Modern Horizons 3 Set Review: Red | Magic: the Gathering

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  • @RowanNagy97
    @RowanNagy97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Red having so much cheap removal and powerful 1, 2, and 3 drops definetly makes it look like red-based aggro will be big in this set

  • @dyne313
    @dyne313 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I like how you put the devoid cards into their respective videos based on their color identity.
    Devoid may apply in game, but it doesn't apply to Nizzahons videos. (Also it just makes sense because you still need the colored mana to cast them).

    • @RowanNagy97
      @RowanNagy97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Devoid cards have always been placed with their color identities (Devoid doesnt change identity) for collector number and thus on databases like Gatherer or Scryfall; but a small, new change is that all cards are now placed by their identity as of I believe The Brother's War, not just Devoid (you might notice there are now sometimes colorless artifacts with colored abilities amongst the colors now, instead of down in the colorless on databases)

  • @michaelcollins4534
    @michaelcollins4534 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Finally the best color in magic

    • @sethzard
      @sethzard 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ?? Blue was yesterday morning

    • @sQuibleable
      @sQuibleable 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Goblins! Goblins! Goblins!

    • @dickhammerbush172
      @dickhammerbush172 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gotta get your hands on it first, gobhole

    • @michaelcollins4534
      @michaelcollins4534 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sethzard 😴

    • @Sm00thWizard
      @Sm00thWizard 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Playing with a grip of fire is just to good

  • @spark1128
    @spark1128 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    From just reading the cards in the set this feels like the best color to me, all of the energy uncommons seem insane in multiples

    • @RowanNagy97
      @RowanNagy97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A general rule of thumb is that the color wirh the best 1 drops or the best 1-3 mana removal is rhe best color and red in this set is the best for both of those

  • @giancarlodisalvo1784
    @giancarlodisalvo1784 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    C+ for the dragon is criminal

  • @lanychabot-laroche135
    @lanychabot-laroche135 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This color has more B than C cards. Looks by far the best color to draft.

  • @sgjuxta
    @sgjuxta 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I like Flare of Duplication a bit better than C+, at least in a predominantly red deck just for its mode of "sac the creature your opponent targeted with a removal spell to kill their best creature for free."

    • @RowanNagy97
      @RowanNagy97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's still just a very situtional removal spell, in which case, you'd rather be running any of the many cheap low-rarity removal spells in this set (including red's very efficient damage spells in this set)

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I would be less surprised to see the Flare be worse than a C+ than I would to see it be better than a C+.

  • @Shimatzu95
    @Shimatzu95 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The amouth of energy cards in this set gave me this thought.
    will we see an energy variation of phyrexian mana at some point? And if we do, how broken would it be as there would be a buildaround at least?

  • @joshhudson9839
    @joshhudson9839 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Red looks great just on paper. I think RG looks like the strongest archetype, its common and uncommon signposts blow all the other signposts at their respective rarities out of the water and it has a load of insane uncommon like spawn-gang commander, propagator drone, some colorless eldrazi and more.
    Seriously though titan's vanguard and writhing chrysalis are unbelievable for their respective rarities. Vanguard in particular looks better than potentially all of the rares and mythics.

  • @Amascut
    @Amascut 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really unsure on Ral and the Implicit Maze. Card just seems far too slow even in a limited environment. How often will a Spellgorger Weird matter on turn *7*?! I like the mini sweeper and the exile draw but none of these abilities justify the 5 mana cost to me. Maybe I need to play with it, but I’m struggling to understand.

  • @togglebott7748
    @togglebott7748 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This might be the best removal suit in ANY magic set jfc

  • @soggytoast111
    @soggytoast111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't really understand the rating on Ral - this seems like an F to me in limited. There is no way you are ever going to be able to cast enough spells to actually get this card to do something useful. I mean the "big payoff" for flipping him is to maybe ping a small creature. And then you are left with a useless +1 ability that you probably won't even have anything left to reduce, if it would even matter at all if you do.
    So you have like a 1/3 body that randomly does damage to yourself, and then if you are "lucky" you can trade the body to ping once... I don't get what the upside is supposed to be.

  • @andyspendlove1019
    @andyspendlove1019 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:40 just thinking about when SaffronOlive said on Twitter that this card should’ve cost 3 mana instead 😂

    • @RowanNagy97
      @RowanNagy97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For constructed play it would need to cost 3 yea; anything above 3 mana is unplayable for a low toughness sweeper because it can't get under aggro decks and this card is not good in constructed if that first ability isn't actually hosing aggro decks in time; it'd be ridiculous in limited at 3 though obviously

    • @Blackvolttage
      @Blackvolttage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think its good but that a- rating is crazy. I would never pick that over the eldrazi that give haste to stuff for example.
      I could see it being a a- if it actually costed 3 mana. For 5 and double pip im not eager to p1p1 this card for example. It will be the pick a lot of times but clearly not in the lower bomb range.

    • @RowanNagy97
      @RowanNagy97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Blackvolttage Yea A range cards are, by Nizzahon's own definition usually cards that: 1) You would always p1p1; and 2) ALWAYS add value in a non-situtional way that your opponent cant 1for1 trade their way out of. This card doesn't always do something impactful, can be 1for1 traded out of (in the sense that it doesn't leave behind anything if the sweeper wasnt useful and its removed after or even on your opponent's next turn); and Isn't an easy p1p1 a lot of the time with a situational use-case and a double pip

    • @andyspendlove1019
      @andyspendlove1019 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RowanNagy97 if it cost 3, we’d 100% have a new Fable of the Mirror Breaker on our hands. It’s incredibly comparable to that card

    • @RowanNagy97
      @RowanNagy97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@andyspendlove1019 That's the thing about some kinds of card effects - they're hard to balance. At 3 mana, it WOULD be a heavily played saga like Fable of the Mirror Breaker, probably even too good, because it'd be close to existing low-toughness sweepers used against aggro decks (with the notable downside of being 2 damage instead of the standard 3 damage sweeper for 3 mana which can matter a lot) + with a ton of later upside. At 4 mana, it would see no constructed play because needing 1 more mana and potentionally 1 more turn to sweep the board is all the difference in the world against an aggro deck so it wouldn't actually be able to replace that slot in decks no matter how much value the later turns are also providing. Just like Quick Study sees no constructed play but a 2-mana instant draw-two would be absurdly powerful; or Lightning Bolt vs. Lightning Strike (outside of Standard), and so forth.

  • @cax1175
    @cax1175 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope Nizzahon turns his opponents to dust with Eldrazi at once on stream.

  • @XiaosChannel
    @XiaosChannel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ral seems okay in late game since he can hit face and draw cards

  • @morbidpanda25
    @morbidpanda25 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The amount of genuinely scary non basic lands in this set makes me think, considering that the "unblockable" aspect of sundering eruption is playable enough anyway, that we mighrt end up valuing that land destruction more than normal. Three mana destroy a land with genuine upside, that's also an MDFC? I think that's an auto pick in most packs

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      There aren't that many genuinely scary nonbasics in this format, though. The MDFCs are good for reasons other than what they do as lands, the landscape cycle sacrifices to grab other lands. There's the rare cycle, and some of those are certainly good, but they aren't so plentiful to make land destruction significantly better.

    • @joshhudson9839
      @joshhudson9839 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sundering eruption probably gonna be a real feels bad card in this format. Getting lesser hazardous blast that you never cut and just having looming around is potentially pretty scary, I expect it to probably be better than hazardous blast was in ONE tbh and that card was a big part of the reason that format was so maligned.

    • @YourAdHere4
      @YourAdHere4 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshhudson9839tons of limited formats had cards like hazardous blast. Hazardous Blast was insanely good in ONE because it was so aggro, not the other way around

    • @joshhudson9839
      @joshhudson9839 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YourAdHere4 I think it's a bit silly to claim hazardous blast didn't make the format worse.

  • @johngleeman8347
    @johngleeman8347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The lizard wizard! :D

  • @dyne313
    @dyne313 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is Sarpadian Simulacrum the best Raging Goblin ever printed.
    The Power Creep is real.

    • @dyne313
      @dyne313 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Legion Loyalist might be better, giving your entire attacking team First Strike and Trample and unblockable by tokens is pretty good.

  • @n3croticism
    @n3croticism 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there any reason why the token created by Ral and the Implicit Maze has a mana cost? Tokens usually have no mana cost, unless they are a copy of something else.

    • @RasmusVJS
      @RasmusVJS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because "Spellgorger Weird" is a real card, of which the token is a copy.

    • @RowanNagy97
      @RowanNagy97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RasmusVJS The longer answer would be "because that is the new design philosphy about printing tokens of real cards as also seen on the new Tarmo tokens in the Graveyard Overdrive deck", the game has had made many real card tokens that use a real card's name and has never done this before. A lot of people are acting like this is obivous but its not, this IS new to THIS set.

  • @bezretmet
    @bezretmet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    eldrazi linebreaker can come down as early as turn 2 in modern. if you play a turn 1 it that heralds the end and turn 2 linebreaker thats 8 dmg on turn 2 with lethal on turn 3

    • @NizzahonMagic
      @NizzahonMagic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep!
      This video is about Limited though, so that's why I didn't discuss that.

    • @bezretmet
      @bezretmet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NizzahonMagic yeah sorry linebreaker and eldrazi are very high on my wishlist for modern so got excited but the combo IS technically possible in limited if you get lucky with the draft :p

  • @MrKHall2002
    @MrKHall2002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My inner Shivan Dragon wept

  • @Konarcoffee
    @Konarcoffee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amped Raptor is worded in such a way that the exiled card can be cast for energy at any point in the game right? Not just when it enters the battlefield?

    • @stricks8382
      @stricks8382 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Sadly it's missing the "as long as it remains in exile" clause. So you have to cast as you resolve the ability.

    • @Konarcoffee
      @Konarcoffee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stricks8382 Thank you, that's good to keep in mind

  • @dakotadoyle7573
    @dakotadoyle7573 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    players: so how many red burns spells will this add to modern?
    WotC: Yes

  • @rwed13
    @rwed13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    pinnacle monk is farting on the world

  • @jackiespaceman
    @jackiespaceman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this the first token with a mana value? That’s such a weird thing

    • @RasmusVJS
      @RasmusVJS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nope. Copies of cards have mana values, even though they are tokens.

    • @jackiespaceman
      @jackiespaceman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RasmusVJS no I mean the saga that says “create a 2R creature token”

    • @RasmusVJS
      @RasmusVJS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jackiespaceman And that token is a copy of the card "Spellgorger Weird".

    • @jackiespaceman
      @jackiespaceman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RasmusVJS right, but it’s not a copy of an existing card, which is why I was confused. It creates a token creature. That creature isn’t actually copying an existing creature.

    • @jackiespaceman
      @jackiespaceman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RasmusVJS “There are already a few cards that make a token that's named after and mostly identical to an actual card, but nonetheless has no mana cost. E.g.,
      • ⁠[[Ajani, Strength of the Pride]]
      • ⁠[[Roxanne, Starfall Savant]]
      • ⁠[[Rohgahh, Kher Keep Overlord]] & [[Rosnakht, Heir of Rohgahh]]
      So making a token of a real card isn't new. Giving it the original card's cost is new.”

  • @TheHive616
    @TheHive616 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's kinda strange that the Spellgorger Token has an implied Mana value... I wonder when that'll come into play

    • @parkerdubois5855
      @parkerdubois5855 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its just because spellgorger weird is an actual magic card, at least printed in that ravnica plainswalker set, not sure if it originated there, thats its casting cost.

    • @TheHive616
      @TheHive616 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@parkerdubois5855 i know, but the card that first printed "Llanowar Elves" as tokens didn't have the Mana value listed, this is the first time a token has had an implicit mana value. Just wondered why it would be necessary.

    • @TheHive616
      @TheHive616 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@parkerdubois5855 Llanowar Mentor... Makes Llanowar Elves as a token, does the exact same thing.
      I hope you see what I mean, maybe they wanted to do something in the future to allow Tokens of a certain kind to have an implicit mana value despite not being cast that way, I was only wondering if there might be a reason related to this current set.

    • @dustinlee9872
      @dustinlee9872 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Likely is related to emerge costs being reduced from the token.

    • @TheHive616
      @TheHive616 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dustinlee9872 awesome, that makes sense, cause emerge is part of limited again with this set... Thanks, that probably solved it

  • @richgunning8311
    @richgunning8311 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it me or does ghost fire slice give ghost of sparta vibes?!

  • @Nobody-xe9fc
    @Nobody-xe9fc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Laelia reprint! 😮

  • @JackOropeza
    @JackOropeza 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Set Preview

  • @ab-mc2nq
    @ab-mc2nq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:50 this card doesn't give you energy

  • @The29Dave
    @The29Dave 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Red getting the short end of the stick as usual