9x I think this is more impressive. iPod and especially the iPhone are the turning points of apple. iPad, not so much... It's just a bigger iPhone.
First came the iPod (not the touch version). The tech for the iPad came first, then the put it to one side and used it for the iPhone. Technically, the first iPhone is closest to the iPad. You guys are not thinking of product releases and technology chronologically. Read up about Apple and when things were released.
@@odinsplaygrounds Well to be fair Apple has probably been designing their chips to be laptop and desktop-ready (aka scalable) since like 2014. Microsoft never got into creating their own silicon in the time period between 2014-2020.
Microsoft is more of a software company. It's not their fault that the arm processor of the companies responsible of manufacturing them is dumpster fire.
Macs being over priced is a bit more myth than fact. It was pointed out by many tech tubers multiple times that Macs were actually decent value for what you got. The only difference being that Apple sells fewer Macs and keeps them for a full year. So 6 months later, something cheaper and comparable comes out.
@@Tomas-bm1wd honestly, I still think Apple made that stand cost a grand just because they knew that no matter the price, the people who would buy it would buy it, and the people who wouldn’t, well wouldn’t.
@@Tomas-bm1wd There are many aspects of the Pro Display which make it dirt cheap compared to its competition, and adding the price of the stand doesn't change that.
M1 gets a higher benchmark score on a virtualised version of Windows 10 than a Surface Pro X runnin native Windows 10. I almost died laughing seeing that 😂
That is true but also, it's likely the developers of these apps elected to take the time to bring full support to Apple's platform because it's actually worth the trouble. No matter what, Apple can't really strong-arm all those open-source apps' dev teams, especially something as big as Mozilla Foundation who make Firefox. For them, what it comes down to is this: the release of ARM-powered Macs that actually worked well meant a bunch of their Mac users got onto that platform and requested/demanded a native version. At the same time, their Mac devs could also get on to the platform and, the platform actually working, enabled them to provide that native version. From what I've seen, supporting a macOS app on M1 natively when you have a version out for Intel isn't that much of a hassle, certainly not as much as one might expect for shifting a whole CPU architecture.
Developers did so because when Apple makes a drastic change for their line up, the vast majority of their users will follow. Since Apple's user base is large, but also consumerist, if you choose to not optimize your app for that type of market, you will lose. So developers had to optimize their apps for the M1 or risk losing out on a crap ton of money.
@UwU Windows phone wasn't too bad. It had it's benefits. A lot of things that Apple and Android are just now implementing windows phone had already. Not to mention, for me the zune music player is better than anything either of them offer locally.
Some are suggesting Intel should just give up making chips altogether arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/activist-hedge-fund-advises-intel-to-outsource-cpu-manufacturing/ .
@@bluesrike Given they lost something like a quarter of their share price over the last year, I would say they don’t quite have as much money as they did before.
In comparison with 13" laptops with integrated graphics? Are you joking or what? x86_64 CPUs never was designed for low-powered mobile devices, it's literally just ripped off versions of regular desktop CPUs. ARM-bases processors have no chances against full-powered desktop CPUs. And never will.
@@Chastity_Belt That is too big of a claim. And pretty confident that it wont hold true. ARM architecture can very well scale all the way to compute heavy data centers and in some cases, beat x86 CPU's. Especially when efficiency is critical. If you are going to make a blatant claim like "Arm wont ever beat x86" you need a very good argument to back it up. Investments done to reduced instruction set architectures is much higher than CISC architectures. From investments alone Arm and RISC-V are progressing faster and they will very likely beat x86. There is a good reason Nvidia bought ARM. It wasnt just a clever economic decision.
@@rotteneldritch7037 I tend to buy used Macs. Unfortunately that won’t be an option when it comes to Apple silicon ones for a while though. As for the ports, it’s personal preference really, but I’ll take 4x USB 4 over 4x USB-A 3.2, HDMI etc. Would like an SD card slot but eh.
People who are really serious about not being taken for a ride shouldn't be buying all their hardware from the same place. I'm honestly going to be really annoyed if the whole industry starts going the SoC/All-in-One route. No upgrades! No repairs! Only buy computer as single unit!
What's a dad? Well... it's the male parental figure. The second half of the average straight family, other than the first half being the mom, the female parental figure.
Got the M1 MBA the day it went onsale. Absolutely love it. After years of inflated claims by Apple about performance this one actually lives up to and in some ways surpasses those claims. Pretty great. MY first Mac since the iMac G5.
I wish I could find a good iMac G5, as I've always wanted to mess around with the last generation of Apple's PowerPC. FUN FACT: PowerPC and ARM are very similar in the fact that they are both a RISC architecture (Reduced Instruction Set Computer) compared to x86, being CISC (Complex Instruction Set Computer)
@@nakdickson Because they're responsible for creating a Windows Version that works well with ARM processors. And usually Surface products are known for delivering the best Windows experience...until now. Since Apple M1 Computers get better performance with non-native Windows virtualization than their surface products get with native windows, it goes to show that Microsoft has a long way to go to catch up with the competition. And it's also embarassing for them to know that Windows (ARM only) runs better on a Mac.
@@cybertari you point is so invalid. If windows on works better on M1 than ARM. Then that should indicate that ARM processors are not as good as M1 not a windows problem.
I mean... windows 10 for ARM is the same as Windows 10 Home/Pro/Workstation/Server, just maybe with different features. just like their Home/Pro/Workstation/Server versions
I'm still amazed they can do all this on such low wattage, and even though it doesn't scale linearly, I really wanna see bigger ARM chips in the future at higher wattage.
ARM starts to lose a bit of its efficiency when scaled to a larger die, though thats not arms biggest problem right now. Arm designed laptops biggest problem right now is having enough lanes for peripherals (storage, graphics and any add in card functionality). Because laptops don't need the extra lanes as much, laptops are viable but it is likely not viable for desktop replacements in its current state.
One thing that helps is that Apple’s ARM machines are completely integrated and locked down. You can’t even upgrade the RAM. So they can fine-tune everything to work exactly right with everything else, without the need to worry about a range of possible hardware configurations.
they are around and probably becoming more common soon with all cloud providers trying to catch up to AWS graviton2 chips (which did already beat intel's performance for less money months ago on AWS) plus nuvia saying they have something better than m1 and nvidia buying arm and trying so hard to get a super computer contract using it...
@Christopher Grant not trying to hurt anyone's feelings or say intel is dead... topic was about arm evolution... my point it that it's gaining traction in sectors that demand more and change fast. Quite a few players are throwing money at/trying to sell the idea, down the line this will reach us. For my case, aws, it's very very attractive, since you save good money without much effort... I see their competitors trying to get to it too and this competition leads to innovation.
I LOL’ed at this, too. Hey, competition is good! But I hope everything goes to ARM soon. Windows’ Intel emulation on ARM is shit, though. You’d think they’d be intimately familiar with Intel by now given how they’ve been fucking married to them for literally dozens of years
@Muhammad Rafif there's a rumor that AMD is actually already prototyping their own ARM chip back in 2014 but stopped in 2017 (I think because of Ryzen) and also rumor that AMD started to look back to the project recently because of the rise of the ARM chips
@@affectedrl5327 Then if Intel will come out with an ARM design, they will be fine as well. Besides, as far as I remember, AMD business is based on following instead of innovating. That's how the company started.
@@diavalus yeah ofcourse. If the product is good they will be fine. Intel isnt fine at the moment because they offered mediocre products for a high price over years.
Shows how terrible Qualcomm ARM is IMO. It's pretty much the same story on Android too...they just fall so flat compared to Apples smartphone chips. Let's see if MS own chips can close the gape...if they put the effort in.
What are you smoking.... Microsoft has been doing it way before apple. Its more of a classic example of what happens when you don't make your own chips and have to rely to third party manufacturers.
@@wta1518 The innovation is that the cheaper "Apple Version" actually has more performance than the more expensive Windows version. Most people don't bother if someone built something similar before, they just bother if it runs good and if it has enough performance to satisfy their needs.
@@wta1518 Keep smoking that Microsoft crystal meth, you are hilarious! It must really really hurt to see these vids eh! The M1 is literally innovation. That Surface Pro wouldn't have got past Apple's quality control in a million years. A company making something first that's a pile of shite is anything but innovative, all it is is still just a pile of shite that no one in their right mind would pay 1600 dollars for
I honestly feel like I've fallen into a parallel reality seeing how much Linus actually loves the new Apple Silicon transition. I'm really glad Apple was able to pull this off, and honestly pumped to see what the M1X and M2 chips look like as they continue this rollout, because the next year or two for Apple could be absolutely mind blowing.
@@JasonZakrajsek Yeah i know. I also know that was the rumored name of the chips before. That’s why I’m correcting (updating) the name of the chips now.
@@techgeeknzl your point is quite redundant, you know Microsoft also makes it's own software and hardware right? It's called windows and they literally made their own hardware for it called the microsoft surface and worked with qualcomm to make a custom chip. And the mac running WINDOWS, still beat the Microsoft machine running windows. No excusw.
@@default2826 yes, but the difference is that Apple has always been first and foremost a hardware company. They've been doing this since the seventies, so they ought to know what they're doing by now. By contrast; Microsoft has always been a software company, and actually loses money on most of the hardware they license their name to.
@@techgeeknzl What are you even on about?? Apple has been a hardware company when it comes to their phones and ipads mostly. In the computer world they used to run on intel cpus since 2005/2006 and were mostly focusing on their software side of business. Just because they started with the M1 recently, they're "hardware creators" all of a sudden? We're talking computers here so cross the phones and tablets out of the equation. The fact that they've never had their own chip before and now all of a sudden they come up with a masterpiece it's truly astonishing. They ashamed intel AND microsoft, because my audio production plugins and project sessions run more smoothly on my new MacBook Pro than on my i9 9900k workstation. And i've been a Windows guy for the last 2 decades, today i've bought my first M1MBP and i didn't pull the trigger till today because i never liked the intel based macbooks due to Thermalthrottling and fan noise which on my M1 MBP it's totally fanless unless i stress the laptop in brutal 100% benchmarking for more than 10 minutes. You how no idea how much this laptop is offering for the money. It's the first time ever when Apple offers more for the money than the Windows counterpart. It used to be the other way around.
I still think it's crazy that we are seeing this type of performance from M1, their low-end "budget" chip. What's going to happen once we see their Pro-level chips? Gonna be an interesting next few years in the CPU space that's for sure.
@@OneDerscoreOneder I think people do tend to misinterpreted M1 capabilities. The ARM design has huge capabilities in terms of power efficiency. That's why it's performance is great in thin and light laptop's and also in specialized server environments. As always there is a price to pay and that's raw horsepower and flexibility. X86 CISC instructions offer far more capabilities, which ARM can't execute. That's why X86 won't loose to ARM like it's suggested in lots of reviews out there. X86 just has a new competitor in the thin and light low power compute sector. In complex executions ARM will loose because of its RISC based architecture. www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidauthority.com/arm-vs-x86-key-differences-explained-568718/amp/
@@MrSal445 isn’t Rosetta doing a lot of heavy lifting though? Qualcomm chips for mobile phones are very competitive with Apple silicon, it always comes down to the software that makes the huge difference in Apple devices.
You can't compare phones to laptops. Apple software is optimized for specific hardware, a luxury that most phone manufacturers share. That's not to say we can't call out Microsoft for a underwhelming product. But, you really can't compare performance between phones and laptops.
Totally get your point, this is expensive for what it is. But I don't think it's fair to say that all emulated software runs like crap on Windows - I use a tool called WinMerge quite a lot, it's just as fast on the Pro X running emulated x64 as my Surface Book 2 i7 - Granted it's a fairly simple app that is CPU not GPU intensive at all, but it runs great, same with a lot of software. Compare that to x86 Visual Studio 2019 which takes an age to get going (runs "OK" once you're loaded into a project) and you do notice how slow emulation of some software is. I think WoA has a problem with emulation of GPU intensive x86 apps, pretty sure I read shortly after it's release that for emulated apps all graphics rendering is software based, but could be wrong. I don't use Chrome on any of my devices, but I know some picky people who've used Chrome emulated on Pro X and didn't complain, I'd expect them to right away if they noticed a performance issue. Hope that the emulation will improve but would have preferred some real-world comparisons for this video rather than just benchmark apps
Thank you for producing this. I have the Surface X and think Microsoft ripped everyone off on it. No 64bit. You can't even run a native copy of DropBox. It's a scam.
@@771shadowolf With Windows 11, it works much better. That said, you pay a price for having the low-power chip. It's slower. The Surface Pro 8 is much faster, but doesn't have LTE built in.
Qualcomm is garbage and only propped up by the fact they shut down all of their competition early on. We have known for years that they are the cause of bad performance, heat profiles, throttling issues, battery life issues on Android and everything else. They need to be dropped like bad eggs.
Qualcomm don't develop their own processor. They take off the shelf arm design, tinker here and there and slap cryo on its name. Until arm develop a serious desktop processor, we will always get shitty processors.
It goes to show that expanding your brand too far can lead to having less influence in the market. Apple has a very small lineup of product compared to every other tech brand, so when they make a change, the entire industry has to adapt. When Microsoft makes a change to their computers, people will just buy something else that doesn't have that change.
It's very well known that Apple is a hardware company, and they always have been; they only write and sell software because the hardware is largely useless without it.
@@svenesven8703 Do you not remember they forced the upgrade to win10 on win7/8/8.1? It was the most disastrous releave ever by microsoft, youre litteraly wrong
The 60 FPS crowd would *actually* love MacOS on M1. It refuses to drop frames. I can drop frames just by Win+Tab'ing on my Intel Ice Lake laptop on battery 😂 😭
I love all the great laptop reviews and showcases lately, it's awesome to see the newest desktop hardware and all but it's nice to see LTT give some love to the thin and light laptop enthusiasts! Keep up the great work!
"The ARM architecture has finally arrived on the desktop?" The ARM architecture was on MY desktop in 1987, with the Archimedes. A glorious machine, far ahead of its time.
Lots of Products back in the 80s where Genious, ARM inside #Acorn #Archimedes and for shure the #commodore #amiga , for the Amiga there is Stil new OS in work After 35 years, myself have all Amigas ever built😍
Acorn and Amiga were seriously underrated. If only Commodore's marketing department wasn't utterly incompetent, things would be a _lot_ different today 🤔 Edit: and I believe RISCOS containers to exist in one form or another.
@@carholic-sz3qv they have a few years to figure things out, but they can’t continue how they currently are. In terms of market share they’ve been dominating for the last decade, but their processors are really falling behind in the desktop, laptop, and server/enterprise spaces. AMD has gained a lot of market share for desktop CPUs. Intel’s market share in the laptop space is at risk because of these M1 Macs and AMD’s more efficient Ryzen chips. Their enterprise chips offer many more cores for the price. If Intel doesn’t do anything they will end up in trouble.
@@eduardobragaxz well Intel certainly knows more about processors than I do, so they probably had a logical reason. From my understanding both architectures have their strengths and weaknesses. They didn’t see the weaknesses of the ARM architecture being suitable for desktop use, so they never tried it. Perhaps Apple found a new strength after they continued developing their ARM architecture processors for phones which allowed them create such a strong performer for a laptop.
@@eduardobragaxz What it really comes down to is support. Microsoft has to take the step for everyone and bring a chip, an OS, and some way to help people transition from x86 to have ARM take off. Intel can't just create 30 core 120 thread ARM processor and sell it for anything. What OS are you going to run it on, Windows ARM? That up until recently, couldn't really run anything beyond Microsofts hardware? Even that wouldn't be enough to paint the picture to OEM's to follow suit. Microsoft has to paint the picture for everyone, and show everyone why its better. Intel won't take that financial risk with so little support, so Microsoft has to make the chip, show legacy software working, and show everyone that ARM will be better for everyone in the medium to long run.
@@tylerlovesmacs Absolutely correct, Intel and Microsoft would have to work together if Windows on ARM is going to gain any traction. That’s Apple’s advantage with M1, they don’t sell an OS, a processor or just an assembly of parts, they sell a product.
@@bernardo-x5n auto completion is your friend, no need to enter all the 90 words! Plus you can write scripts! And many more things! Linux install you must! Yoda
I'm absolutely in love with my M1 Macbook Air. It's my home computer that I use for emails, photo editing, and just browsing while on the couch. I've had it unplugged since last Wednesday (8 days now..). I was so confident in the battery life I took it on a trip without the charger and watched almost 5 hours of movies on it, lots of email and web browsing, and it's still at 35%.... my previous 2018 MacBook Pro would have been dead shortly after the movies. Very excited to see what the future brings...
I almost made that same mistake, but luckily bought the surface pro 3 instead and it still works great. The salesman was really pushing the surface 3 but when he told me it was a non x86 device and everything would have to come from the Microsoft store, I legitimately laughed in his face
at least it did get jailbreak so you could use some stuff on it. I'd keep my 11 inch Lenovo Yoga RT if linux had been released for it but that never happened.
I bought a Surface Pro 4 a few years ago. Now the battery is bloated and damaged the display, and is a potential fire hazard. Microsoft Support basically told me to fuck off. I hate Microsoft. Of all the Tech-Giants they are clearly the least competent and worst for user experience.
Well… Now that Desktops are running on ARM, I can stop speculating about how awesome it will be. In fact, it's practically mainstream now, so my hipster soul demands I move on. How about a sweet RISC5 desktop CPU and Operating System combo?
I used to work in IT for a major corporation and my team was responsible for bringing in new hardware. The powers that be refused to use anything except Surface Pros. The latest one had so many random issues that simply shouldn’t be problems, we re-issued them SP4s until we can convince them to use other 2 in 1s or switch to laptops.
The slightly audible chuckle in the background after Linus says, "these words from the teleprompter" at 40 seconds must be the script writer for the episode. 0:35
For me Windows has been the "if I *have* to use it OS" (gaming) for many many years. *Everything* else is better in MacOS and/or Linux. For example programming on Windows is painful, except in some edge cases.
I'm guessing you haven't tried it since they release WSL2 and Terminal. I'm a DevOps Engineer and It's amazing now. Actual Linux would obviously be better but if you don't have that choice then you really can just whichever of Windows or OSX you prefer. OSX isn't perfect, it's BSD versions of applications do not always work the same way as they do for Linux (looks at sed). Personally, I prefer actual Linux running on Windows to the uncanny valley of OSX, but that doesn't mean it's right for everyone.
Arm is like the only browser that is still alone in the sea of browsers. All other known brands are Chromium based, aka Google. So, Google is essentially hampering all that ARM development.
Apple has never stood still with their chips, even though they could have. You have to remember that the M1 is not in any high-end machines. What happens when they design silicon for that?
@@sherilydaniel6690 seriously, you could probably remove the fan from the Intel Macbook Air and still be within single digits perf. dif. The fan was barely cooling anything.
@@tordjarv3802 in theory any company could compile even their proprietary code for whatever architecture they want. It is however not as trivial since a long list of bugs did need to be resolved in case of firefox before it became usable for windows and linux ARM
@@shauryakalia3296 Yes they can compile it for what ever architecture they want, but you can't compile it for what ever architecture you want, because it is proprietary. Yes, bugs could potentially emerge but with free software you are free to try to solve them yourself, with proprietary not so much.
They really did Microsoft dirty with that windows virtual machine performance comparison on the Mac.
tbh in 2013 (iirc) Macbook Pro was voted as the best windows productivity laptop. Well, given you install windows on it, but nonetheless.
Straight up owned
yeah that was brutal :D
They did dirty to Snapdragon more than to Microsoft.
The windows are dirty :P
Ouch, I"m dropping an F for Intel on this one, sorry Intel, all your friends are leaving you behind.
Losing in every avenue
friends? more like hostages
@@hanmetalworks seems Mario finally found the right castle.
>still using the F meme
@@Solaxe F
7:00 - Stop, stop, he’s already dead!
These 30s were brutal!
apple 💪
When a virtual machine on a Mac beats your native hardware, you know you have a bad day
@@narutobroken Yeah I hate Apple, but gotta give this to them. They actually did it. And they actually did it amazingly well.
Well , don´t forget that Windows is using a Mobile Arm CPU. And Apple is using a fully build CPU.
Wow, crushing windows while running Windows emulated on Mac... That is some Inception grade whoop-ass.
Microsoft can’t make any hardware other than xBox
Even xbox will be a history ... as it couldn’t catch up with ps5
It does need a bit more analysis. I wish there was a laptop with the SQ2. The SQ2 uses twice the juice of the older ARM chips. The M1 uses even more juice than the SQ2. Obviously this is how these ARM chips are getting better performance than the earlier WoA devices.... The SPX has a tablet sized battery, I think the same chip in a laptop with the same battery and increased power usage would probably be a lot closer to the M1.
@@sitiraudahas your kidding right?
@@ko-Daegu apple: makes a console
So many missed opportunities to say "ARM's race"
Underrated comment right here!
Arm wrestling is better
We have pc master race
We dont need a new race
@@Mustafa_9628 what about Nascar
@@andrewgoss1682
Idiot
Race here is not about cars
Whats wrong with you people
I’m so used to Linus bashing on Apple that it throws me off hearing him praise them so much.
same
Apple killed it with their entry level laptop/desktop chips so far.
M1 is amazing and you can't deny that fact
@@Garrettdx1988 Not only chips, also in emulation
@@clickbaitpro rosetta is more like a translation rather than emulation, thats why its doing so much better than the windows alternative.
Apple and the M1 seems like 4d chess. Going all the way back to ditching PowerPC yet still keeping it going via ARM development for their portable devices since the iPhone. When it came to a decade later ditching intel for their own ARM processors it seemed they were doing something drastic, not really. They leveraged what they learned from the iPad. Well played.
Has long has there are Apple fanboys, anything Apple does is well played. There is nothing you can't do on IOS that you can't do in Chrome for a fraction of the price. Apple is flexing its muscles and abusing monopolistic power, what they did now Adobe could do with a proprietary chip to run its products more efficiently. We could have done it decades ago, like we have done in GPU's, and we don't need ARM.
Still for 90% of users what is really the difference between a surface, M1 or even a chrome book? For professional use switching software to hardware actually prevents evolution of the ecosystem, that is how things used to be not that far back, remember.
Fun fact! Steve Jobs actually approached intel to help make the SOC on the first iPhone! But intel told him it wouldn’t be possible to put an x86 chip on such a small device, so instead they provided the antenna, and apple approached Samsung for the ARM chip that was in the apple tv. The rest is history.
@@josearaujo8616 sounds like your doing 4D chess to validate your opinion on apple. Look, I don’t use apple devices or services and I don’t plan to. However you can’t deny that the rest of the industry follows apple, so the M1 will bring us better PCs. The switch to ARM is just a different more efficient architecture. Also, if you’re going to sit here and tell me that I can do what ever I want on Chrome OS just like iOS, than you are blissfully ignorant.
@@josearaujo8616 "Still for 90% of users what is really the difference between a surface, M1 or even a chrome book?"
well sir, the difference is that you can use the M1 macbook like a computer. and simply, the other two, you can't.
@@Capt.nPeachy The difference is literally an order of magnitude increased performance on some tasks. Not like 2x. We are talking about 10x. It's not even remotely close.
I think this is the best thing Apple have done since releasing the first iPhone.
so true. its revolutionary
@@tony24-u9x I think this is more impressive. iPod and especially the iPhone are the turning points of apple. iPad, not so much... It's just a bigger iPhone.
@@Nick-xc4fy "It's just a bigger iPhone." I think we live in different centuries
@@Nick-xc4fy what it isn't a bigger iPhone! It is a bigger iPod touch!!
First came the iPod (not the touch version). The tech for the iPad came first, then the put it to one side and used it for the iPhone. Technically, the first iPhone is closest to the iPad. You guys are not thinking of product releases and technology chronologically. Read up about Apple and when things were released.
Parallels has a build that runs ARM windows even better than the one shown.
Upvoting this so LTT can see. Maybe we'll get a second video. :P
Linux runs on arm even better than windows
@@ChrisJones-rd4wb no s**t it’s linux
@@ChrisJones-rd4wb Linux runs on anything
And it'd be cheaper just to buy the mac with parallels
I like how the Apple product runs windows better than the Microsoft product. Dumpster fire confirmed.
So true
That's big off
Microsoft had so many years to do this, then Apple pumps out better support and performance in a short time instead. Microsoft sleeping at the wheel.
@@odinsplaygrounds Well to be fair Apple has probably been designing their chips to be laptop and desktop-ready (aka scalable) since like 2014. Microsoft never got into creating their own silicon in the time period between 2014-2020.
Microsoft is more of a software company. It's not their fault that the arm processor of the companies responsible of manufacturing them is dumpster fire.
Never imagined that I'd hear of a MacBook Air leaving anything bleeding and unconscious for cheaper.
Macs being over priced is a bit more myth than fact. It was pointed out by many tech tubers multiple times that Macs were actually decent value for what you got.
The only difference being that Apple sells fewer Macs and keeps them for a full year. So 6 months later, something cheaper and comparable comes out.
@@TheDeathmail exactly it’s like when apple release $999 stand that’s overpriced and people think the whole lineup is like that when it’s not
@@Tomas-bm1wd honestly, I still think Apple made that stand cost a grand just because they knew that no matter the price, the people who would buy it would buy it, and the people who wouldn’t, well wouldn’t.
@@Tomas-bm1wd There are many aspects of the Pro Display which make it dirt cheap compared to its competition, and adding the price of the stand doesn't change that.
@@jessthebenjamin758 yes and it also created a load of talk because of it. Ltt made a good video about the $700 wheels and stand
If Apple's new processor gets available for generic laptops then Intel's cpu business will be gone. Not much improvement in last 10 years..
Impossible
Will never happen.
Well apple dose contract TSMC to make there chips, do maybe in a roundabout way that might happen!
They dont have generic laptops, the air is the lowest you can get. They wont sell there chips.
@@DoubleMonoLR I guess because most most big names make only the end product and not what apple does, the os, the hardware and chips
M1 gets a higher benchmark score on a virtualised version of Windows 10 than a Surface Pro X runnin native Windows 10. I almost died laughing seeing that 😂
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ncie.
Yeah. It's not only faster. It's almost twice as fast.
@@haschid And at the same time, managing to be a cheaper device
and at the same time uses less power 😂🤷🏽♂️
That shit was painful phew~~~~~~
The wallpaper on the MacBook is the best thing I've seen today
true
Yeah lol I have it as my wallpaper
@@noxious7061 same all I need is the link lol
Haha ffs thanks.... Took me ages to see it 😂 but know I have 🤣
Satellite map flashbacks intensify
The giggle in the background when he mentions the teleprompter is priceless
Timestamp?
@@bambi992 0:39 is about where I heard it
@@smartmas6 thx mate
Is the mention of their sponsar🤣
Yes
8:25 That "scrambling" is the reason why Apple is such a powerful entity. I mean, who else has that kind of pull?
That is true but also, it's likely the developers of these apps elected to take the time to bring full support to Apple's platform because it's actually worth the trouble.
No matter what, Apple can't really strong-arm all those open-source apps' dev teams, especially something as big as Mozilla Foundation who make Firefox.
For them, what it comes down to is this: the release of ARM-powered Macs that actually worked well meant a bunch of their Mac users got onto that platform and requested/demanded a native version. At the same time, their Mac devs could also get on to the platform and, the platform actually working, enabled them to provide that native version.
From what I've seen, supporting a macOS app on M1 natively when you have a version out for Intel isn't that much of a hassle, certainly not as much as one might expect for shifting a whole CPU architecture.
A lot of this really just comes down the monopolistic control Apple has over their platform.
Developers did so because when Apple makes a drastic change for their line up, the vast majority of their users will follow. Since Apple's user base is large, but also consumerist, if you choose to not optimize your app for that type of market, you will lose. So developers had to optimize their apps for the M1 or risk losing out on a crap ton of money.
XIAOMI making phones with 108mp, 120hz and 5050mah for 200$: ahem
@@unknown185 what's the SoC?
Microsoft just did themselves some self-hARM
Microsoft hasn't released x64 emulation yet
MicroPlotting their own demise
Lol i saw this above the exact same comment but posted by a different guy
@UwU Windows phone wasn't too bad. It had it's benefits. A lot of things that Apple and Android are just now implementing windows phone had already. Not to mention, for me the zune music player is better than anything either of them offer locally.
@@shadowminion3070 This was first
Those eyes peeking through the MacBook’s wallpaper is hilarious.
It's Linus face
@@paristath6773 no sh*t
i need that wallpaper
I’m commenting before the people of the internet start hating that you didn’t notice it before
@@armstrongcanon7833 sherlock
Linus: "Nice one, Microsoft! And my condolences, Intel."
Oof, did not see that one coming.
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Some are suggesting Intel should just give up making chips altogether arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/activist-hedge-fund-advises-intel-to-outsource-cpu-manufacturing/ .
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Intel has a lot of money. I think they're gonna wrap their heads around sub-14nm manufacturing eventually.
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Don't listen to asstechnica they are only slightly better than the verge
@@bluesrike Given they lost something like a quarter of their share price over the last year, I would say they don’t quite have as much money as they did before.
"Both of them are snappy" - and The windows machine had fps drop while you said that.
Snappy, maybe..... smooth? Hello no!
😂🤣😂🤔🙄💥
time stamp?
pls
@@QWERTY-135 4:00 kekw
@@QWERTY-135 3:55
“My condolences Intel”
Imagine getting dunked on by ARM chips
inb4 intel creates it's own ARM chip
Arm could be just as powerful as x86 though, usually power limits stop it but mobile chips have got pretty fast, especially amds 4000
In comparison with 13" laptops with integrated graphics? Are you joking or what? x86_64 CPUs never was designed for low-powered mobile devices, it's literally just ripped off versions of regular desktop CPUs. ARM-bases processors have no chances against full-powered desktop CPUs. And never will.
@@Chastity_Belt but they do? Have you not been looking at the comparison videos?
@@Chastity_Belt That is too big of a claim. And pretty confident that it wont hold true. ARM architecture can very well scale all the way to compute heavy data centers and in some cases, beat x86 CPU's. Especially when efficiency is critical.
If you are going to make a blatant claim like "Arm wont ever beat x86" you need a very good argument to back it up. Investments done to reduced instruction set architectures is much higher than CISC architectures. From investments alone Arm and RISC-V are progressing faster and they will very likely beat x86.
There is a good reason Nvidia bought ARM. It wasnt just a clever economic decision.
As Alan Kay once said: "People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware."
steve jobs has cited this alan kay quote in previous apple keynotes too lol
@@rotteneldritch7037 honestly they're pretty affordable for the quality you get
@@rotteneldritch7037 I tend to buy used Macs. Unfortunately that won’t be an option when it comes to Apple silicon ones for a while though.
As for the ports, it’s personal preference really, but I’ll take 4x USB 4 over 4x USB-A 3.2, HDMI etc. Would like an SD card slot but eh.
As did Steve Jobs show in the reveal of the first iPhone. Or was it the first iPod nano?
People who are really serious about not being taken for a ride shouldn't be buying all their hardware from the same place. I'm honestly going to be really annoyed if the whole industry starts going the SoC/All-in-One route. No upgrades! No repairs! Only buy computer as single unit!
“one heck of an arm wrestle” HAA what a dad
it's okay to not know what dad is
A Dad is someone who went to the grocery store and never came back.
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What's a dad? Well... it's the male parental figure. The second half of the average straight family, other than the first half being the mom, the female parental figure.
Got the M1 MBA the day it went onsale. Absolutely love it. After years of inflated claims by Apple about performance this one actually lives up to and in some ways surpasses those claims. Pretty great. MY first Mac since the iMac G5.
You never owned an Intel Mac?
I wish I could find a good iMac G5, as I've always wanted to mess around with the last generation of Apple's PowerPC. FUN FACT: PowerPC and ARM are very similar in the fact that they are both a RISC architecture (Reduced Instruction Set Computer) compared to x86, being CISC (Complex Instruction Set Computer)
@@sriramsundar8388 The ports are nice for sure, it was great for it's time.
And how great was that iMac G5 right?
Apple with the rumored 32 core arm processor:
“This isn’t even my final form”
Amd with rumored 96core chip : "Our battle will be legendary"
there is a chinese arm soc with 132 or 138 cores..so yep,the arm era has begun
@@flushroyal970
apple : with the m1x chipset
Amd : with the threadripper series
Intel: considering killing themselves
the M1 is even just 4cores. 4performance and 4 ultra efficiency cores. so if you got well... 16performance core and 16 efficience cores....
@@flushroyal970 Now that's a bit too unreasonable. 69core chips
Linus said "Arm wrestling" and I involuntarily blurted out, alone in my bedroom, "That was a good one"
That’s why he makes the big bucks.
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Everyone who laughed at that can’t denies they’re huge needs
@@alexandersorto7411 I def have huge needs
Me too brother, me too
“Sponsour”
Finally, Linus can speak full Canadian
Also, Qualcumm
kwal cum
Is it pronounced cwall cum or qcwall.com
qouahll kwoum
Lmao. Windows Running on a Mac VM is better than Windows running on Surface.
Microsoft is a circus
Did Microsoft make the chips in surface devices?
@@nakdickson No. They bought them.
@@cybertari so why's MS taking the blame?
@@nakdickson Because they're responsible for creating a Windows Version that works well with ARM processors. And usually Surface products are known for delivering the best Windows experience...until now. Since Apple M1 Computers get better performance with non-native Windows virtualization than their surface products get with native windows, it goes to show that Microsoft has a long way to go to catch up with the competition. And it's also embarassing for them to know that Windows (ARM only) runs better on a Mac.
@@cybertari you point is so invalid. If windows on works better on M1 than ARM. Then that should indicate that ARM processors are not as good as M1 not a windows problem.
so Windows 10 is not the last version of Windows?
Microsoft lied to us.
Yes
I mean... windows 10 for ARM is the same as Windows 10 Home/Pro/Workstation/Server, just maybe with different features. just like their Home/Pro/Workstation/Server versions
@B dab but with different variants of Windows 10
project windows core,aka windows 10X
@B dab seems like you have not read their marketing when they released it.
I'm still amazed they can do all this on such low wattage, and even though it doesn't scale linearly, I really wanna see bigger ARM chips in the future at higher wattage.
ARM starts to lose a bit of its efficiency when scaled to a larger die, though thats not arms biggest problem right now. Arm designed laptops biggest problem right now is having enough lanes for peripherals (storage, graphics and any add in card functionality). Because laptops don't need the extra lanes as much, laptops are viable but it is likely not viable for desktop replacements in its current state.
One thing that helps is that Apple’s ARM machines are completely integrated and locked down. You can’t even upgrade the RAM. So they can fine-tune everything to work exactly right with everything else, without the need to worry about a range of possible hardware configurations.
they are around and probably becoming more common soon with all cloud providers trying to catch up to AWS graviton2 chips (which did already beat intel's performance for less money months ago on AWS) plus nuvia saying they have something better than m1 and nvidia buying arm and trying so hard to get a super computer contract using it...
@Christopher Grant not trying to hurt anyone's feelings or say intel is dead... topic was about arm evolution... my point it that it's gaining traction in sectors that demand more and change fast. Quite a few players are throwing money at/trying to sell the idea, down the line this will reach us.
For my case, aws, it's very very attractive, since you save good money without much effort... I see their competitors trying to get to it too and this competition leads to innovation.
Linus' face whenever he is about to segway to a sponsor is so predictable after watching so many of his videos
Just how cold is it in Canada that people have to wear beanies while being inside?
@@dnoodspodu1159 they are stylish tho
segue :)!
he's not cold, just having a long hair
that is what I pay youtube premium for ¬¬
_"People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware."_
- Alan Kay
When Linus showed performance of windows running in VM on the Mac VS native Windows... IT MADE ME LAUGH LMAOOO
And a beta version of a VM at that.
Microsoft can't really do things right... Just look at their VR headsets too (mixed reality)
@@yohaanpatel2736 which has a severe shortage of exclusives
@@yohaanpatel2736 most if not all of them are all available on PCs
I LOL’ed at this, too.
Hey, competition is good!
But I hope everything goes to ARM soon.
Windows’ Intel emulation on ARM is shit, though. You’d think they’d be intimately familiar with Intel by now given how they’ve been fucking married to them for literally dozens of years
"it sucked so bad that i forgot it had ever existed"
well, it does have X in the title 😏
@@em0_tion well I understand your reasoning
Everyone to Intel: The future is now, old architecture
@Muhammad Rafif there's a rumor that AMD is actually already prototyping their own ARM chip back in 2014 but stopped in 2017 (I think because of Ryzen) and also rumor that AMD started to look back to the project recently because of the rise of the ARM chips
@@n_core So basically AMD stopped innovating as well and they are just followers. In that case, I'll dig a grave for AMD and Intel as well.
@@diavalus people dont care if they are only "follower". If the arm processor of amd is competetive you wont have to dig a grave for them.
@@affectedrl5327 Then if Intel will come out with an ARM design, they will be fine as well. Besides, as far as I remember, AMD business is based on following instead of innovating. That's how the company started.
@@diavalus yeah ofcourse. If the product is good they will be fine. Intel isnt fine at the moment because they offered mediocre products for a high price over years.
Linus' sponsorship ads are actually skippable by seeking exactly 10 seconds from the moment he says "sponsor".
Sponsor. Code word for tapping right twice.
@@janakpatel6936 hmmm very interesting
Commies
@@janakpatel6936 hmmmmmmmmm interesting af
@@letmetranslate4249 🇺🇸, right? 🤨
That virtualized Windows machine running on the M1 BEATING the native Windows machine kills me in the best way
it's not beating native windows. watch the video again.
Shows how terrible Qualcomm ARM is IMO. It's pretty much the same story on Android too...they just fall so flat compared to Apples smartphone chips. Let's see if MS own chips can close the gape...if they put the effort in.
@@marceelino it did lol 7:03. ARM windows being virtualized on the M1 beats ARM windows running natively on the SQ2
@@thechemtrailkid those results are weird as Android phones are having higher scores in geek bench than that windows
@@marceelino its not weird that the Apple machine beat the Microsoft one since it is much, much more powerful
Classic example of how no one, even Microsoft, really cares about anything until Apple does it
What are you smoking.... Microsoft has been doing it way before apple. Its more of a classic example of what happens when you don't make your own chips and have to rely to third party manufacturers.
Let me fix your comment:
No one notices that Microsoft is doing something until Apple starts doing it and calls it an innovation.
@@wta1518 The innovation is that the cheaper "Apple Version" actually has more performance than the more expensive Windows version. Most people don't bother if someone built something similar before, they just bother if it runs good and if it has enough performance to satisfy their needs.
@@wta1518 it’s not innovation if it sucks and no one likes it
@@wta1518 Keep smoking that Microsoft crystal meth, you are hilarious! It must really really hurt to see these vids eh! The M1 is literally innovation. That Surface Pro wouldn't have got past Apple's quality control in a million years. A company making something first that's a pile of shite is anything but innovative, all it is is still just a pile of shite that no one in their right mind would pay 1600 dollars for
I honestly feel like I've fallen into a parallel reality seeing how much Linus actually loves the new Apple Silicon transition. I'm really glad Apple was able to pull this off, and honestly pumped to see what the M1X and M2 chips look like as they continue this rollout, because the next year or two for Apple could be absolutely mind blowing.
*M1 Max and M1 Pro
@@random-accessmemory9201 they hadn’t been announced when the comment was written. No need to correct them.
@@JasonZakrajsek Yeah i know. I also know that was the rumored name of the chips before. That’s why I’m correcting (updating) the name of the chips now.
the fact that apple doesn’t even seem to be trying yet still managed to absolutely smash everyone else...
You know Apple only sells software so they can sell hardware, right? Of course they mop the floor with everyone else!
I mean they have been trying, it's been a decade leading up to this. They just took the long route and it really paid off.
@@techgeeknzl your point is quite redundant, you know Microsoft also makes it's own software and hardware right? It's called windows and they literally made their own hardware for it called the microsoft surface and worked with qualcomm to make a custom chip. And the mac running WINDOWS, still beat the Microsoft machine running windows. No excusw.
@@default2826 yes, but the difference is that Apple has always been first and foremost a hardware company. They've been doing this since the seventies, so they ought to know what they're doing by now.
By contrast; Microsoft has always been a software company, and actually loses money on most of the hardware they license their name to.
@@techgeeknzl What are you even on about?? Apple has been a hardware company when it comes to their phones and ipads mostly. In the computer world they used to run on intel cpus since 2005/2006 and were mostly focusing on their software side of business. Just because they started with the M1 recently, they're "hardware creators" all of a sudden? We're talking computers here so cross the phones and tablets out of the equation. The fact that they've never had their own chip before and now all of a sudden they come up with a masterpiece it's truly astonishing. They ashamed intel AND microsoft, because my audio production plugins and project sessions run more smoothly on my new MacBook Pro than on my i9 9900k workstation. And i've been a Windows guy for the last 2 decades, today i've bought my first M1MBP and i didn't pull the trigger till today because i never liked the intel based macbooks due to Thermalthrottling and fan noise which on my M1 MBP it's totally fanless unless i stress the laptop in brutal 100% benchmarking for more than 10 minutes. You how no idea how much this laptop is offering for the money. It's the first time ever when Apple offers more for the money than the Windows counterpart. It used to be the other way around.
"My condolences, Intel"
It was about time. You won't be missed Intel
It will be missed, AMD has already started to increase a lot the price of their CPUs. We can only hope Intel will have a powerful comeback.
@@enrico9665 Not really, in fact AMD basically designed the x64-86/ x64/32 architectures that we take for granitite today.
@@razzledev 1) granted, not granitite. Granitite is a type of granite.
2) you completely missed the point of what they were trying to say.
...and welcome to the party, AMD! (I wonder If AMD will make an ARM processer just to show up Apple)
@@BellCube Ehmmm the K12.. ehmm... the sibling from the same father Jim Keller lol
I have mastered the art of skipping 20 seconds at the perfect time so it drops me at the end of the intro
If you are a regular viewer It's like a reflect
Lmao look at these bots
lol same
I watch the intro and when the ad comes up i tap --> key twice and it goes right to the end of that little music sequence.
Three taps on android, it's not that difficult.
i think we're seeing a Steve Jobs level move, by his elected CEO.
Stop the Steve Jobs cult, he wasn't a good guy.
@@realkrzaku Who said he was a good guy. He was smart and knew how to use the tools and people he had to create revolutionary devices.
@@realkrzaku he wasn't a good guy, he was the GOAT!
@@alphazar Amen?
@@realkrzaku what did he do?
I still think it's crazy that we are seeing this type of performance from M1, their low-end "budget" chip. What's going to happen once we see their Pro-level chips? Gonna be an interesting next few years in the CPU space that's for sure.
Spoiler alert: M1 Pro and M1 Max are ASTONISHING.
@@fricavvegas M1 Ultra joins the chat
@@watintarnation9801 yup…
It’s over 9000 and double the size
Rosetta 2 is amazing. Apple developer team did a brilliant job
I wonder what’s to come with M2
@@OneDerscoreOneder I think people do tend to misinterpreted M1 capabilities.
The ARM design has huge capabilities in terms of power efficiency. That's why it's performance is great in thin and light laptop's and also in specialized server environments.
As always there is a price to pay and that's raw horsepower and flexibility. X86 CISC instructions offer far more capabilities, which ARM can't execute. That's why X86 won't loose to ARM like it's suggested in lots of reviews out there. X86 just has a new competitor in the thin and light low power compute sector. In complex executions ARM will loose because of its RISC based architecture.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidauthority.com/arm-vs-x86-key-differences-explained-568718/amp/
Ah, apple vs microsoft : the age old rivalry.
Except this time it is lopsided
@@MrSal445 It's not that simple. We simply cannot ignore software in this argument.
@@MrSal445 isn’t Rosetta doing a lot of heavy lifting though? Qualcomm chips for mobile phones are very competitive with Apple silicon, it always comes down to the software that makes the huge difference in Apple devices.
You can't compare phones to laptops. Apple software is optimized for specific hardware, a luxury that most phone manufacturers share.
That's not to say we can't call out Microsoft for a underwhelming product. But, you really can't compare performance between phones and laptops.
"Only using apps with native arm and don't do anything intensive you ~~can~~ have a normal use" is not what I would pay 1600 dollars for.
Totally get your point, this is expensive for what it is. But I don't think it's fair to say that all emulated software runs like crap on Windows - I use a tool called WinMerge quite a lot, it's just as fast on the Pro X running emulated x64 as my Surface Book 2 i7 - Granted it's a fairly simple app that is CPU not GPU intensive at all, but it runs great, same with a lot of software.
Compare that to x86 Visual Studio 2019 which takes an age to get going (runs "OK" once you're loaded into a project) and you do notice how slow emulation of some software is. I think WoA has a problem with emulation of GPU intensive x86 apps, pretty sure I read shortly after it's release that for emulated apps all graphics rendering is software based, but could be wrong.
I don't use Chrome on any of my devices, but I know some picky people who've used Chrome emulated on Pro X and didn't complain, I'd expect them to right away if they noticed a performance issue. Hope that the emulation will improve but would have preferred some real-world comparisons for this video rather than just benchmark apps
Thank you for producing this. I have the Surface X and think Microsoft ripped everyone off on it. No 64bit. You can't even run a native copy of DropBox. It's a scam.
I'm so happy I didn't pull the trigger on getting one a few years ago.
how do you feel about it now ??
@@771shadowolf With Windows 11, it works much better. That said, you pay a price for having the low-power chip. It's slower. The Surface Pro 8 is much faster, but doesn't have LTE built in.
@@TenantRepGuru what about x64 emulation? any updates?
@@lucasarcanjo887 I think they added x64 on all SQ series chips in Windows 11, it's only an update away.
Man I feel like Qualcomm is still trying to catch up since the A7
Honestly that has been my real takeaway from the M1 Qualcomm is trash and so far behind
@@Chunkosaurus Yup apple pulled far ahead with the 64bit a series chips and qualcomm has played catch up ever since
Qualcomm is garbage and only propped up by the fact they shut down all of their competition early on. We have known for years that they are the cause of bad performance, heat profiles, throttling issues, battery life issues on Android and everything else. They need to be dropped like bad eggs.
Qualcomm don't develop their own processor. They take off the shelf arm design, tinker here and there and slap cryo on its name. Until arm develop a serious desktop processor, we will always get shitty processors.
Which makes it hard for Windows. ARM Windows can only run on Qualcomm-family chips, not on ARM chips from anybody else. Unlike Linux.
running windows vm in a mac always felt pretty smooth.
Here we are 2 years later and Windows on ARM is still spectacularly horrendous.
And windows 11 is getting worse, yay adware and bloatwsre
7:37
linus if you change Mac Book air SSD to 256GB to match Surface pro X then its a 400 dollers difference.
@@applesilicon6863 Waiting for 16" pro is also a good option
@@Syuvinya when though?
@@jameltanderson shouldn't be too long, the 16inch needs an update.
linus is becoming a cesspool of misinformation..
@@yes-vy6bn ok?
It goes to show that expanding your brand too far can lead to having less influence in the market. Apple has a very small lineup of product compared to every other tech brand, so when they make a change, the entire industry has to adapt. When Microsoft makes a change to their computers, people will just buy something else that doesn't have that change.
I like nintendo
@@Hchris101 you shouldn't because of people like you they can overprice any garbage and you would pay for it
5:17, I didn’t know Geekbench used FPS as a score.
Lmao
Woweee 7.5k fps!!??
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
lol
nice find!
That wallpaper though 😂😂😂. You are just brilliant!
4:17 I'm loving the goofy over-acting from Riley in the B-Roll here.
"its not a beanie, its a toque" great words said by linus tech tips
"The Arm Architecture has finally arrived on a desktop operating system."
*Frustrated Linux Noises*
No if you go debian/fedora/manjaro
Imagine what Microsoft can do if they open up the Xbox for video editing...
@@josearaujo8616 There would be an even lower supply of consoles, not something people need right now
@@davidfodre1375 I mean, they don’t NEED a console at all lol
What about the Acorn Archimedes series 😁🤣🤣
“People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware”
Alan K
MS was never serious about anything
It's very well known that Apple is a hardware company, and they always have been; they only write and sell software because the hardware is largely useless without it.
BASED
We've seen Windows 10's rollout, we know how Microsoft can screw up.
Windows 8... Vista...
@@MiGujack3 came here to say the same win10 was their smoothest in years lol. That's not a very high bar to set. But still.
@@svenesven8703 Do you not remember they forced the upgrade to win10 on win7/8/8.1? It was the most disastrous releave ever by microsoft, youre litteraly wrong
Just install Windows 10X on a MacBook
@@madr1x ummm anything is an upgrade from Windows 7 lol. The free upgrade was mostly painless for me.
3:58 you can literally see how smooth the macbook zooms in, while on windows its laggy as hell...
Yeah I saw it too
The 60 FPS crowd would *actually* love MacOS on M1. It refuses to drop frames. I can drop frames just by Win+Tab'ing on my Intel Ice Lake laptop on battery 😂 😭
I love all the great laptop reviews and showcases lately, it's awesome to see the newest desktop hardware and all but it's nice to see LTT give some love to the thin and light laptop enthusiasts! Keep up the great work!
M1 is the new big thing we all been waiting for years.
"The ARM architecture has finally arrived on the desktop?" The ARM architecture was on MY desktop in 1987, with the Archimedes. A glorious machine, far ahead of its time.
The arm strikes back i guess 😁
Lots of Products back in the 80s where Genious, ARM inside #Acorn #Archimedes and for shure the #commodore #amiga , for the Amiga there is Stil new OS in work After 35 years, myself have all Amigas ever built😍
Acorn and Amiga were seriously underrated. If only Commodore's marketing department wasn't utterly incompetent, things would be a _lot_ different today 🤔
Edit: and I believe RISCOS containers to exist in one form or another.
Intel be like: “I’m in danger”
Not really
@@carholic-sz3qv they have a few years to figure things out, but they can’t continue how they currently are. In terms of market share they’ve been dominating for the last decade, but their processors are really falling behind in the desktop, laptop, and server/enterprise spaces. AMD has gained a lot of market share for desktop CPUs. Intel’s market share in the laptop space is at risk because of these M1 Macs and AMD’s more efficient Ryzen chips. Their enterprise chips offer many more cores for the price. If Intel doesn’t do anything they will end up in trouble.
@@eduardobragaxz well Intel certainly knows more about processors than I do, so they probably had a logical reason. From my understanding both architectures have their strengths and weaknesses. They didn’t see the weaknesses of the ARM architecture being suitable for desktop use, so they never tried it. Perhaps Apple found a new strength after they continued developing their ARM architecture processors for phones which allowed them create such a strong performer for a laptop.
@@eduardobragaxz What it really comes down to is support. Microsoft has to take the step for everyone and bring a chip, an OS, and some way to help people transition from x86 to have ARM take off. Intel can't just create 30 core 120 thread ARM processor and sell it for anything. What OS are you going to run it on, Windows ARM? That up until recently, couldn't really run anything beyond Microsofts hardware? Even that wouldn't be enough to paint the picture to OEM's to follow suit.
Microsoft has to paint the picture for everyone, and show everyone why its better. Intel won't take that financial risk with so little support, so Microsoft has to make the chip, show legacy software working, and show everyone that ARM will be better for everyone in the medium to long run.
@@tylerlovesmacs Absolutely correct, Intel and Microsoft would have to work together if Windows on ARM is going to gain any traction. That’s Apple’s advantage with M1, they don’t sell an OS, a processor or just an assembly of parts, they sell a product.
During that time at the linux fundation :
"Are they still trying to get things working on ARM?"
Ok, if you run this 90 word long command, we found out that 2 programs work but the system crashes.
@@bernardo-x5n auto completion is your friend, no need to enter all the 90 words! Plus you can write scripts! And many more things!
Linux install you must!
Yoda
@@bernardo-x5n Please read what you write before posting it.
I'm absolutely in love with my M1 Macbook Air. It's my home computer that I use for emails, photo editing, and just browsing while on the couch. I've had it unplugged since last Wednesday (8 days now..). I was so confident in the battery life I took it on a trip without the charger and watched almost 5 hours of movies on it, lots of email and web browsing, and it's still at 35%.... my previous 2018 MacBook Pro would have been dead shortly after the movies. Very excited to see what the future brings...
I wish Steve Jobs was still here to see all of this.
steve jobs would never let arm macs
He'd be P I S S E D about apple prices
He'd love the MacBook Air being fanless, I know that! Jobs was all about quiet computers.
Steve Jobs would flip his lid if he saw this, he would say everything should be touchscreen.
@liquify how about the W H E E L S
I love that background on the mac!
I feel ripped off when I bought that 2015 surface.
I almost made that same mistake, but luckily bought the surface pro 3 instead and it still works great. The salesman was really pushing the surface 3 but when he told me it was a non x86 device and everything would have to come from the Microsoft store, I legitimately laughed in his face
Almost got thr first model for 100€ but like Windows arm... Fuk that
I feel sad for you. Jumped on the windows mobile bandwagon and got abandoned. I know the feels
at least it did get jailbreak so you could use some stuff on it. I'd keep my 11 inch Lenovo Yoga RT if linux had been released for it but that never happened.
I bought a Surface Pro 4 a few years ago. Now the battery is bloated and damaged the display, and is a potential fire hazard. Microsoft Support basically told me to fuck off. I hate Microsoft. Of all the Tech-Giants they are clearly the least competent and worst for user experience.
Could we get a late 2022 update on this? There's ARM builds of a lot of popular windows apps now :)
Man watching this on a M1 Mac makes me feel like I definitely made the right choice on a laptop
Same lol
Bro is the battery life good and can it run all apps
same here
definitely a great decision
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Why is your hand so tiny in the thumbnail? Linus “Take my strong” TechTips over here.
7:20 do them dirty, in front of they friends.
We need an update comparaison now !
Damn 20 seconds ago youtube doing notifications right for once
"Glorified Chromebook"
-Ouch
"Intel is working on an in-house processing chip"
Wait...
hahaha
I know, it's a shocker... not just using their fading monopolistic power.
Haha, optimised for what?
They don’t even build any computers or operating system.
@@NoHandle690 well it said "in-house", so I think that means it's optimized for using indoors - where there is an AC plug.
another 5 years so so!
It’s almost like Microsoft released it without software ready again, just like the surface rt
Until now Windows on ARM still just a toy for QEMU and Raspberry Pi users 😂
"lets explore that right after I read you some more words from our sponsororore" *rolls intro*
Well… Now that Desktops are running on ARM, I can stop speculating about how awesome it will be. In fact, it's practically mainstream now, so my hipster soul demands I move on.
How about a sweet RISC5 desktop CPU and Operating System combo?
Damn that was an insider information right there :D
Legitimately looking forward to this ARMs race.
I used to work in IT for a major corporation and my team was responsible for bringing in new hardware. The powers that be refused to use anything except Surface Pros. The latest one had so many random issues that simply shouldn’t be problems, we re-issued them SP4s until we can convince them to use other 2 in 1s or switch to laptops.
The slightly audible chuckle in the background after Linus says, "these words from the teleprompter" at 40 seconds must be the script writer for the episode. 0:35
For me Windows has been the "if I *have* to use it OS" (gaming) for many many years.
*Everything* else is better in MacOS and/or Linux. For example programming on Windows is painful, except in some edge cases.
Can u throw more light on your "painful programming experience" using Windows OS
I'm guessing you haven't tried it since they release WSL2 and Terminal. I'm a DevOps Engineer and It's amazing now. Actual Linux would obviously be better but if you don't have that choice then you really can just whichever of Windows or OSX you prefer. OSX isn't perfect, it's BSD versions of applications do not always work the same way as they do for Linux (looks at sed).
Personally, I prefer actual Linux running on Windows to the uncanny valley of OSX, but that doesn't mean it's right for everyone.
3:31 literally ARM wrestling lol
Can we all appreciate how he used Mac book AIR of all macs to demolish Microsoft
It took me 3 minutes to realize what was going on with the Mac's wallpaper
It was in the previous videos
7:30
Linus stop! You're Beating a dead horse at this point!
8:34 Firefox was already ARM-native on Linux, and has been for a fairly long time.
Arm is like the only browser that is still alone in the sea of browsers. All other known brands are Chromium based, aka Google. So, Google is essentially hampering all that ARM development.
@@Helveteshit You probably mean that Firefox, not Arm, is like the only browser that is still alone in the sea of browsers.
Apple has never stood still with their chips, even though they could have. You have to remember that the M1 is not in any high-end machines. What happens when they design silicon for that?
In the words of great Vikings from httyd 1 “all hell breaks lose ........”
“And my undies good thing I brought extras”
Well.
I'd love to see this revisited once the ARM version of Windows makes it to full release.
Microsoft: Stop the count!
I was literally watching LTT video when this just dropped so I'm here
Bought the original surface and really wanted to love it. I sold it around a later when I seen what direction they’d go with RT.
Intel: use a fans to cool your cpu
Apple:use a CPU to cool your fan
Edit: Thank you for 💯 likes
what?
@@generalginger7804 it’s a joke...
The macbook air didnt have a fan becaus e it was useless anyway
This should be a meme
@@sherilydaniel6690 seriously, you could probably remove the fan from the Intel Macbook Air and still be within single digits perf. dif. The fan was barely cooling anything.
0:45 French Linus telling us about “Sponsieur”s now.
Oui
I heard his pirate alter ego slipping though: Sponsaarrrrr.
Linus really trying to avoid eating his own words from his Apple keynote video
"how did Microsoft screw this up?"
"It's Microsoft"
LMAOAOA
Ask the Zune how it’s doing today? Lol
@@bryanmiller476 laughs in Lumia.
Firefox already has had arm version for windows and linux since long time. M1 just made them release one for mac os
Firefox is opensource, so you can in theory compile it for what ever architecture you want
@@tordjarv3802 in theory any company could compile even their proprietary code for whatever architecture they want. It is however not as trivial since a long list of bugs did need to be resolved in case of firefox before it became usable for windows and linux ARM
Pretty much every app you can get on Linux has an ARM native version. Linux is leagues ahead of apple and microsoft's OSs in this way
@@shauryakalia3296 Yes they can compile it for what ever architecture they want, but you can't compile it for what ever architecture you want, because it is proprietary. Yes, bugs could potentially emerge but with free software you are free to try to solve them yourself, with proprietary not so much.
@@tordjarv3802 My point was to rebuke the indication that your comment gives that a native ARM version of firefox was a trivial thing.