This is great advice....if you live in your moms basement for free. The simple truth is that many entrepreneurs do not have the ability to spend 6 months learning to code with no income coming in (and as a coder with 20+ years experience i can tell you that after 6 months you don't have the skill set to create much of value) if you can build something and have PAYING customers using your MVP then finding money to upscale will be way easier than learning to code is when you just have an idea that you do not even know is viable. I do agree that knowing how to code is helpful but to say you shouldn't feel bubble is a viable starting path is ridiculous and clearly shows your inexperience in real life business. Coders are employees, and with AI they are becoming increasingly low paid and low valued employees. Have an idea? Make it, any way you can.
my son tells me to just learn to code because you can truly fine tune your ideas and services vs limitation based on presets and templates that paas, saas and iaas offer. You cover a lot of ethical logistical facts, thanks for this content.
Even though you may get less money opportunity from this, our trust towards you definitely increased. Appreciate it Corbin 🙏🙏 (I am a junior software engineer)
I like this video. This guy is telling us the truth. He could've said like "you can build SW platform with no-code tools and buy my online course." But that's not true. Building SW startup is not that simple. I really appreciate this video.
Hey Corbin, I need a developer for certain parts of the ai solutions im building, how would you recommend to find a good one? Do you know any good developers you’d recommend? I try to stay away from upwork and other freelance sites.
Can recommend a friend of mine. He's very skilled, teaching AI at the University of St. Pölten and wants to start his own business, so looking for projects (starting at low prices). I'm not benefitting from this, just trying to create a win win situation. If you're interested in his contact, just drop me a message.
I think there is a middle ground here when using an ipaas platform for backend integrations. But I do agree low code no code platforms should not replace developing software, especially when there are so many resources out there.
This is very true. They are nice to play with ideas from people who don't know how to code and have had ideas for years. But there is no point after seeing that maybe you have something, and design MVP, then get out and learn your coding bc you already received proof.
it depends on what you want to build. I know people who built multimillionaire Saas using only bubble, so it depends. At the end most developers will be against no-code tools cause now the industry is at everyone's level, the barrier to entry is equal for eveyone
Bravo on this; I myself am at juncture where my MVP was created using Bubble, and I've been questioning the next step, whether to continue on this path to no return with Bubble, or to switch to coding early on to prevent potential scalability issues. The timing of this video could not have been any better! For someone who may not have the time to dig into the trenches for 6 months learning how to code, would you recommend hiring engineers (whether contractual or full time) for this purpose?
If you choose to go the hiring route, here is what I suggest: Create strong legal contracts that are very transparent about timelines, proprietary information, costs, etc. The last thing you want is for a timeline to be moved for any reason; you should have safeguards in place. So, if the dev team says they will complete it in 6 months, they should complete it in 6 months, and if they don't, you get a full refund or XYZ happens every month they are late. Be strict; this is your money, so spend it wisely.
I would suggest building out an easy application with the backend of Firebase and the frontend of React. This will be a combination of languages, but it's best to see how they all interact with each other.
@@Corbin_Brown Ok thanks for reply. I was planning to learn three languages i.e. python, javascript and SQL. Because I heard that these three or combo of these three are demanding in the current world. But I will start with what you have suggested now. Thanks😊
6 months vs 3 weeks for an MVP. If successful, you'll have to hire devs either way. Also, this truly depends on the complexity of what it is you're making. Good food for thought either way, but the argument leads more towards the advantage of no-code solutions to me.
The point is Bubble was not build for web developers, their primary niche is the entrepreneur who is in the necessity of launch as soon as posible the mvp with not any knowledge of code and don't have enough time to make because their competitors are strong. They need to move forward quickly. If some people are real developers and know about how to code, good for them, go ahead. But Bubble is not really for developers which some kind of scalability programmed. When Bubble was developed this people was not in their minds.
To what extent is it still a good idea to learn to code from scratch now in light of the upcoming AI advantages. Advantages that may make AIs and copilots (upgraded github copilots) that basically take over the coding part, where you just instruct them with natural language instead of coding language. I know this is still sometime off but is it still worth getting into coding now? Thanks
If we can get to the point where AI can code reliably with natural language, it is still a very distinct advantage if you learn how to code. As you won't be able to tell if the code it output is the most effective way to approach the logic you are trying to achieve. In addition, software encompasses a lot of moving pieces; one must have a foundational understanding so you can still use AI to code but know how to connect it all.
@@Corbin_Brown Thanks thats very helpful. With all the AI teaching and tutoring skills available incl. gpt-4 and copilot it probably still takes a minimum of 6 months to really be able to start building useful software in the space, correct?
Ok, so where is the happy medium? It appears that your issue is totally based on scaling, valid, ok.. But how are you to know your platform is going to be successful? Most start-ups are bootstrapped and don't have capital behind their ideas, so again where is the happy medium.. Your whole position is based on if the application is successful but how do you know? Lastly, it sounds like we going to build the next twitter, facebook or instagram.. I don't think that is the case, and there is a completely untapped market your not realizing..
I can feel "AI art is bad becouse you wont know how to create art by yourself" in this video. Okay man I just want to make money on simple ideas that can be created without years of learning shit xd
Your right you got to know what your doing under the surface to freelance, but when you know what you are doing I think no code type of software can be useful for doing small-scale projects maybe a login page. The goal is to save time while programming.
anyways, soon AI will build whole apps for us, the way things are going, it will be better to learn correct prompting to express our ideas on what we want to be built for us.
I love your vids but I disagree (depending who's watching your video). What about a scenario where you want to quickly test the market with an idea and you don't want to sink alot of money into an idea you "think" will work? How about use Bubble to build MVP to prove its viable to the market in a short timeline. If it is NOT a market fit, you'll know very soon and you dodge a bullet. If it is a good fit because the market as responded positively, then you know its a worthwhile investment of time in resources to build it "right." At that point, YES, you should learn to code because theres motivation. Assuming someone will "just" learn to code and build a website is a huge, assumption in my opinion.
That’s what I appreciate about you. You are honest and that’s rare It makes sense what you say. I have thought same thing re when it’s time to scale after building on Nocode platform , then what? It defo has its use cases ie internal CRM’s etc I am still a huge fan Always will be
This is great advice....if you live in your moms basement for free. The simple truth is that many entrepreneurs do not have the ability to spend 6 months learning to code with no income coming in (and as a coder with 20+ years experience i can tell you that after 6 months you don't have the skill set to create much of value) if you can build something and have PAYING customers using your MVP then finding money to upscale will be way easier than learning to code is when you just have an idea that you do not even know is viable. I do agree that knowing how to code is helpful but to say you shouldn't feel bubble is a viable starting path is ridiculous and clearly shows your inexperience in real life business. Coders are employees, and with AI they are becoming increasingly low paid and low valued employees. Have an idea? Make it, any way you can.
Agreed
100% agreed
I mean you’re not likely to succeed without skill in your field. Regardless we all start from zero, you don’t just shit a mega company.
my son tells me to just learn to code because you can truly fine tune your ideas and services vs limitation based on presets and templates that paas, saas and iaas offer. You cover a lot of ethical logistical facts, thanks for this content.
Even though you may get less money opportunity from this, our trust towards you definitely increased. Appreciate it Corbin 🙏🙏 (I am a junior software engineer)
This is why I'm subscribed to you! Thanks Corbin
I like this video. This guy is telling us the truth. He could've said like "you can build SW platform with no-code tools and buy my online course." But that's not true. Building SW startup is not that simple. I really appreciate this video.
Who said building sw startup with nocode is simple..?
Hey Corbin, I need a developer for certain parts of the ai solutions im building, how would you recommend to find a good one? Do you know any good developers you’d recommend? I try to stay away from upwork and other freelance sites.
I am going to make a video on this topic tomorrow, as I have seen similar comments elsewhere, so I will help clear the air and give the best strategy!
Can recommend a friend of mine. He's very skilled, teaching AI at the University of St. Pölten and wants to start his own business, so looking for projects (starting at low prices). I'm not benefitting from this, just trying to create a win win situation. If you're interested in his contact, just drop me a message.
I think there is a middle ground here when using an ipaas platform for backend integrations. But I do agree low code no code platforms should not replace developing software, especially when there are so many resources out there.
I seen a few of these "but someone made something that worked" , 90% of had to hire developers to jerry rig stuff into bubble with javascript
This is very true. They are nice to play with ideas from people who don't know how to code and have had ideas for years. But there is no point after seeing that maybe you have something, and design MVP, then get out and learn your coding bc you already received proof.
it depends on what you want to build. I know people who built multimillionaire Saas using only bubble, so it depends. At the end most developers will be against no-code tools cause now the industry is at everyone's level, the barrier to entry is equal for eveyone
Bravo on this; I myself am at juncture where my MVP was created using Bubble, and I've been questioning the next step, whether to continue on this path to no return with Bubble, or to switch to coding early on to prevent potential scalability issues. The timing of this video could not have been any better! For someone who may not have the time to dig into the trenches for 6 months learning how to code, would you recommend hiring engineers (whether contractual or full time) for this purpose?
If you choose to go the hiring route, here is what I suggest: Create strong legal contracts that are very transparent about timelines, proprietary information, costs, etc.
The last thing you want is for a timeline to be moved for any reason; you should have safeguards in place.
So, if the dev team says they will complete it in 6 months, they should complete it in 6 months, and if they don't, you get a full refund or XYZ happens every month they are late.
Be strict; this is your money, so spend it wisely.
Hi I want to know if i don't know any programming language so which language I should start learning first?
I would suggest building out an easy application with the backend of Firebase and the frontend of React. This will be a combination of languages, but it's best to see how they all interact with each other.
@@Corbin_Brown Ok thanks for reply. I was planning to learn three languages i.e. python, javascript and SQL. Because I heard that these three or combo of these three are demanding in the current world. But I will start with what you have suggested now. Thanks😊
What about tools like webflow , wized and xano as a combo wont those allow you to scale
Each has its own drawbacks, but scaling with no-code tools leads to costs that are extremely more expensive than if you were to have it coded.
6 months vs 3 weeks for an MVP. If successful, you'll have to hire devs either way. Also, this truly depends on the complexity of what it is you're making. Good food for thought either way, but the argument leads more towards the advantage of no-code solutions to me.
Great video Corbin!
What's your thoughts on power platform?
Would you consider all of no code platforms like voiceflow or other no code platforms?
Thank you for mentioning the contracts and jurisdiction issues. Often forgotten!
Great video.
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Fantastic video!
Great video! Thank you for this, much needed. Where do you suggest I start with my goal being to learn how to build an HTML form widget?
Here's a great tutorial to help you do something like that: th-cam.com/video/v39bF40VIaA/w-d-xo.html
Thanks
Thanks for the video I’ve now give up to the app idea I had 😅
The point is Bubble was not build for web developers, their primary niche is the entrepreneur who is in the necessity of launch as soon as posible the mvp with not any knowledge of code and don't have enough time to make because their competitors are strong. They need to move forward quickly. If some people are real developers and know about how to code, good for them, go ahead. But Bubble is not really for developers which some kind of scalability programmed. When Bubble was developed this people was not in their minds.
To what extent is it still a good idea to learn to code from scratch now in light of the upcoming AI advantages.
Advantages that may make AIs and copilots (upgraded github copilots) that basically take over the coding part, where you just instruct them with natural language instead of coding language. I know this is still sometime off but is it still worth getting into coding now? Thanks
If we can get to the point where AI can code reliably with natural language, it is still a very distinct advantage if you learn how to code. As you won't be able to tell if the code it output is the most effective way to approach the logic you are trying to achieve. In addition, software encompasses a lot of moving pieces; one must have a foundational understanding so you can still use AI to code but know how to connect it all.
@@Corbin_Brown Thanks thats very helpful. With all the AI teaching and tutoring skills available incl. gpt-4 and copilot it probably still takes a minimum of 6 months to really be able to start building useful software in the space, correct?
Ok, so where is the happy medium? It appears that your issue is totally based on scaling, valid, ok.. But how are you to know your platform is going to be successful? Most start-ups are bootstrapped and don't have capital behind their ideas, so again where is the happy medium.. Your whole position is based on if the application is successful but how do you know?
Lastly, it sounds like we going to build the next twitter, facebook or instagram.. I don't think that is the case, and there is a completely untapped market your not realizing..
The AI SAAS market will be oversaturated by the time I learn how to code corbin lol
Good video, but it took you so long to start telling me your reasons. Fast forward to 2 mins if you wanna actually get to the point!
no code tools are nothing new, Sales people are trying to sale this idea for the las 30 years
#million dollars worth of game
I can feel "AI art is bad becouse you wont know how to create art by yourself" in this video. Okay man I just want to make money on simple ideas that can be created without years of learning shit xd
Your right you got to know what your doing under the surface to freelance, but when you know what you are doing I think no code type of software can be useful for doing small-scale projects maybe a login page. The goal is to save time while programming.
anyways, soon AI will build whole apps for us, the way things are going, it will be better to learn correct prompting to express our ideas on what we want to be built for us.
I love your vids but I disagree (depending who's watching your video). What about a scenario where you want to quickly test the market with an idea and you don't want to sink alot of money into an idea you "think" will work? How about use Bubble to build MVP to prove its viable to the market in a short timeline. If it is NOT a market fit, you'll know very soon and you dodge a bullet. If it is a good fit because the market as responded positively, then you know its a worthwhile investment of time in resources to build it "right." At that point, YES, you should learn to code because theres motivation. Assuming someone will "just" learn to code and build a website is a huge, assumption in my opinion.
MVPs using no-code platforms are a 100% viable option, but never try to scale on a no-code platform.
I agree. :) thanks for amazing videos. I’m a lifetime subscriber of your content
That’s what I appreciate about you.
You are honest and that’s rare
It makes sense what you say.
I have thought same thing re when it’s time to scale after building on Nocode platform , then what?
It defo has its use cases ie internal CRM’s etc
I am still a huge fan
Always will be
Thank you!
Wow! 🤯 👏 props to you for giving an unpopular opinion. Much respect 🫡
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