RM Italy KL203P No More Than 3 Watts Dead Key!!

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  • The KL 203 and 200 are a great little kicker.
    Anymore than 3 watts deadkey and you are getting close to saturation/over drive.
    I saw 65 watts RMS with 5 watts RMS total drive,not bad at all!!
    The KL200 Bipolar series is a much better choice,i saw close to 75 RMS same drive.
    577
    For radio work please contact me at paraglidermx0@gmail.com

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  • @577buttfan
    @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you guys need a new 577 built radio shoot me an email.
    paraglidermx0@gmail.com

    • @Joe_HamRadioGuy
      @Joe_HamRadioGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i know this is an older video, i just got one of these cheap from someone on fb market place, output is working fine but preamp is not working, cant seem to find a block diagram anyways most of the circuits i tested with the except of the transistors seem fine, i noticed when i turn on the preamp the preamp relay does not click till i key up then it clicks, its getting voltage but isnt the relay supposed to turn on when the preamp switch is turned on the click off when keyed? what could make the preamp not work?

    • @odoil071
      @odoil071 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoying The Sun 577-Jersey Customs hey man sent you an email

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@odoil071 Shoot me another one my server went down for a bit!!
      577

    • @thekingsilverado8419
      @thekingsilverado8419 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one of these 203P radios hooked up to my very faithful clear sounding Realistic 447 otherwise known as a uniden x477 radio. I can't get anything out of it the radio sounds the same as if it the amp were not even on. Also the spec on my 203 says it works from 28-29.7mhz... I mean WTF do I have here another one that only works on side band???? Also the position of the master off on switch confuses me unless the middle linear switch is in the preamp position it will not turn off unless that middle switch is back on preamp... What do I have going on here and don't tell me I don't know how to hook black and red wires to my battery. It turns on just no out put. I am running brand new 4ft twin truckers like I always have the radio works fine just not seem to be kicking the signal. I hooked my SWR & POWER meter to it and it's at 3.5 watt where I set the radio ... The 447 has a variable Rf adjustable SWRs and Mic gain all built into the reasons why when I see these radios up for sale used I buy em up... It works solid always has all these years I have. I hooked up an in box Cobra 29 classic to the amp same shit no kick???? What is going on???

  • @paulwright7551
    @paulwright7551 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video! Been an engineer at broadcast stations for years and you nailed it perfectly.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate the support brother!

  • @merlemusicinme3259
    @merlemusicinme3259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you im a little few years late but i learned something again thank you happy fourth of july week end 😉

  • @rfoster950
    @rfoster950 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i agree have several love them i have all models all the way uo klv1000p

  • @24nov67
    @24nov67 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    been running the older red version since 2007 and it's a great little amp that's worked like a dream so far.

    • @24nov67
      @24nov67 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      KL203 it says on the front

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its prob got the good bi polar tranny in it man.Good deal!@@24nov67

  • @Dan-sp3xw
    @Dan-sp3xw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good stuff 577 yeah I did learn something ...I have the 203 lol

  • @Jimmyboy1674
    @Jimmyboy1674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I spoke from Glasgow, Scotland to Texas, USA the other day with one of these! My finals are also upgraded and it swings to 250 on ssb putting 12w in! 052 Scotland waving a hand!👋

  • @billydarico6180
    @billydarico6180 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the quick reply I'm not a radio tech I'll have to find someone local to do it I live in CT so if I leave the radio the way it is it will toast the amp? I see your a Guitiarst cool I play Blues and Rock from the 70s on my strat and lespaul jam on Bro! Thanks for the info.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wont toast the amp instantly,but your audio will sound very crunchy and pinched off because the transistors in the amp will be running in saturation,plus it will get very hot..you can turn L-14 down CCW to achieve 2 watts but you will lose a ton of forward power without doing the TIP 120 variable swing mod,that mod allows you to turn your dead key down to nothing and still keep all your forward swing.
      I can do the mod for you if you want,just send me an email paraglidermx0@gmail.com and Ill give you my contact info.Right now Im busy with seasonal work so it would be a couple weeks before i could get the radio finished,Im usually in the CB shop from late fall till March.
      Thanks for stopping by.

  • @Cr8MyLuck
    @Cr8MyLuck 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What would be a good amp for the PA system on the CB? maybe that has a knob to control output??

  • @Mudsuitable
    @Mudsuitable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey , I'm in NY I just picked up a "new" Road King CB and I would like to get it peaked and tuned by you how can we make that happen?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shoot me an email brother!!
      paraglidermx0@gmail.com

  • @billydarico6180
    @billydarico6180 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video I just ordered the kl203 I've got a Cobra 29 lx can I turn down my RF gain to get 2 watts dead key or go in and turn down Vr 4 to lower modulation? I don't have a power meter can I go by my radios power meter instead? Thanks Billy.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi,no the RF gain is for receiver only,i modded the radio to have a variable power in that spot,i have a TIP high gain mod video you can check out how to do the mod,I would set vr4 to 100% modulation but you need a scope.
      Thanks for watching!!

  • @forrestdunnorm3012
    @forrestdunnorm3012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you run 2 of these thru a cobra 29 with a wilson 5000

  • @psguardian
    @psguardian 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you had any experience with the KL300? If not, would you?

  • @lets.walk.around.gothenburg
    @lets.walk.around.gothenburg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing.

  • @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4
    @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So yeah I have a cobra mini that’s for no way to tune the wattage from stock 4 watts could I run with a rm Italy

  • @alzeNL
    @alzeNL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you for the demo on the pre-amp. I've read so much that pre-amps aren't worth it, but you showed that it did increase the reception. Would be good to know more about that feature alone, but this video is great. Thank you !

    • @alzeNL
      @alzeNL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ordered one, hopefully on the way for the weekend ! I live in a 'valley' so am going to be interesting to see what difference the pre-amp and swapping between (now three) different antennas will make !

  • @jangles55
    @jangles55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 1.0 SWR on ch 1 and 40 with my president Maryland antenna however when I ran the amp it jumped up to 2.0 any suggestions for correcting this problem?
    Thanks

    • @mj2069
      @mj2069 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      they all do that jump up a little bit but don't worry about it

  • @randyschmidt19
    @randyschmidt19 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My question is if I upgraded the FETs to the FQP 13N10 FET what would be the best dead key? Im using a uniden 980 SSB

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would just set up the radio so you are seeing a dead key between 25-40 watts out of the amp on a dummy load with good meter,depends on how you want to sound,25 will have alot more audio than 40..also might want to get a small PC fan for the top of the amp.I run all my 200/203 amps at around 30.
      peace
      577

  • @808pathfinder
    @808pathfinder 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i got the 203p n runnin 2w swinging to 10w with no problems

  • @ronaldbrown9638
    @ronaldbrown9638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm looking to use one of these Italian 35 watt ebay apps with just a standard CB I need it for farm use . Any special precautions it's been years ago I use to play with these but little rusty. For only 60 $ are they worth it or do you recommend another amp ? I'm only needing 30-40 watts
    Thanks brother have a good one.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If I was you i would just go for the 200/203P amps,you will see over 100 watts for only a few more bucks and can be plugged into cig lighter...just make sure your radio and antenna are set up for driving the amp and you’ll be golden.

  • @forrestdunnorm3012
    @forrestdunnorm3012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    goodevening 577... BuckShot here. Well i found the battery cable loose after check DX600 won't power on. I'm thinking a serge fried the ground wire and blew the fuse to the - side. ? is what size fuses does the DX600 use, or should i send it to the shop for servicing?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always figure at least 25 amps per transistor if they are the big pills,smaller pills like 2290 and 455/454 figure 15 to 20..so for a 4 pill big pill amp I would use 100 amp..if you keep popping fused i would think the amp may have been reverse polarized and the pills could be gone..one way to know is to check the reverse polarity diode..you will be able to see if its cracked and burnt.

  • @HNXMedia
    @HNXMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solid video!

  • @georgedixiepeanut
    @georgedixiepeanut 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good evening I am trying to boost my modulation my galaxy 949 is not that hot will this increase my mod problem to get out further it is a new stock radio?? Looking for help?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure it would but a stock radio is very restricted especially the 949.
      I would have it professionally peaked and tuned by well known shop that wont clip limiters or charge you for any snake oil mods they didn’t do.
      Im in the shop late fall if you contact me i would love to get that radio talking and set up for the 200p.Until then just run it with RF power all the way down into the amp.1-2 watts is all you need.
      577 Tom

  • @ntsantucci
    @ntsantucci 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My apologies if this has been asked and answered, but would it be OK to use one of these 203Ps with very simple stock (perhaps handheld) radio, like a 38WXST, 75WXST, or CMX760? My understanding is that they tend to deadkey about 3.5 watts, which is, of course, .5 watts above your recommended limit of 3 watts. I think the carrier on these handheld-type radios cannot be adjusted, right? If it can't, how risky is sending the stock 3.5 watts through the 203P? Thanks for all the help!

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well if you don’t have a very accurate meter you can get an audio check from a friend,if the audio sounds crisp,open and clear you should be fine my friend..I never had a hand-held open before,you might want to look for a service manual on the radio for TX power alignments.
      Thanks for stopping by.

    • @ntsantucci
      @ntsantucci 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@577buttfan 73!

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can find a cheap Radio Shack meter online they are great for readingAVG/RMS.
      These are great i use them all the time on the road and if you see back swing on AVG/RMS your no good.
      www.ebay.com/itm/Radio-Shack-CB-and-High-Frequency-HAM-SWR-Power-Meter-21-534/183398938475?hash=item2ab36db76b:g:IwIAAOSw~91bgcwv

    • @ntsantucci
      @ntsantucci 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@577buttfan I've got an Astatic PDC1 for swr, supposedly reads power too. Back swing is literally when the meter needle no longer moves forward but swings back, right? I'm inclined to just hook up the 203p to my stock cmx760 and go with it. Stock radio should put out about 3.5 dk. This radio is pretty new and I can't find any guidance on opening it and adjusting the carrier.

  • @JoeR203
    @JoeR203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an old RCI Ranger RG-99. Using as a base with a Stryker A10 mag mount. (I live in a condo) What amp would you recommend? The radio is advertised as doing 10w on AM and 25w PEP. Should I even get an amp? Or just buy a Stryker 955 and have it converted? Not even sure why I'm even considering any of this anyway because CB is pretty dead in my area of CT.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You really cant beat these little KL series amps..you will be able to talk around the world on skip with the right conditions.
      You would need a 20 amp power supply too run both tho...they sell those 30 amp switchers on ebay for $25 that would do the trick!!

    • @JoeR203
      @JoeR203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@577buttfan Would the radio have to be powered down when running the amp? Kind of a novice here. Is RF gain different from power level of the radio? Thanks.

  • @freddytexidor1405
    @freddytexidor1405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    577, what could it be when the pre amp doesn't work right? seems like it turns down db instead of amplifying it?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a transistor in the circuit that switches the pre amp on and off that usually goes bad or the relay has issues.
      Bump bump!

  • @Flip2Flower1
    @Flip2Flower1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No wonder. I burned up a stinger board and I try to remove the transistors to test them and could not get them out. Silver soldet. I should have known

  • @gwheeler7105
    @gwheeler7105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cobra 25ltd classic variable dead key mod set to 3 watts on my bird and dead keys 30 watts with the amp 95 watts pep. Leaving it set there and it should be a clean reliable setup I'm hoping. Probably upgrade the power wires when I do my install in my work 🚗...

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome brother!!!

    • @gwheeler7105
      @gwheeler7105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@577buttfan Thanks, I lowered it down to 1.5 watts dead key and it's banging north of 150 watts PEP on my Bird 43 with a peak kit in the 5x switch with a 50 watt slug. Also, you can tell it by the sound of the supply that it is doing the dang thing lol. I looked at it on the scope and it seems to look good there too (not pinching off). Whats crazy is I hooked another radio (Uniden PC68LTX)up that's putting out just a touch over 3 watts deadkey stock and it still is hitting 150 Watt PEP and looks clean and mean on the scope.

  • @stephendearmond9233
    @stephendearmond9233 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What length jumper coax did you use?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got all 3 footers on my bench,whatever gives you a good tune efficiency..6 foot..9 foot ect...

  • @skidwarfarebo2171
    @skidwarfarebo2171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just got my kl203 in My 980ssb puts out a 3 watt deadkey and now with amp on I’m getting roughly a 90-100 watt average deadkey pretty impressed

  • @forrestdunnorm3012
    @forrestdunnorm3012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ok 577 i found some FQP 13 10's / SC 2879 would it be over driven?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im sorry I dont understand your question...you need at least 4x2sc2879s to run the italy amp into it safely.
      An fqp single final rig is a hot rig,that FET is badass!!

  • @Frdzed
    @Frdzed 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cobra 29lx , how to bring down the dead key watts? Im assuming from my research that these amps dont like 4W input.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could detune L14 but you will lose a slew of forward power,in order to keep your full peak forward power you have to do a swing mod,preferably the TIP variable mod...that way you can dial the drive in perfect every time.

  • @stevencarroll5644
    @stevencarroll5644 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just caught the vid.. running a uniden pro520xl and a k40 swr is great..looking at one of these, was just given a trc485 ssb.
    Any issues to be aware of ? Thanks !

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope.These are great throw away amp!!

    • @stevencarroll5644
      @stevencarroll5644 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@577buttfan you ship to Canada?

  • @robertsama2854
    @robertsama2854 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you work on radios? I'm on the Jersey Shore.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah ,hit me up paraglidermx0@gmail.com

  • @milesjbrown1215
    @milesjbrown1215 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been thinking about putting this in my f150 with my Galaxy dx959 what are your thoughts an would it draw to much from the alternator..

    • @milesjbrown1215
      @milesjbrown1215 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Enjoying The Sun 577-Jersey Customs ok thank you for letting me know I appreciate it one more question the Galaxy DX 959 has automatic SWR right now at Channel One 1.2 on channel 40 I'm at 1.4 do you know how much this will through my swr off. An I understand this helps with how far you can push out but does it help pull single in. An do you no how many watts the 959 is putting out from the box

    • @milesjbrown1215
      @milesjbrown1215 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Enjoying The Sun 577-Jersey Customs ok so I installed this amp an with just the raido I'm at 1.5 through 1 to 40 then when I switch the amp on it brings my swr to 1.1 for all channels

  • @dandewolf7250
    @dandewolf7250 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey I have a Pal Buddy Mobile . I have no clue how it works . On the the front it says low, med, high with another switch that says on- record off and on. The back says TX -125. TX -250 and TX -450. Watching you videos I figured I'd ask you about it . Would like to hook it up but, want to make sure how to use it and not smoke anything while doing it. Lol. Any information would be helpful. Thank you.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im not sure what devices that has in it,if you could take a few close up HD pics and send them to my email i could give you a better idea how to drive it.
      paraglidermx0@gmail.com

  • @forrestdunnorm3012
    @forrestdunnorm3012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will the KL 203P drive a Texas Star DX600 with know problem??? both stock...

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If that has the MRF 455's in it i would be super careful,but if you have the big pills(Toshiba 2879 your good to go as long as you have forward RMS or AVG power and good SWR).Just use a single final radio :)

  • @jackson4861
    @jackson4861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you recommend the correct length of coax between radio and amp ? I’m using Rg8x

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have had great results with 3 or 6ft.Id personoly use 6ft.Or just whatever it takes to go from point A to B as long as your antenna is in tune.

  • @kkanakis1957
    @kkanakis1957 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am using a Galaxy DX-959. I tune my RF power to just under 1 watt. I don't run any noise canceling or power mic but find that I have to reduce by at least half MIC Gain. Else reports are that while signal is great, my modulation is chopped or in distinguishable. What are your thoughts? Thanks for a interesting set of video...

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would check your modulation.
      Might find one or both of the main limiters clipped and possibly an r246/238 swing trash mod.Is the radio untouched?

    • @kkanakis1957
      @kkanakis1957 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoying The Sun 577-Jersey Customs , correct the radio is stock. Also-I don't run SSB (yet) as I am unsure of internal power adjustments that I should make to reduce power. (Unsure that front panel RF Power adjustment has any effect on ssb. Back to the initial clipped AM modulation, when I do reduce the MIC Gain to half or below, modulation is clear.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The RF power does control the SSB power as well.
      There is also a VR trimmer inside the radio that is in circuit with the ALC limiter transistor.

  • @forrestdunnorm3012
    @forrestdunnorm3012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    okay mighty fine bump it on you later you've been a great help thanks a lot.... BuckShot out.

  • @marascia40
    @marascia40 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very helpful

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man,really appreciate it!!

  • @rallypoint1
    @rallypoint1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome and informative vid!! I want to use the Kl203 on a Cobra 18wx St II. I understand these radios are underpowered . In your pro experience, would I have issues running the amp to the stock radio??

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well if your audio is open and not pinched off and you have forward RMS not PEP you should be ok,but keep a close eye on the amps temp,Id prefer running 2 watts.

  • @bassinbillRC5300
    @bassinbillRC5300 ปีที่แล้ว

    I repaired (replaced) a burnt out 100Ω 1/2 watt resister on this item. When I attach the 12 volt leads of the amp to a 12 volt trolling motor battery the leads on the battery posts get hot. Any idea why?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well if the battery is 12v and your not keying the amp there is a short somewhere.

  • @EdzashedFudwinkle
    @EdzashedFudwinkle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use a 3amp psu, only have 3.5w in my xenon, mine is the kl203 not the kl203p (p is with the ore amp)

  • @JohnnyRebKy
    @JohnnyRebKy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My galaxy 959 does 2 watt dead key with power turned all the way down. Peak power is 32w. Will this amp work ok? I just want a little extra juice in my pickup truck when I need it.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will be fine with this amp yup..just keep it at 2 watts! I have swung close to 50 pep into these all day long.

  • @truth4grace580
    @truth4grace580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got my kl203. Got a cobra 25 with a tram 3500 magnetic base antenna. Had dead key set at 2w. Hooked up, turned on, keyed Mike and cb started making a bunch of weird noises like reverse polarity or some kind of interference, needle was all over the place, turned amp off and back on and stopped. Keyed Mike again and it wigged out on me again. Any ideas what the problem is?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does it do any of the same symptoms with the amp out of line?Make sure your hooked up TX/RX correctly and make sure you have a good ground.Really good ground.Go straight to the battery with the amp and use 20a fuse.Get your SWR checked and set.If its an older radio the radio could be causing problems bad cap high ESR ect.

    • @truth4grace580
      @truth4grace580 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@577buttfan Sorry for late response. Thank you for the reply. I'm going to try that. What gauge wire should I use? Do you think a low pass filter would help? I know they sell them for these amps.

  • @joistein
    @joistein 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the KL-203 no name on it, is it the same as the RM KL 203?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Open it up,if it has 4x220 case transistors in it more than likely yes or a good clone.

  • @joseangelarroyolopez
    @joseangelarroyolopez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the amplifier 203P and use it with mc kenley president uses new and amplifier that gives surprise my recommendation is that if you have an antenna used to hold whatts since the first antenna I melted the plastic

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mobile or base..Id use a wilson 1000 for mobile and an Antron 99 for base.

  • @jgmopar
    @jgmopar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Kl203P seems happy with 1.5 to 2 watts in. It got warm once when I talked for 8 minutes on sideband. Allegedly. We only run 4 watts in my house.

  • @roaddog390
    @roaddog390 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your video I want to use this to drive a Texas Star 500 do you think it would be safe to do so

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes as long as you have forward RMS/Average on a meter and the audio sounds open and crisp.

    • @624radicalham
      @624radicalham 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoying The Sun 577-Jersey Customs How high a deadkey can you run a Texas 500 with? Thanks in advance brother

    • @adamroach5260
      @adamroach5260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on of it's the HD high drive or LD low drive amp

  • @snippits75
    @snippits75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video! Thinking about buying one of these amps for my pickup.

  • @cockneyb2k
    @cockneyb2k 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brought the 203p the other day.. not even rigd it up yet. Thanks great video.

  • @charlessalard4636
    @charlessalard4636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I have a galaxy 959.and a 200watt palomar elite. Show I only dead key watt and a half in to amp your saying???? Thanks.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Na,you can dead key higher as long as your forwrd AVG or RMS is moving forward.

  • @snippits75
    @snippits75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is dead key on ssb supposed to be 3 watts or below too?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not supposed to have any carrier on SSB,try turning down the mic gain all the way should have nothing if you have a carrier the carrier balance needs to be adjusted.

  • @marascia40
    @marascia40 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought a DX 959b Super tuned, Aligned, received enhanced and clarifier upgrades and I’m running the 203p with it. Can I still turn up the modulation to 100 percent? The tech told me I can run the amp as long as it can handle a 2 watt dead key. What do you think? I’m new to this.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah,you can run more than 100% mod into that amp no worries!!
      This amp can handle a 3 watt DK but I wouldn’t run any more than 35 PEP swing into it.When I say more than 100% I mean the NPC/RC mod where you can achieve 150% with negative peaks compressed below 100%.
      But with a stock radio i would not run more than 100% or you will get fuzzy:)

    • @marascia40
      @marascia40 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much would you charge to get the best performance out of my amp and cb?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im only in the shop from dec through march so where nearing the end of the season..if you hit me up next december I can do that for you.
      Just shoot me an email when ready and we can talk. paraglidermx)@gmail.com

    • @marascia40
      @marascia40 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok, sounds good.. thanks

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Typo in email.
      paraglidermx0@gmail.com

  • @MrRichard57000
    @MrRichard57000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey, my zetagi b501p is tipping back on am??what do i do wrong/?19rs041......

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lower the dead key from radio and see if you can find a spot it wont,if It still dips back with 1/2 watt then you may have a bad cap or transistors could be going leaky.

    • @MrRichard57000
      @MrRichard57000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks for the reply!i have a schematic from the linear and try too check it out....the zetagi has 2x mrf 422 in it running on 24 volts,pushing 160 watts on the meter and drawing 12,5 ampere max.....

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh ok,Im not familiar with that amp at all or the devices.
      I would check out the data sheet for the 422s also too see if you are within spec with everything.

  • @woodworm3615
    @woodworm3615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the KL 203 a good amp on a 4 watt McKinley. Should I up grade to the 203p?

    • @kenwood6573
      @kenwood6573 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The best for the Mc Kinley is the KL-200p

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  ปีที่แล้ว

      No more than 3 watts Bird DK.

  • @chefluigisuperstar3994
    @chefluigisuperstar3994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One in a bearcat 980 at 1 watt with 203 and bam no one can believe how aloud and tall it sounds .even in n.y. city area the big radios couldn't believe it.I followed your advice of 1 watt.and cleaner is meaner.running a 5ft Wilson silver load ( botch to tune) but the set-up is killing it.paid 45 for cb 35 to have it dropped to 1 watt 56 for rm kl203.no more connected for me.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice,stay tuned Ill have new 577 modded radios for sale this winter!

  • @jeffcarey3316
    @jeffcarey3316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi i would like to know if i can run this amp with a uniden 980 bearcat ssb unit i just ordered a kl-203 rm Italy. for occasional use and also can i use a 12 amp power supply for both runnig a base station I did see vides of people runnig this with my radio with no mods.If need be can i ship my radio to you thanks

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can but it will get way too hot..I would have the radio peaked and tuned and the carrier set to 2 watts man..If you want too send it shoot me an email.

  • @docrofo2573
    @docrofo2573 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is a good place to pick them up? I keep coming up with all of these places inUK and Italy

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      MAtt at radio garage has em sometimes.

  • @elliothuh669
    @elliothuh669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you say 3 watt dead key max. Do you mean with the AMP turned off or on standby mode. And just the radio input.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes correct 3 watts from the radio..tha amp should produce between 25-35 with 1-2 watts DK.
      As long as your RMS behind thre amp is swinging forward your good to go but you need a good RMS meter like a Bird not just a pep hobby meter.

  • @kodiakandgrizzlybears3787
    @kodiakandgrizzlybears3787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • @SolitaryBro
    @SolitaryBro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what is a "DEAD KEY"? Over here in the UK we use FM... Is the "DEAD KEY" just the wattage coming straight from the back of the radio? I'm thinking that FM might always be a "DEAD KEY" as modulation doesn't make any difference?
    Thank you...

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      unmodulated carrier

  • @peterpauldonoghue7024
    @peterpauldonoghue7024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video and nice Watt Meter ..
    Any Idea on how i might limit my 'ded key' output from my rig.
    My Radio's output is 4 watts AM and 12 watts SSB ?
    Can I put something in-line between the radio and the amp.?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depending on what radio you have a swing kit or variable power mod is the way too go.If you turn down the power inside the radio without adding a TIP 120 high gain swing mod you will loose forward power.
      Shoot me an email and i can take care of it for ya!!
      paraglidermx0@gmail.com

  • @wildmanturner
    @wildmanturner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know how much dead key power can be safely run into an old Palomar 225 black face

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as you RMS is swinging forward your good to go.
      Id try 2 watts and adjust from there.

  • @DominoStorm1
    @DominoStorm1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would this setup be good to install in a vehicle? In other words when is an amp too strong and at risk of blowing fuses in you’re car or worse yet too strong for the battery to handle?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This amp draws 7-10 amps depending on how you drive it,yes its fine in a car,a Texas Star DX 350 is about the limit I would put in a car without adding a battery and upgrading the alternator system.
      Just make sure you go straight to battery and use a 15a fuse :)

    • @DominoStorm1
      @DominoStorm1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Enjoying The Sun 577-Jersey Customs thank you for input. It’s what’s been holding me back from getting an amp. When I do get one it’ll be an amp similar to this one if not the same and I’ll play it safe and have a shop hardwire the entire set up. I still plug into the cigarette port and it’s been working so far just fine thus far.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah,you can plug these into a 10 amp cig port no problem..especially if your not using a real hot radio to drive.
      Your welcome and have a great Holiday!!

  • @269bountyhunter
    @269bountyhunter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much does the 200 run on price? I run Texas Star.

  • @timmylee1974
    @timmylee1974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was looking into this amp thanks for the info... btw do you do work on radios for people?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the winter i do a little bit,get in touch with me them bro.577 Tom

  • @Mr.QUDX-165-bw8tf
    @Mr.QUDX-165-bw8tf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What size coax do you run at the bench?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just a good RG8X brother with silver/teflon 259s.All 3 and 6ft.My SWR is 1.1 with 50 ohms and very minimal reactance.

    • @Mr.QUDX-165-bw8tf
      @Mr.QUDX-165-bw8tf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@577buttfan Thanks!

  • @davescbradiorepair8195
    @davescbradiorepair8195 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes i have changed a bunch of them over to the FQP13N10 and what a difference it makes.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the 2030 was my goto FET before the 13N10..I have had a couple of the 13N10 blow in radios so Im always looking for a better device.

  • @garymiddleton658
    @garymiddleton658 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If i got a high power radio like a general lee would it work

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes,as long as you have the DK set to 1-2 watts and your modulation in check meaning no clipped limiters.

  • @DevilDog68
    @DevilDog68 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Older video but good info. I just ordered a KL200-P 😆

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This video does well for some reason lol???

  • @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4
    @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just curious would a 30 amp power supply run a president Lincoln and a rm Italy kl203p amp pulls about 10 amps

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thats a strong radio depending on how its all set up it may draw more than 10 amps.Between the radio and amp you should be fine with 30.Just make sure its set up properly with correct carrier achieving forward RMS clean audio ect...I would also run a fan on the amp especially in SSB mode.If your worried you can put a cheap amp meter inline with the positive power buss.

    • @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4
      @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@577buttfan I’m thinking I should be good with 30 to got me a nice 30 amp power supply couldn’t do the 50 right now

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You should have some head room left with a 30 bro.

    • @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4
      @KE8ODY-WV-Ares-Ham-Dad-3O4 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@577buttfan I got a 45 lol

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Now you'll be able to run all the LED lights in your shack to lol :)

  • @jimgresham5529
    @jimgresham5529 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this amp. What does the third switch on right do ?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      SSB delay for side band radios with no carrier.

    • @jimgresham5529
      @jimgresham5529 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@577buttfan Thanks 😁

  • @josephriffle124
    @josephriffle124 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sure would like to see all that on the scope.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not the cleanest amp its a cheap CB amp..if you keep your AMC set to 100% mod it doesn’t look bad at all.
      But if you want that rip your face off AM trucker audio its going to look dirty no matter what :)

  • @eccarter
    @eccarter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 6 watt caring 20 watts is that safe to drive into my KL 203p

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have 6 watts dead key or 6 watts under no modulation,no its not safe at all.
      You want to see about 25-30 watt dead key out of amp and swing to 100-140 pep under audio.
      Thanks for stopping by :)

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I showed on video with 4 watts dead key thats like max for this amp,after that you are going to sound like crap..the 20 swing should be just fine,I drove hi output dual final exports into this amp before with no issues as long as your dead key set properly.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      no,your audio will sound all pinched off and the amp will get super hot and possibly blow a device or both.

  • @forrestdunnorm3012
    @forrestdunnorm3012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol...I'm sorry i meant the 13 10's are for the 203P and 2879's are for the DX600... i don't won't to overdrive the Texas Star.... with the 203P upgrade

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha,ok yeah,I see close to 200 peak out of the 203 after the FQP upgrade..great deal bro!!

  • @thomasglandon1759
    @thomasglandon1759 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    will it mess up the electronics in my truck

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You shouldn’t have any issues,just make sure your radio is tuned clean 100% modulation,use good RG8X coax and jumpers,get a decent antenna and tune it properly.

  • @EdzashedFudwinkle
    @EdzashedFudwinkle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the kl203 without the ore amp, going bigger but learned something from this 👍

  • @foxman362
    @foxman362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how tell your kl203p goes bad if doesn't does heat up i had retightening my sliver circle things the other day it bring back to life before it didn't heatup and swr wasn't working this thing does when heatup it would shut it itself off it came back on i don't know black things are bad also preamp didn't work when tight up silver circle things it bring back to life even preamp works now and swr is moving sometimes the makers factory forget retighten sliver circle things if preamp doesn't work or your amp doesn't heat up

    • @624radicalham
      @624radicalham 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      foxman362 What do you mean black things are bad? Is that like a subconscious racial thing bro?

    • @MET90LX
      @MET90LX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Radical AM I don’t think he meant it like that. Obviously his English isn’t the greatest

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha,you need to buy a cheap power meter and see if your putting out,if the amp still functions you should see some watts!!@@MET90LX

  • @wolfpackgaming5511
    @wolfpackgaming5511 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hay thanks for the info...have a question.. I have stock 980 barecat do I need to turn the power down on it to run 203p amplifier...any information will be helpful... thank's

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stock 980 runs about 4 watts so yes of coarse.

  • @santiago101100
    @santiago101100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whata a good price for a 200p?

  • @leaderspeakusa
    @leaderspeakusa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I purchased an RM KL-60 amplifier several months ago. The amp is rated at 60 watts and, without any tuning of my Uniden Bearcat SSB - consistently measure 45-50 watts. All reports say that my audio is crystal clear and can local 50-120 mile radius no problem. Will I upgrade? Nope. I talked all over the U.S., Canada, and the Carribean with this little amplifier. Driving it at 3 watts. Very happy.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice,yeah that radio is very weak in the TX dept,but It has great audioNo more than 3 watts,have fun bro!!!

    • @leaderspeakusa
      @leaderspeakusa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@577buttfan Am emailing you. I have a Uniden Washington with great audio but, on SSB, reports say its off-center. I got the radio from an estate sale.... never been used.

    • @dispatch464
      @dispatch464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Question? I have a uniden 980 SSB Hooked to KL203P. Getting a 2.5 dead carrier. But when I tun on the amp. It omits a chicken sound. Where am I going wrong.

  • @dieselkilgore
    @dieselkilgore 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll be running this amp with my factory Uniden 505. Stock DK is 2.5 watts with an 8w swing. Should I be ok?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as your not dipping back on RMS and your audio is clean and open you should be fine..

  • @HollywoodNNJ
    @HollywoodNNJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Vid thanks man when i run 4 watts with a 65 watt dead key out of the amp as shown here my amp doesnt get hot at all just warm.....but it back swings.... when its not back swinging turned down to 3 watts it only pushes about 12 watt dead key out of amp not much... but doesnt back swing.... is the lower heat/power due to running it at 12v instead of 13.8v? all watts measured in average

  • @chefluigisuperstar3994
    @chefluigisuperstar3994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks dropped 29 to 2 watts

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perfect drive for alot of amps :)

  • @vettonator
    @vettonator 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been eyeballing the KL-503HD, the HD is for high drive and the specs say it can take 35 watts in. Do you think it would do alright with a cobra 29 that dead keys 5 or 6 watts? Or would I be better off turning down the output on the '29 and getting the standard version of the KL-503?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have the radio peaked and tuned,should do fine with 5-6 in swinging 25 pep or so.

  • @YWHIC1
    @YWHIC1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any jumpers to move on this?

  • @Unknown-hu4gf
    @Unknown-hu4gf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many watt should you be putting into it on ssb?

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't put any more than 7 RMS 30 peak.

    • @Unknown-hu4gf
      @Unknown-hu4gf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@577buttfan Thank you.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Unknown-hu4gf No problem brother,Ive seen 35 pep no issues!! at that rate you should see well over 140 pep out the amp.

    • @Unknown-hu4gf
      @Unknown-hu4gf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@577buttfan Will I be OK with my stock Uniden Bearcat 980ssb driving this thing without having to have it de-tuned?

    • @Unknown-hu4gf
      @Unknown-hu4gf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@577buttfan I'm just 11yrs. old and trying to learn everything I can about cb's.

  • @chase196222
    @chase196222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does it need a in line fuss

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It has an internal fuse but I would use a 15 amp external also.

    • @chase196222
      @chase196222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@577buttfan got a 30 amp in line fuse for it

  • @foxman362
    @foxman362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if can do video kl203p that would cool learn fix your own i seen parts on ebay if can do it with battery solder iron.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The solder they used on them is so hard to melt I believe its silver solder so pretty much a throw away amp.

  • @nda7222
    @nda7222 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mmmm pucha que seria bueno que se pudiera traducir en algunas circuntancias.

  • @maninthevan53
    @maninthevan53 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder the drive on the SSB

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This amp will handle 25-30 PEP SSB drive no problem.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @2CabrasLocas
    @2CabrasLocas ปีที่แล้ว

    I've just purchase the same model amp and the manual states .5-10 watts input power.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Total input power.Anymore than 3 watts carrier or dead key and the amp swings back on RMS not good.
      Ive also put more than 10 RMS total swing into one and they hold up great!!Just make sure your carrier power is less than 3.

  • @noelmangion2157
    @noelmangion2157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the RM la 251 im not see 200wats, only 130 watts

  • @andrewdrake1211
    @andrewdrake1211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just learned something!! Thank you just picked up one for 50 bucks wasn't sure what switches did what !!

  • @johnkaveski7953
    @johnkaveski7953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you make it with a 29 ltd bro

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes,but the 29 has to be modified,send it on over and I can do that for ya.
      577

  • @ronedwards8239
    @ronedwards8239 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Mosfets used in that device are Not the same as the IRF520. The output will be about 1/3 less

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 13N10 will work jut fine in place of the originals.

  • @generaluser4145
    @generaluser4145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ohhhhhhhhhh yeaahhhhhh

  • @hitechrr
    @hitechrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you test a RM Italy KL 7505

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi,I would Rich but I dont have any here in the shop at this time.
      Thanks for stopping by brother!!

    • @hitechrr
      @hitechrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would be happy to lend you my amp. It is modded for 11 meter. I'm on Long island. I use it with a galaxy dx959.

    • @577buttfan
      @577buttfan  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you would like to send it in for some upgrades,cleaning and testing just shoot me an email and Ill send you my shop info.

    • @hitechrr
      @hitechrr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amp is less than a year old and works well