By the way just to mention here, this video is just talking about the anime! I know the light novel and manga are very different and maybe i'll cover some day but I just loved season 1 and how different it was to other isekai, also...we just hit 10,000 SUBS! This video did way better than I could've ever imagined, thank you so much for all the support :)
The anime is pretty faithful imo, just less detail etc, as you would probably expect. They're up to book 12 on audible, highly recommend. Tho if you do go that rout, know that about book 8 or 9 they change voice actors and its kinda scuffed for most of that book
Years later and this show is still popular .... they really need to get that 2nd season out there. And when they do, they better still have Monica Real doing Tanya's voice! Bit of a fan myself, wrote about 343k words of fan-fic about 6 years ago that still gets some hits. Thank you for making this, it deserves to be remembered for many reasons; for being clever and original, because the anime improved the story-line, and because the animation itself was so damned GOOD. Maybe that is why they never made more - they set such a high standard that it would be too expensive to continue?
@@dropshotgaming3064 It bummed me though that the anime never showed that Being X is not merely the Abrahamic god, but ALL of them, from Krshna to Odin and Zeus.
@@johnwolf2829 One never knows. Utawarerumono's final season aired 19 years after the previous season ended. Japan's sense of timing (or rather, lack thereof) with anime adaptations is really something else!
@@LrdBxRckNo because in the anime it’s shown she uses a deeper voice, and in the light novel it’s explained that Tanya tried to deepen her very young voice to sound more professional and to be taken seriously. When she changes her voice to warm the Republican backed Dacian munitions factory. She’s well aware her voice is high pitched and sounds like a little girl because that’s what she wanted.
@@soundwavegamer2321 she's speaking a different "language" i doubt you could keep a voice when you dont know a language well, she was also mad af when her team gives notice to it
@@Fish_man56 FFF trash hero(this is among the best MC i ve seen so far), dungeon odyssey, The greatest estate developer, Skeleton Soldier Couldn’T Protect The Dungeon(awesome manga feel similar to berserk where you have no idea what the bigger picture is), Cosmic Heavenly Demon 3077(goofy and kinda new so not many chapters), The last adventurer, I m really not the demon lords lackey(kinda goofy but it love it), Demon in mount HUA (kind of a redemption arc vibe going for it), Creepy Isekai pharmacist(softcore body horror/mutilation reminds me of Franken Fran a bit), Surviving The Game as a Barbarian, The dark mage's return to enlistment( has the same vibe as FFF trash hero), Return of the Mount Hua sect( same vibe as demon in mount Hua just that the mc is a bigger asshole), The Priest of Corruption( Mother turns out to be freaking cute and artwork is really good), Mashle, One punch man, Mob Pshycho, Return of the Bloodthirsty Police, Tʜᴇ Sᴛʀᴏɴɢᴇsᴛ Hᴇʀᴏ Wʜᴏ Cʀᴀᴠᴇs Rᴇᴠᴇɴɢᴇ( Brutal MC with mild gore), The Death Mage Who Doesn't Want a Fourth Time, Peerless Dad. This should keep you busy for some time, and whe you finish just google to find similar to whatever manga you want, and just like that you get a few good choices.
@@rphb5870 i agree, just because she don't want to die following orders so she has to make an extra effort don't makes her a psycho... on the other hand, praying to god during her killings spree could give the wrong signals, but that isn't her fault XD
Yeah there's more than a couple bits he gets wrong, either through ignorance or sheer incompetence, however I appreciate his spirit and just choose to overlook it instead
@@cobbleturd6978 definitely not incompetence but rather just being unknowledgeable in the deeper concepts of science/war. He’s reviewing an anime not a historical documentary, so I agree it’s well worth overlooking in this context.
@BlueSoulGamer I feel if you're reviewing an anime with so much inspiration from history and countless little nods that would make any fan of modern history giggle. It would be competent to do a little fact-finding before you publish your review. I digress anyway. More just meant it in the figure of speech, which it's usually used in.
Just to clarify for anyone who reads this. The anime version of Tanya is a case of media differences, in the light novel...which is based off the creator's web novel and is a more refined version of said web novel much like Overlord is the same way, and in the manga Tanya is nowhere NEAR as psychotic looking and acting. In fact the thing with the two soldiers who disobey orders? Yeah the anime makes it so she did it all on purpose but in the light novel and manga it was just a case of REALLY bad luck for them as she just didn't want to deal with them disobeying orders during combat and had them removed from her platoon to prevent discord. Tanya DOES have sociopathic traits but a lot of the trouble that falls Tanya's way is due to her belief in "Signaling Theory", and it causes a LOT of misunderstandings between her and the upper brass that puts her exactly where she DOESN'T want to be. In the light novel and manga she's actually rather fond of Viktoriya/Visha (her nickname), the girl that is pretty much always around her and makes her coffee which is one of her favorite things...Visha makes it exactly how she likes it instead of loading it up with sugar and cream like others do because they think she'll want it super sweet cause she's so young. In a scene in the manga where Being X shows the possible life Tanya could have had in her old life as a salaryman, his eventual wife looks EXACTLY like Visha. In the anime she's much colder to her and all the slasher smiles are cranked to 11. In the light novel and manga during the mission where she blows herself up she actually uses what's called "Doping with magical interference" to enhance her abilities...so her mind takes a hit during that as she's quite literally doped up on magic to increase her reaction time, her instantaneous strength, and turns down her ability to feel pain. The light novel even outright says that when she feels pain from forcing open her magic circuits with those enhancing formulas she uses "Intracerebral narcotics"....she uses a magic formula directly on her brain to deaden her ability to feel pain but the light novel OUTRIGHT calls the formula a "narcotic" so yeah....mental judgment will not be as good as normal for her. The anime, while very good, takes all the sociopathic tendencies that were there in the light novel and cranks them up to 11...this is NOT helped by the fact her Japanese VA is the same woman who voices Clementine from Overlord...the crazy blond that Ainz hugged to the point her organs came out her mouth.
yeah it's a shame that in the anime there wasn't any mention about mental doping magic and being literally on drugs to fight (it happened in WW2 that soldiers fought on drugs). And it's really effective if she was to fake her insanity for putting fear on the enemy's mind
This why its funny when people discus her because for manga/novel readers have such a different view of her then the anime watchers. (and a lot of times when shes discussed they always seem to reference her anime version)
@@mbos14 Oh that's easy to explain, the anime version is the most easy to access. Even manga readers don't always read the light novels or in the case of some series, the light novels never make it over. Lord Marksman and the Vandadis is a series like that, the manga and even the anime for it leave it off for the OG light novel to finish up same for Hybrid x Heart, hell Hybrid x Heart only has 4 volumes of manga and those two series don't have the light novel in the US. The anime for many series is easier to access and get into than the manga and the manga is easier to get into than the light novels. Also the use of her Slasher Smile in the advertising for the anime probably helped, she's pretty much known for her anime's Slasher Smile. Personally I enjoy seeing all the versions of the media...I'm super miffed the Saga of Tanya the Evil movie hasn't been released on physical media like DVD or Bluray in the US yet when Goblin Slayer's movie was already. I enjoy the fact that in the Manga for Saga of Tanya the Evil they regularly have cartoony animal versions of the characters to explain military things, I find it funny as I grew up with Looney Tunes and the like.
@@ShinKyuubi Sure its easy to explain, but I concur with the other guy that it is pretty funny in the case of Tanya. Since what is omitted is fundamental to how one understands certain key aspects of the setting. A simple omission that completely changes how people approach a character as much as it does here with Tanya, is not anywhere near as common as people simply getting a somewhat different version due to having or having not red or watched the other versions of whatever story.
@@whyjnot420 That is true, Tanya is one of the most extreme cases I've seen of it. TVTropes has a page about that kind of thing, her page specifically under characters says "Adaptional Jerkass" and "Adaptional Villainy"
The ironic thing is the psychopathic character is ironically the most likable character in this anime because she does keep a cool head about her situation while everyone else just does what makes them feel good.
Yeah Tanya's biggest problem, is ironically that they are bad at hiding their real feelings. Who told him to take full responsibility for firing someone? And also, he decided to start trash talking a divine being. Ironically, if they acted less like a psychopath (even if they are one) and even feigned compassion, they wouldn't have gotten themselves in such insane situations.
@@Otgel He worked in HR, it was literally in his job description to fire people and one of his core principles is to do his job well. Having a person at least partially dedicated to that task is far from uncommon in larger companies. Personally I think Tanya is more of a sociopath than a psychopath tbh. Both before resurrection and after, they show little to no empathy. Even times when Tanya is obviously concerned with members of her battalion, it seems more like she is a craftsman who is concerned for their tools rather than a commander concerned for her men. edit: She really is her own worst enemy though.
She's also not that psychotic in the manga or novel. Hell, she's almost painted as cute in the manga. The pillbox thing at the start of the anime was an accident in the other adaptations.
Also one additional fact, she doesn't just have to pray in order to use that computation orb, she's FORCED to pray, as soon as she starts pouring mana into it she somewhat loses her mind temporarily and becomes a fanatic with her prayers in order to use the Type-95. That's why she also keeps a regular computational Orb with her that she uses for the most part. The Type-95 is only for emergencies for her. She doesn't want to lose her mind by using the Type-95 as Tanya values individual thought and independence.
Surprisingly, Mary isn't as much of a threat as the anime made her out to me. She's more of a mild inconvenience for Tanya in the LN. She's tanky af and does have her big laser beam attacks, but she's always doing something dumb that her commander hates and is constantly thwarted by Tanya and her mage battalion.
The trap that the Type-95 represents is that the more she uses it, the more faith is forced upon her. It is literally enslaving her to the faith Being X demands.
@@ceu160193because unlike Mary who is a petulant child who only seeking revenge because she sees the world in black and white considering she thinks a Federation political officer is her friend. Tanya on the other hand is a thirty year old man’s mind inside a teenage girls body. She understands how to flex the rules and brigadier General Romel love how she’s a loyal Imperial hunting dog that he can let loss and she while show excellent results.
@@ceu160193 Tanya is an armored turret with a very high degree of accuracy. Mary is a loose cannon who is far more dangerous to her allies than her enemies. Her side LOATHES her as a result.
5:42 quick correction: Viktoriya was surely trying to be _friendly,_ but those two guys had volunteered (like Tanya), while Visha was conscripted. So they had much better training, and looked down on Visha for being a conscript (and a Russy one at that), while also hating Tanya for being higher ranked despite being younger. Because they "earned" their ranks by barking the loudest, while Tanya studied the hardest and Visha (as we see later on) followed in Tanya's footsteps, working hard and learning hard.
The funniest thing about anime episode 1 is when Tanya starts drawing her sword, then realizes her arms are simply too short, after which she's never seen wearing the sword again even though her rank allows it.
From the way God constantly provoke him i always asume this was always his plan all along. To create a demonlord for humanity to team up and defeat it in his name.
@@TotallyNotAPie Considering her mage potential is A before she even became a teen, one can wonder how far her power can grow by the time of adulthood.
9:00 it's also worth mentioning that Tanya designed her month of training after the memetic training regime of the US Navy SEALS known as Hell Week. Instead of deep sea speed diving to acclimate to sudden pressure changes, she's got them doing high altitude sprints to cover the same idea. Then there's the live munitions practice, the torture resistance training, and everything else. She's psychotic, no doubt, but she's got surprisingly good reasons to base her insanity.
What is really funny is that every Mage that went through this training will survive the war. Most new soldiers that did not go through Tanya specific training will die on the battlefield or a weird disease Mages get if they don’t kill a certain amount of people during extreme stress. The true power of a Mage is not shown until book 13 of the Light Novels.
Her "good reasons" for this training were that she was hoping to fail enough of them that the unit couldn´t be established, if memory serves right. However, enough of them passed because, and this is more speculation on my part than having read it anywhere, they were kids raised in an imperialistc country in the middle of a war. Meaning, they were in fact motivated enough to get through the training, which probably screwed with Tanya´s plans.
@@joshportal2808 no they suffered allot of attrition during their recon in force in the western campaign and also in the East against the Federation. Replacements are also not in a position to slowly acclimate and be trained to the same standard so the battalion strength is actually slowly sapped away.
@@Cecil97 yeah, they do take losses more and more as time goes on, but iirc that first group of soldiers she trained made it out with career ending injuries and not deaths. While the fresh faces who didn't get the Month of Tanya™ were just meat to the grinder.
@@katamariroller2837 When they completed it, she changed it to keep them alive so she had plenty of meat shields. She keeps them alive because she doesn't want the bosses to think she is a bad leader
@@ceu160193 I agree. Both points make it so she can rival and best the S tier mages. Mostly because most mages in the story either has the mind but not the power, or the power but not the mind.
Yep, her amount of magic power is bellow average in her battalion. Only thing that makes it seems like she has way more than everyone is that she can store her extra magic in that blessed computational jewel
One of the key reasons Tanya won against Mary is also the fact that Mary is a legit kid, while Tanya has over 50 year of expirience, but possesing the body of an agile, young girl.
Still, how much you have to fail, when you literally given power of god to beat Tanya and still screw up and die? Tanya may have 50 years of experience, but not in magic. In a way, they are both like puppets being X has to fight for it's amusement.
Tanya won against Mary because Mary is all the things people accuse Tanya of, she is insane homicidal maniac that commits war crimes and doesn't care she is killing civilians because she is a zealot that can do no wrong, she lost because she had zero self control or discipline and only lasted as long as she did because of divine intervention where as Tanya has survived and thrived in spite of it via being disciplined.
@@ceu160193 Perhaps not, but the previous *life* experience helps a lot in understanding the mage part. I think it is more similar to a similar field career change rather than a completely different one.
@@ceu160193 A key thing to remember is that Being X doesn't want Tanya to die. He wants the guy to believe in gods, to test the theory that misery will make people turn to gods.
@@AnonD38 Saw the video and these were my thoughts exactly. Reading through the light novel I have to say that guy's way of thinking is rational to the extreme whithout being held back by emotions which makes other people perceive him as insane. Actually based on how he treats people who actually do their jobs, I'd take him as my boss over most other people without a second thought. He may think at one moment that his subordinates are useful sandbags to catch bullets meant for him, but at the same time he realizes that preserving them as valuable assets to keep him alive he does everything to keep his men alive.
the story is about Rational and Emotional behavior and the conflict between them in human. the all business no emotion boss who fire people is not doing anything wrong, but seem cruel and inhumane, and the lazy worker who murder their boss because they got fired is irrational and acting on raw emotion is doing the wrong thing, yet there is humanity behind his emotion. there are many of these examples happen in the story, where one party will act on one emotion and the other will act on their rationality.
0:45 I think in the LN it is even mentioned that “Tanya” covered for the guy and did a bunch of his work. Not really out of any care for him mind you. He was just thinking about the bottom line and making sure his department looked good for the higher ups. But still the guy fired is a POS.
The dude that got fired was, depending on which source material you pull from, either a drug addict, a gambling addict, or so damn lazy that he was constantly missing days of work, and only doing a half-assed job whenever he _did_ come in to work. And this wasn't his first offense, this was his third or fourth chance and that's why Tanya kicked him to the curb. It was, for a while, less expensive to keep him on board and for Tanya to pick up his slack than it was to bring in a new hire to learn the ropes, but with all the chances he wasted, that was no longer the case. Better to start fresh with someone new, who is hopefully motivated enough to do the work.
Also to mention, but apparently it's really hard for a company to fire somebody in Japan. So that's probably why that guy was given several chances to fix himself.
@@Ryan.2 that’s simply not true, it’s hard to quit companies in Japan, in fact there are companies created with the sole purpose of helping people quit because a lot of companies will do really nasty underhanded stuff to people who quit, but fired? Nah they can fire you pretty easily
@@3adgamd3r If it was easy to fire people then some companies wouldn't force their workers to take on mind numbing and pointless jobs that are specifically designed to convince them to quit on their own accord.
@@Ryan.2 they absolutely would, there’s a very weird punishment culture in Japan, like one time they punished a train conductor for being a minute late by making him write essays about how much of a failure he is and shouting at him for like 12 hours a day for about a month, this caused him to develop an anxiety disorder, and when he saw he was going to be behind schedule again, he pushed the train faster than it was meant to, which caused it to derail and ended the lives of a bunch of people
Going straight for the Jugular here, the story of Tanya here is best seen in the light of the Light Novels as it also lets you know her thinking processes and the reasons for why she does what she does. She is also only borderline when it comes to being psychotic, in so far as she is always trying, (and nearly always failing), to find the path that leads to a safe position as far away from the front lines of this world war as possible. The psychotic-ness of Tanya is mainly coming from her knowledge of how WWI and WWII played out in her previous life, and her trying to reconcile that with the evolving history of her new world where WWI&II seem to be combined into one war. She has a general sense of where the war is going to go, based on her previous life's knowledge, but she's in a position where she can't do much about the steering of her Empire's responses to the war, and that it is always revealed in hindsight that Tanya ends up being correct in what will happen in the war before it does, yet her superior's never seem to believe that anything she has to say on a continuing basis will still continue to be right, even when it does continue to be correct. The illustrations in both the Light Novel and in the Manga's seem to best portray the story of Tanya, whereas the anime passionately shoves all of that out the airlock in favour of a much more simplified looking story, where Tanya's borderline psychosis is cranked up to absolutely Looney-tune proportions, and it does a real disservice to what is an otherwise well done and thought out Isekai storyline! Like what happened in Hellsing when they re-did the complete anime storyline in Hellsing: Ultimate, I truly hope that they re-do Tanya with a more properly translated title and have it practically copy the way the story is portrayed in the Light Novels and the Manga. To do otherwise I feel would be a major loss for this series!
She's not insane, shes hyper sane, she's extremely logical and is capable of putting her emotions & conventional morals aside for her true value of being a rational person.
I would agree with you if Tanya wasn't portrayed as enjoying his vileness. He is extremely sociopathic behind its logical and pragmatic masquerade usually making decisions that seemed logical but are outright unhinged (The story is call "Tanya the Evil"; nothing subtle about this point). Anyways, this is one of my favorite animes, I really enjoy how different it is from all the other isekai out there and the writing is noticeable inspired. I love that despite the main character being a psychopath it is still human with so much more to his persona. And well fleshed out war stories are always interesting.
that's certainly a strong part of her character, but its hard to deny she/he does have the heart of a Berserker to call on when its needed, which is anything but hyper rational.
I would argue that being X is the villain not tanya, tanya just wants to stop the war, being x wants it to continue just to spite one person. also from tanya's perspective being x is the devil as he forced them to live a second live in awful conditions and let's human kill each other just to sprite her, then even gives 10x the power to person who want's her dead just to try to force her to have faith in him. Tanya isn't a saint, but she isn't meant to be, she was a person of logic and facts, with a willingness to do the jobs overs dont have the courage to do. in return she get's put into life and death situations and almost killed multiple times by people who run on faith and emotions, showing that if she was in charge the war would have ended by now and she would have won against being X
So, I haven't read the light novel, but in the manga the gods (cause there's more than Being X) notice, that faith starts inreasing due to the war and Tanya's actions, who they see as an apostle whom Being X granted a miracle, so they think, hey let's make more apostles and decide to create three miracles by granting a wish each to three people. The wishes that were granted were those of Anson Sue, his wife and his daughter Mary Sue, all three ended up buffing Mary, which is why she is so busted. They're not as petty as Being X is in the anime, but they're utterly amoral and only interested in receiving faith from mortals.
@mairain6443 oh yeah 100% Tanya isn't the true villain, it's being x. I appreciate you not saying she's a saint because she isn't but it makes sense, she's not sane, she's rational and Being X is...yea the main villain and that's indisputable. It's called 'Tanya the evil'but I don't think she's evil, she's fucking nuts at times but still 🤣
@@RyHoppoalso the Tanya the evil technically just a tittle that got added in English cause the tittle of the light novel was only youjo senki aka warchronicles or war diary of a young/little girl. The Tanya the evil part was added to only be eye catching, and i really suggest you read the novel if u can get your hands on it if u want to see unfiltered tanya and in general a lot of missing detail cause unfortunately youjo senki is one of thoose works that each adaptation is different for some reason. But yeh she is quite well written
@@MarcelJ. Actually, all the "other" gods are just aspects of Being X. He's literally just split himself into smaller pieces to talk with himself, and also so these aspects don't have the omniscience of his full form.
If by rationalist you mean very constricted personality doin' stuff that might advance her station yes, but also she's a trillon neuromorphic tokens short of a complete person and not making up the debt.
@@zredplayer she's not a nationalist, she pretends to be a nationalist because it promises her a good life, IF the empire wins the war. When in rome, do as the romans do. She's an opportunist and will drop her country if the need arises (which she also does eventually).
if you like the anime, you should check out the manga too. They're both very different despite both being adaptations of the same light novel, from what I've seen the anime cuts out a few arcs, along with portraying Tanya as an unhinged and war-mongering psychopath. Whereas the manga leaves those arcs in and portrays Tanya as a cold and calculated psychopath, using everybody as tools to protect herself from danger. Those were just some examples, but there's more differences I left out, so go read the manga.
TLDR: Tanya isn't a sadist In the light novel, Tanya is the Asian moral ideal of social-face put to its logical extreme; she believes that striving to be the objectively best as whatever social role you fulfill is the most important for being a good person. In her previous life, she chose to be a corporate businessman because that was the best way she could fulfill a role in society with the greatest objective measure of success, money. When she is put into a country with total-war on the horizon, the only path for her moral fulfillment is being a soldier. As far as volume 17, children with magical potential are drafted far younger than non-magical citizens and it is implied that Tanya, despite being female and a child, would have eventually been drafted; leaving Tanya with two options, be an orphan without any social value (measured by money) then be forced into conscription with almost zero path towards promotion, or voluntarily join the army in hopes of getting promoted enough to enhance her chances of surviving the bloodbath of war. Keep in mind that the era Tanya is in has very little opportunities for female employment, especially for orphans who can't outright afford formal education. When Tanya becomes a solder, she has to emotionally reconcile her new duty to serve a societal role of protecting her employers (the people of the empire) against a war that causes the mass destruction of human potential (ability to achieve positive social-face). Every book has her internally battling over her and the army's grinding down of young productive men, allies and enemies alike (the exception being communists, their society does nothing but destroy people's will to achieve positive social face) [spoilers] Tanya's major goal, starting from book 14 or 15, is to defect from the empire. Her desire to quit was because a partial coup by the military high command trying to negotiate an end of the war failed. Tanya isn't a sadist who desires death and bloodshed, she is someone who is put under deep moral strain by this war and has long since suppressed her human reactions to war.
Additional note: Everything she does that is considered sadistic is done with a reason, purpose, and literal citation to real-world military battles military strategies, military documentaries, books on cultivating subordinates in business, scholarly papers on economics, psychology, law, ext. There is no effort put towards, plus great moral hesitance against, creating strategy or suffering without benefiting her societal role.
I've been saying it for years. Tanya is, legitimately, the victim in the series. The vast majority of her choices can easily be argued and shown as being done under duress. For those choices that caused damage to people, that weren't under duress? The whole world still just the plaything of Being X, just as much as Tanya is. The people loves and their ends, ultimately, still lay the blame at the feet of Being X. The sole purpose of their world, and every person, being created was to put Tanya through the most twisted of struggle sessions a sociopathic being could conceive of. Tanya did nothing wrong.
Yeah, Being X is ultimately responsible from the start and to how it ends up, however to say that there is no culpability whatsoever for Tanya what with her mass murdering and general disregard for human wellbeing is absurd.
@@beansworth5694 From my point of view, it isn't. None of them are "people." They're created existences that are only as real as Being X needs them to be in order to try and forge connections with Tanya. That was part of my point. The world Tanya came from before had no need of Being anymore. They were self sustaining without any form of "divine intervention" as is forced on to Tanya. She is the only thing that is real in the world that Being X created. Everything else is a fabrication and not real.
@@beansworth5694 She is not a mass murderer. She is killing armed combatants in war. Even the shelling of the city was not an act of murder. The city was full of illegal combatants, and Tanya has proof of that. Video proof, where said illegal combatants gunned down unarmed, and bound, imperial officers, just for laughs, where THE ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY COULD SEE IT. And the city ignored her demands, required by international law, WHICH SHE GOES ON TO STATE, CHAPTER AND VERSE, to stand down, surrender, or evacuate the civilians. So they got shelled.
I mean, multiple times throughout the light novel, she laughs at others suffering and only cares if they live or not if they benefit her in some way. That shows a lack of empathy, which is sociopathy.
I agree. Not a sociopath. She becomes manic, as a side-effect, when using mana to augment her mental and physical processes in the heat of battle. Tanya understands emotions and she understands people. She simply believes that those emotions lead to unproductive conflict and waste. She is able to manipulate people and their emotions quite well, but it is hard to predict the extreme lengths that people will go when they abandon all logic and reason. I am not even sure we can classify Tanya as a psychopath because that requires a lack of a conscience. Tanya always follows the law and does her best not to break any rules. By what other metric can we measure conscience, than by the laws that her society define as "good". Tanya has a strong sense of right and wrong (from a legal stand point). Another major expectation for a psychopath, is that they only get into a relationship to 'use' other people...this is probably true for Tanya, but I think the list of reasons would include the supernatural events of the story.
9:56 This is another thing that the anime just does *_not_* convey at all (not just "not well," it doesn't convey it _AT ALL),_ but that's Tanya's normal voice. She's normally deepening her voice, both to be taken more seriously, and also to be heard on the battlefield. While she's able to keep that gutteral growl going in German all day, she's only just recently learned any amount of Dakian, and so she used her normal tone of voice. It's like if someone from Texas spent their whole life working to sound like a posh Londoner, but the first time they tried to speak Spanish it came out with the obvious drawl of the _Suhthurn_ Yoo-ess of Ayy. What's of more actual note regarding the scene is that Tanya wanted Weiss or Visha to do it, as they're her second in command and adjutant (respectively), and when they question her, she thinks "oh yeah, I should lead by example." What they're actually wondering is "why are we warning them _at all??"_ Got a good comparison, Ainz from Overlord is constantly misunderstood by his underlings as having plans of such lofty vision that they cannot possibly fathom them all, despite the fact that Ainz is an idiot flying by the seat of his pants. Tanya, meanwhile, keeps over-proving her intelligence, so her soldiers keep wondering why she's *_actually_* playing by the Rules of Engagement when she's obviously smart enough to think of every loophole imaginable. And then we get Arene, the loophole that _was_ examined.
11:42 The civilians aren't "trying to protect their homes," they're actively rebelling against the Empire, because Arene _used_ to be a Francois Republic city, roughly... I dunno... *_a hundred and fifty years ago??_* They're digging up their great grandparents' beef for no reason other than a small handful of Republic mages saying that they should do so. While, y'know, using the civilians as *human shields* to prevent the Empire from attacking. Tanya then gave them a number of warnings, both over loudspeaker *_and_* via pamphlet, saying anyone left in the city after (iirc) 3 days will be considered an enemy combatant and dealt with accordingly. In response, the civilians gunned down Imperial POWs and decided to call her bluff. Except it wasn't a bluff. Honestly, even if it *_was_* a bluff, they were stupid as hell to keep all their kids in the city. They should've been evacuated to Francois, but instead were brazenly left smack dab in the middle of a freaking warfront.
word? that's what i was thinking, because tanya didn't seem like she planned it herself entirely. If i remember tanya was looking at her crew when talking about the laws and thinking about who should make the announcement, her whole crew was staring at her like "uhm, you... should def be the one to do it" thats why she put on that slight angry face like "huh? what about my voice?"
@@JesusGonzalez-kj6lj Her crew is to blame for that one for sure. The moment they learned of the loophole, they knew full well whose voice would get the maximum payout.
I disagree with the idea that the anime does not convey at all that it's her normal voice. She does look annoyed when her team makes comments like "Wow have you done theater?" or something like that. But I definitely won't say it's a good way to convey it, it's way too subtle and easy to miss/misinterpret.
Tanya is a case of character layers. From the outside she seems insane or awe inspiring, depending on how you read her performance of the ideal soldier. From the inside she is doing her best to be rational, make good decisions (within what she can see and understand), and tries to give other people the benefit of the doubt. The main problem there is that she applies her world view to other people, who don't subscribe to her hyper rationalist/pseudo free capitalist self identity where all people herself included are resources to be refined and put to their best use. But on an even deeper layer, one that is hard to notice, Tanya is an emotional person. She forms attachments to her squad, has to scramble to justify why she takes bodily risk to save her meat shields, and is generally quick to upset when she thinks a given rule system is spoiling other people's opportunity for social mobility and self improvement. Why do you think she hates communism so much? She's also fond of creature comforts and is paranoid of the future. Critically she treats others exactly as she expects to be treated. People are so used to characters just stating their deepest thoughts aloud that they're not ready for a character who is actively blind to the source of her own feelings and spends a lot of her life holding her emotions up against her economic spread sheets trying to make the numbers connect. She is a comedic contradiction of hyper observance and hyper obliviousness. Some of that misattribution of psychopathy can be put on the anime, where you get very little of Tanya's internal rationalizations and the show leaned into the psycho angle. I'd recommend the manga or the light novel for people who want to get a better sense of how Tanya really ticks. Hint, she has no emotional outlets for her tense child soldier situation and she needs constant reinforcement of her own capabilities. That's why combat is such a rush for her, its affirmation that her plans are working and that she can make it through this safely while also being her emotional outlet. But the war is doomed because the overall strategy of Germania is fucked.
As a person who's been in the military there are certain things that need clarification and context. When her two subordinates go against her orders it's not cut and dry. In the military especially in combat initiative is a double-edged sword if you act on your own against orders and you don't have a good reason that's called insubordination at best. Initiative is a double-edged sword because if everything turns out okay but you don't have a good reason you're going to be in trouble. Because you put the mission and the team in danger. If everything turns out okay and you do have good reasons for what you did and not feelings logical actual reasons then your a hero. But initiative can also turn out bad they could have gotten themselves killed and they would have had no one to blame but themselves because they disobeyed orders but that's just the tip of the iceberg. Oftentimes when people get themselves killed they take others with them because they disobeyed orders based on their feelings and even if they don't get themselves killed they deserve to be punished, court-martial, execution was common in those days especially. As far as sending them to the pill box goes yes there was a chance that they would die but someone had to go and man that pill box. It wasn't optional. It had to be done and what makes two soldiers' lives more important than the next two soldiers' lives. It may sound cold but that is war that is called doing your duty to your country. That badge that she was wearing is akin to a medal of honor the highest ranked officer will salute the lowest ranked enlisted if they have that metal and it's not optional it is required in the military customs and courtesies. Saluting is not just something you do in the military it is a form of respect you may not respect the man but you have to respect the rank you have to respect the uniform and you have to respect the metal. As far as her being a sociopath goes there are plenty of those in every military in every era because as long as you follow the rules of warfare of whatever those are at the time and do your duty professionally to the best of your ability the higher ups don't care whether you are a stone cold killer or not. One of the problems with this anime in some of its characters is that they failed to understand along with other people in today and age that motives, reasons, feelings and all that other stuff does not matter in comparison to actions. What you DO is what really matters. Not what you feel about it. High intensity training is done in the military it's how you weed out the strong from the weak. And it's how you make the weak into the strong as long as they've got heart to keep going. In the military we make boot camp and other training installations such as that as hard as possible without going over the line. In order to prepare and test our military personnel so that when everything becomes real they don't break. And that goes doubly so for our Elite forces like the Seals the Army Rangers the Green Berets Force Recon the Commandos. And that's exactly what she's training this Mage core that she's having is not supposed to be the run of the mill this is supposed to be an Elite Force because it has to be. Also their idea of taking 2 years to train a soldier that only matters if you want to train a soldier to be proficient in all forms of military matters. Everything from digging trenches to filing paperwork. That's not what they're doing here they're training a specialized force and specialized training does not take that long. 36 hours is nothing compared to the US Navy Seals hell week training. Besides she had absolute control over what she was doing if she wants to kill them they'd be dead because she would just shoot at them and not around them. The Avalanche I have to give you that one I think but to be fair she was ready to rescue them even though she didn't look like it. Because she was trying to get them to quit not kill them getting your soldiers killed in training is the Surefire way to court-martial and prison if not execution .? Technically they did follow the rules of War but I'll have to give you that one it wasn't the spirit of the rules. As far as the gun is concerned War trophies are common especially back in those days and it was a good gun and in War you may not always have the option of having the best equipment but if you can take equipment from the enemy and use it yourself that's just common sense. Those innocent people were harboring enemy combatants and by them trying to defend their homes that made them enemies as well. If you give Aid and comfort to the enemy that makes you the enemy. That's still war today. Back in the day the uniformed Army was called regulars the nonuniformed were called Irregulars but they were still the enemy. This is where it starts when you start believing that the enemy you're fighting is evil simply because they're fighting you that's when the justification for breaking the rules of War comes in it may seem like a small thing but him using that trench gun was against the rules of warfare. And that's how it starts once one side starts not following the rules of warfare then others will start not following the rules of warfare because if one person isn't going to what justification does anyone else have. It might be different for us Americans both in this anime and in real life considering that our Wars tend to take place far away but if the war is right on your own home turf it may be very tempting for The Rules to start not mattering at all. She didn't mean genocide she meant finishing off the remaining Armed Forces that had gone into exile that her higher-ups had let get away because of their shortsighted agreement to that armistice. Also while the Armistice applied to the enemy Nation those Armed Forces had gone into exile meaning they had rejected the authority of their Nation and had rejected the armistice thus destroying them might have been Justified. Mary was just crazy not only that but she honestly had no reason to think that Tanya killed her father Yes Tanya had that gun and Mary knew that was her father's gun but in war weapons are taken off the Dead all the time by people who don't even do the killing. Mary just assumed Tanya did it yes she was right of course. But she neglects the fact that her father tried to kill Tanya as well not only that but they're the ones that actually started the war in the first place they drew first blood not Tanya.
Just to let you know in the manga when the officers visit mary sue they explicitly tell her it was the devil of the rhine or tanya, events are a but misconstruded in the anime.
@@angeldude101 Tbf the "antagonist" is just the people who oppose the "protagonist" of the story. Tanya is the protagonist of the story, which make Mary Sue the antagonist. Though, if you look at the broader story, Mary Sue is kind of a "hero" to oppose the "evil" Empire of some short. Although even her superior get damned annoyed by her constant insurbonation. Mary Sue (Sioux) being just overall an unlikable character, and that's not because Tanya is the protagonist, do look very intentional though.
The scene at about 3:00 is not explained well in the anime, she's effectively using magic to dope-up and does this basically anytime you see with a slasher smile in battle.
Also at 9:57 (also not explained well) the voice we typically hear her use is something of a stage-voice, she couldn't use her stage-voice in Dakian because she had barely learned the language.
11:26 the enemy managed to infiltrate Arene and caused a rebel uprising. The empire then dropped dozens maybe even hundreds of fliers warning the citizens of the bombardment, anyone remaining in the city could/would be considered an enemy combatant. And to top it all off the rebel militia started executing POWs when Tanya called for their release.
And what a cocktail of drugs it was equivalent to... all of them psychedelics and enhancers that would turn a normal person into a psychotic over amped monster for a little while. She looks like she is high on combat from the outside, but truth is. she's drugged up to the gills so hard it's a miracle she can even speak at times.
5:08 I think it's less that she wants obedience and more that she doesn't want the consequences of them dying while directly under her command because they refuse to follow orders meant to guarantee their survival. And didn't want the consequences of making another officer suffer because of their insubordinate behavior. It was purely to avoid a hit to her reputation within the military. They were still under her command but because they were being punished for insubordination their sacrifice looks like an unavoidable tragedy.
Those are two things that are not exclusive of each other. You're describing the reason for killing them and the method of killing them. Yes, she didn't want them dying directly under her command. But she still wanted them dead for reasons and ways that do not serve her at all. But people just worship her because she's contrary to Being X I suppose. 🤷🏾♂️
8:00 small corrections: those shells actually came from a nearby artillery company out on training as well, which Tanya convinced of using her trainees as the training target.
Tanya was always a special case for me since she reminds me of one of my favorite characters Ciaphas Cain although she is may more unhinged. Both just want to live a comfortable life in a f-ed up world and every time they think they can have some peace they get send into the next hellhole by their superiors, which they only survive through skill and and a huge portion of dumb luck.
A big difference is Tanya has no illusions about how smart she is compared to those around her, she knows shes the GOAT, where as Cain is incredibly competent but is seemingly weighed down by a massive case of impostor syndrome that cause him to dismiss and brush off every truly brave or heroic thing he's done as just a self serving act or a complete accident, When he is, even though he'd never accept it, a true hero of the Imperium by any reasonable measure.
@@johntowers1213 He took on World Eaters in melee on two seperate occasions and was able to stand his ground and even seemed to win until Jurgen could blast them with his trusty, rusty Melter.
@@unnamed1613 yeah, and hilariously he still considers himself a coward just out to save his own skin... I think his issue is he's what you'd consider a sane man in a universe of psychopaths and nut jobs that would run across a battlefield to head butt a tank in the emperors name.. Amberley Vail has got his number though and see's him for what he actually is despite all his protestations..
Honestly the anime she insane but in the novel she someone I could respect. She logical and hardworking good at her job. But super strict and expect ppl to be good at her job to. Her one fear is incompetence superior. And she logical. If you are a talented and hard working she will do her best to acknowledge you. In one scene she tip the waiter so well after she got off the phone call they assume it was a good one. But she believe in rewarding good service. If your inept you are screw. The type of person I wouldn’t want to be against but honestly in a war someone who side I would want to be on. The anime she hella crazy though. But that mostly due to the magic orb. Her workaholic tendcy make her seem war crazy. Like she like I don’t want to be here. But I can’t show my superior that or else I could ruin my career. She want to show she take initiative.
I had a different take when watching the show. Tanya is only ever efferent never cruel or evil. She always stays on mission and never kills anyone throughout the show that she didn't have to and never goes out of her way to cause pain or suffering always ending things as quickly and effectively as possible. In training she had to make a huge demonstration to maintain discipline given her age and appearance and I doubt she was actually going to kill the guy just scare the shit out of him. During the first episode she was just getting a couple of hot heads who wouldn't follow orders out of her hair before they got her killed, and if they got blown up manning a pillbox instead of some one actually useful so much the better. The city that was destroyed had some major context that was left out of the video. The Republic, one of the Empires enemies, fomented a rebellion in a logistically vital city and sent mages in to make sure the rebellion succeeded right as the Empire fully extended itself. If the Empire didn't take back the city almost immediately than they would have lost everything. In other words the Republic deliberately weaponized civilians and used them as human shields in an attempt to cripple Empire. The Empires response was to declare everyone in the city who refused to evacuate an enemy combatant and shell the shit out of them. Tanya and her unit were sent in to take out the Republic mages to prevent them from interfering with the shelling. None of this was Tanya's fault she just got stuck doing the dirty work after the Republic decided it was a good idea to weaponize a whole cities population. The only fault she had was seeing this kind of thing coming from her knowledge of history and proposing a possible countermeasure. During the Battle of the Fjord where Tanya first took down Colonel Sioux Tanya was completely professional threw out the whole fight. She went in with her unit and took out the coastal guns fighting as little as possible as they did it so that they could complete there mission as fast and safely as possible. As soon as the job was done she immediately broke off combat and retreated with her men. At this point if Sioux was actually doing his job and thinking strait he should have ether rallied his men to try and fight off the invasion or retreated with them to fight another day. Instead he does the worst possible thing he could do at that moment out of a purely emotional outburst and charges at the retreating mages who have nothing to do with the battle going forward and gets himself killed (sorta) leaving his men without a commander in the middle of an Imperial invasion.
I would say that saying she avoids killing anyone she doesn't have to is not very accurate. Tanya is about efficiency, and if the most efficient way wracks up a bunch of corpses, that's what is going to happen. And sure, she'll likely justify it as a short, very brutal war is better than a much longer brutal war. Of course, it is tempered by her desire to live an easy life, as well as her desire for an ordered society where people follow the rules, so she's not going to go the evil route of blood crazed slaughter of innocents. But if a bunch of innocents are in the way of achieving the goal, and the rules say she can take them out, and that's the most effective way to accomplish the goal... you don't want to be one of those innocents, because she's going through to get to where she needs to be. Case in point, the factory she blew up after the child-like voice bit. Those workers didn't need to die, but she deliberately misled them as to what was coming so that they would, to maximize the damage to the enemy and consequently shorten the war.
@@Axterix13 With the factory the voice she uses is her natural speaking voice, remember she's like 12 at the time. She normally deepens her voice to appear professional but because she was speaking in another language she couldn't do that. She tried to get her subordinates to do the announcement first.
0:17 "shes different because shes unhinged" you literally showed 2 mentally insane characters a couple seconds before, shadow and ainz, shadow is absolutely crazy/unhinged and ainz is just crazy
6:24 one guy did survive Tanya's nuke because he was closer to Tanya than he was to the explosion tough he did get the wind knocked out of him and his flight recorder was badly damaged and he probably got PTSD from the whole ordeal 9:22 in the manga Tanya was high off her ass on magic the entire time she was training the 203rd to the point where she didn't remember anything that happened which included what happened in the anime and making the trainees strip naked, tied them up in a barn and torture them for days all so they could in Visha's words "be more resistant to enemy interrogation"
I always read the high off her ass part may also be being X trying to cram faith into her. As she needs to pray to unlock her full power, the magic itself is likely going to be warping her thinking. iirc at some point she even ends up with a cross despite not remembering how and in the manga she is known to go to church a lot. Consciously to shit talk Being X but its hinted she is going when she is a bit out of it and just not remembering it.
For what it's worth, the shotgun thing is a nice detail. IRL the germans tried to get shotguns banned during ww1 because the caused "undue suffering on the battlefield" which is ironic because the germans were gassing soldiers and civilians. This s pre 40's that's why im saying germans and not nazis.
You and Anime Detective are the only ones that do a proper, thorough, and real review of this anime. Thank you for the passion and effort put into this vid. Hope you get more subs soon!
The anime doesn't tell you this, but in the light novel we find out her "crazy" moments in battle is because she's using the magical equivalent of drugs to improve her reaction times and this has the side effect of causing euphoria. So she's not a battle junkie, she's just high as a kite during combat most of the time.
the first 2 she sent wasn't because she just wants absolute obedience, Tanya always thinks about the Maximum Efficiency of her unit, their job was done, but those 2 wanted payback, if they got injured or killed it would be on her record plus they'll have to try a rescue mission further endangering them and losing efficiency. Hell, the way she got rid of them was even at max efficiency, she didn't need to do more but just wait for a bit. She doesn't just want Absolute obedience, she also wants Maximum Efficiency.
6:24 🤓 this is actually not how nukes work, but it's emulating thermobaric explosives also known as vacuum bombs. The basic gist of a vacuum bomb is that it explodes twice. The first explosion disperses flamable aerosol in an area surrounding the point of impact and then the second explosion ignites it creating a giant fireball that burns all of the available oxygen in the dispersion radius of the aerosol. The resulting vacuum is very low pressure and gets rapidly filled with surrounding air creating a secondary implosion that can be powerful enough to level a building.
Tanya is an interesting character, on the surface (mainly in the anime) she comes off as a psychopath who relishes in the killing of her enemies but in the novels she comes off more as a stoic and calculating person who always thinks things through and never does anything without reason. Heck in the novels she is treated as some sort of force of nature who can make a big difference for any battlefield she and her troops happened to be in. Tanya may come off as a crazy little girl but the truth is she is someone who values hard work and proper work ethic over intrusive emotions. For example that guy she nearly killed during training she didn't blow him through a wall because he was insulting her but rather she decided to HARSHLY punish him because he was being insubordinate and undermining her authority as his superior officer. In the anime she is shown being fairly emotional but in the novels she is consistently described as a doll, small, cute and seemingly emotionaless like a doll.
Insane? Naw, Tanya has severe PTSD, an extreme drug addiction as a way to deal with it, and yet is still an solidly professional soldier, a good commander, and is the dream officer for any military. Overall, the only isekai character that even comes close to being one of the most well written "strong" character other than Ainz.
Her character is all over the place. She's mainly portrayed as an uncaring sociopath but has scenes were she greatly cares about her subordinates. And then at the end of the first series she was emotionally distraught that her country wasted the opportunity to actually end the war. Tbf, it's really hard to keep people interested in a true sociopath over an extended period.
I think that last one is more about her understanding of which real world equivalent she's serving. If they didn't win at that point, she could reasonably predict what would come next
I liked the web novel and light novel a lot more. My memory is a bit fuzzy but iirc Mary Sue is so OP in the original web novel that she could not be defeated by Tanya, it turns into a battle of attrition. Tanya intentionally led Mary Sue through Mary's allie territories. and because Mary is so blinded by rage that she caused unfathomable collateral damage to her own side while fighting Tanya in a stalemate tug-of--war for 72 hours. This in turn made Mary's own allies hate her, and the family of those who died in the collateral also hate her. In the end, the magic shield that protected Mary from all of Tanya's attacks, was useless when she was assaulted unexpectedly by her own allies during one night, Mary got killed by her own people. Mary Sue (Faith/Rage/Revenge) counters -> Tanya (Cold Logic), yet ironically Mary's allies (Fear/Hatred/Suspicion) ended-> Mary Sue (Faith/Rage/Revenge). I remember reading the discussion of Mary's end somewhere ages ago. My memory may be inaccurate and unreliable now, so for those who actually remembers the content in the webnovel, correct me if I am wrong. Thank you!
Being X might be a God, but the story rather conclusively proves that it is unworthy of being worshipped. It's clearly just an overgrown toddler throwing a tantrum because one of its toys refuses to do what it wants.
This is one of my favorites. The anime is great and the books are insanely good. I will say that the books give more backstory and details about why Tanya does things, no duh. Don’t get me wrong, she’s still a bit looney, but her brutality and willingness to bend the rules is more than her being a “psychopath.” She’s trying to survive in a world that’s designed to punish her by a god who’s angry because Tanya refuses to believe in him.
Even tho this video gets some things wrong, It does shows that the series is a Banger. I wish you talked about the sound design of the anime because its really amazing. And thank you for not calling her a Nazi. Because she may be a bit evil but she and her Empire really didn't do anything wrong.
I love it how every 6 months someone discovers this and makes a YT vid on it. Tanya is one of the best and most underrated animes because almost nobody is willing to bring it up in normal conversation.
Tanya hates disorder. Not obeying orders leads to chaos. Tanya is a genius with malicious compliance. This why Tanya never breaks any rules or international laws. She learns all the laws, bylaws, and policies to take advantage of every opportunity.
6:34 Tanya was in Norden(Injured) --> Put in the tortu-... I mean as a Jewel tester. --> Transferred to the Rhein where she got the squad(Visha joins in) until frontline stabilised --> Uni arc and her own unit is formed.
I greatly enjoyed the warning she radio'd to the factory, and because she sounded like a little girl they laughed and IGNORED her. Then she SMASHED them...
When you read the manga and can actually read her thoughts😂😂😂😂. Shes just a mixture of unlucky and literally misunderstood by everyone......like not joking she does not want to be a warmonger Almost like momonga from overlord
The biggest kicker about Tanya, is that she's so unhinged, she doesn't even goes into history! Those who know-know, but for the rest of the world, Tanya's shenanigans are so unhinged that people, simply, refuse to believe it and chalk it up to war time propaganda!
Eh, the ending bit is more accurate in that instead of relying upon faith and emotion like Mary (a biblical time, nice) Tanya uses logic & reason the most human of things to defeat an avatar of being X.
The two times in the anime Tanya was wrong was when she kept a war trophy and not disobeying the order to stand down. Tanya is the only character that follows the rules of war and also not let her emotions dictate her actions.
4:17 … daily endurance test for explosions and falling from high up or frontlines evasion test dodging bullets and whatever the enemies throw at you… you pick
Yeah that part where Mary is supposed to be 10x time stronger than Tanya is bullshit. It's at most 3 times. The only reason it looks like more is because Mary went full revenge beast mode. She didn't care if she ran out of mana in the process of nuking Tanya.
8:20 well actually she coordinated a artillery company to start firing away and may or may not have mixed some real shells into the mix, therefore training the artillerymen and also training her soldiers at the same time.
imagine trying to fail a training by utilizing the USMC training module so you can be fired and be forced behind the line, only to spawn a battalion capable of spec ops and camp razing that majorly helped the empire advance their forces.
There is an international law related to war and civilians. If civilians do not take up arms against the enemy soldiers, by that international law they are offered a level of protection against the invading enemy soldiers (not something always supported by soldiers on the battlefield), but the moment civilians take up arms and actively resist in a combat level they are no longer under this level of protection and thus viewed as enemy combatants by the soldiers. What Tanya did and made her men did after the civilians began to retreat, can be viewed as a war crime, but there is a gray area as among those fleeing civilians includes those who took up arms against the soldiers, especially if they continue carrying weapons. So, a gray area. This is also related to resistance fighters, these are civilians, but the moment a civilian takes up arms they become a combatant, and thus international law no longer applies to them and thus goes the shield of protection for those who actually follows those laws. Also, in terms of Tanya's history and the design of the weaponry from what I am seeing. The Empire and its enemies begin with World War One, as can be seen by early Empire soldiers wearing those unique helmets and second as they move on it moves into World War Two in terms of the later style helmet and the tanks that the Empire uses. Many of those laws, that I spoke about War Crimes were established in world around the aftermath of World War One, and seeing how this world was continuing the war into the next one in war development it means that those laws are yet developed. But I can promise that in the aftermath of that war, that those laws would be established and anyone who survives performing such war crimes would be punished in a terms of getting justice and other times just sticking it into the side of their defeated enemy.
As a history nerd, I love the trench shotgun scene because that was an actual complaint from Germany during WWI. They ended up forfeiting the use of mustard gas in a treaty to prevent their enemies from using shotguns, because in the close quarters of trench warfare, it may have been a fair trade. I like to think that Tanya's indignation at the shotgun is because if he gets to use his war crime of a boom-stick, then she should be allowed to order a gas attack to liquefy the enemy from the inside out. Just the one, I mean it's only fair, right? C'mon!
@3:20 this is one of the few times where i wholeheartedly believe the english dub did it better than the sub. When the guy says "out of ammo" Tanya basically replies to him by jumping on his back and whispering in his ear "I don't need ammo." it just comes off so damn creepy its great
I love Tanya. The covers to the manga are so good. I had one printed on a canvas and it hangs in my room. The one with her legs crossed sitting on a high backed chair. It so awesome
World building is awesome, Tanya makes me feel gross. I've seen this character a lot and wanted to know if I should get into this and now I know this ain't for me. Glad you guys like it though, it's pretty cool in other ways. Good video.
By the way just to mention here, this video is just talking about the anime! I know the light novel and manga are very different and maybe i'll cover some day but I just loved season 1 and how different it was to other isekai, also...we just hit 10,000 SUBS! This video did way better than I could've ever imagined, thank you so much for all the support :)
The anime is pretty faithful imo, just less detail etc, as you would probably expect. They're up to book 12 on audible, highly recommend. Tho if you do go that rout, know that about book 8 or 9 they change voice actors and its kinda scuffed for most of that book
Years later and this show is still popular .... they really need to get that 2nd season out there. And when they do, they better still have Monica Real doing Tanya's voice!
Bit of a fan myself, wrote about 343k words of fan-fic about 6 years ago that still gets some hits.
Thank you for making this, it deserves to be remembered for many reasons; for being clever and original, because the anime improved the story-line, and because the animation itself was so damned GOOD. Maybe that is why they never made more - they set such a high standard that it would be too expensive to continue?
Seven nations army Tanya OVA is amazing.
@@dropshotgaming3064 It bummed me though that the anime never showed that Being X is not merely the Abrahamic god, but ALL of them, from Krshna to Odin and Zeus.
@@johnwolf2829 One never knows. Utawarerumono's final season aired 19 years after the previous season ended. Japan's sense of timing (or rather, lack thereof) with anime adaptations is really something else!
Tanya, the isekai protagonist with the two superpowers of 'being actually good at her fucking job' and 'technically speaking not a war crime'.
It's not a war crime the first time perchance?
The first rule of war is to have fun
Like what the Canadian did in the world war, creating a war crime and not being judged as the law banning it hasn't been made yet
@@ThanatosPraetor So you're telling me that Tanya plays the role of Canada in Youjo Senki?
@@cirnotheicefairy3609 Yes, considering us Canadians were the reason why the term 'War Crimes' was coined after WW1.
using a kid voice to announce an attack chief kiss how tanyas mind work no holds bar winner takes all
@@acegear how is she supposed to know how her voice sounds? my voice in my head sounds way different than a recording.
@@LrdBxRckNo because in the anime it’s shown she uses a deeper voice, and in the light novel it’s explained that Tanya tried to deepen her very young voice to sound more professional and to be taken seriously. When she changes her voice to warm the Republican backed Dacian munitions factory. She’s well aware her voice is high pitched and sounds like a little girl because that’s what she wanted.
@@soundwavegamer2321 she's speaking a different "language" i doubt you could keep a voice when you dont know a language well, she was also mad af when her team gives notice to it
@ yes however like in said in the Light Novel that was her actively doing it on purpose
There's plenty of generic isekai protagonists. Sometimes watching a psycho like Tanya is a breath of fresh air.😅
I need names of those generic isekqai anime
@@Fish_man56 FFF trash hero(this is among the best MC i ve seen so far), dungeon odyssey, The greatest estate developer, Skeleton Soldier Couldn’T Protect The Dungeon(awesome manga feel similar to berserk where you have no idea what the bigger picture is), Cosmic Heavenly Demon 3077(goofy and kinda new so not many chapters), The last adventurer, I m really not the demon lords lackey(kinda goofy but it love it), Demon in mount HUA (kind of a redemption arc vibe going for it), Creepy Isekai pharmacist(softcore body horror/mutilation reminds me of Franken Fran a bit), Surviving The Game as a Barbarian, The dark mage's return to enlistment( has the same vibe as FFF trash hero), Return of the Mount Hua sect( same vibe as demon in mount Hua just that the mc is a bigger asshole), The Priest of Corruption( Mother turns out to be freaking cute and artwork is really good), Mashle, One punch man, Mob Pshycho, Return of the Bloodthirsty Police, Tʜᴇ Sᴛʀᴏɴɢᴇsᴛ Hᴇʀᴏ Wʜᴏ Cʀᴀᴠᴇs Rᴇᴠᴇɴɢᴇ( Brutal MC with mild gore), The Death Mage Who Doesn't Want a Fourth Time, Peerless Dad. This should keep you busy for some time, and whe you finish just google to find similar to whatever manga you want, and just like that you get a few good choices.
Suicide Squad Isekai 🤣
why do people call her that, she is just following orders
@@rphb5870 i agree, just because she don't want to die following orders so she has to make an extra effort don't makes her a psycho... on the other hand, praying to god during her killings spree could give the wrong signals, but that isn't her fault XD
Instead of a nuke, I think the description of that spell sounds more like a thermobaric bomb.
This - it is exactly a thermobaric explosion.
Yeah that's what I was saying.
Yeah there's more than a couple bits he gets wrong, either through ignorance or sheer incompetence, however I appreciate his spirit and just choose to overlook it instead
@@cobbleturd6978 definitely not incompetence but rather just being unknowledgeable in the deeper concepts of science/war. He’s reviewing an anime not a historical documentary, so I agree it’s well worth overlooking in this context.
@BlueSoulGamer I feel if you're reviewing an anime with so much inspiration from history and countless little nods that would make any fan of modern history giggle. It would be competent to do a little fact-finding before you publish your review. I digress anyway. More just meant it in the figure of speech, which it's usually used in.
Just to clarify for anyone who reads this. The anime version of Tanya is a case of media differences, in the light novel...which is based off the creator's web novel and is a more refined version of said web novel much like Overlord is the same way, and in the manga Tanya is nowhere NEAR as psychotic looking and acting. In fact the thing with the two soldiers who disobey orders? Yeah the anime makes it so she did it all on purpose but in the light novel and manga it was just a case of REALLY bad luck for them as she just didn't want to deal with them disobeying orders during combat and had them removed from her platoon to prevent discord.
Tanya DOES have sociopathic traits but a lot of the trouble that falls Tanya's way is due to her belief in "Signaling Theory", and it causes a LOT of misunderstandings between her and the upper brass that puts her exactly where she DOESN'T want to be. In the light novel and manga she's actually rather fond of Viktoriya/Visha (her nickname), the girl that is pretty much always around her and makes her coffee which is one of her favorite things...Visha makes it exactly how she likes it instead of loading it up with sugar and cream like others do because they think she'll want it super sweet cause she's so young. In a scene in the manga where Being X shows the possible life Tanya could have had in her old life as a salaryman, his eventual wife looks EXACTLY like Visha. In the anime she's much colder to her and all the slasher smiles are cranked to 11.
In the light novel and manga during the mission where she blows herself up she actually uses what's called "Doping with magical interference" to enhance her abilities...so her mind takes a hit during that as she's quite literally doped up on magic to increase her reaction time, her instantaneous strength, and turns down her ability to feel pain. The light novel even outright says that when she feels pain from forcing open her magic circuits with those enhancing formulas she uses "Intracerebral narcotics"....she uses a magic formula directly on her brain to deaden her ability to feel pain but the light novel OUTRIGHT calls the formula a "narcotic" so yeah....mental judgment will not be as good as normal for her.
The anime, while very good, takes all the sociopathic tendencies that were there in the light novel and cranks them up to 11...this is NOT helped by the fact her Japanese VA is the same woman who voices Clementine from Overlord...the crazy blond that Ainz hugged to the point her organs came out her mouth.
yeah it's a shame that in the anime there wasn't any mention about mental doping magic and being literally on drugs to fight (it happened in WW2 that soldiers fought on drugs). And it's really effective if she was to fake her insanity for putting fear on the enemy's mind
This why its funny when people discus her because for manga/novel readers have such a different view of her then the anime watchers. (and a lot of times when shes discussed they always seem to reference her anime version)
@@mbos14 Oh that's easy to explain, the anime version is the most easy to access. Even manga readers don't always read the light novels or in the case of some series, the light novels never make it over. Lord Marksman and the Vandadis is a series like that, the manga and even the anime for it leave it off for the OG light novel to finish up same for Hybrid x Heart, hell Hybrid x Heart only has 4 volumes of manga and those two series don't have the light novel in the US. The anime for many series is easier to access and get into than the manga and the manga is easier to get into than the light novels.
Also the use of her Slasher Smile in the advertising for the anime probably helped, she's pretty much known for her anime's Slasher Smile.
Personally I enjoy seeing all the versions of the media...I'm super miffed the Saga of Tanya the Evil movie hasn't been released on physical media like DVD or Bluray in the US yet when Goblin Slayer's movie was already.
I enjoy the fact that in the Manga for Saga of Tanya the Evil they regularly have cartoony animal versions of the characters to explain military things, I find it funny as I grew up with Looney Tunes and the like.
@@ShinKyuubi Sure its easy to explain, but I concur with the other guy that it is pretty funny in the case of Tanya. Since what is omitted is fundamental to how one understands certain key aspects of the setting.
A simple omission that completely changes how people approach a character as much as it does here with Tanya, is not anywhere near as common as people simply getting a somewhat different version due to having or having not red or watched the other versions of whatever story.
@@whyjnot420 That is true, Tanya is one of the most extreme cases I've seen of it. TVTropes has a page about that kind of thing, her page specifically under characters says "Adaptional Jerkass" and "Adaptional Villainy"
The ironic thing is the psychopathic character is ironically the most likable character in this anime because she does keep a cool head about her situation while everyone else just does what makes them feel good.
Yeah Tanya's biggest problem, is ironically that they are bad at hiding their real feelings.
Who told him to take full responsibility for firing someone? And also, he decided to start trash talking a divine being.
Ironically, if they acted less like a psychopath (even if they are one) and even feigned compassion, they wouldn't have gotten themselves in such insane situations.
@@Otgel He worked in HR, it was literally in his job description to fire people and one of his core principles is to do his job well. Having a person at least partially dedicated to that task is far from uncommon in larger companies.
Personally I think Tanya is more of a sociopath than a psychopath tbh. Both before resurrection and after, they show little to no empathy. Even times when Tanya is obviously concerned with members of her battalion, it seems more like she is a craftsman who is concerned for their tools rather than a commander concerned for her men.
edit: She really is her own worst enemy though.
She's also not that psychotic in the manga or novel. Hell, she's almost painted as cute in the manga. The pillbox thing at the start of the anime was an accident in the other adaptations.
I dunno about the most likeable. Lt. Squish (Visha) is just too adorable.
@@whiterabbit75 Well you'll get the point Tanya honestly does seem to be the only seeing person on the battlefield most of the time
Also one additional fact, she doesn't just have to pray in order to use that computation orb, she's FORCED to pray, as soon as she starts pouring mana into it she somewhat loses her mind temporarily and becomes a fanatic with her prayers in order to use the Type-95. That's why she also keeps a regular computational Orb with her that she uses for the most part. The Type-95 is only for emergencies for her. She doesn't want to lose her mind by using the Type-95 as Tanya values individual thought and independence.
Surprisingly, Mary isn't as much of a threat as the anime made her out to me. She's more of a mild inconvenience for Tanya in the LN. She's tanky af and does have her big laser beam attacks, but she's always doing something dumb that her commander hates and is constantly thwarted by Tanya and her mage battalion.
The trap that the Type-95 represents is that the more she uses it, the more faith is forced upon her. It is literally enslaving her to the faith Being X demands.
@@fenixtorador Mary just isn't that good at finding loopholes in orders, something Tanya seems to be doing on regular basis.
@@ceu160193because unlike Mary who is a petulant child who only seeking revenge because she sees the world in black and white considering she thinks a Federation political officer is her friend. Tanya on the other hand is a thirty year old man’s mind inside a teenage girls body. She understands how to flex the rules and brigadier General Romel love how she’s a loyal Imperial hunting dog that he can let loss and she while show excellent results.
@@ceu160193 Tanya is an armored turret with a very high degree of accuracy. Mary is a loose cannon who is far more dangerous to her allies than her enemies. Her side LOATHES her as a result.
5:42 quick correction: Viktoriya was surely trying to be _friendly,_ but those two guys had volunteered (like Tanya), while Visha was conscripted. So they had much better training, and looked down on Visha for being a conscript (and a Russy one at that), while also hating Tanya for being higher ranked despite being younger. Because they "earned" their ranks by barking the loudest, while Tanya studied the hardest and Visha (as we see later on) followed in Tanya's footsteps, working hard and learning hard.
The funniest thing about anime episode 1 is when Tanya starts drawing her sword, then realizes her arms are simply too short, after which she's never seen wearing the sword again even though her rank allows it.
@@TrueFork yup yup yup
@@TrueForkcan't she just ask for a shorter one lol
It's the user that counts not the length that matters
Being X basically just evolved Tanya's ideology from past reincarnation from Atheist Capitalism to Atheist Super Capitalism.
From the way God constantly provoke him i always asume this was always his plan all along. To create a demonlord for humanity to team up and defeat it in his name.
@@luckydrag7273 that makes more sense than what the show presents at surface level.
@@luckydrag7273 how much karma would it be if Tanya just ended up obliterating that entire world? lmao
@@vinsonli302 Wouldnt surprise me if she did. Id love to watch that
@@TotallyNotAPie Considering her mage potential is A before she even became a teen, one can wonder how far her power can grow by the time of adulthood.
9:00 it's also worth mentioning that Tanya designed her month of training after the memetic training regime of the US Navy SEALS known as Hell Week. Instead of deep sea speed diving to acclimate to sudden pressure changes, she's got them doing high altitude sprints to cover the same idea. Then there's the live munitions practice, the torture resistance training, and everything else. She's psychotic, no doubt, but she's got surprisingly good reasons to base her insanity.
What is really funny is that every Mage that went through this training will survive the war. Most new soldiers that did not go through Tanya specific training will die on the battlefield or a weird disease Mages get if they don’t kill a certain amount of people during extreme stress.
The true power of a Mage is not shown until book 13 of the Light Novels.
Her "good reasons" for this training were that she was hoping to fail enough of them that the unit couldn´t be established, if memory serves right. However, enough of them passed because, and this is more speculation on my part than having read it anywhere, they were kids raised in an imperialistc country in the middle of a war. Meaning, they were in fact motivated enough to get through the training, which probably screwed with Tanya´s plans.
@@joshportal2808 no they suffered allot of attrition during their recon in force in the western campaign and also in the East against the Federation. Replacements are also not in a position to slowly acclimate and be trained to the same standard so the battalion strength is actually slowly sapped away.
@@Cecil97 yeah, they do take losses more and more as time goes on, but iirc that first group of soldiers she trained made it out with career ending injuries and not deaths. While the fresh faces who didn't get the Month of Tanya™ were just meat to the grinder.
@@katamariroller2837 When they completed it, she changed it to keep them alive so she had plenty of meat shields. She keeps them alive because she doesn't want the bosses to think she is a bad leader
In the novel it is stated that Tanya dose not have that much magic power she is just so good at using it that she dose not run out
like gojo?
@sebas.tian. yes like gojo
Her magical aptitude is A, so, at the top. Not S, but close.
@@ceu160193 I agree. Both points make it so she can rival and best the S tier mages. Mostly because most mages in the story either has the mind but not the power, or the power but not the mind.
Yep, her amount of magic power is bellow average in her battalion. Only thing that makes it seems like she has way more than everyone is that she can store her extra magic in that blessed computational jewel
One of the key reasons Tanya won against Mary is also the fact that Mary is a legit kid, while Tanya has over 50 year of expirience, but possesing the body of an agile, young girl.
Still, how much you have to fail, when you literally given power of god to beat Tanya and still screw up and die? Tanya may have 50 years of experience, but not in magic. In a way, they are both like puppets being X has to fight for it's amusement.
Tanya won against Mary because Mary is all the things people accuse Tanya of, she is insane homicidal maniac that commits war crimes and doesn't care she is killing civilians because she is a zealot that can do no wrong, she lost because she had zero self control or discipline and only lasted as long as she did because of divine intervention where as Tanya has survived and thrived in spite of it via being disciplined.
@@ceu160193 Perhaps not, but the previous *life* experience helps a lot in understanding the mage part. I think it is more similar to a similar field career change rather than a completely different one.
@@ceu160193 A key thing to remember is that Being X doesn't want Tanya to die. He wants the guy to believe in gods, to test the theory that misery will make people turn to gods.
nah tanya survived because he/she is beeing x‘s favorite
"she is insane"
she is basicly the only sane and smart protag in anime.
only reason she is insane is because everytime she goes to war she drugs herself.
not sane but smart yeah
Real
@@nikolakhizanishvili1332She is perfectly sane, immoral perhaps, somewhat unhinged maybe, but sane.
@@AnonD38 Saw the video and these were my thoughts exactly. Reading through the light novel I have to say that guy's way of thinking is rational to the extreme whithout being held back by emotions which makes other people perceive him as insane. Actually based on how he treats people who actually do their jobs, I'd take him as my boss over most other people without a second thought. He may think at one moment that his subordinates are useful sandbags to catch bullets meant for him, but at the same time he realizes that preserving them as valuable assets to keep him alive he does everything to keep his men alive.
the story is about Rational and Emotional behavior and the conflict between them in human. the all business no emotion boss who fire people is not doing anything wrong, but seem cruel and inhumane, and the lazy worker who murder their boss because they got fired is irrational and acting on raw emotion is doing the wrong thing, yet there is humanity behind his emotion. there are many of these examples happen in the story, where one party will act on one emotion and the other will act on their rationality.
It's also about misunderstandings to a basically meta-level.
0:45 I think in the LN it is even mentioned that “Tanya” covered for the guy and did a bunch of his work. Not really out of any care for him mind you. He was just thinking about the bottom line and making sure his department looked good for the higher ups.
But still the guy fired is a POS.
The dude that got fired was, depending on which source material you pull from, either a drug addict, a gambling addict, or so damn lazy that he was constantly missing days of work, and only doing a half-assed job whenever he _did_ come in to work. And this wasn't his first offense, this was his third or fourth chance and that's why Tanya kicked him to the curb. It was, for a while, less expensive to keep him on board and for Tanya to pick up his slack than it was to bring in a new hire to learn the ropes, but with all the chances he wasted, that was no longer the case. Better to start fresh with someone new, who is hopefully motivated enough to do the work.
Also to mention, but apparently it's really hard for a company to fire somebody in Japan. So that's probably why that guy was given several chances to fix himself.
@@Ryan.2 that’s simply not true, it’s hard to quit companies in Japan, in fact there are companies created with the sole purpose of helping people quit because a lot of companies will do really nasty underhanded stuff to people who quit, but fired? Nah they can fire you pretty easily
@@3adgamd3r If it was easy to fire people then some companies wouldn't force their workers to take on mind numbing and pointless jobs that are specifically designed to convince them to quit on their own accord.
@@Ryan.2 they absolutely would, there’s a very weird punishment culture in Japan, like one time they punished a train conductor for being a minute late by making him write essays about how much of a failure he is and shouting at him for like 12 hours a day for about a month, this caused him to develop an anxiety disorder, and when he saw he was going to be behind schedule again, he pushed the train faster than it was meant to, which caused it to derail and ended the lives of a bunch of people
Going straight for the Jugular here, the story of Tanya here is best seen in the light of the Light Novels as it also lets you know her thinking processes and the reasons for why she does what she does. She is also only borderline when it comes to being psychotic, in so far as she is always trying, (and nearly always failing), to find the path that leads to a safe position as far away from the front lines of this world war as possible. The psychotic-ness of Tanya is mainly coming from her knowledge of how WWI and WWII played out in her previous life, and her trying to reconcile that with the evolving history of her new world where WWI&II seem to be combined into one war. She has a general sense of where the war is going to go, based on her previous life's knowledge, but she's in a position where she can't do much about the steering of her Empire's responses to the war, and that it is always revealed in hindsight that Tanya ends up being correct in what will happen in the war before it does, yet her superior's never seem to believe that anything she has to say on a continuing basis will still continue to be right, even when it does continue to be correct.
The illustrations in both the Light Novel and in the Manga's seem to best portray the story of Tanya, whereas the anime passionately shoves all of that out the airlock in favour of a much more simplified looking story, where Tanya's borderline psychosis is cranked up to absolutely Looney-tune proportions, and it does a real disservice to what is an otherwise well done and thought out Isekai storyline! Like what happened in Hellsing when they re-did the complete anime storyline in Hellsing: Ultimate, I truly hope that they re-do Tanya with a more properly translated title and have it practically copy the way the story is portrayed in the Light Novels and the Manga. To do otherwise I feel would be a major loss for this series!
She's not insane, shes hyper sane, she's extremely logical and is capable of putting her emotions & conventional morals aside for her true value of being a rational person.
Hyper sane XD, I'd agree she's super rational
I would agree with you if Tanya wasn't portrayed as enjoying his vileness. He is extremely sociopathic behind its logical and pragmatic masquerade usually making decisions that seemed logical but are outright unhinged (The story is call "Tanya the Evil"; nothing subtle about this point).
Anyways, this is one of my favorite animes, I really enjoy how different it is from all the other isekai out there and the writing is noticeable inspired. I love that despite the main character being a psychopath it is still human with so much more to his persona. And well fleshed out war stories are always interesting.
that's certainly a strong part of her character, but its hard to deny she/he does have the heart of a Berserker to call on when its needed, which is anything but hyper rational.
Nothing she does is rational.
@@primary2630No she's very rational and logical. Maybe watch the show again. Pay attention this time to her inner monologues.
I would argue that being X is the villain not tanya, tanya just wants to stop the war, being x wants it to continue just to spite one person.
also from tanya's perspective being x is the devil as he forced them to live a second live in awful conditions and let's human kill each other just to sprite her, then even gives 10x the power to person who want's her dead just to try to force her to have faith in him.
Tanya isn't a saint, but she isn't meant to be, she was a person of logic and facts, with a willingness to do the jobs overs dont have the courage to do. in return she get's put into life and death situations and almost killed multiple times by people who run on faith and emotions, showing that if she was in charge the war would have ended by now and she would have won against being X
So, I haven't read the light novel, but in the manga the gods (cause there's more than Being X) notice, that faith starts inreasing due to the war and Tanya's actions, who they see as an apostle whom Being X granted a miracle, so they think, hey let's make more apostles and decide to create three miracles by granting a wish each to three people. The wishes that were granted were those of Anson Sue, his wife and his daughter Mary Sue, all three ended up buffing Mary, which is why she is so busted.
They're not as petty as Being X is in the anime, but they're utterly amoral and only interested in receiving faith from mortals.
@mairain6443 oh yeah 100% Tanya isn't the true villain, it's being x. I appreciate you not saying she's a saint because she isn't but it makes sense, she's not sane, she's rational and Being X is...yea the main villain and that's indisputable. It's called 'Tanya the evil'but I don't think she's evil, she's fucking nuts at times but still 🤣
@@RyHoppoalso the Tanya the evil technically just a tittle that got added in English cause the tittle of the light novel was only youjo senki aka warchronicles or war diary of a young/little girl. The Tanya the evil part was added to only be eye catching, and i really suggest you read the novel if u can get your hands on it if u want to see unfiltered tanya and in general a lot of missing detail cause unfortunately youjo senki is one of thoose works that each adaptation is different for some reason. But yeh she is quite well written
@@MarcelJ. Actually, all the "other" gods are just aspects of Being X. He's literally just split himself into smaller pieces to talk with himself, and also so these aspects don't have the omniscience of his full form.
@@SuperiorPosterior ...I can see it.
She is not insane. She is a complete rationalist.
sane ppl will be called insane when the world goes insane itself
And a Nationalist too
If by rationalist you mean very constricted personality doin' stuff that might advance her station yes, but also she's a trillon neuromorphic tokens short of a complete person and not making up the debt.
@@zredplayer she's not a nationalist, she pretends to be a nationalist because it promises her a good life, IF the empire wins the war. When in rome, do as the romans do. She's an opportunist and will drop her country if the need arises (which she also does eventually).
@Vicariun ouch Thats maybe ture. But idk. Show the Manga of this anime something like this?
if you like the anime, you should check out the manga too. They're both very different despite both being adaptations of the same light novel, from what I've seen the anime cuts out a few arcs, along with portraying Tanya as an unhinged and war-mongering psychopath. Whereas the manga leaves those arcs in and portrays Tanya as a cold and calculated psychopath, using everybody as tools to protect herself from danger.
Those were just some examples, but there's more differences I left out, so go read the manga.
TLDR: Tanya isn't a sadist
In the light novel, Tanya is the Asian moral ideal of social-face put to its logical extreme; she believes that striving to be the objectively best as whatever social role you fulfill is the most important for being a good person. In her previous life, she chose to be a corporate businessman because that was the best way she could fulfill a role in society with the greatest objective measure of success, money. When she is put into a country with total-war on the horizon, the only path for her moral fulfillment is being a soldier. As far as volume 17, children with magical potential are drafted far younger than non-magical citizens and it is implied that Tanya, despite being female and a child, would have eventually been drafted; leaving Tanya with two options, be an orphan without any social value (measured by money) then be forced into conscription with almost zero path towards promotion, or voluntarily join the army in hopes of getting promoted enough to enhance her chances of surviving the bloodbath of war. Keep in mind that the era Tanya is in has very little opportunities for female employment, especially for orphans who can't outright afford formal education.
When Tanya becomes a solder, she has to emotionally reconcile her new duty to serve a societal role of protecting her employers (the people of the empire) against a war that causes the mass destruction of human potential (ability to achieve positive social-face). Every book has her internally battling over her and the army's grinding down of young productive men, allies and enemies alike (the exception being communists, their society does nothing but destroy people's will to achieve positive social face)
[spoilers] Tanya's major goal, starting from book 14 or 15, is to defect from the empire. Her desire to quit was because a partial coup by the military high command trying to negotiate an end of the war failed.
Tanya isn't a sadist who desires death and bloodshed, she is someone who is put under deep moral strain by this war and has long since suppressed her human reactions to war.
Additional note: Everything she does that is considered sadistic is done with a reason, purpose, and literal citation to real-world military battles military strategies, military documentaries, books on cultivating subordinates in business, scholarly papers on economics, psychology, law, ext. There is no effort put towards, plus great moral hesitance against, creating strategy or suffering without benefiting her societal role.
I've been saying it for years. Tanya is, legitimately, the victim in the series. The vast majority of her choices can easily be argued and shown as being done under duress.
For those choices that caused damage to people, that weren't under duress? The whole world still just the plaything of Being X, just as much as Tanya is. The people loves and their ends, ultimately, still lay the blame at the feet of Being X. The sole purpose of their world, and every person, being created was to put Tanya through the most twisted of struggle sessions a sociopathic being could conceive of.
Tanya did nothing wrong.
Yeah, Being X is ultimately responsible from the start and to how it ends up, however to say that there is no culpability whatsoever for Tanya what with her mass murdering and general disregard for human wellbeing is absurd.
@@beansworth5694 From my point of view, it isn't. None of them are "people." They're created existences that are only as real as Being X needs them to be in order to try and forge connections with Tanya. That was part of my point. The world Tanya came from before had no need of Being anymore. They were self sustaining without any form of "divine intervention" as is forced on to Tanya.
She is the only thing that is real in the world that Being X created. Everything else is a fabrication and not real.
@@beansworth5694 She is not a mass murderer. She is killing armed combatants in war. Even the shelling of the city was not an act of murder. The city was full of illegal combatants, and Tanya has proof of that. Video proof, where said illegal combatants gunned down unarmed, and bound, imperial officers, just for laughs, where THE ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY COULD SEE IT.
And the city ignored her demands, required by international law, WHICH SHE GOES ON TO STATE, CHAPTER AND VERSE, to stand down, surrender, or evacuate the civilians.
So they got shelled.
She (He) is not sociopath she(He) is Machiavellist & a rational thinker.
I mean, multiple times throughout the light novel, she laughs at others suffering and only cares if they live or not if they benefit her in some way. That shows a lack of empathy, which is sociopathy.
@@shigekazusan3103 no. Sociopaths are unstable. Shes a psychopath
I agree. Not a sociopath. She becomes manic, as a side-effect, when using mana to augment her mental and physical processes in the heat of battle.
Tanya understands emotions and she understands people. She simply believes that those emotions lead to unproductive conflict and waste. She is able to manipulate people and their emotions quite well, but it is hard to predict the extreme lengths that people will go when they abandon all logic and reason.
I am not even sure we can classify Tanya as a psychopath because that requires a lack of a conscience. Tanya always follows the law and does her best not to break any rules. By what other metric can we measure conscience, than by the laws that her society define as "good". Tanya has a strong sense of right and wrong (from a legal stand point).
Another major expectation for a psychopath, is that they only get into a relationship to 'use' other people...this is probably true for Tanya, but I think the list of reasons would include the supernatural events of the story.
I'm a sociopath sociopath are Machiavelli Nietzsche and pure logic
9:56 This is another thing that the anime just does *_not_* convey at all (not just "not well," it doesn't convey it _AT ALL),_ but that's Tanya's normal voice. She's normally deepening her voice, both to be taken more seriously, and also to be heard on the battlefield. While she's able to keep that gutteral growl going in German all day, she's only just recently learned any amount of Dakian, and so she used her normal tone of voice.
It's like if someone from Texas spent their whole life working to sound like a posh Londoner, but the first time they tried to speak Spanish it came out with the obvious drawl of the _Suhthurn_ Yoo-ess of Ayy.
What's of more actual note regarding the scene is that Tanya wanted Weiss or Visha to do it, as they're her second in command and adjutant (respectively), and when they question her, she thinks "oh yeah, I should lead by example." What they're actually wondering is "why are we warning them _at all??"_
Got a good comparison, Ainz from Overlord is constantly misunderstood by his underlings as having plans of such lofty vision that they cannot possibly fathom them all, despite the fact that Ainz is an idiot flying by the seat of his pants. Tanya, meanwhile, keeps over-proving her intelligence, so her soldiers keep wondering why she's *_actually_* playing by the Rules of Engagement when she's obviously smart enough to think of every loophole imaginable.
And then we get Arene, the loophole that _was_ examined.
11:42 The civilians aren't "trying to protect their homes," they're actively rebelling against the Empire, because Arene _used_ to be a Francois Republic city, roughly... I dunno... *_a hundred and fifty years ago??_* They're digging up their great grandparents' beef for no reason other than a small handful of Republic mages saying that they should do so. While, y'know, using the civilians as *human shields* to prevent the Empire from attacking. Tanya then gave them a number of warnings, both over loudspeaker *_and_* via pamphlet, saying anyone left in the city after (iirc) 3 days will be considered an enemy combatant and dealt with accordingly.
In response, the civilians gunned down Imperial POWs and decided to call her bluff. Except it wasn't a bluff.
Honestly, even if it *_was_* a bluff, they were stupid as hell to keep all their kids in the city. They should've been evacuated to Francois, but instead were brazenly left smack dab in the middle of a freaking warfront.
the subtitles are confusing, surely she doesn't start with "instructor" - sensei - but seisei (誓い) "declaration"
word? that's what i was thinking, because tanya didn't seem like she planned it herself entirely. If i remember tanya was looking at her crew when talking about the laws and thinking about who should make the announcement, her whole crew was staring at her like "uhm, you... should def be the one to do it" thats why she put on that slight angry face like "huh? what about my voice?"
@@JesusGonzalez-kj6lj Her crew is to blame for that one for sure. The moment they learned of the loophole, they knew full well whose voice would get the maximum payout.
I disagree with the idea that the anime does not convey at all that it's her normal voice. She does look annoyed when her team makes comments like "Wow have you done theater?" or something like that. But I definitely won't say it's a good way to convey it, it's way too subtle and easy to miss/misinterpret.
Tanya is a case of character layers. From the outside she seems insane or awe inspiring, depending on how you read her performance of the ideal soldier. From the inside she is doing her best to be rational, make good decisions (within what she can see and understand), and tries to give other people the benefit of the doubt. The main problem there is that she applies her world view to other people, who don't subscribe to her hyper rationalist/pseudo free capitalist self identity where all people herself included are resources to be refined and put to their best use.
But on an even deeper layer, one that is hard to notice, Tanya is an emotional person. She forms attachments to her squad, has to scramble to justify why she takes bodily risk to save her meat shields, and is generally quick to upset when she thinks a given rule system is spoiling other people's opportunity for social mobility and self improvement. Why do you think she hates communism so much? She's also fond of creature comforts and is paranoid of the future. Critically she treats others exactly as she expects to be treated.
People are so used to characters just stating their deepest thoughts aloud that they're not ready for a character who is actively blind to the source of her own feelings and spends a lot of her life holding her emotions up against her economic spread sheets trying to make the numbers connect. She is a comedic contradiction of hyper observance and hyper obliviousness. Some of that misattribution of psychopathy can be put on the anime, where you get very little of Tanya's internal rationalizations and the show leaned into the psycho angle. I'd recommend the manga or the light novel for people who want to get a better sense of how Tanya really ticks. Hint, she has no emotional outlets for her tense child soldier situation and she needs constant reinforcement of her own capabilities. That's why combat is such a rush for her, its affirmation that her plans are working and that she can make it through this safely while also being her emotional outlet. But the war is doomed because the overall strategy of Germania is fucked.
As a person who's been in the military there are certain things that need clarification and context.
When her two subordinates go against her orders it's not cut and dry. In the military especially in combat initiative is a double-edged sword if you act on your own against orders and you don't have a good reason that's called insubordination at best.
Initiative is a double-edged sword because if everything turns out okay but you don't have a good reason you're going to be in trouble. Because you put the mission and the team in danger.
If everything turns out okay and you do have good reasons for what you did and not feelings logical actual reasons then your a hero.
But initiative can also turn out bad they could have gotten themselves killed and they would have had no one to blame but themselves because they disobeyed orders but that's just the tip of the iceberg. Oftentimes when people get themselves killed they take others with them because they disobeyed orders based on their feelings and even if they don't get themselves killed they deserve to be punished, court-martial, execution was common in those days especially.
As far as sending them to the pill box goes yes there was a chance that they would die but someone had to go and man that pill box. It wasn't optional. It had to be done and what makes two soldiers' lives more important than the next two soldiers' lives. It may sound cold but that is war that is called doing your duty to your country.
That badge that she was wearing is akin to a medal of honor the highest ranked officer will salute the lowest ranked enlisted if they have that metal and it's not optional it is required in the military customs and courtesies.
Saluting is not just something you do in the military it is a form of respect you may not respect the man but you have to respect the rank you have to respect the uniform and you have to respect the metal.
As far as her being a sociopath goes there are plenty of those in every military in every era because as long as you follow the rules of warfare of whatever those are at the time and do your duty professionally to the best of your ability the higher ups don't care whether you are a stone cold killer or not.
One of the problems with this anime in some of its characters is that they failed to understand along with other people in today and age that motives, reasons, feelings and all that other stuff does not matter in comparison to actions. What you DO is what really matters. Not what you feel about it.
High intensity training is done in the military it's how you weed out the strong from the weak. And it's how you make the weak into the strong as long as they've got heart to keep going.
In the military we make boot camp and other training installations such as that as hard as possible without going over the line. In order to prepare and test our military personnel so that when everything becomes real they don't break.
And that goes doubly so for our Elite forces like the Seals the Army Rangers the Green Berets Force Recon the Commandos.
And that's exactly what she's training this Mage core that she's having is not supposed to be the run of the mill this is supposed to be an Elite Force because it has to be.
Also their idea of taking 2 years to train a soldier that only matters if you want to train a soldier to be proficient in all forms of military matters. Everything from digging trenches to filing paperwork.
That's not what they're doing here they're training a specialized force and specialized training does not take that long.
36 hours is nothing compared to the US Navy Seals hell week training. Besides she had absolute control over what she was doing if she wants to kill them they'd be dead because she would just shoot at them and not around them.
The Avalanche I have to give you that one I think but to be fair she was ready to rescue them even though she didn't look like it. Because she was trying to get them to quit not kill them getting your soldiers killed in training is the Surefire way to court-martial and prison if not execution .?
Technically they did follow the rules of War but I'll have to give you that one it wasn't the spirit of the rules.
As far as the gun is concerned War trophies are common especially back in those days and it was a good gun and in War you may not always have the option of having the best equipment but if you can take equipment from the enemy and use it yourself that's just common sense.
Those innocent people were harboring enemy combatants and by them trying to defend their homes that made them enemies as well. If you give Aid and comfort to the enemy that makes you the enemy. That's still war today. Back in the day the uniformed Army was called regulars the nonuniformed were called Irregulars but they were still the enemy.
This is where it starts when you start believing that the enemy you're fighting is evil simply because they're fighting you that's when the justification for breaking the rules of War comes in it may seem like a small thing but him using that trench gun was against the rules of warfare.
And that's how it starts once one side starts not following the rules of warfare then others will start not following the rules of warfare because if one person isn't going to what justification does anyone else have. It might be different for us Americans both in this anime and in real life considering that our Wars tend to take place far away but if the war is right on your own home turf it may be very tempting for The Rules to start not mattering at all.
She didn't mean genocide she meant finishing off the remaining Armed Forces that had gone into exile that her higher-ups had let get away because of their shortsighted agreement to that armistice. Also while the Armistice applied to the enemy Nation those Armed Forces had gone into exile meaning they had rejected the authority of their Nation and had rejected the armistice thus destroying them might have been Justified.
Mary was just crazy not only that but she honestly had no reason to think that Tanya killed her father Yes Tanya had that gun and Mary knew that was her father's gun but in war weapons are taken off the Dead all the time by people who don't even do the killing. Mary just assumed Tanya did it yes she was right of course. But she neglects the fact that her father tried to kill Tanya as well not only that but they're the ones that actually started the war in the first place they drew first blood not Tanya.
Bravo well said.
Just to let you know in the manga when the officers visit mary sue they explicitly tell her it was the devil of the rhine or tanya, events are a but misconstruded in the anime.
@@the_fat_hans7755 thank you i have not read the manga that plot hole in the anime always bugged me
Tanya is so strong that even being a literal Mary Sue can't help you.
It's honestly pretty amazing that the main antagonist for the movie is literally called "Mary Sue." That _had_ to have been intentional.
@@angeldude101 Tbf the "antagonist" is just the people who oppose the "protagonist" of the story. Tanya is the protagonist of the story, which make Mary Sue the antagonist. Though, if you look at the broader story, Mary Sue is kind of a "hero" to oppose the "evil" Empire of some short. Although even her superior get damned annoyed by her constant insurbonation. Mary Sue (Sioux) being just overall an unlikable character, and that's not because Tanya is the protagonist, do look very intentional though.
Honestly she might actually not be the most unhinged, there are a lot more characters unhinged than her.
Berserk
We love our unhinged, child laborer war criminal devil
The scene at about 3:00 is not explained well in the anime, she's effectively using magic to dope-up and does this basically anytime you see with a slasher smile in battle.
Also at 9:57 (also not explained well) the voice we typically hear her use is something of a stage-voice, she couldn't use her stage-voice in Dakian because she had barely learned the language.
11:26 the enemy managed to infiltrate Arene and caused a rebel uprising. The empire then dropped dozens maybe even hundreds of fliers warning the citizens of the bombardment, anyone remaining in the city could/would be considered an enemy combatant. And to top it all off the rebel militia started executing POWs when Tanya called for their release.
And what a cocktail of drugs it was equivalent to... all of them psychedelics and enhancers that would turn a normal person into a psychotic over amped monster for a little while.
She looks like she is high on combat from the outside, but truth is. she's drugged up to the gills so hard it's a miracle she can even speak at times.
5:08
I think it's less that she wants obedience and more that she doesn't want the consequences of them dying while directly under her command because they refuse to follow orders meant to guarantee their survival. And didn't want the consequences of making another officer suffer because of their insubordinate behavior.
It was purely to avoid a hit to her reputation within the military. They were still under her command but because they were being punished for insubordination their sacrifice looks like an unavoidable tragedy.
@libertariandragon9142 I think it goes both ways, I agree completely if they arent obedient to her then it could come back to bite her in the ass lol
Those are two things that are not exclusive of each other. You're describing the reason for killing them and the method of killing them. Yes, she didn't want them dying directly under her command. But she still wanted them dead for reasons and ways that do not serve her at all. But people just worship her because she's contrary to Being X I suppose. 🤷🏾♂️
😅 8:22 she actually has average magic power. But the Being X Jewel gives her power if she uses it. It downside is it forces her to Praise God.
In the novel it also states it makes her high. I think that's were the crazy happy expression in combat come from.
8:00 small corrections: those shells actually came from a nearby artillery company out on training as well, which Tanya convinced of using her trainees as the training target.
Season two was announced long ago! Can’t wait!
Got the first season on DVD last year. So looking forward to season 2.
The WAY she prays before she can use her op powers from being x is fkn lit and POETIC.
Tanya was always a special case for me since she reminds me of one of my favorite characters Ciaphas Cain although she is may more unhinged.
Both just want to live a comfortable life in a f-ed up world and every time they think they can have some peace they get send into the next hellhole by their superiors, which they only survive through skill and and a huge portion of dumb luck.
A big difference is Tanya has no illusions about how smart she is compared to those around her, she knows shes the GOAT, where as Cain is incredibly competent but is seemingly weighed down by a massive case of impostor syndrome that cause him to dismiss and brush off every truly brave or heroic thing he's done as just a self serving act or a complete accident, When he is, even though he'd never accept it, a true hero of the Imperium by any reasonable measure.
@@johntowers1213 He took on World Eaters in melee on two seperate occasions and was able to stand his ground and even seemed to win until Jurgen could blast them with his trusty, rusty Melter.
@@unnamed1613 yeah, and hilariously he still considers himself a coward just out to save his own skin...
I think his issue is he's what you'd consider a sane man in a universe of psychopaths and nut jobs that would run across a battlefield to head butt a tank in the emperors name..
Amberley Vail has got his number though and see's him for what he actually is despite all his protestations..
She certainly has a... Unique personality, which always keeps you wondering what kinda nutty shid she's gonna pull next
Tanya is a pro. Not more, not less. She's by far my favorite. This anime is a cinema showcase.
Honestly the anime she insane but in the novel she someone I could respect. She logical and hardworking good at her job. But super strict and expect ppl to be good at her job to. Her one fear is incompetence superior. And she logical. If you are a talented and hard working she will do her best to acknowledge you. In one scene she tip the waiter so well after she got off the phone call they assume it was a good one. But she believe in rewarding good service. If your inept you are screw. The type of person I wouldn’t want to be against but honestly in a war someone who side I would want to be on. The anime she hella crazy though. But that mostly due to the magic orb. Her workaholic tendcy make her seem war crazy. Like she like I don’t want to be here. But I can’t show my superior that or else I could ruin my career. She want to show she take initiative.
Don't worry fellas, I can fix her.
UHMMMMMMM 🤨📸
@@daniaalkhan4702 sorry man but u can't she loco she messed up in the head👉😈👈 that her
@@RyHoppo 😶
i can make her worse
@saint_kami well, it was worth a try.
She is not crazy. She just follows the path that is more so so
I had a different take when watching the show. Tanya is only ever efferent never cruel or evil. She always stays on mission and never kills anyone throughout the show that she didn't have to and never goes out of her way to cause pain or suffering always ending things as quickly and effectively as possible. In training she had to make a huge demonstration to maintain discipline given her age and appearance and I doubt she was actually going to kill the guy just scare the shit out of him. During the first episode she was just getting a couple of hot heads who wouldn't follow orders out of her hair before they got her killed, and if they got blown up manning a pillbox instead of some one actually useful so much the better.
The city that was destroyed had some major context that was left out of the video. The Republic, one of the Empires enemies, fomented a rebellion in a logistically vital city and sent mages in to make sure the rebellion succeeded right as the Empire fully extended itself. If the Empire didn't take back the city almost immediately than they would have lost everything. In other words the Republic deliberately weaponized civilians and used them as human shields in an attempt to cripple Empire. The Empires response was to declare everyone in the city who refused to evacuate an enemy combatant and shell the shit out of them. Tanya and her unit were sent in to take out the Republic mages to prevent them from interfering with the shelling. None of this was Tanya's fault she just got stuck doing the dirty work after the Republic decided it was a good idea to weaponize a whole cities population. The only fault she had was seeing this kind of thing coming from her knowledge of history and proposing a possible countermeasure.
During the Battle of the Fjord where Tanya first took down Colonel Sioux Tanya was completely professional threw out the whole fight. She went in with her unit and took out the coastal guns fighting as little as possible as they did it so that they could complete there mission as fast and safely as possible. As soon as the job was done she immediately broke off combat and retreated with her men. At this point if Sioux was actually doing his job and thinking strait he should have ether rallied his men to try and fight off the invasion or retreated with them to fight another day. Instead he does the worst possible thing he could do at that moment out of a purely emotional outburst and charges at the retreating mages who have nothing to do with the battle going forward and gets himself killed (sorta) leaving his men without a commander in the middle of an Imperial invasion.
I would say that saying she avoids killing anyone she doesn't have to is not very accurate. Tanya is about efficiency, and if the most efficient way wracks up a bunch of corpses, that's what is going to happen. And sure, she'll likely justify it as a short, very brutal war is better than a much longer brutal war. Of course, it is tempered by her desire to live an easy life, as well as her desire for an ordered society where people follow the rules, so she's not going to go the evil route of blood crazed slaughter of innocents. But if a bunch of innocents are in the way of achieving the goal, and the rules say she can take them out, and that's the most effective way to accomplish the goal... you don't want to be one of those innocents, because she's going through to get to where she needs to be.
Case in point, the factory she blew up after the child-like voice bit. Those workers didn't need to die, but she deliberately misled them as to what was coming so that they would, to maximize the damage to the enemy and consequently shorten the war.
@@Axterix13 With the factory the voice she uses is her natural speaking voice, remember she's like 12 at the time. She normally deepens her voice to appear professional but because she was speaking in another language she couldn't do that. She tried to get her subordinates to do the announcement first.
0:17 "shes different because shes unhinged" you literally showed 2 mentally insane characters a couple seconds before, shadow and ainz, shadow is absolutely crazy/unhinged and ainz is just crazy
6:24 one guy did survive Tanya's nuke because he was closer to Tanya than he was to the explosion tough he did get the wind knocked out of him and his flight recorder was badly damaged and he probably got PTSD from the whole ordeal
9:22 in the manga Tanya was high off her ass on magic the entire time she was training the 203rd to the point where she didn't remember anything that happened which included what happened in the anime and making the trainees strip naked, tied them up in a barn and torture them for days all so they could in Visha's words "be more resistant to enemy interrogation"
AYO WTF 😭😭😭
@@RyHoppo yeah Tanya is not right in the head in more ways than one
@@Wildgamer2205 Blend the Navy SEALs. Tanya just took their training and quadrupled it from a single Hell Week to a Month of Armageddon.
@@SuperiorPosterior welp now I can't get the image of Tanya in full SEAL gear doing some black ops type shit out of my head thanks
I always read the high off her ass part may also be being X trying to cram faith into her. As she needs to pray to unlock her full power, the magic itself is likely going to be warping her thinking. iirc at some point she even ends up with a cross despite not remembering how and in the manga she is known to go to church a lot. Consciously to shit talk Being X but its hinted she is going when she is a bit out of it and just not remembering it.
For what it's worth, the shotgun thing is a nice detail. IRL the germans tried to get shotguns banned during ww1 because the caused "undue suffering on the battlefield" which is ironic because the germans were gassing soldiers and civilians. This s pre 40's that's why im saying germans and not nazis.
the other side similarly complained about German sawback bayonets while they were fine with flamethrowers 🙄
@@TrueFork welcome to war, where the enemy is always a scumbag who causes unnecessary suffering
Yup, and the french started with the gas
The british used american civilians as human shields for arms transports
But the germans get the blame
its funny to think that people would actually follow rules in wartimes.
@@oreoolafgaming3756 It's funny when people think there shouldn't be any rules in war.
You and Anime Detective are the only ones that do a proper, thorough, and real review of this anime. Thank you for the passion and effort put into this vid. Hope you get more subs soon!
The anime doesn't tell you this, but in the light novel we find out her "crazy" moments in battle is because she's using the magical equivalent of drugs to improve her reaction times and this has the side effect of causing euphoria. So she's not a battle junkie, she's just high as a kite during combat most of the time.
Sanest Isekai MC ever
Not to mention her seiyuu is so good at voicing crazy -but cute- characters. Y.Aoi is the GOAT! xD
the first 2 she sent wasn't because she just wants absolute obedience, Tanya always thinks about the Maximum Efficiency of her unit, their job was done, but those 2 wanted payback, if they got injured or killed it would be on her record plus they'll have to try a rescue mission further endangering them and losing efficiency. Hell, the way she got rid of them was even at max efficiency, she didn't need to do more but just wait for a bit.
She doesn't just want Absolute obedience, she also wants Maximum Efficiency.
6:24 🤓 this is actually not how nukes work, but it's emulating thermobaric explosives also known as vacuum bombs. The basic gist of a vacuum bomb is that it explodes twice. The first explosion disperses flamable aerosol in an area surrounding the point of impact and then the second explosion ignites it creating a giant fireball that burns all of the available oxygen in the dispersion radius of the aerosol. The resulting vacuum is very low pressure and gets rapidly filled with surrounding air creating a secondary implosion that can be powerful enough to level a building.
She was working at HR they even made her soft compared to irl ones
Tanya is an interesting character, on the surface (mainly in the anime) she comes off as a psychopath who relishes in the killing of her enemies but in the novels she comes off more as a stoic and calculating person who always thinks things through and never does anything without reason. Heck in the novels she is treated as some sort of force of nature who can make a big difference for any battlefield she and her troops happened to be in. Tanya may come off as a crazy little girl but the truth is she is someone who values hard work and proper work ethic over intrusive emotions.
For example that guy she nearly killed during training she didn't blow him through a wall because he was insulting her but rather she decided to HARSHLY punish him because he was being insubordinate and undermining her authority as his superior officer. In the anime she is shown being fairly emotional but in the novels she is consistently described as a doll, small, cute and seemingly emotionaless like a doll.
All I can say is Tanya's facial expression give me more joy than can be expressed.
I still love seeing Victoria just immediately going a for a shovel while everyone else is stunned without hesitation digging the hole
Insane? Naw, Tanya has severe PTSD, an extreme drug addiction as a way to deal with it, and yet is still an solidly professional soldier, a good commander, and is the dream officer for any military. Overall, the only isekai character that even comes close to being one of the most well written "strong" character other than Ainz.
Her character is all over the place. She's mainly portrayed as an uncaring sociopath but has scenes were she greatly cares about her subordinates. And then at the end of the first series she was emotionally distraught that her country wasted the opportunity to actually end the war.
Tbf, it's really hard to keep people interested in a true sociopath over an extended period.
Sociopaths can care about other people, but not as human beings - just as tools for their goals.
I think that last one is more about her understanding of which real world equivalent she's serving. If they didn't win at that point, she could reasonably predict what would come next
I liked the web novel and light novel a lot more.
My memory is a bit fuzzy but iirc Mary Sue is so OP in the original web novel that she could not be defeated by Tanya, it turns into a battle of attrition.
Tanya intentionally led Mary Sue through Mary's allie territories. and because Mary is so blinded by rage that she caused unfathomable collateral damage to her own side while fighting Tanya in a stalemate tug-of--war for 72 hours. This in turn made Mary's own allies hate her, and the family of those who died in the collateral also hate her.
In the end, the magic shield that protected Mary from all of Tanya's attacks, was useless when she was assaulted unexpectedly by her own allies during one night, Mary got killed by her own people. Mary Sue (Faith/Rage/Revenge) counters -> Tanya (Cold Logic), yet ironically Mary's allies (Fear/Hatred/Suspicion) ended-> Mary Sue (Faith/Rage/Revenge).
I remember reading the discussion of Mary's end somewhere ages ago. My memory may be inaccurate and unreliable now, so for those who actually remembers the content in the webnovel, correct me if I am wrong. Thank you!
Being X might be a God, but the story rather conclusively proves that it is unworthy of being worshipped. It's clearly just an overgrown toddler throwing a tantrum because one of its toys refuses to do what it wants.
Saw a video about Tanya the evil, had to watch. I LOVE THIS LITTLE MANIAC.
This character is basically Truck-kun in the form of a little girl.
You say sociopath... I say diffrently sane.
Tanya the saga of evil is still the best anime to capture my heart
5:15 On the battlefield, insubordination can get your fellow soldiers killed. Tanya was entirely correct to make these two someone else's problem.
Imagine Tanya and Noel Stollen meet
This is one of my favorites. The anime is great and the books are insanely good. I will say that the books give more backstory and details about why Tanya does things, no duh.
Don’t get me wrong, she’s still a bit looney, but her brutality and willingness to bend the rules is more than her being a “psychopath.” She’s trying to survive in a world that’s designed to punish her by a god who’s angry because Tanya refuses to believe in him.
Even tho this video gets some things wrong, It does shows that the series is a Banger. I wish you talked about the sound design of the anime because its really amazing.
And thank you for not calling her a Nazi. Because she may be a bit evil but she and her Empire really didn't do anything wrong.
I love it how every 6 months someone discovers this and makes a YT vid on it. Tanya is one of the best and most underrated animes because almost nobody is willing to bring it up in normal conversation.
Tanya hates disorder. Not obeying orders leads to chaos.
Tanya is a genius with malicious compliance. This why Tanya never breaks any rules or international laws. She learns all the laws, bylaws, and policies to take advantage of every opportunity.
The training part on the Novel and manga is even worse. She tortures them to practice them to not talk secret information.
6:34 Tanya was in Norden(Injured) --> Put in the tortu-... I mean as a Jewel tester. --> Transferred to the Rhein where she got the squad(Visha joins in) until frontline stabilised --> Uni arc and her own unit is formed.
Actually every time she prays the Jewl makes her more of a saint.
Mind corruption
I greatly enjoyed the warning she radio'd to the factory, and because she sounded like a little girl they laughed and IGNORED her. Then she SMASHED them...
When you read the manga and can actually read her thoughts😂😂😂😂. Shes just a mixture of unlucky and literally misunderstood by everyone......like not joking she does not want to be a warmonger
Almost like momonga from overlord
The biggest kicker about Tanya, is that she's so unhinged, she doesn't even goes into history! Those who know-know, but for the rest of the world, Tanya's shenanigans are so unhinged that people, simply, refuse to believe it and chalk it up to war time propaganda!
Bro! I don't know why this ani-manga is so underrated and unpopular bro 😭 its so good!
Eh, the ending bit is more accurate in that instead of relying upon faith and emotion like Mary (a biblical time, nice) Tanya uses logic & reason the most human of things to defeat an avatar of being X.
You let out, that she wrote the article about the loop hole to bombard a city herself.
Glad you're talking about this can't wait for season two
Yeah, this anime just went hard every episode. I loved seeing her little army of soldiers and how cold and ruthless like her they become.
one of the most underrated shows
The two times in the anime Tanya was wrong was when she kept a war trophy and not disobeying the order to stand down. Tanya is the only character that follows the rules of war and also not let her emotions dictate her actions.
4:17 … daily endurance test for explosions and falling from high up or frontlines evasion test dodging bullets and whatever the enemies throw at you… you pick
6:24 It’s actually called a fuel-air bomb, or a thermobaric munition. Perfect for clearing trenches.
Yeah that part where Mary is supposed to be 10x time stronger than Tanya is bullshit. It's at most 3 times. The only reason it looks like more is because Mary went full revenge beast mode. She didn't care if she ran out of mana in the process of nuking Tanya.
This is a criminally underrated anime. The source material is already great, but the adaptation is another lever.
8:20 well actually she coordinated a artillery company to start firing away and may or may not have mixed some real shells into the mix, therefore training the artillerymen and also training her soldiers at the same time.
imagine trying to fail a training by utilizing the USMC training module so you can be fired and be forced behind the line, only to spawn a battalion capable of spec ops and camp razing that majorly helped the empire advance their forces.
There is an international law related to war and civilians. If civilians do not take up arms against the enemy soldiers, by that international law they are offered a level of protection against the invading enemy soldiers (not something always supported by soldiers on the battlefield), but the moment civilians take up arms and actively resist in a combat level they are no longer under this level of protection and thus viewed as enemy combatants by the soldiers. What Tanya did and made her men did after the civilians began to retreat, can be viewed as a war crime, but there is a gray area as among those fleeing civilians includes those who took up arms against the soldiers, especially if they continue carrying weapons. So, a gray area.
This is also related to resistance fighters, these are civilians, but the moment a civilian takes up arms they become a combatant, and thus international law no longer applies to them and thus goes the shield of protection for those who actually follows those laws.
Also, in terms of Tanya's history and the design of the weaponry from what I am seeing. The Empire and its enemies begin with World War One, as can be seen by early Empire soldiers wearing those unique helmets and second as they move on it moves into World War Two in terms of the later style helmet and the tanks that the Empire uses. Many of those laws, that I spoke about War Crimes were established in world around the aftermath of World War One, and seeing how this world was continuing the war into the next one in war development it means that those laws are yet developed. But I can promise that in the aftermath of that war, that those laws would be established and anyone who survives performing such war crimes would be punished in a terms of getting justice and other times just sticking it into the side of their defeated enemy.
As a history nerd, I love the trench shotgun scene because that was an actual complaint from Germany during WWI. They ended up forfeiting the use of mustard gas in a treaty to prevent their enemies from using shotguns, because in the close quarters of trench warfare, it may have been a fair trade. I like to think that Tanya's indignation at the shotgun is because if he gets to use his war crime of a boom-stick, then she should be allowed to order a gas attack to liquefy the enemy from the inside out. Just the one, I mean it's only fair, right? C'mon!
@3:20 this is one of the few times where i wholeheartedly believe the english dub did it better than the sub. When the guy says "out of ammo" Tanya basically replies to him by jumping on his back and whispering in his ear "I don't need ammo." it just comes off so damn creepy its great
I swear Tanya embodies the saying "Its never a War Crime the first time"
Truly the greatest isekai to be made.
This is basically "What if Ciaphas Cain was an Anime Girl: The Series" and I love it.
Way better than those damned AI narrators. It's like listening to a catatonic speak. Subbed...
she is not insane, she is the most sane person in the whole story. she knows the most what she was supposed to do
Gertrude from I Hate Fairyland: finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary.
she got where she was because of her magical aptitute being high, and her strategic and tactical suggestions to the field marshalls.
I love Tanya. The covers to the manga are so good. I had one printed on a canvas and it hangs in my room. The one with her legs crossed sitting on a high backed chair. It so awesome
World building is awesome, Tanya makes me feel gross. I've seen this character a lot and wanted to know if I should get into this and now I know this ain't for me. Glad you guys like it though, it's pretty cool in other ways. Good video.