An important factor in how a 2 stroke engine runs is the pressure in the exhaust system. Injecting cool oil into the exhaust changes the exhaust's internal temp and pressure. The noticeable effect is the immediate change in RPMs (and of course, the awesome thick smoke). At higher RPMs, the pressure in the exhaust increases to the point where some of the exhaust gasses are pushed back into the engine, combined with the new fuel/air mixture coming in from the carb, and re-burned in the combustion chamber. So, not all of the baby oil is being flashed into white smoke by the high exhaust temp. Some is burning inside the engine. It's doubtful that this would be very harmful to the engine. 20 ounces in one minute is a lot of oil, but only a percentage of that makes it into the combustion chamber.
They could possibly find a "sweet spot" far enough from the wet band to prevent reversion of the oil into the cylinder, but still hot enough to smoke. It wouldn't prevent temperature induced pressure change, but may help with baby oil contamination in the cylinder. For those who want a basic visual here is a link upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Arbeitsweise_Zweitakt.gif
Its also most likely causing a lean condition at partial throttle because of how he describes the raise in the RPM . 2 strokes are quite picky when it comes to exhaust modifications and as you know the expansion chamber is critical. The scavenging effect is tied directly to moving the air/fuel mix through the transfer ports. I hate to be the safety Nazi but this is definitely not something to just blindly go and do. It could easily lead to fouling a spark plug or something worse like a engine seizure in flight. Definitely not something you want to try for the first time in the air etc.
@@Two-StrokeLife I agree.. the temp at the end of the header pipe is probably just as hot as it is in the middle of the pipe..move the fitting towards the end of the exhaust..
I can hear your RPMs go down when you hit the smoke....never noticed it instill you talked about it in the video. Also very informative video Tucker....good job and safe flying!!!!
Tucker, when drilling exhaust pipes or thin sheet metal don't use normal drill bits use a Unibit stepped bit. They prevent break through grabbing, rough edges and possible pipe damage.
Over here in the uk you use to be able to get strawberry sented 2 stroke oil, if you just got the scent and added it to your baby oil, you could do scented smoke!!!
When you shoot oil before expansion chamber to your exhaust it changes characteristics because that chamber is where 2 stroke makes that little extra power, try to stick it after chamber in place where it comes to final diameter of your pipe, exhaust gases there are bit cooler and has much higher velocity. Also you should try diesel fuel, when you use oil it will eventually flood your silencer so it will be soaked with unburnt oil.
Tucker, try vegetable glycerin, its pure, clean and smokes like HELL!! Thats what vapers use to produce huge clouds. They also use it in night clubs and so on
Have you ever debated adding smoke/oil dye to the baby oil you are using? If it is a quirky color people won't think you are crashing, plus it looks amazing!!
was waiting to learn about your smoke system. I am almost complete with installing smoke system on my PPG. I'm using waste vegetable oil. sky smells like french fries. hahaha. I totally enjoy your videos Tucker!!
I'd add that 2 strokes are quite picky when it comes to exhaust modifications. The shape of the expansion chamber affects the engines tuning and spraying oil in it does a lot more on a 2 stroke than what it would to a 4 stroke engine.2 strokes use the scavenging effect of the exhaust so prolonged use could cause some serious issues. Especially if it makes it run lean. Chances are that's why Tucker's increased RPM at partial throttle. If he ran it too long at that load it could lead to a seizure or scored piston etc and that's why he uses it in bursts most of the time. I'd recommend testing it and checking to be sure it's not running too lean before going crazy with it. Luckily for Tucker it sounds like it causes it to run too rich at wide open throttle.
@@TuckerGott thanks for the reply and sorry to be the "safety freak" . But I wanted to put it out there. Also thanks for showing the nice side of Jersey and if you're ever down the southern end hit me up. I fly out of Cape May and have a big tire Maule M4. It's not the flying cowboys by any stretch but nonetheless there's some cool sandbars to play at during low tide.
Yep - piping is everything in a 2-stroke. You can make docile engines become fire breathing monsters that will just about dislocate your shoulders with acceleration, on snowmobiles, or multi-cylinder motorcycles, with the right pipes and jetting to match. 👍
Be sure your baby oil is "Paraffin Based". Plant based may build up in your exhaust. I looked at the data sheet for the smoke sold from aircraft spruce for OVER $50 per gallon and noted the base is paraffin oil.
I have no idea if it would work but could you add food coloring to the oil to make colored smoke ? could be a fun little experiment if it doesn't mess up the pump
FIRST: PRAISE: Great cinematography Tucker! SECOND: QUESTION? Would it be possible to add color to the smoke? Maybe by adding a bottle of food coloring dye? Just curious. THIRD: REQUEST: How about some sky writing in smoke? Can you write "Jaclyn" without crashing?
air shows are always full of mosquitoes or they are when I'm there so I would suggest a little citronella oil mixed in there. so if you're going to make smoke you really should use either a stainless exhaust or titanium because of the corrosive effects that soot has on steel
I would def like to watch u in jersey sometime. I’m saving up for one and I would like to come check it out firsthand sometime. I’m not far away. In fact I might have seen u or someone else while I was on 95 south the other day
I wonder if you could mix the baby oil with some dye to create coloured smoke? I know the Red Arrows use some dye with diesel but the exhaust temps are probably 10x higher.
I'm pretty sure the reason it messes with engine performance is that some of the baby oil sneaks into the cylinder right before the power-stroke and becomes part of the fuel mixture. Not sure if it has any other implications. I mean, two-strokes like some oil in their fuel anyways... But maybe not lavender and aloe :P
tucker would vegetable glycerine work the same stuff they use in vape liquid or even vape liquid might work get a flavoured one that would smell real nice too then
Your videos are super motivational! I really want to try this now. I am at the "It's so cool!" stage. I'm retired military with very fixed income. I have worked fighters, attack planes and helicopters as a mechanic since I was 17. There are aircraft that are far easier to repair, maintain than others and are more reliable. The A-10, for instance, was super easy to fix and very reliable if you didn't baby it or ignore it. Can you recommend a paramotor that falls into that description? I would be more interested in cross country flying once I get comfortable with gear and ability. Any advice would be awesome! Thanks!
It may not be legal. But just for shits and grins. Try using automatic transmission fluid. Back in the seventies, we used it in our hot rods the same way you use mineral oil. It makes tons of smoke.
Have you done any research for yourself independently? You do understand that chem trails is a well documented thing that has been applied to our skies for many decades now. It Is Not A Theory, it is fact that chemicals and metals are sprayed into our atmosphere sometimes creating "contrails", again this is admitted science. Look up how many tons of Silver Iodide has been intentionally sprayed into the atmosphere to manipulate clouds/weather? Isn't it like 10's of thousands of tons? This weather manipulation is under the guise of many names and hidden from us in plain sight (only recently have grade school textbooks added con-trails to the cloud sections of books, it is insane).
There a back stroke in the pipe so it injects a air/fuel mixture that goes into the header then back up through the exhaust port and combusting. So in theory your sucking baby oil back into the cylinder even a small amount would definitely effect performance.
hey Tucker just gott my shirts in the mail...I'm wearing my Vitruvian " Paramotor" Man shirt right now! Very comfortable...Just had a thought...you could get a job where you spray for Mosquito's with the smoke system if the TH-cam thing dries up!!! LOL
Tucker buddy, that pipe looks awfully close to the exhaust. What type of pipe are you using? I'm trying to put together a smoke system but I'm worried the heat from the exhaust will melt a rubber pipe
Please excuse my ignorance, but I'm curious. Instead of drilling a hole in the wall of your exhaust, why not spray a thin mist into the tip? Similar to what jet based aerobatic teams often do. Obviously, that's a jet exhaust versus a little 2 or 4 stroke, but is it hot enough to smoke baby oil or commercial smoke oils used in theatrical hazers etc?
So what's the flow rate of that pump? That's gotta be like a 400 gph to move 20oz that fast, I'm sure the Venturi effect from the exhaust gasses probably pull it in faster as well.
Your exhaust a shaped that way being bigger in the middle and smaller on the ends because it acts as somewhat of a turbocharger. So when you add oil it will get in your combination chamber. These also alternative smoke machines that are less invasive
@@TheTropicalViking they have ones that don't go into your exhaust. Think of them like a vape with a fan. They have an atomizer and ignite own fluid. it's all pretty self-contained. If you've ever seen a thermal fogger it's pretty much that but smaller
This looks like you could break your Paramotor trying to install this sh#%. Mad props to you for installing a system that works, but I'll pass on my future machine! :)
Now we can all blow smoke out our A$$. Ha ha I got a 1993 Subaru that does the same thing no mods needed. It drips oil on the hot exhaust and people think my car is on fire.
I always wondered what you do if you misjudge doing a move over the top of the wing and you end up having the lines go slack and falling into the shoot? ... or is that something to just never have happen.
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That's it, I'm doing it. All I needed was a tiny little push. Thanks T!
Yes!! Join the club. :D
Tucker Gott I love mine as well!!
Do you recall the optimal jet nozzle diameter?
Me Too Kyle , Gotta do it now for sure
@Kyle O'Glee please make a step by step video on how you make it. With a list of parts too please.... Thank you!
An important factor in how a 2 stroke engine runs is the pressure in the exhaust system. Injecting cool oil into the exhaust changes the exhaust's internal temp and pressure. The noticeable effect is the immediate change in RPMs (and of course, the awesome thick smoke). At higher RPMs, the pressure in the exhaust increases to the point where some of the exhaust gasses are pushed back into the engine, combined with the new fuel/air mixture coming in from the carb, and re-burned in the combustion chamber. So, not all of the baby oil is being flashed into white smoke by the high exhaust temp. Some is burning inside the engine. It's doubtful that this would be very harmful to the engine. 20 ounces in one minute is a lot of oil, but only a percentage of that makes it into the combustion chamber.
They could possibly find a "sweet spot" far enough from the wet band to prevent reversion of the oil into the cylinder, but still hot enough to smoke. It wouldn't prevent temperature induced pressure change, but may help with baby oil contamination in the cylinder. For those who want a basic visual here is a link upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Arbeitsweise_Zweitakt.gif
Its also most likely causing a lean condition at partial throttle because of how he describes the raise in the RPM . 2 strokes are quite picky when it comes to exhaust modifications and as you know the expansion chamber is critical. The scavenging effect is tied directly to moving the air/fuel mix through the transfer ports.
I hate to be the safety Nazi but this is definitely not something to just blindly go and do. It could easily lead to fouling a spark plug or something worse like a engine seizure in flight.
Definitely not something you want to try for the first time in the air etc.
@@Two-StrokeLife I agree.. the temp at the end of the header pipe is probably just as hot as it is in the middle of the pipe..move the fitting towards the end of the exhaust..
You guys are really geeking it out in this thread. Even though I didn’t understand anything, I read it all.
I can tell you're the fun guy at the party!
I can hear your RPMs go down when you hit the smoke....never noticed it instill you talked about it in the video.
Also very informative video Tucker....good job and safe flying!!!!
Tucker, when drilling exhaust pipes or thin sheet metal don't use normal drill bits use a Unibit stepped bit. They prevent break through grabbing, rough edges and possible pipe damage.
I have looked at videos and talking and YOU are only trustable one ever I have seen now. Thanked you fore showing yours stuff
Going to install the smoke system on my New Fenix now, thanks Tucker for the easy descriptions !
I think it might be a good idea to experiment on the MT-07 now... delicious baby oil smoke system behind the motorbike!
That chem-trail joke.. about killed me. ROFL
Does it get the chase cam oily?
Over here in the uk you use to be able to get strawberry sented 2 stroke oil, if you just got the scent and added it to your baby oil, you could do scented smoke!!!
Going back through your tip vortices, that was awesome 😄
You are freaking awesome Tucker I love all your videos keep doing it keep doing it keep doing it keep doing it
When you shoot oil before expansion chamber to your exhaust it changes characteristics because that chamber is where 2 stroke makes that little extra power, try to stick it after chamber in place where it comes to final diameter of your pipe, exhaust gases there are bit cooler and has much higher velocity. Also you should try diesel fuel, when you use oil it will eventually flood your silencer so it will be soaked with unburnt oil.
Tucker, try vegetable glycerin, its pure, clean and smokes like HELL!! Thats what vapers use to produce huge clouds. They also use it in night clubs and so on
Have you ever debated adding smoke/oil dye to the baby oil you are using? If it is a quirky color people won't think you are crashing, plus it looks amazing!!
The smoke adds a lot. At one point it looked like a heart way up in the sky.
was waiting to learn about your smoke system. I am almost complete with installing smoke system on my PPG. I'm using waste vegetable oil. sky smells like french fries. hahaha. I totally enjoy your videos Tucker!!
No way! I've always wondered if waste frying oil would work. Is the smoke nice and thick?
Tucker have you ever came down to fast and hit the ground/ face planted with the motor on your back? is that uncommon?
Face plants are uncommon. More often pilots slip or just forget to properly run out, resulting in a butt land
It happens. Not to me....
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Hi Tucker great one and really fun, Could you give us more details on the exhaust injector installation ? and where you find the goods ?
All the best
I'd add that 2 strokes are quite picky when it comes to exhaust modifications. The shape of the expansion chamber affects the engines tuning and spraying oil in it does a lot more on a 2 stroke than what it would to a 4 stroke engine.2 strokes use the scavenging effect of the exhaust so prolonged use could cause some serious issues. Especially if it makes it run lean. Chances are that's why Tucker's increased RPM at partial throttle. If he ran it too long at that load it could lead to a seizure or scored piston etc and that's why he uses it in bursts most of the time.
I'd recommend testing it and checking to be sure it's not running too lean before going crazy with it. Luckily for Tucker it sounds like it causes it to run too rich at wide open throttle.
Exactly, there are definitely risks to doing this. I will add, however, that I have tested it on a full 1 minute 15 second burst with no issues. :)
@@TuckerGott thanks for the reply and sorry to be the "safety freak" . But I wanted to put it out there.
Also thanks for showing the nice side of Jersey and if you're ever down the southern end hit me up. I fly out of Cape May and have a big tire Maule M4. It's not the flying cowboys by any stretch but nonetheless there's some cool sandbars to play at during low tide.
Yep - piping is everything in a 2-stroke. You can make docile engines become fire breathing monsters that will just about dislocate your shoulders with acceleration, on snowmobiles, or multi-cylinder motorcycles, with the right pipes and jetting to match. 👍
Be sure your baby oil is "Paraffin Based". Plant based may build up in your exhaust. I looked at the data sheet for the smoke sold from aircraft spruce for OVER $50 per gallon and noted the base is paraffin oil.
It amazes me you have so much trust in a fabric wing! Does it ever freak you out?
I have no idea if it would work but could you add food coloring to the oil to make colored smoke ? could be a fun little experiment if it doesn't mess up the pump
@tuckergott you should get all the guys together that have smoke systems and try to do some sky typing.
FIRST: PRAISE: Great cinematography Tucker!
SECOND: QUESTION? Would it be possible to add color to the smoke? Maybe by adding a bottle of food coloring dye? Just curious.
THIRD: REQUEST: How about some sky writing in smoke? Can you write "Jaclyn" without crashing?
You should try COLORED smoke on your paramotor!!!
the chase cam is dope
Finally I’m glad other people wanted this too
This takes vaping to the next level! So sick!
I wanna do it! Awesome shot at 10:11 Smoke looks so sick!
Hey Tucker,
Great ideas!! If all I can get is the kind with babies, do you think it'll still be fun?
I think it should probably work. 🤣
air shows are always full of mosquitoes or they are when I'm there so I would suggest a little citronella oil mixed in there. so if you're going to make smoke you really should use either a stainless exhaust or titanium because of the corrosive effects that soot has on steel
I would def like to watch u in jersey sometime. I’m saving up for one and I would like to come check it out firsthand sometime. I’m not far away. In fact I might have seen u or someone else while I was on 95 south the other day
Tucker, have you compared DJ fog juice to baby oil? Loved the vortex shot! Thanks for the video.
Love it man! Stay Rad!
You wing is so fast at take off, you perform awesome maneuvers straight away! What wing are you flying and how is it trimmed for that?
any chance of a view and size of your smoke injector jet???? looks awesome effect.
I wonder if you could mix the baby oil with some dye to create coloured smoke? I know the Red Arrows use some dye with diesel but the exhaust temps are probably 10x higher.
U deserve million million views
I'm pretty sure the reason it messes with engine performance is that some of the baby oil sneaks into the cylinder right before the power-stroke and becomes part of the fuel mixture. Not sure if it has any other implications. I mean, two-strokes like some oil in their fuel anyways... But maybe not lavender and aloe :P
tucker would vegetable glycerine work the same stuff they use in vape liquid or even vape liquid might work get a flavoured one that would smell real nice too then
Your videos are super motivational! I really want to try this now. I am at the "It's so cool!" stage. I'm retired military with very fixed income. I have worked fighters, attack planes and helicopters as a mechanic since I was 17. There are aircraft that are far easier to repair, maintain than others and are more reliable. The A-10, for instance, was super easy to fix and very reliable if you didn't baby it or ignore it. Can you recommend a paramotor that falls into that description? I would be more interested in cross country flying once I get comfortable with gear and ability. Any advice would be awesome! Thanks!
Okay. You need to do this but write in the sky “Surrender Dorothy” 😂😂
Wow, thanks for the advice!
Hi , is this vittarozi moster 185 ? How do you avoid heat shield when making a hole ?
Hey Tucker, we pumped diesel in our exhaust for a fat smoke curtain, maybe you should try it once!
Can you add in food coloring or something to give you colored smoke?
Have you ever tried adding food coloring to make different colors to the smoke?
Outstanding!👍👍👍
Cosmic full disclosure. The law of One. ✌
It may not be legal. But just for shits and grins. Try using automatic transmission fluid. Back in the seventies, we used it in our hot rods the same way you use mineral oil. It makes tons of smoke.
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The oil/smoke is changing the resonance of the exhaust. This effects the way a two stroke runs.
I commend you for using the baby free baby oil haha
Bless you
Paramotorist:
It's a smoke system
Cons theorist:
CHEM TRAIL
Have you done any research for yourself independently? You do understand that chem trails is a well documented thing that has been applied to our skies for many decades now. It Is Not A Theory, it is fact that chemicals and metals are sprayed into our atmosphere sometimes creating "contrails", again this is admitted science. Look up how many tons of Silver Iodide has been intentionally sprayed into the atmosphere to manipulate clouds/weather? Isn't it like 10's of thousands of tons? This weather manipulation is under the guise of many names and hidden from us in plain sight (only recently have grade school textbooks added con-trails to the cloud sections of books, it is insane).
Where exactly in New Jersey is this? Beautiful!
Tucker. Try it with diesel. I use diesel for years now. Works great. Cheap. Maybe a little less smoke. But more then ok...
Where can I find the part used for the exhaust that’s not brass and won’t break mentioned @ 2:33~ ? I have rivnuts just can’t find the other piece.
Have you tried mineral oil or the type they use in smoke machines? Not sure if cheaper, but might work better.
There a back stroke in the pipe so it injects a air/fuel mixture that goes into the header then back up through the exhaust port and combusting. So in theory your sucking baby oil back into the cylinder even a small amount would definitely effect performance.
Is it possible to put coloring into your smoke oil so you have a colored smoke trail
great video , what is the name of the camera mount that hangs at the back and where can i get it
hey Tucker just gott my shirts in the mail...I'm wearing my Vitruvian " Paramotor" Man shirt right now! Very comfortable...Just had a thought...you could get a job where you spray for Mosquito's with the smoke system if the TH-cam thing dries up!!! LOL
That would be awesome if it was legal lol
@Ivan Jakanov Not via ultralight aircraft. Read FAR 103.
How can you make the smoke a different colour? Food colouring? Black smoke would look cool too!
Smokenanigans!
Talk about the bike one day.. looks like an fz07
Is there any way with your system to do colored smoke?
That's pretty badass and easy
you can also use diesel fuel which is extra cheap
I'm your new subscriber. Love your vids from Pakistan
SMOKE IT UPPPPP
We have dollar tree and 99c stores if you have those in your state they sell baby oil
Tucker buddy, that pipe looks awfully close to the exhaust. What type of pipe are you using? I'm trying to put together a smoke system but I'm worried the heat from the exhaust will melt a rubber pipe
I think the smoke is creating more back pressure in the exhaust, because of the change in volume of the oil when it evaporate
That was some top gun shit there going thru the smoke 💨 just sayin
Please excuse my ignorance, but I'm curious. Instead of drilling a hole in the wall of your exhaust, why not spray a thin mist into the tip? Similar to what jet based aerobatic teams often do.
Obviously, that's a jet exhaust versus a little 2 or 4 stroke, but is it hot enough to smoke baby oil or commercial smoke oils used in theatrical hazers etc?
Bless you!
Nice one! But aren't you afraid that the chasecam gets into the prop in a bad situation?
So what's the flow rate of that pump? That's gotta be like a 400 gph to move 20oz that fast, I'm sure the Venturi effect from the exhaust gasses probably pull it in faster as well.
20 oz/75sec * 1gal/128 oz * 3600secs/1 hr = 7.5 GPH .... You're way off. :)
@@JamesCampbellPPG lol yeah I am lol. I guess I'm comparing 2 different things in my head, and not accounting for loss of 3/4 in line at length
Jees Tucker, are you flying trims out or is that just the Go pro? It looks like you are going hella fast.
Thanks for sharing.
Does your PPG even VAPE Bro? That smoke is saaweeeet!
Your exhaust a shaped that way being bigger in the middle and smaller on the ends because it acts as somewhat of a turbocharger. So when you add oil it will get in your combination chamber. These also alternative smoke machines that are less invasive
Then please let present some of these less invasive smoke machines. Can you list some examples?
@@TheTropicalViking they have ones that don't go into your exhaust. Think of them like a vape with a fan. They have an atomizer and ignite own fluid. it's all pretty self-contained. If you've ever seen a thermal fogger it's pretty much that but smaller
This looks like you could break your Paramotor trying to install this sh#%. Mad props to you for installing a system that works, but I'll pass on my future machine! :)
WHY NO PARTS LIST IN THE DESCRIPTION
Chem trails!! LOL!!!
Thats sick. I wana try that. Anyone know what the song is?
Where do you get government approved chemtrail solution? I’ve had trouble finding it in stores
Ever tried adding wheels
Hi.. what is the smoke mix formula?? Tnkz
Bless you =P
Could you try going to a different country or island?
Now we can all blow smoke out our A$$. Ha ha I got a 1993 Subaru that does the same thing no mods needed. It drips oil on the hot exhaust and people think my car is on fire.
maybe check your head gaskets?
It doesn't seem to do it all the time. They were replaced about 28K miles ago. It probably is head gaskets but it doesn't overheat. EA82 good times.
Is there anyway to make the smoke colored?
Put on rose colored glasses and Voila!!
You should get one of those Halloween costume butt things to cover your tank so people can think it’s your butt back there.
I'm glad you warned the viewers about the baby oil that's made with real babies, Tucker.
If you wanted more smoke.. is it an option to install 2 systems or.. is that tecnicle imposible.. like killing or damage to your engien??
Chem trail training! hahahah
I always wondered what you do if you misjudge doing a move over the top of the wing and you end up having the lines go slack and falling into the shoot? ... or is that something to just never have happen.
That's pretty rare, it has happened, and it usually ends with a reserve toss
Where's Jaclyn ? nice video by the way [thumbs up]