MOM CALLED SCHOOL BEFORE SH**TING?! Apalachee High Sh**ter's MOM CALLED WARNING The School
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The mother of the suspected Apalachee High School gunman told family members that she called the school on the morning of the shooting and warned a counselor about an “extreme emergency” involving her 14-year-old son, according to text messages obtained by The Washington Post and an interview with a family member.
That account is supported by a call log from the family’s shared phone plan, which shows a 10-minute call from the mother’s phone to the school starting at 9:50 a.m. - about a half-hour before witnesses have said the gunman opened fire.
“I was the one that notified the school counselor at the high school,” Marcee Gray texted her sister following the shooting on Sept. 4, according to a screenshot of the exchange. “I told them it was an extreme emergency and for them to go immediately and find [my son] to check on him.”
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The Sheriff and the GBI were SO fast to pay their backs during their press conference about how super fast the response was!!!! They did not want this out. In 2024 you best believe its going to get out. And it should! EVERY threat should be acted on immediately!!!
Exactly, and the Sheriff called a mother of a classmate a liar at the press conference (on national television) when she asked why they looked for the wrong kid first. Sounds like the mother was absolutely right, and the Sheriff was the one being deceptive.
If we're going to start charging parents we need to charge school officials who drop the ball too!
That school had two school resource officers, they should have been notified in that 30 minutes!
UNREAL! I'm lost for words to this senseless tragedy.
The grandmother also went in person and spoke to the counselor all the kids hated the counselor. They said she did the bare minimum . The counselor should go straight to prison because she could’ve probably prevented this. Thank you.
I agree
Wow sue them all!! This is horrific! 😢
And lose their jobs
This is so heartbreaking. :(
His Mom should have called the police maybe instead of the school? Of course all they had to do was pull the alarm & put the school on lockdown. If nothing happened & it was a false alarm then they just had a practice drill. No harm. My heart breaks for these families knowing this could have been prevented. 💔
Pull the alarm? So all the kids could go outside in one spot to be lined up as easy targets? 🙃 ummm. No.
May the families affected by this tragedy find relief from their pain and may those who lost their lives rest in peace.Im glad my kid's middle school takes treats of shooting very seriously. Greetings from Utah.
So many red flags ignored
telling the school to 'check on my son' is NOT saying there is a danger to others.
I completely agree it's all in how it was relayed and what all information was forthcoming at the time
Exactly !'
She doesn't to take responsibility. Why didn't she call the police before he went to school
I know it’s not the same BUT the School Counselor in the Crumbley case deemed that child “not a threat” to anyone or himself! WTH is happening with these schools?
Dont blame all on the schools, or was the weapon a present from them??No😢
There was so many failures in this situation and absolutely it could have been prevented and everyone should be held responsible imo!!!
I said it before and I’ll say it again. The system failed from the start. Our wonderful governor has allowed this to happen. You can get a gun here with no type of background checks, waiting time or anything. His campaign was of him with a big gun, and even blew a car up in the campaign commercials. This was preventable. My daughter goes to school 15 minutes from there and has a close friend in the school. This has affected so many communities and so many families.
They say see something, say something, well we see how that works. Those children should’ve been taken by children services a long time ago. Those children were in the house with drugs and DV. But nothing was done. It even played out on FB prior to this and the investigation last year. I pray for the victims and their families and the communities.
When will mental health be treated like cancer?
The high school trying to be discrete ,instant of sounding the Damm alarm
Now we know why mom isn’t catching charges, Now the counselor & whomever was aware of this & did NO a darn thing to stop it, should be charged too because of negligence and involuntary M . Parent (all ) should sue the school as well.
police should have been called.
The school is going to go down with this one as well as both parents and possibly the grandmother, I am outraged at the number of failures 🤬💔
Not going to happen. They weren’t with the boy. They have over charged the father & the DA doesn’t have evidence to charge any one else.
Okay is this school dumb how many warnings did they need
Why didn't Mom call 911 too?
Former school records should have had that info.
Lila saved herself, her teacher, and every classmate in that class. She was extremely brave in this situation. My heart breaks for the victims and these kids
It is absolutely preventable had the education system be restricted to teaching Reading, Writing, and Math instead of teaching porn.
Huh?
I hope this is a huge example for America! We (Georgia) has arrested many kids that have been threatening schools around the state.
Its not the first example!!!!
Did the boy buy the weapon by himself??? No!!!😢
Pascal thank you for bringing this all to light! You are so right that this was preventable in so many ways. We can do better!!!
I had to rewatch just to make sure I heard everything you said correctly
cause my mind is just blown
Thank you so much Pascal for all you in keeping us informed. You’re my go-to for the latest updates.👍🏽👏🏾
Here is another problem, if a child has a service plan (or if there was a list) the substitute teachers aren’t allowed to know that information. It’s against policy here in Johnston County, NC so the child’s accommodations aren’t met. If there was a list of names, substitute teachers wouldn’t be privy to that list. There are so many blind spots in these policies.
Pascal❤ UNBELIEVABLE how PREVENTABLE this was in SO MANY ways B4 hand! I truly don't hve enough right words 4 how I TRULY feel bout this. I just kp. 🙏ing 4 BETTER, 4 the poor VICTIMS, & more PREVENTION. ❤ya Pascal...T.Y & BLESSINGS!👍🙏🙏🙏
Always enjoy ur shows Pascal and a source of good information🤟👏✊👊
The mom and grandparents should have warned local authorities as well as the school system.
she should have called police too.
Schools don’t want to bring attention to problems, incidents, and referrals. The more they have the less $$$$$$$ they receive. As a teacher we were told not to write referrals but to provide positive behavioral support and interventions instead
ALL THAT warning and still they go get the backpack of the wrong damn kid!!
They already said the warning about multiple schools were going to be targeted wasn't from the mother
Lord help our country amen 🙏
A lawsuit should be filed
The family should have home schooled
Such a shame! Mom should have called the police first. I'm sure they would have responded quickly to the school immediately.
The baby who shared the same name and left the classroom as well was being walked by Angels. These are the worst parents ever, I feel sorry for the kid. He didn't stand on chance on having normalcy with that family. What's sadder is no outside of the family dynamic did a DAMN THING. SADDEST IS AT 14 HIS MIND BROKE AND HE TOOK INNOCENT LIVES BASED ON EXTREME MENTAL DISFUNCTIONS.
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barrow county school and state education system will be sued for millions if not billions, whoever took the call may never be known, if found out, charged
Wow 😮😢 they were warned
Many dropped the ball but are passing blame, seems like nobody accepts accountability!!!! I understand the bullying aspect but those kids didn’t have a chance to bully him, he’d only been that one day really! It’s so sad everyone failed him and failed to keep others safe!
I think that if you get flagged you need to also spend mandatory time at a therapist in order to get off the keep an eye on you everyday list.
I’m a new listener and I absolutely love your show!
Thank you
"We focus on healing right now", better not talk about taking accountability for your wrong doing, that's what you learn your students?! Kids were the heros here, kids reacting faster than trained adults, kids understanding the situation and the danger better than trained adults and making the right decisions, kids saved lifes and tried to save more, while every adult failed, from parents to law enforcement to school administration. And then they make stupid press conference were they praise themselves, disgusting. Take responsibility for your inactions and be at least now sb the kids can look up to and have respect for. 😤
I think the school that he left from because of his behavior should have put in an attention letter as to spelling out what they had seen in his behavior as a heads up. I'll also say that depending on what the grandmother said it could have just been yeah we've been having troubles with him at home and he's skipping school a lot so maybe they just thought that they were worried about his attendance and weren't really thinking this worst case scenario but I definitely hope this is a Learning lesson and a way to come to more mandatory counseling for these kids.
Why isn't anyone talking about Marjorie Green and others in Georgia and their assault weapons showing this child what to do? Why isn't she charged in Georgia
I agree 👍 💯
Hi from South Fl ✌️ 🌴
Arrest the aunt and the mother they all knew about this boy.
Shame all the way around
“Check on my son” is not the same thing as “my son is about to 🔫 up the school “. Stop giving her credit. Unless she said he is going to hurt something the crackhead that was tearing up the house and threatening him doesn’t get anything from me
It is illegal to transfer discipline records. If the parents or grandparents didn't disclose, the school would have not know about his issues. I'm pretty sure they didn't say he was homicidal. They probably said he was depressed and suffered from being bullied.
See, now this is why I never felt unsafe in my high school: 1) Columbine went down just before I began @ the h.s., &, bc of that, 2) my school enlisted a strict "all entry doors to remain locked except for from 8:05-8:15a; 3) metal detectors were put in place @ the entrances; 4) a sheriff's deputy would remain stationed in an office next to the guidance counselors while another would remain on foot patrol throughout the school day & they were required to stay on campus for their lunches; 5) no student could be admitted thru the doors after 8:15a lockdown unless they call ahead, they must have a written excuse AND submit to search & patdown; 6) no students were allowed to leave for lunches or for dr appts unless a parent came to sign them out; 7) we had to wear a photo ID on our lanyards the entire school day, coming w/o it 1x = internal suspension, 3x w/o = external suspension, 5x or more w/o = expellation; 8) each class, hall, & stairwell had a trigger button that would sound an alarm similar to the fire buzzer, it would initiate classroom door locks, in case the teacher forgot to lock the door as class began, & we weren't allowed to open those doors for students NOR teachers until the alarm is shut off & 1 of the resource officers cleared the area; 9) We spent the 1st few days @ the beginning of each semester drilling for active shooters wherein, in the event we heard gunshots, we were to all go to the corner of the room farthest from windows, & the desks around, which were bullet resistant, & we were to quickly stack them to make a shield wall, like Vikings.
The scariest I ever saw in school was a fist fight between a student & a teacher that the male gym teacher started by knocking all the kids books & lunch off the cafeteria table & smacking him across the head & the kid, whom had always had temper issues & who's parents already narced on the teacher 1x for pushing the kid 1.5' shorter around, but that teacher got his butt beat & the kid got expelled, the teacher didn't even get a reprimand. Also, during a student v. student fight, 1 kid was power-driven into a plate glass window on the 3rd floor, & his head smashed thru the glass, but no 1 ever head weapons.. even suspicion of such ideas would mean automatic expelling, no questions asked
There should have been a squad looking for him. How did the admin not know of the TWO DIFFERENT STUDENTS ❓️❓️❓️
Colt never went to school. They probably hardly laid eyes on him
I heard some where Colt sent his mom a message saying he was sorry b4 he did what he did
Take the book bag but Not even search the bathroom for the boy either
It would seem to me that Colt SHOULD have been on a WATCH LIST or were both boys on a watch list, they were already aware that Colt was a troubled teen according to the father's statement of being in close contact with people at the schools about his struggles, which makes me believe the other boy should have been less of a possible threat. All of the troubled teens need to be on a picture board and every school employee should be watching their every move and what’s on their person, sad but if you're troubled you should be watched for the threat you are to the public
They can't lock down the school with that limited info . They probably wanted to make sure he wasn't going to hurt himself
Nobody had the full picture
Watching in replay
Of course the school and law enforcement want to blame else wear if I were the 4 victims family I would sue coltens family law enforcement and the school this could of been prevented big time.
If she had all these arrest why didn’t the father have custody
Father had custody of all 3 kids
He had all the guns unsecured.
Mom knew about the gun for Colt.
He texted his mom and said " I'm sorry " . The rest hasn't been disclosed yet .
You’re RIGHT, PASCAL. A HUGE CLUSTER F.
It's easy to second guess after something happens .
What was the mom charged with and why? She didn’t live in the house from what I understood!!!
Also.. if he was being bullied... was anything done about that? I'm not condoning ANYTHING he did, but we need to hold the bullies accountable as well.
Was only in the school a day; no bullying.
Children are unpredictable and smarter than most adults so that
"new technology" is malarkey
The other thing I am thinking is if schools need to have someone monitoring all the cameras to look for people carrying a weapon, while having immediate access to the lockdown button, schools are going to have to be funded for the protection measures they now need
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It was a black girl that seen the gun and didn't let him back inside the classroom.
SPECULATION: DID MOMMA CRY WOLF OR DID THE KID CASE THE SCHOOL BEFORE HE UNLEASHED HIS VENOM ON INNOCENT LIVES! UGH! THE FAMILY TRIED TO WARN BUT DID THEY NOT TRY TO DETER THE KID THEMSELVES. THE FAMILY STEPPED AWAY FROM THIS KID THEMSELVES. MISS STEPS ALL THE WAY! IS THE FAMILY CULPABLE FOR THIS TRAGEDY.Ugh!i DO YOU THINK SO?
How do news outlets keep saying this is a rare occurrence… it’s not rare. It’s getting more and more. Parents must be terrified.. I’m in the uk, we have had isolated incidents where sharp things are taken into school.. but not pew pews.. what are the parents thinking buying these weapons? I understand the 2nd amendment… but that doesn’t cover screwed up kids does it? I hope they chuck the book at both these parents. Such a shame.
Wonder if the counceler called the wrong one to her office or caught him in the hallway to talk to him, thinking they had the right one. Then sent someone for his backpack
In an extreme case like this; records in the office can easily be checked; plus nowadays kids are given picture ID in a lot of the schools.
Could the other colt be involved to confuse who was looking for them???!?
First of all an email isn't going to say anything about potential violence due to FERPA laws. An administrator or security or school officer will probably get the kid. What did the mother specifically say? If she did not specifically mention a threat of violence, that is not the immediate thought coming from the school. As a school counselor I would assume that the student is suicidal, not homicidal. Immediate assistance is needed, but not police for a suicidal student. You can't keep a kid on radar to all staff due to FERPA LAWS., only staff who have an educational interest.
The gun does come apart
You can’t post a picture of a child publicly. Thats against the law. And it’s definitely against the law to post a child’s picture and say watch out for this person. You cant accuse him of something he hasn’t done. There are laws to protect the child. But a private list should have been sent to all staff and there should have been a meeting letting staff know to monitor this child at all times
So they should of went to boy lock him in principal office💔💔💔💔💜💜💜💜💜💜
FAKE..Befo (BEFORE)..👏GOOD Job, Pascal!!
He didn't say he was gonna shoot anyone . You assume to much . The school got the call , looked for the student and couldn't find him .
So the sheriff said they got the first call about a "possible" active shooter at 9:30. Then the 2nd press conference said we got a call at 10:20 about an active shooter! 50 minutes to push the button!
I’m shocked that YOU are on the blame the counselor bandwagon. She obviously reported it to her administrator for them to search for the kid. Was she supposed to suit up in kevlar are search the school? Blame everyone but the evil that pulled the trigger. What would the discussion be if the kids last name was Jackson or Ramirez…certainly not mental health or school counselors
MARCEE, just CLEANED OUT Pablo Escoba WITH HER OWN Stash of dope! “NOT THE MOMMA, NOT THE MOMMA”, NOT THE MOMMA! what???
Every classroom should have a panic button . When tge young girl saw the gun she could hit the button alerting the school.
I wondee because of your countries gun cult the administration thought it would go against his 2nd amendment right to not allow him to have a gun ?
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They can't shut down the school for every call they get.... there are so many prank calls.... why didn't that person call the police?
Why not??? Aren’t the kid’s lives more important??? If schools doesn’t want more security for the children then the schools need shut down anyways
Oh my omg😢
I don't think the mom told the school that he had the gun.
Nor the grandmother.
Why didn't the mom call the grandparents or father to go up to the school immediately?
They don't live that far away.
The school should've lock down right away.
Kids around here are still scared to go back to school.
If she knew what her son was about to do it’s not the school she needed to inform… ITS LAW ENFORCEMENT!!!
You don’t call the school to be blown off then do nothing…
You call LE and say they need to go to the school and why… then call the school and tell LE is on the way and why… she’s just as guilty as he is…
I don't know if you have children but, for most parent's calling the police on your own child is difficult.. I called them on my son when he was 12 n it was so hard but many people won't even entertain the idea and this mother probably hates police being put in jail as many time's as she has.. 🤨
i thought the title said Mom called school before shitting, my bad
Why can’t u read pascal 😅
Mom and her dad (his grandfather) are trying to play babyface now but the first call she should have made was to the police.
Wow
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You all act like you know everything about this tragedy! No one knows except the people that need to know!!
Hand up date please 😊💜
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Dude you talk alot and say little. Get to the point!
Well then go follow someone that says alot and talks a little!! I actually enjoy his commentary if I didn’t, then I surely would be else where 😂
Yes. 12 minutes in and just about subscribing and advertising himself. Another 12 minutes up still only said what it said in the title. Off to look for someone who doesn’t prattle on in between facts.
A cascade of horrible events throughout this kids entire life that created a perfect storm for disaster. EVERYONE was just to damn late.
what did she tell the school?" i dont see the AR13 here!!!