Never been a bigger fan of Tiger than me even before he turned pro. It's done and I'm over it. The timing of Tiger being done and LIV starting was the perfect storm at least for me. He carried the PGA Tour forever. Now it's a borefest and I've moved on. The PGA Championship was excellent but I only watched featured group coverage each day. Watching Bryson and Viktor Saturday and Sunday was an absolute pleasure. There is no way I can take a CBS broadcast or NBC broadcast after watching every LIV event. Just golf shot after golf shot for 4.5 hours is so refreshing
Love you guys, but do a fact check, Tiger did not win at Pinehurst. That being said he should play Champions tour when he’s fifty and ride off into the sunset on a golf cart. Cheers
Tiger has earned the right to have his own extra spot at any tournament he wants. Do feel he can still compete just seems rusty on the touch and feel shots. Was staying with and even out driving many of his competitors all week at the masters
Listen Tiger is controlling the narrative. Look at the stats. No iron play, no chipping and no putting. He will not play at a high level unless he practices like he used to and he can’t.
It's been 4 years where he only plays 3 events or less per year. He hasn't been in the top 25 in any of them. In 2021, he played zero majors. His stats on his last 6 majors are 47th, WD, CUT, WD, 60th, CUT. That's not just bad, it's devastating. When he won in 2019, he came in second in the previous major and T6 before that. He's showing zero sign of competing right now. When he plays, he looks like he's in real pain. He's done.
He needs good weather, It was rainy as fuck and cold in the last few Majors that he didn't make the cut in. His body won't be feeling great in those conditions compared to the young guns where rain is just a nuisance. If we get to see clear warmer weather Majors, I have no doubt he will do heaps better and contend, we see he had the length and the shots.
Tiger will win again. A few years of not winning is not a sign that he won't win again. He could easily come back in 5 years time with some new technology operation on his back/leg, put in 12 months practice and win another Masters or Open. He still has a lot more time than people realise. Tom Watson nearly won The Open at 59. Times have changed but if anyone can do it, Tiger can. I like watching him play even when he's playing 'badly'. Plenty players disappear for a while and don't get the coverage, and then come back. We don't debate whether they can come back. Because we're not shown them. Tiger will rise again!!!!
Norman never wanted to do the champions tour it is admitting you are on the way out, Tiger will be the same. Tiger has shown it is not about length off the tee, it is about day in day out grind sharpness and timing, he has nothing to prove, so he wont do it. If they wheel him out to watch him miss cuts for ratings it will be like watching Ali getting beaten up by Holmes sorry to say, and not the way to end a legend. Ali probably thought he could win as well.
Yes, It was rainy as fuck and cold in the last few Majors that he didn't make the cut in. His body won't be feeling great in those conditions compared to the young guns where rain is just a nuisance. If we get to see clear warmer weather Majors, I have no doubt he will do heaps better and contend, we see he had the length and the shots.
Your dreaming here the injury of the leg back and age are too much to over come Golf stamina is lacking this is a real factor without tourney reps its asking too much
He deserves every chance if he qualifies for the event. He still looks dangerous from time to time. I still wouldnt count him out for a few more top 5 finishes, maybe even a win or two especially places like augusta where he can utilize experience.
Tiger has more than earned his special exemptions into these tournaments. How is it any different then Jack, Player, etc playing in these when they where well past the point of being able to compete.
Tiger should play limited golf until hes 50. Then he should just go on the champions tour. Imagine what he could do for that tour? I'm sure he won't do it because his ego is so massive he doesn't want to believe he's an old man, but he is. Three rounds of golf instead of four. Get to use a cart. That's what he should do but we'll see.
Nobody is excited to see a golfer gimping around during warmups. Gary Player moves around more fluidly than Tiger. Who are people kidding? He needs to play to promote his new apparel brand. Investors want him out there. It’s a joke at this point.
Full disclosure, not a Tiger fan, and even less of the media deepthroating every time he plays. And while I won't comment on whether he should or should not be getting exemptions into majors, I would just ask this question: two days ago an American won his first major, playing four terrific rounds, so why are you (or anyone else, for that matter) talking about someone who hasn't won in 5 years? The spotlight should be on the winner of the tournament and those that challenged him at the end, not the has been who isn't playing competitively right now and missed the cut by 8 shots. At some point, the PGA Tour needs to show what it has minus Tiger to goose attendance/ratings, because trust me, the sponsors are wondering. Continuing to make excuses (it was rainy, it was hilly, etc.) is just deluding yourself further.
As a new golfer, all the tiger talk when he is playing is really boring. It's been 5 years since his last win and he is still limping from the crash. I agree though that when he is miced up and messing about in practise he is quite fun
Tiger is the reason I started playing. But, as a fan, I say and said a year ago, he is done. He has no more wins left in him. There are too many players on the field who are way better. He can't just play in majors once a month and expect to be any good. His body may not be allowing him
I think he can get another Major and another PGA event. He won't win another PGA Championship because the field becomes at its strongest in this major due to the moderate courses. The Masters and British Major (where he can hit it low a lot) are most likely but I think the US Open, due to the very difficult courses making the broad field falter, can't be completely ruled out. In terms of age, Phil Mickelson himself will likely play to his later 50's although in 24' there has been a real dearth of performance. I think Tiger can play to mid 50's.
I think he needs competitive rounds under his belt. Winning events might be too far but he can still compete... But if you can't walk you can't compete
Good discussion guys , and I agree with most of what your saying , The PGA tours need Tiger to boost ratings 100%, thurs and fri are the low hanging fruit days , so easiest way to increase viewers on those days by having Tiger in the field , as for long term , I think the TGL is the only place he will be competitive, his body is wrecked and needs constant PED’s just to keep going , he won’t ever win again on regular tour events again , all the greats new when it was time to go , Tiger just can’t accept this , and unfortunately he is a very one dimensional guy, Norman , Jack , Arnold and Gary all had other things to fall back on , his golf architecture business hasn’t set the world on fire , so not sure if that will be his legacy going forward
As for realistic winning yes. He will play in the majors and possibly 2-3 other main events next 2-3 years at best and then that’s it. Don’t think he has any interest in the Champions tour. Pinehurst is hot and humid and this physically is an issue for him. I predict he misses the cut again. Believe the Open Championship and The Masters will be his best opportunities going forward.
Tiger is DONE. 😅 Hell never contend again. He’s not lying when he said he thinks he can win, it’s just that he delusional. The tour needs him to show face and that’s about it. Social media also relies on him alot for posts.
People are so ignorant. Can you not see tiger is looking more and more healthy by the day? He still has shots no one else has. Tiger will win again within A year (ish). I was actually very satisfied with what I saw.
I would humbly suggest you google : "Complete list of Tiger Woods surgeries". He's crippled and pushing 50. Cut back on the dispensary weed, lad. lmfao
@@tomdee3981I lived through all of tigers surgeries. I’m well aware of all of them. I’ve seen many recaps of the list as well. Tiger made the cut at the Masters. Even if he can never win again, making masters cuts does not mean one should just go away.
There are ZERO signs he's getting better. He only plays 1 to 3 majors per year. He rarely plays anything else. He's made a single cut in the past 5 majors and he ended up dead last when he did make the cut. Every stat says he can't compete.
Tiger is still a draw for the tour, that equates to $$$$. It’s his call, he’ll be around to help promote his clothing line. I hope he goes out on his terms and with respect.
It's hard watch him in the rain, It was rainy as fuck and cold in the last few Majors that he didn't make the cut in. His body won't be feeling great in those conditions compared to the young guns where rain is just a nuisance. If we get to see clear warmer weather Majors, I have no doubt he will do heaps better and contend, we see he had the length and the shots.
"There's a time to show them, and a time to close them". He's playing for marketing his clothing line, and golf courses. At the expense of tarnishing his well earned image. Retire with grace; I say.
It was rainy as fuck and cold in the last few Majors that he didn't make the cut in. His body won't be feeling great in those conditions compared to the young guns where rain is just a nuisance. If we get to see clear warmer weather Majors, I have no doubt he will do heaps better and contend, we see he had the length and the shots.
The problem with Tiger is he’s trying to beat too many things. The media wants him to be the nice guy and smile more. That’s not who his father raised him to be tiger is still good enough to win. All he hast to do is Cee ball hit ball he over complicates things this little nerd mentality that he and his son has gone on this sickening just play golf Ball hit the ball. You’re good enough to hit it to the 150 from any Teebox take an hour to the Green to get out of there to make the birdie that’s better. He’s in his own head. He’s worried about what people thinks of him. You’re not the first guy to get caught cheating many many years ago You lost your young man you’re not playing like the man who your father raised you to be.
Another athlete who doesn't know when to give it up. Willie May's in 1973, just a shell of himself, embarrassing. Maybe Tigers kid should tell him it's over dad, give it up.
1. You can't expect to be game ready practicing in your backyard. 2. Yall need to move on. Tiger continues to let everyone down. He is about a 6 year train wreck. Golf needs to hitch its wagon to players that can win. Joe six pack isn't watching as much golf as they were because now they're playing more.
Never been a bigger fan of Tiger than me even before he turned pro. It's done and I'm over it. The timing of Tiger being done and LIV starting was the perfect storm at least for me. He carried the PGA Tour forever. Now it's a borefest and I've moved on. The PGA Championship was excellent but I only watched featured group coverage each day. Watching Bryson and Viktor Saturday and Sunday was an absolute pleasure. There is no way I can take a CBS broadcast or NBC broadcast after watching every LIV event. Just golf shot after golf shot for 4.5 hours is so refreshing
👏💯☝️ twins! Perfectly said.
agree 100%
Love you guys, but do a fact check, Tiger did not win at Pinehurst.
That being said he should play Champions tour when he’s fifty and ride off into the sunset on a golf cart. Cheers
Tiger has earned the right to have his own extra spot at any tournament he wants. Do feel he can still compete just seems rusty on the touch and feel shots. Was staying with and even out driving many of his competitors all week at the masters
There’s always that 1% that believe he can do it. Just train for the Masters. He knows that course better than anyone.
Listen Tiger is controlling the narrative. Look at the stats. No iron play, no chipping and no putting. He will not play at a high level unless he practices like he used to and he can’t.
It's been 4 years where he only plays 3 events or less per year. He hasn't been in the top 25 in any of them. In 2021, he played zero majors. His stats on his last 6 majors are 47th, WD, CUT, WD, 60th, CUT. That's not just bad, it's devastating. When he won in 2019, he came in second in the previous major and T6 before that. He's showing zero sign of competing right now. When he plays, he looks like he's in real pain. He's done.
For Tiger to win he would need 72 holes of his A game and 100 other guys to play their C game. What are the odds of that happening?
He needs good weather, It was rainy as fuck and cold in the last few Majors that he didn't make the cut in.
His body won't be feeling great in those conditions compared to the young guns where rain is just a nuisance.
If we get to see clear warmer weather Majors, I have no doubt he will do heaps better and contend, we see he had the length and the shots.
There's another major left in him.
Tiger will win again. A few years of not winning is not a sign that he won't win again. He could easily come back in 5 years time with some new technology operation on his back/leg, put in 12 months practice and win another Masters or Open. He still has a lot more time than people realise. Tom Watson nearly won The Open at 59. Times have changed but if anyone can do it, Tiger can. I like watching him play even when he's playing 'badly'. Plenty players disappear for a while and don't get the coverage, and then come back. We don't debate whether they can come back. Because we're not shown them. Tiger will rise again!!!!
Norman never wanted to do the champions tour it is admitting you are on the way out, Tiger will be the same. Tiger has shown it is not about length off the tee, it is about day in day out grind sharpness and timing, he has nothing to prove, so he wont do it. If they wheel him out to watch him miss cuts for ratings it will be like watching Ali getting beaten up by Holmes sorry to say, and not the way to end a legend. Ali probably thought he could win as well.
Tiger needs hard ground, soft ground walking wise hurts him, you can see it as the week goes on.
Yes, It was rainy as fuck and cold in the last few Majors that he didn't make the cut in.
His body won't be feeling great in those conditions compared to the young guns where rain is just a nuisance.
If we get to see clear warmer weather Majors, I have no doubt he will do heaps better and contend, we see he had the length and the shots.
Your dreaming here the injury of the leg back and age are too much to over come
Golf stamina is lacking this is a real factor without tourney reps its asking too much
He deserves every chance if he qualifies for the event. He still looks dangerous from time to time. I still wouldnt count him out for a few more top 5 finishes, maybe even a win or two especially places like augusta where he can utilize experience.
Tiger has more than earned his special exemptions into these tournaments. How is it any different then Jack, Player, etc playing in these when they where well past the point of being able to compete.
You guys are dreaming. No way Tiger makes the cut at the US Open. No way!!!!
Tiger should play limited golf until hes 50. Then he should just go on the champions tour. Imagine what he could do for that tour? I'm sure he won't do it because his ego is so massive he doesn't want to believe he's an old man, but he is. Three rounds of golf instead of four. Get to use a cart. That's what he should do but we'll see.
Not going to happen. The champions tour is not motivating to him.
Nobody is excited to see a golfer gimping around during warmups. Gary Player moves around more fluidly than Tiger. Who are people kidding? He needs to play to promote his new apparel brand. Investors want him out there. It’s a joke at this point.
Full disclosure, not a Tiger fan, and even less of the media deepthroating every time he plays. And while I won't comment on whether he should or should not be getting exemptions into majors, I would just ask this question: two days ago an American won his first major, playing four terrific rounds, so why are you (or anyone else, for that matter) talking about someone who hasn't won in 5 years? The spotlight should be on the winner of the tournament and those that challenged him at the end, not the has been who isn't playing competitively right now and missed the cut by 8 shots. At some point, the PGA Tour needs to show what it has minus Tiger to goose attendance/ratings, because trust me, the sponsors are wondering. Continuing to make excuses (it was rainy, it was hilly, etc.) is just deluding yourself further.
As a new golfer, all the tiger talk when he is playing is really boring.
It's been 5 years since his last win and he is still limping from the crash.
I agree though that when he is miced up and messing about in practise he is quite fun
Tiger is the reason I started playing. But, as a fan, I say and said a year ago, he is done. He has no more wins left in him. There are too many players on the field who are way better. He can't just play in majors once a month and expect to be any good. His body may not be allowing him
I think he can get another Major and another PGA event.
He won't win another PGA Championship because the field becomes at its strongest in this major due to the moderate courses.
The Masters and British Major (where he can hit it low a lot) are most likely but I think the US Open, due to the very difficult courses making the broad field falter, can't be completely ruled out.
In terms of age, Phil Mickelson himself will likely play to his later 50's although in 24' there has been a real dearth of performance. I think Tiger can play to mid 50's.
I think he needs competitive rounds under his belt. Winning events might be too far but he can still compete... But if you can't walk you can't compete
Good discussion guys , and I agree with most of what your saying , The PGA tours need Tiger to boost ratings 100%, thurs and fri are the low hanging fruit days , so easiest way to increase viewers on those days by having Tiger in the field , as for long term , I think the TGL is the only place he will be competitive, his body is wrecked and needs constant PED’s just to keep going , he won’t ever win again on regular tour events again , all the greats new when it was time to go , Tiger just can’t accept this , and unfortunately he is a very one dimensional guy, Norman , Jack , Arnold and Gary all had other things to fall back on , his golf architecture business hasn’t set the world on fire , so not sure if that will be his legacy going forward
We were at no.2 when yall were there. 👍
Only Major Tiger could win is an Open championship (British) and only if its hard and fast.
As for realistic winning yes. He will play in the majors and possibly 2-3 other main events next 2-3 years at best and then that’s it. Don’t think he has any interest in the Champions tour. Pinehurst is hot and humid and this physically is an issue for him. I predict he misses the cut again. Believe the Open Championship and The Masters will be his best opportunities going forward.
Great video I think Tiger won’t give up because the accident he was in was self-inflicted basically and he’s trying to prove he can come back
Tiger is DONE. 😅 Hell never contend again. He’s not lying when he said he thinks he can win, it’s just that he delusional. The tour needs him to show face and that’s about it. Social media also relies on him alot for posts.
People are so ignorant. Can you not see tiger is looking more and more healthy by the day?
He still has shots no one else has. Tiger will win again within A year (ish). I was actually very satisfied with what I saw.
I would humbly suggest you google : "Complete list of Tiger Woods surgeries". He's crippled and pushing 50. Cut back on the dispensary weed, lad. lmfao
@@tomdee3981I lived through all of tigers surgeries. I’m well aware of all of them. I’ve seen many recaps of the list as well.
Tiger made the cut at the Masters.
Even if he can never win again, making masters cuts does not mean one should just go away.
There are ZERO signs he's getting better. He only plays 1 to 3 majors per year. He rarely plays anything else. He's made a single cut in the past 5 majors and he ended up dead last when he did make the cut. Every stat says he can't compete.
@@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 made the cut and came last
Just think... you don't get a John Daley with Tiger taking a spot.
YES.
Tiger is still a draw for the tour, that equates to $$$$. It’s his call, he’ll be around to help promote his clothing line. I hope he goes out on his terms and with respect.
Done
I am a tiger fan, but it’s hard to watch him .
It's hard watch him in the rain, It was rainy as fuck and cold in the last few Majors that he didn't make the cut in.
His body won't be feeling great in those conditions compared to the young guns where rain is just a nuisance.
If we get to see clear warmer weather Majors, I have no doubt he will do heaps better and contend, we see he had the length and the shots.
"There's a time to show them, and a time to close them". He's playing for marketing his clothing line, and golf courses. At the expense of tarnishing his well earned image. Retire with grace; I say.
It was rainy as fuck and cold in the last few Majors that he didn't make the cut in.
His body won't be feeling great in those conditions compared to the young guns where rain is just a nuisance.
If we get to see clear warmer weather Majors, I have no doubt he will do heaps better and contend, we see he had the length and the shots.
The problem with Tiger is he’s trying to beat too many things. The media wants him to be the nice guy and smile more. That’s not who his father raised him to be tiger is still good enough to win. All he hast to do is Cee ball hit ball he over complicates things this little nerd mentality that he and his son has gone on this sickening just play golf Ball hit the ball. You’re good enough to hit it to the 150 from any Teebox take an hour to the Green to get out of there to make the birdie that’s better. He’s in his own head. He’s worried about what people thinks of him. You’re not the first guy to get caught cheating many many years ago You lost your young man you’re not playing like the man who your father raised you to be.
Let the man play. We are all going to come and end. He has earned the respect to continue.
Another athlete who doesn't know when to give it up. Willie May's in 1973, just a shell of himself, embarrassing. Maybe Tigers kid should tell him it's over dad, give it up.
1. You can't expect to be game ready practicing in your backyard.
2. Yall need to move on. Tiger continues to let everyone down. He is about a 6 year train wreck. Golf needs to hitch its wagon to players that can win. Joe six pack isn't watching as much golf as they were because now they're playing more.
Click bait. You guys make it sound like this came from his mouth
It takes strength to hit shots from off the fairways. That's his game. The best putter whoever lived.