Hey from the road! I'm out on tour with the Most Extras. Wanted to say thanks for watching! This is a good one. Also - some very fun stuff coming up on the patreon - hope to see some of you there ... patreon.com/everybodylovestom
Tom what a great show this is congratulations. Also I think you should take Jacks advice and no longer talk about your breakup after January 1. Your punishment has lasted long enough.
What's odd is taht Tom doesn't ever sound like he fully understands how devastating it is to betray your partner. He always sounds like he's not really getting it. SAD.
As someone who spent 8 years in the teams it was such a joy to watch you guys pushing through all of this. No one really understands until they get a little taste. Happy to see you doing better :)
Yo Jack is the fucking man! As an elder millennial, I've loved him, Kelly, Ozzy, and Sharon for forever. He's a superstar in his own right. I was kinda surprised to see him in the chair today, but I haven't seen that special forces show yet so I didn't remember that he'd be on there with you. This was a great episode! I'm doing a sober cheers with ya 🥂 got a couple years under my belt now.. and it didn't even dawn on my until this episode that it's been 20 years for Jack! Again, he's the man 🖤
Jack was an amazing guest! I remember watching the Osbournes as a teen and I can't believe how well adjusted he turned out (no offense). That could not have been easy with all the other avenues he could have gone down. Hats off to Jack. Such an eloquent and down-to-earth dude.
I love watching Jack in pretty much everything I see him in. He seems like such a genuine person. Especially considered he was raised in Hollywood. His parents did an amazing job with their kids!
Awesome podcast!! How bout jojo next! I'm so excited to hear more from u. U were incredible on special forces. I loved u an jack together!! So happy to c u thrive again tom.. u r a great person.
Wow. I remember the phenomenon that was The Osbournes. I was in middle school when it started and i use to watch it with my mom! It was the only mtv she ever watched but we faithfully watched weekly. My mom and i related to, as shed say, "another disfunctional family" Great episode!
I feel like I haven't seen Jack Osbourne since The Osbournes!!?? That show was an AMAZING experience. No script needed; the OG's of reality & MTV--Respect💯 Adding The Challenge to my list
I should watch it when this next season comes out. But I. I'm going to have a hard time with it because of the way the others treat and treat Requel. But if I. Honest, if it's just support Tom in it, then I will. So, thanks for posting this comment. Can't stand the rest of the cast, but Schwartz. So Tom and Tom. I'm here for it.
Jack, Tom I’m happy to see y’all together! Love the show Special Forces. I felt for you in the frigid cold! Jack is of course a beautiful person. Jack I have an Autoimmune disease. Watching you both making me happy! ❤🎉
Wow you two are doing great on it!!! Seriously couldn’t even imagine some of those tasks, like most people would not be able to get up for those push ups with the backpack. Fun to watch! Jack looks great 👍
Tom is still struggling to understand how his infidelity is different from the situations that other cast mates were in. It’s not just about it being Tom 😒. Jerry O’Connell started to get at it last episode, but the most important thing to understand is that the affair was with someone who was part of the social group! And who Ariana was clearly connected to and often supported (even off camera). It’s a deeper betrayal. And the hidden off camera behavior made it so much more deceitful and hurtful.
Kristen was not Ariana’s friend. Tom and Kristen were not in a long-term, adult relationship. Hope that Tom can stop comparing this situation to others. We can get over it, but it would be helpful for him to recognize this.
Wasn’t Tom and James friends when he cheated with Kristen? That entire group of friends are all around messy. No one is in there 20’s here anymore…time to move on and understand life happens but none of this happened to you personally (the viewer).
Jack is a standup guy! Tom: Get your house sold - either pay her out or she pays you out - or sell the house! Once that is done - everything else will fall into place - as soon as I win the lottery - I’m going to get this done for you - I am sick of hearing about this and you guys need to move on.
Did it ever occur to you people maybe them living together is just helping them both out? You can have an opinion but they have a plan to completely separate for good and have no remorse once it's done! Just leave their business their business! In due time they'll close this chapter!
@@coffeecake1803 when it comes to timely matters like putting the house up for sale or whatever they choose to do to finally go separately for good they'll have that conversation. It's Inevitable!
I love the old MTV memories you guys are bringing out! Great show once again. love the content. Would love to have your childhood friends come on or your family and see more of the Tom they all know and love
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this ep! Jack said exactly what everyone was sayin! Glass houses..dude! You know what I'm sayin! Keep doing this podcast, cause everyone does love Tom...and if they don't, fuck em! You take the high road here on out and be the best you! Love Special Forces! Been interesting for sure! Can't wait to see where it takes y'all! P.s. can you come up with a mocktail for Thanksgiving! I'm flying out to my hometown in MI (and yes, I am friend's with one of Kristen's cousins, but they don't talk). I want to partake in Turkey Day and don't have a kitchen in my hotel. lol.
Cant wait for the next special forces episode love hearing the behind the scenes! Loved it when you immediately jumped out of the car felt like an action movie and your hair looked amazing i was wondering how you braided it lol thanks JoJo! Keep kicking ass Tom lots of love from St. Louis💗💗💗
Hey in Special Forces they made u fight twice and no brake. You were just done with a good exchange and then they gave u Jack. To me, U WON, cause you were still standing and never gave up. You go macho man😊
Tom, I like you, and I like your podcast. I experienced what you did on 1/1000000th of the scale. It was traumatizing. I'm sorry that the world projected something onto you that you didn't deserve. Glad to hear you say you had people supporting you despite any kind of backlash. Good luck.
A little hint you ask Jack a question about what got him sober, you cut them off maybe two times so we didn't get to hear the rest. Other than that great
I’m sorry, I missed the part where Kristen and Tom had released a book, bought a house, supported each other through opening a bar, starting a band, etc?? I’m so confused! Could someone fill me in on all the ways Kristen and Tom were entangled in life? Not to mention, Kristen and Tom BOTH cheated on each other. If anything, Kristen did worse for cheating with Jax but Tom kissed ariana, someone not in their group AFTER Kristen slept with jax in their apartment.. like, I don’t blame Tom for looking elsewhere in that case.. but ariana never did any of that to him and their partnership was way more involved so it’s majorly different. Anyone who doesn’t get that is an idiot, I’m sorry. 🤷🏼♀️ Also, the settling into being unhappy thing is cheap.. this man is now sober. So it wasn’t just his relationship that was unhealthy or making him unhappy, he was loving an unhealthy life and was often not in a clear state of mind. Ariana was not the one going out and drinking like him and encouraging that bad behavior so how is it “well I’m just unhappy in this relationship, guess I’ll settle in” if his life choices over all we’re needing a change and he can admit that? I’m in a ten year relationship, we’ve each had years where we’ve fucked up or been completely unhappy and yet, we pulled though and have been happier each year because most of it was to do with our own behaviours and making ourselves happy & healthy. It seems like Tom never really tried to be a good partner or even make himself happier/healthier while he was in the relationship. The only thing he worked at was partying and holding attention in the party/reality tv scene. Sounds like if anything, he saw their relationship like a brand and ariana was no longer fitting the brand he wanted to sell to the public as the fun party couple. He took that and settled into “it’s bad and that’s it” but he never seemed to change any of his unhealthy behavior or put in quality time or therapy like she was asking. Things like that actually change your relationship and your dynamic. From what I saw and we’re hearing, he refused to even try to connect to Ariana anymore and instead, he started connecting with Rachel. I just don’t like this narrative that their relationship was so bad and couldn’t have gotten better when clearly he hadn’t actually tried to make it better which is an entirely different story so just say that 🤷🏼♀️ His efforts were elsewhere, until he can face that, he’ll always be a bad partner and lost in his own selfishness. It is what it is but the lack of awareness makes it clear that his emotional intelligence is still just so behind. I hope that changes but that’s what I see as someone in a long term relationship who’s had to work to make it stick.
@@theafrobeatnik there wasn’t a single demand in my comment. You’re invested enough to engage in reading & critiquing the discourse around it so what does that say about you? Lol get off TH-cam if it bothers you. You’re not going to change anything anyone says or does by a self righteous comment that aims at propping yourself higher than some “other” group of fans you’ve deemed less than.. the simple fact is, we’re commenting on the same video and you only watched this because you watch a show that follows the drama of strangers & you’re interested in the stories of those strangers. If not, it’s weirder that you would even be here at all. And to piggy back on that, if you follow bravo and remotely respect their success as a network and with this show you clearly like, then you have to acknowledge that the fandom, discourse, and media surrounding bravo and breaking it down is at least half of what makes it extremely popular and good at creating true fans.. but I’m sure you’re smart enough to know all this, you just wanted to get on your high horse for a sec 😁😜 lashing out private citizens you’ll never know a thing about or ever truly affect is all ego, either that or you’re just a crazy Tom fan who doesn’t want to hear any opinions against what he did.. and that’s arguable worse 🤣
My question is... The issues Ariana had from her ex before Tom that she talked about with Lala made me wonder how she thought anyone would put up with what she could give in a relationship.. Quite simply anyone who truly cares about you wants you to be happy..You definitely were not compatible with Ariana. Ending it with her was right just should have been done sooner...Laughable seeing her in her revenge dress..
He did not end it with her. She ended it with him after finding his unconsenting video because he was chicken shit and would rather traumatize women further than man up.
@@leenab9497 also, I think it’s pretty obvious why ariana was mad. She was cheated on, found out in a horrible way, and had to rearrange her entire life because of it. You’re an idiot if you think you’re in on something that nobody else knows. Yeah, she was mad. It has less to do with Rachel than you think though.. more to do with, ya know, her partner of 9 years who she owns a house with and supported whole he opened businesses, etc.
I had a Dr give me oxycontin at 23 and that started my heroin fentanyl addiction. When the Dr got busted for being a candy man I want to the street. I went from never even smoking weed to a oxy addiction to a heroin addiction at 23 from a Dr I trusted who gave me oxys and told me they weren't addictive like Percocet. I was so young & naive this Dr was seeing patients for cash up until 10pm at night the wait would be 4 to 5hrs u could sign in n leave. They took his license he ran back to his country I'm pretty sure he still has warrants here
Okay now you're preaching no drugs after you or in length talkin about doing shrooms til the sun comes up. Tuned in for Jack Osbourne he's a legend. To be fair if he's sober You're sober whatever tum I'm happy for you congrats. It's been 40 years for me. I just wish you would get authentic.
Hey tom! 😊 I hope you are doing swell. I've been watching you for a loooong time. I feel like I know you.. and I am proud of your strength thru all of this. Everyone wants you to apologize when I feel you have done that and some. . I feel like you and Ariana are family thanks to brovo but I also feel like not enough has been shown in your real lives between you two. No one knows what happened between you Ariana and Rachel and to me it's no one's business but you three. It has nothing to do with ANYONE ELSE. I have been in similar situations and people can say all they want about cheating but that's why Jerry Springer was made..lbvvs... I'm sure a lot of people who are judging you could make a whole Jerry show.... Anyways what I'm trying to say is I think you should draw a line and not pour your feelings and make people feel better for things that had nothing to do with anyone but you Ariana and Rachel. You've paid your dues if I'm concerned. You're only human and you made a human mistake and even though it's not my business I feel like you no longer need to live over that shadow. Ps. I hope I'm not stepping out of line here but Jojo is an uneducated child who might make more money than me but she knows nothing about real life. She is just another distraction to what's happening in the real world.
I'm still completely baffled as to why so much attention was given to an extra marital affair. I think the punishment and public scrutiny inflicted upon Tom was completely out of proportion. I believe the pendulum is beginning to swing the other way. Society loves to tear you down, but they eventually get tired of inflicting pain. (CNN covered this story. Crazy!)
This convo on MTV does make me wonder if the reason modern pop music is so horrible is because there is no mainstream curator, like MTV, to signal boost emerging indie artists. So all that's left is hyperproduced lowest common denominator crappy hip hop. I only find new music through my yoga class, music festivals, social media algorithms, and who the artists I follow listen to. Anywho. Another engaging discussion Tom!
I would normally agree with Jack aobut talking about it, but don't set parameters yet, as A) its an on going drama B) It's the reason most are tuning in its the elephant in the room C) The show will rely on it as well....and its a storyline its part of your life, its RELEVANT, and yeah no don't be a martyr. Ain't nobody checking for a martyr. lean on your gifts.
If Ariana had been carrying on with Schwartz for 7 months she would have received the same shock and wrath. This is Tom and Raquel's backlash and scarlet letter. Repent and own it like Jack says. Radical ownership and keep trying to be a better person.
Oh, my gosh. This has gone on for months and months and months. I’m sick to death of hearing about it and I’m not going to watch VPR this season because every episode is going to be dragging it out for another year plus a reunion. I stopped listening to any other VPR casts’ podcast back in March and unsubscribed because everyone has beat it to DEATH. Enough already. Tom, concentrate on what is going on in your guests’ lives, their history, where your band has been, etc. and stop with the endless apologies. How are the bars doing? What’s Schwartz up to? Please, please, please, no more talk about Scandoval or I will stop watching this podcast, too. Today’s episode was so interesting. I’d be interesting in hear ing from some of the husbands and boyfriends of Real Housewives. Also, how about interviewing cast members who left the show or were fired and how it affected their lives good or bad. LuAnn from the old version of RHONY. SHE WAS JUST ON A BRAVO SHOW, CRAPPIE LAKE, plus she has a cabaret show.
My disgust out of the whole Tom and Ariana, whoops sorry I f’d up, scandal was the cast, previous cast and every other snake that came out of the woodwork capitalizing on another’s heartbreak. People boycotting that don’t even know Tom. Grow up people, it’s called life. Sorry Tom, I won’t be watching VR not because of you, I can’t even look at the others
Hey from the road! I'm out on tour with the Most Extras. Wanted to say thanks for watching! This is a good one. Also - some very fun stuff coming up on the patreon - hope to see some of you there ... patreon.com/everybodylovestom
So happy to see you doing you, moving on and looking happy. Love it. So proud of you
Jack Osbourne is so genuine and open, and just has the greatest energy about him. I love all the Osbourne’s, I think they’re great people.❤
Tom what a great show this is congratulations. Also I think you should take Jacks advice and no longer talk about your breakup after January 1. Your punishment has lasted long enough.
Yes Enough geez
Even sooner than January...
Agreed I’m bored and Ariana has gained much success and Tom has gained much punishment
What's odd is taht Tom doesn't ever sound like he fully understands how devastating it is to betray your partner. He always sounds like he's not really getting it. SAD.
They're were not partners in real life. Don't take reality tv seriously.
I love jack! He didn't let money and fame get to his head!
I love Jack Osborn. Recovery talk is good talk.
Love Jack. That should be the name of the show
❤❤❤
Team Tom Tom all the way baby!😊
As someone who spent 8 years in the teams it was such a joy to watch you guys pushing through all of this. No one really understands until they get a little taste. Happy to see you doing better :)
Yes, no more about the break up, it’s time for people to forgive you and let it go
Yo Jack is the fucking man! As an elder millennial, I've loved him, Kelly, Ozzy, and Sharon for forever. He's a superstar in his own right. I was kinda surprised to see him in the chair today, but I haven't seen that special forces show yet so I didn't remember that he'd be on there with you. This was a great episode! I'm doing a sober cheers with ya 🥂 got a couple years under my belt now.. and it didn't even dawn on my until this episode that it's been 20 years for Jack! Again, he's the man 🖤
All 3 podcast i have instantly rewstched again..luv it
I agree with Jack on setting a date to quit talking about it. Enough is enough. Not much more can be said...
Awesome show ❤
Jack was an amazing guest! I remember watching the Osbournes as a teen and I can't believe how well adjusted he turned out (no offense). That could not have been easy with all the other avenues he could have gone down. Hats off to Jack. Such an eloquent and down-to-earth dude.
I love Jack. Great show!
Good episode. Love Jack Osbourne.
Tom, blessing in disguise......
Fantastic interview. Love this channel ✌🏼
Great interviewing Tom
Tom, I have the matching leaf champagne glasses that I inherited when my parents passed away! You have great taste and this was another awesome show.
What’s good Tom Sandoval🤙🏻 watching and supporting from Santa Cruz California.
I love watching Jack in pretty much everything I see him in. He seems like such a genuine person. Especially considered he was raised in Hollywood. His parents did an amazing job with their kids!
I am tom Sandovals number 1 supporter ❤❤❤
What a great guest....little ozzy...love Jack
Awesome podcast!! How bout jojo next! I'm so excited to hear more from u. U were incredible on special forces. I loved u an jack together!! So happy to c u thrive again tom.. u r a great person.
Completely enjoying your podcasts Tom!
I want more! This was a short pod! Love u tom so proud of u. Jack was a great guest. I like to hear about the behind the scenes of reality shows.
Some great episodes coming up soon! Thanks so much for watching.
Hi Tom, i’m listening to your podcast, thanks for sharing with us. I wish you much success!! ❤️
I just got done watching episode 3. I started watching because of you and Savannah chrisley. Love you both. Stay strong
The best episode so far!
Oh great show!Jack is awesome!much love!!!🤗💕🙏
Tom you are looking so good! You just look different. Sobriety looks good on you!
Pimp my ride,
The Osbourns, I literally bought the DVD’s of that show just last year and I’m over 70 lol Classic
kool podcasts, glad ur here tom.....
Wow. I remember the phenomenon that was The Osbournes. I was in middle school when it started and i use to watch it with my mom! It was the only mtv she ever watched but we faithfully watched weekly. My mom and i related to, as shed say, "another disfunctional family"
Great episode!
Love seeing Jack...I watched his family grow up...yes Sharon and Ozzie too LOL
Jack Osbourne always has such a good vibe love to you Jack
@tomsandoval1, you watch the challenge? You redeemed yourself a *little* bit with that😂 thats my fave show!!! see you Sunday!
Guess I won't be seeing you Sunday as the show was just postponed. Ugh!
I feel like I haven't seen Jack Osbourne since The Osbournes!!??
That show was an AMAZING experience. No script needed; the OG's of reality & MTV--Respect💯
Adding The Challenge to my list
When Jack Osbourne is the voice of reason…
I only watched the show cause you were on and I am really enjoying the show it’s really good. It reminds you that we are stronger than we think.
I should watch it when this next season comes out. But I. I'm going to have a hard time with it because of the way the others treat and treat Requel. But if I. Honest, if it's just support Tom in it, then I will. So, thanks for posting this comment. Can't stand the rest of the cast, but Schwartz. So Tom and Tom. I'm here for it.
Jack, Tom
I’m happy to see y’all together! Love the show Special Forces. I felt for you in the frigid cold!
Jack is of course a beautiful person. Jack I have an Autoimmune disease. Watching you both making me happy! ❤🎉
Wow you two are doing great on it!!! Seriously couldn’t even imagine some of those tasks, like most people would not be able to get up for those push ups with the backpack. Fun to watch! Jack looks great 👍
Tom is still struggling to understand how his infidelity is different from the situations that other cast mates were in. It’s not just about it being Tom 😒. Jerry O’Connell started to get at it last episode, but the most important thing to understand is that the affair was with someone who was part of the social group! And who Ariana was clearly connected to and often supported (even off camera). It’s a deeper betrayal. And the hidden off camera behavior made it so much more deceitful and hurtful.
@@leenab9497 not the same. Apples to oranges. Cheating is wrong but this was double deception and betrayal to cheat for months with a close friend.
@@leenab9497🎯
Kristen was not Ariana’s friend. Tom and Kristen were not in a long-term, adult relationship. Hope that Tom can stop comparing this situation to others. We can get over it, but it would be helpful for him to recognize this.
Please I beg you to get rid of computer guy! He answers things he shouldn’t
Wasn’t Tom and James friends when he cheated with Kristen? That entire group of friends are all around messy. No one is in there 20’s here anymore…time to move on and understand life happens but none of this happened to you personally (the viewer).
Jack is a standup guy!
Tom:
Get your house sold - either pay her out or she pays you out - or sell the house! Once that is done - everything else will fall into place - as soon as I win the lottery - I’m going to get this done for you - I am sick of hearing about this and you guys need to move on.
It’s beyond weird and annoying those two still live together. Maybe they still love each other. I honestly think that’s what it is.
@@asmrcat5130and you are flat out wrong! It seems you don’t pay attention to what is said.
Did it ever occur to you people maybe them living together is just helping them both out? You can have an opinion but they have a plan to completely separate for good and have no remorse once it's done! Just leave their business their business! In due time they'll close this chapter!
@@dinajacobs535 they didn’t have a plan - they are not speaking - you want to live like that between now and dead 🤷🏼♀️ - I doubt it
@@coffeecake1803 when it comes to timely matters like putting the house up for sale or whatever they choose to do to finally go separately for good they'll have that conversation. It's Inevitable!
Congratulations Tom on everything. You absolutely deserve the best. ❤
I love the old MTV memories you guys are bringing out! Great show once again. love the content. Would love to have your childhood friends come on or your family and see more of the Tom they all know and love
Jack Osbourne, just falling for all of it!
The way he said friend is like he can't even commit to the word lol
Loved it bro!
Is jack in marketing?? Cuz he’s got great ideas 💡 👏👏
Another great show! Thanks Tom!
Unplugged was fantastic❤
"GOOD TIME TO BE SOBER" - T SHIRT TOM - GET ON IT !!! MERCH BRO!!!
I like your new friends and the old that have stuck by you and proven they are your true friends.
Another cool podcast, Jack is so nice... Regards🥰
Congratulations on both of you, I know it can be difficult to stop drinking.
⚡️🐾BRO iT WAS A HONOR MEETiNG YOU N JASON AT THE SHOW iN SANFORD! ⚡️🐾
Jack looks so handsome 🔥🔥🔥🥰
Great show Tom!
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this ep! Jack said exactly what everyone was sayin! Glass houses..dude! You know what I'm sayin! Keep doing this podcast, cause everyone does love Tom...and if they don't, fuck em! You take the high road here on out and be the best you! Love Special Forces! Been interesting for sure! Can't wait to see where it takes y'all! P.s. can you come up with a mocktail for Thanksgiving! I'm flying out to my hometown in MI (and yes, I am friend's with one of Kristen's cousins, but they don't talk). I want to partake in Turkey Day and don't have a kitchen in my hotel. lol.
Another great episode! Looking forward to the next one! #everybodylovestom ~ Kasha & Bill
Cant wait for the next special forces episode love hearing the behind the scenes! Loved it when you immediately jumped out of the car felt like an action movie and your hair looked amazing i was wondering how you braided it lol thanks JoJo! Keep kicking ass Tom lots of love from St. Louis💗💗💗
Hey in Special Forces they made u fight twice and no brake. You were just done with a good exchange and then they gave u Jack. To me, U WON, cause you were still standing and never gave up. You go macho man😊
Tom, I like you, and I like your podcast. I experienced what you did on 1/1000000th of the scale. It was traumatizing. I'm sorry that the world projected something onto you that you didn't deserve. Glad to hear you say you had people supporting you despite any kind of backlash. Good luck.
I love Tom. One thing I would like to see is Tom be a little more apologetic and emphatic to Racquel as well.
See you bright and early!🎉
Luv this❤
A little hint you ask Jack a question about what got him sober, you cut them off maybe two times so we didn't get to hear the rest. Other than that great
Team Tom all the way absolutely feel for you rise up out of this and be victorious love your show never give up
Love me some Jack!!😘💖💖💖
TOM YOU NEED TO HAVE MICHAEL RAPPAPORT (sic) ON YOUR SHOW !! LISTEN TO HIM ON THE PODCAST BEHIND THE VELVET ROPE AND YOU WILL SEE WHY !!!! DO IT !!!
It's weird for me wit Michael R, I hate him but then I watch him then I love him. He's hilarious
Keep up the good work
I love Jack Osbourne !!!
I’m sorry, I missed the part where Kristen and Tom had released a book, bought a house, supported each other through opening a bar, starting a band, etc?? I’m so confused! Could someone fill me in on all the ways Kristen and Tom were entangled in life? Not to mention, Kristen and Tom BOTH cheated on each other. If anything, Kristen did worse for cheating with Jax but Tom kissed ariana, someone not in their group AFTER Kristen slept with jax in their apartment.. like, I don’t blame Tom for looking elsewhere in that case.. but ariana never did any of that to him and their partnership was way more involved so it’s majorly different. Anyone who doesn’t get that is an idiot, I’m sorry. 🤷🏼♀️
Also, the settling into being unhappy thing is cheap.. this man is now sober. So it wasn’t just his relationship that was unhealthy or making him unhappy, he was loving an unhealthy life and was often not in a clear state of mind. Ariana was not the one going out and drinking like him and encouraging that bad behavior so how is it “well I’m just unhappy in this relationship, guess I’ll settle in” if his life choices over all we’re needing a change and he can admit that? I’m in a ten year relationship, we’ve each had years where we’ve fucked up or been completely unhappy and yet, we pulled though and have been happier each year because most of it was to do with our own behaviours and making ourselves happy & healthy. It seems like Tom never really tried to be a good partner or even make himself happier/healthier while he was in the relationship. The only thing he worked at was partying and holding attention in the party/reality tv scene. Sounds like if anything, he saw their relationship like a brand and ariana was no longer fitting the brand he wanted to sell to the public as the fun party couple. He took that and settled into “it’s bad and that’s it” but he never seemed to change any of his unhealthy behavior or put in quality time or therapy like she was asking. Things like that actually change your relationship and your dynamic. From what I saw and we’re hearing, he refused to even try to connect to Ariana anymore and instead, he started connecting with Rachel. I just don’t like this narrative that their relationship was so bad and couldn’t have gotten better when clearly he hadn’t actually tried to make it better which is an entirely different story so just say that 🤷🏼♀️ His efforts were elsewhere, until he can face that, he’ll always be a bad partner and lost in his own selfishness. It is what it is but the lack of awareness makes it clear that his emotional intelligence is still just so behind. I hope that changes but that’s what I see as someone in a long term relationship who’s had to work to make it stick.
Huh? SMH🤔
Some of y’all are way too invested with way too many demands. Turn off the tv if you get to this point. Life happens
@@theafrobeatnik there wasn’t a single demand in my comment. You’re invested enough to engage in reading & critiquing the discourse around it so what does that say about you? Lol get off TH-cam if it bothers you. You’re not going to change anything anyone says or does by a self righteous comment that aims at propping yourself higher than some “other” group of fans you’ve deemed less than.. the simple fact is, we’re commenting on the same video and you only watched this because you watch a show that follows the drama of strangers & you’re interested in the stories of those strangers. If not, it’s weirder that you would even be here at all. And to piggy back on that, if you follow bravo and remotely respect their success as a network and with this show you clearly like, then you have to acknowledge that the fandom, discourse, and media surrounding bravo and breaking it down is at least half of what makes it extremely popular and good at creating true fans.. but I’m sure you’re smart enough to know all this, you just wanted to get on your high horse for a sec 😁😜 lashing out private citizens you’ll never know a thing about or ever truly affect is all ego, either that or you’re just a crazy Tom fan who doesn’t want to hear any opinions against what he did.. and that’s arguable worse 🤣
My question is... The issues Ariana had from her ex before Tom that she talked about with Lala made me wonder how she thought anyone would put up with what she could give in a relationship.. Quite simply anyone who truly cares about you wants you to be happy..You definitely were not compatible with Ariana. Ending it with her was right just should have been done sooner...Laughable seeing her in her revenge dress..
He did not end it with her. She ended it with him after finding his unconsenting video because he was chicken shit and would rather traumatize women further than man up.
@@leenab9497 he didn’t want to be with Rachel either lol.. or he would be.
@@leenab9497 also, I think it’s pretty obvious why ariana was mad. She was cheated on, found out in a horrible way, and had to rearrange her entire life because of it. You’re an idiot if you think you’re in on something that nobody else knows. Yeah, she was mad. It has less to do with Rachel than you think though.. more to do with, ya know, her partner of 9 years who she owns a house with and supported whole he opened businesses, etc.
@@leenab9497 same to you. Sorry you’re mad that you said some dumbass obvious shit 🤣🤣
I had a Dr give me oxycontin at 23 and that started my heroin fentanyl addiction. When the Dr got busted for being a candy man I want to the street. I went from never even smoking weed to a oxy addiction to a heroin addiction at 23 from a Dr I trusted who gave me oxys and told me they weren't addictive like Percocet. I was so young & naive this Dr was seeing patients for cash up until 10pm at night the wait would be 4 to 5hrs u could sign in n leave. They took his license he ran back to his country I'm pretty sure he still has warrants here
Okay now you're preaching no drugs after you or in length talkin about doing shrooms til the sun comes up. Tuned in for Jack Osbourne he's a legend. To be fair if he's sober You're sober whatever tum I'm happy for you congrats. It's been 40 years for me. I just wish you would get authentic.
Hey tom! 😊 I hope you are doing swell. I've been watching you for a loooong time. I feel like I know you.. and I am proud of your strength thru all of this. Everyone wants you to apologize when I feel you have done that and some. . I feel like you and Ariana are family thanks to brovo but I also feel like not enough has been shown in your real lives between you two. No one knows what happened between you Ariana and Rachel and to me it's no one's business but you three. It has nothing to do with ANYONE ELSE. I have been in similar situations and people can say all they want about cheating but that's why Jerry Springer was made..lbvvs... I'm sure a lot of people who are judging you could make a whole Jerry show.... Anyways what I'm trying to say is I think you should draw a line and not pour your feelings and make people feel better for things that had nothing to do with anyone but you Ariana and Rachel. You've paid your dues if I'm concerned. You're only human and you made a human mistake and even though it's not my business I feel like you no longer need to live over that shadow.
Ps. I hope I'm not stepping out of line here but Jojo is an uneducated child who might make more money than me but she knows nothing about real life. She is just another distraction to what's happening in the real world.
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Why was the interview so short I love jack!
Jack is awesome
I'm still completely baffled as to why so much attention was given to an extra marital affair. I think the punishment and public scrutiny inflicted upon Tom was completely out of proportion. I believe the pendulum is beginning to swing the other way. Society loves to tear you down, but they eventually get tired of inflicting pain. (CNN covered this story. Crazy!)
Jack looks great
Oh I liked this one! Jack is bomb 💣 good job guys! Too many more f@ck ups!
This convo on MTV does make me wonder if the reason modern pop music is so horrible is because there is no mainstream curator, like MTV, to signal boost emerging indie artists. So all that's left is hyperproduced lowest common denominator crappy hip hop. I only find new music through my yoga class, music festivals, social media algorithms, and who the artists I follow listen to. Anywho. Another engaging discussion Tom!
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You need background music. It’s too quiet sometimes.
Don't buy a house together FGS...take time to make choices ya know...pros and cons.
Love you Tom !
Come to Branson Missouri!!!
Nice mocktails, but I can't with the nails. So extra. I like Jack. He's a real one.
I think Sandoval should find a new sidekick. No they didn't do same thing. Kristen and Jax did not carry on a full relationship for months.
Bad things do bring out better things/lifestyle changes.
I would normally agree with Jack aobut talking about it, but don't set parameters yet, as A) its an on going drama B) It's the reason most are tuning in its the elephant in the room C) The show will rely on it as well....and its a storyline its part of your life, its RELEVANT, and yeah no don't be a martyr. Ain't nobody checking for a martyr. lean on your gifts.
My new podcast
Tom, please stop interrupting your guests.
If Ariana had been carrying on with Schwartz for 7 months she would have received the same shock and wrath. This is Tom and Raquel's backlash and scarlet letter. Repent and own it like Jack says. Radical ownership and keep trying to be a better person.
Oh, my gosh. This has gone on for months and months and months. I’m sick to death of hearing about it and I’m not going to watch VPR this season because every episode is going to be dragging it out for another year plus a reunion. I stopped listening to any other VPR casts’ podcast back in March and unsubscribed because everyone has beat it to DEATH. Enough already. Tom, concentrate on what is going on in your guests’ lives, their history, where your band has been, etc. and stop with the endless apologies. How are the bars doing? What’s Schwartz up to? Please, please, please, no more talk about Scandoval or I will stop watching this podcast, too. Today’s episode was so interesting. I’d be interesting in hear ing from some of the husbands and boyfriends of Real Housewives. Also, how about interviewing cast members who left the show or were fired and how it affected their lives good or bad. LuAnn from the old version of RHONY. SHE WAS JUST ON A BRAVO SHOW, CRAPPIE LAKE, plus she has a cabaret show.
lol, sandoval is this you? lol@@VintageLPs
I think tom mentioned cocaine like 5755 times in the opening
My disgust out of the whole Tom and Ariana, whoops sorry I f’d up, scandal was the cast, previous cast and every other snake that came out of the woodwork capitalizing on another’s heartbreak. People boycotting that don’t even know Tom. Grow up people, it’s called life.
Sorry Tom, I won’t be watching VR not because of you, I can’t even look at the others
Kesha's documentary 👌
I didn’t even recognize Jack Osborn! He’s gotten so skinny!