Stanford University CCARE w Thich Nhat Hanh and James Doty, MD
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Gregory Kennedy-Salemi & Stuart Jolley had the immense pleasure to accompany Thich Nhat Hanh and the Sangha at the GooglePlex and Stanford University, while on their USA Tour in 2013.
Stanford University´s Center for Compassion and Altruism Researach and Education (CCARE) hosted a discussion with Thich Nhat Hanh about his life experiences and the role compassion has played throughout them. ccare.stanford....
English Transcription by Terry Barber. Edited and Caption Creation by Peace Is The Way Films. Recorded by Stanford's Media Department. With thanks to Parallax Press and Plum Village.
Thích Nhất Hạnh is a Vietnamese Zen Buddhist monk, teacher, author, poet and peace activist. He lives in the Plum Village Monastery in the Dordogne region in the South of France, travelling internationally to give retreats and talks. He coined the term Engaged Buddhism in his book Vietnam: Lotus in a Sea of Fire. A long-term exile, he was given permission to make his first return trip to Vietnam in 2005. Thich Nhất Hạnh has published more than 100 books, including more than 40 in English. He is active in the peace movement, promoting nonviolent solutions to conflict and he is also refraining from animal product consumption as means of nonviolence towards non-human animals.
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I was in the hospital suffering with deppression when I picked up my 1st book by him ,that was 15 years ago and I can say I think THICH saved my life.
Which book if I may ask?
It's great you made it. A depression is a terrible burden. And a lonely fight. He helped you to find back your love for life, I guess and hope.
oh please fake story
why dont you pick up the Holy bible or holy Quran then!!???
Sadhu sadhu🙏🏻 sadhu🌷
He symbolises the highest order of human beings.🙏
TOTAL ADMIRATION FOR THIS MAN AND FOR HIS IDEAS!
I’m so grateful to know Thich Nhat Hanh pretty early in lifetime, it guides me to right paths that find peace, happiness and joy among all sufferings as part of everyday life. Thank you Thay for your wonderful and beautiful dedication to this life.
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I think Thich Naht Hahn is the wisest man, most enlightened man living today.
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How enlightened are you to varify? How many wise men do you know?
May Inner Peace Be With Us
Beings And Non-Beings From
Dusks To Dawns, In & Out😇
Ha! How would you know that? Why not you?
Me too.
Thank you for the beautiful practice 🌺
Now, I have been participating the memorial ceremonies for Thich Nhat Hanh in Plum Village and in Vietnam, Hue, due his passing 22nd January 2022. He is in his transition. I am sure it is pure joy and light for him. I have been looking at the photo of him as a young novice. What an exceptional and extraordinary life he made for himself! He was such a diligent student that he learnt throughout his life, walked his talk and transformed so many people´s lives with his example and his teaching. His example and his teachings aim was and is to make everybody to understand that they can do what he has done. My whole heart and every cell in my body is pure love towards him. What an exceptional young boy he was, what he made out of his experience as a human being. He transformed the whole world.
I'm grateful for people like him. They make this. World. Beautiful. And peaceful. Thank you, so very much.
@@maureenlewis4300 Thank you Maureen. You and I are thanking in gratitude that we have been able to learn from Thay´s example and /= teachings.
" Darling, I know you suffer, that is why I am here for you..."
" Darling, I suffer. I am trying my best to practice. Please, help me..."
" Darling, I KNOW YOU ARE THERE . I AM SO HAPPY BECAUSE YOU ARE TRULY THERE..."
Meditation by Thich
Julia K amazing
He passed away yesterday...Jan 22nd 2022.
He's left us to continue on with his journey on the "Old Path with White Cloud ".
His philosophy will go on...
Past in peace powerful teacher...I feel you my darling. ❤️
OMG! one of my favorites people. RIP 🙏
Really? Thank you for that. I was not aware that he has passed on. May he rest in peace.
This man Phap nhat Hanh is sweet talker, a writer but snake, a lier, a communist reigns working for politics under Viet Cong in Vietnam . He is always acting like a monk , but in vn many Vietnamese knew about him. The truth that he has a wife also a monk and 2 childrens living somewhere , he has been acting like this all his life, traveling around the world to hide his identity as a communist reign. Please just look at this stage as his people pretending to take advance of your love . This is a communist life . You will know more and more about this guy, what he has been hiding ? he is a fake monk and his poeple too.
Wonderful dharma talks
Enhancing translator sister is very good n skillful in strengthening language more comprehensible
If you want to know the kind of man that thay is, just look at his two disciples gently sitting behind him and the consistent portrayal of absolute love and peace on their faces and in their demeanor throughout this segment. That is the work of thay, that is the work of Buddha. There is no better high than realization.
there ar are no other people in the world like these!!
It's very touching to see the respect and love James Doty shows towards Thich Nhat Hanh. Beautiful. Thanks so much for sharing
The world needs this much. We are being taught that gaining a lot of money, getting sensual pleasures is happiness.
Thich Nhat Hanh was a Legend , his legacy will live forever...RIP
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The speaker James is very polite and articulate. And thank you so much for this whole video. I always learn a lot from master Thay. ☺️🙏
Thank you James as always you are great and you your approach and your Unbelivablibly energy's of sitting for hours in seeking the Truths so patiently .....
Well honestly I Didn't knew The Vietnam has such a Wise Monk ....who speaks Words of Wisdom and taught us brief an insight of the Great Holy Buddhas Teachings in it's simplest way.... Although Buddhism it's too deep esp for an non buddhist foolower ...the deeper it goes it gets always amazing and so Realistic ...
Namo Buddha 🙏🙏🙏
Luv and kindness ..Compassion for all beings ...
Thank you Teacher..🙏🙏🙏
Luv from Tibet
I have had the great joy of learning from Thay in person in Plum Village and Estes Park and Deer Park and Magnolia and Canada. He is the gentlest, kindest, most compassionate person I have ever known. I urge those who made mean-spirited comments below to listen again to this dharma talk with an open heart. In the meantime, I send compassion to them that the suffering they feel it necessary to spit out will ameliorate. Namaste.
His work at Plum Village was spiritually fulfilling and left an unforgettable reservoir of love.
I wish I could have had that good fortune you had!! Blessed is the person who even feels the real presence of Thay for a few minutes.
That is certainly an honor!
Agree, his voice alone resonates sweet, gentle compassion! 🙏👣💜🌍💜🐾🙏
His venerable spirit lives; my heart softens when I hear his voice & teachings ❤️🙏
Thank You Trang Doan!🌺♥️🌺
You’re Beautiful & Peaceful!🎗🎗
Wishing You A Wonderful Life!♥️
Daily Peace NASA, Australia 🇦🇺
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1:37:14 "In this very moment, many cells in my body are dying and I do not have time to organize their funerals"
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In paraphrasing the questions, nun/sister gave an extraordinary demonstration of compassionate listening.
Incredible memory and the voice of an angel
Rest in peace you beautiful soul. Thank you for all the love and kindness you shared with all.
“ Who burns with the bliss
And suffers the sorrow
of every creature in his own heart,
Making his own
Each bliss and each sorrow:
him I hold as the highest Yogi ". . .
- from the Bhagavad Gita
This men should to be nominated for Nobel a while ago.. He is really 21 century Jesus Christ.
He was nominated by MLK Jr in 1967
Julia K dont think he really cares about prizes. But for us normal folks, Nobel prizes became the epiphany of being man and one can always dispute the choices of Nobel prizes
Julia K you all so fkg airhead !!!
Hello Julia. May You check the caption of this video, please! I want translate it to vietnamese but I not hear well. ~.~ I'll very grateful if you agree. Thank you very much.
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I was trained to work with Dementia and Alzheimer's client as well as mostly geriatric. I found detachment (highest❤️duty) and mercy (highest❤️understanding). Daily yoga, meditation, devotion, practice to go deeper is require.
May help last questioner.
I do know about: your really corageous, protection yourself and be strong!
Con nhìn thấy sự hạnh phúc ở xung quanh mỗi khi lắng nghe lời giảng từ Thầy, con cảm ơn Thầy ! 🙏
🙏🙏🙏
i've never heard a more genuine human speak.
There's no birth and no death, but a cycle of life...
No coming and no going
no birth no death, its transforming in to a new form
You mean awareness.
everything transforming in to a new form, that's the truth. anything cannot stay in a internal form. beginning of a new form called birth & end of that form called a death. death of a form is a beginning of a new form.
You mean rebirth.
I'm deeply inspired by Thich Nhat Hanh such a lovely 'goodness' energy.. he was sent by Heaven! If any monastics are reading this please give him my love
Thank you once again thay for your constant reminders to remain mindful. I have been deserted as a victum of domestic violence an your practice helped keeping me sane without any help,
Thank you for sharing this with us, dear Sharon. We're happy to know that Thay has been supporting you 🙏.
A lotus for you,
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he remains me about Henry Thoreau.
He is very famous with “Civil disobedience “. He influenced Gandhi and Mark Luther king for civil rights movement in the world.
I’m Vietnamese, and I knew Thay! Everything Thay said, each part Thay said has touched my heart, Thay! I love you as I love Buddha! With me, you are my second Buddha, nothing can change it! Never change! Thank you for all, Thay!
I love thay too. Thank you!
Eternally grateful, literally felt heart open releasing pain from not knowing past "misunderstanding" of family & world suffering had even occured after many years of holding what my human thought she should be able to fix. God bless you Thich Nhat Hanh, God bless you CCARE! Life Changing Grace!
🙏👣❤🌍❤🐾🙏
Hi wew eyes free free free w
thank you for posting this. Very informative and helpful.
ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL THANK YOU TEACHER
The US election 2020 needs this wisdom shared by Thay
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Con không hề biết tiếng Anh nhưng con cũng thấy hạnh phúc khi nghe thầy nói
bạn thử bắt đầu học, từng chút từng chút, học tiếng anh bằng chánh niệm, 1 bạn sẽ thấy hạnh phúc hơn khi nghe những bài giảng của thầy!
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Thầy có viết sách bằng tiếng Việt.
💖deeply grateful dearly beloved Bodhisattva🙏🌈🌟🕉
I've been reading his books since 2 months ago and trust me it's helping a lot 🥺🥺
Dear Eduardo,
Thank you so much for sharing. We are very happy to hear the books are sustaining and supporting you.
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This lecture touched my heart. I could not stop my tears. 🙏🙏🙏
Wonderful dharma talks
Enhancing translator sister is very good n skillful in strengthening language more comprehensible
How many know Thich Nhat Han was a dear friend of Martin Luther King, Jr. He still is living.
He was finally allowed to return to VIETNAM after being banned as a WAR CRIMINAL for conducting PEACEFUL PROTESTS. He always is given flowers.
I was told to leave a school after 18 years of service for "shoving a student". I have never shoved anyone. This ignites creativity for a book on values and the truth. I decided to have compassion for a system that does not recognize or acknowledge the truth. I know abuse. And, I have experienced scapegoatism more than once; both as a child and as an adult. I choose to use my experience for something good. This world values need rescue.
The younger monk sitting between Professor Doty and Thich Nhat Hanh has the most beautiful expressions on his face. I wonder who he is.
The woman on the right looks like the girl with a pearl earring painting by Vermeer.
I wish US president were a buddhist.
+1910th Not this Buddhist
1910th - You mean Trump?? I hope not, it's a disgrace for buddhists
Our president would be well served to study the teachings of Thay.
I hope the US President has a good connection with Stanford University and was reported about this special event 🤓😂😍😊😇🥳
U cAn’t say that . Every religions are good
Christian is good religion 2 . You are discriminated to say that
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Mình nghe tiếng anh ko được tốt. Nên kính nhờ quý phật từ nào có thể dịch phụ đề vietsub cho bài trao đổi vấn đáp này thì tốt quá. cám ơn rất nhiều
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I remember when Tich Naht Han passed last year. It was on the front page of The Guardian while I could barely find it in American newspapers...How poignant is that?
Regardless, I believe it was in the same week that we remember Dr. Martin Luther King, who nominated his friend for the 1967 Nobel Peace Prize. Two of the Greats!
Thanks, Great master, Thich Nhat Hanh. Amituofo! #MasterChinKung2016
I can’t get enough of him
i wish Thay (Thich Nhat Hanh) can live forever....... Thanks so much
he can, also reborn...
Thay Thich Nhat Hanh just pass away today January 22/2022 in Vietnam in the Temple where he became a monk when he was 16 years old😩🙏🙏🙏
Wishing Thay in peace with his Father Buddha DUC PHAT THICH CA MAU NI
Thank you so much for posting this video
"I will continue to be...a flower or a leaf...+ send you a greeting. If you are aware, you will recognize me, and you will be smiling at me. +I will be very happy." OUR TEACHER TNH 🙏🏽 🙏🏽 🙏🏽❤️❤️❤️ 🙏🏽 🙏🏽🙏🏽 Namo AMITABHA 🙏🏽 🙏🏽🙏🏽 THẦY vẫn ở mãi trong LÒNG của CHÚNG CON❤️❤️❤️ Dear TEACHER, You will forever stay in our HEART and our MIND ❤️❤️❤️
Thầy đã giúp nhà câm quyền VN đã giếy biết bao nhiêu người dân vô tội tại Huế năm Mậu Thân 1968 và chính TNH đã đến Pháp và qua Mỹ và nhiều nơi tuyền truyền cho một chế độ vô thần và chính TNH đã đóng góp cho sự sụp đổ VNCH năm 75 và biến cố này giết chết bao người trong trại cải tạo trên kinh tế mới và hàng triệu người chết khi vượt biển vượt biên bị hải tặc sơn tặc. Tội lỗi này không làm cho tên Ma tăng này một chút động lòng ăn năn hối cải chứ đừng nói đên BI TRí Dũng trong nhà Phật. Hắn ta chẳng những không hối hận mà không dừng lại
mà năm 2014 vẫn về giải cứu cho VC bị cấm vận vì vi phạm tự do tôn giáo bằng cách đem hằng trăm tăng đoàn về VN kể cả tiền của để lập đàn tràng tụng kinh cầu hồn từ bắc Trung Nam. Và cuối cùng mang tiền bạc về mua đất lập tu viện Bát Nhã tại Bảo Lộc và rất nhiều tu sĩ nam nữ bị bắt bớ làm nhục tồi bại trong lúc tham thiền. Và qúi vị hãy bình tâm nghe đài TV trong nước tuyên bố Thích Nhất Hạnh là một thiền sư và cũng là một đảng viên. Tôi biết chắc 100% Thích Nhất Vẹm này chẳng phải là một thiền sư vì chẳng có chút gì suy nghĩ đừng nói đến trí huệ mà trước khi đó hoà thượng Thích Quảng Độ và Thích Không Tánh thuộc giáo hội Phật Giáo VN Thống Nhất đã gặp tên Ma tăng này và có khuyên không nên làm trò lập đàn tràng cầu hồn và nhất là thành lập tu viện ở VN ( Vì các ngài này có trí huệ nhìn trước được kết quả ) nhưng Danh Sư TNH không nghe nên năm 2014 khi Ma Tăng TNH về xin gặp thì Hoà Thượng Thích Quảng Độ không tiếp và kết quả thì VC cô lập đàn áp Thích Quảng Độ và đốt phá chùa chiền thuộc giáo hội giáo hội VN thống nhất.
Vì thế tôi cũng là một Phật Tử một cư sĩ tại gia cũng học thiền và trường chay hơ 30 năm nay tôi chịu trách nhiệm những gì tôi nỏ ra đây và tôi biết chắc Danh Sư ( háo danh, háo sắc này ( có vợ có con nha quí vị tìm hiểu đi) và trùm sư quốc doanh này hay sư hổ mang này sẽ bị đoạ Địa Ngục . Tôi đã biết Danh Sư này tại Mỹ và ở VN sau này.
I definitely learned a lot from him
I need to read Thich Nhat Hanh books
interesting connections .. I had Econ 101 at Dinkelspiel 1960 .. have followed TNH for at least 40 years ... I was trained as a VN linguist, served in Vietnam 1969. after which I became a Quaker pacifist good to know my alma mater has this peace program ... Chien tranh khong lanh manh cho tre con va lai sinh vien khach
cacciato69 The and r
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My great teacher!!!
Love and miss thay
Just see how Thay's description of the compassion of a mother creates a smile on the faces of those around (at minute 16) 🌷🌿
Loved the introduction to Venerable Thich Nhat Hanh.
Jason Gafar Hb
It's absolutely the truth what he says about true happiness. And our belief that money and fame gives you happiness causes craving to rise with suffering that we can avoid if we wake up. I try my best to help people around to be more happy and less worried. They stresss so much about the future, money and it steals the joy and happiness.
Thich Nhat Hanh is the spiritual teacher i follow. His way to explain things is simple yet shares lifechanging wisdom. His books are great and i highly recommend every book from him. It also supports Thich Nhat hanhs community that works to heal people and has desire to gain money beside for essentials
thank you for share. I had view this video several times :)
clip của thầy Nhất Hạnh rất đáng để học tập .Sẻ hay hơn nữa nếu có phiên dịch bên dưới để những người VN trong và ngoài nước mở mang kiến thức ,để TU HỌC
có nhiều clip thầy giảng bằng tiếng việt lắm anh. Anh tìm thử xem. Sách thầy xuất bản cũng nhiều nữa.
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Wow. So soothing!
Life goes with Death. You can learn to include Joy, Love and Happiness, to suffer less.
Thank you for sharing this video. I love to watch it and learn what he has done for for people.🙏
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Merci, Merci et Merci
thanks so much for posting this video.
Who’s the THay translator girl name?
wonderful wonderful!!
Thank u for this
I read
1)"The heart of Buddha Teaching",
2) The mindfulness,
3)Silence,
4)Breath you are Alive
but I most liked the book
5) OLD PATH AND WHITE CLOUD.
"Can you suggest me most powerful books like this one. "
By reading this book i feel The Buddha,it changed my perception to see life. I mostly try to observe my breath and try to follow walking meditation.It happened only because of venerable Thick nah hut.🙏
I discovered him in a pshych ward and my world changed forever ,finally things made sense
The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle
Reconciliation healing the inner child(Thich Nhat Hanh)
Path to realize nature of human being
Amazing!
Anyone happen to know the gentleman's name behind him ?
Constantly chant : Namo Amitabha, Repentance and Dedication of Merit.
南無阿彌陀佛🙏🙏🙏
Repentance
All the unwholesome karma created by me,
Arising from beginningless greed, hatred and delusion;
Expressed through greed, hatred and delusion;
I hereby regret and repent them all.
Dedication of Merit
May the merit and virtue accrued from this work adorn Amitabha Buddha 's Pure Land,
repay the four great kindnesses above, and relieve the suffering of those on the three paths below.
May those who see or hear of these efforts generate Bodhi-mind,
spend their lives devoted to the Buddha Dharma ,
and finally be reborn together in the Land of Ultimate Bliss.
Just wondering 💯❤️🔥🙏
If there is no forms, then there is a transformation. But if a form is present, then there is no transform.
Pienso q si estás en un monasterio .No es lo mismo si estás afuera en la vida con poco trabajo ,niños Ho situaciones Ho circunstancias difíciles .Es diferente .De lo que hablan .Cuál sería la solución como manejar
It would be so hard to understand what Thay said. But if you can understand that you can have a good spirit
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Very educative. I do research on how Buddhism disappeared in Bihar. I realized it never disappeared from Bihar. Buddhists simply failed to research Indian Buddhism. They looked at Buddhism through the sphere of their own cultures searching for only the Buddha. Buddha had a myriad of names in different villages according to his teachings there. Example. His favorite teaching was 'Lust and desire causes pain. Remove lust and desire, and pain is removed'. Translated into Bihari (where the Buddha story took place) it is DHUKH HARAN meaning to remove dukha. Three dozen villages pray to DUKH HARAN Baba. Its clear that DUKH HARAN Baba is none other than the Buddha. Problem is Buddhists are searching only for the Buddha. In the real Vaishali the Buddha begged for alms. The locals there pray to 'BHIKHAINI' Baba (Beggar Baba). Bhikhaini was mispronounced by Buddhists as Bhikshu. Who is BHIKHAINI Baba. The Buddha no doubt. But people are searching for a man called Buddha. In the real Vaishali, in Beluha the Buddha suffered a sickness and felt he had grown old. The locals pray to 'BURHA' Baba (Old Baba). Who is BURHA Baba. The Buddha no doubt. In the real Vaishali the Lichavies pressurized Buddha not to die. They trailed him to Bandagawan pressurizing him not to die. To put pressure in Hindi is DABESHWAR. Three dozen villages around the stupa where Buddha gave the Lichavies his patra, the villagers pray to Baba 'DABESHWAR NATH' meaning the man who won the pressurizing game. It was the the Buddha no doubt as he gave the Lichavies his patra and succeded in sending them back. But Buddhists are searching for the Buddha. Forgive me for commenting out of the topic. I just wanted to impart this information to you.
Thank you 🌹🙏
Cómo estar con la mente en control en la vida diaria.
How can I work with him?!
Engsub so alright?? If it right i will vietsub for everyone. I am not sure it right or false.
Está a otro nivel, punto.
pudieran traducirlo al español por favor
.gracias
Gotta get him on JRE
Pull that up Jamie
Most and many spiritual leaders and guru lost their life, died prematurely unwanted death because they had never entirely broken through what they claimed or fancified in their talks.
#happiness #Longevity #immortality #Enlightenment
Paideia Society
I would refrain from describing music as a consumable, which he does in minute 27. Of course it depends a lot. But as a generalization i think it is not quite appropriate.
Norman Reppingen yyt
wonderful
Everything in duality ..
Is he Vietnamese ?
Tlvn Le Yes
Yes. He is
Yes
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Great speech.
"Oh how short.. my unfinished mind can be."
"Arrogance serves no one. Humility serves all."
"To walk into my own rocky shoals, is to trace, and unlace, the soles of another."
"Cry not, woe is me. Ask, why is he? Why is she? Pain, collectively, is a cry for understanding, towards healing."
"For those who (seemingly) harm me, I assuage my judgement. For I too have harmed myself, unintentionally, and intentionally. Search your sufferings, and find liberation."
"Within yourself, leave no stone unturned. Having done so, you will not stone another."
"As within, so without: self-care = other-care; self-understanding = other-understandng; self-growth = outer-growth; self-harmony = outer-harmony. Divine & boundless is the journey of the self. In deed, and indeed, self-care is a gift, unwrapped & boundless."
"Our planet, our society, does not need more takers. We desperately need more caretakers. Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are the caretakers for they will create heaven on earth."
"Oh how breathtaking.. our unfinished journey... can be."
~ Paul Jung
I know this is off on a tangent but the girl on the right resembles Vermeer’s painting”the Girl With the Pearl Earring”. I hope this statement isn’t inappropriate. I love Thich Nhat Hanh and his teachings
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Good God, Dr Doty looks like he came straight from emergency surgery! You'd think he might get a haircut and fix the buttons on his shirt before such a large public speaking! Just my observation.
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genial man!
Thanks, Thay!
Thays talks are timeless. Passion fir compassion and peace.
Bản dịch Tiếng Việt của buổi nói chuyện này: th-cam.com/video/dxhvWjzl2fQ/w-d-xo.html
Read Tolhart's book, didn't like it. Couldn't even finish one of TNH's [clever abbreviation] books, boring. i catch both of these guys on TH-cam, and am instantly transformed . I'm making some kind of comment on media relevancy in these modern times. In the past books had this dramatic quality. I am only 2 months old on TH-cam, and am enthralled at it's rapid effectiveness. There are a few missing dots to connect before having a clue what these guys are talking about, and frankly find their method of communication needs help from us lower echelons.
I am attempting to construct [ for myself] some of these dots. Greg Osborn www.jumptime.gallery
You’re entitled to your opinion!;