Redford was the sort of actor who got cast as the hero in thrillers of the 70s and 80s that Winter Soldier is modeled after. So casting him as the villain is a great move that subverts expectations of people familiar with the sort of roles he usually plays.
Yes the Russo Brothers have Saturday specifically wanted him for that purpose. And when they did have him cast, there were parts of the story that were made to pay homage to his roles in those movies
Interesting. I would say one of my few disappointments with this movie is the LACK of subversion around Redford's character. He seems like a semi-annoying political guy from the start, then it becomes clear that SHIELD is being corrupted, which ALWAYS naturally leads you to suspect the political guy at the top...and that's exactly who the bad guy was. For that to be a real surprise he would've needed to have a stronger "good guy" characterization early on. I dunno, I haven't rewatched the beginning of the movie in depth in a while, but I just don't recall much in that direction before the "twist". Perhaps they were relying on meta-feelings about the actor too much...or maybe I just forgot that they did that :P
I'll 'fess to something: every time a reactor distrustis Pierce, I die a little inside. HOW COULD anyboy distrust Robert Freaking Redford? It's unconstitutional, that's what it is.
A fun part about the directors is that they had only done comedy before this movie, and the most successful things they had been a part of were the shows Arrested Development and Community. Kevin Feige, president of Marvel Studios, contacted them about making The Winter Soldier after he watched an episode of Community with plenty of paintball action and thought that they had an eye for action. That led to these two comedy directors making one of the most celebrated superhero movies ever.
If you saw Thor: The Dark World in 3D, after the coming attractions played and just before the movie started, they showed the whole elevator scene through till the end of the fight. It was the most epic way to get hyped for a movie that was months away.
This movie was an even bigger thing for us who were watching Agents of Shield after the Avengers movie. Even though Marvel didn't want to allow AoS to be part of the MCU, AoS went out of their way to stick to the continuity of the movies.
I mean, AoS didn't do any of that against Marvel's wishes because, y'know, they just wouldn't have been allowed to :). You don't get appearing in the season finale of a TV show if Marvel hasn't signed off on it. (but I do agree that it's disappointing AoS has _more or less_ been shunted off into its own thing and ignored by the MCU at large because big chunks of it, S4 especially, are still some of the best stuff Marvel's done on screen IMO - keep hoping but I figure if it didn't happen in something like e.g. "Secret Invasion" it's _probably_ not gonna happen. Though some of the Netflix stuff has made it over so you never know...)
this was the movie that made people realize that these movies could be more than just superhero comic book movies, as fun and successful as they were. it had smart and engaging writing, great character studies, a crazy twist (which would've come from on high and not the russo brothers but gd does it feel completely organic unlike most decisions from on high in hollywood), and it's STILL funny on top of the spy thriller vibes. it also convinced people that captain america was actually cool, and a really interesting character--more than just a relic of the past. it's a standout in the MCU
garry shandling whispering "heil hydra" retroactively makes the beginning of iron man 2 absolutely nuts. hydra was THIS CLOSE 🤏to having iron man tech!
That moment always makes me think that Tony's position in Captain America 3 is that much dumber. The Tony from Iron Man 2 and Captain America 3 are VERY different Tonys and I feel like Iron Man 2's Tony is the correct one.
@3Rayfire I mean, yeah. He was changed by the attack on New York and Sokovia. It fed his paranoia. He also still has an ego, so he sees some of it as "not his fault" so the other members need to be reigned in, while also thinking he can get more official clearance from the government to do what he wants after the Ultron fuck up. Guilt, paranoia, and a little ego and hubris that "he knows best" is Civil War Tony. He's still out there engaging with the public and taking crap (he still runs a business). The other members pretty much stay out of the public eye. The talk he had with the lady backstage was a huge weight on him.
@@3Rayfire lol I know! I wouldn't go so far as to call him an idiot but his deep seated, barely addressed trauma and paranoia was calling the shots with that one and not logic. If he had been thinking clearly, I like to think he would've either a) been open to listening to the others concerns, or b) come up with a clever middle ground that has both accountability AND security measures in case of situations like Hydra
@@3Rayfire CA3 is post Ultron. Tony has lost faith that he is a righteous steward of power. He even says something along the lines of, "We need to be put in check."
I think it really helps that Scarlett Johansson and Chris Evans have a good working chemistry. They had filmed multiple movies together by the time they both ended up in the MCU.
One of the technicians/scientists behind Pierce - bald guy with a beard and glasses - in the scene when Bucky is being reconditioned is Ed Brubaker, co-creator of the Winter Soldier in the comics. He didn't create Bucky - Joe Simon and Jack Kirby did - but he came up with the idea of Bucky having survived and become the Winder Soldier. Until Brubaker, there was an expression that "Nobody stays dead in comics except Uncle Ben and Bucky."
People inside the industry, no matter who they were working for, had a saying. When one of them mentioned that a character was being killed, someone else would ask, "Are they dead, or are they Bucky dead?" 'Cuz everybody figured Bucky was never coming back. In fact, his return caused one of those tempest-in-a-teacup furors that comic fans are so notorious for.
as for getting his old uniform: it's not just a great movie moment, it's character driven! he's trying to spark bucky's memories by exposing him to a familiar uniform from before! ugh this movie is so well done it's so great that it's literally just a random desk jockey nervously saying no to rumlow that started SHIELD fighting back, not some badass trained spy or soldier. it's genuinely a beautiful "oh i'm sorry, didi step on your moment?" out of all nat's bangers in this movie, i think this is probably my favorite lmao 33:25 nick had a backup retinal scan and profile of his bad eye knowing no one would think of it "this movie is BIG" oh you have no idea lol. it completely changed the fabric and trajectory of the show agents of SHIELD from an kind of aimless, barely tied in show to an intriguing spy thriller drama in it's own right. fuck, it was literally like a snap of the fingers mid episode and everything got dialed up to 11. it was so cool to see it happen and still cool to think about now
Him putting his old suit on also represents him embracing his old ideologies instead of the current ones. When he did his work in his old suit, he was fighting bullies, in his new suit, he's the pawn of bullies.
The Australian one is hilarious. AC/DC makes sense, but how many Americans know what a Tim Tam is? And even if Cap consulted Australians, come on, Skippy?
This is my literal favorite movie. Not just production value but story telling, bringing something 70 years later to evolve the stakes. I actually believe Steve's story line is genuinely heartbreaking. From his point of view everything he sacrificed his life for in the past didn't truly stop Hydra so its a huge gut punch for him.
Someone told me that the phone trick with the aluminum can lid actually worked, and the utility companies made it impossible to twist open after the movie released.
@@AneudiD78 It worked on _some_ phones at the time but not all and maybe only in the US (not long after I saw the movie in the mid 80s I distinctly remember trying it on a pay phone here in the UK and no dice unfortunately :).
@@etthelost - Touche! My only complaint about that movie is that they had Wolverine looking the best he had ever looked up until that point - in the future, with grey streaks in his hair, yellow in his suit, and the adamantium claws back... but we never got to see him fight any sentinels then. Obviously it made sense for the plot, but darn.
Someone mentioned how this movie had tie-ins with "Agents of SHIELD" (on ABC). Also of note, the often overlooked series "Agent Carter" premiered shortly after this. It is definitely not critical watching for the MCU, but it is worth calling out for Haley Atwell's great performance and the look at Peggy Carter and Howard Stark's roles in the creation of SHIELD.
@@OwlyrossI love the show but I was glad AoS untethered itself from the movies. Because the moment they started doing their own thing the show became amazing, almost perfect
@@JamailvanWestering It's honestly more aggravating that the films didn't react to what was going on in Agents. AoS's premise was based around the idea that we'd see the fall out of the movies in more detail and that really meant something with Age...it's one of the few things I hard disagree with Feige over. But at least the show had a good long run. And Agent Carter was just incredible. Or maybe I think Hayley Atwell is perfect no matter what. Oh obligatory, Quake did it better than Captain Marvel shout out.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was half way through their first season when the producers were told about this movie. The way they incorporated this into their show was legendary. It sounds strange, bu this is the first film that nailed how Cap is portrayed to move and fight in the comics. I mean comics are 2D... they do not move. But something about the previous two Cap appearances is so inferior to his movement and fighting in this. The scene where he tears through the building and throws the shield at Winter Soldier is one of my most rewound scenes in the MCU. And the Winter Soldier "screech" score is fab. This was the best MCU movie by far.
Yeah, it kinda highlights the plot hole of each of the post-Avengers solo films. Now that the Avengers are a team, why can't they give each other a call to lend a hand (or a really strong pair of green fists) each time they encounter a major threat on their own? The movies never really have an answer for that, since it would probably mean that they'd be over in 5-10 minutes. It's the classic old plot hole of "Why didn't they do that earlier in the movie? Because then we wouldn't have a movie." So it's really just better not to think about that.
@glennwelsh9784 they can't really do like the comic books do, which is have a little blurb at the bottom that says Iron Man is busy fighting AIM in Tennessee. Especially since in some of these movies they're supposed to happen simultaneously, or at least with some type of overlap But also, I think like, "Where is Iron Man? Well, we know he doesn't live in DC." So, while you might be able to call him, he's not just going to show up. Whereas later on when things happen in New York, it makes sense to question why Spider-Man doesn't show up.
@@glennwelsh9784 I think this film does have the best justification. This is all secret spy stuff, the manhunt for Captain America wasn't on the news, it was a SHIELD/Hydra operation at point-blank range with SHIELD HQ. If Nat or Steve had actually called any of their friends they would've alerted SHIELD to their location and possibly caused more damage. At this stage Tony and Bruce are in Stark Tower in New York, Thor was most recently in London with Jane, Hawkeye is probably at home in Iowa. So the we didn't have time justification holds water. Also in his first appearance Nick Fury shuts down JARVIS, so SHIELD potentially has the tech or the foothold in Tony's tech to actually disable or Override the Iron Man suit, so maybe having Tony show up could make things worse. As for Bruce...I wouldn't really rely on the Hulk's IFF in this kind of situation.
@@gabrielleroux2333PJ’s are pararescue teams with the US Air Force. They do a lot of search & rescue work. They also rescue downed airmen & aid other Special Forces teams in need of assistance.
The Bucky past and present experiments started with him when Steve first found him, “thought you were dead, thought you were smaller” which is what allowed him to survive the fall. The brainwashing came after they found his body in the snow, hence, The Winter Soldier. This movie is amazing and everything the Russo brothers do in this universe is phenomenal. You have some darn exciting stuff coming up Sha. Enjoy
@@maxducoudrayit may also come from a poem talking about the summer soldier and the winter soldier. The winter soldier is the one who is fighting on through the tough times
The Russos previously directed episodes of Arrested Development and Community. It was their work on a famous “paintball” episode of the latter that earned them this job. As a result, you’ll see multiple Community cameos in their movies and Arrested Development Easter eggs. The janitor they pulled a gun in was Danny Pudi who played Abed.
@@Eidlones I don't think it's a terrible story in itself, but it definitely makes his line here pretty silly :P What can I say, that's what happens when you write something "badass" but don't actually have a plan to back it up...
My favorite bit of trivia is that the Winter Soldier's theme which includes the screeches like the one at 39:42 was made using Sebastian Stan's scream in Cap 1 as he fell from the train.
10:28 Steve Rogers: *You know i couldn't leave my best girl, when she owes me a dance."* If they doesn't bring a tear 😢 to your eyes, you have either missed out or never experienced love and loyalty
Bucky was made into a super soldier when he was experimented on in the first movie. Zola was able to recreate the serum. This does get revealed in something way way later but not in as many words, definitely not as if it’s a big revelation. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone be surprised by it, honestly. I think most just assumed he was made a super soldier
That little run up the wall as Steve rounded the corner IS faster than just running, because he'd have had to slow down a little to take the turn properly if he'd stayed running on the floor. Much the same way that bobsleds (for example) ride up on a curve to take a turn at speed. That aside, this is - in my very humble opinion - STILL the best MCU movie ever made. It's not about the world-ending stakes, it's not about caped gods flying around destroying entire cities while trying to fight the bad guys, it's not overly fantastical, AND it's based on one of my favourite comic book arcs from Cap. It feels exactly like the sort of thing Captain America was made for. It's also just a really REALLY solidly made movie that could almost stand completely alone - separate from the MCU in general - and still be rock solid.
Also, Winter Soldier has the Super Soldier serum just like Cap. That’s what Hydra was experimenting on him with. So he’s basically Captain America with PTSD. Bucky is my favorite MCU character. Best character arc.
Chris and Scarlett were in The Perfect Score (2004) about teens stealing SAT answers to have better collegiate options. You can really see the chemistry back then, so it's not surprising they just riffed for dialogue in this film.
I love how Natasha'a skill is highlighted in the mall scene, keeping them safe while also keeping them from starting a fight that they probably wouldn't win. She's so cool!
So Shanelle knows who Scarlet Witch is. Now I really wanna see a reverse meme of her dressed as Wanda telling you-know-who, "I don't even know who you are" With you-know-who replying, "You will "
Knowing that S.H.I.E.L.D. was compromised by HYDRA adds more weight to certain scenes in the earlier MCU movies. It definitely shows us what Senator Stern’s actual motivation was to get his hands on Iron Man’s suit in Iron Man 2.
Fun Fact: Chris Evans did all of his own running scenes but they did edits make him faster to make his powers accurate. They said that his running form is 100% efficient and almost impossible for a stunt double to recreate it. Apparently he did ballet as a kid and his running style is described as "a dancer's run". If you look at any of his running scenes, his head has no up-and-down movement.
Trivia: The "Scream" that is the Winter Soldier's callsign in the film is actually a remux of Bucky's scream when he fell from the train in the first CA movie. It was meant to be both character specific; and evoke a sense of the monster appearing like in a slasher film.
best heroic moment? the guy in the control room refusing to launch because of "...captains orders" excellent reaction! i really enjoy that you take the time to think about and analyze the movie, but don't let it get in the way of the fun of the movie! keep up the great work, and i cannot wait for the next one!
Batroc "The Leaper" is a high level fighter, he's played by Georges St.Pierre, a former UFC welterweight champ and some would argue he's the best fighter of all time
Here's another FUN FACT: Whenever you see Bucky/Winter Soldier in this movie there's always a high pitched sound/screech that you hear. That sound is actually taken from the first Captain American movie. It is Bucky's scream when he is falling out of the train and they pitched it up for The Winter Soldier.
Also, most gun training is built around center mass aiming. That said to quote T2, "It's a damn minigun" the first shot is accurate after that, with that thing blazing between 2000 and 6000 rounds per minute that, guy was an ace for keeping it on a target that was advancing on him at all.
This was during the time when the TV side was the most integrated with the movie side. (The MCU is both.) Agents of SHIELD was in S02, I think, and they were reacting to the events of Winter Soldier, just like they reacted to the events of Dark World.
Actually, Season 1, episode 17 ties directly with the release of "Captain America: The Winter Soldier". The episode "Turn, Turn, Turn" aired on April 8, 2014. "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" was released in theaters on April 4, 2014. Likewise, "Thor: The Dark World" lined up with Season 1, Episode 8 "The Well". And Extremis from "Iron Man 3" was very much a part of the first 7 episodes of the show.
@@TheCkent100 Yes, we see the exposing of Hydra from those characters' perspectives, and it pretty much gives the show a "soft reboot." I think it got better after that.
The Russo Brothers did this film after directing numerous episodes of Dan Harmon‘s show community. Specifically, the action packed paintball episodes. It started a game amongst the community fandom because the Russo Brothers would bring actors from community into the Marvel movies with them. For example, Danny Pudi, who played Abed Nadir on community is in the shield headquarters and move to let Captain America make his speech.
This is, by far, the best movie in MCU. Civil War comes close, but only close. It's a spy movie - the only thing is it's not James Bond, but Capt. America. High hopes for Captain America: Brave New World.
My favourite mcu film. The friendship between black widow and captain America is a real joy. The tense don't know who to trust vibe is great. The emotional stuff with Bucky and Cap. Just so many good things about this movie.
7:49 Yes. 20:38 Nope ... War Games. Hope it's not a spoiler but in the MCU Bucky and Black Widow aren't from the same sort of people. That's all I'll say about that. You'll have to find out the rest on your own.
There’s a rumor that the directors set out to make a movie that the Honest Trailers channel could find nothing to complain about. They pretty much succeeded.
Since 2002, the Washington DC Area Film Critics has had their own awards ceremonies for film. Winter Soldier won the award for Best Portrayal of DC in a movie.
Running up the wall a bit on sharp turns in hallways would probably be beneficial to Captain America because he runs so fast and doesn’t want to lose momentum when he’s chasing someone.
I appreciate the speed you're taking through the MCU. When you get to this movie, you really feel like putting the brick on the accelerator to go through more!
12:47 The tool he used to cut a hole in the road to escape, is a reference to his Star Wars character. Speaking of which, every movie in Phase 2 of the MCU has a character lose a hand, also a reference to Star Wars.
Purple guy is different from the Red Skull. Enough said about that. One of the great, great superhero movies. Intense, interwoven with lore from the previous movies but presented well enough stand alone (the visit to the Smithsonian is such a great way to help people who don't memorize the movies like we do), and it's such a satisfying conclusion with an uncertain future for Bucky. So great!
Yes, "running up the wall" like he did is quite a bit quicker. He's actually not so much running up it as he is pushing off it to change his trajectory. In the first Cap movie we see him fall over into a store window because he was only using the ground to change direction and his momentum carried him onward. Pushing off the wall means he doesn't need to slow down before turning the corner. From a physics perspective: anything you can do to align your acceleration vector as close to your center of mass as possible will make you faster (as in take less time, rather than necessarily give you a higher instantaneous velocity).
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"Shall we play a game?" is from the movie, "Wargames", 1983.
I'm paused and tearing up. I'm so old...
@@DarrenBenfer😂 yup😢
YES! Should be another on Shanelle's list. If you liked Ferris Bueller, ya gotta see this!!
the only winning move is not to play.
Dammit, *THAT'S* where it was from! It rang a bell but I just couldn't place it. Been a while though.
Redford was the sort of actor who got cast as the hero in thrillers of the 70s and 80s that Winter Soldier is modeled after. So casting him as the villain is a great move that subverts expectations of people familiar with the sort of roles he usually plays.
Yes the Russo Brothers have Saturday specifically wanted him for that purpose. And when they did have him cast, there were parts of the story that were made to pay homage to his roles in those movies
Interesting. I would say one of my few disappointments with this movie is the LACK of subversion around Redford's character. He seems like a semi-annoying political guy from the start, then it becomes clear that SHIELD is being corrupted, which ALWAYS naturally leads you to suspect the political guy at the top...and that's exactly who the bad guy was. For that to be a real surprise he would've needed to have a stronger "good guy" characterization early on. I dunno, I haven't rewatched the beginning of the movie in depth in a while, but I just don't recall much in that direction before the "twist". Perhaps they were relying on meta-feelings about the actor too much...or maybe I just forgot that they did that :P
I'll 'fess to something: every time a reactor distrustis Pierce, I die a little inside. HOW COULD anyboy distrust Robert Freaking Redford? It's unconstitutional, that's what it is.
A fun part about the directors is that they had only done comedy before this movie, and the most successful things they had been a part of were the shows Arrested Development and Community. Kevin Feige, president of Marvel Studios, contacted them about making The Winter Soldier after he watched an episode of Community with plenty of paintball action and thought that they had an eye for action. That led to these two comedy directors making one of the most celebrated superhero movies ever.
It's so unexpected, I was shocked when there wasn't a bunch of action all over their imdb!
"Before we get started, does anyone want to get out?" Iconic. Still my favorite line from any MCU movie. 🏆
I've got to say I'm pretty fond of a future line Captain America is going to say in an elevator during a similar moment!
@@questionmarkesee 😂 even against former friends, Steve regrettably is a "Very Nice Guy".. another famous line 😏 "I can Do this, 😜 All Day!"
If you saw Thor: The Dark World in 3D, after the coming attractions played and just before the movie started, they showed the whole elevator scene through till the end of the fight. It was the most epic way to get hyped for a movie that was months away.
Great, but I still think a line from the next Captain America movie is better.
I LOVED that line 😂😂
Arguably one of the best movies in the MCU, don't forget "on your left!"
I do what he does, only slower.
Callbacks are only good when we remember them ourselves. Telling someone to watch out for them kind of ruins the fun of it.
It's my #1
@@maxducoudrayyes. It’s very annoying and most likely a troll
@@styles9956what makes you think I'm a troll? 😂
This movie was an even bigger thing for us who were watching Agents of Shield after the Avengers movie. Even though Marvel didn't want to allow AoS to be part of the MCU, AoS went out of their way to stick to the continuity of the movies.
I mean, AoS didn't do any of that against Marvel's wishes because, y'know, they just wouldn't have been allowed to :). You don't get appearing in the season finale of a TV show if Marvel hasn't signed off on it.
(but I do agree that it's disappointing AoS has _more or less_ been shunted off into its own thing and ignored by the MCU at large because big chunks of it, S4 especially, are still some of the best stuff Marvel's done on screen IMO - keep hoping but I figure if it didn't happen in something like e.g. "Secret Invasion" it's _probably_ not gonna happen. Though some of the Netflix stuff has made it over so you never know...)
"Before we get started . . . does anyone wanna get out?" most badass line ever.
A decade later, this is still peak MCU.
Haven’t seen it in a while, watching her reminded me that yea, this is peak MCU. Boy we had it good.
this was the movie that made people realize that these movies could be more than just superhero comic book movies, as fun and successful as they were. it had smart and engaging writing, great character studies, a crazy twist (which would've come from on high and not the russo brothers but gd does it feel completely organic unlike most decisions from on high in hollywood), and it's STILL funny on top of the spy thriller vibes. it also convinced people that captain america was actually cool, and a really interesting character--more than just a relic of the past. it's a standout in the MCU
Yeah, this movie was a 70s/80s political thriller that happens to be set in the MCU.
@@mauz4588 Especially with Redford in it, spot on.
garry shandling whispering "heil hydra" retroactively makes the beginning of iron man 2 absolutely nuts. hydra was THIS CLOSE 🤏to having iron man tech!
I seriously never thought of that little tidbit in the many times I've seen those movies. Wow.
That moment always makes me think that Tony's position in Captain America 3 is that much dumber. The Tony from Iron Man 2 and Captain America 3 are VERY different Tonys and I feel like Iron Man 2's Tony is the correct one.
@3Rayfire I mean, yeah. He was changed by the attack on New York and Sokovia. It fed his paranoia. He also still has an ego, so he sees some of it as "not his fault" so the other members need to be reigned in, while also thinking he can get more official clearance from the government to do what he wants after the Ultron fuck up.
Guilt, paranoia, and a little ego and hubris that "he knows best" is Civil War Tony. He's still out there engaging with the public and taking crap (he still runs a business). The other members pretty much stay out of the public eye. The talk he had with the lady backstage was a huge weight on him.
@@3Rayfire lol I know! I wouldn't go so far as to call him an idiot but his deep seated, barely addressed trauma and paranoia was calling the shots with that one and not logic. If he had been thinking clearly, I like to think he would've either a) been open to listening to the others concerns, or b) come up with a clever middle ground that has both accountability AND security measures in case of situations like Hydra
@@3Rayfire CA3 is post Ultron. Tony has lost faith that he is a righteous steward of power. He even says something along the lines of, "We need to be put in check."
I love Steve and Nats friendship, one of the best parts of the mcu in general
In real life. I suspect they hooked up when they were young and are still great friends still today.
I know that they have known each other and been friends a long time, so they have a Natural repore.......
I think it really helps that Scarlett Johansson and Chris Evans have a good working chemistry. They had filmed multiple movies together by the time they both ended up in the MCU.
It totally makes the movie and i love how this movie uses the two of them
One of the technicians/scientists behind Pierce - bald guy with a beard and glasses - in the scene when Bucky is being reconditioned is Ed Brubaker, co-creator of the Winter Soldier in the comics. He didn't create Bucky - Joe Simon and Jack Kirby did - but he came up with the idea of Bucky having survived and become the Winder Soldier. Until Brubaker, there was an expression that "Nobody stays dead in comics except Uncle Ben and Bucky."
and Gwen Stacy
People inside the industry, no matter who they were working for, had a saying. When one of them mentioned that a character was being killed, someone else would ask, "Are they dead, or are they Bucky dead?" 'Cuz everybody figured Bucky was never coming back. In fact, his return caused one of those tempest-in-a-teacup furors that comic fans are so notorious for.
as for getting his old uniform: it's not just a great movie moment, it's character driven! he's trying to spark bucky's memories by exposing him to a familiar uniform from before! ugh this movie is so well done
it's so great that it's literally just a random desk jockey nervously saying no to rumlow that started SHIELD fighting back, not some badass trained spy or soldier. it's genuinely a beautiful
"oh i'm sorry, didi step on your moment?" out of all nat's bangers in this movie, i think this is probably my favorite lmao
33:25 nick had a backup retinal scan and profile of his bad eye knowing no one would think of it
"this movie is BIG" oh you have no idea lol. it completely changed the fabric and trajectory of the show agents of SHIELD from an kind of aimless, barely tied in show to an intriguing spy thriller drama in it's own right. fuck, it was literally like a snap of the fingers mid episode and everything got dialed up to 11. it was so cool to see it happen and still cool to think about now
Him putting his old suit on also represents him embracing his old ideologies instead of the current ones. When he did his work in his old suit, he was fighting bullies, in his new suit, he's the pawn of bullies.
THANKS FOR CLARIFYING the Nick eye thing!! I was so confused by that, but I'm too scared to look things up for spoilers
@@ShanelleRiccio totally fair lol.
Fun fact that shot of the list was different in different countries to reflect their regional differences
I was checking the comments before making the same comment........
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The Australian one is hilarious. AC/DC makes sense, but how many Americans know what a Tim Tam is? And even if Cap consulted Australians, come on, Skippy?
LOVE haha
This is my literal favorite movie. Not just production value but story telling, bringing something 70 years later to evolve the stakes. I actually believe Steve's story line is genuinely heartbreaking. From his point of view everything he sacrificed his life for in the past didn't truly stop Hydra so its a huge gut punch for him.
This was reallllly well done! A favorite for me too (so far)
This movie happened in the middle of the first Season of Agents of shield and was canon to the show. It was an amazing twist and lined up so well.
Oh that sounds like it would HIT
Nick Fury’s grave stone quotes Jules from Pulp Fiction “the path of the righteous man”
I missed that! time for a Pulp Rewatch!
20:40 It is a quote from "War Games" staring Mathew Broderick, add it to the list.
I agree; add it to the list. :)
Must see movie also with Dabney Coleman staring in it.
Someone told me that the phone trick with the aluminum can lid actually worked, and the utility companies made it impossible to twist open after the movie released.
@@AneudiD78 It worked on _some_ phones at the time but not all and maybe only in the US (not long after I saw the movie in the mid 80s I distinctly remember trying it on a pay phone here in the UK and no dice unfortunately :).
Crazy that Cap saw it before Shanelle.
This movie and Gurdians of the Galaxy were released the same year. Great year in the MCU!
Not to mention, days of future past - X-Men. Great year!
@@etthelost - Touche! My only complaint about that movie is that they had Wolverine looking the best he had ever looked up until that point - in the future, with grey streaks in his hair, yellow in his suit, and the adamantium claws back... but we never got to see him fight any sentinels then. Obviously it made sense for the plot, but darn.
@@maximillianosabenya agreed, in the comic he stays behind and Kitty goes back, but for movie purposes, it was the right change.
So pumped for Guardians
Still my favorite MCU film. Cap telling Bucky, "I'm with you to the end of the line" broke me.
Every. Single. Time. 💔😭
My favourite line from the whole film
The brotherly love beautiful ❤❤❤
Such terrific writing, acting and directing in this film. So good!
SO SAD
@@ShanelleRiccio Marvel was just preparing me for what was to come. Those bastards 🤣
Someone mentioned how this movie had tie-ins with "Agents of SHIELD" (on ABC). Also of note, the often overlooked series "Agent Carter" premiered shortly after this. It is definitely not critical watching for the MCU, but it is worth calling out for Haley Atwell's great performance and the look at Peggy Carter and Howard Stark's roles in the creation of SHIELD.
Oh I wish they would have kept Agents of Shield in the continuity
@@OwlyrossI love the show but I was glad AoS untethered itself from the movies.
Because the moment they started doing their own thing the show became amazing, almost perfect
@@JamailvanWestering It's honestly more aggravating that the films didn't react to what was going on in Agents. AoS's premise was based around the idea that we'd see the fall out of the movies in more detail and that really meant something with Age...it's one of the few things I hard disagree with Feige over. But at least the show had a good long run. And Agent Carter was just incredible. Or maybe I think Hayley Atwell is perfect no matter what.
Oh obligatory, Quake did it better than Captain Marvel shout out.
@@3Rayfire not just Quake, May, Yo-Yo, Simmons all were better written and stronger woman than outside of Nat from the movies
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was half way through their first season when the producers were told about this movie. The way they incorporated this into their show was legendary.
It sounds strange, bu this is the first film that nailed how Cap is portrayed to move and fight in the comics. I mean comics are 2D... they do not move. But something about the previous two Cap appearances is so inferior to his movement and fighting in this. The scene where he tears through the building and throws the shield at Winter Soldier is one of my most rewound scenes in the MCU. And the Winter Soldier "screech" score is fab.
This was the best MCU movie by far.
"Is Sam a hero, with those wings?" followed directly by "Where's Ironman?" is a hilarious level of disrespect.
Hawkeye is like “what am I over here? string cheese?”
Yeah, it kinda highlights the plot hole of each of the post-Avengers solo films. Now that the Avengers are a team, why can't they give each other a call to lend a hand (or a really strong pair of green fists) each time they encounter a major threat on their own? The movies never really have an answer for that, since it would probably mean that they'd be over in 5-10 minutes. It's the classic old plot hole of "Why didn't they do that earlier in the movie? Because then we wouldn't have a movie." So it's really just better not to think about that.
@glennwelsh9784 they can't really do like the comic books do, which is have a little blurb at the bottom that says Iron Man is busy fighting AIM in Tennessee. Especially since in some of these movies they're supposed to happen simultaneously, or at least with some type of overlap
But also, I think like, "Where is Iron Man? Well, we know he doesn't live in DC." So, while you might be able to call him, he's not just going to show up. Whereas later on when things happen in New York, it makes sense to question why Spider-Man doesn't show up.
@@glennwelsh9784 I think this film does have the best justification. This is all secret spy stuff, the manhunt for Captain America wasn't on the news, it was a SHIELD/Hydra operation at point-blank range with SHIELD HQ. If Nat or Steve had actually called any of their friends they would've alerted SHIELD to their location and possibly caused more damage. At this stage Tony and Bruce are in Stark Tower in New York, Thor was most recently in London with Jane, Hawkeye is probably at home in Iowa. So the we didn't have time justification holds water. Also in his first appearance Nick Fury shuts down JARVIS, so SHIELD potentially has the tech or the foothold in Tony's tech to actually disable or Override the Iron Man suit, so maybe having Tony show up could make things worse. As for Bruce...I wouldn't really rely on the Hulk's IFF in this kind of situation.
😂😂 i know poor Falcon
Sam was a PJ in the USAF, the closest thing to a real-life super hero you're going to see!
Truth. They are the ones all the other special forces call when they get in trouble.
What are even those acronyms ?
@@gabrielleroux2333PJ’s are pararescue teams with the US Air Force. They do a lot of search & rescue work. They also rescue downed airmen & aid other Special Forces teams in need of assistance.
"That Others May Live" is the motto of the USAF Pararescue and would be an excellent one for Captain America too
A buddy from my basic training flight became a PJ. To look at him, you'd never know how hardcore this guy was.
The Bucky past and present experiments started with him when Steve first found him, “thought you were dead, thought you were smaller” which is what allowed him to survive the fall. The brainwashing came after they found his body in the snow, hence, The Winter Soldier. This movie is amazing and everything the Russo brothers do in this universe is phenomenal. You have some darn exciting stuff coming up Sha. Enjoy
What's crazy is that they never show Bucky hand to hand or strength in the first film...he basically brandished a gun for the most part
I don't think the Winter Soldier name comes from finding him in the snow. Winter is a term commonly applied to Soviet things during the cold war.
@@maxducoudrayit may also come from a poem talking about the summer soldier and the winter soldier. The winter soldier is the one who is fighting on through the tough times
@@chadjenkins4876 Possibly but also it is a comic character first and Marvel’s soviet team is called the Winter Guard.
@@maxducoudray Yeah, it's just a Marvel Soviet naming convention.
15:09 - *_TAHITI! It’s a magical place!_* (IYKYK) 😜
_"How was Tahiti?"_
_"It Sucked!"_
"When I had nothing, I still had Bucky" - an iconic line that signifies Loyalty beyond friendship.
This movie had large repercussions in the show Agents Of Shield!
Sam is like Hawkeye. They're normal human soldiers that are extremely skilled with a particular weapon.
Thanks for this!! Helpful!!
The Russos previously directed episodes of Arrested Development and Community. It was their work on a famous “paintball” episode of the latter that earned them this job. As a result, you’ll see multiple Community cameos in their movies and Arrested Development Easter eggs. The janitor they pulled a gun in was Danny Pudi who played Abed.
You will also find out what SHIELD stands for when you watch Iron Man. Agent Coulson keeps repeating it until he just finally calls it SHIELD.
"are we ever going to get that story" Yes, and I think it's a great story
I answered her out loud when she asked that. "Yes you are."
I think it's a terrible story, cause it's literally just a joke, and removes all weight from him saying that in this movie.
@@Eidlones I don't think it's a terrible story in itself, but it definitely makes his line here pretty silly :P What can I say, that's what happens when you write something "badass" but don't actually have a plan to back it up...
Co-Director Joe Russo was the doctor who treated Natasha's shoulder.
Still one of the best MCU movies.
My favorite bit of trivia is that the Winter Soldier's theme which includes the screeches like the one at 39:42 was made using Sebastian Stan's scream in Cap 1 as he fell from the train.
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Steve Rogers: *You know i couldn't leave my best girl, when she owes me a dance."*
If they doesn't bring a tear 😢 to your eyes, you have either missed out or never experienced love and loyalty
FINALLY! My fave MCU film!
I love that they got Gary Sinise to do the Smithsonian narrations.
Lieutenant Dan! Is that you?!?
REALLY?!
@@ShanelleRiccio yes!
Bucky was made into a super soldier when he was experimented on in the first movie. Zola was able to recreate the serum.
This does get revealed in something way way later but not in as many words, definitely not as if it’s a big revelation. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone be surprised by it, honestly. I think most just assumed he was made a super soldier
This is like a 70's political thriller.
It's so very appropriate they got Robert Redford.
Three Days of the Condor is its inspiration and that’s my favorite Robert Redford movie. ❤❤ she should watch that now.
That little run up the wall as Steve rounded the corner IS faster than just running, because he'd have had to slow down a little to take the turn properly if he'd stayed running on the floor. Much the same way that bobsleds (for example) ride up on a curve to take a turn at speed.
That aside, this is - in my very humble opinion - STILL the best MCU movie ever made. It's not about the world-ending stakes, it's not about caped gods flying around destroying entire cities while trying to fight the bad guys, it's not overly fantastical, AND it's based on one of my favourite comic book arcs from Cap. It feels exactly like the sort of thing Captain America was made for. It's also just a really REALLY solidly made movie that could almost stand completely alone - separate from the MCU in general - and still be rock solid.
Yep, standing up to tyranny and deceit, no matter the odds.
I totally agree with all of your points. I love when these tie in, but especially love when they're good stand-alone movies!
Ok, show of hands.
When Shan said "DC?" at the beginning, how many replied to their screens with "No, Marvel." Lol
😂 missed op for a joke on my part
Also, Winter Soldier has the Super Soldier serum just like Cap. That’s what Hydra was experimenting on him with. So he’s basically Captain America with PTSD. Bucky is my favorite MCU character. Best character arc.
@27:28 Shanelle’s not embarrassing. Her reaction was one of the best I’ve seen. She was as giddy as a schoolgirl.
Wow! I’ve seen this a ton of times and never got the “when he got an up-close look at our turbines” line. Great catch Shanelle!
for some reason that moment was really stuck in my head from Avengers 😂
@@ShanelleRiccio I’ve been a subscriber for a few years, I’m so happy that you’re enjoying the MCU!
19:10 “Specimen.” 😂 I love it.
Chris and Scarlett were in The Perfect Score (2004) about teens stealing SAT answers to have better collegiate options. You can really see the chemistry back then, so it's not surprising they just riffed for dialogue in this film.
30:32 My favourite parts of Winter Soldier. The speech and the segments where the regular Shield Agents stand up to Hydra.
I love how Natasha'a skill is highlighted in the mall scene, keeping them safe while also keeping them from starting a fight that they probably wouldn't win. She's so cool!
So Shanelle knows who Scarlet Witch is.
Now I really wanna see a reverse meme of her dressed as Wanda telling you-know-who, "I don't even know who you are"
With you-know-who replying, "You will "
Knowing that S.H.I.E.L.D. was compromised by HYDRA adds more weight to certain scenes in the earlier MCU movies. It definitely shows us what Senator Stern’s actual motivation was to get his hands on Iron Man’s suit in Iron Man 2.
i know i almost need to go back to rewatch everything!
the play a game comment is from War Games
Fun Fact: Chris Evans did all of his own running scenes but they did edits make him faster to make his powers accurate. They said that his running form is 100% efficient and almost impossible for a stunt double to recreate it. Apparently he did ballet as a kid and his running style is described as "a dancer's run". If you look at any of his running scenes, his head has no up-and-down movement.
My favorite Captain America movie! The elevator fight is one of my favorite scenes. My favorite line from the movie “Captain’s orders.”
Trivia: The "Scream" that is the Winter Soldier's callsign in the film is actually a remux of Bucky's scream when he fell from the train in the first CA movie. It was meant to be both character specific; and evoke a sense of the monster appearing like in a slasher film.
"Now I know what SHIELD stands for!" - as if Shanelle never watched Iron Man....
best heroic moment? the guy in the control room refusing to launch because of "...captains orders"
excellent reaction! i really enjoy that you take the time to think about and analyze the movie, but don't let it get in the way of the fun of the movie! keep up the great work, and i cannot wait for the next one!
Batroc "The Leaper" is a high level fighter, he's played by Georges St.Pierre, a former UFC welterweight champ and some would argue he's the best fighter of all time
5:18 I love how Cap is so much more precise, powerful, and just straight-up deadly in this one 🤩
Loving your MCU journey, but this is one of the ones I’ve been looking forward to the most!
It's good to remember that in the comic books no one stays dead permanently other than Spiderman's Uncle Ben
And even that's only true for some values of "Spider-man" :).
This where the MCU starts to accelerate to overdrive.
IM READY
Here's another FUN FACT: Whenever you see Bucky/Winter Soldier in this movie there's always a high pitched sound/screech that you hear. That sound is actually taken from the first Captain American movie. It is Bucky's scream when he is falling out of the train and they pitched it up for The Winter Soldier.
"Why didn't they just shoot Captain America's legs?" - Moments like those I just tell myself, "It's a movie."
Also, most gun training is built around center mass aiming. That said to quote T2, "It's a damn minigun" the first shot is accurate after that, with that thing blazing between 2000 and 6000 rounds per minute that, guy was an ace for keeping it on a target that was advancing on him at all.
😂 yeah fair
This movie just sits on a different level than anything else Marvel studios produced. It's unreal.
This was during the time when the TV side was the most integrated with the movie side. (The MCU is both.) Agents of SHIELD was in S02, I think, and they were reacting to the events of Winter Soldier, just like they reacted to the events of Dark World.
Near the end of S01.
Actually, Season 1, episode 17 ties directly with the release of "Captain America: The Winter Soldier". The episode "Turn, Turn, Turn" aired on April 8, 2014. "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" was released in theaters on April 4, 2014.
Likewise, "Thor: The Dark World" lined up with Season 1, Episode 8 "The Well". And Extremis from "Iron Man 3" was very much a part of the first 7 episodes of the show.
@@TheCkent100 Yes, we see the exposing of Hydra from those characters' perspectives, and it pretty much gives the show a "soft reboot." I think it got better after that.
@@joeconcepts5552 _Way_ better IMO, it's like two different shows.
The Russo Brothers did this film after directing numerous episodes of Dan Harmon‘s show community. Specifically, the action packed paintball episodes. It started a game amongst the community fandom because the Russo Brothers would bring actors from community into the Marvel movies with them. For example, Danny Pudi, who played Abed Nadir on community is in the shield headquarters and move to let Captain America make his speech.
I loved that the downfall of Shield carried over into Agents of Shield. Great effort
_"Are we ever gonna get that story? "_
*siiighhhhhh... 😞
so no?!
This is, by far, the best movie in MCU. Civil War comes close, but only close. It's a spy movie - the only thing is it's not James Bond, but Capt. America. High hopes for Captain America: Brave New World.
My favourite mcu film. The friendship between black widow and captain America is a real joy. The tense don't know who to trust vibe is great. The emotional stuff with Bucky and Cap. Just so many good things about this movie.
AGENT'S OF SHIELD!!! Welcome to level 7!!!
Watching Die Hard on network television and edited, Bruce would look up and say "Yippie Kai Yay Mr. Falcon". Those were the words they chose.
You have now met the best MCU directors. The Russo Brothers are fantastic.
7:49 Yes. 20:38 Nope ... War Games. Hope it's not a spoiler but in the MCU Bucky and Black Widow aren't from the same sort of people. That's all I'll say about that. You'll have to find out the rest on your own.
There’s a rumor that the directors set out to make a movie that the Honest Trailers channel could find nothing to complain about. They pretty much succeeded.
And it’s not just a rumor!
A lot of this movie was shot in and around Cleveland where I live. It was very exciting having the stars in town!
"When I joined SHIELD, I thought I was going straight..."
Oh Natasha, SHIELD can only do just so much. 😄
Since 2002, the Washington DC Area Film Critics has had their own awards ceremonies for film. Winter Soldier won the award for Best Portrayal of DC in a movie.
I love Cap because his character reminds me of my grandfather. Poppy fought in the navy in WWII and he Loved big band music.
Captain America has the best trilogy in the MCU in my opinion. I have a feeling that you’ll really like Civil War too!
Absolutely!
Shan asking about clipping Caps legs and my brain fires up the "we shot him in the legs, his shield is the size of a dinner plate"
Yes, let’s go! My favorite MCU movie!
Shanelle's smile and laugh always gets me through the day. Thank you
Running up the wall a bit on sharp turns in hallways would probably be beneficial to Captain America because he runs so fast and doesn’t want to lose momentum when he’s chasing someone.
upon another rewatch, I think he needed the cool little run up
@@ShanelleRiccio But I agree, it wouldn’t help any normal human being…even Usain Bolt.
This is the one that changed things up. Just feels more adult and serious.
I think this was the best plot, writting and editing of all the MCU films. No doubt.
Widely recognized as quite possibly the best of the MARVEL films to this point. I agree. But... the best is yet to come!
I appreciate the speed you're taking through the MCU. When you get to this movie, you really feel like putting the brick on the accelerator to go through more!
This is my favorite MCU movie. I actually went back and watched your reaction to the first Captain America just so I could watch this one 😅
My fav Marvel movie.
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The tool he used to cut a hole in the road to escape, is a reference to his Star Wars character.
Speaking of which, every movie in Phase 2 of the MCU has a character lose a hand, also a reference to Star Wars.
Damn, I'm so hooked on these MCU reactions. It's like nostalgia. Can't wait for Guardians of the Galaxy and most of the upcoming movies.
Purple guy is different from the Red Skull. Enough said about that.
One of the great, great superhero movies. Intense, interwoven with lore from the previous movies but presented well enough stand alone (the visit to the Smithsonian is such a great way to help people who don't memorize the movies like we do), and it's such a satisfying conclusion with an uncertain future for Bucky. So great!
I love watching people watch the MCU story line. So much good content for reactions. Now GOTG time!
The Zola scene is a reference to how he looks in the comics as a half man half computer monitor.
Tge SHIELD acronym was explained to Pepper Potts in Iron Man 2 by Agent Coulson
*Iron Man 1. At the very end of the first film right before Tony's "I am Iron Man" press conference.
"Who became her husband?" There's a reason he's not in the pictures of her family.
I noticed when I was editing, NO HUSBAND
"Shall we play a game?" is from Wargames (1983). An excellent movie and definitely worth reacting to.
I love that Lt dan was the museum voice
Yes, "running up the wall" like he did is quite a bit quicker. He's actually not so much running up it as he is pushing off it to change his trajectory. In the first Cap movie we see him fall over into a store window because he was only using the ground to change direction and his momentum carried him onward. Pushing off the wall means he doesn't need to slow down before turning the corner. From a physics perspective: anything you can do to align your acceleration vector as close to your center of mass as possible will make you faster (as in take less time, rather than necessarily give you a higher instantaneous velocity).