I have 2 Wing Sung 3008 pens that I swapped to Lamy nibs. One 1.1 and the other with a 1.5 I like writing with them both. The screws inside the caps are both rusty and the clear plastic is very discolored. I had two more with fine and extra fine nibs which I gave away. They wrote well, I just don't like fine nibs. They had the same rust on the cap screws. They should use stainless steel screws in the cap and the pens would be near perfect.
A very straightforward review. Thank you for not shoving your personality in the face of your audience like so many of the younger lot do. Enjoyed it. Subbed. Thank you.
Chris. Stop making these videos. I've bought almost every pen you reviewed. Just ordered a pen case. Just realized how many pens I've ordered from watching your channel.
Thanks sir, got one now. It's an extremely useful pen for campus activities, I'm amazed. Been using it to travel many times too. There's no issue regarding the piston filling system or any leakage. I'm paying something cheap for tons of fun, I'm obviously satisfied with the money I used for a good functional pen. I don't have to waste 30$ for TWSBI pens for a workhorse pen considering the money I should use for other primary needs in campus. I'm satisfied with something cheap and useful. Keep making good review videos sir, your reviews are pretty detail compared to many other reviewers.
Neat to see the other stuff on your desk. I have this pen coming and the Prera copy. Got the pink like in your other video because I have some pink ink I want to use.
There is always a lot of stuff on my desk. For some reason I find it impossible to not keep putting stuff on it. Maybe too much stuff.... No, that's not it.
Yes the Chinese charactors do stand for Wing Sung and when pronounced in Chinese is "yourng sern" which translates to: "immortal life". Quite a dramatic name for a pen company, very much in line with the Hero pen company. Fine by me as long as they make good quailty pens.
Just purchased 2 of this Wing Sung 3008, one for myself and the other to be a gift to an old friend that last used a fountain pen when he was in school back in the 70s. Attempting to get him back to use the ultimate writing instrument. BTW since posting your video, there are now several sellers that give buyers option of selecting colour combination of external clip to internal barrel. Example: Gold-Green, Gold-Blue, Silver-Silver, Silver-Purple....so on and so on, total of 8 different colour combinations, wonderful I reckon :-)
Just received the 2 x Wing Sung 3008 pens today. Inked one in a new ink - Robert Oster "Khakhi". It writes just like you said in your video clip. Noticed that the price has come down since you and I bought ours. It now cost under AUS$4 free freight. The sellers have put in their notes that you can leave them a message about your preferred color, if not they will send by random.
While I really only support the more original Chinese pen designs I am very much enjoying your reviews of the various offerings that come out of China and really looking forward to each new video you produce.
Chris you've done it again...the usual high standard review and temptation, temptation! If I may offer a suggestion about naming your WOW, now that you used WOW to the power of 2 (squared), maybe next level could be to the the power of 3(cube) and so on and so on...... :-)
Another pen I have coming via slow boat from China. Great review! Gives me an idea of what I can expect. Thanks again! The clip seems to be a standard style used by Wing Sung. It's identical in shape to the one on my Wing Sung 6100 (except that the 6100's brightwork is "rose gold," except for the nib.)
@@chrisrap52 Think the wind was against the ship the whole way. Took 3 months to get here, even though the label says that it's air posted. Joys of the whole COVID 19 thing...
@@chrisrap52 Exactly. And since China Post things don't usually get tracked once they hit the United States, I've discovered that part of the hold up is with the USPS. I've had it take over a month to get to Michigan from San Francisco.
Great video - thank you for this! I'm very new to the whole fountain pen "thing" and I do love cheap, reliable fountain pens from eBay. Your videos are really helpful in deciding what's good and what's dud.
The piston mechanism does come off. The silver ring under the turning knob is threaded on to the barrel. Turn the piston about half way down the barrel and grip the silver band and unscrew,..pretty simple. These pens are fantastic! What I love about these over the TWSBI is that the feed/grip section is clear and you can see the ink through it so it has a much nicer look.
Thanks for the video, Chris. I just received mine. Very nice pen design, and about half the price of the WS 698. I really like the striated barrel feel. I don't like the blind cap. Locks differently from the WS 698 - this has a detent when you complete a fill. Even when locked, the blind cap still has some play. The 3008 also does not have the inner cap, so worried about nib drying. Worried that when securing the cap too tightly to avoid drying that the barrel will crack. That said, I love that you get a clear look at the nib when the pen is capped. Also, briefly tried with a Lamy nib (1.1mm stub) and works well. Very wet pen.
It's a damn shame that these $15 Chinese pens, some even $5, $2, or $2 pens write and write well out of the box when Visconti pens that cost $700 to $1000+ write poorly or don't write at all.
Most of my pens are the cheaper Chinese pens. I just picked up three of these at $2.55 each. After reading this review, I am blown away. I really only wanted to be able to ensure I had my favourite colours ready to go in a pen. I have a fetish of always having my black Noodler's Feather loaded for writing cheques but I love my turquoise, fushia, purple and a couple of other playful inks, loaded for fun use in my journal. Now I am really looking forward to getting this along with my Wing Sung 3013.
Bull. You've never even owned a Visconti. I've owned a dozen, and used another twenty or more, and every one of them wrote perfectly right out of the box. But, yeah, WOW, this is a great pen, if you don't mind junk that's going to stop working or break if you us eit much at all.
Everyone has their experiences, my Visconti & others I seen didn't write. Good that you like them. We all have different likes. Our goal should be to find them.
@@jamesaritchie1 lol that's funny because all my Visconti's have been crap. So to diagraph. This pen however, I've had for years, use almost everyday and haven't had problem one out off it. If memory serves I paid $1.97 for them with free shipping. BTW, Chinese pens aren't junk. When a manufacturer agrees to make products in China, in exchange for cheap labor they surrender all R&D to the Chinese. Any open manufacture who has ever manufactures in China has surrendered their molds, schematics, martials, etc etc etc. They aren't even knock-offs. They are there very exact same pen. There is no difference in a Parker pen manufactured in China and a wing sung, Jinhao, no name, etc.
You are owning these reviews on these new Wing Sungs. I like the idea of this one because nibs can be altered. Does the piston knob feel secure? I read on the FPN that it there were concerns about the knob not being locked in place or possibly easy to turn in the pocket. How would you rate this relative to the Wing sungs 618 and 698? Which one do you feel is the sturdiest? Are there any other pens like this I am late to discover as well? lol Sorry to ask so many questions but there isn't that much on the FPN about these.
All of these 3 pens are sturdy. None have blind caps that turn easily. None are pocket pens in my view. Suggest a pocket pen like the Lecai. I believe in using a tool as it was designed. Interesting the focus on locked knobs. Do Pelikans or Montblancs have locks.?
I don't think so. I have a Pilot CH 92 (bad nib that needs work, and I dislike the balance of the heavy piston at the end of the barrel) that isn't even locked and neither is my TWSBI Eco (not very comfortable for longer writing sessions). My only concern was if the nob wiggled around loose, which might bring out my OCD side. I did end up ordering the 618 and 698 and I'll see if they will suffice, but to be able to get some dependable sturdy writers for this price may be hard to turn down (and even have to convert others to our addiction). I mean if the Lamy Safari or the Pilot MetroP and the other starter pens had a sections I preferred I'd use them every day. These wing sungs have a section I prefer and am considering using them as every-day-pens, especially if they have that same sturdy feel like the Lamy Safari or Pilot MetroP. I definitely want to give them a try, but as you can imagine it would be a bit of a surprise to have a $4.00 pen feel as sturdy as a Lamy Safari or Pilot MetroP or even a TWSBI 580. I'm not saying they're not, and maybe I am in for some WOW's myself : ). To me even my Pilot Prera has a cheaper feel than the Lamy Safary and Pilot MetroP, so it wouldn't be outlandish. The focus on the knob was of interest in one of the FPN 3008 threads, which is why I ask. I mean, I'm listening and not just arguing as is evinced by my purchase of the 618. These Wow's have my attention and others' as well.
Each of us have personal preferences. With all the variety, it is great that we can find one we like. To me, I do not consider the Safari or Metro to feel sturdy. A 580 is sturdier. A lot is related to weight & balance.
Loved the pen. Nib was smooth. My only gripe was sometimes the feed would deplete and i would have to prime. But that's easy with this pen. and sometimes it would start funny pending the angle of initiation, but that's just the xf nib I had. But!!! cleaning out inks on all the old pens I saw the feed of lamy safari was identical and almost so. Fit in perfectly. Now it has a lamy feed and lamy nib and I donno?, we'll see.
Yes, I've had the drying issue with some, not all, I think with some issues it's the ink. It is easy to reprime the feed with the piston. Let us know how the Lamy feed & feed work out.
So Chris. I noticed, and love by the way, the Lamy Safari feed, through the part where it sits, is full just all the time. I'm wondering if the 3008 feed taken out and micro sanded just a teeny hair, because I believe it was tighter to pull out and relatively easy to slide the Lamy feed in, it might do the trick to temper the reduction in flow. Maybe a taper with the wider end toward the nib so it sits tight still?
I could not find the 3008 but I did fond the 3009. It slorts a hooded nib. I was impressed with the pen. It is a bit short and doesn't post well. There are two things i liked. The ring at the bottom of the barrel removes the piston! The other thing was the price - $3!
I bought a Wing Sung 698 after watching your review. I saw this review and bought a Wing Sung 3008. In both cases I had low expectations because my past experience of Chinese pens has been a bit hit and miss. I have to say I'm very pleasantly surprised; both of these pens feel well made and write quite well. I can't say that one is better than the other although at roughly one quarter of the price of the 698 the 3008 is better value, plus if you want to you can fit a Lamy Safari nib the 3008. And now I ask myself a question - "My Onoto is a truly fabulous pen and will no doubt last my lifetime, but is it really 200 times better than the Wing Sung?" - emotion says "yes", logic says "I don't know".
Chris, you suggest to flush a pen at least once a month. Yes, the ink seems to "gum up" after a couple weeks. Question: if the pen is full of ink, do you rinse out the old ink and refill, or do you keep the old ink and put it back in?? Thanks.....
I reuse the "old" ink, flush with "new" ink. The small amount in the pen will be diluted with the bottle ink. I guess I could discard the "old" ink but there is an irrational frugal side of me that can't do that.
Thank you, Brother......I'll start doing the same! I agree on the flushing once a month part......with 10+ pens filled it's hard to use up a full piston fill of ink within a month!
My Apache Sunset looks very different from how that ink is reading on my monitor (but my ink does look similar to the Apache Sunset samples I've seen on this same monitor).
Thanks for the Review. I've been meaning to get my hand on this one. On a different aspect, I notice you had a Pilot on your WS698, what Pilot Nibs are compatible?
Just wanted to check if the $15 is a good sell for the 698. And it's not. Just received the 3008 recently and I like it quite a bit. EF nib with the wettest line I've seen.
Closer examination of the logo under a loupe shows three concentric circles with a horizontal fountain pen across, which possibly could have the cap posted. What do you reckon?
Chris, I'd say the nib looks more like a Platinum style nib rather than a Lamy nib. Compare it to a Preppy nib if you get a chance. The Platinum Balance has a highly polished version of what looks about the same too.
Do you think the nib on this might be interchangable with something finer or wider? It seems it only comes as a 0.5mm, but Wing Sung has produced other Lamy-style nibs in the past, from what I've seen.
When I order from China on eBay, I use Google Translate to write in Chinese and politely request a color choice instead of "random". I find that often, just because you took the time to write in Chinese and it's familiar, they will honor your color request.
The pricing for a 4 pack is under $3.50 a pen. i can't do anything with the gold trim version whatsoever. chrisrap52: Would you say this is as good or better than a Wing Sung 698? Also, How is the cleaning on the transparent feeds? Noodler's Black leaves that tinge on the feed no matter what i do. Is it just a case of picking non bulletproof inks in there?
chrisrap52 what ink would you recommend for fine or extra fine nibs that doesn't make a medium or broad line? My diamine majestic blue is hella wet, thickens the line and almost goes through the paper on every pen tested to varying degree.
Don't have a recommendation. Not something I have done. I have not noticed line spread as you do. Paper quality also a big factor. Don't use much Diamine so no reference there. I've heard that Noodler's X-Feather resists feathering that should be a trait to minimize line width.
I plan to get one of this. I got a Lanbitou 3059 which is also a piston filler. But the Fine nib ones burps every now and then. So I am wondering does this Wing Sung 3008 burps or gushes when the ink level gets low?
Burping may not be just due to the pen. Generally burping is from air pressure pushing ink out. Common when pens on a plane, lower pressure outside, higher inside, ink pushed our. One reason to store pens nib up. Heat can also cause higher pressure inside pen, maybe heat from your hand. Some pens like eye droppers & piston fill are more prone as ink & air is in contact with wall of barrel. Less ink means more air, air expands more so when ink low, more prone to burp. So far I have not seem my 3008 burp. But is is still full of ink.
I just ordered a replacement. I noticed that some of them now have a recurve plastic section and do not have the small, threaded metal ring. The clips are also different. I ordered one of those for comparison. Thanks for the reply.
The piston on the WS 698 seems to be better quality when compared to 3008 (rings seem to be thicker). The piston in my 3008 "leaks" and the ink manages to find its way past the rubber head up above. Is it possible to swap the piston from the WS698 to the 3008? I have a nice Lamy nib in it and is writing wet and smooth.
Another issue with the WS 3008 is the lack of the inner cap. Because of this, the screw head fixing the clip inside the plastic cap is quite often exposed to ink drops forming from the tip of the nib and the screw will start rusting fast. On the other hand the rust will contaminate the inside of the plastic cap. Either an inner lining cap or a stainless steel screw would be a simple fix. Perhaps in the next iteration of the 3008 model!
My experience after a few days, starts up OK. Depends on ink & conditions, dry & warm vs wet & cool. If you want a pen that does not dry out, look at a 618, hooded nib.
Seeing as this one doesn't have the same piston-lock mechanism as the 698 and 618, does it seems like the piston would be okay in a pocket or bag or would it have a chance or untwisting itself?
yah, i've gotten most the chinese pens you've reviewed, and have been pleased. i do wish we had a color choice tho (for demonstrators i prefer silver trim). i may wait a bit to see if that becomes an option or if other vendors pop up.
Found a sale for 4 silver trimmed clear caps in the 4 colors for $14. Search for "4pcs WINGSUNG 3008 Silver Fine Nib Piston Fill Fountain Pens Transparent Pen"...and yes, i really needed 4 more fountain pens :).
Save your money and buy the real thing. The 3008 is pure junk. It writes well for a while, then it starts falling apart, or just breaks. Even in China, you get what you pay for. You can get a good Jinhao, but you'll probably have to buy four to get one keeper. But at least the Jinhao is made from quality materials, and if you put a new nib, a high quality nib, on the one in four that's otherwise good, you have a sixty to eighty dollar pen for twenty-five bucks or so. And you may get lucky enough to get a Jinhao that already has an excellent steel nib. Wing Sung pens are all junk.
I have many Wing Sungs (618 & 695) that I've used for years & are reliable writers & look new. I've had good & not to good Jinhaos. We are have are experiences. Hopefully we find pens that make us happy. Celebrate that.
My favourite pen. I love how smoothly it writes, the large capacity of the reservoir and the weight of it in my hand.
I have 2 Wing Sung 3008 pens that I swapped to Lamy nibs.
One 1.1 and the other with a 1.5
I like writing with them both.
The screws inside the caps are both rusty and the clear plastic is very discolored. I had two more with fine and extra fine nibs which I gave away. They wrote well, I just don't like fine nibs.
They had the same rust on the cap screws.
They should use stainless steel screws in the cap and the pens would be near perfect.
I agree. Use a screw that doesn't rust. My 3008 with Lamy 1.1 writes great.
A very straightforward review. Thank you for not shoving your personality in the face of your audience like so many of the younger lot do. Enjoyed it. Subbed. Thank you.
Thank you. When I decided to do videos, it was about the pens, not me. I try to show the pens so you the viewer can decide.
I have a Wing Sung 618 (and watching your video helped me figure out the piston filling cap). I really ended up liking that 618 as well.
Chris. Stop making these videos. I've bought almost every pen you reviewed. Just ordered a pen case. Just realized how many pens I've ordered from watching your channel.
LOL..... If only I could.... Just think I have more pens than you do. & I am getting more. But enjoying even more. Life is goood.
another 'victim' here! ;-)
We need to form a support group. Lol my name is Rick I have a fountain pen addiction lol
just bought this yesterday, excited for when it arrives after seeing this review!
Thanks sir, got one now. It's an extremely useful pen for campus activities, I'm amazed. Been using it to travel many times too. There's no issue regarding the piston filling system or any leakage. I'm paying something cheap for tons of fun, I'm obviously satisfied with the money I used for a good functional pen. I don't have to waste 30$ for TWSBI pens for a workhorse pen considering the money I should use for other primary needs in campus. I'm satisfied with something cheap and useful. Keep making good review videos sir, your reviews are pretty detail compared to many other reviewers.
Neat to see the other stuff on your desk. I have this pen coming and the Prera copy. Got the pink like in your other video because I have some pink ink I want to use.
There is always a lot of stuff on my desk. For some reason I find it impossible to not keep putting stuff on it. Maybe too much stuff.... No, that's not it.
Yes the Chinese charactors do stand for Wing Sung and when pronounced in Chinese is "yourng sern" which translates to: "immortal life". Quite a dramatic name for a pen company, very much in line with the Hero pen company. Fine by me as long as they make good quailty pens.
Quite a name for a pen I've seen break so many times that there is no way to classify them except as pure junk.
Appreciate you sharing your experiences. We all have different ones. Celebrate what you love.
@@chrisrap52 positively cool you are
Just purchased 2 of this Wing Sung 3008, one for myself and the other to be a gift to an old friend that last used a fountain pen when he was in school back in the 70s. Attempting to get him back to use the ultimate writing instrument. BTW since posting your video, there are now several sellers that give buyers option of selecting colour combination of external clip to internal barrel. Example: Gold-Green, Gold-Blue, Silver-Silver, Silver-Purple....so on and so on, total of 8 different colour combinations, wonderful I reckon :-)
Yes, I ordered a blue one, clear cap. Prefer that to the colored cap.
Just received the 2 x Wing Sung 3008 pens today. Inked one in a new ink - Robert Oster "Khakhi". It writes just like you said in your video clip. Noticed that the price has come down since you and I bought ours. It now cost under AUS$4 free freight. The sellers have put in their notes that you can leave them a message about your preferred color, if not they will send by random.
I got 4 for $13 USD. Best pen for the money.
While I really only support the more original Chinese pen designs I am very much enjoying your reviews of the various offerings that come out of China and really looking forward to each new video you produce.
Chris you've done it again...the usual high standard review and temptation, temptation! If I may offer a suggestion about naming your WOW, now that you used WOW to the power of 2 (squared), maybe next level could be to the the power of 3(cube) and so on and so on...... :-)
Another pen I have coming via slow boat from China. Great review! Gives me an idea of what I can expect. Thanks again!
The clip seems to be a standard style used by Wing Sung. It's identical in shape to the one on my Wing Sung 6100 (except that the 6100's brightwork is "rose gold," except for the nib.)
Hope the boat has a tail wind. Lots of parts are shared. Enjoy your 3008.
@@chrisrap52 Think the wind was against the ship the whole way. Took 3 months to get here, even though the label says that it's air posted. Joys of the whole COVID 19 thing...
@@paulherman5822 Lack of flights. Packages sit in warehouses awaiting a plane. I have the same delays on all overseas shipments.
@@chrisrap52 Exactly. And since China Post things don't usually get tracked once they hit the United States, I've discovered that part of the hold up is with the USPS. I've had it take over a month to get to Michigan from San Francisco.
@@paulherman5822 Yes, SF is the worst. NYC takes about a week. I use Track17 that provides full tracking. I can see from start to delivery.
Great video - thank you for this! I'm very new to the whole fountain pen "thing" and I do love cheap, reliable fountain pens from eBay.
Your videos are really helpful in deciding what's good and what's dud.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
The piston mechanism does come off. The silver ring under the turning knob is threaded on to the barrel. Turn the piston about half way down the barrel and grip the silver band and unscrew,..pretty simple. These pens are fantastic! What I love about these over the TWSBI is that the feed/grip section is clear and you can see the ink through it so it has a much nicer look.
Yes, I eventually figured that out. These are great pens, great design & well made % & consistent writers..
I figured you probably did, however, I thought I would leave the comment for anyone else that might find the info helpful.
Thanks for the video, Chris. I just received mine. Very nice pen design, and about half the price of the WS 698. I really like the striated barrel feel. I don't like the blind cap. Locks differently from the WS 698 - this has a detent when you complete a fill. Even when locked, the blind cap still has some play. The 3008 also does not have the inner cap, so worried about nib drying. Worried that when securing the cap too tightly to avoid drying that the barrel will crack. That said, I love that you get a clear look at the nib when the pen is capped. Also, briefly tried with a Lamy nib (1.1mm stub) and works well. Very wet pen.
Thanks for your update.
It's a damn shame that these $15 Chinese pens, some even $5, $2, or $2 pens write and write well out of the box when Visconti pens that cost $700 to $1000+ write poorly or don't write at all.
I agree.
Most of my pens are the cheaper Chinese pens. I just picked up three of these at $2.55 each. After reading this review, I am blown away. I really only wanted to be able to ensure I had my favourite colours ready to go in a pen. I have a fetish of always having my black Noodler's Feather loaded for writing cheques but I love my turquoise, fushia, purple and a couple of other playful inks, loaded for fun use in my journal. Now I am really looking forward to getting this along with my Wing Sung 3013.
Bull. You've never even owned a Visconti. I've owned a dozen, and used another twenty or more, and every one of them wrote perfectly right out of the box.
But, yeah, WOW, this is a great pen, if you don't mind junk that's going to stop working or break if you us eit much at all.
Everyone has their experiences, my Visconti & others I seen didn't write. Good that you like them. We all have different likes. Our goal should be to find them.
@@jamesaritchie1 lol that's funny because all my Visconti's have been crap. So to diagraph. This pen however, I've had for years, use almost everyday and haven't had problem one out off it. If memory serves I paid $1.97 for them with free shipping.
BTW, Chinese pens aren't junk. When a manufacturer agrees to make products in China, in exchange for cheap labor they surrender all R&D to the Chinese. Any open manufacture who has ever manufactures in China has surrendered their molds, schematics, martials, etc etc etc. They aren't even knock-offs. They are there very exact same pen. There is no difference in a Parker pen manufactured in China and a wing sung, Jinhao, no name, etc.
You are owning these reviews on these new Wing Sungs. I like the idea of this one because nibs can be altered.
Does the piston knob feel secure? I read on the FPN that it there were concerns about the knob not being locked in place or possibly easy to turn in the pocket.
How would you rate this relative to the Wing sungs 618 and 698? Which one do you feel is the sturdiest? Are there any other pens like this I am late to discover as well? lol
Sorry to ask so many questions but there isn't that much on the FPN about these.
All of these 3 pens are sturdy. None have blind caps that turn easily. None are pocket pens in my view. Suggest a pocket pen like the Lecai. I believe in using a tool as it was designed. Interesting the focus on locked knobs. Do Pelikans or Montblancs have locks.?
I don't think so. I have a Pilot CH 92 (bad nib that needs work, and I dislike the balance of the heavy piston at the end of the barrel) that isn't even locked and neither is my TWSBI Eco (not very comfortable for longer writing sessions). My only concern was if the nob wiggled around loose, which might bring out my OCD side. I did end up ordering the 618 and 698 and I'll see if they will suffice, but to be able to get some dependable sturdy writers for this price may be hard to turn down (and even have to convert others to our addiction). I mean if the Lamy Safari or the Pilot MetroP and the other starter pens had a sections I preferred I'd use them every day. These wing sungs have a section I prefer and am considering using them as every-day-pens, especially if they have that same sturdy feel like the Lamy Safari or Pilot MetroP. I definitely want to give them a try, but as you can imagine it would be a bit of a surprise to have a $4.00 pen feel as sturdy as a Lamy Safari or Pilot MetroP or even a TWSBI 580. I'm not saying they're not, and maybe I am in for some WOW's myself : ). To me even my Pilot Prera has a cheaper feel than the Lamy Safary and Pilot MetroP, so it wouldn't be outlandish.
The focus on the knob was of interest in one of the FPN 3008 threads, which is why I ask. I mean, I'm listening and not just arguing as is evinced by my purchase of the 618. These Wow's have my attention and others' as well.
Each of us have personal preferences. With all the variety, it is great that we can find one we like. To me, I do not consider the Safari or Metro to feel sturdy. A 580 is sturdier. A lot is related to weight & balance.
And if you consider these sturdy, correct me if I'm wrong, but you consider these sturdier than than the Lamy Safari and Pilot MetroP?... Wow, ok.
Here's why I ask: www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/327877-the-wing-sung-3008-safety-issue-and-parts-compatibility/
Makes me think of a fusion between the twsbi diamond 580 al and a platinum cool.
sounds like a match made in heaven... I own both and love them to death. totally ordered one of these immediately after seeing this...
Well thanks to your video i have ordered one of these, like i need much encouragement!
Chris, enjoyed the video, and subscribed. I can't figure out what the "fully hooded " pen #4 was, which you chose as a daily writer?
That is a Wing Sung 698, The pen comes in many colors. Consistently good writers. I've done a few videos on them.
I love my Wing Sung too. What was the last pen with the hooded nib. It looks nice!!
WiNG Sung 618 - great pen.
@@chrisrap52 Thanks! Looks enticing :(
I just bought 4 Wing Sung 3008 pens!!
Thank you, Chris.
Thank u Chris. Just ordered this from eBay.
Loved the pen. Nib was smooth. My only gripe was sometimes the feed would deplete and i would have to prime. But that's easy with this pen. and sometimes it would start funny pending the angle of initiation, but that's just the xf nib I had. But!!! cleaning out inks on all the old pens I saw the feed of lamy safari was identical and almost so. Fit in perfectly. Now it has a lamy feed and lamy nib and I donno?, we'll see.
Yes, I've had the drying issue with some, not all, I think with some issues it's the ink. It is easy to reprime the feed with the piston. Let us know how the Lamy feed & feed work out.
So Chris. I noticed, and love by the way, the Lamy Safari feed, through the part where it sits, is full just all the time. I'm wondering if the 3008 feed taken out and micro sanded just a teeny hair, because I believe it was tighter to pull out and relatively easy to slide the Lamy feed in, it might do the trick to temper the reduction in flow. Maybe a taper with the wider end toward the nib so it sits tight still?
Increase width of feed channel. I've had some success with this approach.
I could not find the 3008 but I did fond the 3009. It slorts a hooded nib. I was impressed with the pen. It is a bit short and doesn't post well. There are two things i liked. The ring at the bottom of the barrel removes the piston! The other thing was the price - $3!
great review as always, keep up the good work.
In the color lottery, I ended up with a sold blue cap and gold clip and bands- not what I hoped for, but interesting
Just got one, what a bargain. Effectively a TWSBI at a small fraction of the price. Wing Sung Forever.
I bought a Wing Sung 698 after watching your review. I saw this review and bought a Wing Sung 3008. In both cases I had low expectations because my past experience of Chinese pens has been a bit hit and miss. I have to say I'm very pleasantly surprised; both of these pens feel well made and write quite well. I can't say that one is better than the other although at roughly one quarter of the price of the 698 the 3008 is better value, plus if you want to you can fit a Lamy Safari nib the 3008. And now I ask myself a question - "My Onoto is a truly fabulous pen and will no doubt last my lifetime, but is it really 200 times better than the Wing Sung?" - emotion says "yes", logic says "I don't know".
I say glass is half full. You have some great pens. Each with different attribures. Enjoy them.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Great review, thanks.
Chris, you suggest to flush a pen at least once a month. Yes, the ink seems to "gum up" after a couple weeks. Question: if the pen is full of ink, do you rinse out the old ink and refill, or do you keep the old ink and put it back in?? Thanks.....
I reuse the "old" ink, flush with "new" ink. The small amount in the pen will be diluted with the bottle ink. I guess I could discard the "old" ink but there is an irrational frugal side of me that can't do that.
Thank you, Brother......I'll start doing the same! I agree on the flushing once a month part......with 10+ pens filled it's hard to use up a full piston fill of ink within a month!
My Apache Sunset looks very different from how that ink is reading on my monitor (but my ink does look similar to the Apache Sunset samples I've seen on this same monitor).
haven't even received my 618 yet, but of course I've got to try this one too
Thanks for the Review. I've been meaning to get my hand on this one. On a different aspect, I notice you had a Pilot on your WS698, what Pilot Nibs are compatible?
Metroplitan, 78G, Plumix, Kakuno & probably others. I like the medium Kakuno stub & the BB 78G stub.
Just wanted to check if the $15 is a good sell for the 698. And it's not. Just received the 3008 recently and I like it quite a bit. EF nib with the wettest line I've seen.
Two different pens. For value I prefer 3008. For nib I prefer 698.
Good news: If you're fond of extra fine nibs, there are sellers who let you choose. You pay a bit more but you can choose.
What was the pen with the green ink? Thank you so much for your videos.
At 19:50 the pen writing with green ink with a hooded nib is a Wing Sung 618. See - th-cam.com/video/SETF4yFqsRs/w-d-xo.html
Closer examination of the logo under a loupe shows three concentric circles with a horizontal fountain pen across, which possibly could have the cap posted. What do you reckon?
Chris, I'd say the nib looks more like a Platinum style nib rather than a Lamy nib. Compare it to a Preppy nib if you get a chance. The Platinum Balance has a highly polished version of what looks about the same too.
Compared to Preppy nib, not exactly the same size. Design is same with wings. Wing Sung nib is a few millimeters longer.
chrisrap52 Thanks for this and all you review. I've ordered my pen.
Chris, is standard size cartridge fit in this?
This pen is a piston filler. Cannot use cartridges.
just got mine from the same ebay seller - there is some play in the piston knob, is that normal for this pen?
thanks for the Review. as far as these pistom wingsungs, which one did you have the best writing experience with? cheers.
618, smooth wet MF nib. Great balance & section.
Do you think the nib on this might be interchangable with something finer or wider? It seems it only comes as a 0.5mm, but Wing Sung has produced other Lamy-style nibs in the past, from what I've seen.
Yes, pen comes in one size nib. You can swap for any Lamy style nib like EF in 6359.
Hey Chris, if this and the irauta brass pen were the same price, which one would you recommend?
I'll choose brass any day.
Alright, thanks! There's a great deal on AliExpress for the brass pen, it's only $3.5 usd.
Great price.
When I order from China on eBay, I use Google Translate to write in Chinese and politely request a color choice instead of "random". I find that often, just because you took the time to write in Chinese and it's familiar, they will honor your color request.
Thanks. Good to know. I'll try it.
What red ink do you have in the TWSBI Eco? It looks amazing.
Iroshizuku momiji
The pricing for a 4 pack is under $3.50 a pen. i can't do anything with the gold trim version whatsoever. chrisrap52: Would you say this is as good or better than a Wing Sung 698? Also, How is the cleaning on the transparent feeds? Noodler's Black leaves that tinge on the feed no matter what i do. Is it just a case of picking non bulletproof inks in there?
Which was the last pen you wrote with?
I wrote The End with the 3008. Pen before that with a hooded nib is a 618. th-cam.com/video/9uWUwg-CDzY/w-d-xo.html
@@chrisrap52 Thanks man 😀
Can I replace the nib with a #5 standart nib?
No, it is a small Lamy style nib. Feed is designed for that nib not a standard No. 5.
Gotta love this pen too ... thanks so much for pen and ink reviews this one looks a far exactly like a twsbi ... wow is right
How fast does the ink dry or does it depend on the ink?
Ink, nib & paper all effect drying times.
what was that red ink again? the one on the twsbi?
iroshizuku - momiji
Halo, can the cap of 3008 be used by the 580? The cap of my 580 is broken.
No threads different. Contact TWSBI for a new cap.
Does the ink make a difference in the line width?
Yes. Ink flow = line width. More lubricated, greater flow, wider line.
chrisrap52 what ink would you recommend for fine or extra fine nibs that doesn't make a medium or broad line?
My diamine majestic blue is hella wet, thickens the line and almost goes through the paper on every pen tested to varying degree.
Don't have a recommendation. Not something I have done. I have not noticed line spread as you do. Paper quality also a big factor. Don't use much Diamine so no reference there. I've heard that Noodler's X-Feather resists feathering that should be a trait to minimize line width.
Thanks.
I plan to get one of this. I got a Lanbitou 3059 which is also a piston filler. But the Fine nib ones burps every now and then. So I am wondering does this Wing Sung 3008 burps or gushes when the ink level gets low?
Burping may not be just due to the pen. Generally burping is from air pressure pushing ink out. Common when pens on a plane, lower pressure outside, higher inside, ink pushed our. One reason to store pens nib up. Heat can also cause higher pressure inside pen, maybe heat from your hand. Some pens like eye droppers & piston fill are more prone as ink & air is in contact with wall of barrel. Less ink means more air, air expands more so when ink low, more prone to burp. So far I have not seem my 3008 burp. But is is still full of ink.
One of my 3008s developed small cracks under the metal band where the feed meets the section. Anyone else have this problem?
I checked my oldest, in use for over 6 months. No cracks. Used a light.
I just ordered a replacement. I noticed that some of them now have a recurve plastic section and do not have the small, threaded metal ring. The clips are also different. I ordered one of those for comparison. Thanks for the reply.
The piston on the WS 698 seems to be better quality when compared to 3008 (rings seem to be thicker). The piston in my 3008 "leaks" and the ink manages to find its way past the rubber head up above. Is it possible to swap the piston from the WS698 to the 3008? I have a nice Lamy nib in it and is writing wet and smooth.
My guess would be pistons not swappable. Have you greased the piston? If found that may help.
Another issue with the WS 3008 is the lack of the inner cap. Because of this, the screw head fixing the clip inside the plastic cap is quite often exposed to ink drops forming from the tip of the nib and the screw will start rusting fast. On the other hand the rust will contaminate the inside of the plastic cap. Either an inner lining cap or a stainless steel screw would be a simple fix. Perhaps in the next iteration of the 3008 model!
Incredible that you can now buy 4 of these for $10 on eBay!
Great buy.
Hello.... If you cap this pen and not use it for a few days, will it start right away? Or will it dry out and be hard to start?
My experience after a few days, starts up OK. Depends on ink & conditions, dry & warm vs wet & cool. If you want a pen that does not dry out, look at a 618, hooded nib.
Seeing as this one doesn't have the same piston-lock mechanism as the 698 and 618, does it seems like the piston would be okay in a pocket or bag or would it have a chance or untwisting itself?
I wouldn't put in a pocket. It could turn. The velvet pouch could protect it from turning. There are many great pocket pens I would use.
I'm almost dead certain lamy makes no components in China. I am fairly confident pilot sold them some toolings though
I recently bought a pack of these pens. I use them right beside my TWSBI ECOs . I am very impressed with them.
Dang it.. now I want this one too. lol .. and the other one with the Pilot nib... and that third one, the 618.
My work is done...
Dang...here comes another ebay order ;^).
I only lead you to the pen. From my view, mission accomplished. You will not be disappointed.
yah, i've gotten most the chinese pens you've reviewed, and have been pleased. i do wish we had a color choice tho (for demonstrators i prefer silver trim). i may wait a bit to see if that becomes an option or if other vendors pop up.
Most do have a silver trim model. I also prefer that.
Found a sale for 4 silver trimmed clear caps in the 4 colors for $14.
Search for "4pcs WINGSUNG 3008 Silver Fine Nib Piston Fill Fountain Pens Transparent Pen"...and yes, i really needed 4 more fountain pens :).
Thanks. Interesting seller. I have ordered 4pcs LANBITOU 3059 from them.
Ppl can still get your address from the tracking number and zip code
Thanks for the heads up. I stopped trying to hide that. I do a half-hearted effort. Anyone who wants to contact me can. The Internet has no secrets.
You can see how to take it apart at th-cam.com/video/H0xZpIC8pbQ/w-d-xo.html
Great video. Pen is easy to disassemble. Was nice to see.
Save your money and buy the real thing. The 3008 is pure junk. It writes well for a while, then it starts falling apart, or just breaks. Even in China, you get what you pay for. You can get a good Jinhao, but you'll probably have to buy four to get one keeper.
But at least the Jinhao is made from quality materials, and if you put a new nib, a high quality nib, on the one in four that's otherwise good, you have a sixty to eighty dollar pen for twenty-five bucks or so. And you may get lucky enough to get a Jinhao that already has an excellent steel nib.
Wing Sung pens are all junk.
I have many Wing Sungs (618 & 695) that I've used for years & are reliable writers & look new. I've had good & not to good Jinhaos. We are have are experiences. Hopefully we find pens that make us happy. Celebrate that.